Shamil Salakhetdinov
shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru
Sat Aug 8 13:15:32 CDT 2009
Hi Thomas, Thank you for your comment. As I noted I do not intend to start MS Access 2007 vs. MS Access X (<2007) discussion I just wanted to agree with Arthur therefore this will be my final post in this thread. BTW, but my previous posting I didn't mean that MS Access 2007 is better/has better interface than MS Access X (<2007) - I just wanted to note that I like MS Access 2007 a lot when it happens to do some development with it. I also didn't mean that MS likes/listen to opinions of all of MS Access developers and users but I'm quite sure that they(MS) do a lot of investigations, which involve many developers and users who do use MS Access/Office in their everyday work (I do not belong to this MS selected elite group), before they (MS) introduce the GUI changes as they did for MS Office/Access 2007. Short note (just a note - no discussion/arguing) about "throwing away a good percentage of their knowledge" - we're in IT/software development business - that kind of "previous experience losses" happens every day - and more and more with every new day. It's inevitable. Have a look at the cars: what external and internal "interface" they had in 80-ies/beginning-middle of 90-es and what they have now? MS Access/Office interface was quite the same since MS Access/Office 95/97 (and its ideas/principles are from 80-ies/90-ies). It was time to change it for MS Access/Office 2007. Not going into flame mode, not defending MS, just trying to be realistic. (Sure somebody will find my above passages stupid. No problem.) Thank you. -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Ewald Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 9:23 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access poll One of the poll options mentioned something like "Microsoft must hate Access developers." Why developers...how about users? And why stick with Access...all of Office was changed. Can you say "New Coke"? Microsoft took the best known office interface in the world and changed it, insisting that its millions (!) of users have to throw away a good percentage of their knowledge and start over. Not all of their knowledge, of course, but a good percentage. And why? Because they had too many options to fit in their menuing system - their easily adaptable menuing system? I'm not at the level of some of you, but I do Access (and Excel) development. Beyond that, though, I USE Access and Excel a great deal, and Microsoft is apparently intent on making much of my knowledge and experience obsolete (How politically correct: Level the playing field by removing the value of experience.). Since I make my living using and developing Access and Excel, I'll have to learn the ribbon eventually, unless Microsoft decides to dump it later, but I'm in no hurry. Like most companies, my employer and my current outside client are both in no hurry to migrate, so I'm safe for now. Thanks for listening. Tom Ewald Detroit Area Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2009 20:58:30 +0400 <<<All the bad-mouthing about Access 2007 is based on a failure to investigate what profound improvements lurk therein.>>> Agreed. Not going to start Access X (<2007) vs. Access 2007) flame. Just stating about my experience with MS Access 2007 development. And as you know I have intensive experience with working with MS Access since MS Access 1.1, especially with Access 2.0, Access 97, skipped Access 95, almost skipped MS Access 2000 and MS Access 2002(XP) and I have done quite a lot of development work with MS Access 2003. You can find software I have done running all over the world for all MS Access versions including MS Access 2007 - have a look www.4tops.com and www.helpgenerator.com (I do not work for that company nowadays, nor have I any shares in it or any profits from its current business). Thank you. -- Shamil -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4317 (20090808) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.esetnod32.ru __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4317 (20090808) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.esetnod32.ru