From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat Nov  1 11:51:21 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 12:51:21 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] NEVERMINDFw: Type mismatch in Array
In-Reply-To: <085501c93adc$8e2ba190$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
References: <085501c93adc$8e2ba190$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0811010951h61df245axcf9a55a8da6daf7d@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, Susan, you most certainly are, and I suggest that you get a job selling
donuts to police officers. It's come to this. LOL. But on the up side, your
initials (SSH) are the name of a very popular Linux utility, so that might
be a future direction for you. :)

A.

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm an idiot.
>
> Susan H.
>


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat Nov  1 11:58:22 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 12:58:22 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Lost error handling
In-Reply-To: <0E0A77A3968141D1B30CA44DFEC2C622@XPS>
References: <009001c93a07$5547a2f0$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
	<690271F12C4D4D84B4E5375FCC8BDA60@XPS>
	<00b601c93a0a$6d258830$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
	<0E0A77A3968141D1B30CA44DFEC2C622@XPS>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0811010958s71486832ldae16b18bf417c86@mail.gmail.com>

>>You'd think by now that development would be getting easier, but it
just seems like there are more and more hurdles in the path.

When I started programming in 1983, learning dBASE II and SuperCalc and
WordStar, I thought "this is too easy, programming is gone as a career". One
of my many failures to comprehend the nature of economics. It's in
everyone's interest (other than the clients') that things grow vastly more
complex. It creates opportunities to sell training, certifications, etc.
etc. etc. To paraphrase Michael Douglas in "Wall Street", hurdles are good.

:)


From drboz at pacbell.net  Sat Nov  1 14:41:47 2008
From: drboz at pacbell.net (Don Bozarth)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 12:41:47 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Lost error handling
References: <009001c93a07$5547a2f0$2f8601c7@SusanOne><690271F12C4D4D84B4E5375FCC8BDA60@XPS><00b601c93a0a$6d258830$2f8601c7@SusanOne><0E0A77A3968141D1B30CA44DFEC2C622@XPS>
	<29f585dd0811010958s71486832ldae16b18bf417c86@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <006c01c93c59$e0c4f590$6401a8c0@Don>

Arthur,

My some old memories.... somewhere around here I still have a copy of 
wordstar on 8" floppies...

Don B.

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From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Lost error handling


>>>You'd think by now that development would be getting easier, but it
> just seems like there are more and more hurdles in the path.
>
> When I started programming in 1983, learning dBASE II and SuperCalc and
> WordStar, I thought "this is too easy, programming is gone as a career". 
> One
> of my many failures to comprehend the nature of economics. It's in
> everyone's interest (other than the clients') that things grow vastly more
> complex. It creates opportunities to sell training, certifications, etc.
> etc. etc. To paraphrase Michael Douglas in "Wall Street", hurdles are 
> good.
>
> :)
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Nov  1 17:54:11 2008
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 08:54:11 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] NEVERMINDFw: Type mismatch in Array
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0811010951h61df245axcf9a55a8da6daf7d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <085501c93adc$8e2ba190$2f8601c7@SusanOne>,
	<29f585dd0811010951h61df245axcf9a55a8da6daf7d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <490D6AB3.18910.503B181@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

It's a network protocol - not just for Linux.  It's a secure form of Telnet which 
is even used in 
Windows Terminal Services and VNC   - it's all about ommunication using 
public key 
cryptography..  

Susan's not an idiot - it's just that you don't understand her because you 
don't have the key :-)

-- 
Stuart


On 1 Nov 2008 at 12:51, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> Yes, Susan, you most certainly are, and I suggest that you get a job selling
> donuts to police officers. It's come to this. LOL. But on the up side, your
> initials (SSH) are the name of a very popular Linux utility, so that might
> be a future direction for you. :)
> 
> A.
> 
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I'm an idiot.
> >
> > Susan H.
> >
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sun Nov  2 06:48:27 2008
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 07:48:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] NEVERMINDFw: Type mismatch in Array
References: <085501c93adc$8e2ba190$2f8601c7@SusanOne>,
	<29f585dd0811010951h61df245axcf9a55a8da6daf7d@mail.gmail.com>
	<490D6AB3.18910.503B181@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <01ef01c93ce9$4ea5b920$2f8601c7@SusanOne>

> Susan's not an idiot - it's just that you don't understand her because you
> don't have the key :-)

===========THERE's A KEY TO ME??????????? Please, fax it over. Reward will 
follow! ;)

Susan H. 



From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sun Nov  2 10:55:43 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 08:55:43 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
Message-ID: <D7DDFBF0B4494580A9E64BF243303B5A@HAL9005>

Dear List:
 
I have to create a record source for a list box of three fields Field1,
Field2, Field3.  For some records Field2 can be null.  The client wants the
non-null field2 records at the top sorted by field two then field3, and the
records with a null field 2 at the bottom sorted by field3.  Can't seem to
get this one.  I tried a union query of two queries one selecting null field
2 and one selecting non-null field 2 but the nulls still come out on top:

SELECT VarietyID, Class, Variety FROM VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is
Not Null ORDER BY Class, Variety Union Select VarietyID, Class, Variety from
VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is Null ORDER BY Class, Variety 
 
Anyone have a solution to this?

MTIA
 
 


 	
	
 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 

www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 

 

 




From edzedz at comcast.net  Sun Nov  2 11:08:03 2008
From: edzedz at comcast.net (Edward S Zuris)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 10:08:03 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] NEVERMINDFw: Type mismatch in Array
In-Reply-To: <01ef01c93ce9$4ea5b920$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <000401c93d0d$91b02880$e0dea8c0@dudley1>


 Could it be Flowers and Sweets ?

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 5:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] NEVERMINDFw: Type mismatch in Array


> Susan's not an idiot - it's just that you don't understand her because you
> don't have the key :-)

===========THERE's A KEY TO ME??????????? Please, fax it over. Reward will
follow! ;)

Susan H.

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sun Nov  2 11:12:09 2008
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 17:12:09 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
In-Reply-To: <D7DDFBF0B4494580A9E64BF243303B5A@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <A927671D14024A35AEDB5CBFFD0558E2@MINSTER>

Hi Rocky

How about just

SELECT VarietyID, Class, Variety FROM VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is
Not Null ORDER BY iif(IsNull(Class),2,1), Class, Variety 


Andy Lacey


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: 02 November 2008 16:56
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom


Dear List:
 
I have to create a record source for a list box of three fields Field1,
Field2, Field3.  For some records Field2 can be null.  The client wants the
non-null field2 records at the top sorted by field two then field3, and the
records with a null field 2 at the bottom sorted by field3.  Can't seem to
get this one.  I tried a union query of two queries one selecting null field
2 and one selecting non-null field 2 but the nulls still come out on top:

SELECT VarietyID, Class, Variety FROM VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is
Not Null ORDER BY Class, Variety Union Select VarietyID, Class, Variety from
VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is Null ORDER BY Class, Variety 
 
Anyone have a solution to this?

MTIA
 
 


 	
	
 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 

www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 

 

 


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From edzedz at comcast.net  Sun Nov  2 11:13:52 2008
From: edzedz at comcast.net (Edward S Zuris)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 10:13:52 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
In-Reply-To: <D7DDFBF0B4494580A9E64BF243303B5A@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <000501c93d0e$61ba3700$e0dea8c0@dudley1>


 Here is one method, have a extra field such as
 a flag field, where nulls are given a high value
 such as 2^11 and non-nulls given zero.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
at Beach Access Software
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 9:56 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom


Dear List:

I have to create a record source for a list box of three fields Field1,
Field2, Field3.  For some records Field2 can be null.  The client wants the
non-null field2 records at the top sorted by field two then field3, and the
records with a null field 2 at the bottom sorted by field3.  Can't seem to
get this one.  I tried a union query of two queries one selecting null field
2 and one selecting non-null field 2 but the nulls still come out on top:

SELECT VarietyID, Class, Variety FROM VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is
Not Null ORDER BY Class, Variety Union Select VarietyID, Class, Variety from
VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is Null ORDER BY Class, Variety

Anyone have a solution to this?

MTIA








Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/>

www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/>






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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sun Nov  2 11:22:13 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 09:22:13 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
In-Reply-To: <A927671D14024A35AEDB5CBFFD0558E2@MINSTER>
References: <D7DDFBF0B4494580A9E64BF243303B5A@HAL9005>
	<A927671D14024A35AEDB5CBFFD0558E2@MINSTER>
Message-ID: <6E628EB4F98C4A09AAE04506F3717D0D@HAL9005>

Andy:

Very clever!  And works with only minor mods:

SELECT VarietyTBL.VarietyID, VarietyTBL.Class, VarietyTBL.Variety
FROM VarietyTBL
ORDER BY IIf(IsNull(Class),2,1), VarietyTBL.Variety;
 
Thank you.

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 9:12 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom

Hi Rocky

How about just

SELECT VarietyID, Class, Variety FROM VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is
Not Null ORDER BY iif(IsNull(Class),2,1), Class, Variety 


Andy Lacey


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: 02 November 2008 16:56
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom


Dear List:
 
I have to create a record source for a list box of three fields Field1,
Field2, Field3.  For some records Field2 can be null.  The client wants the
non-null field2 records at the top sorted by field two then field3, and the
records with a null field 2 at the bottom sorted by field3.  Can't seem to
get this one.  I tried a union query of two queries one selecting null field
2 and one selecting non-null field 2 but the nulls still come out on top:

SELECT VarietyID, Class, Variety FROM VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is
Not Null ORDER BY Class, Variety Union Select VarietyID, Class, Variety from
VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is Null ORDER BY Class, Variety 
 
Anyone have a solution to this?

MTIA
 
 


 	
	
 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 

www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 

 

 


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From edzedz at comcast.net  Sun Nov  2 11:28:34 2008
From: edzedz at comcast.net (Edward S Zuris)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 10:28:34 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
In-Reply-To: <A927671D14024A35AEDB5CBFFD0558E2@MINSTER>
Message-ID: <000601c93d10$6f65bf80$e0dea8c0@dudley1>


 Yes Andy has a better idea.

 BTW, I reversed the IsNull parameters
 to sort nulls to the bottom.

 SELECT tt002TaskItems.TaskType,
        tt002TaskItems.TaskShortDesc,
        IIf([tt002TaskItems]![HotelSite],1,2) AS NullBottom
 FROM
        tt002TaskItems
 ORDER BY
        IIf([tt002TaskItems]![HotelSite],1,2),
        tt002TaskItems.TaskType;


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 10:12 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom


Hi Rocky

How about just

SELECT VarietyID, Class, Variety FROM VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is
Not Null ORDER BY iif(IsNull(Class),2,1), Class, Variety


Andy Lacey


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: 02 November 2008 16:56
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom


Dear List:

I have to create a record source for a list box of three fields Field1,
Field2, Field3.  For some records Field2 can be null.  The client wants the
non-null field2 records at the top sorted by field two then field3, and the
records with a null field 2 at the bottom sorted by field3.  Can't seem to
get this one.  I tried a union query of two queries one selecting null field
2 and one selecting non-null field 2 but the nulls still come out on top:

SELECT VarietyID, Class, Variety FROM VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is
Not Null ORDER BY Class, Variety Union Select VarietyID, Class, Variety from
VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is Null ORDER BY Class, Variety

Anyone have a solution to this?

MTIA








Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/>

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sun Nov  2 11:33:00 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 09:33:00 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
In-Reply-To: <000601c93d10$6f65bf80$e0dea8c0@dudley1>
References: <A927671D14024A35AEDB5CBFFD0558E2@MINSTER>
	<000601c93d10$6f65bf80$e0dea8c0@dudley1>
Message-ID: <01A1677DB42146548DBFB67517D25889@HAL9005>

Got it.  Thanks.   The final I sent back to Andy seems to be working.


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Edward S Zuris
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 9:29 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom


 Yes Andy has a better idea.

 BTW, I reversed the IsNull parameters
 to sort nulls to the bottom.

 SELECT tt002TaskItems.TaskType,
        tt002TaskItems.TaskShortDesc,
        IIf([tt002TaskItems]![HotelSite],1,2) AS NullBottom  FROM
        tt002TaskItems
 ORDER BY
        IIf([tt002TaskItems]![HotelSite],1,2),
        tt002TaskItems.TaskType;


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 10:12 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom


Hi Rocky

How about just

SELECT VarietyID, Class, Variety FROM VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is
Not Null ORDER BY iif(IsNull(Class),2,1), Class, Variety


Andy Lacey


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: 02 November 2008 16:56
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom


Dear List:

I have to create a record source for a list box of three fields Field1,
Field2, Field3.  For some records Field2 can be null.  The client wants the
non-null field2 records at the top sorted by field two then field3, and the
records with a null field 2 at the bottom sorted by field3.  Can't seem to
get this one.  I tried a union query of two queries one selecting null field
2 and one selecting non-null field 2 but the nulls still come out on top:

SELECT VarietyID, Class, Variety FROM VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is
Not Null ORDER BY Class, Variety Union Select VarietyID, Class, Variety from
VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is Null ORDER BY Class, Variety

Anyone have a solution to this?

MTIA








Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/>

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From miscellany at mvps.org  Sun Nov  2 11:54:13 2008
From: miscellany at mvps.org (Steve Schapel)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:54:13 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
In-Reply-To: <6E628EB4F98C4A09AAE04506F3717D0D@HAL9005>
References: <D7DDFBF0B4494580A9E64BF243303B5A@HAL9005>
	<A927671D14024A35AEDB5CBFFD0558E2@MINSTER>
	<6E628EB4F98C4A09AAE04506F3717D0D@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <490DE945.2050102@mvps.org>

Rocky,

A possible further simplification:

SELECT VarietyTBL.VarietyID, VarietyTBL.Class, VarietyTBL.Variety
FROM VarietyTBL
ORDER BY IsNull(Class), VarietyTBL.Variety

Regards
Steve


Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote:
> Andy:
> 
> Very clever!  And works with only minor mods:
> 
> SELECT VarietyTBL.VarietyID, VarietyTBL.Class, VarietyTBL.Variety
> FROM VarietyTBL
> ORDER BY IIf(IsNull(Class),2,1), VarietyTBL.Variety;
>  


From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sun Nov  2 12:09:15 2008
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 18:09:15 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
In-Reply-To: <6E628EB4F98C4A09AAE04506F3717D0D@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <56ADC6701826474A95C7CB90F2463ACC@MINSTER>

Mmm, unless I misread the problem I'm surprised that works Rocky. Where
Class is not Null all values of Class get sorted with the same value (1)
from the Isnull, so it's in the lap of the gods which sequence thaey come
out in. That's why I had IIf(IsNull(Class),2,1) followed by Class then
Variety. The logic is that all values where Class is not null sort before
those where it is (ie 1 before 2) then within that you sort on Class itself
(which makes no difference where Class is null but does where it isn't) then
finally in all cases you sort on Variety. If you see what I mean.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: 02 November 2008 17:22
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom


Andy:

Very clever!  And works with only minor mods:

SELECT VarietyTBL.VarietyID, VarietyTBL.Class, VarietyTBL.Variety FROM
VarietyTBL ORDER BY IIf(IsNull(Class),2,1), VarietyTBL.Variety;
 
Thank you.

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 9:12 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom

Hi Rocky

How about just

SELECT VarietyID, Class, Variety FROM VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is
Not Null ORDER BY iif(IsNull(Class),2,1), Class, Variety 


Andy Lacey


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: 02 November 2008 16:56
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom


Dear List:
 
I have to create a record source for a list box of three fields Field1,
Field2, Field3.  For some records Field2 can be null.  The client wants the
non-null field2 records at the top sorted by field two then field3, and the
records with a null field 2 at the bottom sorted by field3.  Can't seem to
get this one.  I tried a union query of two queries one selecting null field
2 and one selecting non-null field 2 but the nulls still come out on top:

SELECT VarietyID, Class, Variety FROM VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is
Not Null ORDER BY Class, Variety Union Select VarietyID, Class, Variety from
VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is Null ORDER BY Class, Variety 
 
Anyone have a solution to this?

MTIA
 
 


 	
	
 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sun Nov  2 12:11:41 2008
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 18:11:41 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
In-Reply-To: <490DE945.2050102@mvps.org>
Message-ID: <02B13BD088014E06A49188D4B354ED3E@MINSTER>

Neta, but would that not need to be Not Isnull(Class)? Or perhaps
IsNull(Class) DESC? Otherwise the Nulls (True, ie -1) would precede the Not
Nulls (False ie 0)

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Schapel
Sent: 02 November 2008 17:54
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom


Rocky,

A possible further simplification:

SELECT VarietyTBL.VarietyID, VarietyTBL.Class, VarietyTBL.Variety FROM
VarietyTBL ORDER BY IsNull(Class), VarietyTBL.Variety

Regards
Steve


Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote:
> Andy:
> 
> Very clever!  And works with only minor mods:
> 
> SELECT VarietyTBL.VarietyID, VarietyTBL.Class, VarietyTBL.Variety FROM 
> VarietyTBL ORDER BY IIf(IsNull(Class),2,1), VarietyTBL.Variety;
>  
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From miscellany at mvps.org  Sun Nov  2 12:45:31 2008
From: miscellany at mvps.org (Steve Schapel)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 07:45:31 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
In-Reply-To: <02B13BD088014E06A49188D4B354ED3E@MINSTER>
References: <02B13BD088014E06A49188D4B354ED3E@MINSTER>
Message-ID: <490DF54B.9020602@mvps.org>

True.  Thanks.  Yes, I would use IsNull(Class) DESC.

Regards
Steve


Andy Lacey wrote:
> Neta, but would that not need to be Not Isnull(Class)? Or perhaps
> IsNull(Class) DESC? Otherwise the Nulls (True, ie -1) would precede the Not
> Nulls (False ie 0)


From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sun Nov  2 12:54:48 2008
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 13:54:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] NEVERMINDFw: Type mismatch in Array
References: <000401c93d0d$91b02880$e0dea8c0@dudley1>
Message-ID: <034e01c93d1c$7fa1ab50$2f8601c7@SusanOne>

No... my husband says it's, "Make me write bad checks." :) 

Susan H. 
> 
> Could it be Flowers and Sweets ?



From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sun Nov  2 13:39:12 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 11:39:12 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
In-Reply-To: <56ADC6701826474A95C7CB90F2463ACC@MINSTER>
References: <6E628EB4F98C4A09AAE04506F3717D0D@HAL9005>
	<56ADC6701826474A95C7CB90F2463ACC@MINSTER>
Message-ID: <3CDA2607D53C42F6BE43FC475159284B@HAL9005>

Andy:

As 'a good program is one that works' I usually don't spend too much time
after that. :)  

I tear out too much hair trying to figure out why something doesn't work.
When it works I just kind of walk away quietly.  

But it's working and a good solution too.  Would make a good tip for one of
Susan's articles.


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 10:09 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom

Mmm, unless I misread the problem I'm surprised that works Rocky. Where
Class is not Null all values of Class get sorted with the same value (1)
from the Isnull, so it's in the lap of the gods which sequence thaey come
out in. That's why I had IIf(IsNull(Class),2,1) followed by Class then
Variety. The logic is that all values where Class is not null sort before
those where it is (ie 1 before 2) then within that you sort on Class itself
(which makes no difference where Class is null but does where it isn't) then
finally in all cases you sort on Variety. If you see what I mean.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: 02 November 2008 17:22
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom


Andy:

Very clever!  And works with only minor mods:

SELECT VarietyTBL.VarietyID, VarietyTBL.Class, VarietyTBL.Variety FROM
VarietyTBL ORDER BY IIf(IsNull(Class),2,1), VarietyTBL.Variety;
 
Thank you.

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 9:12 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom

Hi Rocky

How about just

SELECT VarietyID, Class, Variety FROM VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is
Not Null ORDER BY iif(IsNull(Class),2,1), Class, Variety 


Andy Lacey


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: 02 November 2008 16:56
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom


Dear List:
 
I have to create a record source for a list box of three fields Field1,
Field2, Field3.  For some records Field2 can be null.  The client wants the
non-null field2 records at the top sorted by field two then field3, and the
records with a null field 2 at the bottom sorted by field3.  Can't seem to
get this one.  I tried a union query of two queries one selecting null field
2 and one selecting non-null field 2 but the nulls still come out on top:

SELECT VarietyID, Class, Variety FROM VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is
Not Null ORDER BY Class, Variety Union Select VarietyID, Class, Variety from
VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is Null ORDER BY Class, Variety 
 
Anyone have a solution to this?

MTIA
 
 


 	
	
 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 

www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 

 

 


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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sun Nov  2 13:40:41 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 11:40:41 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
In-Reply-To: <490DE945.2050102@mvps.org>
References: <D7DDFBF0B4494580A9E64BF243303B5A@HAL9005><A927671D14024A35AEDB5CBFFD0558E2@MINSTER><6E628EB4F98C4A09AAE04506F3717D0D@HAL9005>
	<490DE945.2050102@mvps.org>
Message-ID: <9B45BDBC53D24C7DB797301335C6A558@HAL9005>

Steve:

Without testing, wouldn't I need ORDER BY IsNull DESC to get the nulls on
the bottom?


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Schapel
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 9:54 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom

Rocky,

A possible further simplification:

SELECT VarietyTBL.VarietyID, VarietyTBL.Class, VarietyTBL.Variety FROM
VarietyTBL ORDER BY IsNull(Class), VarietyTBL.Variety

Regards
Steve


Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote:
> Andy:
> 
> Very clever!  And works with only minor mods:
> 
> SELECT VarietyTBL.VarietyID, VarietyTBL.Class, VarietyTBL.Variety FROM 
> VarietyTBL ORDER BY IIf(IsNull(Class),2,1), VarietyTBL.Variety;
>  
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Nov  2 15:02:45 2008
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 07:02:45 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
In-Reply-To: <3CDA2607D53C42F6BE43FC475159284B@HAL9005>
References: <6E628EB4F98C4A09AAE04506F3717D0D@HAL9005>,
	<56ADC6701826474A95C7CB90F2463ACC@MINSTER>,
	<3CDA2607D53C42F6BE43FC475159284B@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <490EA215.18849.2323D4B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

The VBA NZ() function , which is like the TSQL ISNULL() 
is simpler in this case 


SELECT VarietyID, Class, Variety 
FROM VarietyTBL 
ORDER BY NZ(Class,999999999),Variety;


or, if Class if text, use  NZ(Class,"zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz")

On 2 Nov 2008 at 11:39, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access  wrote:

> Andy:
> 
> As 'a good program is one that works' I usually don't spend too much time
> after that. :)  
> 
> I tear out too much hair trying to figure out why something doesn't work.
> When it works I just kind of walk away quietly.  
> 
> But it's working and a good solution too.  Would make a good tip for one of
> Susan's articles.
> 
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.e-z-mrp.com
> www.bchacc.com
>  
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 10:09 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
> 
> Mmm, unless I misread the problem I'm surprised that works Rocky. Where
> Class is not Null all values of Class get sorted with the same value (1)
> from the Isnull, so it's in the lap of the gods which sequence thaey come
> out in. That's why I had IIf(IsNull(Class),2,1) followed by Class then
> Variety. The logic is that all values where Class is not null sort before
> those where it is (ie 1 before 2) then within that you sort on Class itself
> (which makes no difference where Class is null but does where it isn't) then
> finally in all cases you sort on Variety. If you see what I mean.
> 
> Andy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: 02 November 2008 17:22
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
> 
> 
> Andy:
> 
> Very clever!  And works with only minor mods:
> 
> SELECT VarietyTBL.VarietyID, VarietyTBL.Class, VarietyTBL.Variety FROM
> VarietyTBL ORDER BY IIf(IsNull(Class),2,1), VarietyTBL.Variety;
>  
> Thank you.
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.e-z-mrp.com
> www.bchacc.com
>  
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 9:12 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
> 
> Hi Rocky
> 
> How about just
> 
> SELECT VarietyID, Class, Variety FROM VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is
> Not Null ORDER BY iif(IsNull(Class),2,1), Class, Variety 
> 
> 
> Andy Lacey
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: 02 November 2008 16:56
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
> 
> 
> Dear List:
>  
> I have to create a record source for a list box of three fields Field1,
> Field2, Field3.  For some records Field2 can be null.  The client wants the
> non-null field2 records at the top sorted by field two then field3, and the
> records with a null field 2 at the bottom sorted by field3.  Can't seem to
> get this one.  I tried a union query of two queries one selecting null field
> 2 and one selecting non-null field 2 but the nulls still come out on top:
> 
> SELECT VarietyID, Class, Variety FROM VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is
> Not Null ORDER BY Class, Variety Union Select VarietyID, Class, Variety from
> VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is Null ORDER BY Class, Variety 
>  
> Anyone have a solution to this?
> 
> MTIA
>  
>  
> 
> 
>  	
> 	
>  
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> 
> Beach Access Software
> 
> 858-259-4334
> 
> www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 
> 
> www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sun Nov  2 15:36:06 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 13:36:06 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
In-Reply-To: <490EA215.18849.2323D4B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <6E628EB4F98C4A09AAE04506F3717D0D@HAL9005>,
	<56ADC6701826474A95C7CB90F2463ACC@MINSTER>,
	<3CDA2607D53C42F6BE43FC475159284B@HAL9005>
	<490EA215.18849.2323D4B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <06B9F2586F55496EADC025BD47A07F98@HAL9005>

That would work, too.  You think evaluating Nz or iif is faster? 


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 1:03 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom

The VBA NZ() function , which is like the TSQL ISNULL() is simpler in this
case 


SELECT VarietyID, Class, Variety 
FROM VarietyTBL 
ORDER BY NZ(Class,999999999),Variety;


or, if Class if text, use  NZ(Class,"zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz")

On 2 Nov 2008 at 11:39, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access  wrote:

> Andy:
> 
> As 'a good program is one that works' I usually don't spend too much time
> after that. :)  
> 
> I tear out too much hair trying to figure out why something doesn't work.
> When it works I just kind of walk away quietly.  
> 
> But it's working and a good solution too.  Would make a good tip for one
of
> Susan's articles.
> 
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.e-z-mrp.com
> www.bchacc.com
>  
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 10:09 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
> 
> Mmm, unless I misread the problem I'm surprised that works Rocky. Where
> Class is not Null all values of Class get sorted with the same value (1)
> from the Isnull, so it's in the lap of the gods which sequence thaey come
> out in. That's why I had IIf(IsNull(Class),2,1) followed by Class then
> Variety. The logic is that all values where Class is not null sort before
> those where it is (ie 1 before 2) then within that you sort on Class
itself
> (which makes no difference where Class is null but does where it isn't)
then
> finally in all cases you sort on Variety. If you see what I mean.
> 
> Andy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: 02 November 2008 17:22
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
> 
> 
> Andy:
> 
> Very clever!  And works with only minor mods:
> 
> SELECT VarietyTBL.VarietyID, VarietyTBL.Class, VarietyTBL.Variety FROM
> VarietyTBL ORDER BY IIf(IsNull(Class),2,1), VarietyTBL.Variety;
>  
> Thank you.
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.e-z-mrp.com
> www.bchacc.com
>  
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 9:12 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
> 
> Hi Rocky
> 
> How about just
> 
> SELECT VarietyID, Class, Variety FROM VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is
> Not Null ORDER BY iif(IsNull(Class),2,1), Class, Variety 
> 
> 
> Andy Lacey
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
> Beach Access Software
> Sent: 02 November 2008 16:56
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
> 
> 
> Dear List:
>  
> I have to create a record source for a list box of three fields Field1,
> Field2, Field3.  For some records Field2 can be null.  The client wants
the
> non-null field2 records at the top sorted by field two then field3, and
the
> records with a null field 2 at the bottom sorted by field3.  Can't seem to
> get this one.  I tried a union query of two queries one selecting null
field
> 2 and one selecting non-null field 2 but the nulls still come out on top:
> 
> SELECT VarietyID, Class, Variety FROM VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is
> Not Null ORDER BY Class, Variety Union Select VarietyID, Class, Variety
from
> VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is Null ORDER BY Class, Variety 
>  
> Anyone have a solution to this?
> 
> MTIA
>  
>  
> 
> 
>  	
> 	
>  
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> 
> Beach Access Software
> 
> 858-259-4334
> 
> www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 
> 
> www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
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From miscellany at mvps.org  Sun Nov  2 15:44:44 2008
From: miscellany at mvps.org (Steve Schapel)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 10:44:44 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
In-Reply-To: <06B9F2586F55496EADC025BD47A07F98@HAL9005>
References: <6E628EB4F98C4A09AAE04506F3717D0D@HAL9005>
	<56ADC6701826474A95C7CB90F2463ACC@MINSTER>
	<3CDA2607D53C42F6BE43FC475159284B@HAL9005>
	<490EA215.18849.2323D4B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<06B9F2586F55496EADC025BD47A07F98@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <490E1F4C.8050200@mvps.org>

Begging your pardon, Rocky, but this will give a different result from 
what you are now using.

Regards
Steve


Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote:
> That would work, too.  You think evaluating Nz or iif is faster? 


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sun Nov  2 16:06:51 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 14:06:51 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
In-Reply-To: <490E1F4C.8050200@mvps.org>
References: <6E628EB4F98C4A09AAE04506F3717D0D@HAL9005><56ADC6701826474A95C7CB90F2463ACC@MINSTER><3CDA2607D53C42F6BE43FC475159284B@HAL9005><490EA215.18849.2323D4B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg><06B9F2586F55496EADC025BD47A07F98@HAL9005>
	<490E1F4C.8050200@mvps.org>
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How different?  And how come?  Wouldn't NZ(Class,9999) sort the nulls to the
bottom? 


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Schapel
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 1:45 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom

Begging your pardon, Rocky, but this will give a different result from what
you are now using.

Regards
Steve


Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote:
> That would work, too.  You think evaluating Nz or iif is faster? 
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From miscellany at mvps.org  Sun Nov  2 16:27:34 2008
From: miscellany at mvps.org (Steve Schapel)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 11:27:34 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
In-Reply-To: <C1E4962F6E4549DFB4CE4BA0C058F732@HAL9005>
References: <6E628EB4F98C4A09AAE04506F3717D0D@HAL9005>
	<56ADC6701826474A95C7CB90F2463ACC@MINSTER>
	<3CDA2607D53C42F6BE43FC475159284B@HAL9005>
	<490EA215.18849.2323D4B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<06B9F2586F55496EADC025BD47A07F98@HAL9005> <490E1F4C.8050200@mvps.org>
	<C1E4962F6E4549DFB4CE4BA0C058F732@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <490E2956.1090307@mvps.org>

Hi Rocky,

Yes it will sort the Nulls to the bottom.

But the non-Nulls will be sorted according to the Class value, which is 
not what will happen with:
SELECT VarietyTBL.VarietyID, VarietyTBL.Class, VarietyTBL.Variety
FROM VarietyTBL
ORDER BY IIf(IsNull(Class),2,1), VarietyTBL.Variety

or with:
SELECT VarietyTBL.VarietyID, VarietyTBL.Class, VarietyTBL.Variety
FROM VarietyTBL
ORDER BY IsNull(Class) DESC, VarietyTBL.Variety

Regards
Steve


Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote:
> How different?  And how come?  Wouldn't NZ(Class,9999) sort the nulls to the
> bottom? 


From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au  Sun Nov  2 17:35:00 2008
From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:35:00 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Lost error handling
In-Reply-To: <006c01c93c59$e0c4f590$6401a8c0@Don>
Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC2720077449CCF8@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au>


heh, and they are probably the floppies that were really floppy (5 1/4 inches) :)

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Don Bozarth
Sent: Sunday, 2 November 2008 6:42 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Lost error handling


Arthur,

My some old memories.... somewhere around here I still have a copy of
wordstar on 8" floppies...

Don B.

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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
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Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Lost error handling


>>>You'd think by now that development would be getting easier, but it
> just seems like there are more and more hurdles in the path.
>
> When I started programming in 1983, learning dBASE II and SuperCalc and
> WordStar, I thought "this is too easy, programming is gone as a career".
> One
> of my many failures to comprehend the nature of economics. It's in
> everyone's interest (other than the clients') that things grow vastly more
> complex. It creates opportunities to sell training, certifications, etc.
> etc. etc. To paraphrase Michael Douglas in "Wall Street", hurdles are
> good.
>
> :)
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Nov  2 16:56:37 2008
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 08:56:37 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
In-Reply-To: <06B9F2586F55496EADC025BD47A07F98@HAL9005>
References: <6E628EB4F98C4A09AAE04506F3717D0D@HAL9005>,
	<490EA215.18849.2323D4B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<06B9F2586F55496EADC025BD47A07F98@HAL9005>
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I would have expected NZ() to be  faster, since you are evalauting a single 
function whereas 
IIF(IsNull()) requires you to evaluate two functions  

But it turns out to be a bit more complex, I've just tried running some big for 
next loops to 
test this.

If Class is a long, there's very little between the two methods - the 
IIF(Isnull()) loop is about 
5% faster than NZ()

If Class is a string, NZ() is definitely more efficient - it's loop is between 20 
and 40% faster 
than IIF(IsNull()) - the higher the proportion of Nulls, the bigger the 
difference!




On 2 Nov 2008 at 13:36, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access  wrote:

> That would work, too.  You think evaluating Nz or iif is faster? 
> 
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.e-z-mrp.com
> www.bchacc.com
>  
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 1:03 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
> 
> The VBA NZ() function , which is like the TSQL ISNULL() is simpler in this
> case 
> 
> 
> SELECT VarietyID, Class, Variety 
> FROM VarietyTBL 
> ORDER BY NZ(Class,999999999),Variety;
> 
> 
> or, if Class if text, use  NZ(Class,"zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz")
> 
> On 2 Nov 2008 at 11:39, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access  wrote:
> 
> > Andy:
> > 
> > As 'a good program is one that works' I usually don't spend too much time
> > after that. :)  
> > 
> > I tear out too much hair trying to figure out why something doesn't work.
> > When it works I just kind of walk away quietly.  
> > 
> > But it's working and a good solution too.  Would make a good tip for one
> of
> > Susan's articles.
> > 
> > 
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > 858-259-4334
> > www.e-z-mrp.com
> > www.bchacc.com
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
> > Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 10:09 AM
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
> > 
> > Mmm, unless I misread the problem I'm surprised that works Rocky. Where
> > Class is not Null all values of Class get sorted with the same value (1)
> > from the Isnull, so it's in the lap of the gods which sequence thaey come
> > out in. That's why I had IIf(IsNull(Class),2,1) followed by Class then
> > Variety. The logic is that all values where Class is not null sort before
> > those where it is (ie 1 before 2) then within that you sort on Class
> itself
> > (which makes no difference where Class is null but does where it isn't)
> then
> > finally in all cases you sort on Variety. If you see what I mean.
> > 
> > Andy
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
> > Beach Access Software
> > Sent: 02 November 2008 17:22
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
> > 
> > 
> > Andy:
> > 
> > Very clever!  And works with only minor mods:
> > 
> > SELECT VarietyTBL.VarietyID, VarietyTBL.Class, VarietyTBL.Variety FROM
> > VarietyTBL ORDER BY IIf(IsNull(Class),2,1), VarietyTBL.Variety;
> >  
> > Thank you.
> > 
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > 858-259-4334
> > www.e-z-mrp.com
> > www.bchacc.com
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
> > Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 9:12 AM
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
> > 
> > Hi Rocky
> > 
> > How about just
> > 
> > SELECT VarietyID, Class, Variety FROM VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is
> > Not Null ORDER BY iif(IsNull(Class),2,1), Class, Variety 
> > 
> > 
> > Andy Lacey
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
> > Beach Access Software
> > Sent: 02 November 2008 16:56
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
> > 
> > 
> > Dear List:
> >  
> > I have to create a record source for a list box of three fields Field1,
> > Field2, Field3.  For some records Field2 can be null.  The client wants
> the
> > non-null field2 records at the top sorted by field two then field3, and
> the
> > records with a null field 2 at the bottom sorted by field3.  Can't seem to
> > get this one.  I tried a union query of two queries one selecting null
> field
> > 2 and one selecting non-null field 2 but the nulls still come out on top:
> > 
> > SELECT VarietyID, Class, Variety FROM VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is
> > Not Null ORDER BY Class, Variety Union Select VarietyID, Class, Variety
> from
> > VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is Null ORDER BY Class, Variety 
> >  
> > Anyone have a solution to this?
> > 
> > MTIA
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >  	
> > 	
> >  
> > 
> > Rocky Smolin
> > 
> > Beach Access Software
> > 
> > 858-259-4334
> > 
> > www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 
> > 
> > www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Nov  2 16:56:38 2008
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 08:56:38 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
In-Reply-To: <490E2956.1090307@mvps.org>
References: <6E628EB4F98C4A09AAE04506F3717D0D@HAL9005>,
	<C1E4962F6E4549DFB4CE4BA0C058F732@HAL9005>,
	<490E2956.1090307@mvps.org>
Message-ID: <490EBCC6.18408.32CBB2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

But it does what Rocky originally asked for, the earlier solutions don't :-)

<quote>
the client wants the non-null field2 records at the top sorted by field two then 
field3, and the 
records with a null field 2 at the bottom sorted by field3.  
</quote>


On 3 Nov 2008 at 11:27, Steve Schapel wrote:

> Hi Rocky,
> 
> Yes it will sort the Nulls to the bottom.
> 
> But the non-Nulls will be sorted according to the Class value, which is 
> not what will happen with:
> SELECT VarietyTBL.VarietyID, VarietyTBL.Class, VarietyTBL.Variety
> FROM VarietyTBL
> ORDER BY IIf(IsNull(Class),2,1), VarietyTBL.Variety
> 
> or with:
> SELECT VarietyTBL.VarietyID, VarietyTBL.Class, VarietyTBL.Variety
> FROM VarietyTBL
> ORDER BY IsNull(Class) DESC, VarietyTBL.Variety
> 
> Regards
> Steve
> 
> 
> Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote:
> > How different?  And how come?  Wouldn't NZ(Class,9999) sort the nulls to the
> > bottom? 
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From miscellany at mvps.org  Sun Nov  2 18:51:34 2008
From: miscellany at mvps.org (Steve Schapel)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:51:34 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
In-Reply-To: <490EBCC6.18408.32CBB2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <6E628EB4F98C4A09AAE04506F3717D0D@HAL9005>
	<C1E4962F6E4549DFB4CE4BA0C058F732@HAL9005> <490E2956.1090307@mvps.org>
	<490EBCC6.18408.32CBB2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <490E4B16.1030403@mvps.org>

Stuart,

Yes, I know that. :-)

But Andy's original reply, which *does* do what he asked for, was 
rejected by Rocky.  So I'm now going by what Rocky said was doing the 
job for him. :-)

Oh well, probably just going round in circles.  But I had originally 
prepared a reply using the Nz() very similar to your suggestion, and 
then I deleted it before sending because I had seen from Rocky's reply 
to Andy that it was apparently not what he wanted after all.  Not that 
it matters - my only concern is Rocky being sure he is getting what he 
wants. :-)

Regards
Steve


Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> But it does what Rocky originally asked for, the earlier solutions don't :-)
> 
> <quote>
> the client wants the non-null field2 records at the top sorted by field two then 
> field3, and the 
> records with a null field 2 at the bottom sorted by field3.  
> </quote>


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sun Nov  2 18:56:10 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 16:56:10 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
In-Reply-To: <490E4B16.1030403@mvps.org>
References: <6E628EB4F98C4A09AAE04506F3717D0D@HAL9005><C1E4962F6E4549DFB4CE4BA0C058F732@HAL9005>
	<490E2956.1090307@mvps.org><490EBCC6.18408.32CBB2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<490E4B16.1030403@mvps.org>
Message-ID: <FE52E085C93A4337BD59F146B37B455D@HAL9005>

I'm getting everything that's coming to me.  :)


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Schapel
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 4:52 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom

Stuart,

Yes, I know that. :-)

But Andy's original reply, which *does* do what he asked for, was rejected
by Rocky.  So I'm now going by what Rocky said was doing the job for him.
:-)

Oh well, probably just going round in circles.  But I had originally
prepared a reply using the Nz() very similar to your suggestion, and then I
deleted it before sending because I had seen from Rocky's reply to Andy that
it was apparently not what he wanted after all.  Not that it matters - my
only concern is Rocky being sure he is getting what he wants. :-)

Regards
Steve


Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> But it does what Rocky originally asked for, the earlier solutions 
> don't :-)
> 
> <quote>
> the client wants the non-null field2 records at the top sorted by 
> field two then field3, and the records with a null field 2 at the 
> bottom sorted by field3.
> </quote>
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From jengross at gte.net  Sun Nov  2 22:17:06 2008
From: jengross at gte.net (Jennifer Gross)
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 20:17:06 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Data Access Pages
Message-ID: <0K9Q002S4P95RUB3@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net>

Does anyone here work with Data Access Pages and would they recommend them?
I have a client that is asking.  I have never worked with them.

Thanks in advance for your advice,

Jennifer Gross




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Nov  2 23:17:06 2008
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:17:06 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Data Access Pages
In-Reply-To: <0K9Q002S4P95RUB3@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <0K9Q002S4P95RUB3@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <490F15F2.21509.B2A0F5@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

a. Tried them
b. No


1. You can't use Firefox or any otther browser apart from IE.
2. Using IE, you frequently run into problems with content blocking.
3. It creates *bloated* HTML
4. You can run into problems with different version of Office Web components on different 
client machines.

and the biggie....

5. They are no longer supported in Office 2007



On 2 Nov 2008 at 20:17, Jennifer Gross wrote:

> Does anyone here work with Data Access Pages and would they recommend them?
> I have a client that is asking.  I have never worked with them.
> 
> Thanks in advance for your advice,
> 
> Jennifer Gross
> 
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Mon Nov  3 01:32:51 2008
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 07:32:51 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom
In-Reply-To: <490EBCC6.18408.32CBB2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <50F3132E75244F41944D789314F0D948@MINSTER>

Sorry Stuart but the earlier solutions most certainly do. If you go back to
my very first reply it's

SELECT VarietyID, Class, Variety FROM VarietyTBL WHERE VarietyTBL.Class Is
Not Null ORDER BY iif(IsNull(Class),2,1), Class, Variety 

And I subsequently attempted to explain why it needs the second entry of
just Class in the sort sequence but, as Steve says, Rocky's going with
something else.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: 02 November 2008 22:57
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Sort Blanks to the bottom


But it does what Rocky originally asked for, the earlier solutions don't :-)

<quote>
the client wants the non-null field2 records at the top sorted by field two
then 
field3, and the 
records with a null field 2 at the bottom sorted by field3.  
</quote>


On 3 Nov 2008 at 11:27, Steve Schapel wrote:

> Hi Rocky,
> 
> Yes it will sort the Nulls to the bottom.
> 
> But the non-Nulls will be sorted according to the Class value, which 
> is
> not what will happen with:
> SELECT VarietyTBL.VarietyID, VarietyTBL.Class, VarietyTBL.Variety
> FROM VarietyTBL
> ORDER BY IIf(IsNull(Class),2,1), VarietyTBL.Variety
> 
> or with:
> SELECT VarietyTBL.VarietyID, VarietyTBL.Class, VarietyTBL.Variety FROM 
> VarietyTBL ORDER BY IsNull(Class) DESC, VarietyTBL.Variety
> 
> Regards
> Steve
> 
> 
> Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote:
> > How different?  And how come?  Wouldn't NZ(Class,9999) sort the 
> > nulls to the bottom?
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Nov  3 01:39:58 2008
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 08:39:58 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Lost error handling
Message-ID: <s90eb8ee.095@cactus.dk>

Hi Daryl

No, hard to believe these days, but 8" true floppy disks:

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floppy_disk 

/gustav

>>> Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au 03-11-2008 00:35 >>>

heh, and they are probably the floppies that were really floppy (5 1/4 inches) :)

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Don Bozarth
Sent: Sunday, 2 November 2008 6:42 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Lost error handling


Arthur,

My some old memories.... somewhere around here I still have a copy of
wordstar on 8" floppies...

Don B.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Lost error handling


>>>You'd think by now that development would be getting easier, but it
> just seems like there are more and more hurdles in the path.
>
> When I started programming in 1983, learning dBASE II and SuperCalc and
> WordStar, I thought "this is too easy, programming is gone as a career".
> One
> of my many failures to comprehend the nature of economics. It's in
> everyone's interest (other than the clients') that things grow vastly more
> complex. It creates opportunities to sell training, certifications, etc.
> etc. etc. To paraphrase Michael Douglas in "Wall Street", hurdles are
> good.
>
> :)





From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Nov  3 09:54:42 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 07:54:42 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Printer Question
Message-ID: <B3E4AF7C90F4446EB3AF5320AA09FD09@HAL9005>

Dear List:
 
I have a client who has a Lexmark T6XX printer.  When he prints an envelope
from Word, something in the printer goes clunkety-clunk and the envelope
comes out unwrinkled.  When he prints an envelope from Access, there's no
clunkety-clunk and the envelope comes out wrinkled.
 
I assume that Word knows the codes to send to the printer in envelope mode
to stop the envelope wrinkling.

What I'm looking for, of course, are those codes and a way to send them to
the printer in advance of an access report that's going to print on an
envelope and, of course, codes to set the printer back again.

Or is there a quick solution for this like a third party OCX or something
that will do this?

Has anyone had to control a printer like this from Access?


MTIA,


Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 

www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 

 

 




From markamatte at hotmail.com  Mon Nov  3 11:31:03 2008
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:31:03 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Printer Question
In-Reply-To: <B3E4AF7C90F4446EB3AF5320AA09FD09@HAL9005>
References: <B3E4AF7C90F4446EB3AF5320AA09FD09@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <BAY127-W142ED17FED2695A79640FED21D0@phx.gbl>


Rocky,

If you search help for printer and 'clunkety-clunk'...you will find./....


Just kidding...on your report...if you goto file/page setup/page...do you have size as 'Envelope #10' ? Also, what is the orientation?  I didn't have clunkety-clunk...but for mine to print correctly...I had to select 'Envelope #10' as size and choose the orientation landscape.

Good Luck,

Mark 


> From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 07:54:42 -0800
> Subject: [AccessD] Printer Question
>
> Dear List:
>
> I have a client who has a Lexmark T6XX printer. When he prints an envelope
> from Word, something in the printer goes clunkety-clunk and the envelope
> comes out unwrinkled. When he prints an envelope from Access, there's no
> clunkety-clunk and the envelope comes out wrinkled.
>
> I assume that Word knows the codes to send to the printer in envelope mode
> to stop the envelope wrinkling.
>
> What I'm looking for, of course, are those codes and a way to send them to
> the printer in advance of an access report that's going to print on an
> envelope and, of course, codes to set the printer back again.
>
> Or is there a quick solution for this like a third party OCX or something
> that will do this?
>
> Has anyone had to control a printer like this from Access?
>
>
> MTIA,
>
>
> Rocky Smolin
>
> Beach Access Software
>
> 858-259-4334
>
> www.e-z-mrp.com 
>
> www.bchacc.com 
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Nov  3 11:40:14 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:40:14 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Printer Question
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-W142ED17FED2695A79640FED21D0@phx.gbl>
References: <B3E4AF7C90F4446EB3AF5320AA09FD09@HAL9005>
	<BAY127-W142ED17FED2695A79640FED21D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <DE93B5F6CDCD47F7BFE8FCC956DA314B@HAL9005>

Mark:

I forwarded your suggestion - let's see what he finds.  Maybe the printer
driver will take care of it for him.  But I just tried it with a report here
and using Comm. #10 Env. Setting, it reduced the page size to the size of a
#10 but doesn't change the orientation of the copy. 


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 9:31 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Printer Question


Rocky,

If you search help for printer and 'clunkety-clunk'...you will find./....


Just kidding...on your report...if you goto file/page setup/page...do you
have size as 'Envelope #10' ? Also, what is the orientation?  I didn't have
clunkety-clunk...but for mine to print correctly...I had to select 'Envelope
#10' as size and choose the orientation landscape.

Good Luck,

Mark 


> From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 07:54:42 -0800
> Subject: [AccessD] Printer Question
>
> Dear List:
>
> I have a client who has a Lexmark T6XX printer. When he prints an 
> envelope from Word, something in the printer goes clunkety-clunk and 
> the envelope comes out unwrinkled. When he prints an envelope from 
> Access, there's no clunkety-clunk and the envelope comes out wrinkled.
>
> I assume that Word knows the codes to send to the printer in envelope 
> mode to stop the envelope wrinkling.
>
> What I'm looking for, of course, are those codes and a way to send 
> them to the printer in advance of an access report that's going to 
> print on an envelope and, of course, codes to set the printer back again.
>
> Or is there a quick solution for this like a third party OCX or 
> something that will do this?
>
> Has anyone had to control a printer like this from Access?
>
>
> MTIA,
>
>
> Rocky Smolin
>
> Beach Access Software
>
> 858-259-4334
>
> www.e-z-mrp.com
>
> www.bchacc.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From jengross at gte.net  Mon Nov  3 11:57:52 2008
From: jengross at gte.net (Jennifer Gross)
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 09:57:52 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Data Access Pages
In-Reply-To: <490F15F2.21509.B2A0F5@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <0K9R00DBHR7I4ZRF@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net>

Thanks Stuart.  That was pretty much what I thought - don't recommend them. 

Jennifer

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 9:17 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Data Access Pages

a. Tried them
b. No


1. You can't use Firefox or any otther browser apart from IE.
2. Using IE, you frequently run into problems with content blocking.
3. It creates *bloated* HTML
4. You can run into problems with different version of Office Web components
on different client machines.

and the biggie....

5. They are no longer supported in Office 2007



On 2 Nov 2008 at 20:17, Jennifer Gross wrote:

> Does anyone here work with Data Access Pages and would they recommend
them?
> I have a client that is asking.  I have never worked with them.
> 
> Thanks in advance for your advice,
> 
> Jennifer Gross
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From askolits at nni.com  Tue Nov  4 08:13:11 2008
From: askolits at nni.com (John Skolits)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 09:13:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Error 2587 can't complete the Output operation.
	Version: 2000 (9.0)
Message-ID: <007f01c93e87$782e5820$6401a8c0@LaptopXP>

I've spent probably 8-10 hours trying to fox this problem and can't figure
it out. Customer is getting a bit concerned and the pressure is on.

Really need help on this one.

 

 

This issue is intermittent and is starting to pop up on various PCs but not
all.
This has worked for a couple years as a runtime app with no problems. 

 

Essentially, the code does an OutputTo an rtf file and then the error
occurs. Works fine with full Access even on the same PC, but not runtime.

I've done all the basics: Decompile, Import into new DB, Re-register
DAO360.dll, checked references, checked DAO360.dll versions, made sure
registered DAO360.dll is the same one in the references, rebooted Pc,
rechecked the code.

Still works with full version but not runtime.

I've seen this error posted on the net with various solution but I most of
them were never resolved or gave up.

Some of my research points to the DAO360.dll but I've tried a million things
in that area and there is still nothing definitive about it.

 

It affect RTF's only. Snapshot always works, but my customer must use RTF.  

 

Help!



From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Nov  4 08:19:21 2008
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 09:19:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Error 2587 can't complete the Output
	operation.Version: 2000 (9.0)
References: <007f01c93e87$782e5820$6401a8c0@LaptopXP>
Message-ID: <03cd01c93e88$55e69920$2f8601c7@SusanOne>

> It affect RTF's only. Snapshot always works, but my customer must use RTF.

======Can you convert a snapshot to an RTF and skirt the issue altogether --  
or at least for a while?

Susan H. 



From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Nov  4 08:22:02 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 06:22:02 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Error 2587 can't complete the Output
	operation.Version: 2000 (9.0)
In-Reply-To: <007f01c93e87$782e5820$6401a8c0@LaptopXP>
References: <007f01c93e87$782e5820$6401a8c0@LaptopXP>
Message-ID: <77AE20EE90B64C8F91DC297E2B15BC62@HAL9005>

What's the error?  Can you post the code snip?  Has anything changed on the
machines where it's occurring?  Upgrade to Vista?  Same Office version on
all machines? 


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Skolits
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:13 AM
To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Error 2587 can't complete the Output
operation.Version: 2000 (9.0)

I've spent probably 8-10 hours trying to fox this problem and can't figure
it out. Customer is getting a bit concerned and the pressure is on.

Really need help on this one.

 

 

This issue is intermittent and is starting to pop up on various PCs but not
all.
This has worked for a couple years as a runtime app with no problems. 

 

Essentially, the code does an OutputTo an rtf file and then the error
occurs. Works fine with full Access even on the same PC, but not runtime.

I've done all the basics: Decompile, Import into new DB, Re-register
DAO360.dll, checked references, checked DAO360.dll versions, made sure
registered DAO360.dll is the same one in the references, rebooted Pc,
rechecked the code.

Still works with full version but not runtime.

I've seen this error posted on the net with various solution but I most of
them were never resolved or gave up.

Some of my research points to the DAO360.dll but I've tried a million things
in that area and there is still nothing definitive about it.

 

It affect RTF's only. Snapshot always works, but my customer must use RTF.  

 

Help!

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From askolits at nni.com  Tue Nov  4 08:36:12 2008
From: askolits at nni.com (John Skolits)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 09:36:12 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Error 2587 can't complete the
	Outputoperation.Version: 2000 (9.0)
In-Reply-To: <77AE20EE90B64C8F91DC297E2B15BC62@HAL9005>
References: <007f01c93e87$782e5820$6401a8c0@LaptopXP>
	<77AE20EE90B64C8F91DC297E2B15BC62@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <008a01c93e8a$af732e20$6401a8c0@LaptopXP>

Everyone has Windows 2K. Access Runtime is Access 2000. I'm using Wise
Installation with SageKey Scripts

The code Snippet is nothing special:

DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, "ReportName", "RPT_01_AccessReport",
acFormatRTF, False

That makes me think. I'll create a button on my first screen that just does
the output. Right now the code is embedded in a bunch of other code.

BTW, I tested it with a report with just a label on it so I know it's not a
report issue. Besides, it always runs in Full Version Access.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:22 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Runtime Error 2587 can't complete the
Outputoperation.Version: 2000 (9.0)

What's the error?  Can you post the code snip?  Has anything changed on the
machines where it's occurring?  Upgrade to Vista?  Same Office version on
all machines? 


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Skolits
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:13 AM
To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Error 2587 can't complete the Output
operation.Version: 2000 (9.0)

I've spent probably 8-10 hours trying to fox this problem and can't figure
it out. Customer is getting a bit concerned and the pressure is on.

Really need help on this one.

 

 

This issue is intermittent and is starting to pop up on various PCs but not
all.
This has worked for a couple years as a runtime app with no problems. 

 

Essentially, the code does an OutputTo an rtf file and then the error
occurs. Works fine with full Access even on the same PC, but not runtime.

I've done all the basics: Decompile, Import into new DB, Re-register
DAO360.dll, checked references, checked DAO360.dll versions, made sure
registered DAO360.dll is the same one in the references, rebooted Pc,
rechecked the code.

Still works with full version but not runtime.

I've seen this error posted on the net with various solution but I most of
them were never resolved or gave up.

Some of my research points to the DAO360.dll but I've tried a million things
in that area and there is still nothing definitive about it.

 

It affect RTF's only. Snapshot always works, but my customer must use RTF.  

 

Help!

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From askolits at nni.com  Tue Nov  4 08:37:14 2008
From: askolits at nni.com (John Skolits)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 09:37:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Error 2587 can't complete the
	Outputoperation.Version: 2000 (9.0)
In-Reply-To: <03cd01c93e88$55e69920$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
References: <007f01c93e87$782e5820$6401a8c0@LaptopXP>
	<03cd01c93e88$55e69920$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <008b01c93e8a$d48dc6c0$6401a8c0@LaptopXP>

Convert SNP to RTF? Never heard of that. It's a pretty complex report.
Is there a Add-IN or app to do the conversion?


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:19 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Runtime Error 2587 can't complete the
Outputoperation.Version: 2000 (9.0)

> It affect RTF's only. Snapshot always works, but my customer must use RTF.

======Can you convert a snapshot to an RTF and skirt the issue altogether --

or at least for a while?

Susan H. 

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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Tue Nov  4 08:42:24 2008
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:42:24 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Error 2587 can't complete the Output
 operation.	Version: 2000 (9.0)
In-Reply-To: <007f01c93e87$782e5820$6401a8c0@LaptopXP>
References: <007f01c93e87$782e5820$6401a8c0@LaptopXP>
Message-ID: <BAY127-W51B0878C386A2C19AD4947D21C0@phx.gbl>


John,
 
Not saying it is related...but your reference to dao360 reminded me of something.  
 
I had an issue March 07 where something started breaking on machines...mdb would no longer compile...references seemed to be fine...just would no longer work.  There is a thread in the archives "references and errors"(I searched 'matte and dao360').
 
I finally found that 'sometimes' dao 3.51 is required to be on the machine...NOT SELECTED...just on the machine.  The thread mentioned above goes into a lot more detail...but there was also some some stuff from MS:
 
> > > ">If unchecked then unused. "> > >> > > This might not be entirely true... according to MS:> > >> > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/303829Probably not related...but kinda scary when it does not always matter what references you have selected.
 
Mark A. Matte
 
> From: askolits at nni.com> To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 09:13:11 -0500> Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Error 2587 can't complete the Output operation. Version: 2000 (9.0)> > I've spent probably 8-10 hours trying to fox this problem and can't figure> it out. Customer is getting a bit concerned and the pressure is on.> > Really need help on this one.> > > > > > This issue is intermittent and is starting to pop up on various PCs but not> all.> This has worked for a couple years as a runtime app with no problems. > > > > Essentially, the code does an OutputTo an rtf file and then the error> occurs. Works fine with full Access even on the same PC, but not runtime.> > I've done all the basics: Decompile, Import into new DB, Re-register> DAO360.dll, checked references, checked DAO360.dll versions, made sure> registered DAO360.dll is the same one in the references, rebooted Pc,> rechecked the code.> > Still works with full version but not runtime.> > I've seen this error posted on the net with various solution but I most of> them were never resolved or gave up.> > Some of my research points to the DAO360.dll but I've tried a million things> in that area and there is still nothing definitive about it.> > > > It affect RTF's only. Snapshot always works, but my customer must use RTF. > > > > Help!> > -- > AccessD mailing list> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Nov  4 08:45:08 2008
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 09:45:08 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Error 2587 can't complete
	theOutputoperation.Version: 2000 (9.0)
References: <007f01c93e87$782e5820$6401a8c0@LaptopXP><03cd01c93e88$55e69920$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
	<008b01c93e8a$d48dc6c0$6401a8c0@LaptopXP>
Message-ID: <042201c93e8b$f056b3c0$2f8601c7@SusanOne>



> Convert SNP to RTF? Never heard of that. It's a pretty complex report.
> Is there a Add-IN or app to do the conversion?

======I have no idea, just a thought... 

Susan H. 


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Nov  4 08:58:30 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 06:58:30 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Multi User Access question
Message-ID: <B3B8AD0C1E6448789E9D8F9F54C0C753@HAL9005>

 
Dear List:

Does anyone know the answer to Dixon's question below?

TIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Dixon [mailto:dixon at fossware.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:46 AM
To: Doug_Murphy; Rocky_Smolin
Subject: Multi User Access question

Guys,

I have a client who wants to limit the number of simultaneous users. Any
thoughts on how to approach this?

  
Dixon
dixon at fossware.net
2008-11-04




From askolits at nni.com  Tue Nov  4 09:00:46 2008
From: askolits at nni.com (John Skolits)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 10:00:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Error 2587 can't
	completetheOutputoperation.Version: 2000 (9.0)
In-Reply-To: <042201c93e8b$f056b3c0$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
References: <007f01c93e87$782e5820$6401a8c0@LaptopXP><03cd01c93e88$55e69920$2f8601c7@SusanOne><008b01c93e8a$d48dc6c0$6401a8c0@LaptopXP>
	<042201c93e8b$f056b3c0$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <008d01c93e8e$1dbddcb0$6401a8c0@LaptopXP>

Oh, well. Pretty neat thought.

But, I think I may be closing in on a solution. I'm creating a table based
on the query behind the report. Then using the table as the report's source
rather than the query. 

I'll let you all know.

John

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:45 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Runtime Error 2587 can't
completetheOutputoperation.Version: 2000 (9.0)



> Convert SNP to RTF? Never heard of that. It's a pretty complex report.
> Is there a Add-IN or app to do the conversion?

======I have no idea, just a thought... 

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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Nov  4 09:02:52 2008
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 10:02:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Multi User Access question
References: <B3B8AD0C1E6448789E9D8F9F54C0C753@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <047801c93e8e$6a4eff50$2f8601c7@SusanOne>

Well, if it can be done, Drew will know how. 

Susan H. 


> 
> Dear List:
> 
> Does anyone know the answer to Dixon's question below?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.e-z-mrp.com
> www.bchacc.com
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dixon [mailto:dixon at fossware.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:46 AM
> To: Doug_Murphy; Rocky_Smolin
> Subject: Multi User Access question
> 
> Guys,
> 
> I have a client who wants to limit the number of simultaneous users. Any
> thoughts on how to approach this?
> 
>  
> Dixon
> dixon at fossware.net
> 2008-11-04
> 
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Nov  4 09:25:24 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 07:25:24 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Error 2587 can't complete
	theOutputoperation.Version: 2000 (9.0)
In-Reply-To: <008a01c93e8a$af732e20$6401a8c0@LaptopXP>
References: <007f01c93e87$782e5820$6401a8c0@LaptopXP><77AE20EE90B64C8F91DC297E2B15BC62@HAL9005>
	<008a01c93e8a$af732e20$6401a8c0@LaptopXP>
Message-ID: <13D6E7E98977430B851F91E878F3D4A1@HAL9005>

You might call Sagekey and see if they have any ideas.  Their tech support
is terrific. 


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Skolits
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:36 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Runtime Error 2587 can't complete
theOutputoperation.Version: 2000 (9.0)

Everyone has Windows 2K. Access Runtime is Access 2000. I'm using Wise
Installation with SageKey Scripts

The code Snippet is nothing special:

DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, "ReportName", "RPT_01_AccessReport",
acFormatRTF, False

That makes me think. I'll create a button on my first screen that just does
the output. Right now the code is embedded in a bunch of other code.

BTW, I tested it with a report with just a label on it so I know it's not a
report issue. Besides, it always runs in Full Version Access.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:22 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Runtime Error 2587 can't complete the
Outputoperation.Version: 2000 (9.0)

What's the error?  Can you post the code snip?  Has anything changed on the
machines where it's occurring?  Upgrade to Vista?  Same Office version on
all machines? 


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Skolits
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:13 AM
To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Error 2587 can't complete the Output
operation.Version: 2000 (9.0)

I've spent probably 8-10 hours trying to fox this problem and can't figure
it out. Customer is getting a bit concerned and the pressure is on.

Really need help on this one.

 

 

This issue is intermittent and is starting to pop up on various PCs but not
all.
This has worked for a couple years as a runtime app with no problems. 

 

Essentially, the code does an OutputTo an rtf file and then the error
occurs. Works fine with full Access even on the same PC, but not runtime.

I've done all the basics: Decompile, Import into new DB, Re-register
DAO360.dll, checked references, checked DAO360.dll versions, made sure
registered DAO360.dll is the same one in the references, rebooted Pc,
rechecked the code.

Still works with full version but not runtime.

I've seen this error posted on the net with various solution but I most of
them were never resolved or gave up.

Some of my research points to the DAO360.dll but I've tried a million things
in that area and there is still nothing definitive about it.

 

It affect RTF's only. Snapshot always works, but my customer must use RTF.  

 

Help!

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From askolits at nni.com  Tue Nov  4 09:29:17 2008
From: askolits at nni.com (John Skolits)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 10:29:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Error 2587 can't
	completetheOutputoperation.Version: 2000 (9.0)
In-Reply-To: <13D6E7E98977430B851F91E878F3D4A1@HAL9005>
References: <007f01c93e87$782e5820$6401a8c0@LaptopXP><77AE20EE90B64C8F91DC297E2B15BC62@HAL9005><008a01c93e8a$af732e20$6401a8c0@LaptopXP>
	<13D6E7E98977430B851F91E878F3D4A1@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <008e01c93e92$19e4c460$6401a8c0@LaptopXP>

Yea, already did that with no luck.

John

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 10:25 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Runtime Error 2587 can't
completetheOutputoperation.Version: 2000 (9.0)

You might call Sagekey and see if they have any ideas.  Their tech support
is terrific. 


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Skolits
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:36 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Runtime Error 2587 can't complete
theOutputoperation.Version: 2000 (9.0)

Everyone has Windows 2K. Access Runtime is Access 2000. I'm using Wise
Installation with SageKey Scripts

The code Snippet is nothing special:

DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, "ReportName", "RPT_01_AccessReport",
acFormatRTF, False

That makes me think. I'll create a button on my first screen that just does
the output. Right now the code is embedded in a bunch of other code.

BTW, I tested it with a report with just a label on it so I know it's not a
report issue. Besides, it always runs in Full Version Access.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:22 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Runtime Error 2587 can't complete the
Outputoperation.Version: 2000 (9.0)

What's the error?  Can you post the code snip?  Has anything changed on the
machines where it's occurring?  Upgrade to Vista?  Same Office version on
all machines? 


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Skolits
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:13 AM
To: accessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Runtime Error 2587 can't complete the Output
operation.Version: 2000 (9.0)

I've spent probably 8-10 hours trying to fox this problem and can't figure
it out. Customer is getting a bit concerned and the pressure is on.

Really need help on this one.

 

 

This issue is intermittent and is starting to pop up on various PCs but not
all.
This has worked for a couple years as a runtime app with no problems. 

 

Essentially, the code does an OutputTo an rtf file and then the error
occurs. Works fine with full Access even on the same PC, but not runtime.

I've done all the basics: Decompile, Import into new DB, Re-register
DAO360.dll, checked references, checked DAO360.dll versions, made sure
registered DAO360.dll is the same one in the references, rebooted Pc,
rechecked the code.

Still works with full version but not runtime.

I've seen this error posted on the net with various solution but I most of
them were never resolved or gave up.

Some of my research points to the DAO360.dll but I've tried a million things
in that area and there is still nothing definitive about it.

 

It affect RTF's only. Snapshot always works, but my customer must use RTF.  

 

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Nov  4 09:34:31 2008
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 09:34:31 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Multi User Access question
In-Reply-To: <B3B8AD0C1E6448789E9D8F9F54C0C753@HAL9005>
References: <B3B8AD0C1E6448789E9D8F9F54C0C753@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <8DD3F33C325A460994740E14A9493416@danwaters>

Yes!

I have a procedure to do that, but right now I have to go Vote!

I'll post it this afternoon.

Dan

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Multi User Access question

 
Dear List:

Does anyone know the answer to Dixon's question below?

TIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Dixon [mailto:dixon at fossware.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:46 AM
To: Doug_Murphy; Rocky_Smolin
Subject: Multi User Access question

Guys,

I have a client who wants to limit the number of simultaneous users. Any
thoughts on how to approach this?

  
Dixon
dixon at fossware.net
2008-11-04


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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Nov  4 09:43:34 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 07:43:34 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Multi User Access question
In-Reply-To: <8DD3F33C325A460994740E14A9493416@danwaters>
References: <B3B8AD0C1E6448789E9D8F9F54C0C753@HAL9005>
	<8DD3F33C325A460994740E14A9493416@danwaters>
Message-ID: <76C9D6BDDD22427BA3F91025E0CD5272@HAL9005>

Great, Dan.  Thanks.  I'll forward to Dixon and send over your stuff when it
appears.  Hope your line is short.   


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 7:35 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Multi User Access question

Yes!

I have a procedure to do that, but right now I have to go Vote!

I'll post it this afternoon.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Multi User Access question

 
Dear List:

Does anyone know the answer to Dixon's question below?

TIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Dixon [mailto:dixon at fossware.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:46 AM
To: Doug_Murphy; Rocky_Smolin
Subject: Multi User Access question

Guys,

I have a client who wants to limit the number of simultaneous users. Any
thoughts on how to approach this?

  
Dixon
dixon at fossware.net
2008-11-04


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From DWUTKA at Marlow.com  Tue Nov  4 10:32:57 2008
From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 10:32:57 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Multi User Access question
In-Reply-To: <047801c93e8e$6a4eff50$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B21DDEE1@MIEXCH.marlow.ii-vi.net>

Not really, I'm into maximizing the number of concurrent users.  On a
theory level, however, you can read the .ldb file, and the .mdb header,
and determine the number of current users...then it's just a matter of
kicking a user out if your arbitrary limit is reached.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:03 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Multi User Access question

Well, if it can be done, Drew will know how. 

Susan H. 


> 
> Dear List:
> 
> Does anyone know the answer to Dixon's question below?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.e-z-mrp.com
> www.bchacc.com
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dixon [mailto:dixon at fossware.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:46 AM
> To: Doug_Murphy; Rocky_Smolin
> Subject: Multi User Access question
> 
> Guys,
> 
> I have a client who wants to limit the number of simultaneous users.
Any
> thoughts on how to approach this?
> 
>  
> Dixon
> dixon at fossware.net
> 2008-11-04
> 
> 
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Nov  4 10:35:13 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:35:13 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] License Problem?
Message-ID: <C32B752239D343D0BA739CFB6E33CE3F@HAL9005>

Dear List:
 
I sent an Access 200 mde to a guy in Malaysia.  Previous mdes worked. This
one, however, gives him the following message before the program even starts
- right after he double clicks the mde:
 
"The expression On Open you entered as the event property setting produced
the following error: License information for this component not found.  You
do not have an appropriate license to use this functionality in the design
environment."
 
 
I found this on the Microsoft site but I'm not using any OCXs:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q177799/
 
 
Has anyone encountered this one before?
 
MTIA
 
Rocky



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov  4 10:51:55 2008
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:51:55 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] License Problem?
Message-ID: <s9108bdc.054@cactus.dk>

Hi Rocky

So which ocx are you using?

/gustav

>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 04-11-2008 17:35 >>>
Dear List:
 
I sent an Access 200 mde to a guy in Malaysia.  Previous mdes worked. This
one, however, gives him the following message before the program even starts
- right after he double clicks the mde:
 
"The expression On Open you entered as the event property setting produced
the following error: License information for this component not found.  You
do not have an appropriate license to use this functionality in the design
environment."
 
 
I found this on the Microsoft site but I'm not using any OCXs:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q177799/ 
 
 
Has anyone encountered this one before?
 
MTIA
 
Rocky





From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Nov  4 10:58:04 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:58:04 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] License Problem?
In-Reply-To: <s9108bdc.054@cactus.dk>
References: <s9108bdc.054@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <54C022BBA76D4026AD5CC1C96AB48CDB@HAL9005>

None that I know of.  And only the standard four references checked - VBA,
11.0 object library, VBA Extensibility 5.3, and DAO 3.6. 


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:52 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] License Problem?

Hi Rocky

So which ocx are you using?

/gustav

>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 04-11-2008 17:35 >>>
Dear List:
 
I sent an Access 200 mde to a guy in Malaysia.  Previous mdes worked. This
one, however, gives him the following message before the program even starts
- right after he double clicks the mde:
 
"The expression On Open you entered as the event property setting produced
the following error: License information for this component not found.  You
do not have an appropriate license to use this functionality in the design
environment."
 
 
I found this on the Microsoft site but I'm not using any OCXs:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q177799/ 
 
 
Has anyone encountered this one before?
 
MTIA
 
Rocky



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From iggy at nanaimo.ark.com  Tue Nov  4 12:05:06 2008
From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com (Tony Septav)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:05:06 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] License Problem?
In-Reply-To: <C32B752239D343D0BA739CFB6E33CE3F@HAL9005>
References: <C32B752239D343D0BA739CFB6E33CE3F@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <49108ED2.7080106@nanaimo.ark.com>

Hey Rocky
Not much help but....
Yeah I ran into something very similiar when I tried to fire up the 
security macro form from within an application.  At the time I didn't 
have the time to "dink" with it, so I used msecure10.mde instead.


Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote:

>Dear List:
> 
>I sent an Access 200 mde to a guy in Malaysia.  Previous mdes worked. This
>one, however, gives him the following message before the program even starts
>- right after he double clicks the mde:
> 
>"The expression On Open you entered as the event property setting produced
>the following error: License information for this component not found.  You
>do not have an appropriate license to use this functionality in the design
>environment."
> 
> 
>I found this on the Microsoft site but I'm not using any OCXs:
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q177799/
> 
> 
>Has anyone encountered this one before?
> 
>MTIA
> 
>Rocky
>
>  
>



From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Nov  4 11:12:54 2008
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:12:54 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Multi User Access question
References: <A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B21DDEE1@MIEXCH.marlow.ii-vi.net>
Message-ID: <056201c93ea0$96593d10$2f8601c7@SusanOne>

I'm wondering why you'd want to limit the number of users?

Susan H. 


> Not really, I'm into maximizing the number of concurrent users.  On a
> theory level, however, you can read the .ldb file, and the .mdb header,
> and determine the number of current users...then it's just a matter of
> kicking a user out if your arbitrary limit is reached.
> 
> Well, if it can be done, Drew will know how. 
>> Does anyone know the answer to Dixon's question below?



From DWUTKA at Marlow.com  Tue Nov  4 11:28:07 2008
From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:28:07 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Multi User Access question
In-Reply-To: <056201c93ea0$96593d10$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B21DDEE5@MIEXCH.marlow.ii-vi.net>

Probably performance issues.  That's just a guess though....

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 11:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Multi User Access question

I'm wondering why you'd want to limit the number of users?

Susan H. 


> Not really, I'm into maximizing the number of concurrent users.  On a
> theory level, however, you can read the .ldb file, and the .mdb
header,
> and determine the number of current users...then it's just a matter of
> kicking a user out if your arbitrary limit is reached.
> 
> Well, if it can be done, Drew will know how. 
>> Does anyone know the answer to Dixon's question below?

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Nov  4 11:39:49 2008
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:39:49 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Multi User Access question
In-Reply-To: <056201c93ea0$96593d10$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
References: <A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B21DDEE1@MIEXCH.marlow.ii-vi.net>
	<056201c93ea0$96593d10$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <F47E1AC1C5354CCD904FDC913857C29E@danwaters>

Susan,

In my system I charge for concurrent seat licenses.  If someone logs in and
they are over the limit, they get a screen telling them who is already in,
and then the system exists when they push OK.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 11:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Multi User Access question

I'm wondering why you'd want to limit the number of users?

Susan H. 


> Not really, I'm into maximizing the number of concurrent users.  On a
> theory level, however, you can read the .ldb file, and the .mdb header,
> and determine the number of current users...then it's just a matter of
> kicking a user out if your arbitrary limit is reached.
> 
> Well, if it can be done, Drew will know how. 
>> Does anyone know the answer to Dixon's question below?

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From DWUTKA at Marlow.com  Tue Nov  4 11:44:03 2008
From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:44:03 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Multi User Access question
In-Reply-To: <F47E1AC1C5354CCD904FDC913857C29E@danwaters>
Message-ID: <A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B21DDEE6@MIEXCH.marlow.ii-vi.net>

Didn't think about that....  good point.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 11:40 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Multi User Access question

Susan,

In my system I charge for concurrent seat licenses.  If someone logs in
and
they are over the limit, they get a screen telling them who is already
in,
and then the system exists when they push OK.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 11:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Multi User Access question

I'm wondering why you'd want to limit the number of users?

Susan H. 


> Not really, I'm into maximizing the number of concurrent users.  On a
> theory level, however, you can read the .ldb file, and the .mdb
header,
> and determine the number of current users...then it's just a matter of
> kicking a user out if your arbitrary limit is reached.
> 
> Well, if it can be done, Drew will know how. 
>> Does anyone know the answer to Dixon's question below?

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Nov  4 12:44:49 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 10:44:49 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Multi User Access question
In-Reply-To: <056201c93ea0$96593d10$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
References: <A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B21DDEE1@MIEXCH.marlow.ii-vi.net>
	<056201c93ea0$96593d10$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <C9D53F1C8156443A979ADA2C1F0490F9@HAL9005>

If you're using a pay per seat license model. 


