Max Wanadoo
max.wanadoo at gmail.com
Wed Aug 5 16:54:14 CDT 2009
One must never lose sight of the fact that the longer you are on this (and others similar) sites, the more you learn and ipso facto the less questions you will be asking. The basic stuff that I was being asked 10 years or so ago are never posted here (or in Access-List) - in a sense, it means that we are achieving what we set out to do. Most of the question are pretty involved these days and require more than a simple "Click on this" answer. Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: 05 August 2009 22:47 To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Moderator Message Perspective from a relative newb, and hobby-time developer. (My career is mainly in the service industry (appliance, HVAC, etc...)) I believe I'm on the fairly newbie side of this list (maybe 3-4 years), and I agree with JC. I can remember a day when I could ask a question and would be guaranteed at least 3-5 different perspective on the issue, now.. I'm lucky to even get.... "I don't know".. I now find more solutions outside of AccessD then In, and I hate that because I learned SO MUCH for many of you guys.... I know it's sounds like a "what can I get" or "Me Me Me" statement, but I don't know how else to put it... it's just different now... What's the answer...? I have no idea, but I hope something changes... PS: I can tell you with the huge lack of interested in Access 2007 (and soon new version), I don't suspect things to get any better.... WBR Robert -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 12:56 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Moderator Message ...I'm with the wondrous (OK, nefarious) JC on this ...as one of those responsible for initially splitting the lists, I remember that bandwidth was a major driver since so many of our members were still on dial up ...splitting the lists allowed them to get only the Access related posts without having to dl the rest over 56kb connections. ...that is no longer the case ...the current board ought to consider reintegrating some of the lists ...not OT ...but others with low traffic. ...JC is, unfortunately, right about the list being dead far too often these days. ...and John, this is not a hit on you ...you're just doing your job and I appreciate just how well you do it. William -------------------------------------------------- From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 11:44 AM To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Moderator Message > John, > > It is my opinion that we have lost sight of the reasons for the other > lists to begin with. > > In the beginning was AccessD, and AccessD was with us, and AccessD was us, > and it was good. > > Then came a ton of traffic, and AccessD became overloaded, and OT was > created to move some of the > more ... lively... traffic off. AccessD was good again. > > As the world evolved and Access spread across the face of the world, > AccessD again became overloaded > and so other lists were created to channel specific interests, and AccessD > was good again. > > But as the evil Microsoft pushed its agenda and .Net spread across the > world, interest in Access > began to wane. Still protected by the demigods, jealously pushing > anything not Access related off > to the other lists, AccessD began to die. > > Now AccessD is a lonely place, devoid of life that was once so plentiful. > > But the wondrous (OK, nefarious) JC, bringer of great debates, wanders > through the lonely landscape > wondering if things must remain this way until the final day. Perhaps it > is time to renew the > banter, the OT discussions, to breath fresh life into a dying world. > Perhaps it is time to merge > the other lists, once so necessary, back into AccessD so that the once > mighty list can again have > meaning in the lonely lives of so many developers around the world. > > The wondrous (OK, nefarious) JC would speak his humble mind and suggest > that the OT list remain > untouched, available for the more ... lively... crowd, and that perhaps > all the other lists be > merged back into AccessD. > > John W. Colby > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > > John Bartow wrote: >> John, it's because we've added the other lists. >> >> We've previously discussed Windows Home Server on the dba-tech list. I >> have >> a WHS and I'd like to discuss it with someone I know has it also. >> >> We've previously discussed search engines on the DBA-tech and DBA-OT >> list. >> >> I am subscribed to every list Database Advisors has. I use Outlook 2007 >> via >> DSL. If it can receive and sort mail into relevant folders without a >> problem >> - I'm sure every other email client on a high speed connection can too. >> Please subscribe to those lists, as I and many others have, and you will >> feel that old camaraderie again. >> >> The more the merrier! >> > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com