From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Tue Dec  1 02:42:09 2009
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:42:09 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2010 - Publish To Sharepoint
In-Reply-To: <00AFD31CEF5A40A99594A0410AF1E14A@stevePC>
References: <sb123e6f.082@cactus.dk> <004301ca716a$e7ea3b40$0601a8c0@MSIMMSWS>,
	<00AFD31CEF5A40A99594A0410AF1E14A@stevePC>
Message-ID: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB0829502B0D385DD@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk>

What you may find is a market for applications running in Access using data stored within SharePoint. Using web services you can integrate this data into Access applications. I don't really see a need for Access on the web in terms of SharePoint. We simply use .net for this. 

One of the major issues with SharePoint and its data is that there is no good front end for it including reporting and queries. Access can do this and in fact I use it as a front end to some SharePoint data. Of course the SharePoint data is actually in SQL Server but its easy to hit using Access even if you simply link to the SharePoint list.

But I would guess in terms of getting access data to the web SharePoint unless you are already using it is a non starter. You could of course look at the free version and see how that will work out. Its worth downloading the betas and installing on Windows 7 or Vista for test purposes. You never know you may like it and see some use for it. It is perhaps the biggest seller in MS history and a lot of companies are using it. Lot of opportunities in the SharePoint market for people with skills and it looks like the future direction of most MS products will be based around SharePoint

>From an application development point of view Access is still unbeatable in terms of desktop applications.

Martin
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Dec  1 08:32:04 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 09:32:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()
Message-ID: <4B1528E4.50806@colbyconsulting.com>

I am seeing an issue in a linked table where the default value is set to date().  If I view the 
table it displays #unknown for the value for the field that is supposed to be using date() as the 
default value - and the function Time as well for that matter.  If I go directly in the BE that does 
not happen, and I can add a new record.  So it is only in a linked table that this is an issue.  No 
missing references.  SP3 applied.

This kinda looks like a missing reference but that is not the case.

I am not finding this problem with a Google search.

Has anyone seen this problem?
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 08:42:02 2009
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:42:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()
In-Reply-To: <4B1528E4.50806@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B1528E4.50806@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0912010642g4494cbdi470d8d7ed306f4c4@mail.gmail.com>

I haven't seen this issue, but try substituting Now() and see what happens.

Arthur

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:32 AM, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:

> I am seeing an issue in a linked table where the default value is set to
> date().  If I view the
> table it displays #unknown for the value for the field that is supposed to
> be using date() as the
> default value - and the function Time as well for that matter.  If I go
> directly in the BE that does
> not happen, and I can add a new record.  So it is only in a linked table
> that this is an issue.  No
> missing references.  SP3 applied.
>
> This kinda looks like a missing reference but that is not the case.
>
> I am not finding this problem with a Google search.
>
> Has anyone seen this problem?
> --
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From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 08:46:25 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 14:46:25 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()
In-Reply-To: <4B1528E4.50806@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B1528E4.50806@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <cda8f54e0912010646l2a7cd88aw3fc1c8420b1128c9@mail.gmail.com>

I suggest you compact/repair the BE with the FE closed, then relink the FE.
Max


On 01/12/2009, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> I am seeing an issue in a linked table where the default value is set to
> date().  If I view the
> table it displays #unknown for the value for the field that is supposed to
> be using date() as the
> default value - and the function Time as well for that matter.  If I go
> directly in the BE that does
> not happen, and I can add a new record.  So it is only in a linked table
> that this is an issue.  No
> missing references.  SP3 applied.
>
> This kinda looks like a missing reference but that is not the case.
>
> I am not finding this problem with a Google search.
>
> Has anyone seen this problem?
> --
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> www.ColbyConsulting.com
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Dec  1 09:11:26 2009
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:11:26 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Runaway Form?
In-Reply-To: <D26DBFE37E9F4FDEB3159975940E40A3@HAL9005>
References: <D208D0FD4909415698004B8E06679790@HAL9005><1F7FDC685FEE424F85779D4092E90EE6@danwaters>
	<D26DBFE37E9F4FDEB3159975940E40A3@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <E18792CC761149709B6E03F41EA01AE8@danwaters>

De Nada!  

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 7:28 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Runaway Form?

Dan:

"If you haven't already, import the frmMainMenu to a new Access file, then
back again to 'renew' this form. "


THAT DONE IT!!! 

Mil gracias.

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 4:56 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Runaway Form?

For testing:

Create a new blank form named: frmCPUTest

Create a new item in your Main Menu to open the above form.

Bit by bit, copy code and controls to the form frmCPUTest from the form
frmMainMenu, until the new form has identical functionality to the original
form.  Test the new form for CPU usage after each change.  If the new form
never does spike the CPU usage, then that's your new form!  Otherwise, you
should be able to see what in particular about the frmMainMenu is causing
the problem.