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Multi User Access question

I'm wondering why you'd want to limit the number of users?

Susan H. 


> Not really, I'm into maximizing the number of concurrent users.  On a 
> theory level, however, you can read the .ldb file, and the .mdb 
> header, and determine the number of current users...then it's just a 
> matter of kicking a user out if your arbitrary limit is reached.
> 
> Well, if it can be done, Drew will know how. 
>> Does anyone know the answer to Dixon's question below?

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Nov  4 15:10:46 2008
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:10:46 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Multi User Access question
In-Reply-To: <B3B8AD0C1E6448789E9D8F9F54C0C753@HAL9005>
References: <B3B8AD0C1E6448789E9D8F9F54C0C753@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <AC0F2549D8264EE7997FC5578D0E58DB@danwaters>

Hi Rocky - this is my procedure.  You'll need to tweak it for yourself.  

A System Owner is a role that I've defined, and you probably won't want to
use that part.  

Good Luck!

--------------------------------

' C Copyright ProMation Systems, Inc.
' Procedure : CheckUserLicenseLimit
' DateTime  : 8/24/2007 10:12
' Author    : Dan Waters
' Purpose   : Prevent too many users from loggin in.  A single System Owner
can log in past the upper limit.
  
Public Sub CheckUserLicenseLimitX()
On Error GoTo EH
    
    Dim con As New ADODB.Connection
    Dim rst As New ADODB.Recordset
    Dim stgFullName As String
    Dim rstFullname As DAO.Recordset
    Dim stgUserName As String
    Dim stgNameList As String
    Dim intUsers As Integer
    Dim stgUsers As String
    Dim rstUsers As DAO.Recordset
    Dim stgLockout As String
    Dim rstLockout As DAO.Recordset

    '-- The user roster is exposed as a provider-specific schema rowset _
        in the Jet 4.0 OLE DB provider.  You have to use a GUID to _
        reference the schema, as provider-specific schemas are not _
        listed in ADO's type library for schema rowsets

    '-- This is from MSKB 198755 and is specific to Access 2000 & up
    con.Open "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;Data Source=" &
DBEngine.SystemDB

    Set rst = con.OpenSchema(adSchemaProviderSpecific, ,
"{947bb102-5d43-11d1-bdbf-00c04fb92675}")
    
    '-- Count the number of currently logged in users
    Do While rst.EOF = False
        stgUserName = Left$(rst(1), InStr(1, rst(1), Chr(0)) - 1)
        stgFullName = "SELECT Person FROM tblPeopleMain" _
            & " WHERE UserName = '" & stgUserName & "'"
        Set rstFullname = CodeDb.OpenRecordset(stgFullName, dbOpenDynaset,
dbSeeChanges, dbReadOnly)
        If stgUserName <> "Admin" Then
            If stgNameList = "" Then
                stgNameList = rstFullname("Person")
            Else
                stgNameList = rstFullname("Person") & ", " & vbNewLine &
stgNameList
            End If
            intUsers = intUsers + 1
        End If
        rst.MoveNext
        rstFullname.Close
        Set rstFullname = Nothing
    Loop
    rst.Close
    Set rst = Nothing
    
    '-- If the person logging in is a System Owner, then allow one of them
to log in even if the limit has been reached.
    If CurrentJobRole("System Owner") = True Then
        intUsers = intUsers - 1
    End If
    
    '-- Look for too many users logging in
    stgUsers = "SELECT ThisMonthUsers FROM tblUserLicenseInformation" _
        & " WHERE BusinessGroup = '" & BusinessGroupCurrentPerson & "'"
    Set rstUsers = CodeDb.OpenRecordset(stgUsers, dbOpenSnapshot)
    If intUsers >= rstUsers("ThisMonthUsers") Then
        stgLockout = "SELECT * FROM tblUserLicenseLockouts"
        Set rstLockout = CodeDb.OpenRecordset(stgLockout, dbOpenDynaset,
dbSeeChanges)
        rstLockout.AddNew
        rstLockout("Name") = CurrentPerson
        rstLockout("LockoutDate") = CurrentDate
        rstLockout("LockoutTime") = Format(Now(), "Medium Time")
        rstLockout("AllowedUsers") = rstUsers("ThisMonthUsers")
        rstLockout("BusinessGroup") = rstUsers(BusinessGroupCurrentPerson)
        rstLockout.Update
        rstLockout.Close
        Set rstLockout = Nothing
        MsgBox "There are insufficient User Licenses for you to log on." _
            & "  The following people are now logged on to " & SystemAcronym
& ":" _
            & vbNewLine & vbNewLine _
            & stgNameList & "@ @", vbExclamation + vbOKOnly, "Insufficient
User Licenses"
        rstUsers.Close
        Set rstUsers = Nothing
        DoCmd.Quit
        Exit Sub
    End If
    
    rstUsers.Close
    Set rstUsers = Nothing

    Exit Sub
    
EH:

End Sub
-------------------------------------

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Multi User Access question

 
Dear List:

Does anyone know the answer to Dixon's question below?

TIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Dixon [mailto:dixon at fossware.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:46 AM
To: Doug_Murphy; Rocky_Smolin
Subject: Multi User Access question

Guys,

I have a client who wants to limit the number of simultaneous users. Any
thoughts on how to approach this?

  
Dixon
dixon at fossware.net
2008-11-04


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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Nov  4 15:26:27 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:26:27 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Multi User Access question
In-Reply-To: <AC0F2549D8264EE7997FC5578D0E58DB@danwaters>
References: <B3B8AD0C1E6448789E9D8F9F54C0C753@HAL9005>
	<AC0F2549D8264EE7997FC5578D0E58DB@danwaters>
Message-ID: <14651B1D61D34261AD7D1B7097128BD4@HAL9005>

Dan:

Thanks so much.  I will forward this to Dixon.

Best,
 


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Multi User Access question

Hi Rocky - this is my procedure.  You'll need to tweak it for yourself.  

A System Owner is a role that I've defined, and you probably won't want to
use that part.  

Good Luck!

--------------------------------

' C Copyright ProMation Systems, Inc.
' Procedure : CheckUserLicenseLimit
' DateTime  : 8/24/2007 10:12
' Author    : Dan Waters
' Purpose   : Prevent too many users from loggin in.  A single System Owner
can log in past the upper limit.
  
Public Sub CheckUserLicenseLimitX()
On Error GoTo EH
    
    Dim con As New ADODB.Connection
    Dim rst As New ADODB.Recordset
    Dim stgFullName As String
    Dim rstFullname As DAO.Recordset
    Dim stgUserName As String
    Dim stgNameList As String
    Dim intUsers As Integer
    Dim stgUsers As String
    Dim rstUsers As DAO.Recordset
    Dim stgLockout As String
    Dim rstLockout As DAO.Recordset

    '-- The user roster is exposed as a provider-specific schema rowset _
        in the Jet 4.0 OLE DB provider.  You have to use a GUID to _
        reference the schema, as provider-specific schemas are not _
        listed in ADO's type library for schema rowsets

    '-- This is from MSKB 198755 and is specific to Access 2000 & up
    con.Open "Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;Data Source=" &
DBEngine.SystemDB

    Set rst = con.OpenSchema(adSchemaProviderSpecific, ,
"{947bb102-5d43-11d1-bdbf-00c04fb92675}")
    
    '-- Count the number of currently logged in users
    Do While rst.EOF = False
        stgUserName = Left$(rst(1), InStr(1, rst(1), Chr(0)) - 1)
        stgFullName = "SELECT Person FROM tblPeopleMain" _
            & " WHERE UserName = '" & stgUserName & "'"
        Set rstFullname = CodeDb.OpenRecordset(stgFullName, dbOpenDynaset,
dbSeeChanges, dbReadOnly)
        If stgUserName <> "Admin" Then
            If stgNameList = "" Then
                stgNameList = rstFullname("Person")
            Else
                stgNameList = rstFullname("Person") & ", " & vbNewLine &
stgNameList
            End If
            intUsers = intUsers + 1
        End If
        rst.MoveNext
        rstFullname.Close
        Set rstFullname = Nothing
    Loop
    rst.Close
    Set rst = Nothing
    
    '-- If the person logging in is a System Owner, then allow one of them
to log in even if the limit has been reached.
    If CurrentJobRole("System Owner") = True Then
        intUsers = intUsers - 1
    End If
    
    '-- Look for too many users logging in
    stgUsers = "SELECT ThisMonthUsers FROM tblUserLicenseInformation" _
        & " WHERE BusinessGroup = '" & BusinessGroupCurrentPerson & "'"
    Set rstUsers = CodeDb.OpenRecordset(stgUsers, dbOpenSnapshot)
    If intUsers >= rstUsers("ThisMonthUsers") Then
        stgLockout = "SELECT * FROM tblUserLicenseLockouts"
        Set rstLockout = CodeDb.OpenRecordset(stgLockout, dbOpenDynaset,
dbSeeChanges)
        rstLockout.AddNew
        rstLockout("Name") = CurrentPerson
        rstLockout("LockoutDate") = CurrentDate
        rstLockout("LockoutTime") = Format(Now(), "Medium Time")
        rstLockout("AllowedUsers") = rstUsers("ThisMonthUsers")
        rstLockout("BusinessGroup") = rstUsers(BusinessGroupCurrentPerson)
        rstLockout.Update
        rstLockout.Close
        Set rstLockout = Nothing
        MsgBox "There are insufficient User Licenses for you to log on." _
            & "  The following people are now logged on to " & SystemAcronym
& ":" _
            & vbNewLine & vbNewLine _
            & stgNameList & "@ @", vbExclamation + vbOKOnly, "Insufficient
User Licenses"
        rstUsers.Close
        Set rstUsers = Nothing
        DoCmd.Quit
        Exit Sub
    End If
    
    rstUsers.Close
    Set rstUsers = Nothing

    Exit Sub
    
EH:

End Sub
-------------------------------------

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:59 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] FW: Multi User Access question

 
Dear List:

Does anyone know the answer to Dixon's question below?

TIA,

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Dixon [mailto:dixon at fossware.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 6:46 AM
To: Doug_Murphy; Rocky_Smolin
Subject: Multi User Access question

Guys,

I have a client who wants to limit the number of simultaneous users. Any
thoughts on how to approach this?

  
Dixon
dixon at fossware.net
2008-11-04


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From mmm at tbig.com  Tue Nov  4 19:15:35 2008
From: mmm at tbig.com (Myke Myers)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 20:15:35 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access Connected to the Cloud (Microsoft Huron)
Message-ID: <E1AE41225C504F53A19365CBEB0232EA@TBIG1>

I've watched the videos below.

Huron could give many Access apps and developers new opportunities ... if it
works reliably.

Myke

http://sqlserviceslabs.net/huron.html

The first endpoints that have been implemented by Microsoft are for
Microsoft Office Access and SQL Server Compact. These endpoints allow people
to share Access and SQL Server Compact applications (including the whole
schema with forms, reports, code, views and tables from Access) to the
cloud. The changes that are made by the various parties are then
synchronized back to the local copy.
The following features have been implemented for the endpoint:

.         Share the whole database with the cloud.

.         Share only a subset of tables with the cloud.

.         Subscribe to a database that has been published in the cloud.

.         Share a link to the published database as link. This allows
sharing the location via email.

.         Schedule the synchronization process and enable background
synchronization:

.         Limit the users who are allowed to access the database in the
cloud.

.         Unsubscribe the current copy of the database. The database stays
in the cloud but the current copy is no longer kept in sync.

.         Completely remove the database from the cloud.

New Videos!

Codename "Huron" - Access Desktop Database Sharing
http://download.microsoft.com/download/c/0/8/c085dcc8-66a1-43b7-814e-d416689
6a139/Codename_Huron_Access_Final_Part1.wmv
Codename "Huron" - Making changes in SQL Data Services data hub and
synchronizing to Access shared desktops
http://download.microsoft.com/download/c/0/8/c085dcc8-66a1-43b7-814e-d416689
6a139/Codename_Huron_Access_Final_Part2.wmv
Codename "Huron" -  Enabling custom database support
http://download.microsoft.com/download/c/0/8/c085dcc8-66a1-43b7-814e-d416689
6a139/Codename_Huron_Access_Final_Part3.wmv
 





From delam at zyterra.com  Wed Nov  5 12:48:30 2008
From: delam at zyterra.com (Debbie Elam)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:48:30 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Excel link weirdness
Message-ID: <20081105184833.TKAA2908.atlmtaow03.cingularme.com@Inbox>

I am linking an excel spreadsheet into an access database, both 2002.  Some fields are not translating over to access at all and I cannot discover the reason.  For instance one field is client/matter number and the values often repeat.  The identical value will sometimes show up and other times be the #!NUM# I cannot interpret value.

Any thoughts of some gotchas to look for?  

Debbie 

Debbie Elam



From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Wed Nov  5 12:55:56 2008
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:55:56 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Excel link weirdness
In-Reply-To: <20081105184833.TKAA2908.atlmtaow03.cingularme.com@Inbox>
References: <20081105184833.TKAA2908.atlmtaow03.cingularme.com@Inbox>
Message-ID: <4911ec40.09a8100a.7791.7ac8@mx.google.com>

My thoughts are the "/".  I know that if I put a "-" (minus) in the
title/header of a column then Access treats it as if I am saying "A minus B"
when all I want is A-B.  Change the column heading to avoid spaces and
non-alpha characters.

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Debbie Elam
Sent: 05 November 2008 18:49
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Excel link weirdness

I am linking an excel spreadsheet into an access database, both 2002.  Some
fields are not translating over to access at all and I cannot discover the
reason.  For instance one field is client/matter number and the values often
repeat.  The identical value will sometimes show up and other times be the
#!NUM# I cannot interpret value.

Any thoughts of some gotchas to look for?  

Debbie 

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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Wed Nov  5 13:31:21 2008
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 19:31:21 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Excel link weirdness
In-Reply-To: <20081105184833.TKAA2908.atlmtaow03.cingularme.com@Inbox>
References: <20081105184833.TKAA2908.atlmtaow03.cingularme.com@Inbox>
Message-ID: <BAY127-W472484D3F145583DC381FED21F0@phx.gbl>


Debbie,
 
I have some issues with importing numbers from excel.  Excel will sometimes store a number as text...and Access won't import this into a number field.  I just linked an excel file that I know has this issue...and had the result you described.  The cells that stored my number as text showed as #!NUM# when viewed through the link in access.
 
I believe if you check your spreadsheet you will find some numbers stored as text.
 
Mark A. Matte
 
> From: delam at zyterra.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:48:30 -0600> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: [AccessD] Excel link weirdness> > I am linking an excel spreadsheet into an access database, both 2002. Some fields are not translating over to access at all and I cannot discover the reason. For instance one field is client/matter number and the values often repeat. The identical value will sometimes show up and other times be the #!NUM# I cannot interpret value.> > Any thoughts of some gotchas to look for? > > Debbie > > Debbie Elam> > -- > AccessD mailing list> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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From delam at zyterra.com  Wed Nov  5 13:49:57 2008
From: delam at zyterra.com (Debbie Elam)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 13:49:57 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Excel link weirdness
Message-ID: <20081105195000.XMMB28817.atlmtaow02.cingularme.com@Inbox>

That occurred to me just a few minutes ago too.  I am trying to get all of them as text, since there are 0s that get dropped in number format that are meaningful.  I am still getting link as numbers, and the same fields are not coming through despite all being text now.  

I think this may be the right track, but I am missing a piece.

Debbie 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 1:31 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel link weirdness


Debbie,
 
I have some issues with importing numbers from excel.  Excel will sometimes store a number as text...and Access won't import this into a number field.  I just linked an excel file that I know has this issue...and had the result you described.  The cells that stored my number as text showed as #!NUM# when viewed through the link in access.
 
I believe if you check your spreadsheet you will find some numbers stored as text.
 
Mark A. Matte
 
> From: delam at zyterra.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:48:30 -0600> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: [AccessD] Excel link weirdness> > I am linking an excel spreadsheet into an access database, both 2002. Some fields are not translating over to access at all and I cannot discover the reason. For instance one field is client/matter number and the values often repeat. The identical value will sometimes show up and other times be the #!NUM# I cannot interpret value.> > Any thoughts of some gotchas to look for? > > Debbie > > Debbie Elam> > -- > AccessD mailing list> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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From delam at zyterra.com  Wed Nov  5 13:30:45 2008
From: delam at zyterra.com (Debbie Elam)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 13:30:45 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Excel link weirdness
Message-ID: <20081105193047.VHWI28817.atlmtaow02.cingularme.com@Inbox>

I redid all titles to avoid all but alpha numeric values.  I do not see any differences in the valuex that did show up, vs those that had not.  They were in the same column.

Debbie 

-----Original Message-----
From: Max Wanadoo <max.wanadoo at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:55 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel link weirdness

My thoughts are the "/".  I know that if I put a "-" (minus) in the
title/header of a column then Access treats it as if I am saying "A minus B"
when all I want is A-B.  Change the column heading to avoid spaces and
non-alpha characters.

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Debbie Elam
Sent: 05 November 2008 18:49
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Excel link weirdness

I am linking an excel spreadsheet into an access database, both 2002.  Some
fields are not translating over to access at all and I cannot discover the
reason.  For instance one field is client/matter number and the values often
repeat.  The identical value will sometimes show up and other times be the
#!NUM# I cannot interpret value.

Any thoughts of some gotchas to look for?  

Debbie 

Debbie Elam

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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Wed Nov  5 14:31:18 2008
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:31:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Excel link weirdness
References: <20081105195000.XMMB28817.atlmtaow02.cingularme.com@Inbox>
Message-ID: <099101c93f85$760ccb40$2f8601c7@SusanOne>

<http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-5276622.html>

Debbie, I don't know if you'll find any help, but thought I'd share this one 
just in case.

Susan H.


> That occurred to me just a few minutes ago too.  I am trying to get all of 
> them as text, since there are 0s that get dropped in number format that 
> are meaningful.  I am still getting link as numbers, and the same fields 
> are not coming through despite all being text now.
>
> I think this may be the right track, but I am missing a piece.
>
> Debbie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 1:31 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel link weirdness
>
>
> Debbie,
>
> I have some issues with importing numbers from excel.  Excel will 
> sometimes store a number as text...and Access won't import this into a 
> number field.  I just linked an excel file that I know has this 
> issue...and had the result you described.  The cells that stored my number 
> as text showed as #!NUM# when viewed through the link in access.
>
> I believe if you check your spreadsheet you will find some numbers stored 
> as text.
>
> Mark A. Matte
>
>> From: delam at zyterra.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:48:30 -0600> To: 
>> accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: [AccessD] Excel link weirdness> > 
>> I am linking an excel spreadsheet into an access database, both 2002. 
>> Some fields are not translating over to access at all and I cannot 
>> discover the reason. For instance one field is client/matter number and 
>> the values often repeat. The identical value will sometimes show up and 
>> other times be the #!NUM# I cannot interpret value.> > Any thoughts of 
>> some gotchas to look for? > > Debbie > > Debbie Elam> > -- > AccessD 
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From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Wed Nov  5 14:32:50 2008
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 20:32:50 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Excel link weirdness
In-Reply-To: <20081105193047.VHWI28817.atlmtaow02.cingularme.com@Inbox>
References: <20081105193047.VHWI28817.atlmtaow02.cingularme.com@Inbox>
Message-ID: <491202f5.0ec5100a.156c.ffffb63c@mx.google.com>

Have you tried the Wizard for importing or are you using the
docmd.transferspreadsheet code?
If the former, try telling it that the first row is NOT headers and see what
happens.

If the latter, try using the various optional values for import and see what
happens for each one.

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Debbie Elam
Sent: 05 November 2008 19:31
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel link weirdness

I redid all titles to avoid all but alpha numeric values.  I do not see any
differences in the valuex that did show up, vs those that had not.  They
were in the same column.

Debbie 

-----Original Message-----
From: Max Wanadoo <max.wanadoo at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:55 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel link weirdness

My thoughts are the "/".  I know that if I put a "-" (minus) in the
title/header of a column then Access treats it as if I am saying "A minus B"
when all I want is A-B.  Change the column heading to avoid spaces and
non-alpha characters.

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Debbie Elam
Sent: 05 November 2008 18:49
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Excel link weirdness

I am linking an excel spreadsheet into an access database, both 2002.  Some
fields are not translating over to access at all and I cannot discover the
reason.  For instance one field is client/matter number and the values often
repeat.  The identical value will sometimes show up and other times be the
#!NUM# I cannot interpret value.

Any thoughts of some gotchas to look for?  

Debbie 

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From pedro at plex.nl  Fri Nov  7 10:10:01 2008
From: pedro at plex.nl (pedro at plex.nl)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:10:01 (MET)
Subject: [AccessD] import question
Message-ID: <200811070910.mA79A1YO012395@mailhostC.plex.net>

Dear Group,

i have a txt files like this.

    31 maart 2008 13.00- 16.45 uur(zomertijd); 12 graden; half bewolkt(na 15.00 uur geheel bew); W 1-2; lekker weer.
32	13.49	13.3	228912-548226	m	48	p
33	14.33	20.9	228801-548621	v	62	p; eerste vrouwtje
34	14.34	21.0	228809-548625	m	43	p(s)
35	14.55		228824-548718	m	48	p
36	15.20		229054-549070	m	49	p
37	15.30		229092-549162	m	42	s
38	15.45		228959-549173	m	43	p
39	16.12		228858-548662	m	46	p
    5 april 2008 12.30-17.15 uur; 10 graden; half bewolkt; NW 2-3; lekker weer. Al veel hommels; 14 levendb.hagedis en 4 zandhagedis; baltsende haviken.
40	12.45		229336-549376	m	52	p
41	12.50		229334-549401	m	48	p(s)
42	12.52		229333-549403	m	49	p
43	12.55		229297-549382	m	41	p


Is it possible to import this in a table, so that the first sentence (1 or 2 lines) are placed in the first column with each record 
(which is:)
32   tab   13.47   tab   etc
33   tab   14.34   tab   etc


Thanks

Pedro Janssen




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov  7 05:01:13 2008
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:01:13 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Amazon: SQL Server
Message-ID: <s9142e1b.012@cactus.dk>

Hi all

While Microsoft is about to spin up Azure, Amazon is delivering EC2.
It is really simple to set up and - as far as I can judge - at very low costs. 

The quickly read guide on how to create a remote SQL Server of your choice, certificates (for security), and disk space for storage,  can be found here:

  http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/entry.jspa?externalID=1827

/gustav




From garykjos at gmail.com  Fri Nov  7 07:46:00 2008
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 07:46:00 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] import question
In-Reply-To: <200811070910.mA79A1YO012395@mailhostC.plex.net>
References: <200811070910.mA79A1YO012395@mailhostC.plex.net>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950811070546m7e85e068ha297b1427080b1bd@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Pedro,

So you want to skip some of the text lines?  And then put everything
else into a single column table?  Or I'm not understanding you
correctly.  What I do on imports like this is to bring in all the
records and then use a delete query to remove the stuff that you don't
want after it's in there. I often will import into a temp table, do
some cleanup using queries or manual record updating in table view and
then use an append query from the temp table to the data table I
actually want the data in after it's cleaned up.  This allows me to
edit out column headings from reports etc. Sometimes it takes a number
of "clean up" queries to eliminate all the odds and ends.

Gary Kjos

On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:10:01 (MET), pedro at plex.nl <pedro at plex.nl> wrote:
> Dear Group,
>
> i have a txt files like this.
>
>    31 maart 2008 13.00- 16.45 uur(zomertijd); 12 graden; half bewolkt(na 15.00 uur geheel bew); W 1-2; lekker weer.
> 32      13.49   13.3    228912-548226   m       48      p
> 33      14.33   20.9    228801-548621   v       62      p; eerste vrouwtje
> 34      14.34   21.0    228809-548625   m       43      p(s)
> 35      14.55           228824-548718   m       48      p
> 36      15.20           229054-549070   m       49      p
> 37      15.30           229092-549162   m       42      s
> 38      15.45           228959-549173   m       43      p
> 39      16.12           228858-548662   m       46      p
>    5 april 2008 12.30-17.15 uur; 10 graden; half bewolkt; NW 2-3; lekker weer. Al veel hommels; 14 levendb.hagedis en 4 zandhagedis; baltsende haviken.
> 40      12.45           229336-549376   m       52      p
> 41      12.50           229334-549401   m       48      p(s)
> 42      12.52           229333-549403   m       49      p
> 43      12.55           229297-549382   m       41      p
>
>
> Is it possible to import this in a table, so that the first sentence (1 or 2 lines) are placed in the first column with each record
> (which is:)
> 32   tab   13.47   tab   etc
> 33   tab   14.34   tab   etc
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>


-- 
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Fri Nov  7 08:37:22 2008
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:37:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] import question
References: <200811070910.mA79A1YO012395@mailhostC.plex.net>
Message-ID: <122801c940e6$718f4400$2f8601c7@SusanOne>

The Import Wizard will let you skip columns and it will let you skip or 
import the first row to use as headings or not. I don't know if that helps 
you or not.

Susan H.


> Dear Group,
>
> i have a txt files like this.
>
>    31 maart 2008 13.00- 16.45 uur(zomertijd); 12 graden; half bewolkt(na 
> 15.00 uur geheel bew); W 1-2; lekker weer.
> 32 13.49 13.3 228912-548226 m 48 p
> 33 14.33 20.9 228801-548621 v 62 p; eerste vrouwtje
> 34 14.34 21.0 228809-548625 m 43 p(s)
> 35 14.55 228824-548718 m 48 p
> 36 15.20 229054-549070 m 49 p
> 37 15.30 229092-549162 m 42 s
> 38 15.45 228959-549173 m 43 p
> 39 16.12 228858-548662 m 46 p
>    5 april 2008 12.30-17.15 uur; 10 graden; half bewolkt; NW 2-3; lekker 
> weer. Al veel hommels; 14 levendb.hagedis en 4 zandhagedis; baltsende 
> haviken.
> 40 12.45 229336-549376 m 52 p
> 41 12.50 229334-549401 m 48 p(s)
> 42 12.52 229333-549403 m 49 p
> 43 12.55 229297-549382 m 41 p
>
>
> Is it possible to import this in a table, so that the first sentence (1 or 
> 2 lines) are placed in the first column with each record
> (which is:)
> 32   tab   13.47   tab   etc
> 33   tab   14.34   tab   etc
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Pedro Janssen
>
>
> -- 
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com 



From pedro at plex.nl  Fri Nov  7 10:18:52 2008
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:18:52 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] import question
References: <200811070910.mA79A1YO012395@mailhostC.plex.net>
	<aea6c4950811070546m7e85e068ha297b1427080b1bd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002101c940f4$873587c0$410aa8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Gary, Susan and others,

The suggestions that you presented are all known by me, that was a to easy 
question.  I see that my explanation wasn't clear enough.
I need the line that is present before some lines of text with tabs, as the 
first column.

31 maart 2008 13.00- 16.45 uur(zomertijd); 12 graden .......  tab     32 
tab     13.47     tab    etc
31 maart 2008 13.00- 16.45 uur(zomertijd); 12 graden .......  tab     33 
tab     14.34     tab    etc
.......
.......
......
........
........
.........
5 april 2008 12.30-17.15 uur; 10 graden; half ...................... tab 
40     tab     12.45     tab     etc
5 april 2008 12.30-17.15 uur; 10 graden; half ...................... tab 
41     tab     12.50     tab     etc
...................
...............etc

I'll hope i am clear enough now

Pedro






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Kjos" <garykjos at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] import question


> Hi Pedro,
>
> So you want to skip some of the text lines?  And then put everything
> else into a single column table?  Or I'm not understanding you
> correctly.  What I do on imports like this is to bring in all the
> records and then use a delete query to remove the stuff that you don't
> want after it's in there. I often will import into a temp table, do
> some cleanup using queries or manual record updating in table view and
> then use an append query from the temp table to the data table I
> actually want the data in after it's cleaned up.  This allows me to
> edit out column headings from reports etc. Sometimes it takes a number
> of "clean up" queries to eliminate all the odds and ends.
>
> Gary Kjos
>
> On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:10:01 (MET), pedro at plex.nl <pedro at plex.nl> wrote:
>> Dear Group,
>>
>> i have a txt files like this.
>>
>>    31 maart 2008 13.00- 16.45 uur(zomertijd); 12 graden; half bewolkt(na 
>> 15.00 uur geheel bew); W 1-2; lekker weer.
>> 32      13.49   13.3    228912-548226   m       48      p
>> 33      14.33   20.9    228801-548621   v       62      p; eerste 
>> vrouwtje
>> 34      14.34   21.0    228809-548625   m       43      p(s)
>> 35      14.55           228824-548718   m       48      p
>> 36      15.20           229054-549070   m       49      p
>> 37      15.30           229092-549162   m       42      s
>> 38      15.45           228959-549173   m       43      p
>> 39      16.12           228858-548662   m       46      p
>>    5 april 2008 12.30-17.15 uur; 10 graden; half bewolkt; NW 2-3; lekker 
>> weer. Al veel hommels; 14 levendb.hagedis en 4 zandhagedis; baltsende 
>> haviken.
>> 40      12.45           229336-549376   m       52      p
>> 41      12.50           229334-549401   m       48      p(s)
>> 42      12.52           229333-549403   m       49      p
>> 43      12.55           229297-549382   m       41      p
>>
>>
>> Is it possible to import this in a table, so that the first sentence (1 
>> or 2 lines) are placed in the first column with each record
>> (which is:)
>> 32   tab   13.47   tab   etc
>> 33   tab   14.34   tab   etc
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Pedro Janssen
>>
>>
>> --
>> AccessD mailing list
>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>
>
> -- 
> Gary Kjos
> garykjos at gmail.com
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> 



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov  7 10:59:58 2008
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:59:58 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Excel link weirdness
Message-ID: <s914822b.032@cactus.dk>

Hi Debbie

You may try this tip:

Create a select query which takes all the fields from the Excel table and converts them to strings using CStr() which - contrary to Str() - accepts a string as input and strips the leading space from positive numbers.

If your linked Excel table is called xlsImport, something like this:

SELECT
    CStr(xlsImport.ID) AS ID,
    CStr(xlsImport.PartNo) AS PartNo,
    CStr(xlsImport.Specification) AS Specification,
    etc. ...,
    CStr(xlsImport.Note) AS Note
FROM
    xlsImport;

Then, whenever you need the data from that sheet (or named space), pull them from the query and not from the linked table.

If a field can contain nulls, modify the expression for that field like this:
    CStr("" & xlsImport.Note) AS Note

or, if you prefer so:
    CStr(Nz(xlsImport.Note)) AS Note

/gustav


>>> delam at zyterra.com 05-11-2008 19:48 >>>
I am linking an excel spreadsheet into an access database, both 2002.  Some fields are not translating over to access at all and I cannot discover the reason.  For instance one field is client/matter number and the values often repeat.  The identical value will sometimes show up and other times be the #!NUM# I cannot interpret value.

Any thoughts of some gotchas to look for?  

Debbie 

Debbie Elam




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov  7 11:07:54 2008
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:07:54 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] import question
Message-ID: <s914840e.035@cactus.dk>

Hi Pedro

There is no way to this other than read the file line by line (the loop) and create your own logic how to interpret the lines.
Here are the old code examples from Seth (not with us anymore, I think):

=========Reading from a file==========

    Dim dbs As Database
    Dim rst As Recordset
    Dim strRecordSource As String       'Source for recordset, can be SQL, table, or saved query
    Dim intFileDesc As Integer      	'File descriptor for output file
    Dim strSourceFile As String     	'Full path of source file
    Dim strTextLine As String       	'Input buffer
    Dim strField1 As String         	'Extracted Field1 from buffer
    Dim strField2 As String         	'Extracted Field2 from buffer
    Dim strField3 As String         	'Extracted Field3 from buffer

    Set dbs = CurrentDb
    Set rst = dbs.OpenRecordset(strRecordSource, dbOpenDynaset)
    
    intFileDesc = FreeFile
    Open strSourceFile For Input As #intFileDesc
    Do While Not EOF(intFileDesc) 	' Loop until end of file.
        Line Input #intFileDesc, strTextLine                  'Read line into buffer
	' <  use string handling to extract the fields from strTextLine
	'    and place them in strField1, strField2, & strField3         >
	rst.AddNew			'depending on your situation, you may want to find an
					'   existing record and Edit instead
	rst!Field1 = strField1
	rst!Field2 = strField2
	rst!Field3 = strField3
	rst.Update
    Loop
    Close #intFileDesc    'Close file.
    rst.Close		  'Close the recordset
    Set rst = Nothing
    Set dbs = Nothing     'Garbage handling before we exit the function

==================================================================================================
=========Writing to a file==========

    Dim dbs As Database
    Dim rst As Recordset
    Dim intFileDesc As Integer      'File descriptor for output file (number used by OS)
    Dim strOutput As String         'Output string for entry
    Dim strRecordSource As String   'Source for recordset, can be SQL, table, or saved query
    Dim strOutfile As String        'Full path to output file

    Kill strOutfile                 'Delete the output file before using it.
                                    'Not necessary, but ensures you have a clean copy every time
    intFileDesc = FreeFile          'Get a free file descriptor
    Open strOutfile For Binary As #intFileDesc 'Open the output file for writing
    Set dbs = CurrentDb
    Set rst = dbs.OpenRecordset(strRecordSource ) 'open the recordset based on our source string
    With rst    'make things easier for ourselves
	While Not .EOF
            strOutput = !Field1 & ";" & !Field2 & ";" & !Field3
            Print #intFileDesc, strOutput   'Print output string to file
            .MoveNext   	'Advance to next record in recordset
        Wend
        .Close                  'Close this recordset
    End With
    Close #intFileDesc          'Close output file
    Set rst = Nothing
    Set dbs = Nothing		'Garbage handling before we exit the function

==================================================================================================

/gustav


>>> pedro at plex.nl 07-11-2008 17:18 >>>
Hello Gary, Susan and others,

The suggestions that you presented are all known by me, that was a to easy 
question.  I see that my explanation wasn't clear enough.
I need the line that is present before some lines of text with tabs, as the 
first column.

31 maart 2008 13.00- 16.45 uur(zomertijd); 12 graden .......  tab     32 
tab     13.47     tab    etc
31 maart 2008 13.00- 16.45 uur(zomertijd); 12 graden .......  tab     33 
tab     14.34     tab    etc
.......
.......
......
........
........
.........
5 april 2008 12.30-17.15 uur; 10 graden; half ...................... tab 
40     tab     12.45     tab     etc
5 april 2008 12.30-17.15 uur; 10 graden; half ...................... tab 
41     tab     12.50     tab     etc
...................
...............etc

I'll hope i am clear enough now

Pedro





From garykjos at gmail.com  Fri Nov  7 11:14:23 2008
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 11:14:23 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] import question
In-Reply-To: <002101c940f4$873587c0$410aa8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
References: <200811070910.mA79A1YO012395@mailhostC.plex.net>
	<aea6c4950811070546m7e85e068ha297b1427080b1bd@mail.gmail.com>
	<002101c940f4$873587c0$410aa8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950811070914n4acfc64fh3a18108873fb1aba@mail.gmail.com>

Oh, I see now. I beleive you will need to write text reading code in
order to do this. It's not that hard, I've done it, but not for years.
One of our founding members has posted some VB code for doing text
file I/O on his website

http://seth.galitzer.net/node/11

Look for "File I/O in VB"

There are also outside utility programs that can do this type of
thing. I used to use one many years ago but have forgotten the
name...If it comes to me I will post again. I think writing a VB
import routine where you read the data character by character is what
you will need to do though.

GK

On 11/7/08, Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl> wrote:
> Hello Gary, Susan and others,
>
> The suggestions that you presented are all known by me, that was a to easy
> question.  I see that my explanation wasn't clear enough.
> I need the line that is present before some lines of text with tabs, as the
> first column.
>
> 31 maart 2008 13.00- 16.45 uur(zomertijd); 12 graden .......  tab     32
> tab     13.47     tab    etc
> 31 maart 2008 13.00- 16.45 uur(zomertijd); 12 graden .......  tab     33
> tab     14.34     tab    etc
> .......
> .......
> ......
> ........
> ........
> .........
> 5 april 2008 12.30-17.15 uur; 10 graden; half ...................... tab
> 40     tab     12.45     tab     etc
> 5 april 2008 12.30-17.15 uur; 10 graden; half ...................... tab
> 41     tab     12.50     tab     etc
> ...................
> ...............etc
>
> I'll hope i am clear enough now
>
> Pedro
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Kjos" <garykjos at gmail.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 2:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] import question
>
>
> > Hi Pedro,
> >
> > So you want to skip some of the text lines?  And then put everything
> > else into a single column table?  Or I'm not understanding you
> > correctly.  What I do on imports like this is to bring in all the
> > records and then use a delete query to remove the stuff that you don't
> > want after it's in there. I often will import into a temp table, do
> > some cleanup using queries or manual record updating in table view and
> > then use an append query from the temp table to the data table I
> > actually want the data in after it's cleaned up.  This allows me to
> > edit out column headings from reports etc. Sometimes it takes a number
> > of "clean up" queries to eliminate all the odds and ends.
> >
> > Gary Kjos
> >
> > On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:10:01 (MET), pedro at plex.nl <pedro at plex.nl> wrote:
> >> Dear Group,
> >>
> >> i have a txt files like this.
> >>
> >>    31 maart 2008 13.00- 16.45 uur(zomertijd); 12 graden; half bewolkt(na
> >> 15.00 uur geheel bew); W 1-2; lekker weer.
> >> 32      13.49   13.3    228912-548226   m       48      p
> >> 33      14.33   20.9    228801-548621   v       62      p; eerste
> >> vrouwtje
> >> 34      14.34   21.0    228809-548625   m       43      p(s)
> >> 35      14.55           228824-548718   m       48      p
> >> 36      15.20           229054-549070   m       49      p
> >> 37      15.30           229092-549162   m       42      s
> >> 38      15.45           228959-549173   m       43      p
> >> 39      16.12           228858-548662   m       46      p
> >>    5 april 2008 12.30-17.15 uur; 10 graden; half bewolkt; NW 2-3; lekker
> >> weer. Al veel hommels; 14 levendb.hagedis en 4 zandhagedis; baltsende
> >> haviken.
> >> 40      12.45           229336-549376   m       52      p
> >> 41      12.50           229334-549401   m       48      p(s)
> >> 42      12.52           229333-549403   m       49      p
> >> 43      12.55           229297-549382   m       41      p
> >>
> >>
> >> Is it possible to import this in a table, so that the first sentence (1
> >> or 2 lines) are placed in the first column with each record
> >> (which is:)
> >> 32   tab   13.47   tab   etc
> >> 33   tab   14.34   tab   etc
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Pedro Janssen
> >>
> >>
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> >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
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> >
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From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru  Fri Nov  7 11:44:38 2008
From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 20:44:38 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Amazon: SQL Server
In-Reply-To: <s9142e1b.012@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <002101c94100$82b4c420$6501a8c0@nant>

Hi Gustav,

But MS is expected to start playing dominating role on "Cloud Computing
front" rather soon:

"The IT industry is in the early stages of a major transition, one
comparable to the shift from mainframe to client/server. Microsoft will play
a major role over time because of its tremendous market footprint and
technical resources. There are many enterprises that consider themselves
Microsoft shops that have people that only know Microsoft tools and APIs.
Amazon and Google have been chipping away at these, but Microsoft is firmly
entrenched."

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Enterprise-Applications/Microsofts-Azure-Could-Ushe
r-in-The-Cloud-as-Commodity/ 

--
Shamil

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 2:01 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com; dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Amazon: SQL Server

Hi all

While Microsoft is about to spin up Azure, Amazon is delivering EC2.
It is really simple to set up and - as far as I can judge - at very low
costs. 

The quickly read guide on how to create a remote SQL Server of your choice,
certificates (for security), and disk space for storage,  can be found here:

  http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/entry.jspa?externalID=1827

/gustav


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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov  7 12:55:04 2008
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:55:04 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Amazon: SQL Server
Message-ID: <s9149d27.040@cactus.dk>

Hi Shamil

I know, but the difference is, that Amazon is on air and even can deliver a SLA with guaranteed uptime.

MS has just reached the Community Technology Preview:

  http://www.microsoft.com/azure/default.mspx 

and the only indication of costs is "competitive".

Note that you can download from MS SDKs to "Explore and experiment with the Azure SDKs locally":

  http://www.microsoft.com/azure/sdk.mspx 

If anyone checks this out, I'm sure feedback is welcomed!

/gustav


>>> shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru 07-11-2008 18:44 >>>
Hi Gustav,

But MS is expected to start playing dominating role on "Cloud Computing
front" rather soon:

"The IT industry is in the early stages of a major transition, one
comparable to the shift from mainframe to client/server. Microsoft will play
a major role over time because of its tremendous market footprint and
technical resources. There are many enterprises that consider themselves
Microsoft shops that have people that only know Microsoft tools and APIs.
Amazon and Google have been chipping away at these, but Microsoft is firmly
entrenched."

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Enterprise-Applications/Microsofts-Azure-Could-Ushe 
r-in-The-Cloud-as-Commodity/ 

--
Shamil

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 2:01 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com; dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: [AccessD] Amazon: SQL Server

Hi all

While Microsoft is about to spin up Azure, Amazon is delivering EC2.
It is really simple to set up and - as far as I can judge - at very low
costs. 

The quickly read guide on how to create a remote SQL Server of your choice,
certificates (for security), and disk space for storage,  can be found here:

  http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/entry.jspa?externalID=1827 

/gustav





From delam at zyterra.com  Fri Nov  7 13:34:20 2008
From: delam at zyterra.com (Debbie Elam)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 13:34:20 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Excel link weirdness
Message-ID: <20081107193416.KAHU375.atlmtaow01.cingularme.com@Inbox>

Thanks, I will gve that a try.

Debbie 

-----Original Message-----
From: Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 10:59 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Excel link weirdness

Hi Debbie

You may try this tip:

Create a select query which takes all the fields from the Excel table and converts them to strings using CStr() which - contrary to Str() - accepts a string as input and strips the leading space from positive numbers.

If your linked Excel table is called xlsImport, something like this:

SELECT
    CStr(xlsImport.ID) AS ID,
    CStr(xlsImport.PartNo) AS PartNo,
    CStr(xlsImport.Specification) AS Specification,
    etc. ...,
    CStr(xlsImport.Note) AS Note
FROM
    xlsImport;

Then, whenever you need the data from that sheet (or named space), pull them from the query and not from the linked table.

If a field can contain nulls, modify the expression for that field like this:
    CStr("" & xlsImport.Note) AS Note

or, if you prefer so:
    CStr(Nz(xlsImport.Note)) AS Note

/gustav


>>> delam at zyterra.com 05-11-2008 19:48 >>>
I am linking an excel spreadsheet into an access database, both 2002.  Some fields are not translating over to access at all and I cannot discover the reason.  For instance one field is client/matter number and the values often repeat.  The identical value will sometimes show up and other times be the #!NUM# I cannot interpret value.

Any thoughts of some gotchas to look for?  

Debbie 

Debbie Elam


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From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru  Fri Nov  7 14:13:49 2008
From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 23:13:49 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Amazon: SQL Server
In-Reply-To: <s9149d27.040@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <000c01c94115$59d32be0$6501a8c0@nant>

Hi Gustav,

I just wanted to note that MS should win this "battle", no doubts here.

I have to wait for the Azure SDK release/next project where it will be
needed - then I will learn/use it...

Thank you.

--
Shamil

P.S. Btw, MS uses "Azure" title for "cloud computing" platform - that's
funny isn't, it? - I mean their "cloud computing" promise to be free of any
clouds - Azure - the unclouded sky, transparent and roomy ad infinitum...

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:55 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Amazon: SQL Server

Hi Shamil

I know, but the difference is, that Amazon is on air and even can deliver a
SLA with guaranteed uptime.

MS has just reached the Community Technology Preview:

  http://www.microsoft.com/azure/default.mspx 

and the only indication of costs is "competitive".

Note that you can download from MS SDKs to "Explore and experiment with the
Azure SDKs locally":

  http://www.microsoft.com/azure/sdk.mspx 

If anyone checks this out, I'm sure feedback is welcomed!

/gustav


>>> shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru 07-11-2008 18:44 >>>
Hi Gustav,

But MS is expected to start playing dominating role on "Cloud Computing
front" rather soon:

"The IT industry is in the early stages of a major transition, one
comparable to the shift from mainframe to client/server. Microsoft will play
a major role over time because of its tremendous market footprint and
technical resources. There are many enterprises that consider themselves
Microsoft shops that have people that only know Microsoft tools and APIs.
Amazon and Google have been chipping away at these, but Microsoft is firmly
entrenched."

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Enterprise-Applications/Microsofts-Azure-Could-Ushe

r-in-The-Cloud-as-Commodity/ 

--
Shamil

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 2:01 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com; dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: [AccessD] Amazon: SQL Server

Hi all

While Microsoft is about to spin up Azure, Amazon is delivering EC2.
It is really simple to set up and - as far as I can judge - at very low
costs. 

The quickly read guide on how to create a remote SQL Server of your choice,
certificates (for security), and disk space for storage,  can be found here:

  http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/entry.jspa?externalID=1827 

/gustav



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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov  7 16:25:36 2008
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 23:25:36 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Amazon: SQL Server
Message-ID: <s914ce81.043@cactus.dk>

Hi Shamil

> .. transparent and roomy ad infinitum...

Doesn't that expression have a bit of logic for this topic?

/gustav


>>> shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru 07-11-2008 21:13 >>>
Hi Gustav,

I just wanted to note that MS should win this "battle", no doubts here.

I have to wait for the Azure SDK release/next project where it will be
needed - then I will learn/use it...

Thank you.

--
Shamil

P.S. Btw, MS uses "Azure" title for "cloud computing" platform - that's
funny isn't, it? - I mean their "cloud computing" promise to be free of any
clouds - Azure - the unclouded sky, transparent and roomy ad infinitum...

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:55 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Amazon: SQL Server

Hi Shamil

I know, but the difference is, that Amazon is on air and even can deliver a
SLA with guaranteed uptime.

MS has just reached the Community Technology Preview:

  http://www.microsoft.com/azure/default.mspx 

and the only indication of costs is "competitive".

Note that you can download from MS SDKs to "Explore and experiment with the
Azure SDKs locally":

  http://www.microsoft.com/azure/sdk.mspx 

If anyone checks this out, I'm sure feedback is welcomed!

/gustav


>>> shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru 07-11-2008 18:44 >>>
Hi Gustav,

But MS is expected to start playing dominating role on "Cloud Computing
front" rather soon:

"The IT industry is in the early stages of a major transition, one
comparable to the shift from mainframe to client/server. Microsoft will play
a major role over time because of its tremendous market footprint and
technical resources. There are many enterprises that consider themselves
Microsoft shops that have people that only know Microsoft tools and APIs.
Amazon and Google have been chipping away at these, but Microsoft is firmly
entrenched."

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Enterprise-Applications/Microsofts-Azure-Could-Ushe 

r-in-The-Cloud-as-Commodity/ 

--
Shamil

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 2:01 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com; dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: [AccessD] Amazon: SQL Server

Hi all

While Microsoft is about to spin up Azure, Amazon is delivering EC2.
It is really simple to set up and - as far as I can judge - at very low
costs. 

The quickly read guide on how to create a remote SQL Server of your choice,
certificates (for security), and disk space for storage,  can be found here:

  http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/entry.jspa?externalID=1827 

/gustav




From cjlabs at worldnet.att.net  Fri Nov  7 19:58:11 2008
From: cjlabs at worldnet.att.net (Carolyn Johnson)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:58:11 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] text box in page header
Message-ID: <5043D76D63A249E5942620741D65AB3D@XPcomputer>

Access2003, WinXP

I have a text box in the page header of a report that changes values as the 
records move from one group to another.   This text box on the first page of 
"group 2" still has the value for "group 1".   Is there a way to get the 
correct value for a new group level in this text box, or do I have to move 
text box to the group header section?

Thanks
Carolyn Johnson
St Louis, MO 



From ssharkins at gmail.com  Fri Nov  7 20:22:40 2008
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 21:22:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] text box in page header
References: <5043D76D63A249E5942620741D65AB3D@XPcomputer>
Message-ID: <164301c94148$e170da10$2f8601c7@SusanOne>

Does the header value come from a value in the group or are you just 
sequentially numbering them?

Susan H.


> Access2003, WinXP
>
> I have a text box in the page header of a report that changes values as 
> the
> records move from one group to another.   This text box on the first page 
> of
> "group 2" still has the value for "group 1".   Is there a way to get the
> correct value for a new group level in this text box, or do I have to move
> text box to the group header section?



From cjlabs at worldnet.att.net  Fri Nov  7 20:28:32 2008
From: cjlabs at worldnet.att.net (Carolyn Johnson)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 20:28:32 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] text box in page header
References: <5043D76D63A249E5942620741D65AB3D@XPcomputer>
	<164301c94148$e170da10$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <241DC7C14D694988BAF350AC5E81A2C3@XPcomputer>

It comes from a value in the group.

Carolyn Johnson



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] text box in page header


> Does the header value come from a value in the group or are you just
> sequentially numbering them?
>
> Susan H.
>
>
>> Access2003, WinXP
>>
>> I have a text box in the page header of a report that changes values as
>> the
>> records move from one group to another.   This text box on the first page
>> of
>> "group 2" still has the value for "group 1".   Is there a way to get the
>> correct value for a new group level in this text box, or do I have to 
>> move
>> text box to the group header section?
>
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Fri Nov  7 20:39:44 2008
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 21:39:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] text box in page header
References: <5043D76D63A249E5942620741D65AB3D@XPcomputer><164301c94148$e170da10$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
	<241DC7C14D694988BAF350AC5E81A2C3@XPcomputer>
Message-ID: <165b01c9414b$4398f4a0$2f8601c7@SusanOne>

Is there just one group per page -- you mentioned wanting it in the 
header -- do you mean the page header or the group header?

Susan H.


> It comes from a value in the group.
>
> Carolyn Johnson
>
>> Does the header value come from a value in the group or are you just
>> sequentially numbering them?
>>
>>> Access2003, WinXP
>>>
>>> I have a text box in the page header of a report that changes values as
>>> the
>>> records move from one group to another.   This text box on the first 
>>> page
>>> of
>>> "group 2" still has the value for "group 1".   Is there a way to get the
>>> correct value for a new group level in this text box, or do I have to
>>> move
>>> text box to the group header section?
>>
>> -- 
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>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
> -- 
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From cjlabs at worldnet.att.net  Fri Nov  7 20:49:21 2008
From: cjlabs at worldnet.att.net (Carolyn Johnson)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 20:49:21 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] text box in page header
References: <5043D76D63A249E5942620741D65AB3D@XPcomputer><164301c94148$e170da10$2f8601c7@SusanOne><241DC7C14D694988BAF350AC5E81A2C3@XPcomputer>
	<165b01c9414b$4398f4a0$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <D9ABE35ECDB54A63861B7451BA10A92B@XPcomputer>

The report is a catalog with 2 main groups of records - field name 
EventType.  Each group then has several subgroups.  I want the page header 
to show the value of EventType, along with the date.

There is an EventType footer with the force new page property set to After 
Section.

On the first page for the second EventType, the page header text box 
EventType still has the old value.   It's not until the EventType header 
section that the value changes.

If I put the controls I want to print on each page into the EventType header 
with RepeatSection = true, I get the desired effect --  the EventyType and 
Date print at the top of each page --  EXCEPT on the page where the new 
group starts, the text boxes print twice, the first time with the old values 
and the second time with the new group's values.


Thanks
Carolyn Johnson



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] text box in page header


> Is there just one group per page -- you mentioned wanting it in the
> header -- do you mean the page header or the group header?
>
> Susan H.
>
>
>> It comes from a value in the group.
>>
>> Carolyn Johnson
>>
>>> Does the header value come from a value in the group or are you just
>>> sequentially numbering them?
>>>
>>>> Access2003, WinXP
>>>>
>>>> I have a text box in the page header of a report that changes values as
>>>> the
>>>> records move from one group to another.   This text box on the first
>>>> page
>>>> of
>>>> "group 2" still has the value for "group 1".   Is there a way to get 
>>>> the
>>>> correct value for a new group level in this text box, or do I have to
>>>> move
>>>> text box to the group header section?
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> AccessD mailing list
>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>> -- 
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>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
> -- 
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From jimdettman at verizon.net  Sat Nov  8 14:00:22 2008
From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:00:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] text box in page header
In-Reply-To: <D9ABE35ECDB54A63861B7451BA10A92B@XPcomputer>
References: <5043D76D63A249E5942620741D65AB3D@XPcomputer><164301c94148$e170da10$2f8601c7@SusanOne><241DC7C14D694988BAF350AC5E81A2C3@XPcomputer>
	<165b01c9414b$4398f4a0$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
	<D9ABE35ECDB54A63861B7451BA10A92B@XPcomputer>
Message-ID: <F430F138BC524CC7BDAC69059D5CE1F2@XPS>

Carolyn,

  Try setting the force new page property to none for the Event ID footer
and Before section for the force new page property on the header.

  If that doesn't work, then you'll probably need to make it a two pass
report.  You'd pickup and store the info for each page on the first pass,
then push it to unbound text controls on the second to show the correct
info.

Jim.  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Johnson
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] text box in page header

The report is a catalog with 2 main groups of records - field name 
EventType.  Each group then has several subgroups.  I want the page header 
to show the value of EventType, along with the date.

There is an EventType footer with the force new page property set to After 
Section.

On the first page for the second EventType, the page header text box 
EventType still has the old value.   It's not until the EventType header 
section that the value changes.

If I put the controls I want to print on each page into the EventType header

with RepeatSection = true, I get the desired effect --  the EventyType and 
Date print at the top of each page --  EXCEPT on the page where the new 
group starts, the text boxes print twice, the first time with the old values

and the second time with the new group's values.


Thanks
Carolyn Johnson



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] text box in page header


> Is there just one group per page -- you mentioned wanting it in the
> header -- do you mean the page header or the group header?
>
> Susan H.
>
>
>> It comes from a value in the group.
>>
>> Carolyn Johnson
>>
>>> Does the header value come from a value in the group or are you just
>>> sequentially numbering them?
>>>
>>>> Access2003, WinXP
>>>>
>>>> I have a text box in the page header of a report that changes values as
>>>> the
>>>> records move from one group to another.   This text box on the first
>>>> page
>>>> of
>>>> "group 2" still has the value for "group 1".   Is there a way to get 
>>>> the
>>>> correct value for a new group level in this text box, or do I have to
>>>> move
>>>> text box to the group header section?
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> AccessD mailing list
>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>> -- 
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>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
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From cjlabs at worldnet.att.net  Sat Nov  8 17:17:46 2008
From: cjlabs at worldnet.att.net (Carolyn Johnson)
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 17:17:46 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] text box in page header
References: <5043D76D63A249E5942620741D65AB3D@XPcomputer><164301c94148$e170da10$2f8601c7@SusanOne><241DC7C14D694988BAF350AC5E81A2C3@XPcomputer><165b01c9414b$4398f4a0$2f8601c7@SusanOne><D9ABE35ECDB54A63861B7451BA10A92B@XPcomputer>
	<F430F138BC524CC7BDAC69059D5CE1F2@XPS>
Message-ID: <2C02FBA4CDD14ED3BA3A677D07F64418@XPcomputer>

Using the header did not work.

Can you explain how to do a two pass report?   That seems to be the solution 
but I've never done that before.

Thanks
Carolyn



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Dettman" <jimdettman at verizon.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] text box in page header


> Carolyn,
>
>  Try setting the force new page property to none for the Event ID footer
> and Before section for the force new page property on the header.
>
>  If that doesn't work, then you'll probably need to make it a two pass
> report.  You'd pickup and store the info for each page on the first pass,
> then push it to unbound text controls on the second to show the correct
> info.
>
> Jim.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Johnson
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:49 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] text box in page header
>
> The report is a catalog with 2 main groups of records - field name
> EventType.  Each group then has several subgroups.  I want the page header
> to show the value of EventType, along with the date.
>
> There is an EventType footer with the force new page property set to After
> Section.
>
> On the first page for the second EventType, the page header text box
> EventType still has the old value.   It's not until the EventType header
> section that the value changes.
>
> If I put the controls I want to print on each page into the EventType 
> header
>
> with RepeatSection = true, I get the desired effect --  the EventyType and
> Date print at the top of each page --  EXCEPT on the page where the new
> group starts, the text boxes print twice, the first time with the old 
> values
>
> and the second time with the new group's values.
>
>
> Thanks
> Carolyn Johnson
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 8:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] text box in page header
>
>
>> Is there just one group per page -- you mentioned wanting it in the
>> header -- do you mean the page header or the group header?
>>
>> Susan H.
>>
>>
>>> It comes from a value in the group.
>>>
>>> Carolyn Johnson
>>>
>>>> Does the header value come from a value in the group or are you just
>>>> sequentially numbering them?
>>>>
>>>>> Access2003, WinXP
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a text box in the page header of a report that changes values 
>>>>> as
>>>>> the
>>>>> records move from one group to another.   This text box on the first
>>>>> page
>>>>> of
>>>>> "group 2" still has the value for "group 1".   Is there a way to get
>>>>> the
>>>>> correct value for a new group level in this text box, or do I have to
>>>>> move
>>>>> text box to the group header section?
>>>>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Nov  9 01:37:08 2008
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 08:37:08 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] text box in page header
Message-ID: <s916a146.046@cactus.dk>

Hi Carolyn

Couldn't you make the page header textbox unbound and add code in the group header's OnFormat to set the text of the textbox?

/gustav




From pedro at plex.nl  Sun Nov  9 06:05:44 2008
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 13:05:44 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] import question
References: <200811070910.mA79A1YO012395@mailhostC.plex.net><aea6c4950811070546m7e85e068ha297b1427080b1bd@mail.gmail.com><002101c940f4$873587c0$410aa8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
	<aea6c4950811070914n4acfc64fh3a18108873fb1aba@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002701c94263$7e4e5c70$410aa8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Gary en Gustav,

thanks for your solution,
i will try to make this work for my situation.

Best Wishes

Pedro


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Kjos" <garykjos at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] import question


> Oh, I see now. I beleive you will need to write text reading code in
> order to do this. It's not that hard, I've done it, but not for years.
> One of our founding members has posted some VB code for doing text
> file I/O on his website
>
> http://seth.galitzer.net/node/11
>
> Look for "File I/O in VB"
>
> There are also outside utility programs that can do this type of
> thing. I used to use one many years ago but have forgotten the
> name...If it comes to me I will post again. I think writing a VB
> import routine where you read the data character by character is what
> you will need to do though.
>
> GK
>
> On 11/7/08, Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl> wrote:
>> Hello Gary, Susan and others,
>>
>> The suggestions that you presented are all known by me, that was a to 
>> easy
>> question.  I see that my explanation wasn't clear enough.
>> I need the line that is present before some lines of text with tabs, as 
>> the
>> first column.
>>
>> 31 maart 2008 13.00- 16.45 uur(zomertijd); 12 graden .......  tab     32
>> tab     13.47     tab    etc
>> 31 maart 2008 13.00- 16.45 uur(zomertijd); 12 graden .......  tab     33
>> tab     14.34     tab    etc
>> .......
>> .......
>> ......
>> ........
>> ........
>> .........
>> 5 april 2008 12.30-17.15 uur; 10 graden; half ...................... tab
>> 40     tab     12.45     tab     etc
>> 5 april 2008 12.30-17.15 uur; 10 graden; half ...................... tab
>> 41     tab     12.50     tab     etc
>> ...................
>> ...............etc
>>
>> I'll hope i am clear enough now
>>
>> Pedro
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gary Kjos" <garykjos at gmail.com>
>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 2:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] import question
>>
>>
>> > Hi Pedro,
>> >
>> > So you want to skip some of the text lines?  And then put everything
>> > else into a single column table?  Or I'm not understanding you
>> > correctly.  What I do on imports like this is to bring in all the
>> > records and then use a delete query to remove the stuff that you don't
>> > want after it's in there. I often will import into a temp table, do
>> > some cleanup using queries or manual record updating in table view and
>> > then use an append query from the temp table to the data table I
>> > actually want the data in after it's cleaned up.  This allows me to
>> > edit out column headings from reports etc. Sometimes it takes a number
>> > of "clean up" queries to eliminate all the odds and ends.
>> >
>> > Gary Kjos
>> >
>> > On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:10:01 (MET), pedro at plex.nl <pedro at plex.nl> 
>> > wrote:
>> >> Dear Group,
>> >>
>> >> i have a txt files like this.
>> >>
>> >>    31 maart 2008 13.00- 16.45 uur(zomertijd); 12 graden; half 
>> >> bewolkt(na
>> >> 15.00 uur geheel bew); W 1-2; lekker weer.
>> >> 32      13.49   13.3    228912-548226   m       48      p
>> >> 33      14.33   20.9    228801-548621   v       62      p; eerste
>> >> vrouwtje
>> >> 34      14.34   21.0    228809-548625   m       43      p(s)
>> >> 35      14.55           228824-548718   m       48      p
>> >> 36      15.20           229054-549070   m       49      p
>> >> 37      15.30           229092-549162   m       42      s
>> >> 38      15.45           228959-549173   m       43      p
>> >> 39      16.12           228858-548662   m       46      p
>> >>    5 april 2008 12.30-17.15 uur; 10 graden; half bewolkt; NW 2-3; 
>> >> lekker
>> >> weer. Al veel hommels; 14 levendb.hagedis en 4 zandhagedis; baltsende
>> >> haviken.
>> >> 40      12.45           229336-549376   m       52      p
>> >> 41      12.50           229334-549401   m       48      p(s)
>> >> 42      12.52           229333-549403   m       49      p
>> >> 43      12.55           229297-549382   m       41      p
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Is it possible to import this in a table, so that the first sentence 
>> >> (1
>> >> or 2 lines) are placed in the first column with each record
>> >> (which is:)
>> >> 32   tab   13.47   tab   etc
>> >> 33   tab   14.34   tab   etc
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> Pedro Janssen
>> >>
>> >>
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From iggy at nanaimo.ark.com  Sun Nov  9 09:17:13 2008
From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com (Tony Septav)
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 07:17:13 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Off Topic - Web Site Creation Software
Message-ID: <4916FEF9.4020607@nanaimo.ark.com>

Hey All
After many years  I now have some free time on my hands (thanks to the 
state of the economy) and I am thinking, it is about time I created my 
own website.  I thought I would ask your opinion on how I should 
approach this.
I am not thinking about any thing fancy at the moment,  just basically 
a  business profile and information page (and then learn as I go).  I am 
looking for an inexpensive piece of web site creation software to get me 
up and going.  I have checked the reviews and the problem I am having is 
one site will rave about a  particular software program and give it full 
stars and then on the next site they basically say it is a "piece of 
garbage".  So I am totally confused. I am hoping to get some advice from 
the group, on how I should be approaching this whole thing (totally a 
newbie on this one).  To avoid  wasting other's band space could you 
contact me off-line.
Thank you.

Tony Septav
MicroCoast Solutions
Nanaimo, BC
Canada



From gustav at cactus.dk  Sun Nov  9 12:43:48 2008
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 19:43:48 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Off Topic - Web Site Creation Software
Message-ID: <s9173d85.050@cactus.dk>

Hi Tony

One option - with a bit of challenge and perspective too - is the highly praised open-source Umbraco CMS system for Windows and ASP.NET. It runs off a SQL Server (or MySQL or VistaDb):

  http://www.umbraco.org 

/gustav

>>> iggy at nanaimo.ark.com 09-11-2008 16:17 >>>
Hey All
After many years  I now have some free time on my hands (thanks to the 
state of the economy) and I am thinking, it is about time I created my 
own website.  I thought I would ask your opinion on how I should 
approach this.
I am not thinking about any thing fancy at the moment,  just basically 
a  business profile and information page (and then learn as I go).  I am 
looking for an inexpensive piece of web site creation software to get me 
up and going.  I have checked the reviews and the problem I am having is 
one site will rave about a  particular software program and give it full 
stars and then on the next site they basically say it is a "piece of 
garbage".  So I am totally confused. I am hoping to get some advice from 
the group, on how I should be approaching this whole thing (totally a 
newbie on this one).  To avoid  wasting other's band space could you 
contact me off-line.
Thank you.

Tony Septav
MicroCoast Solutions
Nanaimo, BC
Canada




From dw-murphy at cox.net  Sun Nov  9 13:04:57 2008
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 11:04:57 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Off Topic - Web Site Creation Software
In-Reply-To: <4916FEF9.4020607@nanaimo.ark.com>
References: <4916FEF9.4020607@nanaimo.ark.com>
Message-ID: <001901c9429e$0e854210$0200a8c0@murphy3234aaf1>

For a simple html site down load Kompozer (Free!) http://kompozer.net/.  It
is a pretty nice WYSIWIG page development tool. There are lots of nice
looking site templates available if you are graphicly challenged like I am. 

Doug

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 7:17 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Off Topic - Web Site Creation Software

Hey All
After many years  I now have some free time on my hands (thanks to the state
of the economy) and I am thinking, it is about time I created my own
website.  I thought I would ask your opinion on how I should approach this.
I am not thinking about any thing fancy at the moment,  just basically a
business profile and information page (and then learn as I go).  I am
looking for an inexpensive piece of web site creation software to get me up
and going.  I have checked the reviews and the problem I am having is one
site will rave about a  particular software program and give it full stars
and then on the next site they basically say it is a "piece of garbage".  So
I am totally confused. I am hoping to get some advice from the group, on how
I should be approaching this whole thing (totally a newbie on this one).  To
avoid  wasting other's band space could you contact me off-line.
Thank you.

Tony Septav
MicroCoast Solutions
Nanaimo, BC
Canada

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sun Nov  9 22:22:59 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 20:22:59 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Off Topic - Web Site Creation Software
In-Reply-To: <4916FEF9.4020607@nanaimo.ark.com>
References: <4916FEF9.4020607@nanaimo.ark.com>
Message-ID: <9FEB3902C3FF47C0B7DEED456406EC2E@HAL9005>

Tony:

I did my own version first in Front Page.  I guess Expressions is the
software du jour.  Either are pretty easy to use.  The meat of a web site,
however, is the content.  Design, IMO, is secondary.  Has to be good but if
the content is not compelling no one acts upon reading your site.  

Lister Karen Rosenstiel did mine.  Check it out www.bchacc.com. She also did
my wife's. www.CollegeEssayServices.com.

So one of the easiest, fastest, and least expensive ways (assuming your time
is worth something) to create a web site is to create the content you want
in a Word doc, and hand it over to Karen.  


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 7:17 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Off Topic - Web Site Creation Software

Hey All
After many years  I now have some free time on my hands (thanks to the state
of the economy) and I am thinking, it is about time I created my own
website.  I thought I would ask your opinion on how I should approach this.
I am not thinking about any thing fancy at the moment,  just basically a
business profile and information page (and then learn as I go).  I am
looking for an inexpensive piece of web site creation software to get me up
and going.  I have checked the reviews and the problem I am having is one
site will rave about a  particular software program and give it full stars
and then on the next site they basically say it is a "piece of garbage".  So
I am totally confused. I am hoping to get some advice from the group, on how
I should be approaching this whole thing (totally a newbie on this one).  To
avoid  wasting other's band space could you contact me off-line.
Thank you.

Tony Septav
MicroCoast Solutions
Nanaimo, BC
Canada

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From eric.starkenburg at home.nl  Mon Nov 10 07:41:24 2008
From: eric.starkenburg at home.nl (eric.starkenburg at home.nl)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 14:41:24 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Off Topic - Web Site Creation Software
Message-ID: <7532793.1226324485477.JavaMail.root@webmail1.groni1>

Hi Tony,

since for me time is very prescious as well as money is I chose to use Coffeecup Visual Site Designer. http://www.coffeecup.com/designer/
This easy WYSIWYG program enables you to build a simple webpage in NO-time even within the trialperiod if you like:) It comes with built-in templates you can chose from and which are easy to change to your likings. Offers a great deal of simple features you'd want minimal.
With some extra features from the internet I was able to make a pretty functional & interactive webpage hardly costing any money and effort. If you're not into sophisticated webdesigns and databases etc. I'd recommend this to anyone wanting a webpage yet not having much experience and not so eager to become independant of others or spend a lot of money.


Regards,
Eric Starkenburg

---- Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> schrijft: 
> Tony:
> 
> I did my own version first in Front Page.  I guess Expressions is the
> software du jour.  Either are pretty easy to use.  The meat of a web site,
> however, is the content.  Design, IMO, is secondary.  Has to be good but if
> the content is not compelling no one acts upon reading your site.  
> 
> Lister Karen Rosenstiel did mine.  Check it out www.bchacc.com. She also did
> my wife's. www.CollegeEssayServices.com.
> 
> So one of the easiest, fastest, and least expensive ways (assuming your time
> is worth something) to create a web site is to create the content you want
> in a Word doc, and hand it over to Karen.  
> 
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.e-z-mrp.com
> www.bchacc.com
>  
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav
> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 7:17 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Off Topic - Web Site Creation Software
> 
> Hey All
> After many years  I now have some free time on my hands (thanks to the state
> of the economy) and I am thinking, it is about time I created my own
> website.  I thought I would ask your opinion on how I should approach this.
> I am not thinking about any thing fancy at the moment,  just basically a
> business profile and information page (and then learn as I go).  I am
> looking for an inexpensive piece of web site creation software to get me up
> and going.  I have checked the reviews and the problem I am having is one
> site will rave about a  particular software program and give it full stars
> and then on the next site they basically say it is a "piece of garbage".  So
> I am totally confused. I am hoping to get some advice from the group, on how
> I should be approaching this whole thing (totally a newbie on this one).  To
> avoid  wasting other's band space could you contact me off-line.
> Thank you.
> 
> Tony Septav
> MicroCoast Solutions
> Nanaimo, BC
> Canada
> 
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Nov 10 07:56:44 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 05:56:44 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Text to Number Conversion Problem
Message-ID: <A2E2D823A322477CB1569E404FA6DA15@HAL9005>

Dear List:

Legacy system.  The previous designed defined a numeric field as text.
Don't know why. BUT...

When the field contains a comma it doesn't convert right when converted to
numeric (for use on a report in this case).

IOW, the user enter 39000 and everything's OK.  The user enters 39,000 and
the report says 39. Drops everything after the comma.

The right solution, of course, is to convert the back end to numeric.  And I
may urge him to do this.  Have to convert the data as well making sure that
39,000 converts to 39000 and not 39.

Nevertheless, short of doing the 'right' thing, is there a way to get the
text 39,000 to convert to the numeric 39000 instead of 39?

MTIA



 	
	
 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 

www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 

 

 




From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Nov 10 08:05:32 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 06:05:32 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Text to Number Conversion Problem
In-Reply-To: <A2E2D823A322477CB1569E404FA6DA15@HAL9005>
References: <A2E2D823A322477CB1569E404FA6DA15@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <7AA05F7972534920A97D9723E77F09A9@HAL9005>

Never mind.  Figured it out.  Cdbl will do it. 


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 5:57 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Text to Number Conversion Problem

Dear List:

Legacy system.  The previous designed defined a numeric field as text.
Don't know why. BUT...

When the field contains a comma it doesn't convert right when converted to
numeric (for use on a report in this case).

IOW, the user enter 39000 and everything's OK.  The user enters 39,000 and
the report says 39. Drops everything after the comma.

The right solution, of course, is to convert the back end to numeric.  And I
may urge him to do this.  Have to convert the data as well making sure that
39,000 converts to 39000 and not 39.

Nevertheless, short of doing the 'right' thing, is there a way to get the
text 39,000 to convert to the numeric 39000 instead of 39?

MTIA



 	
	
 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 

www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 

 

 


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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Nov 10 08:05:58 2008
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:05:58 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Text to Number Conversion Problem
Message-ID: <s9184def.074@cactus.dk>

Hi Rocky

Wouldn't CLng() convert that correctly?
Or use Replace to strip the comma.

/gustav

>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 10-11-2008 14:56 >>>
Dear List:

Legacy system.  The previous designed defined a numeric field as text.
Don't know why. BUT...

When the field contains a comma it doesn't convert right when converted to
numeric (for use on a report in this case).

IOW, the user enter 39000 and everything's OK.  The user enters 39,000 and
the report says 39. Drops everything after the comma.

The right solution, of course, is to convert the back end to numeric.  And I
may urge him to do this.  Have to convert the data as well making sure that
39,000 converts to 39000 and not 39.

Nevertheless, short of doing the 'right' thing, is there a way to get the
text 39,000 to convert to the numeric 39000 instead of 39?

MTIA





From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Nov 10 08:31:35 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 06:31:35 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Text to Number Conversion Problem
In-Reply-To: <s9184def.074@cactus.dk>
References: <s9184def.074@cactus.dk>
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Gustav:

Well, I would need Cdbl because there could be a fractional amount in that
field.  And actually, even though it works in the test query I made it
doesn't work in the report's query.  So I made a backup of the beck end,
converted the field to double, and the fields with the comma converted
correctly.  But the query for the report still doesn't work after the
conversion.  I get a data type mismatch. Any clue as to why?

TIA 


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:06 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Text to Number Conversion Problem

Hi Rocky

Wouldn't CLng() convert that correctly?
Or use Replace to strip the comma.

/gustav

>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 10-11-2008 14:56 >>>
Dear List:

Legacy system.  The previous designed defined a numeric field as text.
Don't know why. BUT...

When the field contains a comma it doesn't convert right when converted to
numeric (for use on a report in this case).

IOW, the user enter 39000 and everything's OK.  The user enters 39,000 and
the report says 39. Drops everything after the comma.

The right solution, of course, is to convert the back end to numeric.  And I
may urge him to do this.  Have to convert the data as well making sure that
39,000 converts to 39000 and not 39.

Nevertheless, short of doing the 'right' thing, is there a way to get the
text 39,000 to convert to the numeric 39000 instead of 39?

MTIA



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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Nov 10 08:38:18 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 06:38:18 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Text to Number Conversion Problem
In-Reply-To: <3B400F0767F4405AA0FA0BF6AC1B42D1@HAL9005>
References: <s9184def.074@cactus.dk> <3B400F0767F4405AA0FA0BF6AC1B42D1@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <8A155C5E5AEC4D838C4678E57C8C34AF@HAL9005>

Gustav:

Here's the item in the query that's barfing:

Incoming: Val(nz([ExpectedAvailableAmt]))-nz([orgamt])

When org amount is zero and ExpectedAvailableAmt = 39,000 it will show 39 on
the report.

I tried the Replace function but got a data type mismatch error:

Incoming: Val(Replace(",","",([ExpectedAvailableAmt])))-nz([orgamt])

BTW orgamt is a numeric field but can be null.  Clues?

TIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Text to Number Conversion Problem

Gustav:

Well, I would need Cdbl because there could be a fractional amount in that
field.  And actually, even though it works in the test query I made it
doesn't work in the report's query.  So I made a backup of the beck end,
converted the field to double, and the fields with the comma converted
correctly.  But the query for the report still doesn't work after the
conversion.  I get a data type mismatch. Any clue as to why?

TIA 


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:06 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Text to Number Conversion Problem

Hi Rocky

Wouldn't CLng() convert that correctly?
Or use Replace to strip the comma.

/gustav

>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 10-11-2008 14:56 >>>
Dear List:

Legacy system.  The previous designed defined a numeric field as text.
Don't know why. BUT...

When the field contains a comma it doesn't convert right when converted to
numeric (for use on a report in this case).

IOW, the user enter 39000 and everything's OK.  The user enters 39,000 and
the report says 39. Drops everything after the comma.

The right solution, of course, is to convert the back end to numeric.  And I
may urge him to do this.  Have to convert the data as well making sure that
39,000 converts to 39000 and not 39.

Nevertheless, short of doing the 'right' thing, is there a way to get the
text 39,000 to convert to the numeric 39000 instead of 39?

