William Hindman
wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com
Tue Oct 7 23:00:34 CDT 2008
I miss JC posting here as much as anyone ...but lets not put that loss on anyone but JC ...in case you've forgotten just what happened, I've inserted the relevant post below ...no one, not even JC, can do that here ...we have OT specifically for such and he was asked very, very politely to take it there ...it was his choice to leave and imnsho, no one else is responsible in any way for his absence. William ...note that we still correspond off list ...its his express choice not to return, at least for now. _______________________________________________________________ > #1. You should NEVER have two users trying to edit the same field in the same record at the same time, where BOTH values being entered are correct. (ie, there should only be one right 'Last Name' for a person, yes, it may change, but there is only one correct value for it) HORSHESHIT! Hmmm... not enough emphasis there. !!!HORSHESHIT!!!!HORSHESHIT!!!!HORSHESHIT!!!!HORSHESHIT!!!! I have NO IDEA what world YOU live in but in my world people can change whatever they want whenever they want. Person A writes the name in the last name field from a hastily scribbled form filled out by hand by a person who has a sixth grade education. Person B is reading a form with the information for that SAME person typed in by a doctor office, the last name is different. They can change it if they wish. Person C is on the phone with the mother of that person. They are verifying the information and mom says "no the name is spelled XXXXX. That person can change it. It is NOT MY JOB to tell any of these people that they cannot change the information in the database. !!!!THEY MIGHT BE DOING THESE THINGS AT THE SAME INSTANT!!!!! !!!!I MAY NEED TO DO THAT IN AN UNBOUND FORM!!!! NOW, DREW, THAT IS LEGAL. I AM !!!NOT!!! GOING TO DESIGNING A TRANSACTION SYSTEM TO SAVE EVERY CHANGE EVER ENTERED BY ANYONE IN A BRAND NEW RECORD AS A CONTINUOUS HISTORY. MY CLIENT DID NOT ASK FOR THAT, WILL NOT PAY ME FOR THAT AND IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN. !!!!I HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT!!!! !!!YOU!!! ARE AN ARROGANT ASS IF YOU THINK ONLY YOU KNOWS WHAT IS LEGAL OR POSSIBLE IN THIS WORLD. Go away. FAR FAR AWAY. JOIN THE FOREIGN LEGIONS AND TRY TO CONVERT SOMEONE ELSE TO YOUR INSOLENT IDEAS. Quite obviously I do not need, nor WANT your responses. Please do NOT respond to this thread EVER AGAIN. In case you do not YET understand..... !!!HORSHESHIT!!!!HORSHESHIT!!!!HORSHESHIT!!!!HORSHESHIT!!!! ......to your silly ideas. Hmmmm.... I fear that I STILL was not speaking plainly enough... !!!HORSHESHIT!!!!HORSHESHIT!!!!HORSHESHIT!!!!HORSHESHIT!!!! ......to your silly ideas. Hmmmm.... I fear that I STILL was not speaking plainly enough... If you want to post solutions for questions I did not ask, please feel free to do so, in some other thread. Hmmm... I COULD SWEAR THAT I MADE THAT REQUEST BEFORE... John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com William -------------------------------------------------- From: "Dian" <nd500_lo at charter.net> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 7:29 PM To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Visual Basic 2008 Express & VB.NET > Me three...in case he's listening... > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Fred Hooper > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 1:51 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Visual Basic 2008 Express & VB.NET > > Particularly in case he's listening, me too. > > Fred Hooper > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo > Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 7:09 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Visual Basic 2008 Express & VB.NET > > Nice one Shamil. > >> where the sides do not come to a common point of view still they learn >> and > use a lot from each other > > > Wish that all took the same point of view. We might not have lost the > great John (think what you like, but I loved his posting. > > > Max > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil > Salakhetdinov > Sent: 05 October 2008 19:47 > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Visual Basic 2008 Express & VB.NET > > <<< > ...love the StackOverflow site ... > went right into my favorites ...thanks :) >>>> > My pleasure! :) > > That's what is good in discussions where the sides do not come to a common > point of view still they learn and use a lot from each other - duality, a > hidden(?) driving force, seems to be everywhere in this world... (Sorry > for > my getting a bit philosophical this Sunday's evening here...) > > Thank you, > > -- > Shamil > > P.S. Listening to "Cabaret" by Liza Minnelli right now :)... > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman > Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 12:45 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Visual Basic 2008 Express & VB.NET > > ...we'll agree to disagree :) > > ...in the time it takes for me to find the author's solution in a book, > assuming its even there, I can find dozens of valid approaches on the web > along with comments from people who have used them for better or worse > ...I've not opened any tech book in ages with the single exception of > Susan/Martin's Access to SQL Server which I have tagged with dozens of > yellow stickies ...other wise, its the web for me. > > ...I think the real downturn for me was when the book stores stopped > carrying a wide variety of them ...I used to go to Books-a-Million while > the > > family went store hopping ...I could actually open the book and read it to > see if it was at my level, presented like I like, and actually had useful > examples ...I'd buy any book that passed that test ...now its Amazon or > e-bay and I just don't even bother any more. > > ...love the StackOverflow site ...went right into my favorites ...thanks > :) > > William > "In politics, there are some candidates who use change to promote their > careers, and then there are those, like John McCain, who use their careers > to promote change." Gov. Palin > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru> > Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 12:28 PM > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Visual Basic 2008 Express & VB.NET > >> William, >> >> I do not see this book available for free, code only, do you? >> >> I'm gladly paying for the books like Marco's one as they pay >> themselves manifold and very quickly... >> >> These books have well systemized and "condensed" stuff, supplied with >> working real life apps unlike Internet where it's often not easy (very >> time >> consuming) to find needed information, and it's almost not possible at >> all to get so well systemized and ready to use for real life software >> development stuff as Marco's book: for big advanced projects I mean, >> conceptual yet very useful and applicable and proven in real life >> software development business solutions I mean... >> >> Of course Internet is full of cookbook-style solutions/advises but one >> still have to have good experience and intuition to apply them in this >> or that case, and often a lot of time to filter-out "garbage" stuff... >> >> BTW, have you heard about this project/initiative? >> >> "Stack Overflow Launches" >> http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2008/09/15.html and >> http://blog.stackoverflow.com/ >> >> from Joel Spolsky? >> >> It looks promising but I'd think it would never be a substitute for >> good books as Marco Bellinaso's one ... >> >> Thank you. >> >> -- >> Shamil >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William >> Hindman >> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 2:54 PM >> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Visual Basic 2008 Express & VB.NET >> >> ...you make my point for me Shamil ...the book is 3 years old now and >> everything is available on-line for free ...plus lots of updates, >> improvements, errors, and user comments >> >> http://www.codeplex.com/TheBeerHouse >> >> ...why pay Amazon? ...why a book? ...although I'll allow that having a >> 12gig >> >> internet link probably makes it easier for me than you :) >> >> ...ps ...I visit his blog sometimes ...the source code is there as >> well but not as well maintained as the codeplex source. >> >> William >> "In politics, there are some candidates who use change to promote >> their careers, and then there are those, like John McCain, who use >> their careers to promote change." 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