[AccessD] Web Applications

William Hindman wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com
Fri Apr 3 15:23:56 CDT 2009


Mark

...Max is overstating the difficulty ...its not "easy" per se and you do 
have to become reasonably competent with each of the individual technologies 
he addresses ...but one individual can certainly do it all without over 
stressing themselves and Visual Studio Express 2008 gives you the tools to 
grease the path ...you will need a very good graphics program designed for 
the Web ...Adobe Photo Shop is what I use but MS Expression Blend also comes 
highly recommended now and you don't have to learn the Adobe interface 
(which makes the Ribbon look positively brilliant by comparison) ...neither 
do you have to start with SQL Server, an Access mdb backend works just fine 
unless you expect hundreds of simultaneous users ...for example, I built 
www.jisshow.com for a client from scratch in a fairly short time without 
knowing anything but Access to begin with ...I'll be updating it to use SQL 
Server shortly because its starting to draw more use ...but all I used was 
VSE2008 and Photo Shop ...if I can do it, you can ...don't let Max scare you 
off :)

...I will add one bit of warning though ...you have to know who your 
audience is ...the differences between the major browsers can drive you nuts 
and its NOT just IE ...google and apple both have serious problems and FF3 
has many as well ...if you're doing it for an in-house clientele you can 
design to their browser standard but if you're doing it for a wider audience 
you'll have to make some choices or rent a straight jacket ...I gave up on 
google's chrome and apple's safari mostly because their market share is so 
small ...but even within FF and IE the differences and work arounds can add 
seriously to your development time ...and we won't even talk about screen 
resolutions and the abject impossibility of resizing to accommodate everyone 
without giving up serious design resources.

...its a lot to learn but its not a five man thing ...if you already build 
decent Access databases you can certainly move them to the web ...in fact, 
Shamil, Gustav and others here are involved in doing exactly that over on 
dba.vb right now using the northwind.mdb as their starting point ...I wish 
to god I could have gotten in to something like that when I started playing 
with Visual Studio ...you really should take a good look at that project 
first.

William

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From: "Max Wanadoo" <max.wanadoo at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 3:39 PM
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Web Applications

> I thought you might like this overview of what it takes to run a 
> successful
> web site.
> The alternative, which I recommend given our resources, is to goto a web
> site wizard which we use for the Events web site.  All the "hard" work is
> done for the user.
> But it come as-is (but still lots of flexibility).
> Max
>
>
>
> Web Development is extremely broad:
> 1) front-end HTML
> 2) front-end CSS
> 3) front-end Javascript/DHTML
> 4) back-end database access (SQL,TSQL)
> 5) back-end business logic (ASP.NET)
> 6) graphics specialist (Photoshop, Flash, MPG, etc)
> 7) web architect (pulling all of the above together into a coherent 
> design)
>
> Typically you need at least 5 separate people with expertise in all of the
> above to make a robust website.
> Best to select from the above menu.
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> Mark A Matte
>> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 9:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Count of records in PK range
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I have been interested in the past in moving to something
>> 'web based'...and have done a number of html and asp
>> tutorials...but would have to say I really don't know either.
>>
>> It has been recently suggested (at work) that I 'pick'
>> something and learn it.  Seems like a broad generic request
>> to me...but it is from a non technical person.
>>
>> So...I guess if I wanted to create interactive/dynamic web
>> applications...what criteria would I use to determine the
>> appropriate language/technology?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mark
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