MTIA



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From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Mon Nov 10 08:39:29 2008
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 14:39:29 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Text to Number Conversion Problem
In-Reply-To: <A2E2D823A322477CB1569E404FA6DA15@HAL9005>
References: <A2E2D823A322477CB1569E404FA6DA15@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <cda8f54e0811100639k32cd8d71re25a254ae12577e7@mail.gmail.com>

You could just do a replace...

myStr = replace(myStr,",","")

(That is a comma withing quotes to search for and a nothing withing quotes
to replace it with - if that makes sense).

I would say that numeric fields are best definded as text when the intention
is never to do calculations on them.  If you are going to do a calculation,
then define them as numeric.

Max


On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software <
rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:

> Dear List:
>
> Legacy system.  The previous designed defined a numeric field as text.
> Don't know why. BUT...
>
> When the field contains a comma it doesn't convert right when converted to
> numeric (for use on a report in this case).
>
> IOW, the user enter 39000 and everything's OK.  The user enters 39,000 and
> the report says 39. Drops everything after the comma.
>
> The right solution, of course, is to convert the back end to numeric.  And
> I
> may urge him to do this.  Have to convert the data as well making sure that
> 39,000 converts to 39000 and not 39.
>
> Nevertheless, short of doing the 'right' thing, is there a way to get the
> text 39,000 to convert to the numeric 39000 instead of 39?
>
> MTIA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Rocky Smolin
>
> Beach Access Software
>
> 858-259-4334
>
> www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/>
>
> www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Nov 10 08:48:50 2008
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:48:50 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Text to Number Conversion Problem
Message-ID: <s9185805.078@cactus.dk>

Hi Rocky

I would try with:

Incoming: CDbl(Nz([ExpectedAvailableAmt],"0"))-Nz([orgamt],0)

/gustav

>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 10-11-2008 15:38 >>>
Gustav:

Here's the item in the query that's barfing:

Incoming: Val(nz([ExpectedAvailableAmt]))-nz([orgamt])

When org amount is zero and ExpectedAvailableAmt = 39,000 it will show 39 on
the report.

I tried the Replace function but got a data type mismatch error:

Incoming: Val(Replace(",","",([ExpectedAvailableAmt])))-nz([orgamt])

BTW orgamt is a numeric field but can be null.  Clues?

TIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com 
www.bchacc.com 
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Text to Number Conversion Problem

Gustav:

Well, I would need Cdbl because there could be a fractional amount in that
field.  And actually, even though it works in the test query I made it
doesn't work in the report's query.  So I made a backup of the beck end,
converted the field to double, and the fields with the comma converted
correctly.  But the query for the report still doesn't work after the
conversion.  I get a data type mismatch. Any clue as to why?

TIA 


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com 
www.bchacc.com 
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:06 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Text to Number Conversion Problem

Hi Rocky

Wouldn't CLng() convert that correctly?
Or use Replace to strip the comma.

/gustav

>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 10-11-2008 14:56 >>>
Dear List:

Legacy system.  The previous designed defined a numeric field as text.
Don't know why. BUT...

When the field contains a comma it doesn't convert right when converted to
numeric (for use on a report in this case).

IOW, the user enter 39000 and everything's OK.  The user enters 39,000 and
the report says 39. Drops everything after the comma.

The right solution, of course, is to convert the back end to numeric.  And I
may urge him to do this.  Have to convert the data as well making sure that
39,000 converts to 39000 and not 39.

Nevertheless, short of doing the 'right' thing, is there a way to get the
text 39,000 to convert to the numeric 39000 instead of 39?

MTIA




From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Nov 10 08:51:33 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 06:51:33 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Text to Number Conversion Problem
In-Reply-To: <cda8f54e0811100639k32cd8d71re25a254ae12577e7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <A2E2D823A322477CB1569E404FA6DA15@HAL9005>
	<cda8f54e0811100639k32cd8d71re25a254ae12577e7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6A6DB175CB4642CEA72950E72617CC6F@HAL9005>

Max:

I tried the Replace but I had the arguments scrambled.  Working now.
Thanks.

And yes, you're right - the field should be converted to numeric.  Legacy
systems (sigh)...


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:39 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Text to Number Conversion Problem

You could just do a replace...

myStr = replace(myStr,",","")

(That is a comma withing quotes to search for and a nothing withing quotes
to replace it with - if that makes sense).

I would say that numeric fields are best definded as text when the intention
is never to do calculations on them.  If you are going to do a calculation,
then define them as numeric.

Max


On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software <
rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:

> Dear List:
>
> Legacy system.  The previous designed defined a numeric field as text.
> Don't know why. BUT...
>
> When the field contains a comma it doesn't convert right when 
> converted to numeric (for use on a report in this case).
>
> IOW, the user enter 39000 and everything's OK.  The user enters 39,000 
> and the report says 39. Drops everything after the comma.
>
> The right solution, of course, is to convert the back end to numeric.  
> And I may urge him to do this.  Have to convert the data as well 
> making sure that 39,000 converts to 39000 and not 39.
>
> Nevertheless, short of doing the 'right' thing, is there a way to get 
> the text 39,000 to convert to the numeric 39000 instead of 39?
>
> MTIA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Rocky Smolin
>
> Beach Access Software
>
> 858-259-4334
>
> www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/>
>
> www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/>
>
>
>
>
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Nov 10 08:52:18 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 06:52:18 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Text to Number Conversion Problem
In-Reply-To: <s9185805.078@cactus.dk>
References: <s9185805.078@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <DB74A0A9D8374BBE8D4FBDC8DDA367A8@HAL9005>

Gustav:

Actually your first suggestion of using Replace worked when I got the
arguments in the right order.

Thanks and regards,


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:49 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Text to Number Conversion Problem

Hi Rocky

I would try with:

Incoming: CDbl(Nz([ExpectedAvailableAmt],"0"))-Nz([orgamt],0)

/gustav

>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 10-11-2008 15:38 >>>
Gustav:

Here's the item in the query that's barfing:

Incoming: Val(nz([ExpectedAvailableAmt]))-nz([orgamt])

When org amount is zero and ExpectedAvailableAmt = 39,000 it will show 39 on
the report.

I tried the Replace function but got a data type mismatch error:

Incoming: Val(Replace(",","",([ExpectedAvailableAmt])))-nz([orgamt])

BTW orgamt is a numeric field but can be null.  Clues?

TIA

Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com 
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Text to Number Conversion Problem

Gustav:

Well, I would need Cdbl because there could be a fractional amount in that
field.  And actually, even though it works in the test query I made it
doesn't work in the report's query.  So I made a backup of the beck end,
converted the field to double, and the fields with the comma converted
correctly.  But the query for the report still doesn't work after the
conversion.  I get a data type mismatch. Any clue as to why?

TIA 


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com 
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:06 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Text to Number Conversion Problem

Hi Rocky

Wouldn't CLng() convert that correctly?
Or use Replace to strip the comma.

/gustav

>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 10-11-2008 14:56 >>>
Dear List:

Legacy system.  The previous designed defined a numeric field as text.
Don't know why. BUT...

When the field contains a comma it doesn't convert right when converted to
numeric (for use on a report in this case).

IOW, the user enter 39000 and everything's OK.  The user enters 39,000 and
the report says 39. Drops everything after the comma.

The right solution, of course, is to convert the back end to numeric.  And I
may urge him to do this.  Have to convert the data as well making sure that
39,000 converts to 39000 and not 39.

Nevertheless, short of doing the 'right' thing, is there a way to get the
text 39,000 to convert to the numeric 39000 instead of 39?

MTIA


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From jimdettman at verizon.net  Mon Nov 10 09:35:48 2008
From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:35:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] text box in page header
In-Reply-To: <2C02FBA4CDD14ED3BA3A677D07F64418@XPcomputer>
References: <5043D76D63A249E5942620741D65AB3D@XPcomputer><164301c94148$e170da10$2f8601c7@SusanOne><241DC7C14D694988BAF350AC5E81A2C3@XPcomputer><165b01c9414b$4398f4a0$2f8601c7@SusanOne><D9ABE35ECDB54A63861B7451BA10A92B@XPcomputer>
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	<2C02FBA4CDD14ED3BA3A677D07F64418@XPcomputer>
Message-ID: <A0FFC6C84DE0450D88C05E793A59C6EF@XPS>

Carolyn,

  "Two-pass" reports are done simply by adding a text control (hidden or
not) that references the pages property.

  When you do this, you force Access to do two passes on a report.  The
first is a "dry run" through the report so it can figure out what the last
page will be.  The second is when it actually prints the report.

  It's on this first pass that you can store information in a table or
memory and then do all sorts of things on the second pass.  In your case,
I'd make a table in the report's OnOpen event, which you can use to record
the EventType and the page it first appears on.

  You'd do that with code OnFormat event of the EventType header section.
You need to use OnFormat as OnPrint events are not fired on the first pass.
You can tell when your in the first pass of a report by checking pages,
which will be 0.

  Then in the second pass in the Page header OnFormat or OnPrint event, you
can read the table to see what appears on the current page.

  You can do all sort of things with this technique; reset page numbers over
groups, add a to/from for each page in the header or footer of the page
(telephone book style), build a table of contents or an index for the
report, tell what is coming on the next page or appeared on a previous page,
etc.

  Here's a link to a MSKB article which shows the basic technique:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/131937

  If you have any questions holler.

Jim.


    

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Johnson
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 6:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] text box in page header

Using the header did not work.

Can you explain how to do a two pass report?   That seems to be the solution

but I've never done that before.

Thanks
Carolyn



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From: "Jim Dettman" <jimdettman at verizon.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] text box in page header


> Carolyn,
>
>  Try setting the force new page property to none for the Event ID footer
> and Before section for the force new page property on the header.
>
>  If that doesn't work, then you'll probably need to make it a two pass
> report.  You'd pickup and store the info for each page on the first pass,
> then push it to unbound text controls on the second to show the correct
> info.
>
> Jim.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Johnson
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:49 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] text box in page header
>
> The report is a catalog with 2 main groups of records - field name
> EventType.  Each group then has several subgroups.  I want the page header
> to show the value of EventType, along with the date.
>
> There is an EventType footer with the force new page property set to After
> Section.
>
> On the first page for the second EventType, the page header text box
> EventType still has the old value.   It's not until the EventType header
> section that the value changes.
>
> If I put the controls I want to print on each page into the EventType 
> header
>
> with RepeatSection = true, I get the desired effect --  the EventyType and
> Date print at the top of each page --  EXCEPT on the page where the new
> group starts, the text boxes print twice, the first time with the old 
> values
>
> and the second time with the new group's values.
>
>
> Thanks
> Carolyn Johnson
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 8:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] text box in page header
>
>
>> Is there just one group per page -- you mentioned wanting it in the
>> header -- do you mean the page header or the group header?
>>
>> Susan H.
>>
>>
>>> It comes from a value in the group.
>>>
>>> Carolyn Johnson
>>>
>>>> Does the header value come from a value in the group or are you just
>>>> sequentially numbering them?
>>>>
>>>>> Access2003, WinXP
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a text box in the page header of a report that changes values 
>>>>> as
>>>>> the
>>>>> records move from one group to another.   This text box on the first
>>>>> page
>>>>> of
>>>>> "group 2" still has the value for "group 1".   Is there a way to get
>>>>> the
>>>>> correct value for a new group level in this text box, or do I have to
>>>>> move
>>>>> text box to the group header section?
>>>>
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Nov 10 10:22:20 2008
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:22:20 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] text box in page header
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References: <5043D76D63A249E5942620741D65AB3D@XPcomputer><164301c94148$e170da10$2f8601c7@SusanOne><241DC7C14D694988BAF350AC5E81A2C3@XPcomputer><165b01c9414b$4398f4a0$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
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There used to be an example of that kind of report in one of the sample
databases from MS.  If I remember correctly, you used the page footer to
set the page header values on the next page using unbound textboxes in
the page header and bound hidden textboxes in the footer.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Johnson
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 6:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] text box in page header

The report is a catalog with 2 main groups of records - field name
EventType.  Each group then has several subgroups.  I want the page
header to show the value of EventType, along with the date.

There is an EventType footer with the force new page property set to
After Section.

On the first page for the second EventType, the page header text box 
EventType still has the old value.   It's not until the EventType header

section that the value changes.

If I put the controls I want to print on each page into the EventType
header with RepeatSection = true, I get the desired effect --  the
EventyType and Date print at the top of each page --  EXCEPT on the page
where the new group starts, the text boxes print twice, the first time
with the old values and the second time with the new group's values.


Thanks
Carolyn Johnson



----- Original Message -----
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] text box in page header


> Is there just one group per page -- you mentioned wanting it in the
> header -- do you mean the page header or the group header?
>
> Susan H.
>
>
>> It comes from a value in the group.
>>
>> Carolyn Johnson
>>
>>> Does the header value come from a value in the group or are you just
>>> sequentially numbering them?
>>>
>>>> Access2003, WinXP
>>>>
>>>> I have a text box in the page header of a report that changes
values as
>>>> the
>>>> records move from one group to another.   This text box on the
first
>>>> page
>>>> of
>>>> "group 2" still has the value for "group 1".   Is there a way to
get 
>>>> the
>>>> correct value for a new group level in this text box, or do I have
to
>>>> move
>>>> text box to the group header section?
>>>
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Mon Nov 10 10:25:38 2008
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:25:38 +0000
Subject: [AccessD]  Record Locked
In-Reply-To: <A0FFC6C84DE0450D88C05E793A59C6EF@XPS>
References: <5043D76D63A249E5942620741D65AB3D@XPcomputer><164301c94148$e170da10$2f8601c7@SusanOne><241DC7C14D694988BAF350AC5E81A2C3@XPcomputer><165b01c9414b$4398f4a0$2f8601c7@SusanOne><D9ABE35ECDB54A63861B7451BA10A92B@XPcomputer>
	<F430F138BC524CC7BDAC69059D5CE1F2@XPS>
	<2C02FBA4CDD14ED3BA3A677D07F64418@XPcomputer> 
	<A0FFC6C84DE0450D88C05E793A59C6EF@XPS>
Message-ID: <BAY127-W239A6F9513740D81EFD947D21A0@phx.gbl>


Hello All,
 
I do not want to start the bound/unbound thing...but I have a situation.
 
A2002 Front end/back end...it is a bound continuous form.  users are getting "record locked" when trying to update a record.  On the same machine I can close the form and open the table...I can edit that record.  I am in the process of decommissioning this database...I don't want to re-write it...just to get rid of it...but I need to do something in the interim.  Any suggestions on things to check that may cause excessive locking?
 
Thanks,
 
Mark A. Matte
 
 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Nov 10 10:33:33 2008
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:33:33 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Record Locked
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-W239A6F9513740D81EFD947D21A0@phx.gbl>
References: <5043D76D63A249E5942620741D65AB3D@XPcomputer><164301c94148$e170da10$2f8601c7@SusanOne><241DC7C14D694988BAF350AC5E81A2C3@XPcomputer><165b01c9414b$4398f4a0$2f8601c7@SusanOne><D9ABE35ECDB54A63861B7451BA10A92B@XPcomputer><F430F138BC524CC7BDAC69059D5CE1F2@XPS><2C02FBA4CDD14ED3BA3A677D07F64418@XPcomputer>
	<A0FFC6C84DE0450D88C05E793A59C6EF@XPS>
	<BAY127-W239A6F9513740D81EFD947D21A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEAB12508@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

Is the message they're getting actually "record locked" or something
that boils down to that?  I take it that this behavior wasn't seen in
the past?  They could be getting the lock from the workgroup file, but
that usually throws an "opened exclusively" message.  

If you're hitting true locking errors, check to see what you have your
locking set to, page locking or record locking.  Page locking can cause
this, especially if the form is based on a multi-table query, but even
without that if the page size spans multiple records.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 8:26 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Record Locked


Hello All,
 
I do not want to start the bound/unbound thing...but I have a situation.
 
A2002 Front end/back end...it is a bound continuous form.  users are
getting "record locked" when trying to update a record.  On the same
machine I can close the form and open the table...I can edit that
record.  I am in the process of decommissioning this database...I don't
want to re-write it...just to get rid of it...but I need to do something
in the interim.  Any suggestions on things to check that may cause
excessive locking?
 
Thanks,
 
Mark A. Matte
 
 
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Mon Nov 10 11:09:54 2008
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:09:54 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Record Locked
In-Reply-To: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEAB12508@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>
References: <5043D76D63A249E5942620741D65AB3D@XPcomputer><164301c94148$e170da10$2f8601c7@SusanOne><241DC7C14D694988BAF350AC5E81A2C3@XPcomputer><165b01c9414b$4398f4a0$2f8601c7@SusanOne><D9ABE35ECDB54A63861B7451BA10A92B@XPcomputer><F430F138BC524CC7BDAC69059D5CE1F2@XPS><2C02FBA4CDD14ED3BA3A677D07F64418@XPcomputer>
	<A0FFC6C84DE0450D88C05E793A59C6EF@XPS>
	<BAY127-W239A6F9513740D81EFD947D21A0@phx.gbl> 
	<F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEAB12508@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <BAY127-W234BAC924F431D07F4E827D21A0@phx.gbl>


Charlotte,
 
Yes...it actually says "Locked"...something like "Could Not Update;Currently Locked"...and it is a relatively new occurance.
 
Under advanced I have Default record locking= no locks...and "open databases using record level locking" is checked.
 
Also, there are no memo fields...and I have reduced the number of fields that are indexed due to an article I read implying that regardless of what level you have locking set to...if you update an indexed field...it uses page locking?
 
Thanks,
 
Mark A. Matte
 
P.S...AccessD(databaseadvisors) is the only list/group I belong to...but I do search for answers elsewhere...today I found some lists that some of their 'frequent users' are just downright mean to the less advanced people asking questions.  Thanks to All for making this group what it is!> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:33:33 -0800> From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Record Locked> > Is the message they're getting actually "record locked" or something> that boils down to that? I take it that this behavior wasn't seen in> the past? They could be getting the lock from the workgroup file, but> that usually throws an "opened exclusively" message. > > If you're hitting true locking errors, check to see what you have your> locking set to, page locking or record locking. Page locking can cause> this, especially if the form is based on a multi-table query, but even> without that if the page size spans multiple records.> > Charlotte Foust> > -----Original Message-----> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 8:26 AM> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: [AccessD] Record Locked> > > Hello All,> > I do not want to start the bound/unbound thing...but I have a situation.> > A2002 Front end/back end...it is a bound continuous form. users are> getting "record locked" when trying to update a record. On the same> machine I can close the form and open the table...I can edit that> record. I am in the process of decommissioning this database...I don't> want to re-write it...just to get rid of it...but I need to do something> in the interim. Any suggestions on things to check that may cause> excessive locking?> > Thanks,> > Mark A. Matte> > > _________________________________________________________________> Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows> Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119462413/direct/01/> --> AccessD mailing list> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com> > -- > AccessD mailing list> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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From cjlabs at worldnet.att.net  Mon Nov 10 13:33:37 2008
From: cjlabs at worldnet.att.net (Carolyn Johnson)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:33:37 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] text box in page header
References: <5043D76D63A249E5942620741D65AB3D@XPcomputer><164301c94148$e170da10$2f8601c7@SusanOne><241DC7C14D694988BAF350AC5E81A2C3@XPcomputer><165b01c9414b$4398f4a0$2f8601c7@SusanOne><D9ABE35ECDB54A63861B7451BA10A92B@XPcomputer><F430F138BC524CC7BDAC69059D5CE1F2@XPS><2C02FBA4CDD14ED3BA3A677D07F64418@XPcomputer>
	<A0FFC6C84DE0450D88C05E793A59C6EF@XPS>
Message-ID: <C0BC03013208421B9E81EC77BDE3939D@XPcomputer>

Thanks to everyone who helped with this problem -- making use of the first 
pass worked.


Carolyn Johnson




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Dettman" <jimdettman at verizon.net>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] text box in page header


> Carolyn,
>
>  "Two-pass" reports are done simply by adding a text control (hidden or
> not) that references the pages property.
>
>  When you do this, you force Access to do two passes on a report.  The
> first is a "dry run" through the report so it can figure out what the last
> page will be.  The second is when it actually prints the report.
>
>  It's on this first pass that you can store information in a table or
> memory and then do all sorts of things on the second pass.  In your case,
> I'd make a table in the report's OnOpen event, which you can use to record
> the EventType and the page it first appears on.
>
>  You'd do that with code OnFormat event of the EventType header section.
> You need to use OnFormat as OnPrint events are not fired on the first 
> pass.
> You can tell when your in the first pass of a report by checking pages,
> which will be 0.
>
>  Then in the second pass in the Page header OnFormat or OnPrint event, you
> can read the table to see what appears on the current page.
>
>  You can do all sort of things with this technique; reset page numbers 
> over
> groups, add a to/from for each page in the header or footer of the page
> (telephone book style), build a table of contents or an index for the
> report, tell what is coming on the next page or appeared on a previous 
> page,
> etc.
>
>  Here's a link to a MSKB article which shows the basic technique:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/131937
>
>  If you have any questions holler.
>
> Jim.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Johnson
> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 6:18 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] text box in page header
>
> Using the header did not work.
>
> Can you explain how to do a two pass report?   That seems to be the 
> solution
>
> but I've never done that before.
>
> Thanks
> Carolyn
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Dettman" <jimdettman at verizon.net>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 2:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] text box in page header
>
>
>> Carolyn,
>>
>>  Try setting the force new page property to none for the Event ID footer
>> and Before section for the force new page property on the header.
>>
>>  If that doesn't work, then you'll probably need to make it a two pass
>> report.  You'd pickup and store the info for each page on the first pass,
>> then push it to unbound text controls on the second to show the correct
>> info.
>>
>> Jim.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn 
>> Johnson
>> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:49 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] text box in page header
>>
>> The report is a catalog with 2 main groups of records - field name
>> EventType.  Each group then has several subgroups.  I want the page 
>> header
>> to show the value of EventType, along with the date.
>>
>> There is an EventType footer with the force new page property set to 
>> After
>> Section.
>>
>> On the first page for the second EventType, the page header text box
>> EventType still has the old value.   It's not until the EventType header
>> section that the value changes.
>>
>> If I put the controls I want to print on each page into the EventType
>> header
>>
>> with RepeatSection = true, I get the desired effect --  the EventyType 
>> and
>> Date print at the top of each page --  EXCEPT on the page where the new
>> group starts, the text boxes print twice, the first time with the old
>> values
>>
>> and the second time with the new group's values.
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Carolyn Johnson
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at gmail.com>
>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 8:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] text box in page header
>>
>>
>>> Is there just one group per page -- you mentioned wanting it in the
>>> header -- do you mean the page header or the group header?
>>>
>>> Susan H.
>>>
>>>
>>>> It comes from a value in the group.
>>>>
>>>> Carolyn Johnson
>>>>
>>>>> Does the header value come from a value in the group or are you just
>>>>> sequentially numbering them?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Access2003, WinXP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a text box in the page header of a report that changes values
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> records move from one group to another.   This text box on the first
>>>>>> page
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> "group 2" still has the value for "group 1".   Is there a way to get
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> correct value for a new group level in this text box, or do I have to
>>>>>> move
>>>>>> text box to the group header section?
>>>>>
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From edzedz at comcast.net  Mon Nov 10 13:51:29 2008
From: edzedz at comcast.net (Edward S Zuris)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:51:29 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] How to use Microsoft's  calendar control in acces
Message-ID: <001d01c9436d$b9f817b0$65dea8c0@dudley1>

 Help. . .

 How do you add the calendar control (mscal.ocx) to a form for access 2000 ?

 Using  > access tools > activeX controls and it seems to reg ok.

 Then to > access tools >  custom  > Commands tab > calendar control 9.0

 or Toolbox > customize >custom  > Commands tab > calendar control 9.0

 I can't draw the calendar control on the form.

 What to do ?


From edzedz at comcast.net  Mon Nov 10 14:08:07 2008
From: edzedz at comcast.net (Edward S Zuris)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:08:07 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] How to use Microsoft's  calendar control in access
In-Reply-To: <001d01c9436d$b9f817b0$65dea8c0@dudley1>
Message-ID: <002201c94370$0cfe4b80$65dea8c0@dudley1>


 I think I have learned how load the calendar control

 Ms-Access > tools >  custom  > Commands tab > calendar control 9.0

 Then dragged the control over to the tool box and it seems to work.

 Now how to use it.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Edward S Zuris
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 12:51 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] How to use Microsoft's calendar control in acces


 Help. . .

 How do you add the calendar control (mscal.ocx) to a form for access 2000 ?

 Using  > access tools > activeX controls and it seems to reg ok.

 Then to > access tools >  custom  > Commands tab > calendar control 9.0

 or Toolbox > customize >custom  > Commands tab > calendar control 9.0

 I can't draw the calendar control on the form.

 What to do ?
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Nov 10 14:35:19 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:35:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Second pair of eyes
Message-ID: <29f585dd0811101235m5844131eu8fe6090a7579357e@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I have one and possibly two outstanding issues with a simple Access app that
I wrote, and cannot seem to locate the problem. It should have been a
brain-dead-simple app to deliver, but I can't quite deliver the baby. I am
in the throes of some medical issues that I fear are non-trivial, and I just
don't have the energy to continue to address these problems.

The general scenario is this: there is a form bound to a table. The form
contains two comboboxes which I call Finders. They show the list of Sites by
Site Name and Site Number respectively, and as you navigate they refresh to
show the current Site.

So far, so good.

1. Create a New Site. This is not so simple as to just add a new row. The PK
for a site is based on a couple of other fields and also the date the site
was created. Assume that the Region is 101 and the year the site was opened
was 2007, then what we need to do is a dLookup for "10107*". If there are no
hits, this one gets numbered "10107A001". If there are hits, we grab the max
match, shave the tail and increment it and put it back, so it becomes
"10107A002". (Don't ask why the "A" is in there. Government.

Once a number has been assigned it can never under any circumstances be
changed.

I have the algorithm proved and re-proved and re-proved regarding the
generation of new site numbers. That's not the issue. The issue is that
there is a button on the form to create a new site, whose first command goes
to acNewRec or whatever it's called (I'm not at home as I write this), then
it pops up this dialog box which requests the Region number and the year and
then manufactures the new site number for insertion into the new record. All
that works lovely. Then it falls over, and I cannot figure out why, and I'm
currently too sick to deal with it.

2. Filter by Form. There is a set of buttons on said form that allow the
user to filter by form, then eventually cancel the filter, and so on. The
"Finders" need to keep in synch with this. I have code that I think does
this (by grabbing me.Filter and amending the rowsources of the two Finders)
but I've been so sick for the past month that I am unconfident that I've
tested it enough.

I need a second pair of eyes on these issues to make sure they work so I can
finally put this puppy to bed.

Any volunteers? I will send the FE and BE off-list in RAR or ZIP format. I
am willing to pay for services rendered. Meanwhile, I just  need to go back
to bed.

Arthur


From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Mon Nov 10 16:06:05 2008
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:06:05 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Second pair of eyes
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0811101235m5844131eu8fe6090a7579357e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <29f585dd0811101235m5844131eu8fe6090a7579357e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4918b045.15185e0a.67b9.ffffb731@mx.google.com>


Hello Arthur,

I am very sorry to hear that you are so unwell.  I suspect you will get lots
of offers to help and you can add mine to them.  Send it over if you get no
wiser heads than mine.

I hope you start to feel better very soon.

Regards

Max

Max dot Sherman AT gmail dot com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: 10 November 2008 20:35
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Second pair of eyes

Hi all,

I have one and possibly two outstanding issues with a simple Access app that
I wrote, and cannot seem to locate the problem. It should have been a
brain-dead-simple app to deliver, but I can't quite deliver the baby. I am
in the throes of some medical issues that I fear are non-trivial, and I just
don't have the energy to continue to address these problems.

The general scenario is this: there is a form bound to a table. The form
contains two comboboxes which I call Finders. They show the list of Sites by
Site Name and Site Number respectively, and as you navigate they refresh to
show the current Site.

So far, so good.

1. Create a New Site. This is not so simple as to just add a new row. The PK
for a site is based on a couple of other fields and also the date the site
was created. Assume that the Region is 101 and the year the site was opened
was 2007, then what we need to do is a dLookup for "10107*". If there are no
hits, this one gets numbered "10107A001". If there are hits, we grab the max
match, shave the tail and increment it and put it back, so it becomes
"10107A002". (Don't ask why the "A" is in there. Government.

Once a number has been assigned it can never under any circumstances be
changed.

I have the algorithm proved and re-proved and re-proved regarding the
generation of new site numbers. That's not the issue. The issue is that
there is a button on the form to create a new site, whose first command goes
to acNewRec or whatever it's called (I'm not at home as I write this), then
it pops up this dialog box which requests the Region number and the year and
then manufactures the new site number for insertion into the new record. All
that works lovely. Then it falls over, and I cannot figure out why, and I'm
currently too sick to deal with it.

2. Filter by Form. There is a set of buttons on said form that allow the
user to filter by form, then eventually cancel the filter, and so on. The
"Finders" need to keep in synch with this. I have code that I think does
this (by grabbing me.Filter and amending the rowsources of the two Finders)
but I've been so sick for the past month that I am unconfident that I've
tested it enough.

I need a second pair of eyes on these issues to make sure they work so I can
finally put this puppy to bed.

Any volunteers? I will send the FE and BE off-list in RAR or ZIP format. I
am willing to pay for services rendered. Meanwhile, I just  need to go back
to bed.

Arthur
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From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Mon Nov 10 16:31:01 2008
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:31:01 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Second pair of eyes
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Sorry Arthur,
Getting late here.  Mixed my email up.
Max dot wanadoo @ gmail dot com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: 10 November 2008 20:35
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Second pair of eyes

Hi all,

I have one and possibly two outstanding issues with a simple Access app that
I wrote, and cannot seem to locate the problem. It should have been a
brain-dead-simple app to deliver, but I can't quite deliver the baby. I am
in the throes of some medical issues that I fear are non-trivial, and I just
don't have the energy to continue to address these problems.

The general scenario is this: there is a form bound to a table. The form
contains two comboboxes which I call Finders. They show the list of Sites by
Site Name and Site Number respectively, and as you navigate they refresh to
show the current Site.

So far, so good.

1. Create a New Site. This is not so simple as to just add a new row. The PK
for a site is based on a couple of other fields and also the date the site
was created. Assume that the Region is 101 and the year the site was opened
was 2007, then what we need to do is a dLookup for "10107*". If there are no
hits, this one gets numbered "10107A001". If there are hits, we grab the max
match, shave the tail and increment it and put it back, so it becomes
"10107A002". (Don't ask why the "A" is in there. Government.

Once a number has been assigned it can never under any circumstances be
changed.

I have the algorithm proved and re-proved and re-proved regarding the
generation of new site numbers. That's not the issue. The issue is that
there is a button on the form to create a new site, whose first command goes
to acNewRec or whatever it's called (I'm not at home as I write this), then
it pops up this dialog box which requests the Region number and the year and
then manufactures the new site number for insertion into the new record. All
that works lovely. Then it falls over, and I cannot figure out why, and I'm
currently too sick to deal with it.

2. Filter by Form. There is a set of buttons on said form that allow the
user to filter by form, then eventually cancel the filter, and so on. The
"Finders" need to keep in synch with this. I have code that I think does
this (by grabbing me.Filter and amending the rowsources of the two Finders)
but I've been so sick for the past month that I am unconfident that I've
tested it enough.

I need a second pair of eyes on these issues to make sure they work so I can
finally put this puppy to bed.

Any volunteers? I will send the FE and BE off-list in RAR or ZIP format. I
am willing to pay for services rendered. Meanwhile, I just  need to go back
to bed.

Arthur
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From darren at activebilling.com.au  Mon Nov 10 18:53:54 2008
From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:53:54 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] How to use Microsoft's  calendar control in access
In-Reply-To: <002201c94370$0cfe4b80$65dea8c0@dudley1>
References: <001d01c9436d$b9f817b0$65dea8c0@dudley1>
	<002201c94370$0cfe4b80$65dea8c0@dudley1>
Message-ID: <000301c94397$fa0da250$0d1b910a@denzilnote>

Hi Edward

Personally I steer clear of the OCX calendar. It obviously has to be registered
blah blah blah

A long time ago (Sorry can't remember from whom) there was a post that included
a way cool non-ocx calendar drawn with boxes etc. I can send a copy off list -
Easy to work with and to get values into and out of

Then there is the timeless brilliance (grin) of Drew's minicalendar. Very simple
to work with

Again there is Lebans calendar too - All excellent products

Name your poison :-)
 
Darren
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Edward S Zuris
Sent: Tuesday, 11 November 2008 7:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] How to use Microsoft's calendar control in access


 I think I have learned how load the calendar control

 Ms-Access > tools >  custom  > Commands tab > calendar control 9.0

 Then dragged the control over to the tool box and it seems to work.

 Now how to use it.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Edward S Zuris
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 12:51 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] How to use Microsoft's calendar control in acces


 Help. . .

 How do you add the calendar control (mscal.ocx) to a form for access 2000 ?

 Using  > access tools > activeX controls and it seems to reg ok.

 Then to > access tools >  custom  > Commands tab > calendar control 9.0

 or Toolbox > customize >custom  > Commands tab > calendar control 9.0

 I can't draw the calendar control on the form.

 What to do ?
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Nov 10 21:28:45 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:28:45 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] How to use Microsoft's  calendar control in access
In-Reply-To: <000301c94397$fa0da250$0d1b910a@denzilnote>
References: <001d01c9436d$b9f817b0$65dea8c0@dudley1><002201c94370$0cfe4b80$65dea8c0@dudley1>
	<000301c94397$fa0da250$0d1b910a@denzilnote>
Message-ID: <2F4579D4AD184019B3855986DE81F56A@HAL9005>

I use the calendar from the Access Developer's Handbook.  If you have that
or know someone who does, it's a really nice calendar and easy to implement.



Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren D
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 4:54 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] How to use Microsoft's calendar control in access

Hi Edward

Personally I steer clear of the OCX calendar. It obviously has to be
registered blah blah blah

A long time ago (Sorry can't remember from whom) there was a post that
included a way cool non-ocx calendar drawn with boxes etc. I can send a copy
off list - Easy to work with and to get values into and out of

Then there is the timeless brilliance (grin) of Drew's minicalendar. Very
simple to work with

Again there is Lebans calendar too - All excellent products

Name your poison :-)
 
Darren
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Edward S Zuris
Sent: Tuesday, 11 November 2008 7:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] How to use Microsoft's calendar control in access


 I think I have learned how load the calendar control

 Ms-Access > tools >  custom  > Commands tab > calendar control 9.0

 Then dragged the control over to the tool box and it seems to work.

 Now how to use it.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Edward S Zuris
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 12:51 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] How to use Microsoft's calendar control in acces


 Help. . .

 How do you add the calendar control (mscal.ocx) to a form for access 2000 ?

 Using  > access tools > activeX controls and it seems to reg ok.

 Then to > access tools >  custom  > Commands tab > calendar control 9.0

 or Toolbox > customize >custom  > Commands tab > calendar control 9.0

 I can't draw the calendar control on the form.

 What to do ?
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From edzedz at comcast.net  Mon Nov 10 22:13:07 2008
From: edzedz at comcast.net (Edward S Zuris)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:13:07 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] How to use Microsoft's  calendar control in access
In-Reply-To: <000301c94397$fa0da250$0d1b910a@denzilnote>
Message-ID: <003901c943b3$cd9ff8f0$65dea8c0@dudley1>


 Yes please, I'll be happy to take a look.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Darren D
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 5:54 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] How to use Microsoft's calendar control in access

Hi Edward

Personally I steer clear of the OCX calendar. It obviously has to be
registered
blah blah blah

A long time ago (Sorry can't remember from whom) there was a post that
included
a way cool non-ocx calendar drawn with boxes etc. I can send a copy off
list -
Easy to work with and to get values into and out of

Then there is the timeless brilliance (grin) of Drew's minicalendar. Very
simple
to work with

Again there is Lebans calendar too - All excellent products

Name your poison :-)

Darren
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Edward S Zuris
Sent: Tuesday, 11 November 2008 7:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] How to use Microsoft's calendar control in access


 I think I have learned how load the calendar control

 Ms-Access > tools >  custom  > Commands tab > calendar control 9.0

 Then dragged the control over to the tool box and it seems to work.

 Now how to use it.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Edward S Zuris
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 12:51 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] How to use Microsoft's calendar control in acces


 Help. . .

 How do you add the calendar control (mscal.ocx) to a form for access 2000 ?

 Using  > access tools > activeX controls and it seems to reg ok.

 Then to > access tools >  custom  > Commands tab > calendar control 9.0

 or Toolbox > customize >custom  > Commands tab > calendar control 9.0

 I can't draw the calendar control on the form.

 What to do ?
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From DWUTKA at Marlow.com  Mon Nov 10 22:14:22 2008
From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:14:22 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] How to use Microsoft's  calendar control in access
In-Reply-To: <000301c94397$fa0da250$0d1b910a@denzilnote>
References: <001d01c9436d$b9f817b0$65dea8c0@dudley1><002201c94370$0cfe4b80$65dea8c0@dudley1>
	<000301c94397$fa0da250$0d1b910a@denzilnote>
Message-ID: <A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B201CDF69A@MIEXCH.marlow.ii-vi.net>

Egads, and to think I wrote that minicalendar a few months after I
taught myself to program...... The stuff I write now...wow... ;)

Going to post about that soon too....when I'm not exhausted.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren D
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:54 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] How to use Microsoft's calendar control in access

Hi Edward

Personally I steer clear of the OCX calendar. It obviously has to be
registered
blah blah blah

A long time ago (Sorry can't remember from whom) there was a post that
included
a way cool non-ocx calendar drawn with boxes etc. I can send a copy off
list -
Easy to work with and to get values into and out of

Then there is the timeless brilliance (grin) of Drew's minicalendar.
Very simple
to work with

Again there is Lebans calendar too - All excellent products

Name your poison :-)
 
Darren
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Edward S
Zuris
Sent: Tuesday, 11 November 2008 7:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] How to use Microsoft's calendar control in access


 I think I have learned how load the calendar control

 Ms-Access > tools >  custom  > Commands tab > calendar control 9.0

 Then dragged the control over to the tool box and it seems to work.

 Now how to use it.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Edward S Zuris
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 12:51 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] How to use Microsoft's calendar control in acces


 Help. . .

 How do you add the calendar control (mscal.ocx) to a form for access
2000 ?

 Using  > access tools > activeX controls and it seems to reg ok.

 Then to > access tools >  custom  > Commands tab > calendar control 9.0

 or Toolbox > customize >custom  > Commands tab > calendar control 9.0

 I can't draw the calendar control on the form.

 What to do ?
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From edzedz at comcast.net  Mon Nov 10 22:31:50 2008
From: edzedz at comcast.net (Edward S Zuris)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:31:50 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] How to use Microsoft's  calendar control in access
In-Reply-To: <2F4579D4AD184019B3855986DE81F56A@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <003a01c943b6$6b1559c0$65dea8c0@dudley1>


 Sorry, I don't have he Access Developer's Handbook.

 I have been following Calendar how-to from web site.
  http://www.fontstuff.com/access/acctut09.htm

 The part about dragging the control to the tool box
 wasn't covered very well.  But other clues came to
 the rescue.  So with a some VBA, I am able to make
 something useful for a customer.  If a little award.

 BTW, I wrote one using buttons, drawn by VBA, but it
 takes a lot of screen real-estate and is clunky.

 Thus the (MsCal.ocx) became the lesser of evils.

 I would like to see Drew's minicalendar to compare
 it the button code that I put together.




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
at Beach Access Software
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 8:29 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] How to use Microsoft's calendar control in access

I use the calendar from the Access Developer's Handbook.  If you have that
or know someone who does, it's a really nice calendar and easy to implement.


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren D
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 4:54 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] How to use Microsoft's calendar control in access

Hi Edward

Personally I steer clear of the OCX calendar. It obviously has to be
registered blah blah blah

A long time ago (Sorry can't remember from whom) there was a post that
included a way cool non-ocx calendar drawn with boxes etc. I can send a copy
off list - Easy to work with and to get values into and out of

Then there is the timeless brilliance (grin) of Drew's minicalendar. Very
simple to work with

Again there is Lebans calendar too - All excellent products

Name your poison :-)

Darren
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Edward S Zuris
Sent: Tuesday, 11 November 2008 7:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] How to use Microsoft's calendar control in access


 I think I have learned how load the calendar control

 Ms-Access > tools >  custom  > Commands tab > calendar control 9.0

 Then dragged the control over to the tool box and it seems to work.

 Now how to use it.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Edward S Zuris
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 12:51 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] How to use Microsoft's calendar control in acces


 Help. . .

 How do you add the calendar control (mscal.ocx) to a form for access 2000 ?

 Using  > access tools > activeX controls and it seems to reg ok.

 Then to > access tools >  custom  > Commands tab > calendar control 9.0

 or Toolbox > customize >custom  > Commands tab > calendar control 9.0

 I can't draw the calendar control on the form.

 What to do ?
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Nov 11 06:04:01 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 07:04:01 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Second pair of eyes
In-Reply-To: <4918b045.15185e0a.67b9.ffffb731@mx.google.com>
References: <29f585dd0811101235m5844131eu8fe6090a7579357e@mail.gmail.com>
	<4918b045.15185e0a.67b9.ffffb731@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0811110404l6567e788habe7ecbc7c65da94@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the offer, Max. I will post a zip to you later today. Meanwhile,
it's back to bed for me.

Arthur


From DWUTKA at Marlow.com  Tue Nov 11 17:01:55 2008
From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:01:55 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Second pair of eyes
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0811101235m5844131eu8fe6090a7579357e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B201CDF6B2@MIEXCH.marlow.ii-vi.net>

Arthur, if you don't have this fixed by the weekend, let me know.  I
think this is the same project I helped you work on before, but I'm
SWAMPED until this weekend.  So if you still need help then holler at me
offlist.  Hope you feel better soon.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 2:35 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Second pair of eyes

Hi all,

I have one and possibly two outstanding issues with a simple Access app
that
I wrote, and cannot seem to locate the problem. It should have been a
brain-dead-simple app to deliver, but I can't quite deliver the baby. I
am
in the throes of some medical issues that I fear are non-trivial, and I
just
don't have the energy to continue to address these problems.

The general scenario is this: there is a form bound to a table. The form
contains two comboboxes which I call Finders. They show the list of
Sites by
Site Name and Site Number respectively, and as you navigate they refresh
to
show the current Site.

So far, so good.

1. Create a New Site. This is not so simple as to just add a new row.
The PK
for a site is based on a couple of other fields and also the date the
site
was created. Assume that the Region is 101 and the year the site was
opened
was 2007, then what we need to do is a dLookup for "10107*". If there
are no
hits, this one gets numbered "10107A001". If there are hits, we grab the
max
match, shave the tail and increment it and put it back, so it becomes
"10107A002". (Don't ask why the "A" is in there. Government.

Once a number has been assigned it can never under any circumstances be
changed.

I have the algorithm proved and re-proved and re-proved regarding the
generation of new site numbers. That's not the issue. The issue is that
there is a button on the form to create a new site, whose first command
goes
to acNewRec or whatever it's called (I'm not at home as I write this),
then
it pops up this dialog box which requests the Region number and the year
and
then manufactures the new site number for insertion into the new record.
All
that works lovely. Then it falls over, and I cannot figure out why, and
I'm
currently too sick to deal with it.

2. Filter by Form. There is a set of buttons on said form that allow the
user to filter by form, then eventually cancel the filter, and so on.
The
"Finders" need to keep in synch with this. I have code that I think does
this (by grabbing me.Filter and amending the rowsources of the two
Finders)
but I've been so sick for the past month that I am unconfident that I've
tested it enough.

I need a second pair of eyes on these issues to make sure they work so I
can
finally put this puppy to bed.

Any volunteers? I will send the FE and BE off-list in RAR or ZIP format.
I
am willing to pay for services rendered. Meanwhile, I just  need to go
back
to bed.

Arthur
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Nov 11 18:28:41 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:28:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Second pair of eyes
In-Reply-To: <A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B201CDF6B2@MIEXCH.marlow.ii-vi.net>
References: <29f585dd0811101235m5844131eu8fe6090a7579357e@mail.gmail.com>
	<A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B201CDF6B2@MIEXCH.marlow.ii-vi.net>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0811111628s364f58c2ue52b965ed5e8c4fe@mail.gmail.com>

Our colleague Rocky Smolin has just emailed me 6 lines of code that he
alleges will fix the problem. I knew it would be something small, but
sometimes at my age myopia sets in and you can't even see the bloddy forest
let alone the trees. I'm hopeful his fix will work and will let you know
whether it does or doesn't.

On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Drew Wutka <DWUTKA at marlow.com> wrote:

> Arthur, if you don't have this fixed by the weekend, let me know.  I
> think this is the same project I helped you work on before, but I'm
> SWAMPED until this weekend.  So if you still need help then holler at me
> offlist.  Hope you feel better soon.
>
> Drew
>


From darren at activebilling.com.au  Tue Nov 11 20:19:51 2008
From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:19:51 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] How to use Microsoft's  calendar control in access
In-Reply-To: <003901c943b3$cd9ff8f0$65dea8c0@dudley1>
References: <000301c94397$fa0da250$0d1b910a@denzilnote>
	<003901c943b3$cd9ff8f0$65dea8c0@dudley1>
Message-ID: <00aa01c9446d$2762cc00$0d1b910a@denzilnote>

Hi Ed

Sample sent off list

Any me too's to darren at activebilling dot com dot au
 
Darren

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 Yes please, I'll be happy to take a look.

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Hi Edward

Personally I steer clear of the OCX calendar. It obviously has to be
registered
blah blah blah

A long time ago (Sorry can't remember from whom) there was a post that
included
a way cool non-ocx calendar drawn with boxes etc. I can send a copy off
list -
Easy to work with and to get values into and out of

Then there is the timeless brilliance (grin) of Drew's minicalendar. Very
simple
to work with

Again there is Lebans calendar too - All excellent products

Name your poison :-)

Darren
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 I think I have learned how load the calendar control

 Ms-Access > tools >  custom  > Commands tab > calendar control 9.0

 Then dragged the control over to the tool box and it seems to work.

 Now how to use it.



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 Help. . .

 How do you add the calendar control (mscal.ocx) to a form for access 2000 ?

 Using  > access tools > activeX controls and it seems to reg ok.

 Then to > access tools >  custom  > Commands tab > calendar control 9.0

 or Toolbox > customize >custom  > Commands tab > calendar control 9.0

 I can't draw the calendar control on the form.

 What to do ?
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From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au  Thu Nov 13 20:43:06 2008
From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 13:43:06 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Using SET and Variable control names
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Hi folks,

Friday and brain is fading... urrrgh

I have a line of code like this

[Forms]![ITFCT_frmRptPeriodSummary].[ITFCT_frmRptSubPeriodSummary_Opex].[Form].txt4_1_P1.ControlSource = "=" & dblValue

Firstly what I want is to make this nice and compact like this:

Set [Forms]![ITFCT_frmRptPeriodSummary2].[ITFCT_frmRptSubPeriodSummary_Opex].[Form] as frmTarget

which I am struggling to get to work.  bah.

also the control I want to build up out of variables like this

i = 4
j = 1
k = 1

CtrlSrcName = "txt" & i & "_" & j & "_P" & k (= "txt4_1_P1")

and then use

frmTarget.CtrlSrcName.ControlSource = "=" & dblValue

That all seems nice in aircode but darned if I can get it to work.

any advice?

Cheers
Darryl.

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From DWUTKA at Marlow.com  Thu Nov 13 20:48:41 2008
From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:48:41 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Using SET and Variable control names
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Ummm, to the first part, you have it backwards....

Set MyVariable = MyExistingObject

Drew

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Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:43 PM
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Subject: [AccessD] Using SET and Variable control names

Hi folks,

Friday and brain is fading... urrrgh

I have a line of code like this

[Forms]![ITFCT_frmRptPeriodSummary].[ITFCT_frmRptSubPeriodSummary_Opex].
[Form].txt4_1_P1.ControlSource = "=" & dblValue

Firstly what I want is to make this nice and compact like this:

Set
[Forms]![ITFCT_frmRptPeriodSummary2].[ITFCT_frmRptSubPeriodSummary_Opex]
.[Form] as frmTarget

which I am struggling to get to work.  bah.

also the control I want to build up out of variables like this

i = 4
j = 1
k = 1

CtrlSrcName = "txt" & i & "_" & j & "_P" & k (= "txt4_1_P1")

and then use

frmTarget.CtrlSrcName.ControlSource = "=" & dblValue

That all seems nice in aircode but darned if I can get it to work.

any advice?

Cheers
Darryl.

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From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au  Thu Nov 13 20:51:57 2008
From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 13:51:57 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Using SET and Variable control names
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OIC....  easy isn't it :)

thanks Drew.  Will keep working on the second part.  I thought it would be simple as I do this sort of thing a lot in Excel VBA - very handy.

cheers
Darryl.

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Sent: Friday, 14 November 2008 1:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Using SET and Variable control names


Ummm, to the first part, you have it backwards....

Set MyVariable = MyExistingObject

Drew

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Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:43 PM
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Subject: [AccessD] Using SET and Variable control names

Hi folks,

Friday and brain is fading... urrrgh

I have a line of code like this

[Forms]![ITFCT_frmRptPeriodSummary].[ITFCT_frmRptSubPeriodSummary_Opex].
[Form].txt4_1_P1.ControlSource = "=" & dblValue

Firstly what I want is to make this nice and compact like this:

Set
[Forms]![ITFCT_frmRptPeriodSummary2].[ITFCT_frmRptSubPeriodSummary_Opex]
.[Form] as frmTarget

which I am struggling to get to work.  bah.

also the control I want to build up out of variables like this

i = 4
j = 1
k = 1

CtrlSrcName = "txt" & i & "_" & j & "_P" & k (= "txt4_1_P1")

and then use

frmTarget.CtrlSrcName.ControlSource = "=" & dblValue

That all seems nice in aircode but darned if I can get it to work.

any advice?

Cheers
Darryl.

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From DWUTKA at Marlow.com  Thu Nov 13 21:58:59 2008
From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:58:59 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Using SET and Variable control names
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Well the only thing I see wrong with the second part is you show two
different variables, one is getting the value you are making and one is
setting, but not that these two are the same.

Drew

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Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Using SET and Variable control names

OIC....  easy isn't it :)

thanks Drew.  Will keep working on the second part.  I thought it would
be simple as I do this sort of thing a lot in Excel VBA - very handy.

cheers
Darryl.

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Sent: Friday, 14 November 2008 1:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Using SET and Variable control names


Ummm, to the first part, you have it backwards....

Set MyVariable = MyExistingObject

Drew

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl
Collins
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Using SET and Variable control names

Hi folks,

Friday and brain is fading... urrrgh

I have a line of code like this

[Forms]![ITFCT_frmRptPeriodSummary].[ITFCT_frmRptSubPeriodSummary_Opex].
[Form].txt4_1_P1.ControlSource = "=" & dblValue

Firstly what I want is to make this nice and compact like this:

Set
[Forms]![ITFCT_frmRptPeriodSummary2].[ITFCT_frmRptSubPeriodSummary_Opex]
.[Form] as frmTarget

which I am struggling to get to work.  bah.

also the control I want to build up out of variables like this

i = 4
j = 1
k = 1

CtrlSrcName = "txt" & i & "_" & j & "_P" & k (= "txt4_1_P1")

and then use

frmTarget.CtrlSrcName.ControlSource = "=" & dblValue

That all seems nice in aircode but darned if I can get it to work.

any advice?

Cheers
Darryl.

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From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au  Thu Nov 13 22:04:01 2008
From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:04:01 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Using SET and Variable control names
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Got it! :)

The exact syntax is

<For setting the form>
Dim frmTarget as Form
Set frmTarget = [Forms]![MyMainForm].[MySubForm].[Form]


<for using referencing variable controls on the form via code>
frmTarget("txt" & i & "_1_P" & n).ControlSource = "=" & dblValue
(where i and n are variables set in the code).

Got stuck as this is all down without the . between the form and control - (go figure).  Big thanks to Dev Ashish
http://www.mvps.org/access/forms/frm0003.htm

great stuff.  This is really starting to work nicely now :)

Thanks Drew.

Cheers
Darryl.


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
Sent: Friday, 14 November 2008 2:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Using SET and Variable control names


Well the only thing I see wrong with the second part is you show two
different variables, one is getting the value you are making and one is
setting, but not that these two are the same.

Drew

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Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Using SET and Variable control names

OIC....  easy isn't it :)

thanks Drew.  Will keep working on the second part.  I thought it would
be simple as I do this sort of thing a lot in Excel VBA - very handy.

cheers
Darryl.

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Sent: Friday, 14 November 2008 1:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Using SET and Variable control names


Ummm, to the first part, you have it backwards....

Set MyVariable = MyExistingObject

Drew

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl
Collins
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Using SET and Variable control names

Hi folks,

Friday and brain is fading... urrrgh

I have a line of code like this

[Forms]![ITFCT_frmRptPeriodSummary].[ITFCT_frmRptSubPeriodSummary_Opex].
[Form].txt4_1_P1.ControlSource = "=" & dblValue

Firstly what I want is to make this nice and compact like this:

Set
[Forms]![ITFCT_frmRptPeriodSummary2].[ITFCT_frmRptSubPeriodSummary_Opex]
.[Form] as frmTarget

which I am struggling to get to work.  bah.

also the control I want to build up out of variables like this

i = 4
j = 1
k = 1

CtrlSrcName = "txt" & i & "_" & j & "_P" & k (= "txt4_1_P1")

and then use

frmTarget.CtrlSrcName.ControlSource = "=" & dblValue

That all seems nice in aircode but darned if I can get it to work.

any advice?

Cheers
Darryl.

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From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Fri Nov 14 03:47:28 2008
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 09:47:28 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Using SET and Variable control names
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Darryl,
Something like this works:

  Dim frm As Form, ctl As Control
  Set frm = [Forms]![frmCreateBatchesFromExcel]
  Set ctl = frm![TxtTempTable]
  MsgBox ctl.Value

You might try playing around with the Eval() function to see if you can
somehow "macro" the expression you are building into an Object.

Max


On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:43 AM, Darryl Collins <Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au
> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Friday and brain is fading... urrrgh
>
> I have a line of code like this
>
> [Forms]![ITFCT_frmRptPeriodSummary].[ITFCT_frmRptSubPeriodSummary_Opex].[Form].txt4_1_P1.ControlSource
> = "=" & dblValue
>
> Firstly what I want is to make this nice and compact like this:
>
> Set
> [Forms]![ITFCT_frmRptPeriodSummary2].[ITFCT_frmRptSubPeriodSummary_Opex].[Form]
> as frmTarget
>
> which I am struggling to get to work.  bah.
>
> also the control I want to build up out of variables like this
>
> i = 4
> j = 1
> k = 1
>
> CtrlSrcName = "txt" & i & "_" & j & "_P" & k (= "txt4_1_P1")
>
> and then use
>
> frmTarget.CtrlSrcName.ControlSource = "=" & dblValue
>
> That all seems nice in aircode but darned if I can get it to work.
>
> any advice?
>
> Cheers
> Darryl.
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Fri Nov 14 08:20:53 2008
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 09:20:53 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
Message-ID: <027f01c94664$350d5570$2f8601c7@SusanOne>

I'm writing about Office 2007's Quick Access toolbar and I want to know what 
commands you added to it -- for any application, not just Access.

Susan H. 



From iggy at nanaimo.ark.com  Fri Nov 14 11:33:39 2008
From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com (Tony Septav)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 09:33:39 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Appending RTF files
Message-ID: <491DB673.20508@nanaimo.ark.com>

Hey All
Is it possible using code to append/add the contents of one RTF into 
another RTF file.
I need to create a RTF log file for a client, where the user can 
update/attend to activities,  and then have the application  update the 
file with new information as it occurs, to be attended to.

Thanks


From markamatte at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 14 11:43:36 2008
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:43:36 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Appending RTF files
In-Reply-To: <491DB673.20508@nanaimo.ark.com>
References: <491DB673.20508@nanaimo.ark.com>
Message-ID: <BAY127-W37425201FD2D27120F1CCBD2160@phx.gbl>


Wll the user manually update the file?  If not...why not just have the app re-create the file each time with the old stuff and additions?
 
Mark> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 09:33:39 -0800> From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: [AccessD] Appending RTF files> > Hey All> Is it possible using code to append/add the contents of one RTF into > another RTF file.> I need to create a RTF log file for a client, where the user can > update/attend to activities, and then have the application update the > file with new information as it occurs, to be attended to.> > Thanks> -- > AccessD mailing list> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov 14 11:58:38 2008
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:58:38 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Appending RTF files
Message-ID: <s91dca69.001@cactus.dk>

Hi Tony

So how would you create/format those RTF files/entries?

/gustav

>>> iggy at nanaimo.ark.com 14-11-2008 18:33:39 >>>
Hey All
Is it possible using code to append/add the contents of one RTF into another RTF file.
I need to create a RTF log file for a client, where the user can update/attend to activities,  and then have the application  update the file with new information as it occurs, to be attended to.





From iggy at nanaimo.ark.com  Fri Nov 14 12:23:30 2008
From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com (Tony Septav)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:23:30 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Appending RTF Files
Message-ID: <491DC222.3040501@nanaimo.ark.com>

Hey Mark and Gustav
Mark
The user will tagging the information in the file as completed,  so I 
cannot just recreate the file each time. 
Gustav
I was thinking on initially exporting a simple report to an RTF file. 
And renaming it something like Master and then exporting the new report 
to an RTF and appending it to the Master. 

This is just temporary fix for what the client wants to be able to do in 
the interim (otherwise they are not wanting to spend much in the buck 
department), so if  it quite complex  then  I will resort to just 
recreating the RTF file, with the new and old information each time and 
they will have to live with it.


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov 14 12:32:28 2008
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:32:28 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Appending RTF Files
Message-ID: <s91dd268.005@cactus.dk>

Hi Tony

You can control Word from Access via automation and insert what you wish.
However, I'm not much into Word so someone else will have to guide you if you need assistance.

/gustav

>>> iggy at nanaimo.ark.com 14-11-2008 19:23:30 >>>
Hey Mark and Gustav
Mark
The user will tagging the information in the file as completed,  so I 
cannot just recreate the file each time. 
Gustav
I was thinking on initially exporting a simple report to an RTF file. 
And renaming it something like Master and then exporting the new report 
to an RTF and appending it to the Master. 

This is just temporary fix for what the client wants to be able to do in 
the interim (otherwise they are not wanting to spend much in the buck 
department), so if  it quite complex  then  I will resort to just 
recreating the RTF file, with the new and old information each time and 
they will have to live with it.





From paul_lifopro at cox.net  Fri Nov 14 12:58:52 2008
From: paul_lifopro at cox.net (paul_lifopro)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:58:52 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing Capabilities
Message-ID: <002301c9468b$094eafc0$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2>

I'm volunteering my time to work on a small system for a non-profit
organization.

 

The organization has an Expo every year and they have been keeping track of
the exhibitors, booth space and donated items using Excel.  While this
works, its pretty time consuming and inefficient.

 

I have the DB, Forms and reports pretty well finished.  What I need help on
is how to create a diagram/chart of how the booths are set up in the
building.  It seems like I should be able to interface Access and maybe
Visio to get this done.

 

Ideally, I'd like to draw he booth setup on a form and then somehow let the
people click on a booth and have a modal form come up and show the
information about the booth i.e. size, is it taken, is it a premium booth,
etc.

 

I've googled every key word I can think of but haven't been able to find any
examples.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Thanks

 

Paul



From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Fri Nov 14 13:03:47 2008
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:03:47 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access Programmers in Derby UK
In-Reply-To: <002301c9468b$094eafc0$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2>
References: <002301c9468b$094eafc0$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2>
Message-ID: <491dcb91.0ec5100a.3516.ffffba40@mx.google.com>

Hi All,
Are there any Access Programmers in or around Derby UK looking to provide
some (paid) support work on a regular on-going basis?
Thanks
Max




From lmrazek at lcm-res.com  Fri Nov 14 13:03:16 2008
From: lmrazek at lcm-res.com (Lawrence Mrazek)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 13:03:16 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB
In-Reply-To: <027f01c94664$350d5570$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
References: <027f01c94664$350d5570$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <046d01c9468b$a77ebff0$f67c3fd0$@com>

Hi Folks:

Is it possible to use Active Directory to login to an Access DB (XP in this
case)? Can I access the current AD username and groups via VBA code?

I'm just trying to see what's possible in this area right now and if anyone
is using this functionality in their apps. 

Thanks in advance. 

Larry Mrazek
ph. 314-432-5886
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
http://www.lcm-res.com





From markamatte at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 14 13:33:30 2008
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:33:30 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing Capabilities
In-Reply-To: <002301c9468b$094eafc0$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2>
References: <002301c9468b$094eafc0$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2>
Message-ID: <BAY127-W34A22874EBF8B4F0A2547BD2160@phx.gbl>


I did not set it up to print the room...but I have done something similar where I had a number of shapes/images on the screen(42 pool tables,25 dining, stools, bar)...and the user could rearrange/orient each of the items...click on each image to 'do stuff' or see info related to it.
 
I used rectangles and embedded images.  Everything is adjusted by 'twips'.
 
Not the prettiest approach...but could accomplish what you are looking for.
 
Good luck.
 
Mark A. Matte> From: paul_lifopro at cox.net> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:58:52 -0600> Subject: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing Capabilities> > I'm volunteering my time to work on a small system for a non-profit> organization.> > > > The organization has an Expo every year and they have been keeping track of> the exhibitors, booth space and donated items using Excel. While this> works, its pretty time consuming and inefficient.> > > > I have the DB, Forms and reports pretty well finished. What I need help on> is how to create a diagram/chart of how the booths are set up in the> building. It seems like I should be able to interface Access and maybe> Visio to get this done.> > > > Ideally, I'd like to draw he booth setup on a form and then somehow let the> people click on a booth and have a modal form come up and show the> information about the booth i.e. size, is it taken, is it a premium booth,> etc.> > > > I've googled every key word I can think of but haven't been able to find any> examples.> > > > Any help would be appreciated.> > > > Thanks> > > > Paul> > -- > AccessD mailing list> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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From DWUTKA at Marlow.com  Fri Nov 14 15:48:32 2008
From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:48:32 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB
In-Reply-To: <046d01c9468b$a77ebff0$f67c3fd0$@com>
Message-ID: <A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B201CDF6E6@MIEXCH.marlow.ii-vi.net>

Ok, you asked, so sit back and read.  I am not going to include any code
at this point, because there would be too much to throw at you at once!

To start with, there are a few ways to get AD information.  The easiest
and least code intensive is to just go off of NT User name (or Active
Directory Account name).  To retrieve this name, is a very simple
function (just a few lines of code).  You can also retrieve the name of
the domain you are on with a simple line of code too.  So if you just
want to know that jsmith on MyCompany domain is getting into your
database, you can use those two simple functions to verify that.

HOWEVER, the steps above are going to go off of the credentials of the
user currently logged into the machine.  It will even work if the user
is technically 'offline', because the functions for those will go off of
the local machine's cached credentials.  This is usually as far as most
Access developers will go to integrate their systems with Active
Directory.

However, if you want to go further, you can actually 'query' Active
Directory.  Querying AD is a little different then Access Queries.  The
language is a bit different, different qualifiers, structure, etc.
However, by querying AD, you can get a list of all current users,
groups, group membership, etc.  You can also 'authenticate' a user
against Active directory.  I have a function that will do that if you
provide the username and password.  

So, if you truly want to make a system that is integrated with Active
Directory, I would build a 'user framework'.  I do this with a global
user class.  When it initializes, it gets all the current user
information based off of the logged in user, but it can be changed to
represent another user through the authentication method I described
earlier.  All functions/features are then verified through this class.

I will caution you, however, that while Access is a great RAD tool, when
it is used as a Front End, it is less then secure.  I personally have
never used AD integration with an Access FE, I have used it with a VB FE
and with Web based front ends, where the database is not directly
available to the users.  So if you are looking to use AD integration as
a simple method of user administration, go ahead, but if you are
planning on user AD integration for security purposes, I would recommend
a different platform for your front end.

Drew

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lawrence
Mrazek
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 1:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB

Hi Folks:

Is it possible to use Active Directory to login to an Access DB (XP in
this
case)? Can I access the current AD username and groups via VBA code?

I'm just trying to see what's possible in this area right now and if
anyone
is using this functionality in their apps. 

Thanks in advance. 

Larry Mrazek
ph. 314-432-5886
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
http://www.lcm-res.com



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From bheid at sc.rr.com  Fri Nov 14 16:57:33 2008
From: bheid at sc.rr.com (Bobby Heid)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:57:33 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
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Print preview and print.

Bobby

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:21 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey

I'm writing about Office 2007's Quick Access toolbar and I want to know what

commands you added to it -- for any application, not just Access.

Susan H. 

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Nov 14 17:13:26 2008
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 09:13:26 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing Capabilities
In-Reply-To: <002301c9468b$094eafc0$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2>
References: <002301c9468b$094eafc0$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2>
Message-ID: <491E92B6.9847.4360D87@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Are all booths rectangular?  If so, you can possibly do it by placing  different sized buttons 
on a form. By naming the buttons consistently to identify the booths, it would be fairly simple 
to write a generic function called from the on_ckickthat popped up a msgbox or modal form 
with the info for the specific booth.


 

On 14 Nov 2008 at 12:58, paul_lifopro wrote:

> I'm volunteering my time to work on a small system for a non-profit
> organization.
> 
>  
> 
> The organization has an Expo every year and they have been keeping track of
> the exhibitors, booth space and donated items using Excel.  While this
> works, its pretty time consuming and inefficient.
> 
>  
> 
> I have the DB, Forms and reports pretty well finished.  What I need help on
> is how to create a diagram/chart of how the booths are set up in the
> building.  It seems like I should be able to interface Access and maybe
> Visio to get this done.
> 
>  
> 
> Ideally, I'd like to draw he booth setup on a form and then somehow let the
> people click on a booth and have a modal form come up and show the
> information about the booth i.e. size, is it taken, is it a premium booth,
> etc.
> 
>  
> 
> I've googled every key word I can think of but haven't been able to find any
> examples.
> 
>  
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks
> 
>  
> 
> Paul
> 
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From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au  Fri Nov 14 17:37:52 2008
From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins)
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 10:37:52 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing Capabilities
In-Reply-To: <491E92B6.9847.4360D87@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC272007ACD7DEC7@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au>



Expanding on Stuart's idea, If you have an existing layout of the plans as a JPG or similar, cut it into the component shapes using a picture editor, import the objects like a jigsaw and piece them back together and then put a click event on them to open up a details popup form.  this may save you a lot of drawing - Just a thought.

Or you maybe even able to use code to track where the mouse is over the image and just use that instead (?)

cheers
Darryl.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Saturday, 15 November 2008 10:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing Capabilities


Are all booths rectangular?  If so, you can possibly do it by placing  different sized buttons
on a form. By naming the buttons consistently to identify the booths, it would be fairly simple
to write a generic function called from the on_ckickthat popped up a msgbox or modal form
with the info for the specific booth.




On 14 Nov 2008 at 12:58, paul_lifopro wrote:

> I'm volunteering my time to work on a small system for a non-profit
> organization.
>
>
>
> The organization has an Expo every year and they have been keeping track of
> the exhibitors, booth space and donated items using Excel.  While this
> works, its pretty time consuming and inefficient.
>
>
>
> I have the DB, Forms and reports pretty well finished.  What I need help on
> is how to create a diagram/chart of how the booths are set up in the
> building.  It seems like I should be able to interface Access and maybe
> Visio to get this done.
>
>
>
> Ideally, I'd like to draw he booth setup on a form and then somehow let the
> people click on a booth and have a modal form come up and show the
> information about the booth i.e. size, is it taken, is it a premium booth,
> etc.
>
>
>
> I've googled every key word I can think of but haven't been able to find any
> examples.
>
>
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Paul
>
> --
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From garykjos at gmail.com  Fri Nov 14 19:00:58 2008
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:00:58 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
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References: <027f01c94664$350d5570$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
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Not ignoring you.. just only use A2007 at home on a very limited
basis. We still ise 2003 version at work with no plan to move..

GK


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> I'm writing about Office 2007's Quick Access toolbar and I want to know what
> commands you added to it -- for any application, not just Access.
>
> Susan H.
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From jwelz at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 14 23:39:22 2008
From: jwelz at hotmail.com (Jurgen Welz)
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:39:22 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing Capabilities
In-Reply-To: <002301c9468b$094eafc0$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2>
References: <002301c9468b$094eafc0$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2>
Message-ID: <BLU144-W146113844503F1834D9C5BA1110@phx.gbl>


http://www.lebans.com/paintprogram.htmCiao 
J?rgen Welz 
Edmonton, Alberta 
jwelz at hotmail.com> From: paul_lifopro at cox.net> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:58:52 -0600> Subject: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing Capabilities> > I'm volunteering my time to work on a small system for a non-profit> organization.> > > > The organization has an Expo every year and they have been keeping track of> the exhibitors, booth space and donated items using Excel. While this> works, its pretty time consuming and inefficient.> > > > I have the DB, Forms and reports pretty well finished. What I need help on> is how to create a diagram/chart of how the booths are set up in the> building. It seems like I should be able to interface Access and maybe> Visio to get this done.> > > > Ideally, I'd like to draw he booth setup on a form and then somehow let the> people click on a booth and have a modal form come up and show the> information about the booth i.e. size, is it taken, is it a premium booth,> etc.> > > > I've googled every key word I can think of but haven't been able to find any> examples.> > > > Any help would be appreciated.> > > > Thanks> > > > Paul> > -- > AccessD mailing list> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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From lmrazek at lcm-res.com  Sat Nov 15 01:18:40 2008
From: lmrazek at lcm-res.com (Lawrence Mrazek)
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:18:40 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB
In-Reply-To: <A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B201CDF6E6@MIEXCH.marlow.ii-vi.net>
References: <046d01c9468b$a77ebff0$f67c3fd0$@com>
	<A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B201CDF6E6@MIEXCH.marlow.ii-vi.net>
Message-ID: <053001c946f2$62b79c40$2826d4c0$@com>

Hi Drew:

Thanks for the great response; it really helped bring everything into focus.


I might only need to query against Active Directory, so a common user
framework running on all of their apps might do the trick.

Larry Mrazek
ph. 314-432-5886
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
http://www.lcm-res.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 3:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB

Ok, you asked, so sit back and read.  I am not going to include any code at
this point, because there would be too much to throw at you at once!

To start with, there are a few ways to get AD information.  The easiest and
least code intensive is to just go off of NT User name (or Active Directory
Account name).  To retrieve this name, is a very simple function (just a few
lines of code).  You can also retrieve the name of the domain you are on
with a simple line of code too.  So if you just want to know that jsmith on
MyCompany domain is getting into your database, you can use those two simple
functions to verify that.

HOWEVER, the steps above are going to go off of the credentials of the user
currently logged into the machine.  It will even work if the user is
technically 'offline', because the functions for those will go off of the
local machine's cached credentials.  This is usually as far as most Access
developers will go to integrate their systems with Active Directory.

However, if you want to go further, you can actually 'query' Active
Directory.  Querying AD is a little different then Access Queries.  The
language is a bit different, different qualifiers, structure, etc.
However, by querying AD, you can get a list of all current users, groups,
group membership, etc.  You can also 'authenticate' a user against Active
directory.  I have a function that will do that if you provide the username
and password.  

So, if you truly want to make a system that is integrated with Active
Directory, I would build a 'user framework'.  I do this with a global user
class.  When it initializes, it gets all the current user information based
off of the logged in user, but it can be changed to represent another user
through the authentication method I described earlier.  All
functions/features are then verified through this class.

I will caution you, however, that while Access is a great RAD tool, when it
is used as a Front End, it is less then secure.  I personally have never
used AD integration with an Access FE, I have used it with a VB FE and with
Web based front ends, where the database is not directly available to the
users.  So if you are looking to use AD integration as a simple method of
user administration, go ahead, but if you are planning on user AD
integration for security purposes, I would recommend a different platform
for your front end.

Drew

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Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 1:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB

Hi Folks:

Is it possible to use Active Directory to login to an Access DB (XP in this
case)? Can I access the current AD username and groups via VBA code?

I'm just trying to see what's possible in this area right now and if anyone
is using this functionality in their apps. 

Thanks in advance. 

Larry Mrazek
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From johncliviger at aol.com  Sat Nov 15 05:11:20 2008
From: johncliviger at aol.com (johncliviger at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 06:11:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing Capabilities
In-Reply-To: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC272007ACD7DEC7@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au>
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Paul

I've just used Paint to create an "L" shaped graphic and imported in to an Access 03 Form using the Image control where? you've?got 5 events to play with. And its works fine.

johnb


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Sent: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:37
Subject: Re: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing Capabilities





Expanding on Stuart's idea, If you have an existing layout of the plans as a JPG 
or similar, cut it into the component shapes using a picture editor, import the 
objects like a jigsaw and piece them back together and then put a click event on 
them to open up a details popup form.  this may save you a lot of drawing - Just 
a thought.

Or you maybe even able to use code to track where the mouse is over the image 
and just use that instead (?)

cheers
Darryl.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Saturday, 15 November 2008 10:13 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing Capabilities


Are all booths rectangular?  If so, you can possibly do it by placing  different 
sized buttons
on a form. By naming the buttons consistently to identify the booths, it would 
be fairly simple
to write a generic function called from the on_ckickthat popped up a msgbox or 
modal form
with the info for the specific booth.




On 14 Nov 2008 at 12:58, paul_lifopro wrote:

> I'm volunteering my time to work on a small system for a non-profit
> organization.
>
>
>
> The organization has an Expo every year and they have been keeping track of
> the exhibitors, booth space and donated items using Excel.  While this
> works, its pretty time consuming and inefficient.
>
>
>
> I have the DB, Forms and reports pretty well finished.  What I need help on
> is how to create a diagram/chart of how the booths are set up in the
> building.  It seems like I should be able to interface Access and maybe
> Visio to get this done.
>
>
>
> Ideally, I'd like to draw he booth setup on a form and then somehow let the
> people click on a booth and have a modal form come up and show the
> information about the booth i.e. size, is it taken, is it a premium booth,
> etc.
>
>
>
> I've googled every key word I can think of but haven't been able to find any
> examples.
>
>
>
> Any help would be ap
preciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Paul
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From johncliviger at aol.com  Sat Nov 15 05:31:03 2008
From: johncliviger at aol.com (johncliviger at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 06:31:03 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access Programmers in Derby UK
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References: <002301c9468b$094eafc0$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2>
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Max 
Is West Yorks too far ?

johnb


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To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:03
Subject: [AccessD] Access Programmers in Derby UK



Hi All,
Are there any Access Programmers in or around Derby UK looking to provide
some (paid) support work on a regular on-going basis?
Thanks
Max


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From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Sat Nov 15 06:47:36 2008
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 12:47:36 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access Programmers in Derby UK
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Hi John,
That would depend on you to a very large extent.  Shall I give you a ring on
Monday when I am back in the office and tell you what the situation is. It
won't be possible via email.
What part of W.Yorks are we talking about?
Do you have a tel no you can give me.
Thanks
Max
Ps. Just off shopping.

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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Programmers in Derby UK

Max 
Is West Yorks too far ?

johnb


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Hi All,
Are there any Access Programmers in or around Derby UK looking to provide
some (paid) support work on a regular on-going basis?
Thanks
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From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Sat Nov 15 06:49:54 2008
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 12:49:54 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access Programmers in Derby UK
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John,
My email is max DOT wanadoo AT gmail.com

Thanks
Max


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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Programmers in Derby UK

Max 
Is West Yorks too far ?

johnb


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Sent: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:03
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Are there any Access Programmers in or around Derby UK looking to provide
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From iggy at nanaimo.ark.com  Sat Nov 15 11:25:36 2008
From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com (Tony Septav)
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 09:25:36 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Appending RTF Files
In-Reply-To: <s91dd268.005@cactus.dk>
References: <s91dd268.005@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <491F0610.9030503@nanaimo.ark.com>

Thanks Gustav
Found some code this morning, for doing just that with Word. Funny 
though just as I was starting to implement it, I got a phone call from 
the client saying "not to worry about appending right now".  Jeez and I 
thought only "bone-headed" programmers worked on the weekends.

Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Tony
>
>You can control Word from Access via automation and insert what you wish.
>However, I'm not much into Word so someone else will have to guide you if you need assistance.
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>iggy at nanaimo.ark.com 14-11-2008 19:23:30 >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>Hey Mark and Gustav
>Mark
>The user will tagging the information in the file as completed,  so I 
>cannot just recreate the file each time. 
>Gustav
>I was thinking on initially exporting a simple report to an RTF file. 
>And renaming it something like Master and then exporting the new report 
>to an RTF and appending it to the Master. 
>
>This is just temporary fix for what the client wants to be able to do in 
>the interim (otherwise they are not wanting to spend much in the buck 
>department), so if  it quite complex  then  I will resort to just 
>recreating the RTF file, with the new and old information each time and 
>they will have to live with it.
>
>
>
>  
>



From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sat Nov 15 11:39:13 2008
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 11:39:13 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Appending RTF Files
In-Reply-To: <491F0610.9030503@nanaimo.ark.com>
References: <s91dd268.005@cactus.dk> <491F0610.9030503@nanaimo.ark.com>
Message-ID: <17FF490628964ED8A94B0A33C2B803D9@danwaters>

I got an email from a client at 6:17 this morning (Saturday)!

Dan

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 11:26 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Appending RTF Files

Thanks Gustav
Found some code this morning, for doing just that with Word. Funny 
though just as I was starting to implement it, I got a phone call from 
the client saying "not to worry about appending right now".  Jeez and I 
thought only "bone-headed" programmers worked on the weekends.

Gustav Brock wrote:

>Hi Tony
>
>You can control Word from Access via automation and insert what you wish.
>However, I'm not much into Word so someone else will have to guide you if
you need assistance.
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>iggy at nanaimo.ark.com 14-11-2008 19:23:30 >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>Hey Mark and Gustav
>Mark
>The user will tagging the information in the file as completed,  so I 
>cannot just recreate the file each time. 
>Gustav
>I was thinking on initially exporting a simple report to an RTF file. 
>And renaming it something like Master and then exporting the new report 
>to an RTF and appending it to the Master. 
>
>This is just temporary fix for what the client wants to be able to do in 
>the interim (otherwise they are not wanting to spend much in the buck 
>department), so if  it quite complex  then  I will resort to just 
>recreating the RTF file, with the new and old information each time and 
>they will have to live with it.
>
>
>
>  
>

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From kp at sdsonline.net  Sun Nov 16 19:04:27 2008
From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:04:27 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] sign off
Message-ID: <00ca01c94850$71ba0610$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP>

Hi listers - Please forgive the OT but just a final goodbye as I am starting my new role as an employee - (aaarrrgghh! scary stuff after working for myself for the last decade!). 

I am going to be starting a role as Business Analyst back in the finance industry here in Melbourne - 

I have had so much help from you all over the years and have loved lurking and participating in the list - it's  a great community with some wonderful people. There were many (many!) times when you helped me out and i thank you all for that.

I don't imagine that I will be coding much in my new role but who knows? I have loved working with Access so you never know. if I ever again delve back into databases then no doubt I will I will pop back for a visit.

Thanks everybody - 

warm regards
Kath Pelletti

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sun Nov 16 20:05:46 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:05:46 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] sign off
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References: <00ca01c94850$71ba0610$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP>
Message-ID: <AAE31F30CF354CA59E41E8905DC89E53@HAL9005>

Best of luck, Kath.  Don't be a stranger.   Join the OT list.


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
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Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 5:04 PM
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Hi listers - Please forgive the OT but just a final goodbye as I am starting
my new role as an employee - (aaarrrgghh! scary stuff after working for
myself for the last decade!). 

I am going to be starting a role as Business Analyst back in the finance
industry here in Melbourne - 

I have had so much help from you all over the years and have loved lurking
and participating in the list - it's  a great community with some wonderful
people. There were many (many!) times when you helped me out and i thank you
all for that.

I don't imagine that I will be coding much in my new role but who knows? I
have loved working with Access so you never know. if I ever again delve back
into databases then no doubt I will I will pop back for a visit.

Thanks everybody - 

warm regards
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From darren at activebilling.com.au  Sun Nov 16 20:11:05 2008
From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:11:05 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] sign off
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References: <00ca01c94850$71ba0610$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP>
Message-ID: <001601c94859$c051df10$0d1b910a@denzilnote>

Hi Kath

Very sad to see you go - I'll give you one last call and harass you about....Oh
I dunno - I'll think of something - Perhaps the Melbourne weather <snigger>

It's been a pleasure - I do hope your new position is more than you hoped for
and brings great happiness

All the very best

Darren
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Sent: Monday, 17 November 2008 12:04 PM
To: Access D Normal List
Subject: [AccessD] sign off

Hi listers - Please forgive the OT but just a final goodbye as I am starting my
new role as an employee - (aaarrrgghh! scary stuff after working for myself for
the last decade!). 

I am going to be starting a role as Business Analyst back in the finance
industry here in Melbourne - 

I have had so much help from you all over the years and have loved lurking and
participating in the list - it's  a great community with some wonderful people.
There were many (many!) times when you helped me out and i thank you all for
that.

I don't imagine that I will be coding much in my new role but who knows? I have
loved working with Access so you never know. if I ever again delve back into
databases then no doubt I will I will pop back for a visit.

Thanks everybody - 

warm regards
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From darren at activebilling.com.au  Mon Nov 17 00:11:07 2008
From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:11:07 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: SQL Trusted Connection Error to SQL Server 2000
Message-ID: <008101c9487b$49098df0$0d1b910a@denzilnote>

Hi Team

 

I have one machine that regardless off what I do it just will not 'connect' to
anything in our SQL Server Databases

I am running some on the fly pass through code for running queries etc in the
SQL dB - (I can forward that if needed)

 

The passthrough code works like a charm on my machine but always always always
fails on this one machine - I am convinced there is something setup or not setup
on that machine

 

Anyway even when I pass the user name and password in the connection string for
the SQL Connection it still fails (Debug.print below)

 

DEBUG.PRINT RESULTS OF THE CONNECTION STRING: ODBC;Driver={SQL
Server};Server=OurServer;Database=SomedB; -u dd; -p xxx123xxx (credentials
changed but you get the idea)

 

Error Message:

 

"Connection Failed"

SQL State: '28000'

SQL Server error; 18452 [Microsft] [ODBC SQL Server Driver] [SQL Server] Login
failed for user '(null)'. Reason: not associated with a trusted SQL Server
Connection 

 

So - It claims I am passing a null value in the connection string for the user -
but this is not true 

Then when the user clicks ok there is a small SQL server logon screen with the
users name in the Username field

This is killing me - Any suggestions? - Anyone dealt with this before?

 

DD



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Nov 17 00:35:40 2008
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:35:40 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: SQL Trusted Connection Error to SQL Server 2000
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References: <008101c9487b$49098df0$0d1b910a@denzilnote>
Message-ID: <49219D5C.16347.863A93@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Is the server set up for User AND Wndows authentication 

>From the error message, it looks as though it is set up to use Windows authentication.
Does the *logged in user* on the problem machine have access rights to SomedB?


On 17 Nov 2008 at 17:11, Darren D wrote:

> Hi Team
> 
>  
> 
> I have one machine that regardless off what I do it just will not 'connect' to
> anything in our SQL Server Databases
> 
> I am running some on the fly pass through code for running queries etc in the
> SQL dB - (I can forward that if needed)
> 
>  
> 
> The passthrough code works like a charm on my machine but always always always
> fails on this one machine - I am convinced there is something setup or not setup
> on that machine
> 
>  
> 
> Anyway even when I pass the user name and password in the connection string for
> the SQL Connection it still fails (Debug.print below)
> 
>  
> 
> DEBUG.PRINT RESULTS OF THE CONNECTION STRING: ODBC;Driver={SQL
> Server};Server=OurServer;Database=SomedB; -u dd; -p xxx123xxx (credentials
> changed but you get the idea)
> 
>  
> 
> Error Message:
> 
>  
> 
> "Connection Failed"
> 
> SQL State: '28000'
> 
> SQL Server error; 18452 [Microsft] [ODBC SQL Server Driver] [SQL Server] Login
> failed for user '(null)'. Reason: not associated with a trusted SQL Server
> Connection 
> 
>  
> 
> So - It claims I am passing a null value in the connection string for the user -
> but this is not true 
> 
> Then when the user clicks ok there is a small SQL server logon screen with the
> users name in the Username field
> 
> This is killing me - Any suggestions? - Anyone dealt with this before?
> 
>  
> 
> DD
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Mon Nov 17 01:59:22 2008
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 07:59:22 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] sign off
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Message-ID: <99E4C0D3905C4C8882C7642D4D01CFF0@MINSTER>

All the very best in the new job Kath. You'll be missed here.

Andy Lacey


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Sent: 17 November 2008 01:04
To: Access D Normal List
Subject: [AccessD] sign off


Hi listers - Please forgive the OT but just a final goodbye as I am starting
my new role as an employee - (aaarrrgghh! scary stuff after working for
myself for the last decade!). 

I am going to be starting a role as Business Analyst back in the finance
industry here in Melbourne - 

I have had so much help from you all over the years and have loved lurking
and participating in the list - it's  a great community with some wonderful
people. There were many (many!) times when you helped me out and i thank you
all for that.

I don't imagine that I will be coding much in my new role but who knows? I
have loved working with Access so you never know. if I ever again delve back
into databases then no doubt I will I will pop back for a visit.

Thanks everybody - 

warm regards
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From zora_db at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 17 05:06:11 2008
From: zora_db at yahoo.com (Roz Clarke)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 03:06:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] sign off
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Message-ID: <778713.63629.qm@web50107.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Bye Kath, and best wishes for the future. Thank you for *your* help!

Roz



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All the very best in the new job Kath. You'll be missed here.

Andy Lacey


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Hi listers - Please forgive the OT but just a final goodbye as I am starting
my new role as an employee - (aaarrrgghh! scary stuff after working for
myself for the last decade!). 

I am going to be starting a role as Business Analyst back in the finance
industry here in Melbourne - 

I have had so much help from you all over the years and have loved lurking
and participating in the list - it's? a great community with some wonderful
people. There were many (many!) times when you helped me out and i thank you
all for that.

I don't imagine that I will be coding much in my new role but who knows? I
have loved working with Access so you never know. if I ever again delve back
into databases then no doubt I will I will pop back for a visit.

Thanks everybody - 

warm regards
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From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Mon Nov 17 07:16:19 2008
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:16:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] sign off
In-Reply-To: <00ca01c94850$71ba0610$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP>
References: <00ca01c94850$71ba0610$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP>
Message-ID: <49216EA3.1070209@torchlake.com>

Sorry to see you leave, Kath.  Your good advice has often helped me.  
You will be missed.  Best wishes for your new venture.
Tina

Kath Pelletti wrote:
> Hi listers - Please forgive the OT but just a final goodbye as I am starting my new role as an employee - (aaarrrgghh! scary stuff after working for myself for the last decade!). 
>
> I am going to be starting a role as Business Analyst back in the finance industry here in Melbourne - 
>
> I have had so much help from you all over the years and have loved lurking and participating in the list - it's  a great community with some wonderful people. There were many (many!) times when you helped me out and i thank you all for that.
>
> I don't imagine that I will be coding much in my new role but who knows? I have loved working with Access so you never know. if I ever again delve back into databases then no doubt I will I will pop back for a visit.
>
> Thanks everybody - 
>
> warm regards
> Kath Pelletti
>   


From markamatte at hotmail.com  Mon Nov 17 08:03:07 2008
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:03:07 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing Capabilities
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-W34A22874EBF8B4F0A2547BD2160@phx.gbl>
References: <002301c9468b$094eafc0$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2>
	<BAY127-W34A22874EBF8B4F0A2547BD2160@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY127-W149D84AB6605E04B9AE119D2130@phx.gbl>


I left 1 piece of info out...I wanted the same type of events to fire for each object type...so I wrote some code that used the name of each object to determine what function to call...and used a naming convention religiously.  When a certain object was clicked...the border(a label) would change color...and a lookup would count and display on on the object how many records were associated with the table.  So for each object I had 3 things.Example:
 
Text box---tbPool01
Label---lbPool01
Image---imPool01
 
Text box---tbBoot01
Label---lbBoot01
Image---imBoot01
 
So when you clicked on an object(image) it would pass its name to the function...parse the name...then depending on what 'kind' it was ('boot','pool','stoo'' etc)...Mid([MyName],3,4)...would do specific things to that images corresponding  text box and lable.
 
Using this type of naming...allowed me to store the names and positions of all objects in a table, loop through all items when the form opened and positioning them according to the data in the table....giving the user a way to move items around(UP,DOWN,RIGHT,LEFT buttons adding and subtracting TWIPS) on the screen and basically customizing it for their use.(even worked in an MDE).
 
Good Luck,
 
Mark A. Mattesh what you are looking for.> > Good luck.> > Mark A. Matte> From: paul_lifopro at cox.net> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:58:52 -0600> Subject: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing Capabilities> > I'm volunteering my time to work on a small system for a non-profit> organization.> > > > The organization has an Expo every year and they have been keeping track of> the exhibitors, booth space and donated items using Excel. While this> works, its pretty time consuming and inefficient.> > > > I have the DB, Forms and reports pretty well finished. What I need help on> is how to create a diagram/chart of how the booths are set up in the> building. It seems like I should be able to interface Access and maybe> Visio to get this done.> > > > Ideally, I'd like to draw he booth setup on a form and then somehow let the> people click on a booth and have a modal form come up and show the> information about the booth i.e. size, is it taken, is it a premium booth,> etc.> > > > I've googled every key word I can think of !> but haven't been able to find any> examples.> > > > Any help would be appreciated.> > > > Thanks> > > > Paul> > -- > AccessD mailing list> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com> _________________________________________________________________> Windows Live Hotmail now works up to 70% faster.> http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_faster_112008> -- > AccessD mailing list> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Mon Nov 17 08:55:32 2008
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:55:32 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
References: <027f01c94664$350d5570$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
	<aea6c4950811141700h1eeaecexaab5bc417a4a1f54@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <096601c948c4$8b5bf820$2f8601c7@SusanOne>

It does appear that people are slow to upgrade this time -- more so than any 
other that I can remember.

Susan H.


> Not ignoring you.. just only use A2007 at home on a very limited
> basis. We still ise 2003 version at work with no plan to move..



From garykjos at gmail.com  Mon Nov 17 09:25:25 2008
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:25:25 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
In-Reply-To: <096601c948c4$8b5bf820$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
References: <027f01c94664$350d5570$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
	<aea6c4950811141700h1eeaecexaab5bc417a4a1f54@mail.gmail.com>
	<096601c948c4$8b5bf820$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950811170725g26d65a6chc7647e5159b1750d@mail.gmail.com>

The complete change of interface necessitating a lot of relearning is
one reason I would think. With all the other prior office version you
could pretty much upgrade and be just as productive with the new as
with the old right from the start. Not so with 2007. It may very well
be that the new interface is better but I just don't have time to
learn where stuff is now, I need to get stuff done. If they had kept
an option to use "classic menus" it would have been more widely
accepted.

I was just messing with Access 2007 last night because I am needing to
create some address labels. the database I am using was originally an
Access 97 database that was then updated to 2000 format but last
updated by A2002 (XP). When I went to preview the address label report
it first came up in single column rather than in teh 3 columns my
label stock is. It took me at several minutes to get the thing in
design view and then find the page setup and finally saw that it WAS
already in 3 column format but for some reason it jsut didn't show
when I first looked at it. If I told it to print preview from design
view it showed three columns.... Grrrr. So I printed the labels and
they came out fine. So then I went to exit and when i tried to close
the report it asked me if I wanted to save the changes and I said yes
and it asked me if I wanted to save the changes and i said yes
----repeat 10 times - I eventually said NO and it closed. Grrr #2.  I
ended up going back to my older system where the original Access
database was and I printed the labels from there too. I see that some
of the addresses on teh A2007 version have been updated and the ones
on the A2002 version have not, but some of them don't exist at all on
the A2007 version either. So I have a mess pretty much now to figure
out which labels to use.

GK

On 11/17/08, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> It does appear that people are slow to upgrade this time -- more so than any
> other that I can remember.
>
> Susan H.
>
>
> > Not ignoring you.. just only use A2007 at home on a very limited
> > basis. We still ise 2003 version at work with no plan to move..
>
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From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru  Mon Nov 17 09:25:56 2008
From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:25:56 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
In-Reply-To: <096601c948c4$8b5bf820$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <000101c948c8$ca57caa0$6401a8c0@nant>

Trying to use MS Access 2007 these days - just as a development support tool
- so far so good and I'm getting accustomed to the ribbon but I must say
that the new design of database window and tabbed interface drive me crazy:
yes, I know I can switch it off to overlapped windows but I'm trying to
realize could that be of good use for developers or not - I should be
missing something...

--
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 5:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey

It does appear that people are slow to upgrade this time -- more so than any

other that I can remember.

Susan H.


> Not ignoring you.. just only use A2007 at home on a very limited
> basis. We still ise 2003 version at work with no plan to move..

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From DWUTKA at Marlow.com  Mon Nov 17 09:58:31 2008
From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:58:31 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB
In-Reply-To: <053001c946f2$62b79c40$2826d4c0$@com>
Message-ID: <A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B201CDF6F1@MIEXCH.marlow.ii-vi.net>

So what kind of code are you looking for to get there?  Just the basic
logged in user stuff, or do you want some code to query/authenticate
against AD?

Drew

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lawrence
Mrazek
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 1:19 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB

Hi Drew:

Thanks for the great response; it really helped bring everything into
focus.


I might only need to query against Active Directory, so a common user
framework running on all of their apps might do the trick.

Larry Mrazek
ph. 314-432-5886
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 3:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB

Ok, you asked, so sit back and read.  I am not going to include any code
at
this point, because there would be too much to throw at you at once!

To start with, there are a few ways to get AD information.  The easiest
and
least code intensive is to just go off of NT User name (or Active
Directory
Account name).  To retrieve this name, is a very simple function (just a
few
lines of code).  You can also retrieve the name of the domain you are on
with a simple line of code too.  So if you just want to know that jsmith
on
MyCompany domain is getting into your database, you can use those two
simple
functions to verify that.

HOWEVER, the steps above are going to go off of the credentials of the
user
currently logged into the machine.  It will even work if the user is
technically 'offline', because the functions for those will go off of
the
local machine's cached credentials.  This is usually as far as most
Access
developers will go to integrate their systems with Active Directory.

However, if you want to go further, you can actually 'query' Active
Directory.  Querying AD is a little different then Access Queries.  The
language is a bit different, different qualifiers, structure, etc.
However, by querying AD, you can get a list of all current users,
groups,
group membership, etc.  You can also 'authenticate' a user against
Active
directory.  I have a function that will do that if you provide the
username
and password.  

So, if you truly want to make a system that is integrated with Active
Directory, I would build a 'user framework'.  I do this with a global
user
class.  When it initializes, it gets all the current user information
based
off of the logged in user, but it can be changed to represent another
user
through the authentication method I described earlier.  All
functions/features are then verified through this class.

I will caution you, however, that while Access is a great RAD tool, when
it
is used as a Front End, it is less then secure.  I personally have never
used AD integration with an Access FE, I have used it with a VB FE and
with
Web based front ends, where the database is not directly available to
the
users.  So if you are looking to use AD integration as a simple method
of
user administration, go ahead, but if you are planning on user AD
integration for security purposes, I would recommend a different
platform
for your front end.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lawrence
Mrazek
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 1:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB

Hi Folks:

Is it possible to use Active Directory to login to an Access DB (XP in
this
case)? Can I access the current AD username and groups via VBA code?

I'm just trying to see what's possible in this area right now and if
anyone
is using this functionality in their apps. 

Thanks in advance. 

Larry Mrazek
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Nov 17 10:09:01 2008
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:09:01 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
Message-ID: <s921a54f.033@cactus.dk>

Hi Susan

I have Office 2007 installed both at work and at home. Problem is, I believe, that working with databases - indeed development - is so much different from working with document style apps like Word, Excel and PowerPoint, and that the MS Office team just hasn't (or will not) realize this. 

My "proof" for this is, that recently I had to work with PP for the first time so I went to PP2007 to check it out, and - much to my surprise - I found that the ribbon works very well for that type of work ... choosing fonts, colours, layout style etc. was a snap.

On the other hand, even when I as the rest of you know Access very well, I constantly find myself fooling around the ribbon to get things done. Left, right, here and there, and the SQL view of a query is several clicks away instead of one. You are mostly working with objects and the ribbon is a bad solution for this. 
Further, the new default table layout (don't even know the name for it, "semi-design", "quasi-design" or "design/display", who knows?) drives me crazy as I every time I watch it wonder why I can't figure it out. I mean, who wants as the default action to "Add a new field" to an existing table. This shows that the UI design teams just doesn't know how tables are handled in real life. A table is _not_ a spreadsheet.

The tiny Quick Launch toolbar is a joke, violating the basic idea of the ribbon. It is there for one reason only: As an excuse to those users who wish to abandon the ribbon. Now these can build there own custom menu to get things done. "But don't make it too big, guys; it must not catch attention!"

/gustav


>>> shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru 17-11-2008 16:25 >>>
Trying to use MS Access 2007 these days - just as a development support tool
- so far so good and I'm getting accustomed to the ribbon but I must say
that the new design of database window and tabbed interface drive me crazy:
yes, I know I can switch it off to overlapped windows but I'm trying to
realize could that be of good use for developers or not - I should be
missing something...

--
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 5:56 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey

It does appear that people are slow to upgrade this time -- more so than any other that I can remember.

Susan H.


> Not ignoring you.. just only use A2007 at home on a very limited
> basis. We still ise 2003 version at work with no plan to move..




From ssharkins at gmail.com  Mon Nov 17 10:21:44 2008
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:21:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
References: <s921a54f.033@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <0a4701c948d0$9693b5f0$2f8601c7@SusanOne>

> The tiny Quick Launch toolbar is a joke, violating the basic idea of the 
> ribbon. It is there for one reason only: As an excuse to those users who 
> wish to abandon the ribbon. Now these can build there own custom menu to 
> get things done. "But don't make it too big, guys; it must not catch 
> attention!"

=======Well, I like the Quick Access toolbar, but for the very reason you 
stated. I've found several commands that aren't even ON the ribbon <groan>. 
I can't but wonder if they mean to drop those commands in future versions.

I suppose I should restate the question, in lieu of the responses -- what 
commands do you miss/ are out of place/hard to find/or just not available? 
When I hit a snag like this, I just add it to the QAT because I know it will 
continue to hinder my work.

Susan H. 



From paul_lifopro at cox.net  Mon Nov 17 12:28:48 2008
From: paul_lifopro at cox.net (paul_lifopro)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:28:48 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing Capabilities
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-W149D84AB6605E04B9AE119D2130@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <013901c948e2$554e8db0$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2>

Mark,

This would probably work for me.

Would it be possible for me to get a copy of the code you used?  I'm not
very familiar with the mouseup and down event.

Thanks very much for you help.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark A Matte [mailto:markamatte at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 8:03 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing Capabilities


I left 1 piece of info out...I wanted the same type of events to fire for
each object type...so I wrote some code that used the name of each object to
determine what function to call...and used a naming convention religiously.
When a certain object was clicked...the border(a label) would change
color...and a lookup would count and display on on the object how many
records were associated with the table.  So for each object I had 3
things.Example:
 
Text box---tbPool01
Label---lbPool01
Image---imPool01
 
Text box---tbBoot01
Label---lbBoot01
Image---imBoot01
 
So when you clicked on an object(image) it would pass its name to the
function...parse the name...then depending on what 'kind' it was
('boot','pool','stoo'' etc)...Mid([MyName],3,4)...would do specific things
to that images corresponding  text box and lable.
 
Using this type of naming...allowed me to store the names and positions of
all objects in a table, loop through all items when the form opened and
positioning them according to the data in the table....giving the user a way
to move items around(UP,DOWN,RIGHT,LEFT buttons adding and subtracting
TWIPS) on the screen and basically customizing it for their use.(even worked
in an MDE).
 
Good Luck,
 
Mark A. Mattesh what you are looking for.> > Good luck.> > Mark A. Matte>
From: paul_lifopro at cox.net> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Date: Fri, 14
Nov 2008 12:58:52 -0600> Subject: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing Capabilities>
> I'm volunteering my time to work on a small system for a non-profit>
organization.> > > > The organization has an Expo every year and they have
been keeping track of> the exhibitors, booth space and donated items using
Excel. While this> works, its pretty time consuming and inefficient.> > > >
I have the DB, Forms and reports pretty well finished. What I need help on>
is how to create a diagram/chart of how the booths are set up in the>
building. It seems like I should be able to interface Access and maybe>
Visio to get this done.> > > > Ideally, I'd like to draw he booth setup on a
form and then somehow let the> people click on a booth and have a modal form
come up and show the> information about the booth i.e. size, is it taken, is
it a premium booth,> etc.> > > > I've googled every key word I can think of
!> but haven't been able to find any> examples.> > > > Any help would be
appreciated.> > > > Thanks> > > > Paul> > -- > AccessD mailing list>
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From kost36 at otenet.gr  Mon Nov 17 13:58:36 2008
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:58:36 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Concatenating question...
References: <002301c9468b$094eafc0$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2><BAY127-W34A22874EBF8B4F0A2547BD2160@phx.gbl><BAY127-W149D84AB6605E04B9AE119D2130@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <A84BF5A5676E46FEAE13DA5C8FE5B069@kost36pc>

Hi group,
I am using a function created by Duane Hookom, 2003 about how to concatenate 
two fields in one to the following query

SELECT [Last_name] & " " & [Father_name] & " " & [First_name] AS onoma, 
T_ca_diagnosis.ca_diagnosis, RT_AM_metastaseis.kind_ca
FROM T_ca_diagnosis RIGHT JOIN (MT_basic_char INNER JOIN RT_AM_metastaseis 
ON MT_basic_char.AM = RT_AM_metastaseis.AM) ON T_ca_diagnosis.IDca_diagnosis 
= RT_AM_metastaseis.IDca_diagnosis;


What I want to do is to make a new field e.g. Diagnosis in which the data 
will appear concatenated like:

T_ca_diagnosis.ca_diagnosis01 (RT_AM_metastaseis.kind_ca01), 
T_ca_diagnosis.ca_diagnosis02 (RT_AM_metastaseis.kind_ca02), etc etc

The function is calling with:
Diagnosis: Concatenate("SELECT T_ca_diagnosis.ca_diagnosis & ' (' & 
RT_AM_metastaseis.kind_ca & ')' FROM ....... WHERE 
MT_basic_char.AM=RT_AM_metastaseis.AM]
and T_ca_diagnosis.IDca_diagnosis = RT_AM_metastaseis.IDca_diagnosis

But it doesn't work cause something is missing between FROM and WHERE and 
that's exactly the point I need your help...

Many thank's
/kostas


Function Concatenate(pstrSQL As String, _
        Optional pstrDelim As String = ", ") _
        As String
'Created by Duane Hookom, 2003
'this code may be included in any application/mdb providing
'   this statement is left intact

'======For DAO uncomment next 4 lines=======
'====== comment out ADO below =======
    'Dim db As DAO.Database
    'Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
    'Set db = CurrentDb
    'Set rs = db.OpenRecordset(pstrSQL)

'======For ADO uncomment next two lines=====
'====== comment out DAO above ======
    Dim rs As New ADODB.Recordset
    rs.Open pstrSQL, CurrentProject.Connection, _
    adOpenKeyset, adLockOptimistic
    Dim strConcat As String 'build return string
    With rs
        If Not .EOF Then
            .MoveFirst
            Do While Not .EOF
                strConcat = strConcat & _
                .Fields(0) & pstrDelim
                .MoveNext
            Loop
        End If
        .Close
    End With
    Set rs = Nothing
'====== uncomment next line for DAO ========
    'Set db = Nothing
    If Len(strConcat) > 0 Then
        strConcat = Left(strConcat, _
        Len(strConcat) - Len(pstrDelim))
    End If
    Concatenate = strConcat
End Function 



From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Nov 17 15:19:06 2008
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:19:06 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
In-Reply-To: <096601c948c4$8b5bf820$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
References: <027f01c94664$350d5570$2f8601c7@SusanOne>,
	<096601c948c4$8b5bf820$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <49226C6A.680.2AF5C3B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

So tell me, what could I do in Office 2007 that I can't do with 2003?

Can anyone give me a compelling reason to upgrade?



On 17 Nov 2008 at 9:55, Susan Harkins wrote:

> It does appear that people are slow to upgrade this time -- more so than any 
> other that I can remember.
> 
> Susan H.
> 
> 
> > Not ignoring you.. just only use A2007 at home on a very limited
> > basis. We still ise 2003 version at work with no plan to move..
> 
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Nov 17 15:30:45 2008
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:30:45 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
Message-ID: <s921f0b4.039@cactus.dk>

Hi Stuart

One compelling reason is to able to understand what the clients are talking about - because new installations are Office 2007 wether we like it or not.

For serious writing we stick with WordPro from the old Lotus SmartSuite. Nothing beats that.

/gustav


>>> stuart at lexacorp.com.pg 17-11-2008 22:19 >>>
So tell me, what could I do in Office 2007 that I can't do with 2003?

Can anyone give me a compelling reason to upgrade?



On 17 Nov 2008 at 9:55, Susan Harkins wrote:

> It does appear that people are slow to upgrade this time -- more so than any 
> other that I can remember.
> 
> Susan H.
> 
> 
> > Not ignoring you.. just only use A2007 at home on a very limited
> > basis. We still ise 2003 version at work with no plan to move..





From garykjos at gmail.com  Mon Nov 17 16:07:31 2008
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:07:31 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
In-Reply-To: <49226C6A.680.2AF5C3B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <027f01c94664$350d5570$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
	<096601c948c4$8b5bf820$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
	<49226C6A.680.2AF5C3B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950811171407o53956357s3c79156cf3f603f@mail.gmail.com>

You can have 1 million rows in an Excel 2007 file verses approx 65K in
an Excel 2003 file.

That alone would make me want it if my company allowed it.

GK

On 11/17/08, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:
> So tell me, what could I do in Office 2007 that I can't do with 2003?
>
> Can anyone give me a compelling reason to upgrade?
>
>
>
> On 17 Nov 2008 at 9:55, Susan Harkins wrote:
>
> > It does appear that people are slow to upgrade this time -- more so than any
> > other that I can remember.
> >
> > Susan H.
> >
> >
> > > Not ignoring you.. just only use A2007 at home on a very limited
> > > basis. We still ise 2003 version at work with no plan to move..
> >
> > --
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> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
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>


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From darren at activebilling.com.au  Mon Nov 17 16:28:18 2008
From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:28:18 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: SQL Trusted Connection Error to SQL Server 2000
In-Reply-To: <49219D5C.16347.863A93@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <008101c9487b$49098df0$0d1b910a@denzilnote>
	<49219D5C.16347.863A93@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <009701c94903$cb7df950$0d1b910a@denzilnote>

Hi Stuart

Yes this is the frustrating part - this user (this is why I think it is the
machine) is set up with admin credentials - Same as mine on the SQL DB. Even
when we pass the sa credentials in the ConnString on that machine it still gives
us this error. However this machine can start query analyser (with credentials
not trusted connection) with a command line same as me though - Interesting.

On my machine I can connect in both manners. With Trusted Connections = true in
the ConnString or with credentials in the ConnString - No issue either way on my
machine. But sa and my credentials (using the same ConnString) gives me this
error message and the subsequent logon screen.

Many thanks
 
Darren

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Monday, 17 November 2008 5:36 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003: SQL Trusted Connection Error to SQL Server 2000

Is the server set up for User AND Wndows authentication 

>From the error message, it looks as though it is set up to use Windows
authentication.
Does the *logged in user* on the problem machine have access rights to SomedB?


On 17 Nov 2008 at 17:11, Darren D wrote:

> Hi Team
> 
>  
> 
> I have one machine that regardless off what I do it just will not 'connect' to
> anything in our SQL Server Databases
> 
> I am running some on the fly pass through code for running queries etc in the
> SQL dB - (I can forward that if needed)
> 
>  
> 
> The passthrough code works like a charm on my machine but always always always
> fails on this one machine - I am convinced there is something setup or not
setup
> on that machine
> 
>  
> 
> Anyway even when I pass the user name and password in the connection string
for
> the SQL Connection it still fails (Debug.print below)
> 
>  
> 
> DEBUG.PRINT RESULTS OF THE CONNECTION STRING: ODBC;Driver={SQL
> Server};Server=OurServer;Database=SomedB; -u dd; -p xxx123xxx (credentials
> changed but you get the idea)
> 
>  
> 
> Error Message:
> 
>  
> 
> "Connection Failed"
> 
> SQL State: '28000'
> 
> SQL Server error; 18452 [Microsft] [ODBC SQL Server Driver] [SQL Server] Login
> failed for user '(null)'. Reason: not associated with a trusted SQL Server
> Connection 
> 
>  
> 
> So - It claims I am passing a null value in the connection string for the user
-
> but this is not true 
> 
> Then when the user clicks ok there is a small SQL server logon screen with the
> users name in the Username field
> 
> This is killing me - Any suggestions? - Anyone dealt with this before?
> 
>  
> 
> DD
> 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Nov 17 16:36:19 2008
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:36:19 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950811171407o53956357s3c79156cf3f603f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <027f01c94664$350d5570$2f8601c7@SusanOne><096601c948c4$8b5bf820$2f8601c7@SusanOne><49226C6A.680.2AF5C3B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<aea6c4950811171407o53956357s3c79156cf3f603f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEAB125DB@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

Think about what you're saying, Gary.  Would you really want to deal
with a million-row spreadsheet??  Yikes!

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey

You can have 1 million rows in an Excel 2007 file verses approx 65K in
an Excel 2003 file.

That alone would make me want it if my company allowed it.

GK

On 11/17/08, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:
> So tell me, what could I do in Office 2007 that I can't do with 2003?
>
> Can anyone give me a compelling reason to upgrade?
>
>
>
> On 17 Nov 2008 at 9:55, Susan Harkins wrote:
>
> > It does appear that people are slow to upgrade this time -- more so 
> > than any other that I can remember.
> >
> > Susan H.
> >
> >
> > > Not ignoring you.. just only use A2007 at home on a very limited 
> > > basis. We still ise 2003 version at work with no plan to move..
> >
> > --
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
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>


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From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au  Mon Nov 17 16:55:06 2008
From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:55:06 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
In-Reply-To: <096601c948c4$8b5bf820$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC272007ACD7DEDD@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au>


Apart from the re-training of many of the staff members where I work, we would have to replace/upgrade just about every PC in the place (and there are thousands and thousands of them).  This would be a massive expense that cannot be justified right now.  Then there is the issue of compatibility, especially having to get existing VBA driven apps checked to ensure the functionality is still working...

Frankly there is little to be gained and much to be risked at this point.  What is the benefit of upgrading? - not one that is convincing enough to be consider it.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, 18 November 2008 1:56 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey


It does appear that people are slow to upgrade this time -- more so than any
other that I can remember.

Susan H.


> Not ignoring you.. just only use A2007 at home on a very limited
> basis. We still ise 2003 version at work with no plan to move..

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Nov 17 16:57:52 2008
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:57:52 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: SQL Trusted Connection Error to SQL Server 2000
In-Reply-To: <009701c94903$cb7df950$0d1b910a@denzilnote>
References: <008101c9487b$49098df0$0d1b910a@denzilnote>,
	<49219D5C.16347.863A93@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<009701c94903$cb7df950$0d1b910a@denzilnote>
Message-ID: <49228390.738.2903DD@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

A couple things to look at: 

http://blog.benday.com/archive/2005/06/16/637.aspx 
<quote> Still nothing.  At this point, we've burned up a lot of time on something that should be 
totally easy.  Now I start wondering if it's a security problem because I kinda half remembered 
reading about distributed transaction problems between Windows 2000 and instances of 
SQL Server running on Windows 2003.    

None of it was really looking likely and at some point I started thinking about how SQL Server 
isn't supported on Windows 2003 under a certain service pack level.  What service pack is 
this server running anyway?  So, I fired up Query Analyzer and ran "SELECT @@VERSION".  
The version was "2000.80.194.0".   Quick skim of the build numbers listed online 
and...UNBELIEVABLE!  This thing hasn't been patched even ONCE!  

So, I upgraded to SQL Server Service Pack 4 and my problems went away. 
</quote>

OR

http://blogs.msdn.com/sql_protocols/archive/2005/09/28/474698.aspx
<quote>
 There is a space after server name in the connection string:
</quote>


On 18 Nov 2008 at 9:28, Darren D wrote:

> Hi Stuart
> 
> Yes this is the frustrating part - this user (this is why I think it is the
> machine) is set up with admin credentials - Same as mine on the SQL DB. Even
> when we pass the sa credentials in the ConnString on that machine it still gives
> us this error. However this machine can start query analyser (with credentials
> not trusted connection) with a command line same as me though - Interesting.
> 
> On my machine I can connect in both manners. With Trusted Connections = true in
> the ConnString or with credentials in the ConnString - No issue either way on my
> machine. But sa and my credentials (using the same ConnString) gives me this
> error message and the subsequent logon screen.
> 
> Many thanks
>  
> Darren
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: Monday, 17 November 2008 5:36 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003: SQL Trusted Connection Error to SQL Server 2000
> 
> Is the server set up for User AND Wndows authentication 
> 
> >From the error message, it looks as though it is set up to use Windows
> authentication.
> Does the *logged in user* on the problem machine have access rights to SomedB?
> 
> 
> On 17 Nov 2008 at 17:11, Darren D wrote:
> 
> > Hi Team
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I have one machine that regardless off what I do it just will not 'connect' to
> > anything in our SQL Server Databases
> > 
> > I am running some on the fly pass through code for running queries etc in the
> > SQL dB - (I can forward that if needed)
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > The passthrough code works like a charm on my machine but always always always
> > fails on this one machine - I am convinced there is something setup or not
> setup
> > on that machine
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Anyway even when I pass the user name and password in the connection string
> for
> > the SQL Connection it still fails (Debug.print below)
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > DEBUG.PRINT RESULTS OF THE CONNECTION STRING: ODBC;Driver={SQL
> > Server};Server=OurServer;Database=SomedB; -u dd; -p xxx123xxx (credentials
> > changed but you get the idea)
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Error Message:
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > "Connection Failed"
> > 
> > SQL State: '28000'
> > 
> > SQL Server error; 18452 [Microsft] [ODBC SQL Server Driver] [SQL Server] Login
> > failed for user '(null)'. Reason: not associated with a trusted SQL Server
> > Connection 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > So - It claims I am passing a null value in the connection string for the user
> -
> > but this is not true 
> > 
> > Then when the user clicks ok there is a small SQL server logon screen with the
> > users name in the Username field
> > 
> > This is killing me - Any suggestions? - Anyone dealt with this before?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > DD
> > 
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From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au  Mon Nov 17 17:05:24 2008
From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:05:24 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950811171407o53956357s3c79156cf3f603f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC272007ACD7DEDE@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au>


My experience with Excel and the common user is that most of them cannot use 65535 rows of data in a way that doesn't cause Excel to grind itself into a sreaming bloody mess, Excel 2007 can calc even slower so I  am very sceptical about the benefit of more rows.  It is just going to encourage bad design where the input data and output result are indentical.  Where you get massive volumes of data, hard coded into a fixed report, spread out over time, rather than tabulated and reported via pivot tables.

My god, can you imagine trying to Audit something like that???  What the hell where they thinking?

If you have a million rows of data, put in in SQL Server or similar and pull into excel just the data you need for your analysis.  A spreadsheet should be a reporting and/or analytical tool,  not where you store your source data.

I think MS have lost the plot. They have forgotten that Excel is a spreadsheet and Access is a database and tried to make them both into this bastardised hybrid monster.  Frankly I think they have made both products worse, not better.

bah, I must be getting old and grumpy - I am sounding like a luddite!!

If it wasn't VBA I would have given up on MS Office and gone to OO instead a while back.
<dismounts off high horse>
~time~for~a~coffee~
cheers
Darryl.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Tuesday, 18 November 2008 9:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey


You can have 1 million rows in an Excel 2007 file verses approx 65K in
an Excel 2003 file.

That alone would make me want it if my company allowed it.

GK

On 11/17/08, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:
> So tell me, what could I do in Office 2007 that I can't do with 2003?
>
> Can anyone give me a compelling reason to upgrade?
>
>
>
> On 17 Nov 2008 at 9:55, Susan Harkins wrote:
>
> > It does appear that people are slow to upgrade this time -- more so than any
> > other that I can remember.
> >
> > Susan H.
> >
> >
> > > Not ignoring you.. just only use A2007 at home on a very limited
> > > basis. We still ise 2003 version at work with no plan to move..
> >
> > --
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>
>
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From kp at sdsonline.net  Mon Nov 17 18:15:00 2008
From: kp at sdsonline.net (Kath Pelletti)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:15:00 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] sign off
Message-ID: <001401c94912$b46ef7a0$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP>

Thanks everyone for your wishes. 

______________________________________
Kath Pelletti


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Nov 17 17:27:49 2008
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:27:49 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
In-Reply-To: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC272007ACD7DEDE@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au>
References: <aea6c4950811171407o53956357s3c79156cf3f603f@mail.gmail.com>,
	<57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC272007ACD7DEDE@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au>
Message-ID: <49228A95.1845.446ED2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

My sentiments exactly!

On 18 Nov 2008 at 10:05, Darryl Collins wrote:
> 
> If it wasn't VBA I would have given up on MS Office and gone to OO instead a while back.



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Nov 17 17:29:51 2008
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:29:51 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
In-Reply-To: <57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC272007ACD7DEDE@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au>
References: <aea6c4950811171407o53956357s3c79156cf3f603f@mail.gmail.com>
	<57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC272007ACD7DEDE@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEAB125DD@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

Now, now, Darryl, remember your blood pressure. LOL

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl
Collins
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 3:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey


My experience with Excel and the common user is that most of them cannot
use 65535 rows of data in a way that doesn't cause Excel to grind itself
into a sreaming bloody mess, Excel 2007 can calc even slower so I  am
very sceptical about the benefit of more rows.  It is just going to
encourage bad design where the input data and output result are
indentical.  Where you get massive volumes of data, hard coded into a
fixed report, spread out over time, rather than tabulated and reported
via pivot tables.

My god, can you imagine trying to Audit something like that???  What the
hell where they thinking?

If you have a million rows of data, put in in SQL Server or similar and
pull into excel just the data you need for your analysis.  A spreadsheet
should be a reporting and/or analytical tool,  not where you store your
source data.

I think MS have lost the plot. They have forgotten that Excel is a
spreadsheet and Access is a database and tried to make them both into
this bastardised hybrid monster.  Frankly I think they have made both
products worse, not better.

bah, I must be getting old and grumpy - I am sounding like a luddite!!

If it wasn't VBA I would have given up on MS Office and gone to OO
instead a while back.
<dismounts off high horse>
~time~for~a~coffee~
cheers
Darryl.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Tuesday, 18 November 2008 9:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey


You can have 1 million rows in an Excel 2007 file verses approx 65K in
an Excel 2003 file.

That alone would make me want it if my company allowed it.

GK

On 11/17/08, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:
> So tell me, what could I do in Office 2007 that I can't do with 2003?
>
> Can anyone give me a compelling reason to upgrade?
>
>
>
> On 17 Nov 2008 at 9:55, Susan Harkins wrote:
>
> > It does appear that people are slow to upgrade this time -- more so 
> > than any other that I can remember.
> >
> > Susan H.
> >
> >
> > > Not ignoring you.. just only use A2007 at home on a very limited 
> > > basis. We still ise 2003 version at work with no plan to move..
> >
> > --



From darren at activebilling.com.au  Mon Nov 17 18:31:10 2008
From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:31:10 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] WAY OT: Brains Trust Q - Slow SQL Server 2005
Message-ID: <00de01c94914$f744e1f0$0d1b910a@denzilnote>

Hi All

Please forgive the WAY OT Post but I need access to the Brains trust and I know
a lot of you are SQL/VMWare gurus

As this is a way OT post - feel free to respond to me off line to: darren at
activebilling dot com dot au

Moderators feel free to tell me to take it away

 

We have a Dell server running Linux as the OS (Running Ubuntu I think)

On this Linux server we have a VM Session running Windows Server as the OS

On this VM Session we have our instance of SQL Server 2005 - And it is running
like a slug.

 

For instance - We copied a live and running SQL 2000 dB onto this SQL 2005 setup
and started running comparisons against each on a large table and the results
were awful. 

We started connecting our app to it as well and the results were even worse
(About 12 minutes to open a relatively simple screen) 

Whereas the same app connected to the live and running SQL 2000 version runs as
expected 

 

Can anyone advise if this multi layer OS/VM Setup is the likely culprit for the
go slow? 

Does anyone know of sure fire things to change and even some things to try or
gotchas?

Also do we know of any analyser tools that we could test the Linux/VM Session
config to see if that level is the culprit before we dig into the SQL 2005
setup?

And anything else you can recommend

 

Many many questions -

 

Thanks heaps in advance team - Apologies again for the OT :-)

 

DD

 



From davidmcafee at gmail.com  Mon Nov 17 18:40:08 2008
From: davidmcafee at gmail.com (David McAfee)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:40:08 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
In-Reply-To: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEAB125DD@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>
References: <aea6c4950811171407o53956357s3c79156cf3f603f@mail.gmail.com>
	<57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC272007ACD7DEDE@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au>
	<F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEAB125DD@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <8786a4c00811171640i6c6066eco103a3faf48cee8cf@mail.gmail.com>

haha. I guess I'm not the only one that feels this way :)

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com
> wrote:

> Now, now, Darryl, remember your blood pressure. LOL
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl
> Collins
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 3:05 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey
>
>
> My experience with Excel and the common user is that most of them cannot
> use 65535 rows of data in a way that doesn't cause Excel to grind itself
> into a sreaming bloody mess, Excel 2007 can calc even slower so I  am
> very sceptical about the benefit of more rows.  It is just going to
> encourage bad design where the input data and output result are
> indentical.  Where you get massive volumes of data, hard coded into a
> fixed report, spread out over time, rather than tabulated and reported
> via pivot tables.
>
> My god, can you imagine trying to Audit something like that???  What the
> hell where they thinking?
>
> If you have a million rows of data, put in in SQL Server or similar and
> pull into excel just the data you need for your analysis.  A spreadsheet
> should be a reporting and/or analytical tool,  not where you store your
> source data.
>
> I think MS have lost the plot. They have forgotten that Excel is a
> spreadsheet and Access is a database and tried to make them both into
> this bastardised hybrid monster.  Frankly I think they have made both
> products worse, not better.
>
> bah, I must be getting old and grumpy - I am sounding like a luddite!!
>
> If it wasn't VBA I would have given up on MS Office and gone to OO
> instead a while back.
> <dismounts off high horse>
> ~time~for~a~coffee~
> cheers
> Darryl.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 November 2008 9:08 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey
>
>
> You can have 1 million rows in an Excel 2007 file verses approx 65K in
> an Excel 2003 file.
>
> That alone would make me want it if my company allowed it.
>
> GK
>
> On 11/17/08, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:
> > So tell me, what could I do in Office 2007 that I can't do with 2003?
> >
> > Can anyone give me a compelling reason to upgrade?
> >
> >
> >
> > On 17 Nov 2008 at 9:55, Susan Harkins wrote:
> >
> > > It does appear that people are slow to upgrade this time -- more so
> > > than any other that I can remember.
> > >
> > > Susan H.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Not ignoring you.. just only use A2007 at home on a very limited
> > > > basis. We still ise 2003 version at work with no plan to move..
> > >
> > > --
>
> --
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>


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Nov 17 18:58:25 2008
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:58:25 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] WAY OT: Brains Trust Q - Slow SQL Server 2005
In-Reply-To: <00de01c94914$f744e1f0$0d1b910a@denzilnote>
References: <00de01c94914$f744e1f0$0d1b910a@denzilnote>
Message-ID: <49229FD1.24216.97625B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

First thing I'd look at is the amount of memory you have allocated for your VM.

Running SQL Server on Windows Server, you'll need at least a couple of Gigs of memory 
dedicated to it.

On 18 Nov 2008 at 11:31, Darren D wrote:

> Hi All
> 
> Please forgive the WAY OT Post but I need access to the Brains trust and I know
> a lot of you are SQL/VMWare gurus
> 
> As this is a way OT post - feel free to respond to me off line to: darren at
> activebilling dot com dot au
> 
> Moderators feel free to tell me to take it away
> 
>  
> 
> We have a Dell server running Linux as the OS (Running Ubuntu I think)
> 
> On this Linux server we have a VM Session running Windows Server as the OS
> 
> On this VM Session we have our instance of SQL Server 2005 - And it is running
> like a slug.
> 
>  
> 
> For instance - We copied a live and running SQL 2000 dB onto this SQL 2005 setup
> and started running comparisons against each on a large table and the results
> were awful. 
> 
> We started connecting our app to it as well and the results were even worse
> (About 12 minutes to open a relatively simple screen) 
> 
> Whereas the same app connected to the live and running SQL 2000 version runs as
> expected 
> 
>  
> 
> Can anyone advise if this multi layer OS/VM Setup is the likely culprit for the
> go slow? 
> 
> Does anyone know of sure fire things to change and even some things to try or
> gotchas?
> 
> Also do we know of any analyser tools that we could test the Linux/VM Session
> config to see if that level is the culprit before we dig into the SQL 2005
> setup?
> 
> And anything else you can recommend
> 
>  
> 
> Many many questions -
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks heaps in advance team - Apologies again for the OT :-)
> 
>  
> 
> DD
> 
>  
> 
> -- 
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> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com




From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Nov 17 19:22:08 2008
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:22:08 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] sign off
In-Reply-To: <00ca01c94850$71ba0610$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP>
References: <00ca01c94850$71ba0610$6401a8c0@DELLAPTOP>
Message-ID: <341ED3EE438241B7AA0BDFF89A35F35F@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Congratulations, Kath.

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath Pelletti
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 5:04 PM
To: Access D Normal List
Subject: [AccessD] sign off

Hi listers - Please forgive the OT but just a final goodbye as I am starting
my new role as an employee - (aaarrrgghh! scary stuff after working for
myself for the last decade!). 

I am going to be starting a role as Business Analyst back in the finance
industry here in Melbourne - 

I have had so much help from you all over the years and have loved lurking
and participating in the list - it's  a great community with some wonderful
people. There were many (many!) times when you helped me out and i thank you
all for that.

I don't imagine that I will be coding much in my new role but who knows? I
have loved working with Access so you never know. if I ever again delve back
into databases then no doubt I will I will pop back for a visit.

Thanks everybody - 

warm regards
Kath Pelletti
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From darren at activebilling.com.au  Mon Nov 17 19:24:17 2008
From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:24:17 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003: SQL Trusted Connection Error to SQL Server 2000
In-Reply-To: <49228390.738.2903DD@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <008101c9487b$49098df0$0d1b910a@denzilnote>,
	<49219D5C.16347.863A93@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<009701c94903$cb7df950$0d1b910a@denzilnote>
	<49228390.738.2903DD@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <00ec01c9491c$626e7d90$0d1b910a@denzilnote>

Hi Stuart

Are you the only one on line today? - Thanks for all the responses
I have downloaded SP4 (I think) and will apply it and let you know - We were
only up to SP2 :-(

Many thanks
 
Darren

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Tuesday, 18 November 2008 9:58 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003: SQL Trusted Connection Error to SQL Server 2000

A couple things to look at: 

http://blog.benday.com/archive/2005/06/16/637.aspx 
<quote> Still nothing.  At this point, we've burned up a lot of time on
something that should be 
totally easy.  Now I start wondering if it's a security problem because I kinda
half remembered 
reading about distributed transaction problems between Windows 2000 and
instances of 
SQL Server running on Windows 2003.    

None of it was really looking likely and at some point I started thinking about
how SQL Server 
isn't supported on Windows 2003 under a certain service pack level.  What
service pack is 
this server running anyway?  So, I fired up Query Analyzer and ran "SELECT
@@VERSION".  
The version was "2000.80.194.0".   Quick skim of the build numbers listed online

and...UNBELIEVABLE!  This thing hasn't been patched even ONCE!  

So, I upgraded to SQL Server Service Pack 4 and my problems went away. 
</quote>

OR

http://blogs.msdn.com/sql_protocols/archive/2005/09/28/474698.aspx
<quote>
 There is a space after server name in the connection string:
</quote>


On 18 Nov 2008 at 9:28, Darren D wrote:

> Hi Stuart
> 
> Yes this is the frustrating part - this user (this is why I think it is the
> machine) is set up with admin credentials - Same as mine on the SQL DB. Even
> when we pass the sa credentials in the ConnString on that machine it still
gives
> us this error. However this machine can start query analyser (with credentials
> not trusted connection) with a command line same as me though - Interesting.
> 
> On my machine I can connect in both manners. With Trusted Connections = true
in
> the ConnString or with credentials in the ConnString - No issue either way on
my
> machine. But sa and my credentials (using the same ConnString) gives me this
> error message and the subsequent logon screen.
> 
> Many thanks
>  
> Darren
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: Monday, 17 November 2008 5:36 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003: SQL Trusted Connection Error to SQL Server 2000
> 
> Is the server set up for User AND Wndows authentication 
> 
> >From the error message, it looks as though it is set up to use Windows
> authentication.
> Does the *logged in user* on the problem machine have access rights to SomedB?
> 
> 
> On 17 Nov 2008 at 17:11, Darren D wrote:
> 
> > Hi Team
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I have one machine that regardless off what I do it just will not 'connect'
to
> > anything in our SQL Server Databases
> > 
> > I am running some on the fly pass through code for running queries etc in
the
> > SQL dB - (I can forward that if needed)
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > The passthrough code works like a charm on my machine but always always
always
> > fails on this one machine - I am convinced there is something setup or not
> setup
> > on that machine
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Anyway even when I pass the user name and password in the connection string
> for
> > the SQL Connection it still fails (Debug.print below)
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > DEBUG.PRINT RESULTS OF THE CONNECTION STRING: ODBC;Driver={SQL
> > Server};Server=OurServer;Database=SomedB; -u dd; -p xxx123xxx (credentials
> > changed but you get the idea)
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Error Message:
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > "Connection Failed"
> > 
> > SQL State: '28000'
> > 
> > SQL Server error; 18452 [Microsft] [ODBC SQL Server Driver] [SQL Server]
Login
> > failed for user '(null)'. Reason: not associated with a trusted SQL Server
> > Connection 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > So - It claims I am passing a null value in the connection string for the
user
> -
> > but this is not true 
> > 
> > Then when the user clicks ok there is a small SQL server logon screen with
the
> > users name in the Username field
> > 
> > This is killing me - Any suggestions? - Anyone dealt with this before?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > DD
> > 
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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Mon Nov 17 21:28:39 2008
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:28:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
References: <aea6c4950811171407o53956357s3c79156cf3f603f@mail.gmail.com>,
	<57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC272007ACD7DEDE@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au>
	<49228A95.1845.446ED2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <BF3264A81EF24E1284A061D9A7AB4570@jislaptopdev>

...not to beat a dead horse but after playing with both Office 2007 and 
Vista, I'm of the firm opinion that Microsoft is a corporate dead horse 
waiting for some fresh young mare to replace it ...how in the hell with all 
that user and developer input they supposedly got, and all the beta testing 
they did, could they come out with their two new major cash cows both mooing 
for mercy ...I swear to god it reminds me of some of the products produced 
by government bureaucrats in the early days of ADA when design by committee 
was the law of the land.

...and then there is Visual Studio 2008 and C# and you have to think they 
were produced by an entirely different company, one that listens to and 
understands developers and how we work ...I know its wishful thinking but 
dear god in heaven, can you imagine the next version of Access redesigned 
and coded from the ground up by the Visual Studio development team? ...hell 
they might even pry Access 2003 from my cold dead hands for such a thing!

William


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 6:27 PM
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey

> My sentiments exactly!
>
> On 18 Nov 2008 at 10:05, Darryl Collins wrote:
>>
>> If it wasn't VBA I would have given up on MS Office and gone to OO 
>> instead a while back.
>
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 18 00:51:32 2008
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:51:32 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
Message-ID: <s9227428.040@cactus.dk>

Hi Gary

Why? Excel is not to be used as a database (according to MS - as the main argument for pushing Access to users of Excel).

/gustav


>>> garykjos at gmail.com 17-11-2008 23:07 >>>
You can have 1 million rows in an Excel 2007 file verses approx 65K in
an Excel 2003 file.

That alone would make me want it if my company allowed it.

GK

On 11/17/08, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:
> So tell me, what could I do in Office 2007 that I can't do with 2003?
>
> Can anyone give me a compelling reason to upgrade?
>
>
>
> On 17 Nov 2008 at 9:55, Susan Harkins wrote:
>
> > It does appear that people are slow to upgrade this time -- more so than any
> > other that I can remember.
> >
> > Susan H.
> >
> >
> > > Not ignoring you.. just only use A2007 at home on a very limited
> > > basis. We still ise 2003 version at work with no plan to move..





From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru  Tue Nov 18 00:52:01 2008
From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:52:01 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Cottage renting web sites samples
Message-ID: <000201c9494a$2c21ccf0$6401a8c0@nant>

Hi All,

I'm looking for samples of cottages renting web sites - relatively small,
user-friendly, and functional, looking attractive and tempting to rent
advertised cottage(s) immediately, and run, ride, drive, fly there for
vacations - something like this one:

http://www.hookipabayview.com/index.html 

:)

Any samples would be very helpful here and would be very much appreciated.

The above site looks good but the one, which I'm looking for should have
pages fitting 1024x768 or even 800x600 screen resolutions still having all
the attributes listed above: relatively small, user-friendly, functional,...

Looking for some ideas for a probable cottage renting small web site
project...

Thank you.

--
Shamil






From bbruen at unwired.com.au  Tue Nov 18 00:55:28 2008
From: bbruen at unwired.com.au (Bruce)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:55:28 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] WAY OT: Brains Trust Q - Slow SQL Server 2005
In-Reply-To: <49229FD1.24216.97625B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <00de01c94914$f744e1f0$0d1b910a@denzilnote>
	<49229FD1.24216.97625B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <200811181755.29352.bbruen@unwired.com.au>

What Stuart said and even more to allow the VM some elbow room.
Secondly is it really VMWare?  I didn't thimk there was a linux version.
I have found that one weak area for VM environments on linux (and I've used a 
few) is the networking passthrough.  It takes some fine tweaking to get the 
networking passtthroughs tuned properly.
Finally, why SQLServer? Surely youd get better performance from postgresQL  or 
(shudder) MySQL.  In fact I've usually found postgreQL server faster than 
SQLServer on raw platforms.
hth
Bruce
On Tuesday 18 November 2008 11:58:25 Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> First thing I'd look at is the amount of memory you have allocated for your
> VM.
>
> Running SQL Server on Windows Server, you'll need at least a couple of Gigs
> of memory dedicated to it.
>
> On 18 Nov 2008 at 11:31, Darren D wrote:
> > Hi All
> >
> > Please forgive the WAY OT Post but I need access to the Brains trust and
> > I know a lot of you are SQL/VMWare gurus
> >
> > As this is a way OT post - feel free to respond to me off line to: darren
> > at activebilling dot com dot au
> >
> > Moderators feel free to tell me to take it away
> >
> >
> >
> > We have a Dell server running Linux as the OS (Running Ubuntu I think)
> >
> > On this Linux server we have a VM Session running Windows Server as the
> > OS
> >
> > On this VM Session we have our instance of SQL Server 2005 - And it is
> > running like a slug.
> >
> >
> >
> > For instance - We copied a live and running SQL 2000 dB onto this SQL
> > 2005 setup and started running comparisons against each on a large table
> > and the results were awful.
> >
> > We started connecting our app to it as well and the results were even
> > worse (About 12 minutes to open a relatively simple screen)
> >
> > Whereas the same app connected to the live and running SQL 2000 version
> > runs as expected
> >
> >
> >
> > Can anyone advise if this multi layer OS/VM Setup is the likely culprit
> > for the go slow?
> >
> > Does anyone know of sure fire things to change and even some things to
> > try or gotchas?
> >
> > Also do we know of any analyser tools that we could test the Linux/VM
> > Session config to see if that level is the culprit before we dig into the
> > SQL 2005 setup?
> >
> > And anything else you can recommend
> >
> >
> >
> > Many many questions -
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks heaps in advance team - Apologies again for the OT :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > DD
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 18 01:11:40 2008
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:11:40 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] WAY OT: Brains Trust Q - Slow SQL Server 2005
Message-ID: <s92278dd.041@cactus.dk>

Hi Darren

As already mentioned, look for more ram. Also, it is the VMware Server you are running, right?. Not the desktop thing?
Further, check the usage of CPUs. The free VMware Server supports only one CPU but may be set to emulate two. It so, and if not the SQL Server Express version which only will use one CPU, your SQL Server may see two CPUs and will try to use these which, of course, is a joke.

Finally, why not join our two lists, Tech and SQL Server?? They are for threads like this.

/gustav


>>> darren at activebilling.com.au 18-11-2008 01:31 >>>

We have a Dell server running Linux as the OS (Running Ubuntu I think)
On this Linux server we have a VM Session running Windows Server as the OS
On this VM Session we have our instance of SQL Server 2005 ..




From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 18 02:21:37 2008
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:21:37 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
In-Reply-To: <BF3264A81EF24E1284A061D9A7AB4570@jislaptopdev>
References: <aea6c4950811171407o53956357s3c79156cf3f603f@mail.gmail.com>
	<57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC272007ACD7DEDE@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au>
	<49228A95.1845.446ED2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<BF3264A81EF24E1284A061D9A7AB4570@jislaptopdev>
Message-ID: <2275C6EBD9734E9B8EA53C9FD000DCF8@creativesystemdesigns.com>

That is what happens when you let non programmers from sale management try
to design a package for grandma to use. 

Also there is this agreement between Time-Warner, Sony and MS to manage. The
only way to truly stop copying of their copy-writeable material is make a
system that will no allowing the transfer of any protected information. If
the system allows direct access to the hardware layer the jigs up. So Vista
makes the hardware an abstraction layer and then MS can demand all software
designers must come to them if they want their products certified and
supported. It is not going to work of course but that is the plan.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 7:29 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey

...not to beat a dead horse but after playing with both Office 2007 and 
Vista, I'm of the firm opinion that Microsoft is a corporate dead horse 
waiting for some fresh young mare to replace it ...how in the hell with all 
that user and developer input they supposedly got, and all the beta testing 
they did, could they come out with their two new major cash cows both mooing

for mercy ...I swear to god it reminds me of some of the products produced 
by government bureaucrats in the early days of ADA when design by committee 
was the law of the land.

...and then there is Visual Studio 2008 and C# and you have to think they 
were produced by an entirely different company, one that listens to and 
understands developers and how we work ...I know its wishful thinking but 
dear god in heaven, can you imagine the next version of Access redesigned 
and coded from the ground up by the Visual Studio development team? ...hell 
they might even pry Access 2003 from my cold dead hands for such a thing!

William


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 6:27 PM
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey

> My sentiments exactly!
>
> On 18 Nov 2008 at 10:05, Darryl Collins wrote:
>>
>> If it wasn't VBA I would have given up on MS Office and gone to OO 
>> instead a while back.
>
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From marklbreen at gmail.com  Tue Nov 18 08:46:15 2008
From: marklbreen at gmail.com (Mark Breen)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:46:15 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Cottage renting web sites samples
In-Reply-To: <000201c9494a$2c21ccf0$6401a8c0@nant>
References: <000201c9494a$2c21ccf0$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <c7fd28d00811180646g780e66c0w31a2456fcedb2ed4@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Shamil,
Following your recommendation a few months ago, I am currently looking more
closely at DotNetNuke,  I currently have reviewed some video's and
subscribed to a magazine that has many articles on DNN.

Currently it looks useful, but I have more analysis to do before I can make
a final decision.

Would you consider using DNN for your project?  If not, I am curious to know
why not?

Mark



2008/11/18 Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru>

> Hi All,
>
> I'm looking for samples of cottages renting web sites - relatively small,
> user-friendly, and functional, looking attractive and tempting to rent
> advertised cottage(s) immediately, and run, ride, drive, fly there for
> vacations - something like this one:
>
> http://www.hookipabayview.com/index.html
>
> :)
>
> Any samples would be very helpful here and would be very much appreciated.
>
> The above site looks good but the one, which I'm looking for should have
> pages fitting 1024x768 or even 800x600 screen resolutions still having all
> the attributes listed above: relatively small, user-friendly,
> functional,...
>
> Looking for some ideas for a probable cottage renting small web site
> project...
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
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>
>
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From garykjos at gmail.com  Tue Nov 18 09:19:00 2008
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:19:00 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
In-Reply-To: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEAB125DB@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>
References: <027f01c94664$350d5570$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
	<096601c948c4$8b5bf820$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
	<49226C6A.680.2AF5C3B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<aea6c4950811171407o53956357s3c79156cf3f603f@mail.gmail.com>
	<F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEAB125DB@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950811180719x2717739fiebfd1b64d094a53b@mail.gmail.com>

Well I wouldn't myself but my users would. Excel is the preferred
output format for all the queries I run. I have to split things into
multiple files pretty often. Access scares them so they use Excel
essentially as a database and so run up against the row limit pretty
often.

GK

On 11/17/08, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> Think about what you're saying, Gary.  Would you really want to deal
> with a million-row spreadsheet??  Yikes!
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:08 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey
>
> You can have 1 million rows in an Excel 2007 file verses approx 65K in
> an Excel 2003 file.
>
> That alone would make me want it if my company allowed it.
>
> GK
>
> On 11/17/08, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:
> > So tell me, what could I do in Office 2007 that I can't do with 2003?
> >
> > Can anyone give me a compelling reason to upgrade?
> >
> >
> >
> > On 17 Nov 2008 at 9:55, Susan Harkins wrote:
> >
> > > It does appear that people are slow to upgrade this time -- more so
> > > than any other that I can remember.
> > >
> > > Susan H.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Not ignoring you.. just only use A2007 at home on a very limited
> > > > basis. We still ise 2003 version at work with no plan to move..
> > >
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> >
>
>
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From garykjos at gmail.com  Tue Nov 18 09:23:30 2008
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:23:30 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
In-Reply-To: <s9227428.040@cactus.dk>
References: <s9227428.040@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950811180723o54f6943ajdb938ec92d75c197@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Gustav,

Users are AFRAID of Access though. So they use what they are
comfortable with. And that is Excel. Whether it's the right tool or
not. When you are holding a hammer everything looks like a nail. Don't
get me wrong, it's not an every day thing, but it does happen with
some regularity too.

GK

On 11/18/08, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Gary
>
> Why? Excel is not to be used as a database (according to MS - as the main argument for pushing Access to users of Excel).
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>> garykjos at gmail.com 17-11-2008 23:07 >>>
> You can have 1 million rows in an Excel 2007 file verses approx 65K in
> an Excel 2003 file.
>
> That alone would make me want it if my company allowed it.
>
> GK
>
> On 11/17/08, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:
> > So tell me, what could I do in Office 2007 that I can't do with 2003?
> >
> > Can anyone give me a compelling reason to upgrade?
> >
> >
> >
> > On 17 Nov 2008 at 9:55, Susan Harkins wrote:
> >
> > > It does appear that people are slow to upgrade this time -- more so than any
> > > other that I can remember.
> > >
> > > Susan H.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Not ignoring you.. just only use A2007 at home on a very limited
> > > > basis. We still ise 2003 version at work with no plan to move..
>
>
>
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Nov 18 09:36:30 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:36:30 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950811180723o54f6943ajdb938ec92d75c197@mail.gmail.com>
References: <s9227428.040@cactus.dk>
	<aea6c4950811180723o54f6943ajdb938ec92d75c197@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2B53A85709964F98AE2FE127BE11B9A3@HAL9005>

I don't see anything wrong with doing stuff efficiently in Access and
presenting results in Excel.  Think of the XL sheet like a report.
Different format but same objective - present useful info to the user in a
way that they can understand.  

Re: the original question - I have Office 2007 and loaded it once to look at
it and then uninstalled it.  I'll go back to it when I have a client who
demands it.  I'm ready, but don't see any need for me to switch to using it
for development - I know where everything is in O2K3.  No one's going to pay
me for my learning curve.  

So I'll upgrade when the users demand it.


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 7:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey

Hi Gustav,

Users are AFRAID of Access though. So they use what they are comfortable
with. And that is Excel. Whether it's the right tool or not. When you are
holding a hammer everything looks like a nail. Don't get me wrong, it's not
an every day thing, but it does happen with some regularity too.

GK

On 11/18/08, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Gary
>
> Why? Excel is not to be used as a database (according to MS - as the main
argument for pushing Access to users of Excel).
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>> garykjos at gmail.com 17-11-2008 23:07 >>>
> You can have 1 million rows in an Excel 2007 file verses approx 65K in 
> an Excel 2003 file.
>
> That alone would make me want it if my company allowed it.
>
> GK
>
> On 11/17/08, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:
> > So tell me, what could I do in Office 2007 that I can't do with 2003?
> >
> > Can anyone give me a compelling reason to upgrade?
> >
> >
> >
> > On 17 Nov 2008 at 9:55, Susan Harkins wrote:
> >
> > > It does appear that people are slow to upgrade this time -- more 
> > > so than any other that I can remember.
> > >
> > > Susan H.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Not ignoring you.. just only use A2007 at home on a very limited 
> > > > basis. We still ise 2003 version at work with no plan to move..
>
>
>
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 18 09:43:16 2008
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:43:16 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
Message-ID: <s922f0b1.055@cactus.dk>

Hi Gary

Yes, I recognise only too well that mode of reaction.

It is probably not Access as such they are afraid of, rather the relational database with tables here and there, as this - which we as developers and db geeks quickly forget - requires very structured thinking, planning, and operating. 
To break down this barrier is one of the goals with the UI design, ribbon and wizards of A2007. Have you ever had the opportunity to provide this (A2007) to such a user? I wonder what would happen?

/gustav


>>> garykjos at gmail.com 18-11-2008 16:23 >>>
Hi Gustav,

Users are AFRAID of Access though. So they use what they are
comfortable with. And that is Excel. Whether it's the right tool or
not. When you are holding a hammer everything looks like a nail. Don't
get me wrong, it's not an every day thing, but it does happen with
some regularity too.

GK

On 11/18/08, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Gary
>
> Why? Excel is not to be used as a database (according to MS - as the main argument for pushing Access to users of Excel).
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>> garykjos at gmail.com 17-11-2008 23:07 >>>
> You can have 1 million rows in an Excel 2007 file verses approx 65K in
> an Excel 2003 file.
>
> That alone would make me want it if my company allowed it.
>
> GK
>
> On 11/17/08, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:
> > So tell me, what could I do in Office 2007 that I can't do with 2003?
> >
> > Can anyone give me a compelling reason to upgrade?
> >
> >
> >
> > On 17 Nov 2008 at 9:55, Susan Harkins wrote:
> >
> > > It does appear that people are slow to upgrade this time -- more so than any
> > > other that I can remember.
> > >
> > > Susan H.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Not ignoring you.. just only use A2007 at home on a very limited
> > > > basis. We still ise 2003 version at work with no plan to move..





From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Tue Nov 18 09:51:18 2008
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:51:18 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
In-Reply-To: <s922f0b1.055@cactus.dk>
References: <s922f0b1.055@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <F88E56DEA772AC4FBC468C7222830ED601F33F2E4A@EX2K7-VIRT-1.ads.qub.ac.uk>

We have thousands of standard users using Office 2007 and the change over was not noticeable in terms of support or anything else. All our student machines moved and most of the staff.
Almost every member of staff who moved and has voiced an opinion has been very in favour of the new version including the ribbons. Have to say this is the market I think MS are after. This is where they make the money. 

Martin


Martin WP Reid
Information Services
Queen's University
Riddel Hall
185 Stranmillis Road
Belfast
BT9 5EE
Tel : 02890974465
Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Nov 18 10:14:28 2008
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:14:28 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
In-Reply-To: <BF3264A81EF24E1284A061D9A7AB4570@jislaptopdev>
References: <aea6c4950811171407o53956357s3c79156cf3f603f@mail.gmail.com>,
	<57E6E6CA42105A48B977303A2CDC272007ACD7DEDE@WPEXCH22.retail.ad.cmltd.net.au><49228A95.1845.446ED2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<BF3264A81EF24E1284A061D9A7AB4570@jislaptopdev>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEAB125ED@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

But how do you REALLY feel, William?  LOL

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William
Hindman
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 7:29 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey

...not to beat a dead horse but after playing with both Office 2007 and
Vista, I'm of the firm opinion that Microsoft is a corporate dead horse
waiting for some fresh young mare to replace it ...how in the hell with
all that user and developer input they supposedly got, and all the beta
testing they did, could they come out with their two new major cash cows
both mooing for mercy ...I swear to god it reminds me of some of the
products produced by government bureaucrats in the early days of ADA
when design by committee was the law of the land.

...and then there is Visual Studio 2008 and C# and you have to think
they were produced by an entirely different company, one that listens to
and understands developers and how we work ...I know its wishful
thinking but dear god in heaven, can you imagine the next version of
Access redesigned and coded from the ground up by the Visual Studio
development team? ...hell they might even pry Access 2003 from my cold
dead hands for such a thing!

William


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 6:27 PM
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey

> My sentiments exactly!
>
> On 18 Nov 2008 at 10:05, Darryl Collins wrote:
>>
>> If it wasn't VBA I would have given up on MS Office and gone to OO 
>> instead a while back.
>
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From garykjos at gmail.com  Tue Nov 18 10:21:57 2008
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:21:57 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
In-Reply-To: <s922f0b1.055@cactus.dk>
References: <s922f0b1.055@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950811180821s62a3e97an88c5faae7dbe44a8@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Gustav,

No we are strictly A2003 - along with a few A2002 and a few A2000
holdouts - here at work. 90% of my results are small summary files.
Only occaisionally do people want "detail" and even then a lot of the
time they really want summary data that they think of as detail. But
you are entirely correct in that the users don't think of how data
relates and can be joined together. It's my reason for being here
<grin>

GK

On 11/18/08, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Gary
>
> Yes, I recognise only too well that mode of reaction.
>
> It is probably not Access as such they are afraid of, rather the relational database with tables here and there, as this - which we as developers and db geeks quickly forget - requires very structured thinking, planning, and operating.
> To break down this barrier is one of the goals with the UI design, ribbon and wizards of A2007. Have you ever had the opportunity to provide this (A2007) to such a user? I wonder what would happen?
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>> garykjos at gmail.com 18-11-2008 16:23 >>>
> Hi Gustav,
>
> Users are AFRAID of Access though. So they use what they are
> comfortable with. And that is Excel. Whether it's the right tool or
> not. When you are holding a hammer everything looks like a nail. Don't
> get me wrong, it's not an every day thing, but it does happen with
> some regularity too.
>
> GK
>
> On 11/18/08, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> > Hi Gary
> >
> > Why? Excel is not to be used as a database (according to MS - as the main argument for pushing Access to users of Excel).
> >
> > /gustav
> >
> >
> > >>> garykjos at gmail.com 17-11-2008 23:07 >>>
> > You can have 1 million rows in an Excel 2007 file verses approx 65K in
> > an Excel 2003 file.
> >
> > That alone would make me want it if my company allowed it.
> >
> > GK
> >
> > On 11/17/08, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:
> > > So tell me, what could I do in Office 2007 that I can't do with 2003?
> > >
> > > Can anyone give me a compelling reason to upgrade?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 17 Nov 2008 at 9:55, Susan Harkins wrote:
> > >
> > > > It does appear that people are slow to upgrade this time -- more so than any
> > > > other that I can remember.
> > > >
> > > > Susan H.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Not ignoring you.. just only use A2007 at home on a very limited
> > > > > basis. We still ise 2003 version at work with no plan to move..
>
>
>
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From DWUTKA at Marlow.com  Tue Nov 18 10:30:57 2008
From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:30:57 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
In-Reply-To: <BF3264A81EF24E1284A061D9A7AB4570@jislaptopdev>
Message-ID: <A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B201CDF6FA@MIEXCH.marlow.ii-vi.net>

Access 2003???  Sheesh.... You can have Access 2000 and up.... give me
something to replace Access 97!!!! ;)

<vbg>

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William
Hindman
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 9:29 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey

...not to beat a dead horse but after playing with both Office 2007 and 
Vista, I'm of the firm opinion that Microsoft is a corporate dead horse 
waiting for some fresh young mare to replace it ...how in the hell with
all 
that user and developer input they supposedly got, and all the beta
testing 
they did, could they come out with their two new major cash cows both
mooing 
for mercy ...I swear to god it reminds me of some of the products
produced 
by government bureaucrats in the early days of ADA when design by
committee 
was the law of the land.