Good Luck!

PS - If you haven't already, import the frmMainMenu to a new Access file,
then back again to 'renew' this form.  You could also try a
Decompile/Compile and then a Compact/Repair.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 6:39 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Runaway Form?

Dear List:

I have a simple bound form.  When I open it and it is (apparently) just
sitting there waiting for me to do something, the task manager shows Access
using 50% of the machine cycles (I discovered this because whenever I opened
the app the fan in the comp would fire up).

I put break points in all the modules behind the form, and breakpoints in
all the public functions to see if I could catch it doing something.  

The form is called from the Main Menu.  So in the called form Open event, I
put Docmd.Close acForm, "frmMainMenu" and the CPU use for Access went to
zero.

So It's apparently something about leaving the Main Menu form open with the
called form.  I put breakpoints in all the modules behind Main Menu.  Didn't
break anywhere. I tried putting an open Main Menu command in the called
form's exit routine, but the Main Menu didn't open. 

This is pretty plain vanilla stuff and I've never seen this before.  So I'm
kind of stumped.  Has anyone seen this behavior before or have any ideas on
how to track down the problem?

MTIA

 

Rocky

 


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From Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com  Tue Dec  1 09:28:33 2009
From: Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 10:28:33 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()
In-Reply-To: <4B1528E4.50806@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B1528E4.50806@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E240FEF64@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>

I've seen it where Now() is the default value, which is essentially the same thing. It manifests itself for me occasionally when I  open a table is design view in the BE. It will give me an error message: "The expression you entered has a function name that Microsoft Access can't find." Then the weird stuff happens. After opening the table in design mode, if I look at the field that has Now() for the default value there is no default value expression showing up! So I close the table and then immediately open it up again in design view. The field then will display its default value expression [ which is =Now() ] and the error message does not show up. 

To make Access complain again all I need to do is close the back end and then open it up again. The above symptoms will then recur. I *do not* see any rows with #unknown values however. This is an Access 2002 format MDB file being worked on by Access 2002 SP3.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:32 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()

I am seeing an issue in a linked table where the default value is set to date().  If I view the table it displays #unknown for the value for the field that is supposed to be using date() as the default value - and the function Time as well for that matter.  If I go directly in the BE that does not happen, and I can add a new record.  So it is only in a linked table that this is an issue.  No missing references.  SP3 applied.

This kinda looks like a missing reference but that is not the case.

I am not finding this problem with a Google search.

Has anyone seen this problem?
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From Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com  Tue Dec  1 09:33:18 2009
From: Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 10:33:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()
In-Reply-To: <cda8f54e0912010646l2a7cd88aw3fc1c8420b1128c9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4B1528E4.50806@colbyconsulting.com>
	<cda8f54e0912010646l2a7cd88aw3fc1c8420b1128c9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E240FEF68@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>

I just did that to my back end. Made no difference at all. I still get the symptoms I described earlier:

"After opening the table in design mode, if I look at the field that has Now() for the default value there is no default value expression showing up! So I close the table and then immediately open it up again in design view. The field then will display its default value expression [ which is =Now() ] and the error message does not show up."  

This is while working directly in the back end, with no front end open or attached.

Lambert 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:46 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()

I suggest you compact/repair the BE with the FE closed, then relink the FE.
Max


On 01/12/2009, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> I am seeing an issue in a linked table where the default value is set 
> to date().  If I view the table it displays #unknown for the value for 
> the field that is supposed to be using date() as the default value - 
> and the function Time as well for that matter.  If I go directly in 
> the BE that does not happen, and I can add a new record.  So it is 
> only in a linked table that this is an issue.  No missing references.  
> SP3 applied.
>
> This kinda looks like a missing reference but that is not the case.
>
> I am not finding this problem with a Google search.
>
> Has anyone seen this problem?
> --
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Dec  1 09:54:28 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 10:54:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()
In-Reply-To: <4B1528E4.50806@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B1528E4.50806@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <4B153C34.1050909@colbyconsulting.com>

Sorry I didn't post back.  A decompile fixed this problem.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


jwcolby wrote:
> I am seeing an issue in a linked table where the default value is set to date().  If I view the 
> table it displays #unknown for the value for the field that is supposed to be using date() as the 
> default value - and the function Time as well for that matter.  If I go directly in the BE that does 
> not happen, and I can add a new record.  So it is only in a linked table that this is an issue.  No 
> missing references.  SP3 applied.
> 
> This kinda looks like a missing reference but that is not the case.
> 
> I am not finding this problem with a Google search.
> 
> Has anyone seen this problem?


From Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com  Tue Dec  1 09:49:12 2009
From: Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 10:49:12 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()
In-Reply-To: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E240FEF64@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
References: <4B1528E4.50806@colbyconsulting.com>
	<B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E240FEF64@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
Message-ID: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E240FEF7C@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>

Ah Hah!

