[AccessD] OT: It may be time to stop hating Microsoft.

Good to hear your views, Jim. I've used windows since 3.1. And I have and
use Mac and Linux in varying amounts.

Of course people helping themselves instead of paying is a real problem, but
less of a problem for windows than for, say,  perhaps  movie companies and
music groups. After all, windows still makes an absolute killing, even if
some of the work is pirated.

It seems very interesting to me, if only from a humanist point of view that
the one firm that takes the law into their own hands is the one making an
unbelievable amount from the IT revolution.

 Anyway, very good of you to spell out your views of it, and I am grateful.

Salut

paul


2009/8/26 Jim Dettman <jimdettman at verizon.net>

> Paul,
>
>   I've never had a problem with it either on any machine I've worked on.
> And I think your thinking on this is incorrect.  Just because Microsoft is
> "the biggest, wealthiest company in the IT world" doesn't mean it doesn't
> have rights.
>
>   WGA would not exist if not for pirated copies of their software; how
> often on this list have we discussed means of protecting our own software?
> Would you deny them the same right?
>
>   And sorry, but they don't just "stroll in"; you either purchased a PC
> with Windows (their software) and accepted the EULA or you went out and
> bought it.  Detectives and the tax man don't own anything on your PC.
> Microsoft does.  So the comparison you gave is comparing apples and
> oranges.
>
>  If your really that unhappy with a software company protecting its rights,
> then go and use another OS on *your* PC, which BTW is the only thing that
> you truly own.
>
> Jim.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Paul Rodgers
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 4:09 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: It may be time to stop hating Microsoft.
>
> The point is, Charlotte, that Microsoft circulate snoop software that gets
> onto your computer without your authority, and without asking you. If you
> don't install WGA, it just keeps appearing every time you start (or
> restart). It's somewhere among the startup programs, but you won't find it.
>
> Of course, that's nothing compared to what happens if you do accidentally
> install it. So many forums talk of the absolute nuisance it becomes through
> alleging legitimately bought software is pirated. It harasses the owner
> every time it starts, apparently.
>
> The conservatives among us will say, 'Well, if you have pirated software on
> your machine, you have only yourself to blame.'
>
> But detectives don't suddenly walk into your home on the off chance that
> you
> might have something you shouldn't have. The taxman doesn't just stroll in
> and look through your computer.
>
> There MIGHT be some empathy if it was being done by a company that was
> against the wall through so much of its software being pirated. But this is
> the biggest, wealthiest company in the IT world, owned by the richest man
> in
> the world, acting as no other organisation and no democratic country can.
> And, Charlotte, we made them wealthy, and him the wealthiest. Yet we, the
> computer user, is treated appallingly and undemocratically by them.
>
> So my point is that before we start loving Microsoft, they should deserve
> to
> be loved. In my book, WGA is proof that they don't deserve it and nor do
> they deserve our support.
> Cheers
> paul
>
> 2009/8/25 Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
>
> > Sounds a lot like Windows!  LOL
> > And your point is?
> >
> > Charlotte Foust
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Paul Rodgers
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:06 AM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: It may be time to stop hating Microsoft.
> >
> > Interesting that the pro-microsofties haven't mentioned the
> > euphemistically-named Windows Genuine Advantage which arrives on
> > machines unannounced,  unwelcome, and is just about impossible to get
> > rid of.
> > Cheers
> > paul
> >
> > 2009/8/24 Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
> >
> > > Are you volunteering again, JC?
> > >
> > > Charlotte
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:42 AM
> > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: It may be time to stop hating Microsoft.
> > >
> > > But who will we hate instead?
> > >
> > > John W. Colby
> > > www.ColbyConsulting.com
> >
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