...and then there is Visual Studio 2008 and C# and you have to think
they 
were produced by an entirely different company, one that listens to and 
understands developers and how we work ...I know its wishful thinking
but 
dear god in heaven, can you imagine the next version of Access
redesigned 
and coded from the ground up by the Visual Studio development team?
...hell 
they might even pry Access 2003 from my cold dead hands for such a
thing!

William

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 18 10:56:06 2008
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:56:06 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
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References: <027f01c94664$350d5570$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
	<096601c948c4$8b5bf820$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
	<49226C6A.680.2AF5C3B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
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	<F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEAB125DB@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>
	<aea6c4950811180719x2717739fiebfd1b64d094a53b@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Gary:

According to stats there is more data stored in Excel spreadsheets than all
databases combined hence the focus on that product. Relational databases are
too complex for many managers and accountants.

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 7:19 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey

Well I wouldn't myself but my users would. Excel is the preferred
output format for all the queries I run. I have to split things into
multiple files pretty often. Access scares them so they use Excel
essentially as a database and so run up against the row limit pretty
often.

GK

On 11/17/08, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> Think about what you're saying, Gary.  Would you really want to deal
> with a million-row spreadsheet??  Yikes!
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:08 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey
>
> You can have 1 million rows in an Excel 2007 file verses approx 65K in
> an Excel 2003 file.
>
> That alone would make me want it if my company allowed it.
>
> GK
>
> On 11/17/08, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:
> > So tell me, what could I do in Office 2007 that I can't do with 2003?
> >
> > Can anyone give me a compelling reason to upgrade?
> >
> >
> >
> > On 17 Nov 2008 at 9:55, Susan Harkins wrote:
> >
> > > It does appear that people are slow to upgrade this time -- more so
> > > than any other that I can remember.
> > >
> > > Susan H.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Not ignoring you.. just only use A2007 at home on a very limited
> > > > basis. We still ise 2003 version at work with no plan to move..
> > >
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From lmrazek at lcm-res.com  Tue Nov 18 11:09:42 2008
From: lmrazek at lcm-res.com (Lawrence Mrazek)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:09:42 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB
In-Reply-To: <A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B201CDF6F1@MIEXCH.marlow.ii-vi.net>
References: <053001c946f2$62b79c40$2826d4c0$@com>
	<A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B201CDF6F1@MIEXCH.marlow.ii-vi.net>
Message-ID: <09ec01c949a0$7302fb20$5908f160$@com>

Hi Drew:

Sorry about the delay in responding; trying to get over some sort of illness
brought home by the kids!

Basically, I think they'd like to do a lookup against AD, compare against a
username in the application table, if both match, then allow them to
proceed. These apps are already secured by Active Directory permissions,
most of them are custom reporting and analysis tools I developed to provide
them with functionality lacking in their enterprise software. 

Do you think the above scenario is doable?

Larry Mrazek
ph. 314-432-5886
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
http://www.lcm-res.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 9:59 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB

So what kind of code are you looking for to get there?  Just the basic
logged in user stuff, or do you want some code to query/authenticate against
AD?

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lawrence Mrazek
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 1:19 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB

Hi Drew:

Thanks for the great response; it really helped bring everything into focus.


I might only need to query against Active Directory, so a common user
framework running on all of their apps might do the trick.

Larry Mrazek
ph. 314-432-5886
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
http://www.lcm-res.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 3:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB

Ok, you asked, so sit back and read.  I am not going to include any code at
this point, because there would be too much to throw at you at once!

To start with, there are a few ways to get AD information.  The easiest and
least code intensive is to just go off of NT User name (or Active Directory
Account name).  To retrieve this name, is a very simple function (just a few
lines of code).  You can also retrieve the name of the domain you are on
with a simple line of code too.  So if you just want to know that jsmith on
MyCompany domain is getting into your database, you can use those two simple
functions to verify that.

HOWEVER, the steps above are going to go off of the credentials of the user
currently logged into the machine.  It will even work if the user is
technically 'offline', because the functions for those will go off of the
local machine's cached credentials.  This is usually as far as most Access
developers will go to integrate their systems with Active Directory.

However, if you want to go further, you can actually 'query' Active
Directory.  Querying AD is a little different then Access Queries.  The
language is a bit different, different qualifiers, structure, etc.
However, by querying AD, you can get a list of all current users, groups,
group membership, etc.  You can also 'authenticate' a user against Active
directory.  I have a function that will do that if you provide the username
and password.  

So, if you truly want to make a system that is integrated with Active
Directory, I would build a 'user framework'.  I do this with a global user
class.  When it initializes, it gets all the current user information based
off of the logged in user, but it can be changed to represent another user
through the authentication method I described earlier.  All
functions/features are then verified through this class.

I will caution you, however, that while Access is a great RAD tool, when it
is used as a Front End, it is less then secure.  I personally have never
used AD integration with an Access FE, I have used it with a VB FE and with
Web based front ends, where the database is not directly available to the
users.  So if you are looking to use AD integration as a simple method of
user administration, go ahead, but if you are planning on user AD
integration for security purposes, I would recommend a different platform
for your front end.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lawrence Mrazek
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 1:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB

Hi Folks:

Is it possible to use Active Directory to login to an Access DB (XP in this
case)? Can I access the current AD username and groups via VBA code?

I'm just trying to see what's possible in this area right now and if anyone
is using this functionality in their apps. 

Thanks in advance. 

Larry Mrazek
ph. 314-432-5886
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
http://www.lcm-res.com



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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Nov 18 11:10:46 2008
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:10:46 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
In-Reply-To: <74F728E6DC0540B8B6BA139660B1ABC2@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <027f01c94664$350d5570$2f8601c7@SusanOne><096601c948c4$8b5bf820$2f8601c7@SusanOne><49226C6A.680.2AF5C3B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg><aea6c4950811171407o53956357s3c79156cf3f603f@mail.gmail.com><F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEAB125DB@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local><aea6c4950811180719x2717739fiebfd1b64d094a53b@mail.gmail.com>
	<74F728E6DC0540B8B6BA139660B1ABC2@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEAB125F5@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

That may be the perception, that relation databases are too complex, but
we all know it isn't true, or at least doesn't need to be true.  I've
had many clients over the years who caught on right away when I
explained the way data interconnects, and they really like the results.
There's just a huge fear factor associated with "database" that simply
doesn't need to be there.

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 8:56 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey

Hi Gary:

According to stats there is more data stored in Excel spreadsheets than
all databases combined hence the focus on that product. Relational
databases are too complex for many managers and accountants.

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 7:19 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey

Well I wouldn't myself but my users would. Excel is the preferred output
format for all the queries I run. I have to split things into multiple
files pretty often. Access scares them so they use Excel essentially as
a database and so run up against the row limit pretty often.

GK

On 11/17/08, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> Think about what you're saying, Gary.  Would you really want to deal 
> with a million-row spreadsheet??  Yikes!
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:08 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey
>
> You can have 1 million rows in an Excel 2007 file verses approx 65K in

> an Excel 2003 file.
>
> That alone would make me want it if my company allowed it.
>
> GK
>
> On 11/17/08, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:
> > So tell me, what could I do in Office 2007 that I can't do with
2003?
> >
> > Can anyone give me a compelling reason to upgrade?
> >
> >
> >
> > On 17 Nov 2008 at 9:55, Susan Harkins wrote:
> >
> > > It does appear that people are slow to upgrade this time -- more 
> > > so than any other that I can remember.
> > >
> > > Susan H.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Not ignoring you.. just only use A2007 at home on a very limited

> > > > basis. We still ise 2003 version at work with no plan to move..
> > >
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From DWUTKA at Marlow.com  Tue Nov 18 11:26:23 2008
From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:26:23 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB
In-Reply-To: <09ec01c949a0$7302fb20$5908f160$@com>
Message-ID: <A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B201CDF6FD@MIEXCH.marlow.ii-vi.net>

Ok, well getting the local NT user (the account name of the user
currently logged into a machine) is pretty easy: (watch for word wrap)

Private Declare Function GetUserName Lib "advapi32.dll" Alias
"GetUserNameA" (ByVal lpBuffer As String, nSize As Long) As Long

Private Function GetCurrentLoggedOnUser() As String
Dim intBuffer As Long
Dim strNTUser As String
Dim dwReturn As Long
intBuffer = 255
strNTUser = Space(intBuffer)
dwReturn = GetUserName(strNTUser, intBuffer)
If dwReturn <> 0 Then
    strNTUser = Left(strNTUser, intBuffer - 1)
Else
    strNTUser = "Unable to Determine"
End If
GetCurrentLoggedOnUser = strNTUser
end Function

If you want to authenticate a user:

Friend Function ValidateNTUser(strUserName As String, strPassword As
String) As Boolean
On Error Resume Next
Dim strDomain As String
Dim conLDAP As ADODB.Connection
Dim strSQL As String
Dim strLDAPConn As String
Dim rsUser As ADODB.Recordset
strDomain = GetObject("LDAP://RootDSE").Get("defaultNamingContext")
Set conLDAP = New ADODB.Connection
conLDAP.Provider = "ADSDSOOBject"
strSQL = "Select AdsPath, cn From 'LDAP://" & strDomain & "' where
objectClass='user' and objectcategory='person' and SamAccountName='" &
strUserName & "'"
conLDAP.Provider = "ADsDSOObject"
conLDAP.Properties("User ID") = strUserName
conLDAP.Properties("Password") = strPassword
conLDAP.Properties("Encrypt Password") = True
conLDAP.Open "DS Query", strUserName, strPassword
Err.Clear
Set rsUser = conLDAP.Execute(strSQL)
ValidateNTUser = False
If Err.Number = 0 Then
    If Not (rsUser Is Nothing) Then
        If Not (rsUser.EOF And rsUser.BOF) Then
                ValidateNTUser = True
        End If
    End If
End If
End Function

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lawrence
Mrazek
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 11:10 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB

Hi Drew:

Sorry about the delay in responding; trying to get over some sort of
illness
brought home by the kids!

Basically, I think they'd like to do a lookup against AD, compare
against a
username in the application table, if both match, then allow them to
proceed. These apps are already secured by Active Directory permissions,
most of them are custom reporting and analysis tools I developed to
provide
them with functionality lacking in their enterprise software. 

Do you think the above scenario is doable?

Larry Mrazek
ph. 314-432-5886
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
http://www.lcm-res.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 9:59 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB

So what kind of code are you looking for to get there?  Just the basic
logged in user stuff, or do you want some code to query/authenticate
against
AD?

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lawrence
Mrazek
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 1:19 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB

Hi Drew:

Thanks for the great response; it really helped bring everything into
focus.


I might only need to query against Active Directory, so a common user
framework running on all of their apps might do the trick.

Larry Mrazek
ph. 314-432-5886
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
http://www.lcm-res.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 3:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB

Ok, you asked, so sit back and read.  I am not going to include any code
at
this point, because there would be too much to throw at you at once!

To start with, there are a few ways to get AD information.  The easiest
and
least code intensive is to just go off of NT User name (or Active
Directory
Account name).  To retrieve this name, is a very simple function (just a
few
lines of code).  You can also retrieve the name of the domain you are on
with a simple line of code too.  So if you just want to know that jsmith
on
MyCompany domain is getting into your database, you can use those two
simple
functions to verify that.

HOWEVER, the steps above are going to go off of the credentials of the
user
currently logged into the machine.  It will even work if the user is
technically 'offline', because the functions for those will go off of
the
local machine's cached credentials.  This is usually as far as most
Access
developers will go to integrate their systems with Active Directory.

However, if you want to go further, you can actually 'query' Active
Directory.  Querying AD is a little different then Access Queries.  The
language is a bit different, different qualifiers, structure, etc.
However, by querying AD, you can get a list of all current users,
groups,
group membership, etc.  You can also 'authenticate' a user against
Active
directory.  I have a function that will do that if you provide the
username
and password.  

So, if you truly want to make a system that is integrated with Active
Directory, I would build a 'user framework'.  I do this with a global
user
class.  When it initializes, it gets all the current user information
based
off of the logged in user, but it can be changed to represent another
user
through the authentication method I described earlier.  All
functions/features are then verified through this class.

I will caution you, however, that while Access is a great RAD tool, when
it
is used as a Front End, it is less then secure.  I personally have never
used AD integration with an Access FE, I have used it with a VB FE and
with
Web based front ends, where the database is not directly available to
the
users.  So if you are looking to use AD integration as a simple method
of
user administration, go ahead, but if you are planning on user AD
integration for security purposes, I would recommend a different
platform
for your front end.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lawrence
Mrazek
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 1:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB

Hi Folks:

Is it possible to use Active Directory to login to an Access DB (XP in
this
case)? Can I access the current AD username and groups via VBA code?

I'm just trying to see what's possible in this area right now and if
anyone
is using this functionality in their apps. 

Thanks in advance. 

Larry Mrazek
ph. 314-432-5886
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
http://www.lcm-res.com



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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Tue Nov 18 12:04:43 2008
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:04:43 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB
Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C21B86A659@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com>

Would this work for you? ...

Private Declare Function LogonUser Lib "Advapi32" Alias "LogonUserA" (ByVal
_
    lpszUserName As String, ByVal lpszDomain As String, _
    ByVal lpszPassword As String, ByVal dwLogonType As Long, _
    ByVal dwLogonProvider As Long, phToken As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function CloseHandle Lib "kernel32" (ByVal hObject As Long)
As _
    Long
Const LOGON32_PROVIDER_DEFAULT = 0&
Const LOGON32_LOGON_NETWORK = 3&

' Check whether a username/password pair is correct
'
' if DOMAIN is omitted, it uses the local account database
' and then asks trusted domains to search their account databases
' until it finds the account or the search is exhausted
' use DOMAIN="." to search only the local account database
'
'  IMPORTANT: works only under Windows NT and 2000 and XP

Private Function CheckWindowsUser(ByVal UserName As String, _
    ByVal Password As String, Optional ByVal Domain As String) As Boolean
    Dim hToken As Long, ret As Long

    ' provide a default for the Domain name
    If Len(Domain) = 0 Then Domain = vbNullString
    ' check the username/password pair
    ' using LOGON32_LOGON_NETWORK delivers the best performance
    ret = LogonUser(UserName, Domain, Password, LOGON32_LOGON_NETWORK, _
        LOGON32_PROVIDER_DEFAULT, hToken)
    
    ' a non-zero value means success
    If ret Then
        CheckWindowsUser = True
        CloseHandle hToken
    End If
End Function 

Lambert

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lawrence Mrazek
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 12:10 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB

Hi Drew:

Sorry about the delay in responding; trying to get over some sort of illness
brought home by the kids!

Basically, I think they'd like to do a lookup against AD, compare against a
username in the application table, if both match, then allow them to
proceed. These apps are already secured by Active Directory permissions,
most of them are custom reporting and analysis tools I developed to provide
them with functionality lacking in their enterprise software. 

Do you think the above scenario is doable?

Larry Mrazek
ph. 314-432-5886
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 9:59 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB

So what kind of code are you looking for to get there?  Just the basic
logged in user stuff, or do you want some code to query/authenticate against
AD?

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 1:19 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB

Hi Drew:

Thanks for the great response; it really helped bring everything into focus.


I might only need to query against Active Directory, so a common user
framework running on all of their apps might do the trick.

Larry Mrazek
ph. 314-432-5886
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 3:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB

Ok, you asked, so sit back and read.  I am not going to include any code at
this point, because there would be too much to throw at you at once!

To start with, there are a few ways to get AD information.  The easiest and
least code intensive is to just go off of NT User name (or Active Directory
Account name).  To retrieve this name, is a very simple function (just a few
lines of code).  You can also retrieve the name of the domain you are on
with a simple line of code too.  So if you just want to know that jsmith on
MyCompany domain is getting into your database, you can use those two simple
functions to verify that.

HOWEVER, the steps above are going to go off of the credentials of the user
currently logged into the machine.  It will even work if the user is
technically 'offline', because the functions for those will go off of the
local machine's cached credentials.  This is usually as far as most Access
developers will go to integrate their systems with Active Directory.

However, if you want to go further, you can actually 'query' Active
Directory.  Querying AD is a little different then Access Queries.  The
language is a bit different, different qualifiers, structure, etc.
However, by querying AD, you can get a list of all current users, groups,
group membership, etc.  You can also 'authenticate' a user against Active
directory.  I have a function that will do that if you provide the username
and password.  

So, if you truly want to make a system that is integrated with Active
Directory, I would build a 'user framework'.  I do this with a global user
class.  When it initializes, it gets all the current user information based
off of the logged in user, but it can be changed to represent another user
through the authentication method I described earlier.  All
functions/features are then verified through this class.

I will caution you, however, that while Access is a great RAD tool, when it
is used as a Front End, it is less then secure.  I personally have never
used AD integration with an Access FE, I have used it with a VB FE and with
Web based front ends, where the database is not directly available to the
users.  So if you are looking to use AD integration as a simple method of
user administration, go ahead, but if you are planning on user AD
integration for security purposes, I would recommend a different platform
for your front end.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lawrence Mrazek
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 1:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB

Hi Folks:

Is it possible to use Active Directory to login to an Access DB (XP in this
case)? Can I access the current AD username and groups via VBA code?

I'm just trying to see what's possible in this area right now and if anyone
is using this functionality in their apps. 

Thanks in advance. 

Larry Mrazek
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lmrazek at lcm-res.com
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From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru  Tue Nov 18 12:15:24 2008
From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:15:24 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Cottage renting web sites samples
In-Reply-To: <c7fd28d00811180646g780e66c0w31a2456fcedb2ed4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000901c949a9$a1d74470$6401a8c0@nant>

Mark, 

Using DNN for the subject project would be "shoot from the cannon on the
wheel"...

Thank you.

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Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 5:46 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Cottage renting web sites samples

Hello Shamil,
Following your recommendation a few months ago, I am currently looking more
closely at DotNetNuke,  I currently have reviewed some video's and
subscribed to a magazine that has many articles on DNN.

Currently it looks useful, but I have more analysis to do before I can make
a final decision.

Would you consider using DNN for your project?  If not, I am curious to know
why not?

Mark



2008/11/18 Shamil Salakhetdinov <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru>

> Hi All,
>
> I'm looking for samples of cottages renting web sites - relatively small,
> user-friendly, and functional, looking attractive and tempting to rent
> advertised cottage(s) immediately, and run, ride, drive, fly there for
> vacations - something like this one:
>
> http://www.hookipabayview.com/index.html
>
> :)
>
> Any samples would be very helpful here and would be very much appreciated.
>
> The above site looks good but the one, which I'm looking for should have
> pages fitting 1024x768 or even 800x600 screen resolutions still having all
> the attributes listed above: relatively small, user-friendly,
> functional,...
>
> Looking for some ideas for a probable cottage renting small web site
> project...
>
> Thank you.
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From garykjos at gmail.com  Tue Nov 18 12:21:49 2008
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:21:49 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
In-Reply-To: <74F728E6DC0540B8B6BA139660B1ABC2@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <027f01c94664$350d5570$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
	<096601c948c4$8b5bf820$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
	<49226C6A.680.2AF5C3B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<aea6c4950811171407o53956357s3c79156cf3f603f@mail.gmail.com>
	<F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEAB125DB@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>
	<aea6c4950811180719x2717739fiebfd1b64d094a53b@mail.gmail.com>
	<74F728E6DC0540B8B6BA139660B1ABC2@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950811181021qddd2254j99b7636651912a88@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Jim,

I know it and I am responsible for a lot of it here where I work. 99%
of my output goes to Excel and is forwarded on to someone else to use
for who knows what.

GK

On 11/18/08, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> Hi Gary:
>
> According to stats there is more data stored in Excel spreadsheets than all
> databases combined hence the focus on that product. Relational databases are
> too complex for many managers and accountants.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 7:19 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey
>
> Well I wouldn't myself but my users would. Excel is the preferred
> output format for all the queries I run. I have to split things into
> multiple files pretty often. Access scares them so they use Excel
> essentially as a database and so run up against the row limit pretty
> often.
>
> GK
>
> On 11/17/08, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> > Think about what you're saying, Gary.  Would you really want to deal
> > with a million-row spreadsheet??  Yikes!
> >
> > Charlotte Foust
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> > Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:08 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey
> >
> > You can have 1 million rows in an Excel 2007 file verses approx 65K in
> > an Excel 2003 file.
> >
> > That alone would make me want it if my company allowed it.
> >
> > GK
> >
> > On 11/17/08, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:
> > > So tell me, what could I do in Office 2007 that I can't do with 2003?
> > >
> > > Can anyone give me a compelling reason to upgrade?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 17 Nov 2008 at 9:55, Susan Harkins wrote:
> > >
> > > > It does appear that people are slow to upgrade this time -- more so
> > > > than any other that I can remember.
> > > >
> > > > Susan H.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Not ignoring you.. just only use A2007 at home on a very limited
> > > > > basis. We still ise 2003 version at work with no plan to move..
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From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Tue Nov 18 12:32:29 2008
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:32:29 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950811181021qddd2254j99b7636651912a88@mail.gmail.com>
References: <027f01c94664$350d5570$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
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There's also the issue that a database is not required in many instances by the end user. Many of our staff only use Access to suck large sheets into to use the query tools. I have to say that Access is not ignored for the Office 14 release so it's not going away. It is changing but will not disappear. I think they are concentrated a lot of effort into the web.

Martin

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Sent: 18 November 2008 18:22
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey

Hi Jim,

I know it and I am responsible for a lot of it here where I work. 99%
of my output goes to Excel and is forwarded on to someone else to use
for who knows what.

GK

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From davidmcafee at gmail.com  Tue Nov 18 13:52:01 2008
From: davidmcafee at gmail.com (David McAfee)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:52:01 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
In-Reply-To: <A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B201CDF6FA@MIEXCH.marlow.ii-vi.net>
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hahaha. I was going to say that!



I can't stand how reports have moved the close button from the top right
corner to the ribbon.
Many old timers have a hard time finding it, here at work.

Also I miss the old menus. No more Alt + W then the window number to switch
bewteen windows (yes, I'm a keyboard guy)

David



On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Drew Wutka <DWUTKA at marlow.com> wrote:

> Access 2003???  Sheesh.... You can have Access 2000 and up.... give me
> something to replace Access 97!!!! ;)
>
> <vbg>
>
> Drew
>


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Nov 18 14:15:18 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:15:18 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] SQL Server vs. MySQL
Message-ID: <5D53E4EBB8BC42C2A42DE3BF2EC27B43@HAL9005>


Dear List:

A client is considering moving to SQL.  Their current debate is between SQL
Server and MySQL.  Does anyone have preferences or reasons to select one
over the other?  The company is a medium sized law firm.

 	
	
MTIA

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

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From John.Serrano at dayzim.com  Tue Nov 18 14:31:49 2008
From: John.Serrano at dayzim.com (Serrano, John K)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:31:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] SQL Server vs. MySQL
In-Reply-To: <5D53E4EBB8BC42C2A42DE3BF2EC27B43@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <441B3C415B36F54397BC7CC8567776E703C6A8F6@tagmail.corp.dayzim.com>

Rocky,

 

If you're trying to build a .NET services architecture, synchronizing
data between multiple disparate platforms, 

or learning the loftier precepts of database management, SQL Server will
help you most. 

 

If you're building a third-party-hosted Web site, pushing a lot of data
out to a lot of clients, or have a budget in the neighborhood of free, 

then MySQL will be your best bet.

 

Look this article up, hope this helps 

http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-1054385.html

 

John 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
at Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 3:15 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] SQL Server vs. MySQL

 

 

Dear List:

 

A client is considering moving to SQL.  Their current debate is between
SQL

Server and MySQL.  Does anyone have preferences or reasons to select one

over the other?  The company is a medium sized law firm.

 

      

      

MTIA

 

Rocky Smolin

 

Beach Access Software

 

858-259-4334

 

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From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru  Tue Nov 18 17:49:22 2008
From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 02:49:22 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] SQL Server vs. MySQL
In-Reply-To: <5D53E4EBB8BC42C2A42DE3BF2EC27B43@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <001801c949d8$49264c20$6401a8c0@nant>

Rocky,

In my opinion MS SQL Server Express + a set of related advanced free
development tools is the way to go these days...

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 11:15 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] SQL Server vs. MySQL


Dear List:

A client is considering moving to SQL.  Their current debate is between SQL
Server and MySQL.  Does anyone have preferences or reasons to select one
over the other?  The company is a medium sized law firm.

 	
	
MTIA

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

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From darren at activebilling.com.au  Tue Nov 18 18:32:58 2008
From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:32:58 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] WAY OT: Brains Trust Q - Slow SQL Server 2005
In-Reply-To: <49229FD1.24216.97625B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <00de01c94914$f744e1f0$0d1b910a@denzilnote>
	<49229FD1.24216.97625B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <017a01c949de$604b8860$0d1b910a@denzilnote>

Hi Team

Thanks for all the replies

Allocated 3 gig to the VM Session and it made a world of difference.
Strangely when we reverted to 2 GIG the performance did decrease but not to the
point it was at the other day. 

Sadly in the meantime there was a re-boot of the server with MS Updates
installed in the shutdown - So I have no clue what they were or what they did
(If anything) - But the increase in RAM did make a big difference

Bruce and Gustav I'm told that it is a 'real' VM Server not the desktop thing.
Bruce I am interested in the comments about network passthroughs - Do you have
any more information?

It was a business decision to go with SQL server - made above my head and before
my time

Many thanks
 
Darren

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Tuesday, 18 November 2008 11:58 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] WAY OT: Brains Trust Q - Slow SQL Server 2005

First thing I'd look at is the amount of memory you have allocated for your VM.

Running SQL Server on Windows Server, you'll need at least a couple of Gigs of
memory 
dedicated to it.

On 18 Nov 2008 at 11:31, Darren D wrote:

> Hi All
> 
> Please forgive the WAY OT Post but I need access to the Brains trust and I
know
> a lot of you are SQL/VMWare gurus
> 
> As this is a way OT post - feel free to respond to me off line to: darren at
> activebilling dot com dot au
> 
> Moderators feel free to tell me to take it away
> 
>  
> 
> We have a Dell server running Linux as the OS (Running Ubuntu I think)
> 
> On this Linux server we have a VM Session running Windows Server as the OS
> 
> On this VM Session we have our instance of SQL Server 2005 - And it is running
> like a slug.
> 
>  
> 
> For instance - We copied a live and running SQL 2000 dB onto this SQL 2005
setup
> and started running comparisons against each on a large table and the results
> were awful. 
> 
> We started connecting our app to it as well and the results were even worse
> (About 12 minutes to open a relatively simple screen) 
> 
> Whereas the same app connected to the live and running SQL 2000 version runs
as
> expected 
> 
>  
> 
> Can anyone advise if this multi layer OS/VM Setup is the likely culprit for
the
> go slow? 
> 
> Does anyone know of sure fire things to change and even some things to try or
> gotchas?
> 
> Also do we know of any analyser tools that we could test the Linux/VM Session
> config to see if that level is the culprit before we dig into the SQL 2005
> setup?
> 
> And anything else you can recommend
> 
>  
> 
> Many many questions -
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks heaps in advance team - Apologies again for the OT :-)
> 
>  
> 
> DD
> 
>  
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 18 19:35:21 2008
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:35:21 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
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You are so right Charlotte.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 9:11 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey

That may be the perception, that relation databases are too complex, but
we all know it isn't true, or at least doesn't need to be true.  I've
had many clients over the years who caught on right away when I
explained the way data interconnects, and they really like the results.
There's just a huge fear factor associated with "database" that simply
doesn't need to be there.

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 8:56 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey

Hi Gary:

According to stats there is more data stored in Excel spreadsheets than
all databases combined hence the focus on that product. Relational
databases are too complex for many managers and accountants.

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 7:19 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey

Well I wouldn't myself but my users would. Excel is the preferred output
format for all the queries I run. I have to split things into multiple
files pretty often. Access scares them so they use Excel essentially as
a database and so run up against the row limit pretty often.

GK

On 11/17/08, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
> Think about what you're saying, Gary.  Would you really want to deal 
> with a million-row spreadsheet??  Yikes!
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:08 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey
>
> You can have 1 million rows in an Excel 2007 file verses approx 65K in

> an Excel 2003 file.
>
> That alone would make me want it if my company allowed it.
>
> GK
>
> On 11/17/08, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:
> > So tell me, what could I do in Office 2007 that I can't do with
2003?
> >
> > Can anyone give me a compelling reason to upgrade?
> >
> >
> >
> > On 17 Nov 2008 at 9:55, Susan Harkins wrote:
> >
> > > It does appear that people are slow to upgrade this time -- more 
> > > so than any other that I can remember.
> > >
> > > Susan H.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Not ignoring you.. just only use A2007 at home on a very limited

> > > > basis. We still ise 2003 version at work with no plan to move..
> > >
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 19 01:35:21 2008
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:35:21 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] SQL Server vs. MySQL
Message-ID: <s923cfd9.059@cactus.dk>

Hi John

Not really:

<quote>
Posted: 03/18/2003 @ 02:28 AM (PST) 
</quote>

>>> John.Serrano at dayzim.com 18-11-2008 21:31 >>>
Look this article up, hope this helps 

http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-1054385.html 





From markamatte at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 19 08:11:38 2008
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:11:38 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing Capabilities
In-Reply-To: <013901c948e2$554e8db0$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2>
References: <002301c9468b$094eafc0$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2><BAY127-W34A22874EBF8B4F0A2547BD2160@phx.gbl>
	<BAY127-W149D84AB6605E04B9AE119D2130@phx.gbl> 
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Message-ID: <BAY127-W46265A9EC5AF627B3DDF49D20D0@phx.gbl>


Paul,
 
Sorry for the delay...I was 'offline' yesterday...this mdb is at home on a personal machine.  I got your other email as well.  It does allow a 'user' to select what objects are visible and rearrange the objects on the screen...even the size of some objects.   I will try and put something together tonight.
 
Thanks,
 
Mark A. Matte> From: paul_lifopro at cox.net> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:28:48 -0600> Subject: Re: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing Capabilities> > Mark,> > This would probably work for me.> > Would it be possible for me to get a copy of the code you used? I'm not> very familiar with the mouseup and down event.> > Thanks very much for you help.> > Paul> > -----Original Message-----> From: Mark A Matte [mailto:markamatte at hotmail.com] > Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 8:03 AM> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: Re: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing Capabilities> > > I left 1 piece of info out...I wanted the same type of events to fire for> each object type...so I wrote some code that used the name of each object to> determine what function to call...and used a naming convention religiously.> When a certain object was clicked...the border(a label) would change> color...and a lookup would count and display on on the object how many> records were associated with the table. So for each object I had 3> things.Example:> > Text box---tbPool01> Label---lbPool01> Image---imPool01> > Text box---tbBoot01> Label---lbBoot01> Image---imBoot01> > So when you clicked on an object(image) it would pass its name to the> function...parse the name...then depending on what 'kind' it was> ('boot','pool','stoo'' etc)...Mid([MyName],3,4)...would do specific things> to that images corresponding text box and lable.> > Using this type of naming...allowed me to store the names and positions of> all objects in a table, loop through all items when the form opened and> positioning them according to the data in the table....giving the user a way> to move items around(UP,DOWN,RIGHT,LEFT buttons adding and subtracting> TWIPS) on the screen and basically customizing it for their use.(even worked> in an MDE).> > Good Luck,> > Mark A. Mattesh what you are looking for.> > Good luck.> > Mark A. Matte>> From: paul_lifopro at cox.net> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Date: Fri, 14> Nov 2008 12:58:52 -0600> Subject: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing Capabilities>> > I'm volunteering my time to work on a small system for a non-profit>> organization.> > > > The organization has an Expo every year and they have> been keeping track of> the exhibitors, booth space and donated items using> Excel. While this> works, its pretty time consuming and inefficient.> > > >> I have the DB, Forms and reports pretty well finished. What I need help on>> is how to create a diagram/chart of how the booths are set up in the>> building. It seems like I should be able to interface Access and maybe>> Visio to get this done.> > > > Ideally, I'd like to draw he booth setup on a> form and then somehow let the> people click on a booth and have a modal form> come up and show the> information about the booth i.e. size, is it taken, is> it a premium booth,> etc.> > > > I've googled every key word I can think of> !> but haven't been able to find any> examples.> > > > Any help would be> appreciated.> > > > Thanks> > > > Paul> > -- > AccessD mailing list>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> Website:> http://www.databaseadvisors.com>> _________________________________________________________________> Windows> Live Hotmail now works up to 70% faster.>> http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_faster_> 112008> -- > AccessD mailing list> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> Website:> http://www.databaseadvisors.com> _________________________________________________________________> Windows Live Hotmail now works up to 70% faster.> http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_faster_> 112008> > -- > AccessD mailing list> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Nov 19 08:27:11 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 06:27:11 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] SQL Server vs. MySQL
In-Reply-To: <s923cfd9.059@cactus.dk>
References: <s923cfd9.059@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <E065B5A522CC4BF9B3F46A40F883D15B@HAL9005>

Thanks to all for your feedback.  I'll forward all of your comments to the
client.  Fortunately (or not) I don't have enough experience with SQL to
express an educated preference.  So I get to duck the issue. :)


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 11:35 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] SQL Server vs. MySQL

Hi John

Not really:

<quote>
Posted: 03/18/2003 @ 02:28 AM (PST)
</quote>

>>> John.Serrano at dayzim.com 18-11-2008 21:31 >>>
Look this article up, hope this helps 

http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-1054385.html 



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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 19 08:29:02 2008
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:29:02 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
In-Reply-To: <F8F668D6888744EB84CF58B742AC266F@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <027f01c94664$350d5570$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
	<096601c948c4$8b5bf820$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
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I work for what some might call a 'large' company...and we just moved to XP within the last 6 months...from 97...
 
...according to the Mayans...the world will be gone by the time we are due for another upgrade.
 
Thanks,
 
Mark> From: accessd at shaw.ca> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:35:21 -0800> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey> > You are so right Charlotte.> > Jim> > -----Original Message-----> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 9:11 AM> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey> > That may be the perception, that relation databases are too complex, but> we all know it isn't true, or at least doesn't need to be true. I've> had many clients over the years who caught on right away when I> explained the way data interconnects, and they really like the results.> There's just a huge fear factor associated with "database" that simply> doesn't need to be there.> > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message-----> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 8:56 AM> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey> > Hi Gary:> > According to stats there is more data stored in Excel spreadsheets than> all databases combined hence the focus on that product. Relational> databases are too complex for many managers and accountants.> > Jim > > -----Original Message-----> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 7:19 AM> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey> > Well I wouldn't myself but my users would. Excel is the preferred output> format for all the queries I run. I have to split things into multiple> files pretty often. Access scares them so they use Excel essentially as> a database and so run up against the row limit pretty often.> > GK> > On 11/17/08, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:> > Think about what you're saying, Gary. Would you really want to deal > > with a million-row spreadsheet?? Yikes!> >> > Charlotte Foust> >> > -----Original Message-----> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos> > Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:08 PM> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey> >> > You can have 1 million rows in an Excel 2007 file verses approx 65K in> > > an Excel 2003 file.> >> > That alone would make me want it if my company allowed it.> >> > GK> >> > On 11/17/08, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:> > > So tell me, what could I do in Office 2007 that I can't do with> 2003?> > >> > > Can anyone give me a compelling reason to upgrade?> > >> > >> > >> > > On 17 Nov 2008 at 9:55, Susan Harkins wrote:> > >> > > > It does appear that people are slow to upgrade this time -- more > > > > so than any other that I can remember.> > > >> > > > Susan H.> > > >> > > >> > > > > Not ignoring you.. just only use A2007 at home on a very limited> > > > > > basis. We still ise 2003 version at work with no plan to move..> > > >> > > > --> > > > AccessD mailing list> > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com> > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com> > >> > >> > > --> > > AccessD mailing list> > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com> > >> >> >> > --> > Gary Kjos> > garykjos at gmail.com> > --> > AccessD mailing list> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com> >> > --> > AccessD mailing list> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com> >> > > --> Gary Kjos> garykjos at gmail.com> --> AccessD mailing list> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com> > --> AccessD mailing list> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com> > -- > AccessD mailing list> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com> > -- > AccessD mailing list> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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From JHewson at nciinc.com  Wed Nov 19 08:29:54 2008
From: JHewson at nciinc.com (Hewson, Jim )
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 08:29:54 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer
Message-ID: <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A83EC38E@sanex101.nciinc.com>

I recently received a new machine from my employer.

My previous machine had A97 through A2003 installed with A2007 runtime
for testing.

Everything worked fine... well each time either A2003 or A2007 started
the first time the Windows installer would go through its thing.

On the new machine, in the beginning the IT folks couldn't get the
different version to play nice together.

After many uninstalls and reinstalls etc. I finally have A97, A2000,
A2003 and the A2007 runtime.

My issue is that EVERY TIME A2003 starts the Windows Installer begins
and if I hit cancel it cancels everything.

It starts even if I have another instance of it open and it doesn't
matter how many times I have opened it up in the past it still starts.

 

The IT folks say the next step in to uninstall everything on the machine
and reinstall all the software.

Does anyone know how to stop this from happening?  

 

MTA,

 

Jim H.

 


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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Nov 19 08:33:46 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 06:33:46 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer
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I've never been able to solve it myself or heard of any way to prevent it.
On OT there's been a long running thread on VPC which would seem to work
well - put any version of Office which won't play nice into a separate
virtual machine.


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hewson, Jim 
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 6:30 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer

I recently received a new machine from my employer.

My previous machine had A97 through A2003 installed with A2007 runtime for
testing.

Everything worked fine... well each time either A2003 or A2007 started the
first time the Windows installer would go through its thing.

On the new machine, in the beginning the IT folks couldn't get the different
version to play nice together.

After many uninstalls and reinstalls etc. I finally have A97, A2000,
A2003 and the A2007 runtime.

My issue is that EVERY TIME A2003 starts the Windows Installer begins and if
I hit cancel it cancels everything.

It starts even if I have another instance of it open and it doesn't matter
how many times I have opened it up in the past it still starts.

 

The IT folks say the next step in to uninstall everything on the machine and
reinstall all the software.

Does anyone know how to stop this from happening?  

 

MTA,

 

Jim H.

 


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From JHewson at nciinc.com  Wed Nov 19 09:10:55 2008
From: JHewson at nciinc.com (Hewson, Jim )
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:10:55 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer
In-Reply-To: <913D2770E951472682E495D05F936493@HAL9005>
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Thanks, Rocky, that's what I thought.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
at Beach Access Software
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:34 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer

I've never been able to solve it myself or heard of any way to prevent
it.
On OT there's been a long running thread on VPC which would seem to work
well - put any version of Office which won't play nice into a separate
virtual machine.


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hewson, Jim 
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 6:30 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer

I recently received a new machine from my employer.

My previous machine had A97 through A2003 installed with A2007 runtime
for
testing.

Everything worked fine... well each time either A2003 or A2007 started
the
first time the Windows installer would go through its thing.

On the new machine, in the beginning the IT folks couldn't get the
different
version to play nice together.

After many uninstalls and reinstalls etc. I finally have A97, A2000,
A2003 and the A2007 runtime.

My issue is that EVERY TIME A2003 starts the Windows Installer begins
and if
I hit cancel it cancels everything.

It starts even if I have another instance of it open and it doesn't
matter
how many times I have opened it up in the past it still starts.

 

The IT folks say the next step in to uninstall everything on the machine
and
reinstall all the software.

Does anyone know how to stop this from happening?  

 

MTA,

 

Jim H.

 


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From JHewson at nciinc.com  Wed Nov 19 09:32:04 2008
From: JHewson at nciinc.com (Hewson, Jim )
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:32:04 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer  SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A83EC399@sanex101.nciinc.com>
References: <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A83EC38E@sanex101.nciinc.com><913D2770E951472682E495D05F936493@HAL9005>
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Message-ID: <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A83EC39E@sanex101.nciinc.com>


My favorite IT guru fixed it for me.

He modified the registry.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Jet\4.0\Engines\Excel

He added Excel with
Name	Win32
Type	REG_SZ 
Data	c:\program files\Microsoft Office\office11\msaexp30.dll

That fixed the problem for me.
HTH

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hewson, Jim 
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:11 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer

Thanks, Rocky, that's what I thought.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
at Beach Access Software
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:34 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer

I've never been able to solve it myself or heard of any way to prevent
it.
On OT there's been a long running thread on VPC which would seem to work
well - put any version of Office which won't play nice into a separate
virtual machine.


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hewson, Jim 
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 6:30 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer

I recently received a new machine from my employer.

My previous machine had A97 through A2003 installed with A2007 runtime
for
testing.

Everything worked fine... well each time either A2003 or A2007 started
the
first time the Windows installer would go through its thing.

On the new machine, in the beginning the IT folks couldn't get the
different
version to play nice together.

After many uninstalls and reinstalls etc. I finally have A97, A2000,
A2003 and the A2007 runtime.

My issue is that EVERY TIME A2003 starts the Windows Installer begins
and if
I hit cancel it cancels everything.

It starts even if I have another instance of it open and it doesn't
matter
how many times I have opened it up in the past it still starts.

 

The IT folks say the next step in to uninstall everything on the machine
and
reinstall all the software.

Does anyone know how to stop this from happening?  

 

MTA,

 

Jim H.

 


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From DWUTKA at Marlow.com  Wed Nov 19 09:33:02 2008
From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:33:02 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer
In-Reply-To: <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A83EC38E@sanex101.nciinc.com>
Message-ID: <A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B201CDF708@MIEXCH.marlow.ii-vi.net>

Yes, it's called Virtual PC 2007.  Free from Microsoft.  Install the
most common version of Office on your machine, then create 'virtual'
machines to run other versions.

Personally, I have Office 97 and 2003 installed on all of my machines
and if I want a different version, I install it inside a VPC virtual
machine.

Drew

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hewson, Jim 
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:30 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer

I recently received a new machine from my employer.

My previous machine had A97 through A2003 installed with A2007 runtime
for testing.

Everything worked fine... well each time either A2003 or A2007 started
the first time the Windows installer would go through its thing.

On the new machine, in the beginning the IT folks couldn't get the
different version to play nice together.

After many uninstalls and reinstalls etc. I finally have A97, A2000,
A2003 and the A2007 runtime.

My issue is that EVERY TIME A2003 starts the Windows Installer begins
and if I hit cancel it cancels everything.

It starts even if I have another instance of it open and it doesn't
matter how many times I have opened it up in the past it still starts.

 

The IT folks say the next step in to uninstall everything on the machine
and reinstall all the software.

Does anyone know how to stop this from happening?  

 

MTA,

 

Jim H.

 


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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 19 09:38:36 2008
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:38:36 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: LIFE photo archive hosted by Google
Message-ID: <s9244129.081@cactus.dk>

Hi all

Sorry for this extremely OT, but it has to be mentioned for those not aware.
Google just did it again by publishing the perhaps best collection of photos anywhere - the 10 mio. pictures from the archive of LIFE Magazine, in top quality:

  http://images.google.com/hosted/life 

each with comments, credits, and links. Amazing. How do they do it?

Here is one picture the elder listers probably do remember - found in a few seconds, of course:

http://images.google.com/hosted/life/l?imgurl=d660d4fa80586341&q=Robert+kennedy+source:life&usg=__ud0gndetpMVNITri-A5Ua6YpeNM=&prev=/images%3Fq%3DRobert%2Bkennedy%2Bsource:life%26start%3D20%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3Dda%26sa%3DN

/gustav




From paul_lifopro at cox.net  Wed Nov 19 09:43:20 2008
From: paul_lifopro at cox.net (paul_lifopro)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:43:20 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing Capabilities
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-W46265A9EC5AF627B3DDF49D20D0@phx.gbl>
References: <002301c9468b$094eafc0$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2><BAY127-W34A22874EBF8B4F0A2547BD2160@phx.gbl><BAY127-W149D84AB6605E04B9AE119D2130@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <010301c94a5d$8cc56350$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2>

Mark,

Thanks you very much!!!

Have a great day.

Paul


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark A Matte [mailto:markamatte at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:12 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing Capabilities


Paul,
 
Sorry for the delay...I was 'offline' yesterday...this mdb is at home on a
personal machine.  I got your other email as well.  It does allow a 'user'
to select what objects are visible and rearrange the objects on the
screen...even the size of some objects.   I will try and put something
together tonight.
 
Thanks,
 
Mark A. Matte> From: paul_lifopro at cox.net> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:28:48 -0600> Subject: Re: [AccessD] MS Access
Drawing Capabilities> > Mark,> > This would probably work for me.> > Would
it be possible for me to get a copy of the code you used? I'm not> very
familiar with the mouseup and down event.> > Thanks very much for you help.>
> Paul> > -----Original Message-----> From: Mark A Matte
[mailto:markamatte at hotmail.com] > Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 8:03 AM>
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: Re: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing
Capabilities> > > I left 1 piece of info out...I wanted the same type of
events to fire for> each object type...so I wrote some code that used the
name of each object to> determine what function to call...and used a naming
convention religiously.> When a certain object was clicked...the border(a
label) would change> color...and a lookup would count and display on on the
object how many> records were associated with the table. So for each object
I had 3> things.Example:> > Text box---tbPool01> Label---lbPool01>
Image---imPool01> > Text box---tbBoot01> Label---lbBoot01> Image---imBoot01>
> So when you clicked on an object(image) it would pass its name to the>
function...parse the name...then depending on what 'kind' it was>
('boot','pool','stoo'' etc)...Mid([MyName],3,4)...would do specific things>
to that images corresponding text box and lable.> > Using this type of
naming...allowed me to store the names and positions of> all objects in a
table, loop through all items when the form opened and> positioning them
according to the data in the table....giving the user a way> to move items
around(UP,DOWN,RIGHT,LEFT buttons adding and subtracting> TWIPS) on the
screen and basically customizing it for their use.(even worked> in an MDE).>
> Good Luck,> > Mark A. Mattesh what you are looking for.> > Good luck.> >
Mark A. Matte>> From: paul_lifopro at cox.net> To:
accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Date: Fri, 14> Nov 2008 12:58:52 -0600>
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing Capabilities>> > I'm volunteering my
time to work on a small system for a non-profit>> organization.> > > > The
organization has an Expo every year and they have> been keeping track of>
the exhibitors, booth space and donated items using> Excel. While this>
works, its pretty time consuming and inefficient.> > > >> I have the DB,
Forms and reports pretty well finished. What I need help on>> is how to
create a diagram/chart of how the booths are set up in the>> building. It
seems like I should be able to interface Access and maybe>> Visio to get
this done.> > > > Ideally, I'd like to draw he booth setup on a> form and
then somehow let the> people click on a booth and have a modal form> come up
and show the> information about the booth i.e. size, is it taken, is> it a
premium booth,> etc.> > > > I've googled every key word I can think of> !>
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 19 10:24:35 2008
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:24:35 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer  SOLVED
Message-ID: <s9244bf9.086@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

Are you sure about this? That key existed and exists in my Registry but it doesn't change, and the installer for each of A2003 and A2007 insists to run when the other version has been launched.

/gustav

>>> JHewson at nciinc.com 19-11-2008 16:32 >>>

My favorite IT guru fixed it for me.

He modified the registry.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Jet\4.0\Engines\Excel

He added Excel with
Name	Win32
Type	REG_SZ 
Data	c:\program files\Microsoft Office\office11\msaexp30.dll

That fixed the problem for me.
HTH

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hewson, Jim 
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:11 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer

Thanks, Rocky, that's what I thought.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
at Beach Access Software
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:34 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer

I've never been able to solve it myself or heard of any way to prevent
it.
On OT there's been a long running thread on VPC which would seem to work
well - put any version of Office which won't play nice into a separate
virtual machine.


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com 
www.bchacc.com 
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hewson, Jim 
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 6:30 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer

I recently received a new machine from my employer.

My previous machine had A97 through A2003 installed with A2007 runtime for
testing.

Everything worked fine... well each time either A2003 or A2007 started the
first time the Windows installer would go through its thing.

On the new machine, in the beginning the IT folks couldn't get the different
version to play nice together.

After many uninstalls and reinstalls etc. I finally have A97, A2000,
A2003 and the A2007 runtime.

My issue is that EVERY TIME A2003 starts the Windows Installer begins and if
I hit cancel it cancels everything.

It starts even if I have another instance of it open and it doesn't matter
how many times I have opened it up in the past it still starts.

 

The IT folks say the next step in to uninstall everything on the machine and
reinstall all the software.

Does anyone know how to stop this from happening?  

 

MTA,

 

Jim H.





From JHewson at nciinc.com  Wed Nov 19 13:46:10 2008
From: JHewson at nciinc.com (Hewson, Jim )
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:46:10 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer  SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <s9244bf9.086@cactus.dk>
References: <s9244bf9.086@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A83EC3B1@sanex101.nciinc.com>

That's the only thing that was changed and now I don't get the Windows
Installer any more.

He found the solution on KBAlertz KB article 914830

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:25 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer SOLVED

Hi Jim

Are you sure about this? That key existed and exists in my Registry but
it doesn't change, and the installer for each of A2003 and A2007 insists
to run when the other version has been launched.

/gustav

>>> JHewson at nciinc.com 19-11-2008 16:32 >>>

My favorite IT guru fixed it for me.

He modified the registry.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Jet\4.0\Engines\Excel

He added Excel with
Name	Win32
Type	REG_SZ 
Data	c:\program files\Microsoft Office\office11\msaexp30.dll

That fixed the problem for me.
HTH

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hewson, Jim 
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:11 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer

Thanks, Rocky, that's what I thought.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
at Beach Access Software
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:34 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer

I've never been able to solve it myself or heard of any way to prevent
it.
On OT there's been a long running thread on VPC which would seem to work
well - put any version of Office which won't play nice into a separate
virtual machine.


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com 
www.bchacc.com 
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hewson, Jim 
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 6:30 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer

I recently received a new machine from my employer.

My previous machine had A97 through A2003 installed with A2007 runtime
for
testing.

Everything worked fine... well each time either A2003 or A2007 started
the
first time the Windows installer would go through its thing.

On the new machine, in the beginning the IT folks couldn't get the
different
version to play nice together.

After many uninstalls and reinstalls etc. I finally have A97, A2000,
A2003 and the A2007 runtime.

My issue is that EVERY TIME A2003 starts the Windows Installer begins
and if
I hit cancel it cancels everything.

It starts even if I have another instance of it open and it doesn't
matter
how many times I have opened it up in the past it still starts.

 

The IT folks say the next step in to uninstall everything on the machine
and
reinstall all the software.

Does anyone know how to stop this from happening?  

 

MTA,

 

Jim H.



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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Wed Nov 19 14:30:50 2008
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:30:50 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Blank Lines in report
In-Reply-To: <010401c93ac3$0642bac0$845ea27a@personald6374f>
References: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C107540A0@houex1.kindermorgan.com>
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Message-ID: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C14280CDE@houex1.kindermorgan.com>

Here is the code I ended up with to get a blank row after certain row numbers. Works good on a one page report. I have not pursued it any further.

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

' Declarations section
Private RowCount As Long
'---------------------------------------------

Private Sub Detail_Print(Cancel As Integer, PrintCount As Integer)
    If Me.Detail.WillContinue = False Then
        RowCount = RowCount + 1
    End If

   If RowCount = 4 Or RowCount = 8 Or RowCount = 12 Or RowCount = 16 Or RowCount = 20 Or RowCount = 22 Then
        Me.NextRecord = False
        Me.PrintSection = False
    Else
        Me.NextRecord = True
        Me.PrintSection = True
    End If
End Sub

Private Sub Report_Open(Cancel As Integer)
     RowCount = 0
End Sub

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of A.D.Tejpal
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 2:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Blank Lines in report


Kaup,

    Apparently, you wish to insert a blank line after every three records upto 15th record and then another blank line after the sixteenth record. Thereafter, similar cycle to be repeated from record 17 to 32 and so on.

    Sample code in report's module as given below, should get you the desired results. It would be noted that for incrementing row count variable, detail section's print event has been used instead of the format event. The latter would have led to unwanted increments in case of extra cycle of formatting caused by a calculated text box having [Pages] as part of its expression.

    Check against WillContinue property of detail section is found necessary so as to avoid phantom increment to row count variable at the end of a page.

    The suggested solution has been tested at my end on Access 2003 desktop. You might like to try it out and confirm the outcome.

    Imp:  Please make sure that the setting [Event Procedure] appears on Event tab of properties sheet against report's open event and detail section's print event.

Best wishes,
A.D. Tejpal
------------

' Code in report's module
'==============================
' Declarations section
Private RowCount As Long
Private Const RowGrpMinor As Long = 3
Private Const RowGrpMajor As Long = 16
'---------------------------------------------

Private Sub Detail_Print(Cancel As Integer, _
                                    PrintCount As Integer)
    If Me.Detail.WillContinue = False Then
        RowCount = RowCount + 1
    End If

    RowCount = IIf(RowCount <= (RowGrpMajor + _
                  (RowCount \ (RowGrpMinor + 1)) + 1), _
                  RowCount, 1)

    If RowCount Mod (RowGrpMinor + 1) = 0 _
                  Or RowCount = (RowGrpMajor + _
                  (RowCount \ (RowGrpMinor + 1)) + 1) Then
        Me.NextRecord = False
        Me.PrintSection = False
    Else
        Me.NextRecord = True
        Me.PrintSection = True
    End If
End Sub
'---------------------------------------------

Private Sub Report_Open(Cancel As Integer)
    RowCount = 0
End Sub
'===============================

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Kaup, Chester
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
  Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 21:32
  Subject: [AccessD] Blank Lines in report


  I have some data in a table I need to display in a report. The problem is I need a blank line in the report after the 3rd, 6th, 9th, 12th, 15th and 16th record. I found some code in MS article 208696 but that is only for every nth record. The stumbling block is the last interval. Maybe I could put some blank records in the source data?

  Chester Kaup
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 19 14:56:05 2008
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:56:05 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer  SOLVED
Message-ID: <s9248b8a.090@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

Well that is about something different - a missing service pack - and doesn't relate to A2007 at all.

So, lucky you, your case must be different from most others including mine.

/gustav

>>> JHewson at nciinc.com 19-11-2008 20:46 >>>
That's the only thing that was changed and now I don't get the Windows
Installer any more.

He found the solution on KBAlertz KB article 914830

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:25 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer SOLVED

Hi Jim

Are you sure about this? That key existed and exists in my Registry but
it doesn't change, and the installer for each of A2003 and A2007 insists
to run when the other version has been launched.

/gustav

>>> JHewson at nciinc.com 19-11-2008 16:32 >>>

My favorite IT guru fixed it for me.

He modified the registry.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Jet\4.0\Engines\Excel

He added Excel with
Name	Win32
Type	REG_SZ 
Data	c:\program files\Microsoft Office\office11\msaexp30.dll

That fixed the problem for me.
HTH

Jim

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Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:11 AM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer

Thanks, Rocky, that's what I thought.

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I've never been able to solve it myself or heard of any way to prevent it.
On OT there's been a long running thread on VPC which would seem to work well - put any version of Office which won't play nice into a separate virtual machine.


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
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Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 6:30 AM
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Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer

I recently received a new machine from my employer.

My previous machine had A97 through A2003 installed with A2007 runtime for testing.

Everything worked fine... well each time either A2003 or A2007 started the first time the Windows installer would go through its thing.

On the new machine, in the beginning the IT folks couldn't get the different version to play nice together.

After many uninstalls and reinstalls etc. I finally have A97, A2000, A2003 and the A2007 runtime.

My issue is that EVERY TIME A2003 starts the Windows Installer begins and if I hit cancel it cancels everything.

It starts even if I have another instance of it open and it doesn't matter how many times I have opened it up in the past it still starts.

 
The IT folks say the next step in to uninstall everything on the machine and reinstall all the software.

Does anyone know how to stop this from happening?  

 

MTA,

 

Jim H.





From Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au  Wed Nov 19 15:33:47 2008
From: Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au (Darryl Collins)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:33:47 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Survey
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heh.. Yeah, we still are on XP Pro, Office 2000, SQL Server 2000 and the Mayans forecast would be risky to any upgrade plans here too.  It would be Office XP or 2003 next anyway....

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I work for what some might call a 'large' company...and we just moved to XP within the last 6 months...from 97...

...according to the Mayans...the world will be gone by the time we are due for another upgrade.

Thanks,

Mark> From: accessd at shaw.ca> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:35:21 -0800> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey> > You are so right Charlotte.> > Jim> > -----Original Message-----> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 9:11 AM> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey> > That may be the perception, that relation databases are too complex, but> we all know it isn't true, or at least doesn't need to be true. I've> had many clients over the years who caught on right away when I> explained the way data interconnects, and they really like the results.> There's just a huge fear factor associated with "database" that simply> doesn't need to be there.> > Charlotte Foust > > -----Original Message-----> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf !
 Of Jim Lawrence> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 8:56 AM> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey> > Hi Gary:> > According to stats there is more data stored in Excel spreadsheets than> all databases combined hence the focus on that product. Relational> databases are too complex for many managers and accountants.> > Jim > > -----Original Message-----> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 7:19 AM> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Survey> > Well I wouldn't myself but my users would. Excel is the preferred output> format for all the queries I run. I have to split things into multiple> files pretty often. Access scares them so they use Excel essentially as> a database and so run up against the row limit pretty often.> > GK> > On 11/17/08, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsy!
 stems.com> wrote:> > Think about what you're saying, Gary. Would you r
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From lmrazek at lcm-res.com  Wed Nov 19 16:05:12 2008
From: lmrazek at lcm-res.com (Lawrence Mrazek)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:05:12 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB
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Thanks Drew and Lambert:

I'm going to work up a couple of sample MDBs to test the next time I'm at
this client, your assistance is greatly appreciated!

Larry Mrazek
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 12:05 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB

Would this work for you? ...

Private Declare Function LogonUser Lib "Advapi32" Alias "LogonUserA" (ByVal
_
    lpszUserName As String, ByVal lpszDomain As String, _
    ByVal lpszPassword As String, ByVal dwLogonType As Long, _
    ByVal dwLogonProvider As Long, phToken As Long) As Long Private Declare
Function CloseHandle Lib "kernel32" (ByVal hObject As Long) As _
    Long
Const LOGON32_PROVIDER_DEFAULT = 0&
Const LOGON32_LOGON_NETWORK = 3&

' Check whether a username/password pair is correct '
' if DOMAIN is omitted, it uses the local account database ' and then asks
trusted domains to search their account databases ' until it finds the
account or the search is exhausted ' use DOMAIN="." to search only the local
account database '
'  IMPORTANT: works only under Windows NT and 2000 and XP

Private Function CheckWindowsUser(ByVal UserName As String, _
    ByVal Password As String, Optional ByVal Domain As String) As Boolean
    Dim hToken As Long, ret As Long

    ' provide a default for the Domain name
    If Len(Domain) = 0 Then Domain = vbNullString
    ' check the username/password pair
    ' using LOGON32_LOGON_NETWORK delivers the best performance
    ret = LogonUser(UserName, Domain, Password, LOGON32_LOGON_NETWORK, _
        LOGON32_PROVIDER_DEFAULT, hToken)
    
    ' a non-zero value means success
    If ret Then
        CheckWindowsUser = True
        CloseHandle hToken
    End If
End Function 

Lambert

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lawrence Mrazek
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 12:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB

Hi Drew:

Sorry about the delay in responding; trying to get over some sort of illness
brought home by the kids!

Basically, I think they'd like to do a lookup against AD, compare against a
username in the application table, if both match, then allow them to
proceed. These apps are already secured by Active Directory permissions,
most of them are custom reporting and analysis tools I developed to provide
them with functionality lacking in their enterprise software. 

Do you think the above scenario is doable?

Larry Mrazek
ph. 314-432-5886
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
http://www.lcm-res.com


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 9:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB

So what kind of code are you looking for to get there?  Just the basic
logged in user stuff, or do you want some code to query/authenticate against
AD?

Drew

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lawrence Mrazek
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 1:19 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB

Hi Drew:

Thanks for the great response; it really helped bring everything into focus.


I might only need to query against Active Directory, so a common user
framework running on all of their apps might do the trick.

Larry Mrazek
ph. 314-432-5886
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
http://www.lcm-res.com


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 3:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB

Ok, you asked, so sit back and read.  I am not going to include any code at
this point, because there would be too much to throw at you at once!

To start with, there are a few ways to get AD information.  The easiest and
least code intensive is to just go off of NT User name (or Active Directory
Account name).  To retrieve this name, is a very simple function (just a few
lines of code).  You can also retrieve the name of the domain you are on
with a simple line of code too.  So if you just want to know that jsmith on
MyCompany domain is getting into your database, you can use those two simple
functions to verify that.

HOWEVER, the steps above are going to go off of the credentials of the user
currently logged into the machine.  It will even work if the user is
technically 'offline', because the functions for those will go off of the
local machine's cached credentials.  This is usually as far as most Access
developers will go to integrate their systems with Active Directory.

However, if you want to go further, you can actually 'query' Active
Directory.  Querying AD is a little different then Access Queries.  The
language is a bit different, different qualifiers, structure, etc.
However, by querying AD, you can get a list of all current users, groups,
group membership, etc.  You can also 'authenticate' a user against Active
directory.  I have a function that will do that if you provide the username
and password.  

So, if you truly want to make a system that is integrated with Active
Directory, I would build a 'user framework'.  I do this with a global user
class.  When it initializes, it gets all the current user information based
off of the logged in user, but it can be changed to represent another user
through the authentication method I described earlier.  All
functions/features are then verified through this class.

I will caution you, however, that while Access is a great RAD tool, when it
is used as a Front End, it is less then secure.  I personally have never
used AD integration with an Access FE, I have used it with a VB FE and with
Web based front ends, where the database is not directly available to the
users.  So if you are looking to use AD integration as a simple method of
user administration, go ahead, but if you are planning on user AD
integration for security purposes, I would recommend a different platform
for your front end.

Drew

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lawrence Mrazek
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 1:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Active Directory Authentication or Lookup for DB

Hi Folks:

Is it possible to use Active Directory to login to an Access DB (XP in this
case)? Can I access the current AD username and groups via VBA code?

I'm just trying to see what's possible in this area right now and if anyone
is using this functionality in their apps. 

Thanks in advance. 

Larry Mrazek
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Wed Nov 19 17:00:05 2008
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:00:05 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Broken References
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Message-ID: <C90C474E51704E9CB4415752E918CE0C@MINSTER>

Hi folks

If you have 2 machines with different versions of Office, and your app needs
a reference to Excel, how do you achieve that without errors? I kind of
stumble through this when I get it but I've never fully understood.
Sometimes it seems that if I compile on pc1 and copy to pc2 the app
recompiles when you start the app, whereas in other situations it seems to
error. Is it anything to do with which way you're doing it - eg if you
compile on a pc with, say, Office 2000 and then move the app to where
there's Office XP that's ok, but the reverse fails. Anything like that?
Anyone know the rule?

I'm headed for bed so I'll look forward to your pearls of wisdom when I
crawl out of the sack.

Cheers

Andy Lacey




From edzedz at comcast.net  Wed Nov 19 21:18:44 2008
From: edzedz at comcast.net (Edward Zuris)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:18:44 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Broken References
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 I run into a problem like that from time to time.

 What I do to get around it, is sort of primitive.

 When in design mode of a VBA module, remove
 the offending reference(s), or any reference,
 then add it back in.   Compile then and save. 

 Sometimes when using a non-Microsoft OCX, that
 ends up in a different directory, or a system
 that is some how different, a similar issue occurs.

 It would be nice to find better work-a-round than
 what was just described.


Andy Lacey wrote:
> Hi folks
>
> If you have 2 machines with different versions of Office, and your app needs
> a reference to Excel, how do you achieve that without errors? I kind of
> stumble through this when I get it but I've never fully understood.
> Sometimes it seems that if I compile on pc1 and copy to pc2 the app
> recompiles when you start the app, whereas in other situations it seems to
> error. Is it anything to do with which way you're doing it - eg if you
> compile on a pc with, say, Office 2000 and then move the app to where
> there's Office XP that's ok, but the reverse fails. Anything like that?
> Anyone know the rule?
>
> I'm headed for bed so I'll look forward to your pearls of wisdom when I
> crawl out of the sack.
>
> Cheers
>
> Andy Lacey
>
>   


From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Nov 20 01:14:54 2008
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:14:54 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Broken References
In-Reply-To: <4924D714.1090603@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <9251F3EB40BF4717978A65D9AF8F5103@MINSTER>

Yes, that's what I do but now I'm dealing with a remote site where I need
this sort of thing to just work without my intervention.

Andy Lacey

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Sent: 20 November 2008 03:19
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Broken References



 I run into a problem like that from time to time.

 What I do to get around it, is sort of primitive.

 When in design mode of a VBA module, remove
 the offending reference(s), or any reference,
 then add it back in.   Compile then and save. 

 Sometimes when using a non-Microsoft OCX, that
 ends up in a different directory, or a system
 that is some how different, a similar issue occurs.

 It would be nice to find better work-a-round than
 what was just described.


Andy Lacey wrote:
> Hi folks
>
> If you have 2 machines with different versions of Office, and your app 
> needs a reference to Excel, how do you achieve that without errors? I 
> kind of stumble through this when I get it but I've never fully 
> understood. Sometimes it seems that if I compile on pc1 and copy to 
> pc2 the app recompiles when you start the app, whereas in other 
> situations it seems to error. Is it anything to do with which way 
> you're doing it - eg if you compile on a pc with, say, Office 2000 and 
> then move the app to where there's Office XP that's ok, but the 
> reverse fails. Anything like that? Anyone know the rule?
>
> I'm headed for bed so I'll look forward to your pearls of wisdom when 
> I crawl out of the sack.
>
> Cheers
>
> Andy Lacey
>
>   
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 20 01:41:04 2008
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:41:04 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Broken References
Message-ID: <s92522c7.099@cactus.dk>

Hi Andy

Refer to the oldest version.
That may not work, though. If so, you will have to deal with it actively. Look up and study the old threads on the subject:

2006-09: DAO References in New DBs
2006-08: Removing a missing reference
2006-07: Set references programmatically
2004-08: Test for a Particular Reference in Code
2003-07: Broken References in Runtime AXP and A97. Solved!
2002-02: Checking References in Code
2001-09: Set References through Code
2001-07: Conditional reference

The general trick is to remove _a_ reference and add it back. Then recompile, which is true challenge as this is not as easy as it sounds, because running code cannot compile itself.

Another option is to use late binding. It's a bit slower and won't allow for IntelliSense during development, though a trick to avoid this is to reference the library when writing code, then remove the reference and revert to late binding. This topic has been discussed many times through the years.

/gustav

>>> andy at minstersystems.co.uk 20-11-2008 00:00 >>>
Hi folks

If you have 2 machines with different versions of Office, and your app needs
a reference to Excel, how do you achieve that without errors? I kind of
stumble through this when I get it but I've never fully understood.
Sometimes it seems that if I compile on pc1 and copy to pc2 the app
recompiles when you start the app, whereas in other situations it seems to
error. Is it anything to do with which way you're doing it - eg if you
compile on a pc with, say, Office 2000 and then move the app to where
there's Office XP that's ok, but the reverse fails. Anything like that?
Anyone know the rule?

I'm headed for bed so I'll look forward to your pearls of wisdom when I
crawl out of the sack.

Cheers

Andy Lacey




From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Thu Nov 20 02:11:24 2008
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:11:24 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Broken References
In-Reply-To: <s92522c7.099@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <F98932A9CB554D8F871B7184B0232772@MINSTER>

Good thoughts as ever Gustav, thanks. 

Andy Lacey

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Sent: 20 November 2008 07:41
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Broken References


Hi Andy

Refer to the oldest version.
That may not work, though. If so, you will have to deal with it actively.
Look up and study the old threads on the subject:

2006-09: DAO References in New DBs
2006-08: Removing a missing reference
2006-07: Set references programmatically
2004-08: Test for a Particular Reference in Code
2003-07: Broken References in Runtime AXP and A97. Solved!
2002-02: Checking References in Code
2001-09: Set References through Code
2001-07: Conditional reference

The general trick is to remove _a_ reference and add it back. Then
recompile, which is true challenge as this is not as easy as it sounds,
because running code cannot compile itself.

Another option is to use late binding. It's a bit slower and won't allow for
IntelliSense during development, though a trick to avoid this is to
reference the library when writing code, then remove the reference and
revert to late binding. This topic has been discussed many times through the
years.

/gustav

>>> andy at minstersystems.co.uk 20-11-2008 00:00 >>>
Hi folks

If you have 2 machines with different versions of Office, and your app needs
a reference to Excel, how do you achieve that without errors? I kind of
stumble through this when I get it but I've never fully understood.
Sometimes it seems that if I compile on pc1 and copy to pc2 the app
recompiles when you start the app, whereas in other situations it seems to
error. Is it anything to do with which way you're doing it - eg if you
compile on a pc with, say, Office 2000 and then move the app to where
there's Office XP that's ok, but the reverse fails. Anything like that?
Anyone know the rule?

I'm headed for bed so I'll look forward to your pearls of wisdom when I
crawl out of the sack.

Cheers

Andy Lacey


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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 20 02:13:01 2008
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:13:01 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: The Art & Science of CSS
Message-ID: <s9252a2f.002@cactus.dk>

Hi all

A free 200 pages book on CSS is for download for a week a so:

  http://twitaway.aws.sitepoint.com/

You'll have to give away your e-mal address for the download but that's all.

/gustav




From JHewson at nciinc.com  Thu Nov 20 07:33:55 2008
From: JHewson at nciinc.com (Hewson, Jim )
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:33:55 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer  SOLVED
In-Reply-To: <s9248b8a.090@cactus.dk>
References: <s9248b8a.090@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <7E02B06E41E5404589EDDDA2BAA1C5A83EC3BF@sanex101.nciinc.com>

I do have Office SP3 and all the updates for Windows, Office, and
everything else.  Yes, when different versions of Access 2003 and 2007
start Windows Installer still runs.  My problem was Windows Installer
would start every time Access 2003 would start... even if it was already
open and I wanted to start another database.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:56 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer SOLVED

Hi Jim

Well that is about something different - a missing service pack - and
doesn't relate to A2007 at all.

So, lucky you, your case must be different from most others including
mine.

/gustav

>>> JHewson at nciinc.com 19-11-2008 20:46 >>>
That's the only thing that was changed and now I don't get the Windows
Installer any more.

He found the solution on KBAlertz KB article 914830

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:25 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer SOLVED

Hi Jim

Are you sure about this? That key existed and exists in my Registry but
it doesn't change, and the installer for each of A2003 and A2007 insists
to run when the other version has been launched.

/gustav

>>> JHewson at nciinc.com 19-11-2008 16:32 >>>

My favorite IT guru fixed it for me.

He modified the registry.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Jet\4.0\Engines\Excel

He added Excel with
Name	Win32
Type	REG_SZ 
Data	c:\program files\Microsoft Office\office11\msaexp30.dll

That fixed the problem for me.
HTH

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hewson, Jim 
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:11 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer

Thanks, Rocky, that's what I thought.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
at Beach Access Software
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:34 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer

I've never been able to solve it myself or heard of any way to prevent
it.
On OT there's been a long running thread on VPC which would seem to work
well - put any version of Office which won't play nice into a separate
virtual machine.


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com 
www.bchacc.com 
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hewson, Jim 
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 6:30 AM
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer

I recently received a new machine from my employer.

My previous machine had A97 through A2003 installed with A2007 runtime
for testing.

Everything worked fine... well each time either A2003 or A2007 started
the first time the Windows installer would go through its thing.

On the new machine, in the beginning the IT folks couldn't get the
different version to play nice together.

After many uninstalls and reinstalls etc. I finally have A97, A2000,
A2003 and the A2007 runtime.

My issue is that EVERY TIME A2003 starts the Windows Installer begins
and if I hit cancel it cancels everything.

It starts even if I have another instance of it open and it doesn't
matter how many times I have opened it up in the past it still starts.

 
The IT folks say the next step in to uninstall everything on the machine
and reinstall all the software.

Does anyone know how to stop this from happening?  

 

MTA,

 

Jim H.



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From jeff.developer at gmail.com  Thu Nov 20 07:34:04 2008
From: jeff.developer at gmail.com (Jeff Barrows)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:34:04 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] [dba-OT] Time to Become a Vegetarian?
Message-ID: <2dad32080811200534y47a516f8k4077bceb40dd3383@mail.gmail.com>

Here is some information on C.Diff :
http://aids.about.com/od/otherconditions/a/cdiff.htm

I know that the site is technically about aids/HIV, but the information
seems to agree with what we were told when my Dad passed away from C.Diff a
couple of years ago.

C.Diff is ALREADY in your body, everyone has it.  The problem seems to start
when too many anti-biotics are introduced into the body killing off the
bacteris that help control the growth of the c.diff bacteria.

If anyone really wants additional information, I can check and see where we
were directed when we had questions.


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 20 08:05:50 2008
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:05:50 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003 Windows Installer  SOLVED
Message-ID: <s9257cf5.029@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

Oh, two different things. Sorry.

/gustav

>>> JHewson at nciinc.com 20-11-2008 14:33 >>>
I do have Office SP3 and all the updates for Windows, Office, and
everything else.  Yes, when different versions of Access 2003 and 2007
start Windows Installer still runs.  My problem was Windows Installer
would start every time Access 2003 would start... even if it was already
open and I wanted to start another database.

Jim





From carbonnb at gmail.com  Thu Nov 20 08:07:28 2008
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:07:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Cottage renting web sites samples
In-Reply-To: <000201c9494a$2c21ccf0$6401a8c0@nant>
References: <000201c9494a$2c21ccf0$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920811200607i1f4d626cob596548f156e3dea@mail.gmail.com>

Have a look at http://www.harmerscottages.com/

It's my ex-in-laws website for their cottages.