The table where I was getting the error message had the default value for a date field set to (without the quotes) "=Now()" . When I changed that to just plain "Now()" the error message goes way, even after closing and reopening the back end.


Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 10:29 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()

I've seen it where Now() is the default value, which is essentially the same thing. It manifests itself for me occasionally when I  open a table is design view in the BE. It will give me an error message: "The expression you entered has a function name that Microsoft Access can't find." Then the weird stuff happens. After opening the table in design mode, if I look at the field that has Now() for the default value there is no default value expression showing up! So I close the table and then immediately open it up again in design view. The field then will display its default value expression [ which is =Now() ] and the error message does not show up. 

To make Access complain again all I need to do is close the back end and then open it up again. The above symptoms will then recur. I *do not* see any rows with #unknown values however. This is an Access 2002 format MDB file being worked on by Access 2002 SP3.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:32 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()

I am seeing an issue in a linked table where the default value is set to date().  If I view the table it displays #unknown for the value for the field that is supposed to be using date() as the default value - and the function Time as well for that matter.  If I go directly in the BE that does not happen, and I can add a new record.  So it is only in a linked table that this is an issue.  No missing references.  SP3 applied.

This kinda looks like a missing reference but that is not the case.

I am not finding this problem with a Google search.

Has anyone seen this problem?
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From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 10:16:50 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 16:16:50 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()
In-Reply-To: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E240FEF64@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
References: <4B1528E4.50806@colbyconsulting.com>
	<B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E240FEF64@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
Message-ID: <4b154195.0508d00a.761b.ffff88e9@mx.google.com>

If it cannot fund the now() function then that is a library missing problem.

Could your problem be a  leading space before the now() in the design.  I
have always put date() in the design and General as type which is equiv of
now() but never gives this error.

Hth

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: 01 December 2009 15:29
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()

I've seen it where Now() is the default value, which is essentially the same
thing. It manifests itself for me occasionally when I  open a table is
design view in the BE. It will give me an error message: "The expression you
entered has a function name that Microsoft Access can't find." Then the
weird stuff happens. After opening the table in design mode, if I look at
the field that has Now() for the default value there is no default value
expression showing up! So I close the table and then immediately open it up
again in design view. The field then will display its default value
expression [ which is =Now() ] and the error message does not show up. 

To make Access complain again all I need to do is close the back end and
then open it up again. The above symptoms will then recur. I *do not* see
any rows with #unknown values however. This is an Access 2002 format MDB
file being worked on by Access 2002 SP3.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:32 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()

I am seeing an issue in a linked table where the default value is set to
date().  If I view the table it displays #unknown for the value for the
field that is supposed to be using date() as the default value - and the
function Time as well for that matter.  If I go directly in the BE that does
not happen, and I can add a new record.  So it is only in a linked table
that this is an issue.  No missing references.  SP3 applied.

This kinda looks like a missing reference but that is not the case.

I am not finding this problem with a Google search.

Has anyone seen this problem?
--
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Dec  1 10:32:24 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:32:24 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()
In-Reply-To: <4b154195.0508d00a.761b.ffff88e9@mx.google.com>
References: <4B1528E4.50806@colbyconsulting.com>,
	<B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E240FEF64@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>,
	<4b154195.0508d00a.761b.ffff88e9@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <4B154518.7177.1230C64@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

They are not equivalent.

Date() always return midnight as the time part (i.e. it truncates the current datatime to a 
whole number),  Now() always returns the current time including the decimal part, 

They may look the same in a textbox depending on the formatting, but try doing "equals" 
comparisons on the fields to select for a date and you will have all sorts of problems.

On 1 Dec 2009 at 16:16, Max Wanadoo wrote:

> Could your problem be a  leading space before the now() in the design.  I
> have always put date() in the design and General as type which is equiv of
> now() but never gives this error.
> 



From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 10:38:10 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 16:38:10 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()
In-Reply-To: <4B154518.7177.1230C64@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <4B1528E4.50806@colbyconsulting.com>,
	<B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E240FEF64@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>,
	<4b154195.0508d00a.761b.ffff88e9@mx.google.com>
	<4B154518.7177.1230C64@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <4b154697.1c05d00a.2069.ffffcbb8@mx.google.com>


Talking about format not  contents.
Read the  posting

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: 01 December 2009 16:32
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()

They are not equivalent.

Date() always return midnight as the time part (i.e. it truncates the
current datatime to a 
whole number),  Now() always returns the current time including the decimal
part, 

They may look the same in a textbox depending on the formatting, but try
doing "equals" 
comparisons on the fields to select for a date and you will have all sorts
of problems.