Bryan

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:52 AM, Shamil Salakhetdinov
<shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm looking for samples of cottages renting web sites - relatively small,
> user-friendly, and functional, looking attractive and tempting to rent
> advertised cottage(s) immediately, and run, ride, drive, fly there for
> vacations - something like this one:
>
> http://www.hookipabayview.com/index.html
>
> :)
>
> Any samples would be very helpful here and would be very much appreciated.
>
> The above site looks good but the one, which I'm looking for should have
> pages fitting 1024x768 or even 800x600 screen resolutions still having all
> the attributes listed above: relatively small, user-friendly, functional,...
>
> Looking for some ideas for a probable cottage renting small web site
> project...
>
> Thank you.
>
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 20 08:10:02 2008
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:10:02 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing Capabilities Part I
In-Reply-To: <010301c94a5d$8cc56350$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2>
References: <002301c9468b$094eafc0$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2><BAY127-W34A22874EBF8B4F0A2547BD2160@phx.gbl><BAY127-W149D84AB6605E04B9AE119D2130@phx.gbl>
	<013901c948e2$554e8db0$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2>
	<BAY127-W46265A9EC5AF627B3DDF49D20D0@phx.gbl> 
	<010301c94a5d$8cc56350$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2>
Message-ID: <BAY127-W176536CD49567518883B33D20C0@phx.gbl>


I tried sending this yesterday...but the message was too long...lets try again!!!
...and again...I'll leave my other posts at the bottom in case they are relecant.  I'll send in 2 parts********** Paul, I don't  have the code available for the "do stuff when you click"...easy enough by calling the same function from every object(event of your choice)...that parses the object name...and displays what you need.  Here is the code that fires when my form opens...it paints the form and organizes all the objects on the form.  Below that is the code from the other form I use to move the objects around.  Keep in mind...the moving/organizing of the objects is all table driven(left,top,height, width all stored in a single  record for each object).  It's barely clear to me...so let me know if you have questions. Thanks, MarkA. Matte  Function PaintForm()    Dim strSQL As String    Dim strControlName As String    Dim cntl As Control    Dim ret    Dim MyRst As Recordset    Set db = CurrentDb()    Set MyRst = db.OpenRecordset("tblDesign", DB_OPEN_DYNASET)            strSQL = "[Active] > -2"    MyRst.FindFirst strSQL    Do Until MyRst.NoMatch        strControlName = MyRst!ControlNumber        Set cntl = Forms!frmtables(strControlName)        cntl.Top = MyRst![Top]        cntl.Left = MyRst![Left]        cntl.Visible = False        If MyRst!Active = False Then GoTo Skip        Select Case Left(MyRst!ControlNumber, 6)            Case "pool_p"                cntl.Visible = True                If MyRst!Type = "V" Then                    cntl.Width = 586                    cntl.Height = 1020                    cntl.Picture = "C:\Documents and Settings\Mark\Desktop\Pool\PTable2.gif"                Else                    cntl.Width = 1035                    cntl.Height = 600                    cntl.Picture = "C:\Documents and Settings\Mark\Desktop\Pool\PTable3.gif"                End If                            Case "labelp"                cntl.Visible = True                If MyRst!Type = "V" Then                    cntl.Width = 540                    cntl.Height = 1020                    cntl.TopMargin = 216                Else                    cntl.Width = 1020                    cntl.Height = 600                    cntl.TopMargin = 0                End If                        Case "countp"                cntl.Visible = True                If MyRst!Type = "V" Then                    cntl.Width = 420                    cntl.Height = 600                    cntl.TopMargin = 43                Else                    cntl.Width = 420                    cntl.Height = 600                    cntl.TopMargin = 144                End If            Case "bar__b"                cntl.Visible = True                cntl.Height = MyRst![Height]                cntl.Width = MyRst![Width]            Case "dine_d"                cntl.Visible = True            Case "labeld"                cntl.Visible = True            Case "stools"                cntl.Visible = True            Case "labels"                cntl.Visible = True                            End SelectSkip:        Set cntl = Forms!frmtables(strControlName)        MyRst.FindNext strSQL    LoopEnd Function > I left 1 piece of info out...I wanted the same type of events to fire for> each object type...so I wrote some code that used the name of each object to> determine what function to call...and used a naming convention religiously.> When a certain object was clicked...the border(a label) would change> color...and a lookup would count and display on on the object how many> records were associated with the table. So for each object I had 3> things.Example:> > Text box---tbPool01> Label---lbPool01> Image---imPool01> > Text box---tbBoot01> Label---lbBoot01> Image---imBoot01> > So when you clicked on an object(image) it would pass its name to the> function...parse the name...then depending on what 'kind' it was> ('boot','pool','stoo'' etc)...Mid([MyName],3,4)...would do specific things> to that images corresponding text box and lable.> > Using this type of naming...allowed me to store the names and positions of> all objects in a table, loop through all items when the form opened and> positioning them according to the data in the table....giving the user a way> to move items around(UP,DOWN,RIGHT,LEFT buttons adding and subtracting> TWIPS) on the screen and basically customizing it for their use.(even worked> in an MDE).> > Good Luck,> > Mark A. Matte
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 20 08:13:36 2008
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:13:36 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing Capabilities Part II
In-Reply-To: <010301c94a5d$8cc56350$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2>
References: <002301c9468b$094eafc0$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2><BAY127-W34A22874EBF8B4F0A2547BD2160@phx.gbl><BAY127-W149D84AB6605E04B9AE119D2130@phx.gbl>
	<013901c948e2$554e8db0$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2>
	<BAY127-W46265A9EC5AF627B3DDF49D20D0@phx.gbl> 
	<010301c94a5d$8cc56350$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2>
Message-ID: <BAY127-W47E918E95A5E0467E79859D20C0@phx.gbl>


Make that 3 parts!!!!!
 
********CODE FROM FORM THAT MOVES  STUFF ON MAIN FORM**********Private Sub cboImageType_AfterUpdate()Me!cboControlNumber.RequeryMe!sfrmtblDesign.RequeryMe!cboControlNumber = NullMe!cboLT.Enabled = TrueMe!cboDN.Enabled = TrueSelect Case Me!cboImageType    Case "bar__b"        Me!Adjust.Visible = True        Me!VHTable.Visible = False        Me!Adjust = 2    Case "pool_p"        Me!Adjust.Visible = False        Me!VHTable.Visible = True    Case "dine_d"        Me!Adjust.Visible = False        Me!VHTable.Visible = False    Case "stools"        Me!Adjust.Visible = False        Me!VHTable.Visible = False    End SelectIf Me!cboControlNumber.Column(0) = "V" Then    Me!VHTable = 1Else    Me!VHTable = 2End IfEnd Sub Private Sub cboUP_Click()Dim I As ControlDim L As ControlDim C As ControlDim ChoicevMove = Me!DistanceSelect Case Left(Me!cboControlNumber, 1)    Case "p"        Choice = "Pool_" & Me!cboControlNumber            Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)            I.Top = I.Top - vMove            Me!txtLeft = I.Left            Me!txtTop = I.Top        Choice = "Label" & Me!cboControlNumber            Set L = Forms!frmtables(Choice)            L.Top = L.Top - vMove        Choice = "count" & Me!cboControlNumber            Set C = Forms!frmtables(Choice)            C.Top = C.Top - vMove    Case "b"        Choice = "Bar__" & Me!cboControlNumber        Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)        If Me!Adjust = 1 Then            I.Height = I.Height + vMove            Me!txtHeight = I.Height            Me!txtWidth = I.Width            Me!txtTop = I.Top            Me!txtLeft = I.Left        Else            I.Top = I.Top - vMove            Me!txtLeft = I.Left            Me!txtTop = I.Top            Me!txtHeight = I.Height            Me!txtWidth = I.Width        End If    Case "d"        Choice = "Dine_" & Me!cboControlNumber        Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)            I.Top = I.Top - vMove            Me!txtLeft = I.Left            Me!txtTop = I.Top        Choice = "Label" & Me!cboControlNumber            Set L = Forms!frmtables(Choice)            L.Top = L.Top - vMove            Me!txtLeft = L.Left            Me!txtTop = L.Top    Case "s"        Choice = "Stool" & Me!cboControlNumber        Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)            I.Top = I.Top - vMove            Me!txtLeft = I.Left            Me!txtTop = I.Top        Choice = "Label" & Me!cboControlNumber            Set L = Forms!frmtables(Choice)            L.Top = L.Top - vMove            Me!txtLeft = L.Left            Me!txtTop = L.Top    End SelectSaveSetupEnd Sub Private Sub cboRT_Click()Dim I As ControlDim L As ControlDim C As ControlDim ChoicevMove = Me!DistanceSelect Case Left(Me!cboControlNumber, 1)    Case "p"        Choice = "Pool_" & Me!cboControlNumber            Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)            I.Left = I.Left + vMove            Me!txtLeft = I.Left            Me!txtTop = I.Top        Choice = "Label" & Me!cboControlNumber            Set L = Forms!frmtables(Choice)            L.Left = L.Left + vMove        Choice = "count" & Me!cboControlNumber            Set C = Forms!frmtables(Choice)            C.Left = C.Left + vMove    Case "b"        Choice = "Bar__" & Me!cboControlNumber        Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)        If Me!Adjust = 1 Then            I.Width = I.Width + vMove            Me!txtLeft = I.Left            Me!txtTop = I.Top            Me!txtHeight = I.Height            Me!txtWidth = I.Width        Else            I.Left = I.Left + vMove            Me!txtLeft = I.Left            Me!txtTop = I.Top            Me!txtHeight = I.Height            Me!txtWidth = I.Width        End If    Case "d"        Choice = "Dine_" & Me!cboControlNumber        Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)            I.Left = I.Left + vMove            Me!txtLeft = I.Left            Me!txtTop = I.Top        Choice = "Label" & Me!cboControlNumber            Set L = Forms!frmtables(Choice)            L.Left = L.Left + vMove            Me!txtLeft = L.Left            Me!txtTop = L.Top    Case "s"        Choice = "Stool" & Me!cboControlNumber        Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)            I.Left = I.Left + vMove            Me!txtLeft = I.Left            Me!txtTop = I.Top        Choice = "Label" & Me!cboControlNumber            Set L = Forms!frmtables(Choice)            L.Left = L.Left + vMove            Me!txtLeft = L.Left            Me!txtTop = L.Top    End SelectSaveSetupEnd Sub ***>>>TO BE CONTINUED<<<***
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 20 08:14:44 2008
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:14:44 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing Capabilities Part III
In-Reply-To: <010301c94a5d$8cc56350$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2>
References: <002301c9468b$094eafc0$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2><BAY127-W34A22874EBF8B4F0A2547BD2160@phx.gbl><BAY127-W149D84AB6605E04B9AE119D2130@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <BAY127-W14388AD4E3F257EF1F2759D20C0@phx.gbl>


<<<***Continued***>>>
 
Private Sub cboLT_Click()Dim I As ControlDim L As ControlDim C As ControlDim ChoicevMove = Me!DistanceSelect Case Left(Me!cboControlNumber, 1)    Case "p"        Choice = "Pool_" & Me!cboControlNumber            Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)            I.Left = I.Left - vMove            Me!txtLeft = I.Left            Me!txtTop = I.Top        Choice = "Label" & Me!cboControlNumber            Set L = Forms!frmtables(Choice)            L.Left = L.Left - vMove        Choice = "count" & Me!cboControlNumber            Set C = Forms!frmtables(Choice)            C.Left = C.Left - vMove    Case "b"        Choice = "Bar__" & Me!cboControlNumber        Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)        If Me!Adjust = 1 Then            I.Width = I.Width - vMove            Me!txtLeft = I.Left            Me!txtTop = I.Top            Me!txtHeight = I.Height            Me!txtWidth = I.Width        Else            I.Left = I.Left - vMove            Me!txtLeft = I.Left            Me!txtTop = I.Top            Me!txtHeight = I.Height            Me!txtWidth = I.Width        End If    Case "d"        Choice = "Dine_" & Me!cboControlNumber        Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)            I.Left = I.Left - vMove            Me!txtLeft = I.Left            Me!txtTop = I.Top        Choice = "Label" & Me!cboControlNumber            Set L = Forms!frmtables(Choice)            L.Left = L.Left - vMove            Me!txtLeft = L.Left            Me!txtTop = L.Top    Case "s"        Choice = "Stool" & Me!cboControlNumber        Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)            I.Left = I.Left - vMove            Me!txtLeft = I.Left            Me!txtTop = I.Top        Choice = "Label" & Me!cboControlNumber            Set L = Forms!frmtables(Choice)            L.Left = L.Left - vMove            Me!txtLeft = L.Left            Me!txtTop = L.Top    End SelectSaveSetupEnd Sub  Private Sub cboDN_Click()Dim I As ControlDim L As ControlDim C As ControlDim ChoicevMove = Me!DistanceSelect Case Left(Me!cboControlNumber, 1)    Case "p"        Choice = "Pool_" & Me!cboControlNumber            Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)            I.Top = I.Top + vMove            Me!txtLeft = I.Left            Me!txtTop = I.Top        Choice = "Label" & Me!cboControlNumber            Set L = Forms!frmtables(Choice)            L.Top = L.Top + vMove        Choice = "count" & Me!cboControlNumber            Set C = Forms!frmtables(Choice)            C.Top = C.Top + vMove    Case "b"        Choice = "Bar__" & Me!cboControlNumber        Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)        If Me!Adjust = 1 Then            I.Height = I.Height - vMove            Me!txtLeft = I.Left            Me!txtTop = I.Top            Me!txtHeight = I.Height            Me!txtWidth = I.Width        Else            I.Top = I.Top + vMove            Me!txtLeft = I.Left            Me!txtTop = I.Top            Me!txtHeight = I.Height            Me!txtWidth = I.Width        End If    Case "d"        Choice = "Dine_" & Me!cboControlNumber        Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)            I.Top = I.Top + vMove            Me!txtLeft = I.Left            Me!txtTop = I.Top        Choice = "Label" & Me!cboControlNumber            Set L = Forms!frmtables(Choice)            L.Top = L.Top + vMove            Me!txtLeft = L.Left            Me!txtTop = L.Top    Case "s"        Choice = "Stool" & Me!cboControlNumber        Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)            I.Top = I.Top + vMove            Me!txtLeft = I.Left            Me!txtTop = I.Top        Choice = "Label" & Me!cboControlNumber            Set L = Forms!frmtables(Choice)            L.Top = L.Top + vMove            Me!txtLeft = L.Left            Me!txtTop = L.Top    End SelectSaveSetupEnd Sub
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From paul_lifopro at cox.net  Thu Nov 20 09:02:59 2008
From: paul_lifopro at cox.net (paul_lifopro)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:02:59 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing Capabilities
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-W47E918E95A5E0467E79859D20C0@phx.gbl>
References: <002301c9468b$094eafc0$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2><BAY127-W34A22874EBF8B4F0A2547BD2160@phx.gbl><BAY127-W149D84AB6605E04B9AE119D2130@phx.gbl><013901c948e2$554e8db0$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2><BAY127-W46265A9EC5AF627B3DDF49D20D0@phx.gbl>
	<010301c94a5d$8cc56350$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2>
	<BAY127-W47E918E95A5E0467E79859D20C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <018901c94b21$13d0e130$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2>

Mark and all other that have helped me with this,

I will try to look at what Mark sent me over the next few weeks.  We are
headed to San Antonio for my Grandsons graduation from AF Basic training all
of next week so it will be a while before I can look at it.

As an interim, I am using some of the other suggestions to put an image on
the form and then overlay command buttons on each of the booths.  I can then
put code in each of the command buttons onclick event to bring up a modal
form with the info about the booth.

It seems to be working OK, but will have to be changed if the venue changes.
All manually.

Thanks

Paul



From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Thu Nov 20 09:30:24 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:30:24 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Conditional Formatting
Message-ID: <9954F6EF031548788B420F3622E73B62@HAL9005>

Dear List:

I'm setting conditional formatting for a bunch of text boxes on a form -
changing the background when the field has the focus.  It's a very tedious
job - one field at a time.  Is there a way to automate this process?

MTIA

 
 	
	
 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 

www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 

 

 




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 20 09:39:29 2008
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:39:29 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Conditional Formatting
Message-ID: <s92592cc.033@cactus.dk>

Hi Rocky

Well, WithEvents - as preached by Shamil and JC - and published at a site near you:

http://www.databaseadvisors.com/newsletters/newsletter112001/0111formclass.asp 

Take a deep breath - and and you will never regret!

/gustav

>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 20-11-2008 16:30 >>>
Dear List:

I'm setting conditional formatting for a bunch of text boxes on a form -
changing the background when the field has the focus.  It's a very tedious
job - one field at a time.  Is there a way to automate this process?

MTIA

 
 	
	
 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 

www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 




From markamatte at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 20 09:41:41 2008
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:41:41 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing Capabilities Part I
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-W176536CD49567518883B33D20C0@phx.gbl>
References: <002301c9468b$094eafc0$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2><BAY127-W34A22874EBF8B4F0A2547BD2160@phx.gbl><BAY127-W149D84AB6605E04B9AE119D2130@phx.gbl>
	<013901c948e2$554e8db0$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2>
	<BAY127-W46265A9EC5AF627B3DDF49D20D0@phx.gbl> 
	<010301c94a5d$8cc56350$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2> 
	<BAY127-W176536CD49567518883B33D20C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY127-W419B809F5288E6E0D990EFD20C0@phx.gbl>


I tried sending this yesterday...but the message was too long...lets try again!!!
...and again...I'll leave my other posts at the bottom in case they are relecant.  I'll send in 2 parts
**********
 
Paul,
 
I don't  have the code available for the "do stuff when you click"...easy enough by calling the same function from every object(event of your choice)...that parses the object name...and displays what you need.
 
 
Here is the code that fires when my form opens...it paints the form and organizes all the objects on the form.  Below that is the code from the other form I use to move the objects around.  Keep in mind...the moving/organizing of the objects is all table driven(left,top,height, width all stored in a single  record for each object).  It's barely clear to me...so let me know if you have questions.
 
Thanks,
 
MarkA. Matte
 
 
Function PaintForm()
    Dim strSQL As String
    Dim strControlName As String
    Dim cntl As Control
    Dim ret
    Dim MyRst As Recordset
    Set db = CurrentDb()
    Set MyRst = db.OpenRecordset("tblDesign", DB_OPEN_DYNASET)
    
    
    strSQL = "[Active]> -2"
    MyRst.FindFirst strSQL
    Do Until MyRst.NoMatch
        strControlName = MyRst!ControlNumber
        Set cntl = Forms!frmtables(strControlName)
        cntl.Top = MyRst![Top]
        cntl.Left = MyRst![Left]
        cntl.Visible = False
        If MyRst!Active = False Then GoTo Skip
        Select Case Left(MyRst!ControlNumber, 6)
            Case "pool_p"
                cntl.Visible = True
                If MyRst!Type = "V" Then
                    cntl.Width = 586
                    cntl.Height = 1020
                    cntl.Picture = "C:\Documents and Settings\Mark\Desktop\Pool\PTable2.gif"
                Else
                    cntl.Width = 1035
                    cntl.Height = 600
                    cntl.Picture = "C:\Documents and Settings\Mark\Desktop\Pool\PTable3.gif"
                End If
                
            Case "labelp"
                cntl.Visible = True
                If MyRst!Type = "V" Then
                    cntl.Width = 540
                    cntl.Height = 1020
                    cntl.TopMargin = 216
                Else
                    cntl.Width = 1020
                    cntl.Height = 600
                    cntl.TopMargin = 0
                End If
            
            Case "countp"
                cntl.Visible = True
                If MyRst!Type = "V" Then
                    cntl.Width = 420
                    cntl.Height = 600
                    cntl.TopMargin = 43
                Else
                    cntl.Width = 420
                    cntl.Height = 600
                    cntl.TopMargin = 144
                End If
            Case "bar__b"
                cntl.Visible = True
                cntl.Height = MyRst![Height]
                cntl.Width = MyRst![Width]
            Case "dine_d"
                cntl.Visible = True
            Case "labeld"
                cntl.Visible = True
            Case "stools"
                cntl.Visible = True
            Case "labels"
                cntl.Visible = True
                
            End Select
Skip:
        Set cntl = Forms!frmtables(strControlName)
        MyRst.FindNext strSQL
    Loop
End Function
> I left 1 piece of info out...I wanted the same type of events to fire for
> each object type...so I wrote some code that used the name of each object to
> determine what function to call...and used a naming convention religiously.
> When a certain object was clicked...the border(a label) would change
> color...and a lookup would count and display on on the object how many
> records were associated with the table. So for each object I had 3
> things.Example:
> 
> Text box---tbPool01
> Label---lbPool01
> Image---imPool01
> 
> Text box---tbBoot01
> Label---lbBoot01
> Image---imBoot01
> 
> So when you clicked on an object(image) it would pass its name to the
> function...parse the name...then depending on what 'kind' it was
> ('boot','pool','stoo'' etc)...Mid([MyName],3,4)...would do specific things
> to that images corresponding text box and lable.
> 
> Using this type of naming...allowed me to store the names and positions of
> all objects in a table, loop through all items when the form opened and
> positioning them according to the data in the table....giving the user a way
> to move items around(UP,DOWN,RIGHT,LEFT buttons adding and subtracting
> TWIPS) on the screen and basically customizing it for their use.(even worked
> in an MDE).
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Mark A. Matte
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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Thu Nov 20 09:43:10 2008
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:43:10 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Conditional Formatting
Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C21B86A96F@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com>

Some possible resources

http://blogs.msdn.com/frice/archive/2004/06/08/151178.aspx

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa139965(office.10).aspx

http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-1055719.html

Lambert 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:30 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Conditional Formatting

Dear List:

I'm setting conditional formatting for a bunch of text boxes on a form -
changing the background when the field has the focus.  It's a very tedious
job - one field at a time.  Is there a way to automate this process?

MTIA

 
 	
	
 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 

www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 

 

 


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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 20 09:45:05 2008
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:45:05 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing Capabilities Part III
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-W14388AD4E3F257EF1F2759D20C0@phx.gbl>
References: <002301c9468b$094eafc0$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2><BAY127-W34A22874EBF8B4F0A2547BD2160@phx.gbl><BAY127-W149D84AB6605E04B9AE119D2130@phx.gbl>
	<013901c948e2$554e8db0$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2>
	<BAY127-W46265A9EC5AF627B3DDF49D20D0@phx.gbl> 
	<010301c94a5d$8cc56350$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2> 
	<BAY127-W14388AD4E3F257EF1F2759D20C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY127-W52D05253014A26999C58C8D20C0@phx.gbl>


<<>>
 
Private Sub cboLT_Click()
Dim I As Control
Dim L As Control
Dim C As Control
Dim Choice
vMove = Me!Distance
Select Case Left(Me!cboControlNumber, 1)
    Case "p"
        Choice = "Pool_" & Me!cboControlNumber
            Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
            I.Left = I.Left - vMove
            Me!txtLeft = I.Left
            Me!txtTop = I.Top
        Choice = "Label" & Me!cboControlNumber
            Set L = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
            L.Left = L.Left - vMove
        Choice = "count" & Me!cboControlNumber
            Set C = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
            C.Left = C.Left - vMove
    Case "b"
        Choice = "Bar__" & Me!cboControlNumber
        Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
        If Me!Adjust = 1 Then
            I.Width = I.Width - vMove
            Me!txtLeft = I.Left
            Me!txtTop = I.Top
            Me!txtHeight = I.Height
            Me!txtWidth = I.Width
        Else
            I.Left = I.Left - vMove
            Me!txtLeft = I.Left
            Me!txtTop = I.Top
            Me!txtHeight = I.Height
            Me!txtWidth = I.Width
        End If
    Case "d"
        Choice = "Dine_" & Me!cboControlNumber
        Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
            I.Left = I.Left - vMove
            Me!txtLeft = I.Left
            Me!txtTop = I.Top
        Choice = "Label" & Me!cboControlNumber
            Set L = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
            L.Left = L.Left - vMove
            Me!txtLeft = L.Left
            Me!txtTop = L.Top
    Case "s"
        Choice = "Stool" & Me!cboControlNumber
        Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
            I.Left = I.Left - vMove
            Me!txtLeft = I.Left
            Me!txtTop = I.Top
        Choice = "Label" & Me!cboControlNumber
            Set L = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
            L.Left = L.Left - vMove
            Me!txtLeft = L.Left
            Me!txtTop = L.Top
    End Select
SaveSetup
End Sub
 
 
Private Sub cboDN_Click()
Dim I As Control
Dim L As Control
Dim C As Control
Dim Choice
vMove = Me!Distance
Select Case Left(Me!cboControlNumber, 1)
    Case "p"
        Choice = "Pool_" & Me!cboControlNumber
            Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
            I.Top = I.Top + vMove
            Me!txtLeft = I.Left
            Me!txtTop = I.Top
        Choice = "Label" & Me!cboControlNumber
            Set L = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
            L.Top = L.Top + vMove
        Choice = "count" & Me!cboControlNumber
            Set C = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
            C.Top = C.Top + vMove
    Case "b"
        Choice = "Bar__" & Me!cboControlNumber
        Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
        If Me!Adjust = 1 Then
            I.Height = I.Height - vMove
            Me!txtLeft = I.Left
            Me!txtTop = I.Top
            Me!txtHeight = I.Height
            Me!txtWidth = I.Width
        Else
            I.Top = I.Top + vMove
            Me!txtLeft = I.Left
            Me!txtTop = I.Top
            Me!txtHeight = I.Height
            Me!txtWidth = I.Width
        End If
    Case "d"
        Choice = "Dine_" & Me!cboControlNumber
        Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
            I.Top = I.Top + vMove
            Me!txtLeft = I.Left
            Me!txtTop = I.Top
        Choice = "Label" & Me!cboControlNumber
            Set L = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
            L.Top = L.Top + vMove
            Me!txtLeft = L.Left
            Me!txtTop = L.Top
    Case "s"
        Choice = "Stool" & Me!cboControlNumber
        Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
            I.Top = I.Top + vMove
            Me!txtLeft = I.Left
            Me!txtTop = I.Top
        Choice = "Label" & Me!cboControlNumber
            Set L = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
            L.Top = L.Top + vMove
            Me!txtLeft = L.Left
            Me!txtTop = L.Top
    End Select
SaveSetup
End Sub
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 20 09:43:18 2008
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:43:18 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] MS Access Drawing Capabilities Part II
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-W47E918E95A5E0467E79859D20C0@phx.gbl>
References: <002301c9468b$094eafc0$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2><BAY127-W34A22874EBF8B4F0A2547BD2160@phx.gbl><BAY127-W149D84AB6605E04B9AE119D2130@phx.gbl>
	<013901c948e2$554e8db0$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2>
	<BAY127-W46265A9EC5AF627B3DDF49D20D0@phx.gbl> 
	<010301c94a5d$8cc56350$6c01a8c0@lplaptop2> 
	<BAY127-W47E918E95A5E0467E79859D20C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY127-W52FEB583AC0B95079437DED20C0@phx.gbl>


Make that 3 parts!!!!!
 
********CODE FROM FORM THAT MOVES  STUFF ON MAIN FORM**********
Private Sub cboImageType_AfterUpdate()
Me!cboControlNumber.Requery
Me!sfrmtblDesign.Requery
Me!cboControlNumber = Null
Me!cboLT.Enabled = True
Me!cboDN.Enabled = True
Select Case Me!cboImageType
    Case "bar__b"
        Me!Adjust.Visible = True
        Me!VHTable.Visible = False
        Me!Adjust = 2
    Case "pool_p"
        Me!Adjust.Visible = False
        Me!VHTable.Visible = True
    Case "dine_d"
        Me!Adjust.Visible = False
        Me!VHTable.Visible = False
    Case "stools"
        Me!Adjust.Visible = False
        Me!VHTable.Visible = False
    End Select
If Me!cboControlNumber.Column(0) = "V" Then
    Me!VHTable = 1
Else
    Me!VHTable = 2
End If
End Sub
 
Private Sub cboUP_Click()
Dim I As Control
Dim L As Control
Dim C As Control
Dim Choice
vMove = Me!Distance
Select Case Left(Me!cboControlNumber, 1)
    Case "p"
        Choice = "Pool_" & Me!cboControlNumber
            Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
            I.Top = I.Top - vMove
            Me!txtLeft = I.Left
            Me!txtTop = I.Top
        Choice = "Label" & Me!cboControlNumber
            Set L = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
            L.Top = L.Top - vMove
        Choice = "count" & Me!cboControlNumber
            Set C = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
            C.Top = C.Top - vMove
    Case "b"
        Choice = "Bar__" & Me!cboControlNumber
        Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
        If Me!Adjust = 1 Then
            I.Height = I.Height + vMove
            Me!txtHeight = I.Height
            Me!txtWidth = I.Width
            Me!txtTop = I.Top
            Me!txtLeft = I.Left
        Else
            I.Top = I.Top - vMove
            Me!txtLeft = I.Left
            Me!txtTop = I.Top
            Me!txtHeight = I.Height
            Me!txtWidth = I.Width
        End If
    Case "d"
        Choice = "Dine_" & Me!cboControlNumber
        Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
            I.Top = I.Top - vMove
            Me!txtLeft = I.Left
            Me!txtTop = I.Top
        Choice = "Label" & Me!cboControlNumber
            Set L = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
            L.Top = L.Top - vMove
            Me!txtLeft = L.Left
            Me!txtTop = L.Top
    Case "s"
        Choice = "Stool" & Me!cboControlNumber
        Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
            I.Top = I.Top - vMove
            Me!txtLeft = I.Left
            Me!txtTop = I.Top
        Choice = "Label" & Me!cboControlNumber
            Set L = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
            L.Top = L.Top - vMove
            Me!txtLeft = L.Left
            Me!txtTop = L.Top
    End Select
SaveSetup
End Sub
 
Private Sub cboRT_Click()
Dim I As Control
Dim L As Control
Dim C As Control
Dim Choice
vMove = Me!Distance
Select Case Left(Me!cboControlNumber, 1)
    Case "p"
        Choice = "Pool_" & Me!cboControlNumber
            Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
            I.Left = I.Left + vMove
            Me!txtLeft = I.Left
            Me!txtTop = I.Top
        Choice = "Label" & Me!cboControlNumber
            Set L = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
            L.Left = L.Left + vMove
        Choice = "count" & Me!cboControlNumber
            Set C = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
            C.Left = C.Left + vMove
    Case "b"
        Choice = "Bar__" & Me!cboControlNumber
        Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
        If Me!Adjust = 1 Then
            I.Width = I.Width + vMove
            Me!txtLeft = I.Left
            Me!txtTop = I.Top
            Me!txtHeight = I.Height
            Me!txtWidth = I.Width
        Else
            I.Left = I.Left + vMove
            Me!txtLeft = I.Left
            Me!txtTop = I.Top
            Me!txtHeight = I.Height
            Me!txtWidth = I.Width
        End If
    Case "d"
        Choice = "Dine_" & Me!cboControlNumber
        Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
            I.Left = I.Left + vMove
            Me!txtLeft = I.Left
            Me!txtTop = I.Top
        Choice = "Label" & Me!cboControlNumber
            Set L = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
            L.Left = L.Left + vMove
            Me!txtLeft = L.Left
            Me!txtTop = L.Top
    Case "s"
        Choice = "Stool" & Me!cboControlNumber
        Set I = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
            I.Left = I.Left + vMove
            Me!txtLeft = I.Left
            Me!txtTop = I.Top
        Choice = "Label" & Me!cboControlNumber
            Set L = Forms!frmtables(Choice)
            L.Left = L.Left + vMove
            Me!txtLeft = L.Left
            Me!txtTop = L.Top
    End Select
SaveSetup
End Sub
 
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Nov 20 09:51:05 2008
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:51:05 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Conditional Formatting
In-Reply-To: <9954F6EF031548788B420F3622E73B62@HAL9005>
References: <9954F6EF031548788B420F3622E73B62@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <21D4FA6A839B4AF98B2A8302B87FBDFA@danwaters>

Hi Rocky,

You can set conditional formatting for multiple controls at one time.
Select them all, then on the toolbar under Format, select Conditional
Formatting.  

When you set this, all the controls' conditional formatting will be
identical.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 9:30 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Conditional Formatting

Dear List:

I'm setting conditional formatting for a bunch of text boxes on a form -
changing the background when the field has the focus.  It's a very tedious
job - one field at a time.  Is there a way to automate this process?

MTIA

 
 	
	
 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 

www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 

 

 


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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Thu Nov 20 10:29:10 2008
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:29:10 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting to network drive
Message-ID: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C14280E10@houex1.kindermorgan.com>

I need to link to tables in another access database but the linked table wizard wants to use a drive letter. The problem is that different users have the same drive designated with different letters. I found the following information but am unsure how to implement it. I thought I could change it in the msysobjects table but no go.


Mapped drive connections would be something like:

H:\apps\MyApplications\MyAccess.mdb



And UNC would be something like:

\\MySecondServer\apps\MyApplications\MyAccess.mdb



Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799





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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Thu Nov 20 10:34:04 2008
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:34:04 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting to network drive
In-Reply-To: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C14280E10@houex1.kindermorgan.com>
References: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C14280E10@houex1.kindermorgan.com>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEAB126A6@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

Are the users allowed to change the connection?  In other words, do you
set the connection in code?  If so, just use the UNC path as the path
instead of the mapped path.  Mapping has been a last resort since Access
gained support for UNC.

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:29 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting to network drive

I need to link to tables in another access database but the linked table
wizard wants to use a drive letter. The problem is that different users
have the same drive designated with different letters. I found the
following information but am unsure how to implement it. I thought I
could change it in the msysobjects table but no go.


Mapped drive connections would be something like:

H:\apps\MyApplications\MyAccess.mdb



And UNC would be something like:

\\MySecondServer\apps\MyApplications\MyAccess.mdb



Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799





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From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com  Thu Nov 20 10:38:43 2008
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:38:43 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting to network drive
Message-ID: <49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB721700367DEBD@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET>

Instead of using the wizard, make sure you are in the Tables objects list,
click New, choose Link Table in the list of options.  In the File name field
type the UNC and click the Link button.  You should then be presented with
list of tables from the linked mdb.  



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:29 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting to network drive

I need to link to tables in another access database but the linked table
wizard wants to use a drive letter. The problem is that different users have
the same drive designated with different letters. I found the following
information but am unsure how to implement it. I thought I could change it
in the msysobjects table but no go.


Mapped drive connections would be something like:

H:\apps\MyApplications\MyAccess.mdb



And UNC would be something like:

\\MySecondServer\apps\MyApplications\MyAccess.mdb



Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799





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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Thu Nov 20 11:03:28 2008
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:03:28 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting to network drive
In-Reply-To: <49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB721700367DEBD@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET>
References: <49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB721700367DEBD@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET>
Message-ID: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C14280E21@houex1.kindermorgan.com>

Thanks.
So easy yet I never bothered to learn about it. Thanks for the lesson.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:39 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Connecting to network drive

Instead of using the wizard, make sure you are in the Tables objects list,
click New, choose Link Table in the list of options.  In the File name field
type the UNC and click the Link button.  You should then be presented with
list of tables from the linked mdb.  



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:29 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Connecting to network drive

I need to link to tables in another access database but the linked table
wizard wants to use a drive letter. The problem is that different users have
the same drive designated with different letters. I found the following
information but am unsure how to implement it. I thought I could change it
in the msysobjects table but no go.


Mapped drive connections would be something like:

H:\apps\MyApplications\MyAccess.mdb



And UNC would be something like:

\\MySecondServer\apps\MyApplications\MyAccess.mdb



Chester Kaup

Engineering Technician

Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP

Office (432) 688-3797

FAX (432) 688-3799





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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Nov 20 13:15:43 2008
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:15:43 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] emailing from a DOD based program
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950811200826i3bca477frb8d0cf263ec3a6fc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <aea6c4950811200811t2643a352t7d55a6c8c7f03d09@mail.gmail.com>
	<A41B0DB4E37ED247B8F390103FE9BF920B4FDD94@chvex24.lonzagroup.net>
	<aea6c4950811200826i3bca477frb8d0cf263ec3a6fc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <06A687F76E1640FE8C1AE2FD18057C13@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi All:

Does anyone know a method to email from a DOS based POS program running
within a standard XP shell? The DOS based app can exit to the command prompt
and can even run some command apps but little more.

MTIA
Jim



From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Thu Nov 20 13:11:57 2008
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:11:57 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Inner Join Query
Message-ID: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C14280E57@houex1.kindermorgan.com>

The following query works correctly returning the 15 records in the tbl StatusCodesActive table.

SELECT [tbl StatusCodesActive].Stat_Code, DateSerial(Year(Date()),Month(Date()),1)-1 AS StatusDate1, 
[tbl StatusCodesActive].Stat_Desc, 
Count([qry Well Status 1 Month Prior].Status) AS CountOfStatus
FROM [tbl StatusCodesActive] 
LEFT JOIN [qry Well Status 1 Month Prior] ON [tbl StatusCodesActive].Stat_Code = [qry Well Status 1 Month Prior].Status
GROUP BY [tbl StatusCodesActive].Stat_Code, DateSerial(Year(Date()),Month(Date()),1)-1, 
[tbl StatusCodesActive].Stat_Desc, [tbl StatusCodesActive].SortOrder
ORDER BY [tbl StatusCodesActive].SortOrder;

The following query does not work correctly. Instead of returning 45 records it returns only 28 records. Stat_Code and Area together create a unique record in the table tbl StatusCodesActiveNew table. Am I trying to do something here that will not work? Thanks. 

SELECT [tbl StatusCodesActiveNew].Stat_Code, 
[tbl StatusCodesActiveNew].Stat_Desc, 
DateSerial(Year(Date()),Month(Date()),1)-1 AS StatusDate1, 
Count([qry Well Status 1 Month Prior with Area].Status) AS CountOfStatus, [qry Well Status 1 Month Prior with Area].Area
FROM [tbl StatusCodesActiveNew] 
LEFT JOIN [qry Well Status 1 Month Prior with Area] 
ON ([tbl StatusCodesActiveNew].Stat_Code=[qry Well Status 1 Month Prior with Area].Status) 
AND ([tbl StatusCodesActiveNew].Area=[qry Well Status 1 Month Prior with Area].Area)
GROUP BY [tbl StatusCodesActiveNew].Stat_Code, 
[tbl StatusCodesActiveNew].Stat_Desc, DateSerial(Year(Date()),Month(Date()),1)-1, 
[qry Well Status 1 Month Prior with Area].Area;

Chester Kaup
Engineering Technician
Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP
Office (432) 688-3797
FAX (432) 688-3799

?
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Thu Nov 20 13:48:00 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:48:00 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Conditional Formatting
In-Reply-To: <21D4FA6A839B4AF98B2A8302B87FBDFA@danwaters>
References: <9954F6EF031548788B420F3622E73B62@HAL9005>
	<21D4FA6A839B4AF98B2A8302B87FBDFA@danwaters>
Message-ID: <0E5D9283D1FD4640BB8064ABD1F21AA1@HAL9005>

You know,  that was my first thought, to.  I tried it but it didn't work.
Got some kind of error message.  Just tried it again and...IT WORKS!!! Go
figure...


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 7:51 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Conditional Formatting

Hi Rocky,

You can set conditional formatting for multiple controls at one time.
Select them all, then on the toolbar under Format, select Conditional
Formatting.  

When you set this, all the controls' conditional formatting will be
identical.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at
Beach Access Software
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 9:30 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Conditional Formatting

Dear List:

I'm setting conditional formatting for a bunch of text boxes on a form -
changing the background when the field has the focus.  It's a very tedious
job - one field at a time.  Is there a way to automate this process?

MTIA

 
 	
	
 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 

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From davidmcafee at gmail.com  Thu Nov 20 14:38:55 2008
From: davidmcafee at gmail.com (David McAfee)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:38:55 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Inner Join Query
In-Reply-To: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C14280E57@houex1.kindermorgan.com>
References: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C14280E57@houex1.kindermorgan.com>
Message-ID: <8786a4c00811201238t5d434da3y3733efef16ace354@mail.gmail.com>

Well, you do have the added join condition of "AND ([tbl
StatusCodesActiveNew].Area=[
>
> qry Well Status 1 Month Prior with Area].Area)"


If you remove that do you get your remaining records?

David McAfee


On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Kaup, Chester <
Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com> wrote:

> The following query works correctly returning the 15 records in the tbl
> StatusCodesActive table.
>
> SELECT [tbl StatusCodesActive].Stat_Code,
> DateSerial(Year(Date()),Month(Date()),1)-1 AS StatusDate1,
> [tbl StatusCodesActive].Stat_Desc,
> Count([qry Well Status 1 Month Prior].Status) AS CountOfStatus
> FROM [tbl StatusCodesActive]
> LEFT JOIN [qry Well Status 1 Month Prior] ON [tbl
> StatusCodesActive].Stat_Code = [qry Well Status 1 Month Prior].Status
> GROUP BY [tbl StatusCodesActive].Stat_Code,
> DateSerial(Year(Date()),Month(Date()),1)-1,
> [tbl StatusCodesActive].Stat_Desc, [tbl StatusCodesActive].SortOrder
> ORDER BY [tbl StatusCodesActive].SortOrder;
>
> The following query does not work correctly. Instead of returning 45
> records it returns only 28 records. Stat_Code and Area together create a
> unique record in the table tbl StatusCodesActiveNew table. Am I trying to do
> something here that will not work? Thanks.
>
> SELECT [tbl StatusCodesActiveNew].Stat_Code,
> [tbl StatusCodesActiveNew].Stat_Desc,
> DateSerial(Year(Date()),Month(Date()),1)-1 AS StatusDate1,
> Count([qry Well Status 1 Month Prior with Area].Status) AS CountOfStatus,
> [qry Well Status 1 Month Prior with Area].Area
> FROM [tbl StatusCodesActiveNew]
> LEFT JOIN [qry Well Status 1 Month Prior with Area]
> ON ([tbl StatusCodesActiveNew].Stat_Code=[qry Well Status 1 Month Prior
> with Area].Status)
> AND ([tbl StatusCodesActiveNew].Area=[qry Well Status 1 Month Prior with
> Area].Area)
> GROUP BY [tbl StatusCodesActiveNew].Stat_Code,
> [tbl StatusCodesActiveNew].Stat_Desc,
> DateSerial(Year(Date()),Month(Date()),1)-1,
> [qry Well Status 1 Month Prior with Area].Area;
>
> Chester Kaup
> Engineering Technician
> Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP
> Office (432) 688-3797
> FAX (432) 688-3799
>
>
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> of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Thu Nov 20 14:44:37 2008
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:44:37 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Inner Join Query
In-Reply-To: <8786a4c00811201238t5d434da3y3733efef16ace354@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C14280E57@houex1.kindermorgan.com>
	<8786a4c00811201238t5d434da3y3733efef16ace354@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C14280EA8@houex1.kindermorgan.com>

If I remove that condition I get all 45 records but the count is all wrong. What I did was create a field in both tables that was a concatenation of the area and stat_code fields. Now it works correctly.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David McAfee
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 2:39 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Inner Join Query

Well, you do have the added join condition of "AND ([tbl
StatusCodesActiveNew].Area=[
>
> qry Well Status 1 Month Prior with Area].Area)"


If you remove that do you get your remaining records?

David McAfee


On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Kaup, Chester <
Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com> wrote:

> The following query works correctly returning the 15 records in the tbl
> StatusCodesActive table.
>
> SELECT [tbl StatusCodesActive].Stat_Code,
> DateSerial(Year(Date()),Month(Date()),1)-1 AS StatusDate1,
> [tbl StatusCodesActive].Stat_Desc,
> Count([qry Well Status 1 Month Prior].Status) AS CountOfStatus
> FROM [tbl StatusCodesActive]
> LEFT JOIN [qry Well Status 1 Month Prior] ON [tbl
> StatusCodesActive].Stat_Code = [qry Well Status 1 Month Prior].Status
> GROUP BY [tbl StatusCodesActive].Stat_Code,
> DateSerial(Year(Date()),Month(Date()),1)-1,
> [tbl StatusCodesActive].Stat_Desc, [tbl StatusCodesActive].SortOrder
> ORDER BY [tbl StatusCodesActive].SortOrder;
>
> The following query does not work correctly. Instead of returning 45
> records it returns only 28 records. Stat_Code and Area together create a
> unique record in the table tbl StatusCodesActiveNew table. Am I trying to do
> something here that will not work? Thanks.
>
> SELECT [tbl StatusCodesActiveNew].Stat_Code,
> [tbl StatusCodesActiveNew].Stat_Desc,
> DateSerial(Year(Date()),Month(Date()),1)-1 AS StatusDate1,
> Count([qry Well Status 1 Month Prior with Area].Status) AS CountOfStatus,
> [qry Well Status 1 Month Prior with Area].Area
> FROM [tbl StatusCodesActiveNew]
> LEFT JOIN [qry Well Status 1 Month Prior with Area]
> ON ([tbl StatusCodesActiveNew].Stat_Code=[qry Well Status 1 Month Prior
> with Area].Status)
> AND ([tbl StatusCodesActiveNew].Area=[qry Well Status 1 Month Prior with
> Area].Area)
> GROUP BY [tbl StatusCodesActiveNew].Stat_Code,
> [tbl StatusCodesActiveNew].Stat_Desc,
> DateSerial(Year(Date()),Month(Date()),1)-1,
> [qry Well Status 1 Month Prior with Area].Area;
>
> Chester Kaup
> Engineering Technician
> Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP
> Office (432) 688-3797
> FAX (432) 688-3799
>
>
> No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However a large number
> of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
>
>
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From darren at activebilling.com.au  Thu Nov 20 16:11:24 2008
From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:11:24 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] emailing from a DOD based program
In-Reply-To: <06A687F76E1640FE8C1AE2FD18057C13@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <aea6c4950811200811t2643a352t7d55a6c8c7f03d09@mail.gmail.com><A41B0DB4E37ED247B8F390103FE9BF920B4FDD94@chvex24.lonzagroup.net><aea6c4950811200826i3bca477frb8d0cf263ec3a6fc@mail.gmail.com>
	<06A687F76E1640FE8C1AE2FD18057C13@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <032601c94b5c$efc3c9b0$0d1b910a@denzilnote>

Hi Jim

Does the MailTo: tool work from a DOS prompt?

There is a tool called Febooti Command Line Email app - about $45. Not sure how
good it is but I imagine it is fully configurable. It has a free trial period -
No I'm not associated with them - Saw the product and thought it might be useful


http://www.febooti.com/products/command-line-email/

See ya
 
Darren

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Friday, 21 November 2008 6:16 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'; 'Access Developers discussion
and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] emailing from a DOD based program

Hi All:

Does anyone know a method to email from a DOS based POS program running
within a standard XP shell? The DOS based app can exit to the command prompt
and can even run some command apps but little more.

MTIA
Jim

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From darren at activebilling.com.au  Thu Nov 20 16:16:59 2008
From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:16:59 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Conditional Formatting
In-Reply-To: <9954F6EF031548788B420F3622E73B62@HAL9005>
References: <9954F6EF031548788B420F3622E73B62@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <032701c94b5d$b5fcdfe0$0d1b910a@denzilnote>

Hi Rocky

Try this

In design view make the back ground of the control say...red. Save the form
In the same session make the background of the control transparent. Save the
form. Then open the form and click in the control - what do you see??
 
Darren

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach
Access Software
Sent: Friday, 21 November 2008 2:30 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Conditional Formatting

Dear List:

I'm setting conditional formatting for a bunch of text boxes on a form -
changing the background when the field has the focus.  It's a very tedious
job - one field at a time.  Is there a way to automate this process?

MTIA

 
 	
	
 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Nov 20 17:05:38 2008
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:05:38 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] emailing from a DOD based program
In-Reply-To: <032601c94b5c$efc3c9b0$0d1b910a@denzilnote>
References: <aea6c4950811200811t2643a352t7d55a6c8c7f03d09@mail.gmail.com>
	<A41B0DB4E37ED247B8F390103FE9BF920B4FDD94@chvex24.lonzagroup.net>
	<aea6c4950811200826i3bca477frb8d0cf263ec3a6fc@mail.gmail.com>
	<06A687F76E1640FE8C1AE2FD18057C13@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<032601c94b5c$efc3c9b0$0d1b910a@denzilnote>
Message-ID: <4D6006408BA9418DB7E4FF1EA47F11CA@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi Darren:

Thank you very much for your info.

Since I sent out the email I have been scanning the internet for the best
product. I looked at FEBOOTI and it looked great but it seems that BLAT
might be better regardless of the price.

Do you have any comments and further suggestions? That would be greatly
appreciated as I have no experience with any similar product and the time
line for getting the implementation completed is very tight.

If anyone else has experience with BLAT for an actual DOS command line
sample/pseudo sample would be greatly appreciated. Note; port 25 is
unavailable, of course, but the ISP does support direct access to their
email server (smart host).

Regards
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren D
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 2:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Discussion of
Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] emailing from a DOD based program

Hi Jim

Does the MailTo: tool work from a DOS prompt?

There is a tool called Febooti Command Line Email app - about $45. Not sure
how
good it is but I imagine it is fully configurable. It has a free trial
period -
No I'm not associated with them - Saw the product and thought it might be
useful


http://www.febooti.com/products/command-line-email/

See ya
 
Darren

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Friday, 21 November 2008 6:16 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'; 'Access Developers
discussion
and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] emailing from a DOD based program

Hi All:

Does anyone know a method to email from a DOS based POS program running
within a standard XP shell? The DOS based app can exit to the command prompt
and can even run some command apps but little more.

MTIA
Jim

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From darren at activebilling.com.au  Thu Nov 20 19:07:13 2008
From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:07:13 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] emailing from a DOD based program
In-Reply-To: <4D6006408BA9418DB7E4FF1EA47F11CA@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <aea6c4950811200811t2643a352t7d55a6c8c7f03d09@mail.gmail.com><A41B0DB4E37ED247B8F390103FE9BF920B4FDD94@chvex24.lonzagroup.net><aea6c4950811200826i3bca477frb8d0cf263ec3a6fc@mail.gmail.com><06A687F76E1640FE8C1AE2FD18057C13@creativesystemdesigns.com><032601c94b5c$efc3c9b0$0d1b910a@denzilnote>
	<4D6006408BA9418DB7E4FF1EA47F11CA@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <03c601c94b75$7e7196c0$0d1b910a@denzilnote>

Ahhhh Blat - Our friend from PNG, Stuart, is a great supporter of Blat

I'm sure he'll chime in any minute :-)

Apparently BLAT Has an Access Class - Look to 

He also has a lot of Email related utils on his Website

Check out his 'MAPI send' on http://www.lexacorp.com.pg/mailsoft.shtml

Darren

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Friday, 21 November 2008 10:06 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] emailing from a DOD based program

Hi Darren:

Thank you very much for your info.

Since I sent out the email I have been scanning the internet for the best
product. I looked at FEBOOTI and it looked great but it seems that BLAT
might be better regardless of the price.

Do you have any comments and further suggestions? That would be greatly
appreciated as I have no experience with any similar product and the time
line for getting the implementation completed is very tight.

If anyone else has experience with BLAT for an actual DOS command line
sample/pseudo sample would be greatly appreciated. Note; port 25 is
unavailable, of course, but the ISP does support direct access to their
email server (smart host).

Regards
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren D
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 2:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Discussion of
Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] emailing from a DOD based program

Hi Jim

Does the MailTo: tool work from a DOS prompt?

There is a tool called Febooti Command Line Email app - about $45. Not sure
how
good it is but I imagine it is fully configurable. It has a free trial
period -
No I'm not associated with them - Saw the product and thought it might be
useful


http://www.febooti.com/products/command-line-email/

See ya
 
Darren

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Friday, 21 November 2008 6:16 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'; 'Access Developers
discussion
and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] emailing from a DOD based program

Hi All:

Does anyone know a method to email from a DOS based POS program running
within a standard XP shell? The DOS based app can exit to the command prompt
and can even run some command apps but little more.

MTIA
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From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru  Fri Nov 21 06:56:21 2008
From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:56:21 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] emailing from a DOD based program
In-Reply-To: <4D6006408BA9418DB7E4FF1EA47F11CA@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <000001c94bd8$8e69d750$6401a8c0@nant>

Jim,

If sending e-mail via SMTP server is OK for your task then using .NET
framework would be an easy solution because .NET framework has built-in
classes for e-mailing using SMTP: I mean one can write a simple custom class
in C# or VB.NET, put it in .NET classlib and wrap this custom class/classlib
into CCW (COM Callable Wrapper), which can be used/called from within MS
Access VBA....

--
Shamil

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 2:06 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] emailing from a DOD based program

Hi Darren:

Thank you very much for your info.

Since I sent out the email I have been scanning the internet for the best
product. I looked at FEBOOTI and it looked great but it seems that BLAT
might be better regardless of the price.

Do you have any comments and further suggestions? That would be greatly
appreciated as I have no experience with any similar product and the time
line for getting the implementation completed is very tight.

If anyone else has experience with BLAT for an actual DOS command line
sample/pseudo sample would be greatly appreciated. Note; port 25 is
unavailable, of course, but the ISP does support direct access to their
email server (smart host).

Regards
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren D
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 2:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Discussion of
Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] emailing from a DOD based program

Hi Jim

Does the MailTo: tool work from a DOS prompt?

There is a tool called Febooti Command Line Email app - about $45. Not sure
how
good it is but I imagine it is fully configurable. It has a free trial
period -
No I'm not associated with them - Saw the product and thought it might be
useful


http://www.febooti.com/products/command-line-email/

See ya
 
Darren

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Friday, 21 November 2008 6:16 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'; 'Access Developers
discussion
and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] emailing from a DOD based program

Hi All:

Does anyone know a method to email from a DOS based POS program running
within a standard XP shell? The DOS based app can exit to the command prompt
and can even run some command apps but little more.

MTIA
Jim

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From John.Serrano at dayzim.com  Fri Nov 21 08:29:23 2008
From: John.Serrano at dayzim.com (Serrano, John K)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:29:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Auto Backup
Message-ID: <441B3C415B36F54397BC7CC8567776E703D6BF10@tagmail.corp.dayzim.com>

Has anyone ever done an auto backup within access 2003?

 

I have a database that I would like to auto backup on close.

 

I know there is an auto backup on the file menu; however has anyone done
this in code before?

 

 

John Serrano

 



From markamatte at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 21 08:39:48 2008
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:39:48 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Auto Backup
In-Reply-To: <441B3C415B36F54397BC7CC8567776E703D6BF10@tagmail.corp.dayzim.com>
References: <441B3C415B36F54397BC7CC8567776E703D6BF10@tagmail.corp.dayzim.com>
Message-ID: <BAY127-W2756BCF7CF181114766FE2D20F0@phx.gbl>


Hello All,
 
I have a situation...client has 30+ BE mdbs...I've have transferred all to one.  I need to put together something that will get the data from his 30 into the new single mdb.  The 30 are all in the same folder on his network.  Should I just store in a table the path to each MDB/table...and create the links in code?  Then use an append query built on these links?
 
Any and all suggestions appreciated.
 
Thanks,
 
Mark
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Fri Nov 21 08:46:48 2008
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:46:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Auto Backup
References: <441B3C415B36F54397BC7CC8567776E703D6BF10@tagmail.corp.dayzim.com>
	<BAY127-W2756BCF7CF181114766FE2D20F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <0b5501c94be7$fd2ad0e0$2f8601c7@SusanOne>

I think it depends on why you're doing this? Are you going to do this often 
or is this a one-time deal?

Susan H.


>
> Hello All,
>
> I have a situation...client has 30+ BE mdbs...I've have transferred all to 
> one.  I need to put together something that will get the data from his 30 
> into the new single mdb.  The 30 are all in the same folder on his 
> network.  Should I just store in a table the path to each MDB/table...and 
> create the links in code?  Then use an append query built on these links?
>



From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Nov 21 08:57:20 2008
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:57:20 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Cottage renting web sites samples
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c920811200607i1f4d626cob596548f156e3dea@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000201c9494a$2c21ccf0$6401a8c0@nant>
	<e04a6c920811200607i1f4d626cob596548f156e3dea@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <515D1F70109045DB912DD04E3D396141@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Bryan: Looks nice... Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 6:07 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Cottage renting web sites samples

Have a look at http://www.harmerscottages.com/

It's my ex-in-laws website for their cottages.

Bryan

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:52 AM, Shamil Salakhetdinov
<shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm looking for samples of cottages renting web sites - relatively small,
> user-friendly, and functional, looking attractive and tempting to rent
> advertised cottage(s) immediately, and run, ride, drive, fly there for
> vacations - something like this one:
>
> http://www.hookipabayview.com/index.html
>
> :)
>
> Any samples would be very helpful here and would be very much appreciated.
>
> The above site looks good but the one, which I'm looking for should have
> pages fitting 1024x768 or even 800x600 screen resolutions still having all
> the attributes listed above: relatively small, user-friendly,
functional,...
>
> Looking for some ideas for a probable cottage renting small web site
> project...
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
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>
>
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Nov 21 09:06:35 2008
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:06:35 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] emailing from a DOD based program
In-Reply-To: <000001c94bd8$8e69d750$6401a8c0@nant>
References: <4D6006408BA9418DB7E4FF1EA47F11CA@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<000001c94bd8$8e69d750$6401a8c0@nant>
Message-ID: <ECA4BC9F47B7488E9CF206E14EB9ED30@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi Shamil:

That would work under normal conditions, when using a standard Windows
program but the application I am working with is a DOS based product. Some
day we will update the software but right now the client is putting out a
huge sum for new hardware and this upgrade is the best they can afford.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil
Salakhetdinov
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:56 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] emailing from a DOD based program

Jim,

If sending e-mail via SMTP server is OK for your task then using .NET
framework would be an easy solution because .NET framework has built-in
classes for e-mailing using SMTP: I mean one can write a simple custom class
in C# or VB.NET, put it in .NET classlib and wrap this custom class/classlib
into CCW (COM Callable Wrapper), which can be used/called from within MS
Access VBA....

--
Shamil

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 2:06 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] emailing from a DOD based program

Hi Darren:

Thank you very much for your info.

Since I sent out the email I have been scanning the internet for the best
product. I looked at FEBOOTI and it looked great but it seems that BLAT
might be better regardless of the price.

Do you have any comments and further suggestions? That would be greatly
appreciated as I have no experience with any similar product and the time
line for getting the implementation completed is very tight.

If anyone else has experience with BLAT for an actual DOS command line
sample/pseudo sample would be greatly appreciated. Note; port 25 is
unavailable, of course, but the ISP does support direct access to their
email server (smart host).

Regards
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren D
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 2:11 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; 'Discussion of
Hardware and Software issues'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] emailing from a DOD based program

Hi Jim

Does the MailTo: tool work from a DOS prompt?

There is a tool called Febooti Command Line Email app - about $45. Not sure
how
good it is but I imagine it is fully configurable. It has a free trial
period -
No I'm not associated with them - Saw the product and thought it might be
useful


http://www.febooti.com/products/command-line-email/

See ya
 
Darren

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Friday, 21 November 2008 6:16 AM
To: 'Discussion of Hardware and Software issues'; 'Access Developers
discussion
and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] emailing from a DOD based program

Hi All:

Does anyone know a method to email from a DOS based POS program running
within a standard XP shell? The DOS based app can exit to the command prompt
and can even run some command apps but little more.

MTIA
Jim

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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 21 08:59:32 2008
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:59:32 +0000
Subject: [AccessD]  Automate import multiple sources
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-W2756BCF7CF181114766FE2D20F0@phx.gbl>
References: <441B3C415B36F54397BC7CC8567776E703D6BF10@tagmail.corp.dayzim.com>
	<BAY127-W2756BCF7CF181114766FE2D20F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY127-W40F33716EE0769A2B082A2D20F0@phx.gbl>


Hello All, I have a situation...client has 30+ BE mdbs...I've have transferred all to one. I need to put together something that will get the data from his 30 into the new single mdb. The 30 are all in the same folder on his network. Should I just store in a table the path to each MDB/table...and create the links in code? Then use an append query built on these links?  Any and all suggestions appreciated.  Thanks,  Mark
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 21 09:02:05 2008
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:02:05 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Automate Import Multiple Sources
In-Reply-To: <0b5501c94be7$fd2ad0e0$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
References: <441B3C415B36F54397BC7CC8567776E703D6BF10@tagmail.corp.dayzim.com>
	<BAY127-W2756BCF7CF181114766FE2D20F0@phx.gbl> 
	<0b5501c94be7$fd2ad0e0$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <BAY127-W326CCBD33F57D4BC07E70DD20F0@phx.gbl>


Just once...unless he find issues and goes back to old program and we have to do it again...But just this 1 project.
 
Thanks,
 
Mark> From: ssharkins at gmail.com> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:46:48 -0500> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Auto Backup> > I think it depends on why you're doing this? Are you going to do this often > or is this a one-time deal?> > Susan H.> > > >> > Hello All,> >> > I have a situation...client has 30+ BE mdbs...I've have transferred all to > > one. I need to put together something that will get the data from his 30 > > into the new single mdb. The 30 are all in the same folder on his > > network. Should I just store in a table the path to each MDB/table...and > > create the links in code? Then use an append query built on these links?> >> > -- > AccessD mailing list> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 21 09:15:54 2008
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:15:54 +0000
Subject: [AccessD]  OT kinda: Order of criteria in SQL statement
In-Reply-To: <0b5501c94be7$fd2ad0e0$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
References: <441B3C415B36F54397BC7CC8567776E703D6BF10@tagmail.corp.dayzim.com>
	<BAY127-W2756BCF7CF181114766FE2D20F0@phx.gbl> 
	<0b5501c94be7$fd2ad0e0$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <BAY127-W3521DBDEA87FB02DE5D3A3D20F0@phx.gbl>


Hello All,
 
Does the order/sequence you add your criteria (WHERE clause) in a SQL statement affect performance?  The query in question has a 'lookup' table that translates values from a certain field.  When I remove this table...the query no longer runs (times out...system has 10 minute governor).  This table join is right in the middle of the WHERE clause.  Removing this will not pull more rows, so unless the order matters...I can't understand what my issue is?
 
Thanks,
 
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Fri Nov 21 09:44:23 2008
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:44:23 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT kinda: Order of criteria in SQL statement
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-W3521DBDEA87FB02DE5D3A3D20F0@phx.gbl>
References: <441B3C415B36F54397BC7CC8567776E703D6BF10@tagmail.corp.dayzim.com><BAY127-W2756BCF7CF181114766FE2D20F0@phx.gbl>
	<0b5501c94be7$fd2ad0e0$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
	<BAY127-W3521DBDEA87FB02DE5D3A3D20F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <36BADCF03B74494B86CA54D23889B1D7@danwaters>

Mark - can you post the SQL statement?

Dan

-----Original Message-----


Hello All,
 
Does the order/sequence you add your criteria (WHERE clause) in a SQL
statement affect performance?  The query in question has a 'lookup' table
that translates values from a certain field.  When I remove this table...the
query no longer runs (times out...system has 10 minute governor).  This
table join is right in the middle of the WHERE clause.  Removing this will
not pull more rows, so unless the order matters...I can't understand what my
issue is?
 
Thanks,
 
Mark A. Matte
 
 



From markamatte at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 21 10:21:02 2008
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:21:02 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] OT kinda: Order of criteria in SQL statement
In-Reply-To: <36BADCF03B74494B86CA54D23889B1D7@danwaters>
References: <441B3C415B36F54397BC7CC8567776E703D6BF10@tagmail.corp.dayzim.com><BAY127-W2756BCF7CF181114766FE2D20F0@phx.gbl>
	<0b5501c94be7$fd2ad0e0$2f8601c7@SusanOne>
	<BAY127-W3521DBDEA87FB02DE5D3A3D20F0@phx.gbl> 
	<36BADCF03B74494B86CA54D23889B1D7@danwaters>
Message-ID: <BAY127-W49E2EA35CE1AE2DB73C21BD20F0@phx.gbl>


OK...This just got weirder...lets forget about the criteria...I decided to just not select the field...and the query crashed.  This SQL is running inside a PeopleSoft query tool.  I think the tool is doing something funny when executing.  All I did was omit a single field in the select statement...and I crashed again...Below is what runs...and does not...only dif I see is 1 less field in the select???  Thanks Mark
 
 
******************THIS RUNS**************************
SELECT A.CASE_ID, DATE( A.ROW_ADDED_DTTM), G.XLATLONGNAME, D.XLATLONGNAME, A.SR_COST,D.FIELDNAME,D.FIELDVALUE,D.EFFDT,G.FIELDNAME,G.FIELDVALUE,G.EFFDT 
FROM PS_SR_RC_CONCESS A, PS_RC_CASE E, PSXLATITEM D, PSXLATITEM G 
WHERE A.CASE_ID = E.CASE_ID 
AND A.BUSINESS_UNIT = E.BUSINESS_UNIT 
AND DATE( A.ROW_ADDED_DTTM) BETWEEN :1 AND :2 
AND D.EFFDT = 
(SELECT MAX(D_ED.EFFDT) FROM PSXLATITEM D_ED 
WHERE D.FIELDNAME = D_ED.FIELDNAME 
AND D.FIELDVALUE = D_ED.FIELDVALUE 
AND D_ED.EFFDT <= CURRENT DATE) 
AND A.SR_CONCE_STATUS = D.FIELDVALUE 
AND D.FIELDNAME = 'SR_CONCE_STATUS' 
AND G.EFFDT = 
(SELECT MAX(G_ED.EFFDT) FROM PSXLATITEM G_ED 
WHERE G.FIELDNAME = G_ED.FIELDNAME 
AND G.FIELDVALUE = G_ED.FIELDVALUE 
AND G_ED.EFFDT <= CURRENT DATE) 
AND G.FIELDNAME = 'SR_CONCE_TYPE' 
AND G.FIELDVALUE = A.SR_CONCE_TYPE 
AND E.RC_SEVERITY = '13' 
******************THIS RUNS**************************
 
******************DOES NOT RUN**************************
SELECT A.CASE_ID, DATE( A.ROW_ADDED_DTTM), G.XLATLONGNAME, A.SR_COST,D.FIELDNAME,D.FIELDVALUE,D.EFFDT,G.FIELDNAME,G.FIELDVALUE,G.EFFDT 
FROM PS_SR_RC_CONCESS A, PS_RC_CASE E, PSXLATITEM D, PSXLATITEM G 
WHERE A.CASE_ID = E.CASE_ID 
AND A.BUSINESS_UNIT = E.BUSINESS_UNIT 
AND DATE( A.ROW_ADDED_DTTM) BETWEEN :1 AND :2 
AND D.EFFDT = 
(SELECT MAX(D_ED.EFFDT) FROM PSXLATITEM D_ED 
WHERE D.FIELDNAME = D_ED.FIELDNAME 
AND D.FIELDVALUE = D_ED.FIELDVALUE 
AND D_ED.EFFDT <= CURRENT DATE) 
AND A.SR_CONCE_STATUS = D.FIELDVALUE 
AND D.FIELDNAME = 'SR_CONCE_STATUS' 
AND G.EFFDT = 
(SELECT MAX(G_ED.EFFDT) FROM PSXLATITEM G_ED 
WHERE G.FIELDNAME = G_ED.FIELDNAME 
AND G.FIELDVALUE = G_ED.FIELDVALUE 
AND G_ED.EFFDT <= CURRENT DATE) 
AND G.FIELDNAME = 'SR_CONCE_TYPE' 
AND G.FIELDVALUE = A.SR_CONCE_TYPE 
AND E.RC_SEVERITY = '13' 
******************DOES NOT RUN**************************
 


> From: dwaters at usinternet.com
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:44:23 -0600
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT kinda: Order of criteria in SQL statement
> 
> Mark - can you post the SQL statement?
> 
> Dan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Does the order/sequence you add your criteria (WHERE clause) in a SQL
> statement affect performance? The query in question has a 'lookup' table
> that translates values from a certain field. When I remove this table...the
> query no longer runs (times out...system has 10 minute governor). This
> table join is right in the middle of the WHERE clause. Removing this will
> not pull more rows, so unless the order matters...I can't understand what my
> issue is?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark A. Matte
> 
> 
> 
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Fri Nov 21 10:40:20 2008
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:40:20 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT kinda: Order of criteria in SQL statement
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-W49E2EA35CE1AE2DB73C21BD20F0@phx.gbl>
References: <441B3C415B36F54397BC7CC8567776E703D6BF10@tagmail.corp.dayzim.com><BAY127-W2756BCF7CF181114766FE2D20F0@phx.gbl><0b5501c94be7$fd2ad0e0$2f8601c7@SusanOne><BAY127-W3521DBDEA87FB02DE5D3A3D20F0@phx.gbl>
	<36BADCF03B74494B86CA54D23889B1D7@danwaters>
	<BAY127-W49E2EA35CE1AE2DB73C21BD20F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <538009BF7135419E8F464F72E59AD490@danwaters>

Hi Mark,

Sorry - I'm not familiar with PeopleSoft.

Dan

-----Original Message-----

OK...This just got weirder...lets forget about the criteria...I decided to
just not select the field...and the query crashed.  This SQL is running
inside a PeopleSoft query tool.  I think the tool is doing something funny
when executing.  All I did was omit a single field in the select
statement...and I crashed again...Below is what runs...and does not...only
dif I see is 1 less field in the select???  Thanks Mark
 
 
******************THIS RUNS**************************
SELECT A.CASE_ID, DATE( A.ROW_ADDED_DTTM), G.XLATLONGNAME, D.XLATLONGNAME,
A.SR_COST,D.FIELDNAME,D.FIELDVALUE,D.EFFDT,G.FIELDNAME,G.FIELDVALUE,G.EFFDT 
FROM PS_SR_RC_CONCESS A, PS_RC_CASE E, PSXLATITEM D, PSXLATITEM G 
WHERE A.CASE_ID = E.CASE_ID 
AND A.BUSINESS_UNIT = E.BUSINESS_UNIT 
AND DATE( A.ROW_ADDED_DTTM) BETWEEN :1 AND :2 
AND D.EFFDT = 
(SELECT MAX(D_ED.EFFDT) FROM PSXLATITEM D_ED 
WHERE D.FIELDNAME = D_ED.FIELDNAME 
AND D.FIELDVALUE = D_ED.FIELDVALUE 
AND D_ED.EFFDT <= CURRENT DATE) 
AND A.SR_CONCE_STATUS = D.FIELDVALUE 
AND D.FIELDNAME = 'SR_CONCE_STATUS' 
AND G.EFFDT = 
(SELECT MAX(G_ED.EFFDT) FROM PSXLATITEM G_ED 
WHERE G.FIELDNAME = G_ED.FIELDNAME 
AND G.FIELDVALUE = G_ED.FIELDVALUE 
AND G_ED.EFFDT <= CURRENT DATE) 
AND G.FIELDNAME = 'SR_CONCE_TYPE' 
AND G.FIELDVALUE = A.SR_CONCE_TYPE 
AND E.RC_SEVERITY = '13' 
******************THIS RUNS**************************
 
******************DOES NOT RUN**************************
SELECT A.CASE_ID, DATE( A.ROW_ADDED_DTTM), G.XLATLONGNAME,
A.SR_COST,D.FIELDNAME,D.FIELDVALUE,D.EFFDT,G.FIELDNAME,G.FIELDVALUE,G.EFFDT 
FROM PS_SR_RC_CONCESS A, PS_RC_CASE E, PSXLATITEM D, PSXLATITEM G 
WHERE A.CASE_ID = E.CASE_ID 
AND A.BUSINESS_UNIT = E.BUSINESS_UNIT 
AND DATE( A.ROW_ADDED_DTTM) BETWEEN :1 AND :2 
AND D.EFFDT = 
(SELECT MAX(D_ED.EFFDT) FROM PSXLATITEM D_ED 
WHERE D.FIELDNAME = D_ED.FIELDNAME 
AND D.FIELDVALUE = D_ED.FIELDVALUE 
AND D_ED.EFFDT <= CURRENT DATE) 
AND A.SR_CONCE_STATUS = D.FIELDVALUE 
AND D.FIELDNAME = 'SR_CONCE_STATUS' 
AND G.EFFDT = 
(SELECT MAX(G_ED.EFFDT) FROM PSXLATITEM G_ED 
WHERE G.FIELDNAME = G_ED.FIELDNAME 
AND G.FIELDVALUE = G_ED.FIELDVALUE 
AND G_ED.EFFDT <= CURRENT DATE) 
AND G.FIELDNAME = 'SR_CONCE_TYPE' 
AND G.FIELDVALUE = A.SR_CONCE_TYPE 
AND E.RC_SEVERITY = '13' 
******************DOES NOT RUN**************************
 


> From: dwaters at usinternet.com
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:44:23 -0600
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT kinda: Order of criteria in SQL statement
> 
> Mark - can you post the SQL statement?
> 
> Dan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Does the order/sequence you add your criteria (WHERE clause) in a SQL
> statement affect performance? The query in question has a 'lookup' table
> that translates values from a certain field. When I remove this
table...the
> query no longer runs (times out...system has 10 minute governor). This
> table join is right in the middle of the WHERE clause. Removing this will
> not pull more rows, so unless the order matters...I can't understand what
my
> issue is?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark A. Matte
> 
> 
> 
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From iggy at nanaimo.ark.com  Fri Nov 21 11:28:35 2008
From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com (Tony Septav)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:28:35 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
Message-ID: <4926EFC3.9000308@nanaimo.ark.com>

Hey All
After much research, I finally settled on looking at the trial version 
of WebEasy7.  I had to start somewhere, the more I researched the topic 
the more confusing it got, with all the pros and cons to different 
approaches. As I mentioned at the moment all I am concerned about  is 
getting a web page up and running, fancy will come later.
Thought this would give you all a laugh (talk about naive). The part I 
am finding most difficult, is filling in 4 pages of information - Home, 
Products, About Us and Contact us.  I know from a marketing point of 
view you are supposed to be trying to sell the company, but I have 
always been known as an individual who keeps things short and to the 
point. I figured one page would do it , but looking at other sites I 
don't think that is a good marketing idea. So I guess I will have to 
"time trip" through my 20 years of developing applications and put 
together an overview of what I can provide.  Here I thought I could bang 
this thing together in a couple of days,  but now I see it is going to 
take me 2 or 3 weeks to just initially put it together and come up with 
a powerful presentation.  My hat is off to those of you that have web 
sites, I now realize the work you put into to getting  them up and running.
 


From krosenstiel at comcast.net  Fri Nov 21 11:32:33 2008
From: krosenstiel at comcast.net (Karen Rosenstiel)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:32:33 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
In-Reply-To: <4926EFC3.9000308@nanaimo.ark.com>
Message-ID: <200811211732.mALHWA34005511@databaseadvisors.com>

Yup! I do the easy part -- the design. 


Regards,
 
Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 9:29 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Web Design

Hey All
After much research, I finally settled on looking at the trial version of
WebEasy7.  I had to start somewhere, the more I researched the topic the
more confusing it got, with all the pros and cons to different approaches.
As I mentioned at the moment all I am concerned about  is getting a web page
up and running, fancy will come later.
Thought this would give you all a laugh (talk about naive). The part I am
finding most difficult, is filling in 4 pages of information - Home,
Products, About Us and Contact us.  I know from a marketing point of view
you are supposed to be trying to sell the company, but I have always been
known as an individual who keeps things short and to the point. I figured
one page would do it , but looking at other sites I don't think that is a
good marketing idea. So I guess I will have to "time trip" through my 20
years of developing applications and put together an overview of what I can
provide.  Here I thought I could bang this thing together in a couple of
days,  but now I see it is going to take me 2 or 3 weeks to just initially
put it together and come up with a powerful presentation.  My hat is off to
those of you that have web sites, I now realize the work you put into to
getting  them up and running.
 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Nov 21 17:43:52 2008
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:43:52 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
In-Reply-To: <4926EFC3.9000308@nanaimo.ark.com>
References: <4926EFC3.9000308@nanaimo.ark.com>
Message-ID: <4927D458.20197.34181C2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

I've just updated my site at http://www.lexacorp.com.pg over the last few days.

I built it using frames <bleuch> about 6 or 7 years ago and 
it was looking very tired and old fashioned.

The new version uses Server Side Includes for a consistent layout

That way I just need a line
<!--#include virtual="header.html" -->
in each page rather than repeating all the background, header image, menu code etc.
I do the same for the footer. 

Incidentally, the menu is a straight lift from 
<quote>
/***********************************************
* CSS Horizontal List Menu- by JavaScript Kit (www.javascriptkit.com)
* Menu interface credits: http://www.dynamicdrive.com/style/csslibrary/item/glossy-vertical-
menu/ 
* This notice must stay intact for usage
* Visit JavaScript Kit at http://www.javascriptkit.com/ for this script and 100s more
***********************************************/
</quote>

Feel free  to steal any ideas you need for content.
Rocky's site, build by  Karen Rosenstiel,  may give you a few ideas too.

Actually, I've never found a WYSIWYG site designer that I like - I've ended up doing it hand 
with a text editor which understands HTML syntax.  (I swap between Crimson Editor and 
NoteTab)  

-- 
Stuart


On 21 Nov 2008 at 9:28, Tony Septav wrote:

> Hey All
> After much research, I finally settled on looking at the trial version 
> of WebEasy7.  I had to start somewhere, the more I researched the topic 
> the more confusing it got, with all the pros and cons to different 
> approaches. As I mentioned at the moment all I am concerned about  is 
> getting a web page up and running, fancy will come later.
> Thought this would give you all a laugh (talk about naive). The part I 
> am finding most difficult, is filling in 4 pages of information - Home, 
> Products, About Us and Contact us.  I know from a marketing point of 
> view you are supposed to be trying to sell the company, but I have 
> always been known as an individual who keeps things short and to the 
> point. I figured one page would do it , but looking at other sites I 
> don't think that is a good marketing idea. So I guess I will have to 
> "time trip" through my 20 years of developing applications and put 
> together an overview of what I can provide.  Here I thought I could bang 
> this thing together in a couple of days,  but now I see it is going to 
> take me 2 or 3 weeks to just initially put it together and come up with 
> a powerful presentation.  My hat is off to those of you that have web 
> sites, I now realize the work you put into to getting  them up and running.
>  
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Fri Nov 21 17:49:24 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:49:24 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
In-Reply-To: <4927D458.20197.34181C2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <4926EFC3.9000308@nanaimo.ark.com>
	<4927D458.20197.34181C2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <BCD3BE5124CA423EB953FF1BB461B21D@HAL9005>

Lovely.  Loads fast. I like that.  

OK, I gotta ask - how'd you end up in PNG?  Or did you start there? 


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 3:44 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design

I've just updated my site at http://www.lexacorp.com.pg over the last few
days.

I built it using frames <bleuch> about 6 or 7 years ago and it was looking
very tired and old fashioned.

The new version uses Server Side Includes for a consistent layout

That way I just need a line
<!--#include virtual="header.html" -->
in each page rather than repeating all the background, header image, menu
code etc.
I do the same for the footer. 

Incidentally, the menu is a straight lift from <quote>
/***********************************************
* CSS Horizontal List Menu- by JavaScript Kit (www.javascriptkit.com)
* Menu interface credits:
http://www.dynamicdrive.com/style/csslibrary/item/glossy-vertical-
menu/
* This notice must stay intact for usage
* Visit JavaScript Kit at http://www.javascriptkit.com/ for this script and
100s more ***********************************************/
</quote>

Feel free  to steal any ideas you need for content.
Rocky's site, build by  Karen Rosenstiel,  may give you a few ideas too.

Actually, I've never found a WYSIWYG site designer that I like - I've ended
up doing it hand with a text editor which understands HTML syntax.  (I swap
between Crimson Editor and
NoteTab)  

--
Stuart


On 21 Nov 2008 at 9:28, Tony Septav wrote:

> Hey All
> After much research, I finally settled on looking at the trial version 
> of WebEasy7.  I had to start somewhere, the more I researched the topic 
> the more confusing it got, with all the pros and cons to different 
> approaches. As I mentioned at the moment all I am concerned about  is 
> getting a web page up and running, fancy will come later.
> Thought this would give you all a laugh (talk about naive). The part I 
> am finding most difficult, is filling in 4 pages of information - Home, 
> Products, About Us and Contact us.  I know from a marketing point of 
> view you are supposed to be trying to sell the company, but I have 
> always been known as an individual who keeps things short and to the 
> point. I figured one page would do it , but looking at other sites I 
> don't think that is a good marketing idea. So I guess I will have to 
> "time trip" through my 20 years of developing applications and put 
> together an overview of what I can provide.  Here I thought I could bang 
> this thing together in a couple of days,  but now I see it is going to 
> take me 2 or 3 weeks to just initially put it together and come up with 
> a powerful presentation.  My hat is off to those of you that have web 
> sites, I now realize the work you put into to getting  them up and
running.
>  
> -- 
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> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Nov 21 18:49:29 2008
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:49:29 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
In-Reply-To: <BCD3BE5124CA423EB953FF1BB461B21D@HAL9005>
References: <4926EFC3.9000308@nanaimo.ark.com>,
	<4927D458.20197.34181C2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<BCD3BE5124CA423EB953FF1BB461B21D@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <4927E3B9.2965.37D941F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

It needs to load fast, a lot of potential clients in PNG are on dial up.


Since you ask:
I came to PNG in 1986, on a three year contract, to set up training and testing systems with 
the PNG Police College.  They were looking for people with disciplined forces and training 
backgrounds and I had  12 years as an infantry officer in the New  Zealand Army including 
several postings as an instructor in various areas.  

I'd been into computer since about 1980, both as a hobbyist and at work and ended up 
developing student records and exam marking systems in Dataflex (running on C/CPM on 
serial networked ICL Quattros - ah, those were the days<g>)
  
Found that I liked the lifestyle here so I stayed.   Started developing all sorts of Information 
Systems on the side for various people and ended up in 1993 going independent full time,  
using Dataflex mainly, but about then I discovered MS Access 1.1 and I've never looked 
back. ( although we only put the last Dataflex system that I was involved with to sleep at the 
beginning of this year!).


-- 
Stuart

On 21 Nov 2008 at 15:49, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access  wrote:

> Lovely.  Loads fast. I like that.  
> 
> OK, I gotta ask - how'd you end up in PNG?  Or did you start there? 
> 
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.e-z-mrp.com
> www.bchacc.com
>  
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 3:44 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
> 
> I've just updated my site at http://www.lexacorp.com.pg over the last few
> days.
> 
> I built it using frames <bleuch> about 6 or 7 years ago and it was looking
> very tired and old fashioned.
> 
> The new version uses Server Side Includes for a consistent layout
> 
> That way I just need a line
> <!--#include virtual="header.html" -->
> in each page rather than repeating all the background, header image, menu
> code etc.
> I do the same for the footer. 
> 
> Incidentally, the menu is a straight lift from <quote>
> /***********************************************
> * CSS Horizontal List Menu- by JavaScript Kit (www.javascriptkit.com)
> * Menu interface credits:
> http://www.dynamicdrive.com/style/csslibrary/item/glossy-vertical-
> menu/
> * This notice must stay intact for usage
> * Visit JavaScript Kit at http://www.javascriptkit.com/ for this script and
> 100s more ***********************************************/
> </quote>
> 
> Feel free  to steal any ideas you need for content.
> Rocky's site, build by  Karen Rosenstiel,  may give you a few ideas too.
> 
> Actually, I've never found a WYSIWYG site designer that I like - I've ended
> up doing it hand with a text editor which understands HTML syntax.  (I swap
> between Crimson Editor and
> NoteTab)  
> 
> --
> Stuart
> 
> 
> On 21 Nov 2008 at 9:28, Tony Septav wrote:
> 
> > Hey All
> > After much research, I finally settled on looking at the trial version 
> > of WebEasy7.  I had to start somewhere, the more I researched the topic 
> > the more confusing it got, with all the pros and cons to different 
> > approaches. As I mentioned at the moment all I am concerned about  is 
> > getting a web page up and running, fancy will come later.
> > Thought this would give you all a laugh (talk about naive). The part I 
> > am finding most difficult, is filling in 4 pages of information - Home, 
> > Products, About Us and Contact us.  I know from a marketing point of 
> > view you are supposed to be trying to sell the company, but I have 
> > always been known as an individual who keeps things short and to the 
> > point. I figured one page would do it , but looking at other sites I 
> > don't think that is a good marketing idea. So I guess I will have to 
> > "time trip" through my 20 years of developing applications and put 
> > together an overview of what I can provide.  Here I thought I could bang 
> > this thing together in a couple of days,  but now I see it is going to 
> > take me 2 or 3 weeks to just initially put it together and come up with 
> > a powerful presentation.  My hat is off to those of you that have web 
> > sites, I now realize the work you put into to getting  them up and
> running.
> >  
> > -- 
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> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> 
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Fri Nov 21 18:58:23 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:58:23 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
In-Reply-To: <4927E3B9.2965.37D941F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <4926EFC3.9000308@nanaimo.ark.com>,
	<4927D458.20197.34181C2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<BCD3BE5124CA423EB953FF1BB461B21D@HAL9005>
	<4927E3B9.2965.37D941F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <2BE8DBBBCECB4102B962DF55460B51CD@HAL9005>

Interesting.  Further nosiness (and Mr Moderator - it IS OT Friday) - are
you married and/or have kids?  Can you raise a family there?   It looks
pretty moderne from the picture on the web site.  Decent infrastructure?
Healthcare? Stable government/economy/society?  


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design

It needs to load fast, a lot of potential clients in PNG are on dial up.


Since you ask:
I came to PNG in 1986, on a three year contract, to set up training and
testing systems with the PNG Police College.  They were looking for people
with disciplined forces and training backgrounds and I had  12 years as an
infantry officer in the New  Zealand Army including several postings as an
instructor in various areas.  

I'd been into computer since about 1980, both as a hobbyist and at work and
ended up developing student records and exam marking systems in Dataflex
(running on C/CPM on serial networked ICL Quattros - ah, those were the
days<g>)
  
Found that I liked the lifestyle here so I stayed.   Started developing all
sorts of Information 
Systems on the side for various people and ended up in 1993 going
independent full time, using Dataflex mainly, but about then I discovered MS
Access 1.1 and I've never looked back. ( although we only put the last
Dataflex system that I was involved with to sleep at the beginning of this
year!).


--
Stuart

On 21 Nov 2008 at 15:49, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access  wrote:

> Lovely.  Loads fast. I like that.  
> 
> OK, I gotta ask - how'd you end up in PNG?  Or did you start there? 
> 
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.e-z-mrp.com
> www.bchacc.com
>  
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart 
> McLachlan
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 3:44 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
> 
> I've just updated my site at http://www.lexacorp.com.pg over the last 
> few days.
> 
> I built it using frames <bleuch> about 6 or 7 years ago and it was 
> looking very tired and old fashioned.
> 
> The new version uses Server Side Includes for a consistent layout
> 
> That way I just need a line
> <!--#include virtual="header.html" --> in each page rather than 
> repeating all the background, header image, menu code etc.
> I do the same for the footer. 
> 
> Incidentally, the menu is a straight lift from <quote>
> /***********************************************
> * CSS Horizontal List Menu- by JavaScript Kit (www.javascriptkit.com)
> * Menu interface credits:
> http://www.dynamicdrive.com/style/csslibrary/item/glossy-vertical-
> menu/
> * This notice must stay intact for usage
> * Visit JavaScript Kit at http://www.javascriptkit.com/ for this 
> script and 100s more ***********************************************/
> </quote>
> 
> Feel free  to steal any ideas you need for content.
> Rocky's site, build by  Karen Rosenstiel,  may give you a few ideas too.
> 
> Actually, I've never found a WYSIWYG site designer that I like - I've 
> ended up doing it hand with a text editor which understands HTML 
> syntax.  (I swap between Crimson Editor and
> NoteTab)
> 
> --
> Stuart
> 
> 
> On 21 Nov 2008 at 9:28, Tony Septav wrote:
> 
> > Hey All
> > After much research, I finally settled on looking at the trial 
> > version of WebEasy7.  I had to start somewhere, the more I 
> > researched the topic the more confusing it got, with all the pros 
> > and cons to different approaches. As I mentioned at the moment all I 
> > am concerned about  is getting a web page up and running, fancy will
come later.
> > Thought this would give you all a laugh (talk about naive). The part 
> > I am finding most difficult, is filling in 4 pages of information - 
> > Home, Products, About Us and Contact us.  I know from a marketing 
> > point of view you are supposed to be trying to sell the company, but 
> > I have always been known as an individual who keeps things short and 
> > to the point. I figured one page would do it , but looking at other 
> > sites I don't think that is a good marketing idea. So I guess I will 
> > have to "time trip" through my 20 years of developing applications 
> > and put together an overview of what I can provide.  Here I thought 
> > I could bang this thing together in a couple of days,  but now I see 
> > it is going to take me 2 or 3 weeks to just initially put it 
> > together and come up with a powerful presentation.  My hat is off to 
> > those of you that have web sites, I now realize the work you put 
> > into to getting  them up and
> running.
> >  
> > --
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Nov 21 19:18:52 2008
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 11:18:52 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
In-Reply-To: <2BE8DBBBCECB4102B962DF55460B51CD@HAL9005>
References: <4926EFC3.9000308@nanaimo.ark.com>,
	<4927E3B9.2965.37D941F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<2BE8DBBBCECB4102B962DF55460B51CD@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <4927EA9C.11307.3987B54@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Raised a family here in the late 80's - they're now grown up. 
Not sure where that wife is now :-)

My current partner is PNGean and we have a six year old daughter (and I'll be 60 in 3 
montsh time <g>)

The picture is the downtown area of Port Moresby - the rest of the country is very different!

There are good international schools in Port Moresby - they use an Australian curriculum
and the students generally do *very* well in the Australian examinations!

Public healthcare is very primitve , but the private medical practitioners in Port Moresby are 
fairly good.

Government is fairly stable, but also fairly corrupt.  The economy went through a bad patch 
but is looking good - huge LNG prospects dveloping over the next few years will quadruple 
the countries GDP - business confidence is high and there is a lot of development going on.

We're actually better off at the moment that the rest of the world - PNG was not really 
exposed to the financial crisis and is a major exporter - even with the drop in commodity 
prices it's on track for budget surpluses even after failry large  infrastructure/development 
spending next year.

Law and Order is a bit of a problem - a lot of unemployment and crime in the urban centres, 
but it's not as bad as the Australian media tries to make it seem.

The big plus is the lifestyle:

Great social life, great climate and a lot of freedom to do your own thing.
 
No speed cameras or breath testing - get stopped at a road block on your way home after a 
night drinking at a club and the cop will probably as drunk as you are <g> 


Cheers,
Stuart


  On 21 Nov 2008 at 16:58, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote:

> Interesting.  Further nosiness (and Mr Moderator - it IS OT Friday) - are
> you married and/or have kids?  Can you raise a family there?   It looks
> pretty moderne from the picture on the web site.  Decent infrastructure?
> Healthcare? Stable government/economy/society?  
> 
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.e-z-mrp.com
> www.bchacc.com
>  
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:49 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
> 
> It needs to load fast, a lot of potential clients in PNG are on dial up.
> 
> 
> Since you ask:
> I came to PNG in 1986, on a three year contract, to set up training and
> testing systems with the PNG Police College.  They were looking for people
> with disciplined forces and training backgrounds and I had  12 years as an
> infantry officer in the New  Zealand Army including several postings as an
> instructor in various areas.  
> 
> I'd been into computer since about 1980, both as a hobbyist and at work and
> ended up developing student records and exam marking systems in Dataflex
> (running on C/CPM on serial networked ICL Quattros - ah, those were the
> days<g>)
>   
> Found that I liked the lifestyle here so I stayed.   Started developing all
> sorts of Information 
> Systems on the side for various people and ended up in 1993 going
> independent full time, using Dataflex mainly, but about then I discovered MS
> Access 1.1 and I've never looked back. ( although we only put the last
> Dataflex system that I was involved with to sleep at the beginning of this
> year!).
> 
> 
> --
> Stuart
> 
> On 21 Nov 2008 at 15:49, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access  wrote:
> 
> > Lovely.  Loads fast. I like that.  
> > 
> > OK, I gotta ask - how'd you end up in PNG?  Or did you start there? 
> > 
> > 
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > 858-259-4334
> > www.e-z-mrp.com
> > www.bchacc.com
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart 
> > McLachlan
> > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 3:44 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
> > 
> > I've just updated my site at http://www.lexacorp.com.pg over the last 
> > few days.
> > 
> > I built it using frames <bleuch> about 6 or 7 years ago and it was 
> > looking very tired and old fashioned.
> > 
> > The new version uses Server Side Includes for a consistent layout
> > 
> > That way I just need a line
> > <!--#include virtual="header.html" --> in each page rather than 
> > repeating all the background, header image, menu code etc.
> > I do the same for the footer. 
> > 
> > Incidentally, the menu is a straight lift from <quote>
> > /***********************************************
> > * CSS Horizontal List Menu- by JavaScript Kit (www.javascriptkit.com)
> > * Menu interface credits:
> > http://www.dynamicdrive.com/style/csslibrary/item/glossy-vertical-
> > menu/
> > * This notice must stay intact for usage
> > * Visit JavaScript Kit at http://www.javascriptkit.com/ for this 
> > script and 100s more ***********************************************/
> > </quote>
> > 
> > Feel free  to steal any ideas you need for content.
> > Rocky's site, build by  Karen Rosenstiel,  may give you a few ideas too.
> > 
> > Actually, I've never found a WYSIWYG site designer that I like - I've 
> > ended up doing it hand with a text editor which understands HTML 
> > syntax.  (I swap between Crimson Editor and
> > NoteTab)
> > 
> > --
> > Stuart
> > 
> > 
> > On 21 Nov 2008 at 9:28, Tony Septav wrote:
> > 
> > > Hey All
> > > After much research, I finally settled on looking at the trial 
> > > version of WebEasy7.  I had to start somewhere, the more I 
> > > researched the topic the more confusing it got, with all the pros 
> > > and cons to different approaches. As I mentioned at the moment all I 
> > > am concerned about  is getting a web page up and running, fancy will
> come later.
> > > Thought this would give you all a laugh (talk about naive). The part 
> > > I am finding most difficult, is filling in 4 pages of information - 
> > > Home, Products, About Us and Contact us.  I know from a marketing 
> > > point of view you are supposed to be trying to sell the company, but 
> > > I have always been known as an individual who keeps things short and 
> > > to the point. I figured one page would do it , but looking at other 
> > > sites I don't think that is a good marketing idea. So I guess I will 
> > > have to "time trip" through my 20 years of developing applications 
> > > and put together an overview of what I can provide.  Here I thought 
> > > I could bang this thing together in a couple of days,  but now I see 
> > > it is going to take me 2 or 3 weeks to just initially put it 
> > > together and come up with a powerful presentation.  My hat is off to 
> > > those of you that have web sites, I now realize the work you put 
> > > into to getting  them up and
> > running.
> > >  
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Fri Nov 21 19:31:01 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:31:01 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
In-Reply-To: <4927EA9C.11307.3987B54@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <4926EFC3.9000308@nanaimo.ark.com>,
	<4927E3B9.2965.37D941F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<2BE8DBBBCECB4102B962DF55460B51CD@HAL9005>
	<4927EA9C.11307.3987B54@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <AC7482B5E43D463F8F48C2AD7274E377@HAL9005>

Dang!  Sounds nice. Oh, forgot to ask - race relations (most of the whites
are going to be ex-pats. Yes?) and religion, everything peaceable? It would
seem with almost 100% Christian.  In wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Papua_New_Guinea no mention of
Islam. So no Moslems?  Animism?

P.S.  I'll be 60 myself next month if everything goes according to plan.
Late starter.  Kids are 12 and 18.


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 5:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design

Raised a family here in the late 80's - they're now grown up. 
Not sure where that wife is now :-)

My current partner is PNGean and we have a six year old daughter (and I'll
be 60 in 3 montsh time <g>)

The picture is the downtown area of Port Moresby - the rest of the country
is very different!

There are good international schools in Port Moresby - they use an
Australian curriculum and the students generally do *very* well in the
Australian examinations!

Public healthcare is very primitve , but the private medical practitioners
in Port Moresby are fairly good.

Government is fairly stable, but also fairly corrupt.  The economy went
through a bad patch but is looking good - huge LNG prospects dveloping over
the next few years will quadruple the countries GDP - business confidence is
high and there is a lot of development going on.

We're actually better off at the moment that the rest of the world - PNG was
not really exposed to the financial crisis and is a major exporter - even
with the drop in commodity prices it's on track for budget surpluses even
after failry large  infrastructure/development spending next year.

Law and Order is a bit of a problem - a lot of unemployment and crime in the
urban centres, but it's not as bad as the Australian media tries to make it
seem.

The big plus is the lifestyle:

Great social life, great climate and a lot of freedom to do your own thing.
 
No speed cameras or breath testing - get stopped at a road block on your way
home after a night drinking at a club and the cop will probably as drunk as
you are <g> 


Cheers,
Stuart


  On 21 Nov 2008 at 16:58, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote:

> Interesting.  Further nosiness (and Mr Moderator - it IS OT Friday) - are
> you married and/or have kids?  Can you raise a family there?   It looks
> pretty moderne from the picture on the web site.  Decent infrastructure?
> Healthcare? Stable government/economy/society?  
> 
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.e-z-mrp.com
> www.bchacc.com
>  
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:49 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
> 
> It needs to load fast, a lot of potential clients in PNG are on dial up.
> 
> 
> Since you ask:
> I came to PNG in 1986, on a three year contract, to set up training and
> testing systems with the PNG Police College.  They were looking for people
> with disciplined forces and training backgrounds and I had  12 years as an
> infantry officer in the New  Zealand Army including several postings as an
> instructor in various areas.  
> 
> I'd been into computer since about 1980, both as a hobbyist and at work
and
> ended up developing student records and exam marking systems in Dataflex
> (running on C/CPM on serial networked ICL Quattros - ah, those were the
> days<g>)
>   
> Found that I liked the lifestyle here so I stayed.   Started developing
all
> sorts of Information 
> Systems on the side for various people and ended up in 1993 going
> independent full time, using Dataflex mainly, but about then I discovered
MS
> Access 1.1 and I've never looked back. ( although we only put the last
> Dataflex system that I was involved with to sleep at the beginning of this
> year!).
> 
> 
> --
> Stuart
> 
> On 21 Nov 2008 at 15:49, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access  wrote:
> 
> > Lovely.  Loads fast. I like that.  
> > 
> > OK, I gotta ask - how'd you end up in PNG?  Or did you start there? 
> > 
> > 
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > 858-259-4334
> > www.e-z-mrp.com
> > www.bchacc.com
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart 
> > McLachlan
> > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 3:44 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
> > 
> > I've just updated my site at http://www.lexacorp.com.pg over the last 
> > few days.
> > 
> > I built it using frames <bleuch> about 6 or 7 years ago and it was 
> > looking very tired and old fashioned.
> > 
> > The new version uses Server Side Includes for a consistent layout
> > 
> > That way I just need a line
> > <!--#include virtual="header.html" --> in each page rather than 
> > repeating all the background, header image, menu code etc.
> > I do the same for the footer. 
> > 
> > Incidentally, the menu is a straight lift from <quote>
> > /***********************************************
> > * CSS Horizontal List Menu- by JavaScript Kit (www.javascriptkit.com)
> > * Menu interface credits:
> > http://www.dynamicdrive.com/style/csslibrary/item/glossy-vertical-
> > menu/
> > * This notice must stay intact for usage
> > * Visit JavaScript Kit at http://www.javascriptkit.com/ for this 
> > script and 100s more ***********************************************/
> > </quote>
> > 
> > Feel free  to steal any ideas you need for content.
> > Rocky's site, build by  Karen Rosenstiel,  may give you a few ideas too.
> > 
> > Actually, I've never found a WYSIWYG site designer that I like - I've 
> > ended up doing it hand with a text editor which understands HTML 
> > syntax.  (I swap between Crimson Editor and
> > NoteTab)
> > 
> > --
> > Stuart
> > 
> > 
> > On 21 Nov 2008 at 9:28, Tony Septav wrote:
> > 
> > > Hey All
> > > After much research, I finally settled on looking at the trial 
> > > version of WebEasy7.  I had to start somewhere, the more I 
> > > researched the topic the more confusing it got, with all the pros 
> > > and cons to different approaches. As I mentioned at the moment all I 
> > > am concerned about  is getting a web page up and running, fancy will
> come later.
> > > Thought this would give you all a laugh (talk about naive). The part 
> > > I am finding most difficult, is filling in 4 pages of information - 
> > > Home, Products, About Us and Contact us.  I know from a marketing 
> > > point of view you are supposed to be trying to sell the company, but 
> > > I have always been known as an individual who keeps things short and 
> > > to the point. I figured one page would do it , but looking at other 
> > > sites I don't think that is a good marketing idea. So I guess I will 
> > > have to "time trip" through my 20 years of developing applications 
> > > and put together an overview of what I can provide.  Here I thought 
> > > I could bang this thing together in a couple of days,  but now I see 
> > > it is going to take me 2 or 3 weeks to just initially put it 
> > > together and come up with a powerful presentation.  My hat is off to 
> > > those of you that have web sites, I now realize the work you put 
> > > into to getting  them up and
> > running.
> > >  
> > > --
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> > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
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> > 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Nov 21 21:07:09 2008
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:07:09 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
In-Reply-To: <AC7482B5E43D463F8F48C2AD7274E377@HAL9005>
References: <4926EFC3.9000308@nanaimo.ark.com>,
	<4927EA9C.11307.3987B54@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<AC7482B5E43D463F8F48C2AD7274E377@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <492803FD.25732.3FB9E84@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

There's a fairly high proportion of Phillipino and Indian/Sri Lankan expats as 
well as a lot of aussies, kiwis and brits.  

The most racist group would be the nationals, but it's not them against the 
expats, it's tribal/regional.    My missus is local - Southern Region Coastal and 
she really doesn't like Highlanders :-)

The country was very heavily influenced by missionaries over the last 100 
years, so churches are very strong - and in most of the country are the only 
ones providing decent health and education services.  

There's a small Islamic community, mainly ex-pat but a few converted 
nationals, there is aboslutely NO fundamentalism. 

Although everyone will tell you they are Christian, and a lot will go to church 
every Sunday, there is an almost universal  belief in socrcery, spirits, animism 
etc.   Religion is fairly new, the culture is thousands of years old - quite a few 
people are still killed every year in villages, especially in the Highlands, after 
being accused of sorcery.

It's a really fascinating country to study - over 800 languages and numerous 
totally different cultures - the Highlands and coastal regions where settled at 
different times by totally different people - highlands languages are totally 
different from coastal/island languages.  The Highlanders are more like 
Australian aboriginals, the coastal/islands are  more like polynesians.

-- 
Stuart  

On 21 Nov 2008 at 17:31, Rocky Smolin at Beach Accesand many different


--
Stuart

> Dang!  Sounds nice. Oh, forgot to ask - race relations (most of the whites
> are going to be ex-pats. Yes?) and religion, everything peaceable? It would
> seem with almost 100% Christian.  In wiki
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Papua_New_Guinea no mention of
> Islam. So no Moslems?  Animism?
> 
> P.S.  I'll be 60 myself next month if everything goes according to plan.
> Late starter.  Kids are 12 and 18.
> 
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.e-z-mrp.com
> www.bchacc.com
>  
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 5:19 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
> 
> Raised a family here in the late 80's - they're now grown up. 
> Not sure where that wife is now :-)
> 
> My current partner is PNGean and we have a six year old daughter (and I'll
> be 60 in 3 montsh time <g>)
> 
> The picture is the downtown area of Port Moresby - the rest of the country
> is very different!
> 
> There are good international schools in Port Moresby - they use an
> Australian curriculum and the students generally do *very* well in the
> Australian examinations!
> 
> Public healthcare is very primitve , but the private medical practitioners
> in Port Moresby are fairly good.
> 
> Government is fairly stable, but also fairly corrupt.  The economy went
> through a bad patch but is looking good - huge LNG prospects dveloping over
> the next few years will quadruple the countries GDP - business confidence is
> high and there is a lot of development going on.
> 
> We're actually better off at the moment that the rest of the world - PNG was
> not really exposed to the financial crisis and is a major exporter - even
> with the drop in commodity prices it's on track for budget surpluses even
> after failry large  infrastructure/development spending next year.
> 
> Law and Order is a bit of a problem - a lot of unemployment and crime in the
> urban centres, but it's not as bad as the Australian media tries to make it
> seem.
> 
> The big plus is the lifestyle:
> 
> Great social life, great climate and a lot of freedom to do your own thing.
>  
> No speed cameras or breath testing - get stopped at a road block on your way
> home after a night drinking at a club and the cop will probably as drunk as
> you are <g> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Stuart
> 
> 
>   On 21 Nov 2008 at 16:58, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote:
> 
> > Interesting.  Further nosiness (and Mr Moderator - it IS OT Friday) - are
> > you married and/or have kids?  Can you raise a family there?   It looks
> > pretty moderne from the picture on the web site.  Decent infrastructure?
> > Healthcare? Stable government/economy/society?  
> > 
> > 
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > 858-259-4334
> > www.e-z-mrp.com
> > www.bchacc.com
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
> McLachlan
> > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:49 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
> > 
> > It needs to load fast, a lot of potential clients in PNG are on dial up.
> > 
> > 
> > Since you ask:
> > I came to PNG in 1986, on a three year contract, to set up training and
> > testing systems with the PNG Police College.  They were looking for people
> > with disciplined forces and training backgrounds and I had  12 years as an
> > infantry officer in the New  Zealand Army including several postings as an
> > instructor in various areas.  
> > 
> > I'd been into computer since about 1980, both as a hobbyist and at work
> and
> > ended up developing student records and exam marking systems in Dataflex
> > (running on C/CPM on serial networked ICL Quattros - ah, those were the
> > days<g>)
> >   
> > Found that I liked the lifestyle here so I stayed.   Started developing
> all
> > sorts of Information 
> > Systems on the side for various people and ended up in 1993 going
> > independent full time, using Dataflex mainly, but about then I discovered
> MS
> > Access 1.1 and I've never looked back. ( although we only put the last
> > Dataflex system that I was involved with to sleep at the beginning of this
> > year!).
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Stuart
> > 
> > On 21 Nov 2008 at 15:49, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access  wrote:
> > 
> > > Lovely.  Loads fast. I like that.  
> > > 
> > > OK, I gotta ask - how'd you end up in PNG?  Or did you start there? 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Rocky Smolin
> > > Beach Access Software
> > > 858-259-4334
> > > www.e-z-mrp.com
> > > www.bchacc.com
> > >  
> > >  
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart 
> > > McLachlan
> > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 3:44 PM
> > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
> > > 
> > > I've just updated my site at http://www.lexacorp.com.pg over the last 
> > > few days.
> > > 
> > > I built it using frames <bleuch> about 6 or 7 years ago and it was 
> > > looking very tired and old fashioned.
> > > 
> > > The new version uses Server Side Includes for a consistent layout
> > > 
> > > That way I just need a line
> > > <!--#include virtual="header.html" --> in each page rather than 
> > > repeating all the background, header image, menu code etc.
> > > I do the same for the footer. 
> > > 
> > > Incidentally, the menu is a straight lift from <quote>
> > > /***********************************************
> > > * CSS Horizontal List Menu- by JavaScript Kit (www.javascriptkit.com)
> > > * Menu interface credits:
> > > http://www.dynamicdrive.com/style/csslibrary/item/glossy-vertical-
> > > menu/
> > > * This notice must stay intact for usage
> > > * Visit JavaScript Kit at http://www.javascriptkit.com/ for this 
> > > script and 100s more ***********************************************/
> > > </quote>
> > > 
> > > Feel free  to steal any ideas you need for content.
> > > Rocky's site, build by  Karen Rosenstiel,  may give you a few ideas too.
> > > 
> > > Actually, I've never found a WYSIWYG site designer that I like - I've 
> > > ended up doing it hand with a text editor which understands HTML 
> > > syntax.  (I swap between Crimson Editor and
> > > NoteTab)
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Stuart
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 21 Nov 2008 at 9:28, Tony Septav wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hey All
> > > > After much research, I finally settled on looking at the trial 
> > > > version of WebEasy7.  I had to start somewhere, the more I 
> > > > researched the topic the more confusing it got, with all the pros 
> > > > and cons to different approaches. As I mentioned at the moment all I 
> > > > am concerned about  is getting a web page up and running, fancy will
> > come later.
> > > > Thought this would give you all a laugh (talk about naive). The part 
> > > > I am finding most difficult, is filling in 4 pages of information - 
> > > > Home, Products, About Us and Contact us.  I know from a marketing 
> > > > point of view you are supposed to be trying to sell the company, but 
> > > > I have always been known as an individual who keeps things short and 
> > > > to the point. I figured one page would do it , but looking at other 
> > > > sites I don't think that is a good marketing idea. So I guess I will 
> > > > have to "time trip" through my 20 years of developing applications 
> > > > and put together an overview of what I can provide.  Here I thought 
> > > > I could bang this thing together in a couple of days,  but now I see 
> > > > it is going to take me 2 or 3 weeks to just initially put it 
> > > > together and come up with a powerful presentation.  My hat is off to 
> > > > those of you that have web sites, I now realize the work you put 
> > > > into to getting  them up and
> > > running.
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Fri Nov 21 22:02:20 2008
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:02:20 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
In-Reply-To: <492803FD.25732.3FB9E84@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <4926EFC3.9000308@nanaimo.ark.com>,
	<4927EA9C.11307.3987B54@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<AC7482B5E43D463F8F48C2AD7274E377@HAL9005>
	<492803FD.25732.3FB9E84@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <9946BC173F8143D3B4CE58046A65D05E@HAL9005>

800 languages.  What's the national language? And are there still
headhunters in the interior? Still groups who are isolated and have had
little or no contact with the outside world? 


Rocky Smolin
Beach Access Software
858-259-4334
www.e-z-mrp.com
www.bchacc.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 7:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design

There's a fairly high proportion of Phillipino and Indian/Sri Lankan expats
as well as a lot of aussies, kiwis and brits.  

The most racist group would be the nationals, but it's not them against the 
expats, it's tribal/regional.    My missus is local - Southern Region
Coastal and 
she really doesn't like Highlanders :-)

The country was very heavily influenced by missionaries over the last 100
years, so churches are very strong - and in most of the country are the only
ones providing decent health and education services.  

There's a small Islamic community, mainly ex-pat but a few converted
nationals, there is aboslutely NO fundamentalism. 

Although everyone will tell you they are Christian, and a lot will go to
church every Sunday, there is an almost universal  belief in socrcery,
spirits, animism 
etc.   Religion is fairly new, the culture is thousands of years old - quite
a few 
people are still killed every year in villages, especially in the Highlands,
after being accused of sorcery.

It's a really fascinating country to study - over 800 languages and numerous
totally different cultures - the Highlands and coastal regions where settled
at different times by totally different people - highlands languages are
totally different from coastal/island languages.  The Highlanders are more
like Australian aboriginals, the coastal/islands are  more like polynesians.

-- 
Stuart  

On 21 Nov 2008 at 17:31, Rocky Smolin at Beach Accesand many different


--
Stuart

> Dang!  Sounds nice. Oh, forgot to ask - race relations (most of the whites
> are going to be ex-pats. Yes?) and religion, everything peaceable? It
would
> seem with almost 100% Christian.  In wiki
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Papua_New_Guinea no mention of
> Islam. So no Moslems?  Animism?
> 
> P.S.  I'll be 60 myself next month if everything goes according to plan.
> Late starter.  Kids are 12 and 18.
> 
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.e-z-mrp.com
> www.bchacc.com
>  
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 5:19 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
> 
> Raised a family here in the late 80's - they're now grown up. 
> Not sure where that wife is now :-)
> 
> My current partner is PNGean and we have a six year old daughter (and I'll
> be 60 in 3 montsh time <g>)
> 
> The picture is the downtown area of Port Moresby - the rest of the country
> is very different!
> 
> There are good international schools in Port Moresby - they use an
> Australian curriculum and the students generally do *very* well in the
> Australian examinations!
> 
> Public healthcare is very primitve , but the private medical practitioners
> in Port Moresby are fairly good.
> 
> Government is fairly stable, but also fairly corrupt.  The economy went
> through a bad patch but is looking good - huge LNG prospects dveloping
over
> the next few years will quadruple the countries GDP - business confidence
is
> high and there is a lot of development going on.
> 
> We're actually better off at the moment that the rest of the world - PNG
was
> not really exposed to the financial crisis and is a major exporter - even
> with the drop in commodity prices it's on track for budget surpluses even
> after failry large  infrastructure/development spending next year.
> 
> Law and Order is a bit of a problem - a lot of unemployment and crime in
the
> urban centres, but it's not as bad as the Australian media tries to make
it
> seem.
> 
> The big plus is the lifestyle:
> 
> Great social life, great climate and a lot of freedom to do your own
thing.
>  
> No speed cameras or breath testing - get stopped at a road block on your
way
> home after a night drinking at a club and the cop will probably as drunk
as
> you are <g> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Stuart
> 
> 
>   On 21 Nov 2008 at 16:58, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote:
> 
> > Interesting.  Further nosiness (and Mr Moderator - it IS OT Friday) -
are
> > you married and/or have kids?  Can you raise a family there?   It looks
> > pretty moderne from the picture on the web site.  Decent infrastructure?
> > Healthcare? Stable government/economy/society?  
> > 
> > 
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > 858-259-4334
> > www.e-z-mrp.com
> > www.bchacc.com
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
> McLachlan
> > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:49 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
> > 
> > It needs to load fast, a lot of potential clients in PNG are on dial up.
> > 
> > 
> > Since you ask:
> > I came to PNG in 1986, on a three year contract, to set up training and
> > testing systems with the PNG Police College.  They were looking for
people
> > with disciplined forces and training backgrounds and I had  12 years as
an
> > infantry officer in the New  Zealand Army including several postings as
an
> > instructor in various areas.  
> > 
> > I'd been into computer since about 1980, both as a hobbyist and at work
> and
> > ended up developing student records and exam marking systems in Dataflex
> > (running on C/CPM on serial networked ICL Quattros - ah, those were the
> > days<g>)
> >   
> > Found that I liked the lifestyle here so I stayed.   Started developing
> all
> > sorts of Information 
> > Systems on the side for various people and ended up in 1993 going
> > independent full time, using Dataflex mainly, but about then I
discovered
> MS
> > Access 1.1 and I've never looked back. ( although we only put the last
> > Dataflex system that I was involved with to sleep at the beginning of
this
> > year!).
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Stuart
> > 
> > On 21 Nov 2008 at 15:49, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access  wrote:
> > 
> > > Lovely.  Loads fast. I like that.  
> > > 
> > > OK, I gotta ask - how'd you end up in PNG?  Or did you start there? 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Rocky Smolin
> > > Beach Access Software
> > > 858-259-4334
> > > www.e-z-mrp.com
> > > www.bchacc.com
> > >  
> > >  
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart 
> > > McLachlan
> > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 3:44 PM
> > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
> > > 
> > > I've just updated my site at http://www.lexacorp.com.pg over the last 
> > > few days.
> > > 
> > > I built it using frames <bleuch> about 6 or 7 years ago and it was 
> > > looking very tired and old fashioned.
> > > 
> > > The new version uses Server Side Includes for a consistent layout
> > > 
> > > That way I just need a line
> > > <!--#include virtual="header.html" --> in each page rather than 
> > > repeating all the background, header image, menu code etc.
> > > I do the same for the footer. 
> > > 
> > > Incidentally, the menu is a straight lift from <quote>
> > > /***********************************************
> > > * CSS Horizontal List Menu- by JavaScript Kit (www.javascriptkit.com)
> > > * Menu interface credits:
> > > http://www.dynamicdrive.com/style/csslibrary/item/glossy-vertical-
> > > menu/
> > > * This notice must stay intact for usage
> > > * Visit JavaScript Kit at http://www.javascriptkit.com/ for this 
> > > script and 100s more ***********************************************/
> > > </quote>
> > > 
> > > Feel free  to steal any ideas you need for content.
> > > Rocky's site, build by  Karen Rosenstiel,  may give you a few ideas
too.
> > > 
> > > Actually, I've never found a WYSIWYG site designer that I like - I've 
> > > ended up doing it hand with a text editor which understands HTML 
> > > syntax.  (I swap between Crimson Editor and
> > > NoteTab)
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Stuart
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 21 Nov 2008 at 9:28, Tony Septav wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hey All
> > > > After much research, I finally settled on looking at the trial 
> > > > version of WebEasy7.  I had to start somewhere, the more I 
> > > > researched the topic the more confusing it got, with all the pros 
> > > > and cons to different approaches. As I mentioned at the moment all I

> > > > am concerned about  is getting a web page up and running, fancy will
> > come later.
> > > > Thought this would give you all a laugh (talk about naive). The part

> > > > I am finding most difficult, is filling in 4 pages of information - 
> > > > Home, Products, About Us and Contact us.  I know from a marketing 
> > > > point of view you are supposed to be trying to sell the company, but

> > > > I have always been known as an individual who keeps things short and

> > > > to the point. I figured one page would do it , but looking at other 
> > > > sites I don't think that is a good marketing idea. So I guess I will

> > > > have to "time trip" through my 20 years of developing applications 
> > > > and put together an overview of what I can provide.  Here I thought 
> > > > I could bang this thing together in a couple of days,  but now I see

> > > > it is going to take me 2 or 3 weeks to just initially put it 
> > > > together and come up with a powerful presentation.  My hat is off to

> > > > those of you that have web sites, I now realize the work you put 
> > > > into to getting  them up and
> > > running.
> > > >  
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Nov 22 00:41:45 2008
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:41:45 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
In-Reply-To: <9946BC173F8143D3B4CE58046A65D05E@HAL9005>
References: <4926EFC3.9000308@nanaimo.ark.com>,
	<492803FD.25732.3FB9E84@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<9946BC173F8143D3B4CE58046A65D05E@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <49283649.4097.4C01972@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

OK, last response before the moderators get too annoyed :-)

National Languages:
English, Motu and Tok Pisin

Motu is the language of the Central south coast - the original inhabitants of the Port 
Moresby area It became the trade language of Papua (the Southern part of todays PNG) 
which was colonised by Australia .  It is still the second langauge cental coastal people 
after their local language and is still the primary language for people within about a 50  km 
radius of Port Moresby. 

Tok Pisin or Pidgin  started out as a trading language in New Guinea (the northern part of 
today's PNG) which was colonised by the Germans.  It is the most widely spoken 
language, for most PNGEans it is their second language after their local tribal language, 
it's the third language for those who use Motu as their second language.

English is the language of education and business, but is frequently the third or fourth 
language to most PNGeans.  As soon as you get outside of the main cities, you need Tok 
Pisin to communicate with the locals and even in Port Moresby, you need it to talk to the 
majority of low income workers and settlement dwellers, especially the older ones and it is 
the most common language used between staff in general conversation in governement 
and business offices.    

My wife speaks Motu to her family who were the original inhabitants of Port Moresby, uses 
a different language when talking to her mother's relatives who come from a village about 
100km north of Port Moresby, uses Pidgin most of the time when shopping etc and uses 
English when talking to her educated friends who come from other parts of the country.

My six year old daughter is fluent in English, Motu and Pidgin.

More than half of the discussion in Parliament takes place in Pidgin.

No headhunting any more, but there are older people in some parts of the country who can 
still tell you what human flesh tastes like :-)

Many highlands areas had no contact with Europeans until shortly before or after the 
second world war.  Some of these are still very remote and still have little or no contact 
with the outside world.   The Hagahai tribe were only "discovered" in the early 80's  (see 
http://coombs.anu.edu.au/SpecialProj/PNG/htmls/AP.html for an interesting story)

-- 
Stuart


On 21 Nov 2008 at 20:02, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access  wrote:

> 800 languages.  What's the national language? And are there still
> headhunters in the interior? Still groups who are isolated and have had
> little or no contact with the outside world? 
> 
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.e-z-mrp.com
> www.bchacc.com
>  
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 7:07 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
> 
> There's a fairly high proportion of Phillipino and Indian/Sri Lankan expats
> as well as a lot of aussies, kiwis and brits.  
> 
> The most racist group would be the nationals, but it's not them against the 
> expats, it's tribal/regional.    My missus is local - Southern Region
> Coastal and 
> she really doesn't like Highlanders :-)
> 
> The country was very heavily influenced by missionaries over the last 100
> years, so churches are very strong - and in most of the country are the only
> ones providing decent health and education services.  
> 
> There's a small Islamic community, mainly ex-pat but a few converted
> nationals, there is aboslutely NO fundamentalism. 
> 
> Although everyone will tell you they are Christian, and a lot will go to
> church every Sunday, there is an almost universal  belief in socrcery,
> spirits, animism 
> etc.   Religion is fairly new, the culture is thousands of years old - quite
> a few 
> people are still killed every year in villages, especially in the Highlands,
> after being accused of sorcery.
> 
> It's a really fascinating country to study - over 800 languages and numerous
> totally different cultures - the Highlands and coastal regions where settled
> at different times by totally different people - highlands languages are
> totally different from coastal/island languages.  The Highlanders are more
> like Australian aboriginals, the coastal/islands are  more like polynesians.
> 
> -- 
> Stuart  
> 
> On 21 Nov 2008 at 17:31, Rocky Smolin at Beach Accesand many different
> 
> 
> --
> Stuart
> 
> > Dang!  Sounds nice. Oh, forgot to ask - race relations (most of the whites
> > are going to be ex-pats. Yes?) and religion, everything peaceable? It
> would
> > seem with almost 100% Christian.  In wiki
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Papua_New_Guinea no mention of
> > Islam. So no Moslems?  Animism?
> > 
> > P.S.  I'll be 60 myself next month if everything goes according to plan.
> > Late starter.  Kids are 12 and 18.
> > 
> > 
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > 858-259-4334
> > www.e-z-mrp.com
> > www.bchacc.com
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
> McLachlan
> > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 5:19 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
> > 
> > Raised a family here in the late 80's - they're now grown up. 
> > Not sure where that wife is now :-)
> > 
> > My current partner is PNGean and we have a six year old daughter (and I'll
> > be 60 in 3 montsh time <g>)
> > 
> > The picture is the downtown area of Port Moresby - the rest of the country
> > is very different!
> > 
> > There are good international schools in Port Moresby - they use an
> > Australian curriculum and the students generally do *very* well in the
> > Australian examinations!
> > 
> > Public healthcare is very primitve , but the private medical practitioners
> > in Port Moresby are fairly good.
> > 
> > Government is fairly stable, but also fairly corrupt.  The economy went
> > through a bad patch but is looking good - huge LNG prospects dveloping
> over
> > the next few years will quadruple the countries GDP - business confidence
> is
> > high and there is a lot of development going on.
> > 
> > We're actually better off at the moment that the rest of the world - PNG
> was
> > not really exposed to the financial crisis and is a major exporter - even
> > with the drop in commodity prices it's on track for budget surpluses even
> > after failry large  infrastructure/development spending next year.
> > 
> > Law and Order is a bit of a problem - a lot of unemployment and crime in
> the
> > urban centres, but it's not as bad as the Australian media tries to make
> it
> > seem.
> > 
> > The big plus is the lifestyle:
> > 
> > Great social life, great climate and a lot of freedom to do your own
> thing.
> >  
> > No speed cameras or breath testing - get stopped at a road block on your
> way
> > home after a night drinking at a club and the cop will probably as drunk
> as
> > you are <g> 
> > 
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Stuart
> > 
> > 
> >   On 21 Nov 2008 at 16:58, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote:
> > 
> > > Interesting.  Further nosiness (and Mr Moderator - it IS OT Friday) -
> are
> > > you married and/or have kids?  Can you raise a family there?   It looks
> > > pretty moderne from the picture on the web site.  Decent infrastructure?
> > > Healthcare? Stable government/economy/society?  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Rocky Smolin
> > > Beach Access Software
> > > 858-259-4334
> > > www.e-z-mrp.com
> > > www.bchacc.com
> > >  
> > >  
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
> > McLachlan
> > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:49 PM
> > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
> > > 
> > > It needs to load fast, a lot of potential clients in PNG are on dial up.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Since you ask:
> > > I came to PNG in 1986, on a three year contract, to set up training and
> > > testing systems with the PNG Police College.  They were looking for
> people
> > > with disciplined forces and training backgrounds and I had  12 years as
> an
> > > infantry officer in the New  Zealand Army including several postings as
> an
> > > instructor in various areas.  
> > > 
> > > I'd been into computer since about 1980, both as a hobbyist and at work
> > and
> > > ended up developing student records and exam marking systems in Dataflex
> > > (running on C/CPM on serial networked ICL Quattros - ah, those were the
> > > days<g>)
> > >   
> > > Found that I liked the lifestyle here so I stayed.   Started developing
> > all
> > > sorts of Information 
> > > Systems on the side for various people and ended up in 1993 going
> > > independent full time, using Dataflex mainly, but about then I
> discovered
> > MS
> > > Access 1.1 and I've never looked back. ( although we only put the last
> > > Dataflex system that I was involved with to sleep at the beginning of
> this
> > > year!).
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Stuart
> > > 
> > > On 21 Nov 2008 at 15:49, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Lovely.  Loads fast. I like that.  
> > > > 
> > > > OK, I gotta ask - how'd you end up in PNG?  Or did you start there? 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Rocky Smolin
> > > > Beach Access Software
> > > > 858-259-4334
> > > > www.e-z-mrp.com
> > > > www.bchacc.com
> > > >  
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart 
> > > > McLachlan
> > > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 3:44 PM
> > > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
> > > > 
> > > > I've just updated my site at http://www.lexacorp.com.pg over the last 
> > > > few days.
> > > > 
> > > > I built it using frames <bleuch> about 6 or 7 years ago and it was 
> > > > looking very tired and old fashioned.
> > > > 
> > > > The new version uses Server Side Includes for a consistent layout
> > > > 
> > > > That way I just need a line
> > > > <!--#include virtual="header.html" --> in each page rather than 
> > > > repeating all the background, header image, menu code etc.
> > > > I do the same for the footer. 
> > > > 
> > > > Incidentally, the menu is a straight lift from <quote>
> > > > /***********************************************
> > > > * CSS Horizontal List Menu- by JavaScript Kit (www.javascriptkit.com)
> > > > * Menu interface credits:
> > > > http://www.dynamicdrive.com/style/csslibrary/item/glossy-vertical-
> > > > menu/
> > > > * This notice must stay intact for usage
> > > > * Visit JavaScript Kit at http://www.javascriptkit.com/ for this 
> > > > script and 100s more ***********************************************/
> > > > </quote>
> > > > 
> > > > Feel free  to steal any ideas you need for content.
> > > > Rocky's site, build by  Karen Rosenstiel,  may give you a few ideas
> too.
> > > > 
> > > > Actually, I've never found a WYSIWYG site designer that I like - I've 
> > > > ended up doing it hand with a text editor which understands HTML 
> > > > syntax.  (I swap between Crimson Editor and
> > > > NoteTab)
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > Stuart
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On 21 Nov 2008 at 9:28, Tony Septav wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Hey All
> > > > > After much research, I finally settled on looking at the trial 
> > > > > version of WebEasy7.  I had to start somewhere, the more I 
> > > > > researched the topic the more confusing it got, with all the pros 
> > > > > and cons to different approaches. As I mentioned at the moment all I
> 
> > > > > am concerned about  is getting a web page up and running, fancy will
> > > come later.
> > > > > Thought this would give you all a laugh (talk about naive). The part
> 
> > > > > I am finding most difficult, is filling in 4 pages of information - 
> > > > > Home, Products, About Us and Contact us.  I know from a marketing 
> > > > > point of view you are supposed to be trying to sell the company, but
> 
> > > > > I have always been known as an individual who keeps things short and
> 
> > > > > to the point. I figured one page would do it , but looking at other 
> > > > > sites I don't think that is a good marketing idea. So I guess I will
> 
> > > > > have to "time trip" through my 20 years of developing applications 
> > > > > and put together an overview of what I can provide.  Here I thought 
> > > > > I could bang this thing together in a couple of days,  but now I see
> 
> > > > > it is going to take me 2 or 3 weeks to just initially put it 
> > > > > together and come up with a powerful presentation.  My hat is off to
> 
> > > > > those of you that have web sites, I now realize the work you put 
> > > > > into to getting  them up and
> > > > running.
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From iggy at nanaimo.ark.com  Sat Nov 22 08:01:56 2008
From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com (Tony Septav)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 06:01:56 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
In-Reply-To: <200811211732.mALHWA34005511@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200811211732.mALHWA34005511@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <492810D4.8010203@nanaimo.ark.com>

Hey Karen
Not what I would call the easy part.  Doesn't matter how good the 
content is, if the design is not visually appealing the site "sucks".

Tony Septav
Nanaimo, BC
Canada

Karen Rosenstiel wrote:

>Yup! I do the easy part -- the design. 
>
>
>Regards,
> 
>Karen Rosenstiel
>Seattle WA USA
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav
>Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 9:29 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
>
>Hey All
>After much research, I finally settled on looking at the trial version of
>WebEasy7.  I had to start somewhere, the more I researched the topic the
>more confusing it got, with all the pros and cons to different approaches.
>As I mentioned at the moment all I am concerned about  is getting a web page
>up and running, fancy will come later.
>Thought this would give you all a laugh (talk about naive). The part I am
>finding most difficult, is filling in 4 pages of information - Home,
>Products, About Us and Contact us.  I know from a marketing point of view
>you are supposed to be trying to sell the company, but I have always been
>known as an individual who keeps things short and to the point. I figured
>one page would do it , but looking at other sites I don't think that is a
>good marketing idea. So I guess I will have to "time trip" through my 20
>years of developing applications and put together an overview of what I can
>provide.  Here I thought I could bang this thing together in a couple of
>days,  but now I see it is going to take me 2 or 3 weeks to just initially
>put it together and come up with a powerful presentation.  My hat is off to
>those of you that have web sites, I now realize the work you put into to
>getting  them up and running.
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From iggy at nanaimo.ark.com  Sat Nov 22 08:08:48 2008
From: iggy at nanaimo.ark.com (Tony Septav)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 06:08:48 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
In-Reply-To: <4927D458.20197.34181C2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <4926EFC3.9000308@nanaimo.ark.com>
	<4927D458.20197.34181C2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <49281270.9000208@nanaimo.ark.com>

Hey Stuart
You made me laugh, as yours was one of the first sites I looked at, and 
decided then that I had better go for more than 1 page on my site.  I 
know some will be saying "What a newbie twit, 1 Page for a web 
site!!!",  but I wanted to keep it short and sweet, I know better now.

Stuart McLachlan wrote:

>I've just updated my site at http://www.lexacorp.com.pg over the last few days.
>
>I built it using frames <bleuch> about 6 or 7 years ago and 
>it was looking very tired and old fashioned.
>
>The new version uses Server Side Includes for a consistent layout
>
>That way I just need a line
><!--#include virtual="header.html" -->
>in each page rather than repeating all the background, header image, menu code etc.
>I do the same for the footer. 
>
>Incidentally, the menu is a straight lift from 
><quote>
>/***********************************************
>* CSS Horizontal List Menu- by JavaScript Kit (www.javascriptkit.com)
>* Menu interface credits: http://www.dynamicdrive.com/style/csslibrary/item/glossy-vertical-
>menu/ 
>* This notice must stay intact for usage
>* Visit JavaScript Kit at http://www.javascriptkit.com/ for this script and 100s more
>***********************************************/
></quote>
>
>Feel free  to steal any ideas you need for content.
>Rocky's site, build by  Karen Rosenstiel,  may give you a few ideas too.
>
>Actually, I've never found a WYSIWYG site designer that I like - I've ended up doing it hand 
>with a text editor which understands HTML syntax.  (I swap between Crimson Editor and 
>NoteTab)  
>
>  
>



From carbonnb at gmail.com  Sat Nov 22 08:19:09 2008
From: carbonnb at gmail.com (Bryan Carbonnell)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:19:09 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Cottage renting web sites samples
In-Reply-To: <515D1F70109045DB912DD04E3D396141@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <000201c9494a$2c21ccf0$6401a8c0@nant>
	<e04a6c920811200607i1f4d626cob596548f156e3dea@mail.gmail.com>
	<515D1F70109045DB912DD04E3D396141@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <e04a6c920811220619w5de12714lfb98439c169cf9af@mail.gmail.com>

Its a  beautiful property that's for sure.

The website's not to bad either :)

Bryan

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> Bryan: Looks nice... Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 6:07 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Cottage renting web sites samples
>
> Have a look at http://www.harmerscottages.com/
>
> It's my ex-in-laws website for their cottages.
>
> Bryan
>
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:52 AM, Shamil Salakhetdinov
> <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I'm looking for samples of cottages renting web sites - relatively small,
>> user-friendly, and functional, looking attractive and tempting to rent
>> advertised cottage(s) immediately, and run, ride, drive, fly there for
>> vacations - something like this one:
>>
>> http://www.hookipabayview.com/index.html
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Any samples would be very helpful here and would be very much appreciated.
>>
>> The above site looks good but the one, which I'm looking for should have
>> pages fitting 1024x768 or even 800x600 screen resolutions still having all
>> the attributes listed above: relatively small, user-friendly,
> functional,...
>>
>> Looking for some ideas for a probable cottage renting small web site
>> project...
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> --
>> Shamil
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From pedro at plex.nl  Sun Nov 23 04:28:44 2008
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 11:28:44 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] query help
Message-ID: <000b01c94d56$431fe620$410aa8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Dear Group,

can you help me with a query?


I have:
 
Date                    ax               ay               spec             mm            vv             egg              Larf

01-01-01              123             123              A                  1                                             

01-01-01              123             123              A                                   3                             

01-01-01              123             123              A                                                  45            

01-01-01              345             345              A                  1                                             

02-02-02              678             678              B                                                  12            

02-02-02              678             678              B                                                                      4

 

 

i want

 

Date                    ax               ay               spec             mm            vv             egg              Larf

01-01-01              123             123              A                  1                3              45            

01-01-01              345             345              A                  1                                             

02-02-02              678             678              B                                                    12               4







How can i do this in a single query?



Thanks



Pedro

 


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Nov 23 05:41:09 2008
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:41:09 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] query help
In-Reply-To: <000b01c94d56$431fe620$410aa8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
References: <000b01c94d56$431fe620$410aa8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <4929CDF5.17028.AF891D1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

You need something like:
Select Distinct [Date],ax,ay,spec,First(mm),First(vv),First(egg),First(Larf) 
>From tblMyTable
Group By [Date],ax,ay,spec
Order by [Date],ax,ay,spec

You may want to replace First() with Sum(),Min() or Max() depending on exactly h what you 
actual data is and what results you want  

On 23 Nov 2008 at 11:28, Pedro Janssen wrote:

> Dear Group,
> 
> can you help me with a query?
> 
> 
> I have:
>  
> Date                    ax               ay               spec             mm            vv             egg              Larf
> 
> 01-01-01              123             123              A                  1                                             
> 
> 01-01-01              123             123              A                                   3                             
> 
> 01-01-01              123             123              A                                                  45            
> 
> 01-01-01              345             345              A                  1                                             
> 
> 02-02-02              678             678              B                                                  12            
> 
> 02-02-02              678             678              B                                                                      4
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> i want
> 
>  
> 
> Date                    ax               ay               spec             mm            vv             egg              Larf
> 
> 01-01-01              123             123              A                  1                3              45            
> 
> 01-01-01              345             345              A                  1                                             
> 
> 02-02-02              678             678              B                                                    12               4
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> How can i do this in a single query?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> Pedro
> 
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From djkr at msn.com  Sun Nov 23 05:45:51 2008
From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 11:45:51 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] query help
In-Reply-To: <000b01c94d56$431fe620$410aa8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <BLU103-DAV1372668B97AA18DBD92E29D2090@phx.gbl>

Pedro

SELECT Table1.Date, Table1.ax, Table1.ay, Table1.spec, Sum(Table1.mm) AS
SumOfmm, Sum(Table1.vv) AS SumOfvv, Sum(Table1.egg) AS SumOfegg,
Sum(Table1.Larf) AS SumOfLarf
FROM Table1
GROUP BY Table1.Date, Table1.ax, Table1.ay, Table1.spec;

This will give you the answer you ask for.  I cannot tell, though, whether
it is a solution to your underlying problem, since you don't say what that
is.

I didn't write the SQL, just got Access to generate it from the QBE grid,
which you can easily recover.

HTH
John


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: 23 November 2008 10:29
To: AccessD
Subject: [AccessD] query help


Dear Group,

can you help me with a query?


I have:
 
Date                    ax               ay               spec
mm            vv             egg              Larf

01-01-01              123             123              A                  1


01-01-01              123             123              A
3                             

01-01-01              123             123              A
45            

01-01-01              345             345              A                  1


02-02-02              678             678              B
12            

02-02-02              678             678              B
4

 

 

i want

 

Date                    ax               ay               spec
mm            vv             egg              Larf

01-01-01              123             123              A                  1
3              45            

01-01-01              345             345              A                  1


02-02-02              678             678              B
12               4







How can i do this in a single query?



Thanks



Pedro

 
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From djkr at msn.com  Sun Nov 23 06:00:28 2008
From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 12:00:28 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] query help
In-Reply-To: <4929CDF5.17028.AF891D1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <BLU103-DAV56E1415318D5D53B2F715D2090@phx.gbl>

Fine, Stuart, except for using First (which will often give Null).  Sum, Min
or Max are equally OK for Pedro's example, though maybe not for his real
problem - we can't tell!  :-)

John


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: 23 November 2008 11:41
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] query help


You need something like:
Select Distinct [Date],ax,ay,spec,First(mm),First(vv),First(egg),First(Larf)

>From tblMyTable
Group By [Date],ax,ay,spec
Order by [Date],ax,ay,spec

You may want to replace First() with Sum(),Min() or Max() depending on
exactly h what you 
actual data is and what results you want  

On 23 Nov 2008 at 11:28, Pedro Janssen wrote:

> Dear Group,
> 
> can you help me with a query?
> 
> 
> I have:
>  
> Date                    ax               ay               spec
mm            vv             egg              Larf
> 
> 01-01-01              123             123              A
1                                             
> 
> 01-01-01              123             123              A
3                             
> 
> 01-01-01              123             123              A
45            
> 
> 01-01-01              345             345              A
1                                             
> 
> 02-02-02              678             678              B
12            
> 
> 02-02-02              678             678              B
4
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> i want
> 
>  
> 
> Date                    ax               ay               spec
mm            vv             egg              Larf
> 
> 01-01-01              123             123              A
1                3              45            
> 
> 01-01-01              345             345              A
1                                             
> 
> 02-02-02              678             678              B
12               4
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> How can i do this in a single query?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> Pedro
> 
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From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru  Sun Nov 23 06:57:52 2008
From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 15:57:52 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Cottage renting web sites samples
In-Reply-To: <e04a6c920811220619w5de12714lfb98439c169cf9af@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c94d6b$1a005a80$6501a8c0@nant>

Hi All,

Thank you for all who replied on my post - here is one of the subject sites,
which look attractive:

http://www.villa-bonaire.eu/documents/villa.xml?lang=en

As far as I can see this site uses WebAlive CMS and WebAlive hosting
services: did anybody try to use WebAlive CMS and services? 

Thank you.

--
Shamil

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 5:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Cottage renting web sites samples

Its a  beautiful property that's for sure.

The website's not to bad either :)

Bryan

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> Bryan: Looks nice... Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Carbonnell
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 6:07 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Cottage renting web sites samples
>
> Have a look at http://www.harmerscottages.com/
>
> It's my ex-in-laws website for their cottages.
>
> Bryan
>
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:52 AM, Shamil Salakhetdinov
> <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I'm looking for samples of cottages renting web sites - relatively small,
>> user-friendly, and functional, looking attractive and tempting to rent
>> advertised cottage(s) immediately, and run, ride, drive, fly there for
>> vacations - something like this one:
>>
>> http://www.hookipabayview.com/index.html
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Any samples would be very helpful here and would be very much
appreciated.
>>
>> The above site looks good but the one, which I'm looking for should have
>> pages fitting 1024x768 or even 800x600 screen resolutions still having
all
>> the attributes listed above: relatively small, user-friendly,
> functional,...
>>
>> Looking for some ideas for a probable cottage renting small web site
>> project...
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> --
>> Shamil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>
>
>
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> preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out,
> shouting "What a great ride!"
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From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru  Sun Nov 23 06:57:52 2008
From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 15:57:52 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Dynamic GoogleMaps pinned location on html pages -
	how to
Message-ID: <001001c94d6b$1b470b50$6501a8c0@nant>

Hi All,

I'm trying to find information how to get placed on my web page(s) a pinned
location from dynamic GoogleMaps - as this test one:

http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/test/TestGoogle.txt.html

which has this src link:

src="http://maps.google.ru/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&amp;hl=ru&amp;s=AARTsJokgBf8bongi
1OchWGwlaTMZzXqzA&amp;msa=0&amp;msid=113349423880744472763.000454cb5e67778af
29cb&amp;ll=59.907749,30.483027&amp;spn=0.015062,0.036478&amp;z=14&amp;outpu
t=embed"

which I "borrowed" for testing purposed from one of the site.

I can't find information what in the above src link are the following
attributes:

msid = ?
s = ?
spn = ?
z = ?

What are the other attributes is clear.

I guess the needed information should be somewhere in GoogleMaps API docs
but I can't find it.

msid = ? and s = ? seems to be some IDs/codes are these freely available
from google as e.g. Google Search API and GoogleMAPs API keys?

Thank you.

--
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From djkr at msn.com  Sun Nov 23 06:58:00 2008
From: djkr at msn.com (DJK(John) Robinson)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 12:58:00 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access Programmers in Derby UK
In-Reply-To: <491dcb91.0ec5100a.3516.ffffba40@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <BLU103-DAV1265EEBC433B9C61BF6AC8D2090@phx.gbl>

Hi Max

I'm usually so way behind in my reading of this list that I rarely get to
make a contribution of any sort - useful or otherwise.  As in this case!

You're probably fixed up by now - but just in case you're not, or undecided,
I'm in the  corner of Cheshire nearest to Derby: about an hour away.  Drop
me a line off-list if you're interested.  I'm fairly busy over the next few
weeks, but this is a seasonal affliction with music...

John

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: 14 November 2008 19:04
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Access Programmers in Derby UK


Hi All,
Are there any Access Programmers in or around Derby UK looking to provide
some (paid) support work on a regular on-going basis? Thanks Max


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From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru  Sun Nov 23 07:59:20 2008
From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:59:20 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Dynamic GoogleMaps pinned location on html pages
	- how to
Message-ID: <000001c94d73$b02ee190$6501a8c0@nant>



Hi All,

I have got how to get subject link - "My Maps" in one's Google account can
be used to create such a link and get its html - the following link is now
what I wanted to have as a test:

http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/test/TestGoogle.txt.html

Thank you.

--
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-----Original Message-----
From: Shamil Salakhetdinov [mailto:Shamil AT smsconsulting.spb.ru] 
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 3:58 PM
To: 'Access-D'
Subject: OT: Dynamic GoogleMaps pinned location on html pages - how to

Hi All,

I'm trying to find information how to get placed on my web page(s) a pinned
location from dynamic GoogleMaps - as this test one:

http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/test/TestGoogle.txt.html

which has this src link:

src="http://maps.google.ru/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&amp;hl=ru&amp;s=AARTsJokgBf8bongi
1OchWGwlaTMZzXqzA&amp;msa=0&amp;msid=113349423880744472763.000454cb5e67778af
29cb&amp;ll=59.907749,30.483027&amp;spn=0.015062,0.036478&amp;z=14&amp;outpu
t=embed"

which I "borrowed" for testing purposed from one of the site.

I can't find information what in the above src link are the following
attributes:

msid = ?
s = ?
spn = ?
z = ?

What are the other attributes is clear.

I guess the needed information should be somewhere in GoogleMaps API docs
but I can't find it.

msid = ? and s = ? seems to be some IDs/codes are these freely available
from google as e.g. Google Search API and GoogleMAPs API keys?

Thank you.

--
Shamil



From pedro at plex.nl  Sun Nov 23 08:17:23 2008
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 15:17:23 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] query help
References: <BLU103-DAV56E1415318D5D53B2F715D2090@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <004401c94d76$34834e70$410aa8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hi John en Daren,

Thanks for your help, it works perfect
But when i see it back, i can't figure out why my mind blocked and i could't 
get it together myself.

I was trying to do it with an select distinct, but it didn't work.
The actual data are large query's, with may joins.
But your help give me the base for dealing the problem.

Best Wishes

Pedro



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "DJK(John) Robinson" <djkr at msn.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] query help


> Fine, Stuart, except for using First (which will often give Null).  Sum, 
> Min
> or Max are equally OK for Pedro's example, though maybe not for his real
> problem - we can't tell!  :-)
>
> John
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart 
> McLachlan
> Sent: 23 November 2008 11:41
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] query help
>
>
> You need something like:
> Select Distinct 
> [Date],ax,ay,spec,First(mm),First(vv),First(egg),First(Larf)
>
>>From tblMyTable
> Group By [Date],ax,ay,spec
> Order by [Date],ax,ay,spec
>
> You may want to replace First() with Sum(),Min() or Max() depending on
> exactly h what you
> actual data is and what results you want
>
> On 23 Nov 2008 at 11:28, Pedro Janssen wrote:
>
>> Dear Group,
>>
>> can you help me with a query?
>>
>>
>> I have:
>>
>> Date                    ax               ay               spec
> mm            vv             egg              Larf
>>
>> 01-01-01              123             123              A
> 1
>>
>> 01-01-01              123             123              A
> 3
>>
>> 01-01-01              123             123              A
> 45
>>
>> 01-01-01              345             345              A
> 1
>>
>> 02-02-02              678             678              B
> 12
>>
>> 02-02-02              678             678              B
> 4
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> i want
>>
>>
>>
>> Date                    ax               ay               spec
> mm            vv             egg              Larf
>>
>> 01-01-01              123             123              A
> 1                3              45
>>
>> 01-01-01              345             345              A
> 1
>>
>> 02-02-02              678             678              B
> 12               4
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> How can i do this in a single query?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Pedro
>>
>>
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From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Sun Nov 23 10:24:57 2008
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:24:57 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access Programmers in Derby UK
In-Reply-To: <BLU103-DAV1265EEBC433B9C61BF6AC8D2090@phx.gbl>
References: <491dcb91.0ec5100a.3516.ffffba40@mx.google.com>
	<BLU103-DAV1265EEBC433B9C61BF6AC8D2090@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <492983d4.0856100a.20ce.5043@mx.google.com>

John,
You haven't given a email address??
I am max.wanadoo AT gmail.com
Thanks
Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DJK(John)
Robinson
Sent: 23 November 2008 12:58
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Programmers in Derby UK

Hi Max

I'm usually so way behind in my reading of this list that I rarely get to
make a contribution of any sort - useful or otherwise.  As in this case!

You're probably fixed up by now - but just in case you're not, or undecided,
I'm in the  corner of Cheshire nearest to Derby: about an hour away.  Drop
me a line off-list if you're interested.  I'm fairly busy over the next few
weeks, but this is a seasonal affliction with music...

John

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: 14 November 2008 19:04
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Access Programmers in Derby UK


Hi All,
Are there any Access Programmers in or around Derby UK looking to provide
some (paid) support work on a regular on-going basis? Thanks Max


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Nov 23 13:47:48 2008
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 11:47:48 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
In-Reply-To: <4927D458.20197.34181C2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <4926EFC3.9000308@nanaimo.ark.com>
	<4927D458.20197.34181C2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <EB2BEC212B5F438C8B1706FBBBEA1F3D@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi Stuart:

Looks great and it is a lot faster. 

The graphics of course could be upgraded (Not the harbour picture which is
perfect) That streaky line background could be replaced with some great
tonal effects... just ask Karen. ;-)

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 3:44 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design

I've just updated my site at http://www.lexacorp.com.pg over the last few
days.

I built it using frames <bleuch> about 6 or 7 years ago and 
it was looking very tired and old fashioned.

The new version uses Server Side Includes for a consistent layout

That way I just need a line
<!--#include virtual="header.html" -->
in each page rather than repeating all the background, header image, menu
code etc.
I do the same for the footer. 

Incidentally, the menu is a straight lift from 
<quote>
/***********************************************
* CSS Horizontal List Menu- by JavaScript Kit (www.javascriptkit.com)
* Menu interface credits:
http://www.dynamicdrive.com/style/csslibrary/item/glossy-vertical-
menu/ 
* This notice must stay intact for usage
* Visit JavaScript Kit at http://www.javascriptkit.com/ for this script and
100s more
***********************************************/
</quote>

Feel free  to steal any ideas you need for content.
Rocky's site, build by  Karen Rosenstiel,  may give you a few ideas too.

Actually, I've never found a WYSIWYG site designer that I like - I've ended
up doing it hand 
with a text editor which understands HTML syntax.  (I swap between Crimson
Editor and 
NoteTab)  

-- 
Stuart


On 21 Nov 2008 at 9:28, Tony Septav wrote:

> Hey All
> After much research, I finally settled on looking at the trial version 
> of WebEasy7.  I had to start somewhere, the more I researched the topic 
> the more confusing it got, with all the pros and cons to different 
> approaches. As I mentioned at the moment all I am concerned about  is 
> getting a web page up and running, fancy will come later.
> Thought this would give you all a laugh (talk about naive). The part I 
> am finding most difficult, is filling in 4 pages of information - Home, 
> Products, About Us and Contact us.  I know from a marketing point of 
> view you are supposed to be trying to sell the company, but I have 
> always been known as an individual who keeps things short and to the 
> point. I figured one page would do it , but looking at other sites I 
> don't think that is a good marketing idea. So I guess I will have to 
> "time trip" through my 20 years of developing applications and put 
> together an overview of what I can provide.  Here I thought I could bang 
> this thing together in a couple of days,  but now I see it is going to 
> take me 2 or 3 weeks to just initially put it together and come up with 
> a powerful presentation.  My hat is off to those of you that have web 
> sites, I now realize the work you put into to getting  them up and
running.
>  
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Nov 23 13:52:31 2008
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 11:52:31 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
In-Reply-To: <4927E3B9.2965.37D941F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <4926EFC3.9000308@nanaimo.ark.com>
	<4927D458.20197.34181C2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<BCD3BE5124CA423EB953FF1BB461B21D@HAL9005>
	<4927E3B9.2965.37D941F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <15A0298F2C03432092EBEF720A3CA2B9@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi Stuart:

I do remember Dataflex and CPM (DOS was similar except the slash went the
wrong way) but worked more with Datapoint, CMS and VMS...

So you are not that old. ;-)

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design

It needs to load fast, a lot of potential clients in PNG are on dial up.


Since you ask:
I came to PNG in 1986, on a three year contract, to set up training and
testing systems with 
the PNG Police College.  They were looking for people with disciplined
forces and training 
backgrounds and I had  12 years as an infantry officer in the New  Zealand
Army including 
several postings as an instructor in various areas.  

I'd been into computer since about 1980, both as a hobbyist and at work and
ended up 
developing student records and exam marking systems in Dataflex (running on
C/CPM on 
serial networked ICL Quattros - ah, those were the days<g>)
  
Found that I liked the lifestyle here so I stayed.   Started developing all
sorts of Information 
Systems on the side for various people and ended up in 1993 going
independent full time,  
using Dataflex mainly, but about then I discovered MS Access 1.1 and I've
never looked 
back. ( although we only put the last Dataflex system that I was involved
with to sleep at the 
beginning of this year!).


-- 
Stuart

On 21 Nov 2008 at 15:49, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access  wrote:

> Lovely.  Loads fast. I like that.  
> 
> OK, I gotta ask - how'd you end up in PNG?  Or did you start there? 
> 
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.e-z-mrp.com
> www.bchacc.com
>  
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 3:44 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
> 
> I've just updated my site at http://www.lexacorp.com.pg over the last few
> days.
> 
> I built it using frames <bleuch> about 6 or 7 years ago and it was looking
> very tired and old fashioned.
> 
> The new version uses Server Side Includes for a consistent layout
> 
> That way I just need a line
> <!--#include virtual="header.html" -->
> in each page rather than repeating all the background, header image, menu
> code etc.
> I do the same for the footer. 
> 
> Incidentally, the menu is a straight lift from <quote>
> /***********************************************
> * CSS Horizontal List Menu- by JavaScript Kit (www.javascriptkit.com)
> * Menu interface credits:
> http://www.dynamicdrive.com/style/csslibrary/item/glossy-vertical-
> menu/
> * This notice must stay intact for usage
> * Visit JavaScript Kit at http://www.javascriptkit.com/ for this script
and
> 100s more ***********************************************/
> </quote>
> 
> Feel free  to steal any ideas you need for content.
> Rocky's site, build by  Karen Rosenstiel,  may give you a few ideas too.
> 
> Actually, I've never found a WYSIWYG site designer that I like - I've
ended
> up doing it hand with a text editor which understands HTML syntax.  (I
swap
> between Crimson Editor and
> NoteTab)  
> 
> --
> Stuart
> 
> 
> On 21 Nov 2008 at 9:28, Tony Septav wrote:
> 
> > Hey All
> > After much research, I finally settled on looking at the trial version 
> > of WebEasy7.  I had to start somewhere, the more I researched the topic 
> > the more confusing it got, with all the pros and cons to different 
> > approaches. As I mentioned at the moment all I am concerned about  is 
> > getting a web page up and running, fancy will come later.
> > Thought this would give you all a laugh (talk about naive). The part I 
> > am finding most difficult, is filling in 4 pages of information - Home, 
> > Products, About Us and Contact us.  I know from a marketing point of 
> > view you are supposed to be trying to sell the company, but I have 
> > always been known as an individual who keeps things short and to the 
> > point. I figured one page would do it , but looking at other sites I 
> > don't think that is a good marketing idea. So I guess I will have to 
> > "time trip" through my 20 years of developing applications and put 
> > together an overview of what I can provide.  Here I thought I could bang

> > this thing together in a couple of days,  but now I see it is going to 
> > take me 2 or 3 weeks to just initially put it together and come up with 
> > a powerful presentation.  My hat is off to those of you that have web 
> > sites, I now realize the work you put into to getting  them up and
> running.
> >  
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Nov 23 13:57:05 2008
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 11:57:05 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
In-Reply-To: <492803FD.25732.3FB9E84@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <4926EFC3.9000308@nanaimo.ark.com>
	<4927EA9C.11307.3987B54@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<AC7482B5E43D463F8F48C2AD7274E377@HAL9005>
	<492803FD.25732.3FB9E84@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <992B489A5B734A199295AB6871C36CFA@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi Stuart:

Your area sounds like it is really very nice... A little rough but it is
never as bad as the press makes out.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 7:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design

There's a fairly high proportion of Phillipino and Indian/Sri Lankan expats
as 
well as a lot of aussies, kiwis and brits.  

The most racist group would be the nationals, but it's not them against the 
expats, it's tribal/regional.    My missus is local - Southern Region
Coastal and 
she really doesn't like Highlanders :-)

The country was very heavily influenced by missionaries over the last 100 
years, so churches are very strong - and in most of the country are the only

ones providing decent health and education services.  

There's a small Islamic community, mainly ex-pat but a few converted 
nationals, there is aboslutely NO fundamentalism. 

Although everyone will tell you they are Christian, and a lot will go to
church 
every Sunday, there is an almost universal  belief in socrcery, spirits,
animism 
etc.   Religion is fairly new, the culture is thousands of years old - quite
a few 
people are still killed every year in villages, especially in the Highlands,
after 
being accused of sorcery.

It's a really fascinating country to study - over 800 languages and numerous

totally different cultures - the Highlands and coastal regions where settled
at 
different times by totally different people - highlands languages are
totally 
different from coastal/island languages.  The Highlanders are more like 
Australian aboriginals, the coastal/islands are  more like polynesians.

-- 
Stuart  

On 21 Nov 2008 at 17:31, Rocky Smolin at Beach Accesand many different


--
Stuart

> Dang!  Sounds nice. Oh, forgot to ask - race relations (most of the whites
> are going to be ex-pats. Yes?) and religion, everything peaceable? It
would
> seem with almost 100% Christian.  In wiki
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Papua_New_Guinea no mention of
> Islam. So no Moslems?  Animism?
> 
> P.S.  I'll be 60 myself next month if everything goes according to plan.
> Late starter.  Kids are 12 and 18.
> 
> 
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 858-259-4334
> www.e-z-mrp.com
> www.bchacc.com
>  
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 5:19 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
> 
> Raised a family here in the late 80's - they're now grown up. 
> Not sure where that wife is now :-)
> 
> My current partner is PNGean and we have a six year old daughter (and I'll
> be 60 in 3 montsh time <g>)
> 
> The picture is the downtown area of Port Moresby - the rest of the country
> is very different!
> 
> There are good international schools in Port Moresby - they use an
> Australian curriculum and the students generally do *very* well in the
> Australian examinations!
> 
> Public healthcare is very primitve , but the private medical practitioners
> in Port Moresby are fairly good.
> 
> Government is fairly stable, but also fairly corrupt.  The economy went
> through a bad patch but is looking good - huge LNG prospects dveloping
over
> the next few years will quadruple the countries GDP - business confidence
is
> high and there is a lot of development going on.
> 
> We're actually better off at the moment that the rest of the world - PNG
was
> not really exposed to the financial crisis and is a major exporter - even
> with the drop in commodity prices it's on track for budget surpluses even
> after failry large  infrastructure/development spending next year.
> 
> Law and Order is a bit of a problem - a lot of unemployment and crime in
the
> urban centres, but it's not as bad as the Australian media tries to make
it
> seem.
> 
> The big plus is the lifestyle:
> 
> Great social life, great climate and a lot of freedom to do your own
thing.
>  
> No speed cameras or breath testing - get stopped at a road block on your
way
> home after a night drinking at a club and the cop will probably as drunk
as
> you are <g> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Stuart
> 
> 
>   On 21 Nov 2008 at 16:58, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote:
> 
> > Interesting.  Further nosiness (and Mr Moderator - it IS OT Friday) -
are
> > you married and/or have kids?  Can you raise a family there?   It looks
> > pretty moderne from the picture on the web site.  Decent infrastructure?
> > Healthcare? Stable government/economy/society?  
> > 
> > 
> > Rocky Smolin
> > Beach Access Software
> > 858-259-4334
> > www.e-z-mrp.com
> > www.bchacc.com
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
> McLachlan
> > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 4:49 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
> > 
> > It needs to load fast, a lot of potential clients in PNG are on dial up.
> > 
> > 
> > Since you ask:
> > I came to PNG in 1986, on a three year contract, to set up training and
> > testing systems with the PNG Police College.  They were looking for
people
> > with disciplined forces and training backgrounds and I had  12 years as
an
> > infantry officer in the New  Zealand Army including several postings as
an
> > instructor in various areas.  
> > 
> > I'd been into computer since about 1980, both as a hobbyist and at work
> and
> > ended up developing student records and exam marking systems in Dataflex
> > (running on C/CPM on serial networked ICL Quattros - ah, those were the
> > days<g>)
> >   
> > Found that I liked the lifestyle here so I stayed.   Started developing
> all
> > sorts of Information 
> > Systems on the side for various people and ended up in 1993 going
> > independent full time, using Dataflex mainly, but about then I
discovered
> MS
> > Access 1.1 and I've never looked back. ( although we only put the last
> > Dataflex system that I was involved with to sleep at the beginning of
this
> > year!).
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Stuart
> > 
> > On 21 Nov 2008 at 15:49, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access  wrote:
> > 
> > > Lovely.  Loads fast. I like that.  
> > > 
> > > OK, I gotta ask - how'd you end up in PNG?  Or did you start there? 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Rocky Smolin
> > > Beach Access Software
> > > 858-259-4334
> > > www.e-z-mrp.com
> > > www.bchacc.com
> > >  
> > >  
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart 
> > > McLachlan
> > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 3:44 PM
> > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
> > > 
> > > I've just updated my site at http://www.lexacorp.com.pg over the last 
> > > few days.
> > > 
> > > I built it using frames <bleuch> about 6 or 7 years ago and it was 
> > > looking very tired and old fashioned.
> > > 
> > > The new version uses Server Side Includes for a consistent layout
> > > 
> > > That way I just need a line
> > > <!--#include virtual="header.html" --> in each page rather than 
> > > repeating all the background, header image, menu code etc.
> > > I do the same for the footer. 
> > > 
> > > Incidentally, the menu is a straight lift from <quote>
> > > /***********************************************
> > > * CSS Horizontal List Menu- by JavaScript Kit (www.javascriptkit.com)
> > > * Menu interface credits:
> > > http://www.dynamicdrive.com/style/csslibrary/item/glossy-vertical-
> > > menu/
> > > * This notice must stay intact for usage
> > > * Visit JavaScript Kit at http://www.javascriptkit.com/ for this 
> > > script and 100s more ***********************************************/
> > > </quote>
> > > 
> > > Feel free  to steal any ideas you need for content.
> > > Rocky's site, build by  Karen Rosenstiel,  may give you a few ideas
too.
> > > 
> > > Actually, I've never found a WYSIWYG site designer that I like - I've 
> > > ended up doing it hand with a text editor which understands HTML 
> > > syntax.  (I swap between Crimson Editor and
> > > NoteTab)
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Stuart
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 21 Nov 2008 at 9:28, Tony Septav wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hey All
> > > > After much research, I finally settled on looking at the trial 
> > > > version of WebEasy7.  I had to start somewhere, the more I 
> > > > researched the topic the more confusing it got, with all the pros 
> > > > and cons to different approaches. As I mentioned at the moment all I

> > > > am concerned about  is getting a web page up and running, fancy will
> > come later.
> > > > Thought this would give you all a laugh (talk about naive). The part

> > > > I am finding most difficult, is filling in 4 pages of information - 
> > > > Home, Products, About Us and Contact us.  I know from a marketing 
> > > > point of view you are supposed to be trying to sell the company, but

> > > > I have always been known as an individual who keeps things short and

> > > > to the point. I figured one page would do it , but looking at other 
> > > > sites I don't think that is a good marketing idea. So I guess I will

> > > > have to "time trip" through my 20 years of developing applications 
> > > > and put together an overview of what I can provide.  Here I thought 
> > > > I could bang this thing together in a couple of days,  but now I see

> > > > it is going to take me 2 or 3 weeks to just initially put it 
> > > > together and come up with a powerful presentation.  My hat is off to

> > > > those of you that have web sites, I now realize the work you put 
> > > > into to getting  them up and
> > > running.
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Nov 23 14:06:45 2008
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 12:06:45 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
In-Reply-To: <492810D4.8010203@nanaimo.ark.com>
References: <200811211732.mALHWA34005511@databaseadvisors.com>
	<492810D4.8010203@nanaimo.ark.com>
Message-ID: <E775C7BD55DD44FF9B1FD424FE84F70B@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi Tony:

Why not use Visual Studio Express edition from MS:
http://www.microsoft.com/express/download/. You can build very simple web
sites using the product (standard HTML, basic CSS and JavaScript) and if
want to get fancy, the sky's the limit.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 6:02 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design

Hey Karen
Not what I would call the easy part.  Doesn't matter how good the 
content is, if the design is not visually appealing the site "sucks".

Tony Septav
Nanaimo, BC
Canada

Karen Rosenstiel wrote:

>Yup! I do the easy part -- the design. 
>
>
>Regards,
> 
>Karen Rosenstiel
>Seattle WA USA
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav
>Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 9:29 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
>
>Hey All
>After much research, I finally settled on looking at the trial version of
>WebEasy7.  I had to start somewhere, the more I researched the topic the
>more confusing it got, with all the pros and cons to different approaches.
>As I mentioned at the moment all I am concerned about  is getting a web
page
>up and running, fancy will come later.
>Thought this would give you all a laugh (talk about naive). The part I am
>finding most difficult, is filling in 4 pages of information - Home,
>Products, About Us and Contact us.  I know from a marketing point of view
>you are supposed to be trying to sell the company, but I have always been
>known as an individual who keeps things short and to the point. I figured
>one page would do it , but looking at other sites I don't think that is a
>good marketing idea. So I guess I will have to "time trip" through my 20
>years of developing applications and put together an overview of what I can
>provide.  Here I thought I could bang this thing together in a couple of
>days,  but now I see it is going to take me 2 or 3 weeks to just initially
>put it together and come up with a powerful presentation.  My hat is off to
>those of you that have web sites, I now realize the work you put into to
>getting  them up and running.
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From darren at activebilling.com.au  Sun Nov 23 17:10:18 2008
From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren D)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:10:18 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Auto Backup
In-Reply-To: <441B3C415B36F54397BC7CC8567776E703D6BF10@tagmail.corp.dayzim.com>
References: <441B3C415B36F54397BC7CC8567776E703D6BF10@tagmail.corp.dayzim.com>
Message-ID: <047101c94dc0$a876b020$0d1b910a@denzilnote>

Hi john

There are a few ways this can be achieved

You could call a simple batch file - via VBA
Call Shell("c:\MyWayCoolBatchFile.bat", WIN_NORMAL)

There is also the FileCopy function within access
It has 2 parameters
1= The file to be copied path 
2 = The new destination path
EG FileCopy "C:\someCoolFile.mdb","x:\MainServer\someCoolFile.mdb"

Then you can roll your own - Testing for file existence, copying to a path held
in some options table somewhere, appending datetimestamps to the file name etc
etc

Hope this helps
 
Darren

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Serrano, John K
Sent: Saturday, 22 November 2008 1:29 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Auto Backup

Has anyone ever done an auto backup within access 2003?

 

I have a database that I would like to auto backup on close.

 

I know there is an auto backup on the file menu; however has anyone done
this in code before?

 

 

John Serrano

 

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sun Nov 23 17:25:37 2008
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:25:37 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] query help
In-Reply-To: <000601c94d63$137251d0$4201a8c0@dabsight>
References: <4929CDF5.17028.AF891D1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<000601c94d63$137251d0$4201a8c0@dabsight>
Message-ID: <492A7311.8598.D7D856D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Duhh!

I wasn't thinking :-(


On 23 Nov 2008 at 12:00, DJK(John) Robinson wrote:

> Fine, Stuart, except for using First (which will often give Null).  Sum, Min
> or Max are equally OK for Pedro's example, though maybe not for his real
> problem - we can't tell!  :-)
> 
> John
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: 23 November 2008 11:41
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] query help
> 
> 
> You need something like:
> Select Distinct [Date],ax,ay,spec,First(mm),First(vv),First(egg),First(Larf)
> 
> >From tblMyTable
> Group By [Date],ax,ay,spec
> Order by [Date],ax,ay,spec
> 
> You may want to replace First() with Sum(),Min() or Max() depending on
> exactly h what you 
> actual data is and what results you want  
> 
> On 23 Nov 2008 at 11:28, Pedro Janssen wrote:
> 
> > Dear Group,
> > 
> > can you help me with a query?
> > 
> > 
> > I have:
> >  
> > Date                    ax               ay               spec
> mm            vv             egg              Larf
> > 
> > 01-01-01              123             123              A
> 1                                             
> > 
> > 01-01-01              123             123              A
> 3                             
> > 
> > 01-01-01              123             123              A
> 45            
> > 
> > 01-01-01              345             345              A
> 1                                             
> > 
> > 02-02-02              678             678              B
> 12            
> > 
> > 02-02-02              678             678              B
> 4
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > i want
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Date                    ax               ay               spec
> mm            vv             egg              Larf
> > 
> > 01-01-01              123             123              A
> 1                3              45            
> > 
> > 01-01-01              345             345              A
> 1                                             
> > 
> > 02-02-02              678             678              B
> 12               4
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > How can i do this in a single query?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Pedro
> > 
> >  
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From johncliviger at aol.com  Mon Nov 24 09:38:37 2008
From: johncliviger at aol.com (johncliviger at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:38:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access Programmers in Derby UK
In-Reply-To: <492983d4.0856100a.20ce.5043@mx.google.com>
References: <491dcb91.0ec5100a.3516.ffffba40@mx.google.com><BLU103-DAV1265EEBC433B9C61BF6AC8D2090@phx.gbl>
	<492983d4.0856100a.20ce.5043@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <8CB1C61DA7197B8-B20-DB1@webmail-da11.sysops.aol.com>

Hi Max

I thought you had my email address?
?
John


-----Original Message-----
From: Max Wanadoo <max.wanadoo at gmail.com>
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:24
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Programmers in Derby UK



John,
You haven't given a email address??
I am max.wanadoo AT gmail.com
Thanks
Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DJK(John)
Robinson
Sent: 23 November 2008 12:58
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Programmers in Derby UK

Hi Max

I'm usually so way behind in my reading of this list that I rarely get to
make a contribution of any sort - useful or otherwise.  As in this case!

You're probably fixed up by now - but just in case you're not, or undecided,
I'm in the  corner of Cheshire nearest to Derby: about an hour away.  Drop
me a line off-list if you're interested.  I'm fairly busy over the next few
weeks, but this is a seasonal affliction with music...

John

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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: 14 November 2008 19:04
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Access Programmers in Derby UK


Hi All,
Are there any Access Programmers in or around Derby UK looking to provide
some (paid) support work on a regular on-going basis? Thanks Max


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From John.Serrano at dayzim.com  Mon Nov 24 10:32:39 2008
From: John.Serrano at dayzim.com (Serrano, John K)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:32:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Auto Backup
In-Reply-To: <047101c94dc0$a876b020$0d1b910a@denzilnote>
Message-ID: <441B3C415B36F54397BC7CC8567776E703D6C1BC@tagmail.corp.dayzim.com>

Darren,

Thanks I will try this, thanks for responding...


John Serrano
Day & Zimmermann NPS
(757) 233 - 7481 Office
(757) 651 - 4320 Cellular
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren D
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 6:10 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Auto Backup

Hi john

There are a few ways this can be achieved

You could call a simple batch file - via VBA
Call Shell("c:\MyWayCoolBatchFile.bat", WIN_NORMAL)

There is also the FileCopy function within access
It has 2 parameters
1= The file to be copied path 
2 = The new destination path
EG FileCopy "C:\someCoolFile.mdb","x:\MainServer\someCoolFile.mdb"

Then you can roll your own - Testing for file existence, copying to a
path held
in some options table somewhere, appending datetimestamps to the file
name etc
etc

Hope this helps
 
Darren

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Serrano, John
K
Sent: Saturday, 22 November 2008 1:29 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Auto Backup

Has anyone ever done an auto backup within access 2003?

 

I have a database that I would like to auto backup on close.

 

I know there is an auto backup on the file menu; however has anyone done
this in code before?

 

 

John Serrano

 

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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Nov 24 11:05:39 2008
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 12:05:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Auto Backup
In-Reply-To: <441B3C415B36F54397BC7CC8567776E703D6C1BC@tagmail.corp.dayzim.com>
References: <047101c94dc0$a876b020$0d1b910a@denzilnote>
	<441B3C415B36F54397BC7CC8567776E703D6C1BC@tagmail.corp.dayzim.com>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0811240905k84edfces9b849f150705650b@mail.gmail.com>

I confess that I'm a tad mystified why you would want to do this from within
Access rather than using the Windows scheduler.

A.

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Serrano, John K
<John.Serrano at dayzim.com>wrote:

> Darren,
>
> Thanks I will try this, thanks for responding...
>
>


From denis at sherman.org.uk  Mon Nov 24 12:17:59 2008
From: denis at sherman.org.uk (DenisSherman)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:17:59 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access Programmers in Derby UK
In-Reply-To: <8CB1C61DA7197B8-B20-DB1@webmail-da11.sysops.aol.com>
References: <491dcb91.0ec5100a.3516.ffffba40@mx.google.com>
	<BLU103-DAV1265EEBC433B9C61BF6AC8D2090@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <cda8f54e0811241017m410572fan77849b4dbac7b1e2@mail.gmail.com>

John,
Old age.  Sorry mate.
Max


On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 3:38 PM, <johncliviger at aol.com> wrote:

> Hi Max
>
> I thought you had my email address?
> ?
> John
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Max Wanadoo <max.wanadoo at gmail.com>
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' <
> accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:24
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Programmers in Derby UK
>
>
>
> John,
> You haven't given a email address??
> I am max.wanadoo AT gmail.com
> Thanks
> Max
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of DJK(John)
> Robinson
> Sent: 23 November 2008 12:58
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access Programmers in Derby UK
>
> Hi Max
>
> I'm usually so way behind in my reading of this list that I rarely get to
> make a contribution of any sort - useful or otherwise.  As in this case!
>
> You're probably fixed up by now - but just in case you're not, or
> undecided,
> I'm in the  corner of Cheshire nearest to Derby: about an hour away.  Drop
> me a line off-list if you're interested.  I'm fairly busy over the next few
> weeks, but this is a seasonal affliction with music...
>
> John
>
> --
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
> Sent: 14 November 2008 19:04
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Access Programmers in Derby UK
>
>
> Hi All,
> Are there any Access Programmers in or around Derby UK looking to provide
> some (paid) support work on a regular on-going basis? Thanks Max
>
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From John.Serrano at dayzim.com  Mon Nov 24 13:14:39 2008
From: John.Serrano at dayzim.com (Serrano, John K)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:14:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Auto Backup
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0811240905k84edfces9b849f150705650b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <441B3C415B36F54397BC7CC8567776E703D6C261@tagmail.corp.dayzim.com>

Honestly, that would be a better idea! 

Not quite sure what I was thinking? Sometimes I get so inundated with
Access that I forget that there are other tools to use?

Thanks for the feedback!

John Serrano

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 12:06 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Auto Backup

I confess that I'm a tad mystified why you would want to do this from
within
Access rather than using the Windows scheduler.

A.

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Serrano, John K
<John.Serrano at dayzim.com>wrote:

> Darren,
>
> Thanks I will try this, thanks for responding...
>
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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Mon Nov 24 14:26:07 2008
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:26:07 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Switch function in a query
Message-ID: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C142811F7@houex1.kindermorgan.com>

This is my first attempt to use this expression in a query. When I use the expression below I get a value of 1,2 or 3 for each record and also a duplicate record with the area field blank. What am I doing wrong. I have also listed below the entire SQL string. The field ChildPID may appear in the ConfigMaster table multiple times.

Area:Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",2,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3)

SELECT [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].PID, 
[qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number, 
[qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].RecordDate, dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.Status, Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",2,_
[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3) AS Area
FROM ([qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior] 
INNER JOIN dbo_DSS_StatusChanges 
ON ([qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].MaxOfStatusDate = dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.StatusDate) 
AND ([qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].PID = dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.PID)) 
INNER JOIN ConfigMaster 
ON [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number = ConfigMaster.ChildPID
GROUP BY [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].PID, 
[qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number, 
[qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].RecordDate, dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.Status, Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",2,
[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3)
ORDER BY [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number;

Chester Kaup
Engineering Technician
Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP
Office (432) 688-3797
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Nov 24 14:41:02 2008
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:41:02 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] File Transfer Progress Bar
Message-ID: <BE24CC4A73164B9A81C2CF2F1B225189@danwaters>

Has anyone made a progress bar that will show the progress of downloading a
file?  To do this, I'll need to know the size of a file, and be able to
determine how much of that file has been transferred perhaps every second or
so.

Thanks!
Dan



From davidmcafee at gmail.com  Mon Nov 24 14:45:02 2008
From: davidmcafee at gmail.com (David McAfee)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 12:45:02 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Switch function in a query
In-Reply-To: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C142811F7@houex1.kindermorgan.com>
References: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C142811F7@houex1.kindermorgan.com>
Message-ID: <8786a4c00811241245r59614126la2bed3f9ba72c2be@mail.gmail.com>

I could be wrong, but I think you have the WGRP11x and the 1,2 & 3 swapped.

According to help:


Switch Function Example

This example uses the Switch function to return the name of a language
that matches the name of a city.

Function MatchUp (CityName As String)
    Matchup = Switch(CityName = "London", "English", CityName _
                    = "Rome", "Italian", CityName = "Paris", "French")
End Function

Switch returns a Null value if:

None of the expressions is True.


The first True expression has a corresponding value that is Null.

Switch evaluates all of the expressions, even though it returns only
one of them. For this reason, you should watch for undesirable side
effects. For example, if the evaluation of any expression results in a
division by zero error, an error occurs.



On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Kaup, Chester
<Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com> wrote:
>
> This is my first attempt to use this expression in a query. When I use the expression below I get a value of 1,2 or 3 for each record and also a duplicate record with the area field blank. What am I doing wrong. I have also listed below the entire SQL string. The field ChildPID may appear in the ConfigMaster table multiple times.
>
> Area:Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",2,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3)
>
> SELECT [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].PID,
> [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number,
> [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].RecordDate, dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.Status, Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",2,_
> [ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3) AS Area
> FROM ([qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior]
> INNER JOIN dbo_DSS_StatusChanges
> ON ([qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].MaxOfStatusDate = dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.StatusDate)
> AND ([qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].PID = dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.PID))
> INNER JOIN ConfigMaster
> ON [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number = ConfigMaster.ChildPID
> GROUP BY [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].PID,
> [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number,
> [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].RecordDate, dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.Status, Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",2,
> [ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3)
> ORDER BY [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number;
>
> Chester Kaup
> Engineering Technician
> Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP
> Office (432) 688-3797
> FAX (432) 688-3799
>
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Nov 24 15:05:43 2008
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:05:43 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Data Transfer Speed: ODBC vs. OLEDB
Message-ID: <E4C8135222924B3685A36C1DE21A8958@danwaters>

I've been preparing to upsize an Access database for a customer, and I first
set up a test to see how much faster data transfer would using an OLEDB
provider vs. using ODBC table links, both to the same SQL Server database.

My test was simple:  From a client PC, copy a record from a table and insert
it into an identical table.  Do this 50 times for each method.  The results
are quite interesting.  You might want to paste this into a spreadsheet.

Location	Test	 Msecs	  Secs	Secs/Cycle	Factor
						
Rem Desk	ODBC	  1922	  1.92	0.038	
Rem Desk	OLEDB	    62	  0.06	0.001	  	31
						
LAN		ODBC	  2922	  2.92	0.058	
LAN		OLEDB	   140	  0.14	0.003	  	21
						
WAN: MPLS	ODBC	 27641	 27.64	0.553	
WAN: MPLS	OLEDB	  2219	  2.22	0.044	  	12
						
WAN: Asia	ODBC	205235	205.24	4.105	
WAN: Asia	OLEDB	 19703	 19.70	0.394	  	10


The test in Asia was done from Thailand, with the server in Minneapolis.  We
used Access 2003 as the FE, and SQL Server 2005 for data tables.  

Has anyone else set up tests like this?  Were your results comparable?

By the way, I also did a LAN test using table links to an Access BE with a
permanently open recordset, and the results were almost identical to ODBC
table links to SQL Server.

Thanks!
Dan





From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Mon Nov 24 15:08:06 2008
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:08:06 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Switch function in a query
In-Reply-To: <8786a4c00811241245r59614126la2bed3f9ba72c2be@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C142811F7@houex1.kindermorgan.com>
	<8786a4c00811241245r59614126la2bed3f9ba72c2be@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C14281214@houex1.kindermorgan.com>

I am not following you here. The same thing as a case statement would like  this

Select Case Configmaster.PID
	Case "WGRP115"
		Area =1
	Case "WGRP116"
		Area =2
	Case "WGRP117"
		Area =3
End Select

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David McAfee
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 2:45 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Switch function in a query

I could be wrong, but I think you have the WGRP11x and the 1,2 & 3 swapped.

According to help:


Switch Function Example

This example uses the Switch function to return the name of a language
that matches the name of a city.

Function MatchUp (CityName As String)
    Matchup = Switch(CityName = "London", "English", CityName _
                    = "Rome", "Italian", CityName = "Paris", "French")
End Function

Switch returns a Null value if:

None of the expressions is True.


The first True expression has a corresponding value that is Null.

Switch evaluates all of the expressions, even though it returns only
one of them. For this reason, you should watch for undesirable side
effects. For example, if the evaluation of any expression results in a
division by zero error, an error occurs.



On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Kaup, Chester
<Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com> wrote:
>
> This is my first attempt to use this expression in a query. When I use the expression below I get a value of 1,2 or 3 for each record and also a duplicate record with the area field blank. What am I doing wrong. I have also listed below the entire SQL string. The field ChildPID may appear in the ConfigMaster table multiple times.
>
> Area:Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",2,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3)
>
> SELECT [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].PID,
> [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number,
> [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].RecordDate, dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.Status, Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",2,_
> [ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3) AS Area
> FROM ([qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior]
> INNER JOIN dbo_DSS_StatusChanges
> ON ([qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].MaxOfStatusDate = dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.StatusDate)
> AND ([qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].PID = dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.PID))
> INNER JOIN ConfigMaster
> ON [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number = ConfigMaster.ChildPID
> GROUP BY [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].PID,
> [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number,
> [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].RecordDate, dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.Status, Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",2,
> [ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3)
> ORDER BY [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number;
>
> Chester Kaup
> Engineering Technician
> Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP
> Office (432) 688-3797
> FAX (432) 688-3799
>
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Nov 24 15:18:13 2008
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:18:13 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Switch function in a query
In-Reply-To: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C142811F7@houex1.kindermorgan.com>
References: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C142811F7@houex1.kindermorgan.com>
Message-ID: <492BA6B5.30880.32870A3@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Not sure yet what your problem is, but how replacing the switch with

... Val(Right([ConfigMaster]![PID],1)) - 4 As Area...

-- 
Stuart

On 24 Nov 2008 at 14:26, Kaup, Chester wrote:

> This is my first attempt to use this expression in a query. When I use
> the expression below I get a value of 1,2 or 3 for each record and
> also a duplicate record with the area field blank. What am I doing
> wrong. I have also listed below the entire SQL string. The field
> ChildPID may appear in the ConfigMaster table multiple times. 
> 
> Area:Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP
> 116",2,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3) 
> 
> SELECT [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].PID, [qry Status
> Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number, [qry Status Date Closest
> to 1 Month Prior].RecordDate, dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.Status,
> Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",
> 2,_ [ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3) AS Area FROM ([qry Status Date
> Closest to 1 Month Prior] INNER JOIN dbo_DSS_StatusChanges ON ([qry
> Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].MaxOfStatusDate =
> dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.StatusDate) AND ([qry Status Date Closest to 1
> Month Prior].PID = dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.PID)) INNER JOIN ConfigMaster
> ON [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number =
> ConfigMaster.ChildPID GROUP BY [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month
> Prior].PID, [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number,
> [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].RecordDate,
> dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.Status,
> Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",
> 2, [ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3) ORDER BY [qry Status Date Closest
> to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number; 
> 



From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Mon Nov 24 15:15:19 2008
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:15:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Switch function in a query
Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C21BEC25E9@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com>

You have data in the PID field that does not have the value 1,2 or 3. The
Switch statement does not say what to do in that circumstance, so nothing is
displayed in the Area field for those records.

There is no "Else" part to a switch statement, so you need some other
catch-all condition for the other data items, e.g.:

Area:Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",
2,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3,[PID]>3"Out of Range")

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 3:26 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Switch function in a query

This is my first attempt to use this expression in a query. When I use the
expression below I get a value of 1,2 or 3 for each record and also a
duplicate record with the area field blank. What am I doing wrong. I have
also listed below the entire SQL string. The field ChildPID may appear in
the ConfigMaster table multiple times.

Area:Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",
2,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3)

SELECT [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].PID, [qry Status Date
Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number, [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month
Prior].RecordDate, dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.Status,
Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",2,_
[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3) AS Area FROM ([qry Status Date Closest to
1 Month Prior] INNER JOIN dbo_DSS_StatusChanges ON ([qry Status Date Closest
to 1 Month Prior].MaxOfStatusDate = dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.StatusDate) AND
([qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].PID =
dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.PID)) INNER JOIN ConfigMaster ON [qry Status Date
Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number = ConfigMaster.ChildPID GROUP BY [qry
Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].PID, [qry Status Date Closest to 1
Month Prior].Well_Number, [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month
Prior].RecordDate, dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.Status,
Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",2,
[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3)
ORDER BY [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number;

Chester Kaup
Engineering Technician
Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP
Office (432) 688-3797
FAX (432) 688-3799

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From Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com  Mon Nov 24 15:23:10 2008
From: Lambert.Heenan at AIG.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:23:10 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Switch function in a query
Message-ID: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C21BEC25F3@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com>

Correction: should have said 'which does not have the value "WGRP115",
"WGRP116" or "WGRP117".'  

So if these cryptic data do indeed simply get 'bigger' (next value "WGRP118"
etc) then the switch statement would be something along the lines of

Area:Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",
2,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3,[PID]>Area:Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="W
GRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",2,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3,
[PID]>"WGRP117"),"Out of Range")

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:15 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Switch function in a query

You have data in the PID field that does not have the value 1,2 or 3. The
Switch statement does not say what to do in that circumstance, so nothing is
displayed in the Area field for those records.

There is no "Else" part to a switch statement, so you need some other
catch-all condition for the other data items, e.g.:

Area:Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",
2,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3,[PID]>3"Out of Range")

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 3:26 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Switch function in a query

This is my first attempt to use this expression in a query. When I use the
expression below I get a value of 1,2 or 3 for each record and also a
duplicate record with the area field blank. What am I doing wrong. I have
also listed below the entire SQL string. The field ChildPID may appear in
the ConfigMaster table multiple times.

Area:Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",
2,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3)

SELECT [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].PID, [qry Status Date
Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number, [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month
Prior].RecordDate, dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.Status,
Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",2,_
[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3) AS Area FROM ([qry Status Date Closest to
1 Month Prior] INNER JOIN dbo_DSS_StatusChanges ON ([qry Status Date Closest
to 1 Month Prior].MaxOfStatusDate = dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.StatusDate) AND
([qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].PID =
dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.PID)) INNER JOIN ConfigMaster ON [qry Status Date
Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number = ConfigMaster.ChildPID GROUP BY [qry
Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].PID, [qry Status Date Closest to 1
Month Prior].Well_Number, [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month
Prior].RecordDate, dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.Status,
Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",2,
[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3)
ORDER BY [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number;

Chester Kaup
Engineering Technician
Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP
Office (432) 688-3797
FAX (432) 688-3799

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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Mon Nov 24 15:26:41 2008
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:26:41 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Switch function in a query
In-Reply-To: <492BA6B5.30880.32870A3@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C142811F7@houex1.kindermorgan.com>
	<492BA6B5.30880.32870A3@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C14281227@houex1.kindermorgan.com>

That sounds good at first glance but will not work because the field ChildPID can be associated with many different PID's. For example ChildPID could be associated with PID's 

PID	     ChildPID
Cambrian	100-1
PAT 100-1	100-1
WGRP1		100-1
WGRP116	100-1
WGRP12	100-1
WGRP160	100-1
WGRP162	100-1
WGRP17	100-1
WGRP217	100-1
WGRP28	100-1
WGRP3		100-1
WGRP35	100-1
WGRP37	100-1
WGRP53	100-1

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 3:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Switch function in a query

Not sure yet what your problem is, but how replacing the switch with

... Val(Right([ConfigMaster]![PID],1)) - 4 As Area...

-- 
Stuart

On 24 Nov 2008 at 14:26, Kaup, Chester wrote:

> This is my first attempt to use this expression in a query. When I use
> the expression below I get a value of 1,2 or 3 for each record and
> also a duplicate record with the area field blank. What am I doing
> wrong. I have also listed below the entire SQL string. The field
> ChildPID may appear in the ConfigMaster table multiple times. 
> 
> Area:Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP
> 116",2,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3) 
> 
> SELECT [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].PID, [qry Status
> Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number, [qry Status Date Closest
> to 1 Month Prior].RecordDate, dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.Status,
> Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",
> 2,_ [ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3) AS Area FROM ([qry Status Date
> Closest to 1 Month Prior] INNER JOIN dbo_DSS_StatusChanges ON ([qry
> Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].MaxOfStatusDate =
> dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.StatusDate) AND ([qry Status Date Closest to 1
> Month Prior].PID = dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.PID)) INNER JOIN ConfigMaster
> ON [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number =
> ConfigMaster.ChildPID GROUP BY [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month
> Prior].PID, [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number,
> [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].RecordDate,
> dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.Status,
> Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",
> 2, [ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3) ORDER BY [qry Status Date Closest
> to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number; 
> 

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From DWUTKA at Marlow.com  Mon Nov 24 15:29:10 2008
From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:29:10 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Data Transfer Speed: ODBC vs. OLEDB
In-Reply-To: <E4C8135222924B3685A36C1DE21A8958@danwaters>
Message-ID: <A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B201CDF731@MIEXCH.marlow.ii-vi.net>

Not a surprise to me.  OLEDB drivers are going to always be faster then
ODBC drivers.  ODBC is a layer over the native engine, where as an OLEDB
driver is talking the same language as the database, so it is processed
much faster.

Drew 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 3:06 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; SQL Server List
Subject: [AccessD] Data Transfer Speed: ODBC vs. OLEDB

I've been preparing to upsize an Access database for a customer, and I
first set up a test to see how much faster data transfer would using an
OLEDB provider vs. using ODBC table links, both to the same SQL Server
database.

My test was simple:  From a client PC, copy a record from a table and
insert it into an identical table.  Do this 50 times for each method.
The results are quite interesting.  You might want to paste this into a
spreadsheet.

Location	Test	 Msecs	  Secs	Secs/Cycle	Factor
						
Rem Desk	ODBC	  1922	  1.92	0.038	
Rem Desk	OLEDB	    62	  0.06	0.001	  	31
						
LAN		ODBC	  2922	  2.92	0.058	
LAN		OLEDB	   140	  0.14	0.003	  	21
						
WAN: MPLS	ODBC	 27641	 27.64	0.553	
WAN: MPLS	OLEDB	  2219	  2.22	0.044	  	12
						
WAN: Asia	ODBC	205235	205.24	4.105	
WAN: Asia	OLEDB	 19703	 19.70	0.394	  	10


The test in Asia was done from Thailand, with the server in Minneapolis.
We used Access 2003 as the FE, and SQL Server 2005 for data tables.  

Has anyone else set up tests like this?  Were your results comparable?

By the way, I also did a LAN test using table links to an Access BE with
a permanently open recordset, and the results were almost identical to
ODBC table links to SQL Server.

Thanks!
Dan



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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Mon Nov 24 15:32:57 2008
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:32:57 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Switch function in a query
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References: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C21BEC25F3@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com>
Message-ID: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C1428122B@houex1.kindermorgan.com>

The way the DB is set up there has to be a match for each of the three switch conditions. I really don't want an other condition. Also the PID field in the table is sorted but the values are such that thing like WGRP7 comes after WGRP69.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 3:23 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Switch function in a query

Correction: should have said 'which does not have the value "WGRP115",
"WGRP116" or "WGRP117".'  

So if these cryptic data do indeed simply get 'bigger' (next value "WGRP118"
etc) then the switch statement would be something along the lines of

Area:Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",
2,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3,[PID]>Area:Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="W
GRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",2,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3,
[PID]>"WGRP117"),"Out of Range")

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:15 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Switch function in a query

You have data in the PID field that does not have the value 1,2 or 3. The
Switch statement does not say what to do in that circumstance, so nothing is
displayed in the Area field for those records.

There is no "Else" part to a switch statement, so you need some other
catch-all condition for the other data items, e.g.:

Area:Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",
2,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3,[PID]>3"Out of Range")

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 3:26 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Switch function in a query

This is my first attempt to use this expression in a query. When I use the
expression below I get a value of 1,2 or 3 for each record and also a
duplicate record with the area field blank. What am I doing wrong. I have
also listed below the entire SQL string. The field ChildPID may appear in
the ConfigMaster table multiple times.

Area:Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",
2,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3)

SELECT [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].PID, [qry Status Date
Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number, [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month
Prior].RecordDate, dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.Status,
Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",2,_
[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3) AS Area FROM ([qry Status Date Closest to
1 Month Prior] INNER JOIN dbo_DSS_StatusChanges ON ([qry Status Date Closest
to 1 Month Prior].MaxOfStatusDate = dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.StatusDate) AND
([qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].PID =
dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.PID)) INNER JOIN ConfigMaster ON [qry Status Date
Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number = ConfigMaster.ChildPID GROUP BY [qry
Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].PID, [qry Status Date Closest to 1
Month Prior].Well_Number, [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month
Prior].RecordDate, dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.Status,
Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",2,
[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3)
ORDER BY [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number;

Chester Kaup
Engineering Technician
Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP
Office (432) 688-3797
FAX (432) 688-3799

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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Mon Nov 24 15:36:00 2008
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:36:00 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Switch function in a query
In-Reply-To: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C21BEC25E9@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com>
References: <34C8A2AB1EF3564CB0D64DB6AFFDD5C21BEC25E9@XLIVMBX35bkup.aig.com>
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If I understand correctly how to use the switch statement I am looking in the PID field for "WGRP115" or "WGRP116" or "WGRP117" and returning a 1, 2 or 3 not the reverse.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 3:15 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Switch function in a query

You have data in the PID field that does not have the value 1,2 or 3. The
Switch statement does not say what to do in that circumstance, so nothing is
displayed in the Area field for those records.

There is no "Else" part to a switch statement, so you need some other
catch-all condition for the other data items, e.g.:

Area:Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",
2,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3,[PID]>3"Out of Range")

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 3:26 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Switch function in a query

This is my first attempt to use this expression in a query. When I use the
expression below I get a value of 1,2 or 3 for each record and also a
duplicate record with the area field blank. What am I doing wrong. I have
also listed below the entire SQL string. The field ChildPID may appear in
the ConfigMaster table multiple times.

Area:Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",
2,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3)

SELECT [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].PID, [qry Status Date
Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number, [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month
Prior].RecordDate, dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.Status,
Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",2,_
[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3) AS Area FROM ([qry Status Date Closest to
1 Month Prior] INNER JOIN dbo_DSS_StatusChanges ON ([qry Status Date Closest
to 1 Month Prior].MaxOfStatusDate = dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.StatusDate) AND
([qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].PID =
dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.PID)) INNER JOIN ConfigMaster ON [qry Status Date
Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number = ConfigMaster.ChildPID GROUP BY [qry
Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].PID, [qry Status Date Closest to 1
Month Prior].Well_Number, [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month
Prior].RecordDate, dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.Status,
Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",2,
[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3)
ORDER BY [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number;

Chester Kaup
Engineering Technician
Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP
Office (432) 688-3797
FAX (432) 688-3799

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From davidmcafee at gmail.com  Mon Nov 24 15:39:03 2008
From: davidmcafee at gmail.com (David McAfee)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 13:39:03 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Switch function in a query
In-Reply-To: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C1428122B@houex1.kindermorgan.com>
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	<0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C1428122B@houex1.kindermorgan.com>
Message-ID: <8786a4c00811241339k3446e36y18cb01766b9966c@mail.gmail.com>

Are you going to put a where clause to filter the results for those
three values?

I was under the assumption that the numeric values were your PIDs
earlier, thats why I thought you had the values switched.


On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Kaup, Chester
<Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com> wrote:
> The way the DB is set up there has to be a match for each of the three switch conditions. I really don't want an other condition. Also the PID field in the table is sorted but the values are such that thing like WGRP7 comes after WGRP69.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 3:23 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Switch function in a query
>
> Correction: should have said 'which does not have the value "WGRP115",
> "WGRP116" or "WGRP117".'
>
> So if these cryptic data do indeed simply get 'bigger' (next value "WGRP118"
> etc) then the switch statement would be something along the lines of
>
> Area:Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",
> 2,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3,[PID]>Area:Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="W
> GRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",2,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3,
> [PID]>"WGRP117"),"Out of Range")
>
> Lambert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Heenan, Lambert
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:15 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Switch function in a query
>
> You have data in the PID field that does not have the value 1,2 or 3. The
> Switch statement does not say what to do in that circumstance, so nothing is
> displayed in the Area field for those records.
>
> There is no "Else" part to a switch statement, so you need some other
> catch-all condition for the other data items, e.g.:
>
> Area:Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",
> 2,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3,[PID]>3"Out of Range")
>
> Lambert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 3:26 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Switch function in a query
>
> This is my first attempt to use this expression in a query. When I use the
> expression below I get a value of 1,2 or 3 for each record and also a
> duplicate record with the area field blank. What am I doing wrong. I have
> also listed below the entire SQL string. The field ChildPID may appear in
> the ConfigMaster table multiple times.
>
> Area:Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",
> 2,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3)
>
> SELECT [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].PID, [qry Status Date
> Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number, [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month
> Prior].RecordDate, dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.Status,
> Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",2,_
> [ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3) AS Area FROM ([qry Status Date Closest to
> 1 Month Prior] INNER JOIN dbo_DSS_StatusChanges ON ([qry Status Date Closest
> to 1 Month Prior].MaxOfStatusDate = dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.StatusDate) AND
> ([qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].PID =
> dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.PID)) INNER JOIN ConfigMaster ON [qry Status Date
> Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number = ConfigMaster.ChildPID GROUP BY [qry
> Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].PID, [qry Status Date Closest to 1
> Month Prior].Well_Number, [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month
> Prior].RecordDate, dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.Status,
> Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",2,
> [ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3)
> ORDER BY [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number;
>
> Chester Kaup
> Engineering Technician
> Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP
> Office (432) 688-3797
> FAX (432) 688-3799
>
>
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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Mon Nov 24 15:43:16 2008
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:43:16 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Switch function in a query
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Message-ID: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C1428123E@houex1.kindermorgan.com>

Actually I was expecting to see only those three values. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David McAfee
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 3:39 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Switch function in a query

Are you going to put a where clause to filter the results for those
three values?

I was under the assumption that the numeric values were your PIDs
earlier, thats why I thought you had the values switched.


On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Kaup, Chester
<Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com> wrote:
> The way the DB is set up there has to be a match for each of the three switch conditions. I really don't want an other condition. Also the PID field in the table is sorted but the values are such that thing like WGRP7 comes after WGRP69.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 3:23 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Switch function in a query
>
> Correction: should have said 'which does not have the value "WGRP115",
> "WGRP116" or "WGRP117".'
>
> So if these cryptic data do indeed simply get 'bigger' (next value "WGRP118"
> etc) then the switch statement would be something along the lines of
>
> Area:Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",
> 2,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3,[PID]>Area:Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="W
> GRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",2,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3,
> [PID]>"WGRP117"),"Out of Range")
>
> Lambert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Heenan, Lambert
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:15 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: RE: [AccessD] Switch function in a query
>
> You have data in the PID field that does not have the value 1,2 or 3. The
> Switch statement does not say what to do in that circumstance, so nothing is
> displayed in the Area field for those records.
>
> There is no "Else" part to a switch statement, so you need some other
> catch-all condition for the other data items, e.g.:
>
> Area:Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",
> 2,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3,[PID]>3"Out of Range")
>
> Lambert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 3:26 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Switch function in a query
>
> This is my first attempt to use this expression in a query. When I use the
> expression below I get a value of 1,2 or 3 for each record and also a
> duplicate record with the area field blank. What am I doing wrong. I have
> also listed below the entire SQL string. The field ChildPID may appear in
> the ConfigMaster table multiple times.
>
> Area:Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",
> 2,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3)
>
> SELECT [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].PID, [qry Status Date
> Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number, [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month
> Prior].RecordDate, dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.Status,
> Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",2,_
> [ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3) AS Area FROM ([qry Status Date Closest to
> 1 Month Prior] INNER JOIN dbo_DSS_StatusChanges ON ([qry Status Date Closest
> to 1 Month Prior].MaxOfStatusDate = dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.StatusDate) AND
> ([qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].PID =
> dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.PID)) INNER JOIN ConfigMaster ON [qry Status Date
> Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number = ConfigMaster.ChildPID GROUP BY [qry
> Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].PID, [qry Status Date Closest to 1
> Month Prior].Well_Number, [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month
> Prior].RecordDate, dbo_DSS_StatusChanges.Status,
> Switch([ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP115",1,[ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP116",2,
> [ConfigMaster]![PID]="WGRP117",3)
> ORDER BY [qry Status Date Closest to 1 Month Prior].Well_Number;
>
> Chester Kaup
> Engineering Technician
> Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP
> Office (432) 688-3797
> FAX (432) 688-3799
>
>
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From DWUTKA at Marlow.com  Mon Nov 24 15:57:52 2008
From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:57:52 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
In-Reply-To: <4927D458.20197.34181C2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B201CDF734@MIEXCH.marlow.ii-vi.net>

 Ever try Microsoft Script Editor?  I use it for all of my asp/html
stuff.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 5:44 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design

I've just updated my site at http://www.lexacorp.com.pg over the last
few days.

I built it using frames <bleuch> about 6 or 7 years ago and it was
looking very tired and old fashioned.

The new version uses Server Side Includes for a consistent layout

That way I just need a line
<!--#include virtual="header.html" -->
in each page rather than repeating all the background, header image,
menu code etc.
I do the same for the footer. 

Incidentally, the menu is a straight lift from <quote>
/***********************************************
* CSS Horizontal List Menu- by JavaScript Kit (www.javascriptkit.com)
* Menu interface credits:
http://www.dynamicdrive.com/style/csslibrary/item/glossy-vertical-
menu/
* This notice must stay intact for usage
* Visit JavaScript Kit at http://www.javascriptkit.com/ for this script
and 100s more ***********************************************/
</quote>

Feel free  to steal any ideas you need for content.
Rocky's site, build by  Karen Rosenstiel,  may give you a few ideas too.

Actually, I've never found a WYSIWYG site designer that I like - I've
ended up doing it hand with a text editor which understands HTML syntax.
(I swap between Crimson Editor and
NoteTab)  

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Nov 24 16:28:01 2008
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 08:28:01 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
In-Reply-To: <A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B201CDF734@MIEXCH.marlow.ii-vi.net>
References: <4927D458.20197.34181C2@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B201CDF734@MIEXCH.marlow.ii-vi.net>
Message-ID: <492BB711.308.3685892@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Just opened it through Word for the first time ever. Looks as though it might be useful. 

It took me a while to find the MSE7.exe file in my Office 2003 directories, but I've now got it 
set as a possible "Open with..." and I'll give it a go.

Thanks,
Stuart


On 24 Nov 2008 at 15:57, Drew Wutka wrote:

>  Ever try Microsoft Script Editor?  I use it for all of my asp/html
> stuff.
> 
> Drew
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
> McLachlan
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 5:44 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
> 
> I've just updated my site at http://www.lexacorp.com.pg over the last
> few days.
> 
> I built it using frames <bleuch> about 6 or 7 years ago and it was
> looking very tired and old fashioned.
> 
> The new version uses Server Side Includes for a consistent layout
> 
> That way I just need a line
> <!--#include virtual="header.html" -->
> in each page rather than repeating all the background, header image,
> menu code etc.
> I do the same for the footer. 
> 
> Incidentally, the menu is a straight lift from <quote>
> /***********************************************
> * CSS Horizontal List Menu- by JavaScript Kit (www.javascriptkit.com)
> * Menu interface credits:
> http://www.dynamicdrive.com/style/csslibrary/item/glossy-vertical-
> menu/
> * This notice must stay intact for usage
> * Visit JavaScript Kit at http://www.javascriptkit.com/ for this script
> and 100s more ***********************************************/
> </quote>
> 
> Feel free  to steal any ideas you need for content.
> Rocky's site, build by  Karen Rosenstiel,  may give you a few ideas too.
> 
> Actually, I've never found a WYSIWYG site designer that I like - I've
> ended up doing it hand with a text editor which understands HTML syntax.
> (I swap between Crimson Editor and
> NoteTab)  
> 
> --
> Stuart
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From DWUTKA at Marlow.com  Mon Nov 24 17:32:06 2008
From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka)
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:32:06 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
In-Reply-To: <492BB711.308.3685892@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B201CDF737@MIEXCH.marlow.ii-vi.net>

It's a handy utility with intellisense and HTML 'finishing'.  (Create a
blank page, save it as .asp or .htm, then go and type <html>, and it
will put the </html> in there automatically....)

Drew 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design

Just opened it through Word for the first time ever. Looks as though it
might be useful. 

It took me a while to find the MSE7.exe file in my Office 2003
directories, but I've now got it set as a possible "Open with..." and
I'll give it a go.

Thanks,
Stuart


On 24 Nov 2008 at 15:57, Drew Wutka wrote:

>  Ever try Microsoft Script Editor?  I use it for all of my asp/html 
> stuff.
> 
> Drew
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart 
> McLachlan
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 5:44 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Web Design
> 
> I've just updated my site at http://www.lexacorp.com.pg over the last 
> few days.
> 
> I built it using frames <bleuch> about 6 or 7 years ago and it was 
> looking very tired and old fashioned.
> 
> The new version uses Server Side Includes for a consistent layout
> 
> That way I just need a line
> <!--#include virtual="header.html" --> in each page rather than 
> repeating all the background, header image, menu code etc.
> I do the same for the footer. 
> 
> Incidentally, the menu is a straight lift from <quote>
> /***********************************************
> * CSS Horizontal List Menu- by JavaScript Kit (www.javascriptkit.com)
> * Menu interface credits:
> http://www.dynamicdrive.com/style/csslibrary/item/glossy-vertical-
> menu/
> * This notice must stay intact for usage
> * Visit JavaScript Kit at http://www.javascriptkit.com/ for this 
> script and 100s more ***********************************************/
> </quote>
> 
> Feel free  to steal any ideas you need for content.
> Rocky's site, build by  Karen Rosenstiel,  may give you a few ideas
too.
> 
> Actually, I've never found a WYSIWYG site designer that I like - I've 
> ended up doing it hand with a text editor which understands HTML
syntax.
> (I swap between Crimson Editor and
> NoteTab)
> 
> --
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Tue Nov 25 08:06:48 2008
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:06:48 +0000
Subject: [AccessD]  Conditional Functions (Switch function)
In-Reply-To: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C14281214@houex1.kindermorgan.com>
References: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C142811F7@houex1.kindermorgan.com>
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	<0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C14281214@houex1.kindermorgan.com>
Message-ID: <BAY127-W15713583D82F9F5AAD66F8D20B0@phx.gbl>


Hello All,
 
Seeing the question related to 'SWITCH'...made me wonder...
 
How many 'similar' conditional functions are there...and when is it appropriate to use each?
 
IF
IIF
CASE
SWITCH
 
I'm sure there are more...and I'm curious to know what they are.
 
Thanks,
 
Mark A. Matte
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From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Tue Nov 25 08:44:39 2008
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:44:39 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Conditional Functions (Switch function)
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-W15713583D82F9F5AAD66F8D20B0@phx.gbl>
References: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C142811F7@houex1.kindermorgan.com>
	<8786a4c00811241245r59614126la2bed3f9ba72c2be@mail.gmail.com>
	<0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C14281214@houex1.kindermorgan.com>
	<BAY127-W15713583D82F9F5AAD66F8D20B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <cda8f54e0811250644x42702a8aw5ba8c53ef2a71125@mail.gmail.com>

I use SWITCH() and CHOOSE() quite often.  Regardless of speed, they are so
easy to code and make life a lot easier.  I also like REPLACE() and will
often do multiple lines of REPLACE() each one doing a slightly different job
to get the data as I want it.  They are also easy to understand when
re-viewing past code.

If you are not familiar with these functions, then type in, say, SWITCH()
and position on it and then hit the F1 key for associated help.

Max


On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com>wrote:

>
> Hello All,
>
> Seeing the question related to 'SWITCH'...made me wonder...
>
> How many 'similar' conditional functions are there...and when is it
> appropriate to use each?
>
> IF
> IIF
> CASE
> SWITCH
>
> I'm sure there are more...and I'm curious to know what they are.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark A. Matte
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Nov 25 11:57:54 2008
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:57:54 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Using Windows Authentication with Access/SQL Apps
Message-ID: <06D67EFB57DC47DF97FDAE6781E70791@danwaters>

I'm working on upsizing one of my customers to SQL.  They have asked if we
could eliminate the Access workgroup username and password login that I
currently use (mostly just so the database knows who is logging in).

With SQL using Windows Authentication, my Access app could simply pick up on
the current username and go from there, without going through an additional
username and password entry.

Has anyone done this?  Any pros, cons, or gotchas?

Thanks!
Dan






From DWUTKA at Marlow.com  Tue Nov 25 12:16:41 2008
From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:16:41 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Using Windows Authentication with Access/SQL Apps
In-Reply-To: <06D67EFB57DC47DF97FDAE6781E70791@danwaters>
Message-ID: <A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B201CDF744@MIEXCH.marlow.ii-vi.net>

There's a thread just a week or so ago with the subject 'Active
Directory Authentication or Lookup for ...' has some good points.  In
addition to what was posted in that thread, your SQL Server, if it is
using NT authentication, you shouldn't have to do anything special for
your users to connect to linked tables, because it should be
automatically using their logged in credentials.

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 11:58 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Using Windows Authentication with Access/SQL Apps

I'm working on upsizing one of my customers to SQL.  They have asked if
we could eliminate the Access workgroup username and password login that
I currently use (mostly just so the database knows who is logging in).

With SQL using Windows Authentication, my Access app could simply pick
up on the current username and go from there, without going through an
additional username and password entry.

Has anyone done this?  Any pros, cons, or gotchas?

Thanks!
Dan




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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Nov 25 12:46:28 2008
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:46:28 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Using Windows Authentication with Access/SQL Apps
In-Reply-To: <A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B201CDF744@MIEXCH.marlow.ii-vi.net>
References: <06D67EFB57DC47DF97FDAE6781E70791@danwaters>
	<A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B201CDF744@MIEXCH.marlow.ii-vi.net>
Message-ID: <D6A1F13065944741949AEA410ABBA224@danwaters>

Thanks Drew - I'll look that up.

-----Original Message-----


There's a thread just a week or so ago with the subject 'Active
Directory Authentication or Lookup for ...' has some good points.  In
addition to what was posted in that thread, your SQL Server, if it is
using NT authentication, you shouldn't have to do anything special for
your users to connect to linked tables, because it should be
automatically using their logged in credentials.

Drew

-----Original Message-----

I'm working on upsizing one of my customers to SQL.  They have asked if
we could eliminate the Access workgroup username and password login that
I currently use (mostly just so the database knows who is logging in).

With SQL using Windows Authentication, my Access app could simply pick
up on the current username and go from there, without going through an
additional username and password entry.

Has anyone done this?  Any pros, cons, or gotchas?

Thanks!
Dan




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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 25 13:11:35 2008
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:11:35 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Using Windows Authentication with Access/SQL Apps
In-Reply-To: <06D67EFB57DC47DF97FDAE6781E70791@danwaters>
References: <06D67EFB57DC47DF97FDAE6781E70791@danwaters>
Message-ID: <E7E9257838A141F8810FAAE4A8C48A96@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi Dan:

I have always given MS SQL a separate Username and Password by adding a
user's new group to the network. This is a group specifically for the MS SQL
users. That group is attached via the manger to the SQL and then I use the
MS SQL credentials as the username and login.... It gives an extra layer of
protection as well as allows the adding and removing of access to the
company data depending on a site requirements... Better flexibility as well.

HTH
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:58 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Using Windows Authentication with Access/SQL Apps

I'm working on upsizing one of my customers to SQL.  They have asked if we
could eliminate the Access workgroup username and password login that I
currently use (mostly just so the database knows who is logging in).

With SQL using Windows Authentication, my Access app could simply pick up on
the current username and go from there, without going through an additional
username and password entry.

Has anyone done this?  Any pros, cons, or gotchas?

Thanks!
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Nov 25 16:11:40 2008
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:11:40 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Using Windows Authentication with Access/SQL Apps
In-Reply-To: <06D67EFB57DC47DF97FDAE6781E70791@danwaters>
References: <06D67EFB57DC47DF97FDAE6781E70791@danwaters>
Message-ID: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEAB12738@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>

If your client has an IT department, they are currently screaming bloody
murder over that idea.  It means you're leaving your SQL Server database
at the mercy of any user who logs onto windows and then goes for a long
coffee break leaving someone else to poke around in their machine.

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:58 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Using Windows Authentication with Access/SQL Apps

I'm working on upsizing one of my customers to SQL.  They have asked if
we could eliminate the Access workgroup username and password login that
I currently use (mostly just so the database knows who is logging in).

With SQL using Windows Authentication, my Access app could simply pick
up on the current username and go from there, without going through an
additional username and password entry.

Has anyone done this?  Any pros, cons, or gotchas?

Thanks!
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Nov 25 16:56:35 2008
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:56:35 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Using Windows Authentication with Access/SQL Apps
In-Reply-To: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEAB12738@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>
References: <06D67EFB57DC47DF97FDAE6781E70791@danwaters>
	<F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEAB12738@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <F70BAEABF91C478892A6ACAACE5B4EB0@danwaters>

Hi Charlotte,

They do understand this, and I'll be sure to bring it up again.  But, they
are the ones who asked me if I could get rid of the login.  They are
thinking that this could be a feature that would make more people accepting
of using the application.

The customer may not do what I would do, but they do pay the bills!  ;-)

Dan

-----Original Message-----
If your client has an IT department, they are currently screaming bloody
murder over that idea.  It means you're leaving your SQL Server database
at the mercy of any user who logs onto windows and then goes for a long
coffee break leaving someone else to poke around in their machine.

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
I'm working on upsizing one of my customers to SQL.  They have asked if
we could eliminate the Access workgroup username and password login that
I currently use (mostly just so the database knows who is logging in).

With SQL using Windows Authentication, my Access app could simply pick
up on the current username and go from there, without going through an
additional username and password entry.

Has anyone done this?  Any pros, cons, or gotchas?

Thanks!
Dan




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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Nov 25 17:50:49 2008
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 09:50:49 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Using Windows Authentication with Access/SQL Apps
In-Reply-To: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEAB12738@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>
References: <06D67EFB57DC47DF97FDAE6781E70791@danwaters>,
	<F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEAB12738@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <492D1BF9.1893.28F441@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

I tend to disagree.  

If the system is designed properly, the database is never "at the mercy of" users, whether 
they are using SQL Server or Windows authentication to access the data.  

If it is not designed properly,  adding an additional login step is unlikely to do much for your 
security.

Setting up your system to allow both authentication methods is the key here.

In Dan's case "mostly just so the database knows who is logging in" - Windows 
Authentication is the easiest for the users. Just make sure than these accounts don't have a 
lot of power and that any power users/groups are still managed by SQL Server authenticated 
accounts. 

-- 
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On 25 Nov 2008 at 14:11, Charlotte Foust wrote:

> If your client has an IT department, they are currently screaming bloody
> murder over that idea.  It means you're leaving your SQL Server database
> at the mercy of any user who logs onto windows and then goes for a long
> coffee break leaving someone else to poke around in their machine.
> 
> Charlotte Foust 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:58 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Using Windows Authentication with Access/SQL Apps
> 
> I'm working on upsizing one of my customers to SQL.  They have asked if
> we could eliminate the Access workgroup username and password login that
> I currently use (mostly just so the database knows who is logging in).
> 
> With SQL using Windows Authentication, my Access app could simply pick
> up on the current username and go from there, without going through an
> additional username and password entry.
> 
> Has anyone done this?  Any pros, cons, or gotchas?
> 
> Thanks!
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
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From davidmcafee at gmail.com  Tue Nov 25 18:14:47 2008
From: davidmcafee at gmail.com (David McAfee)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:14:47 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Using Windows Authentication with Access/SQL Apps
In-Reply-To: <F70BAEABF91C478892A6ACAACE5B4EB0@danwaters>
References: <06D67EFB57DC47DF97FDAE6781E70791@danwaters>
	<F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEAB12738@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>
	<F70BAEABF91C478892A6ACAACE5B4EB0@danwaters>
Message-ID: <8786a4c00811251614t30b83f5bvdcceb0599abbe7dc@mail.gmail.com>

I use SQL authentication with my ADPs but I check for username when starting
the adp.
If fOSusername() <> the connection string logged in username, then I prompt
for a username using frmLogin.

I then change the connection string. So the only time they ever have to log
in is when I put out an update to the FE.

I can give you my sample code if you want.

David

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Dan Waters <dwaters at usinternet.com> wrote:

> Hi Charlotte,
>
> They do understand this, and I'll be sure to bring it up again.  But, they
> are the ones who asked me if I could get rid of the login.  They are
> thinking that this could be a feature that would make more people accepting
> of using the application.
>
> The customer may not do what I would do, but they do pay the bills!  ;-)
>
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> If your client has an IT department, they are currently screaming bloody
> murder over that idea.  It means you're leaving your SQL Server database
> at the mercy of any user who logs onto windows and then goes for a long
> coffee break leaving someone else to poke around in their machine.
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
> -----Original Message-----
> I'm working on upsizing one of my customers to SQL.  They have asked if
> we could eliminate the Access workgroup username and password login that
> I currently use (mostly just so the database knows who is logging in).
>
> With SQL using Windows Authentication, my Access app could simply pick
> up on the current username and go from there, without going through an
> additional username and password entry.
>
> Has anyone done this?  Any pros, cons, or gotchas?
>
> Thanks!
> Dan
>
>
>
>
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Nov 25 20:21:38 2008
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:21:38 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Using Windows Authentication with Access/SQL Apps
In-Reply-To: <492D1BF9.1893.28F441@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <06D67EFB57DC47DF97FDAE6781E70791@danwaters>,
	<F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEAB12738@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>
	<492D1BF9.1893.28F441@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <7DA3FA983E35435F8A2340C830B31FC5@danwaters>

Hi Stuart,

My customer has set up an Admin group and a Users group for this app, so
we'll be able to preclude administrative changes by a regular user.  But
I'll remind my Admins to keep this in mind.

Thanks!
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 5:51 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Using Windows Authentication with Access/SQL Apps

I tend to disagree.  

If the system is designed properly, the database is never "at the mercy of"
users, whether 
they are using SQL Server or Windows authentication to access the data.  

If it is not designed properly,  adding an additional login step is unlikely
to do much for your 
security.

Setting up your system to allow both authentication methods is the key here.

In Dan's case "mostly just so the database knows who is logging in" -
Windows 
Authentication is the easiest for the users. Just make sure than these
accounts don't have a 
lot of power and that any power users/groups are still managed by SQL Server
authenticated 
accounts. 

-- 
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On 25 Nov 2008 at 14:11, Charlotte Foust wrote:

> If your client has an IT department, they are currently screaming bloody
> murder over that idea.  It means you're leaving your SQL Server database
> at the mercy of any user who logs onto windows and then goes for a long
> coffee break leaving someone else to poke around in their machine.
> 
> Charlotte Foust 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:58 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Using Windows Authentication with Access/SQL Apps
> 
> I'm working on upsizing one of my customers to SQL.  They have asked if
> we could eliminate the Access workgroup username and password login that
> I currently use (mostly just so the database knows who is logging in).
> 
> With SQL using Windows Authentication, my Access app could simply pick
> up on the current username and go from there, without going through an
> additional username and password entry.
> 
> Has anyone done this?  Any pros, cons, or gotchas?
> 
> Thanks!
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Nov 25 20:24:14 2008
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:24:14 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Using Windows Authentication with Access/SQL Apps
In-Reply-To: <8786a4c00811251614t30b83f5bvdcceb0599abbe7dc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <06D67EFB57DC47DF97FDAE6781E70791@danwaters><F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEAB12738@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local><F70BAEABF91C478892A6ACAACE5B4EB0@danwaters>
	<8786a4c00811251614t30b83f5bvdcceb0599abbe7dc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0979AAAFB3B94E5EB60351D2D91F9492@danwaters>

Hi David,

That code sounds handy - send a copy!

Thanks!
Dan

-----Original Message-----
I use SQL authentication with my ADPs but I check for username when starting
the adp.
If fOSusername() <> the connection string logged in username, then I prompt
for a username using frmLogin.

I then change the connection string. So the only time they ever have to log
in is when I put out an update to the FE.

I can give you my sample code if you want.

David

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Dan Waters <dwaters at usinternet.com> wrote:

> Hi Charlotte,
>
> They do understand this, and I'll be sure to bring it up again.  But, they
> are the ones who asked me if I could get rid of the login.  They are
> thinking that this could be a feature that would make more people
accepting
> of using the application.
>
> The customer may not do what I would do, but they do pay the bills!  ;-)
>
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> If your client has an IT department, they are currently screaming bloody
> murder over that idea.  It means you're leaving your SQL Server database
> at the mercy of any user who logs onto windows and then goes for a long
> coffee break leaving someone else to poke around in their machine.
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
> -----Original Message-----
> I'm working on upsizing one of my customers to SQL.  They have asked if
> we could eliminate the Access workgroup username and password login that
> I currently use (mostly just so the database knows who is logging in).
>
> With SQL using Windows Authentication, my Access app could simply pick
> up on the current username and go from there, without going through an
> additional username and password entry.
>
> Has anyone done this?  Any pros, cons, or gotchas?
>
> Thanks!
> Dan
>
>
>
>
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From markamatte at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 26 08:08:34 2008
From: markamatte at hotmail.com (Mark A Matte)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:08:34 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Using Windows Authentication with Access/SQL Apps
In-Reply-To: <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEAB12738@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>
References: <06D67EFB57DC47DF97FDAE6781E70791@danwaters>
	<F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEAB12738@INFOSERVER04.infostat.local>
Message-ID: <BAY127-W141AA798390097F02D43FFD20A0@phx.gbl>


Not necessarily.  Our company/IT department has just implemented a SSO (single sign on) application company wide.  I agree with you that leaving a machine unattended gives access to every app on my machine...I'll even go a step further and say it is down right silly when my Outlook closes due to inactivity...and the SSO instantly signs it back in.
 
As for the question.  I have not done it with SQL Server...but in Access FE/BE situation...I have turned off the shift-by-pass...and on open the FE checks who is logged on the machine...and validates that username against a table.  The table actually already existed...the user IDs mimicked their Windows ID...and I used it to lookup/display the users full names on reports.  So I didn't even have to change the model.  
 
If the user is not in the table...the app closes.  This has come in handy...as users can no longer share IDs and passwords for the app and they don't have a password to remember other than Windows.
 
Good Luck,
 
Mark A. Matte
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:11:40 -0800
> From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Using Windows Authentication with Access/SQL Apps
> 
> If your client has an IT department, they are currently screaming bloody
> murder over that idea. It means you're leaving your SQL Server database
> at the mercy of any user who logs onto windows and then goes for a long
> coffee break leaving someone else to poke around in their machine.
> 
> Charlotte Foust 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:58 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] Using Windows Authentication with Access/SQL Apps
> 
> I'm working on upsizing one of my customers to SQL. They have asked if
> we could eliminate the Access workgroup username and password login that
> I currently use (mostly just so the database knows who is logging in).
> 
> With SQL using Windows Authentication, my Access app could simply pick
> up on the current username and go from there, without going through an
> additional username and password entry.
> 
> Has anyone done this? Any pros, cons, or gotchas?
> 
> Thanks!
> Dan
> 
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From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru  Wed Nov 26 12:31:38 2008
From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:31:38 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Activate MS Word (MS Excel, MS Access,
	... ) Ribbon tabs...
Message-ID: <000301c94ff5$3af86930$6401a8c0@nant>

Hi All,

I have to activate a certain MS Word Ribbon tab (Add-ins) after my add-ins
VBA code finishes executing. Do you have any idea how to do that?

Thank you.

--
Shamil



From john at winhaven.net  Fri Nov 28 00:13:02 2008
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 00:13:02 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT -  Vipre Security Software - Black Friday Sale
Message-ID: <032e01c95120$5ed88020$1c898060$@net>

Just got notice of this:

 

<quote>

Sunbelt Software is offering an incredible Black Friday Sale on VIPRE
Antivirus + Antispyware. Starting Friday November 28th your customers can
pick up a single user license of VIPRE for only $9.95. Customers will also
receive a $20 savings on multiple user licenses and unlimited home site
licenses of VIPRE. Encourage your customers to take advantage of this 70%
savings.

 

The VIPRE Black Friday sale run Friday November 28th, 2008 and runs for 24
hours (EST).

<unquote>

 

 

I don't think there will ever be a better deal than this. If you're using
AVG, Norton, McAfee, or anything else - now is the time for a switch!

 

Click here to learn more:

http://www.winhaven.net/security/virus.html

 

John B




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Nov 29 22:18:57 2008
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:18:57 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Testing
In-Reply-To: <032e01c95120$5ed88020$1c898060$@net>
References: <032e01c95120$5ed88020$1c898060$@net>
Message-ID: <4932A0D1.13497.10389BD@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

I've seen nothing on the for 48 hours.
Is it my ISP or just that the List is quiet because it's Thanksgiving in the US?


From actebs at actebs.com.au  Sat Nov 29 22:38:04 2008
From: actebs at actebs.com.au (ACTEBS)
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:38:04 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Testing
In-Reply-To: <4932A0D1.13497.10389BD@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <003301c952a5$6f821f90$1408a8c0@theblues.local>

Test received...

Vlad 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Sunday, 30 November 2008 3:19 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Testing

I've seen nothing on the for 48 hours.
Is it my ISP or just that the List is quiet because it's Thanksgiving in the
US?
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Nov 29 22:42:09 2008
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:42:09 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Testing
In-Reply-To: <003301c952a5$6f821f90$1408a8c0@theblues.local>
References: <4932A0D1.13497.10389BD@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<003301c952a5$6f821f90$1408a8c0@theblues.local>
Message-ID: <4932A641.19665.118C66F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Yep, looks like it's just quiet then.


On 30 Nov 2008 at 15:38, ACTEBS wrote:

> Test received...
> 
> Vlad 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: Sunday, 30 November 2008 3:19 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Testing
> 
> I've seen nothing on the for 48 hours.
> Is it my ISP or just that the List is quiet because it's Thanksgiving in the
> US?
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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sun Nov 30 04:42:07 2008
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:42:07 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Testing
In-Reply-To: <4932A641.19665.118C66F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <2EDC1BDA1F284D83AB3741C939329917@MINSTER>

Thanksgiving weekend over the way. Usually quiet on the list.

Andy Lacey

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: 30 November 2008 04:42
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Testing


Yep, looks like it's just quiet then.


On 30 Nov 2008 at 15:38, ACTEBS wrote:

> Test received...
> 
> Vlad
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart 
> McLachlan
> Sent: Sunday, 30 November 2008 3:19 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Testing
> 
> I've seen nothing on the for 48 hours.
> Is it my ISP or just that the List is quiet because it's Thanksgiving 
> in the US?
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Nov 30 05:55:56 2008
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 03:55:56 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Interesting software
In-Reply-To: <2EDC1BDA1F284D83AB3741C939329917@MINSTER>
References: <4932A641.19665.118C66F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<2EDC1BDA1F284D83AB3741C939329917@MINSTER>
Message-ID: <8B04D1E17AAA4D04A0EDD0FFFB9426DC@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi All:

Here is an interesting piece of software. This product is supposed to
protect your system from rogue applications. According to my son-in-law the
app has been running on Linux for years but now it has made a move to
Windows.

This might be an application for those concerned about viruses and malware
and other disruptive products on your system: http://www.sandboxie.com. It
comes highly recommended.

Jim



From dbdoug at gmail.com  Sun Nov 30 19:45:17 2008
From: dbdoug at gmail.com (Doug Steele)
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:45:17 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Caspio Bridge
Message-ID: <4dd71a0c0811301745l3085b5dbtc58a2ca450838683@mail.gmail.com>

A client of mine found a product called 'Caspio Bridge'.  It claims to be an
easy-to-use service for building data driven web pages.  It is supposed to
be very Access-like in its design tools and Access data compatible.  Does
anyone have any experience with it?

Thanks,

Doug Steele


From accessd at shaw.ca  Sun Nov 30 21:34:31 2008
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:34:31 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Caspio Bridge
In-Reply-To: <4dd71a0c0811301745l3085b5dbtc58a2ca450838683@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4dd71a0c0811301745l3085b5dbtc58a2ca450838683@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3DAE4AB9176B43D5B2EA928D775C3887@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi Doug:

I wonder if this product would provide anymore functionality, performance or
features than applications like IronSpeedDesigner or DotNetNuke?

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Steele
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 5:45 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Caspio Bridge

A client of mine found a product called 'Caspio Bridge'.  It claims to be an
easy-to-use service for building data driven web pages.  It is supposed to
be very Access-like in its design tools and Access data compatible.  Does
anyone have any experience with it?

Thanks,

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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Sun Nov 30 21:43:20 2008
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Mike Mattys)
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:43:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Caspio Bridge
References: <4dd71a0c0811301745l3085b5dbtc58a2ca450838683@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D2F3E30A6D47468BAB5D90E09589E3B0@Mattys>

We've gone over the material for many such products.
This stuff is really good. DabbleDB is another.

If you don't mind your data being 'held hostage' on
someone else's server, then by all means ...


-
Michael R Mattys
MapPoint and Database Dev
www.mattysconsulting.com
-
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Steele" <dbdoug at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:45 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Caspio Bridge


>A client of mine found a product called 'Caspio Bridge'.  It claims to be 
>an
> easy-to-use service for building data driven web pages.  It is supposed to
> be very Access-like in its design tools and Access data compatible.  Does
> anyone have any experience with it?
>
> Thanks,
>
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