On 1 Dec 2009 at 16:16, Max Wanadoo wrote:

> Could your problem be a  leading space before the now() in the design.  I
> have always put date() in the design and General as type which is equiv of
> now() but never gives this error.
> 

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Dec  1 10:51:38 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:51:38 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()
In-Reply-To: <4b154697.1c05d00a.2069.ffffcbb8@mx.google.com>
References: <4B1528E4.50806@colbyconsulting.com>,
	<4B154518.7177.1230C64@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<4b154697.1c05d00a.2069.ffffcbb8@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <4B15499A.19731.134A9FA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Original question:

"I am seeing an issue in a linked table where the default value is set to
date()." 

That's contents, not format :-)


-- 
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On 1 Dec 2009 at 16:38, Max Wanadoo wrote:

> 
> Talking about format not  contents.
> Read the  posting
> 
> Max
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: 01 December 2009 16:32
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()
> 
> They are not equivalent.
> 
> Date() always return midnight as the time part (i.e. it truncates the
> current datatime to a 
> whole number),  Now() always returns the current time including the decimal
> part, 
> 
> They may look the same in a textbox depending on the formatting, but try
> doing "equals" 
> comparisons on the fields to select for a date and you will have all sorts
> of problems.
> 
> On 1 Dec 2009 at 16:16, Max Wanadoo wrote:
> 
> > Could your problem be a  leading space before the now() in the design.  I
> > have always put date() in the design and General as type which is equiv of
> > now() but never gives this error.
> > 
> 
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From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 10:55:33 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 16:55:33 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()
In-Reply-To: <4B15499A.19731.134A9FA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <4B1528E4.50806@colbyconsulting.com>,
	<4B154518.7177.1230C64@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<4b154697.1c05d00a.2069.ffffcbb8@mx.google.com>
	<4B15499A.19731.134A9FA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <4b154aad.0a04d00a.6a17.ffff9c8f@mx.google.com>

NOT on MY posting which is what I was referring to.

End of discussion

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: 01 December 2009 16:52
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()

Original question:

"I am seeing an issue in a linked table where the default value is set to
date()." 

That's contents, not format :-)


-- 
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On 1 Dec 2009 at 16:38, Max Wanadoo wrote:

> 
> Talking about format not  contents.
> Read the  posting
> 
> Max
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
> Sent: 01 December 2009 16:32
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()
> 
> They are not equivalent.
> 
> Date() always return midnight as the time part (i.e. it truncates the
> current datatime to a 
> whole number),  Now() always returns the current time including the
decimal
> part, 
> 
> They may look the same in a textbox depending on the formatting, but try
> doing "equals" 
> comparisons on the fields to select for a date and you will have all sorts
> of problems.
> 
> On 1 Dec 2009 at 16:16, Max Wanadoo wrote:
> 
> > Could your problem be a  leading space before the now() in the design.
I
> > have always put date() in the design and General as type which is equiv
of
> > now() but never gives this error.
> > 
> 
> -- 
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From Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com  Tue Dec  1 11:47:01 2009
From: Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 12:47:01 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()
In-Reply-To: <4b154aad.0a04d00a.6a17.ffff9c8f@mx.google.com>
References: <4B1528E4.50806@colbyconsulting.com>,
	<4B154518.7177.1230C64@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<4b154697.1c05d00a.2069.ffffcbb8@mx.google.com>
	<4B15499A.19731.134A9FA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<4b154aad.0a04d00a.6a17.ffff9c8f@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E240FF008@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>

You state " I have always put date() in the design and General as type which is equiv of now()" 

Critique:
	"General" is not a data type. It is  a format specification.
	The General format is not the equivalent of the function Now()
	You do not use the word "format" anywhere in your first post.
	Date() is not equiv [sic] of Now()

Please include <psychic powers> tags in future posts which do not talk about what you intend to talk about. :-)

Next discussion?

Lambert 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:56 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()

NOT on MY posting which is what I was referring to.

End of discussion

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: 01 December 2009 16:52
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()

Original question:

"I am seeing an issue in a linked table where the default value is set to date()." 

That's contents, not format :-)


--
Stuart

On 1 Dec 2009 at 16:38, Max Wanadoo wrote:

> 
> Talking about format not  contents.
> Read the  posting
> 
> Max
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
> Sent: 01 December 2009 16:32
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()
> 
> They are not equivalent.
> 
> Date() always return midnight as the time part (i.e. it truncates the 
> current datatime to a whole number),  Now() always returns the current 
> time including the
decimal
> part,
> 
> They may look the same in a textbox depending on the formatting, but 
> try doing "equals"
> comparisons on the fields to select for a date and you will have all 
> sorts of problems.
> 
> On 1 Dec 2009 at 16:16, Max Wanadoo wrote:
> 
> > Could your problem be a  leading space before the now() in the design.
I
> > have always put date() in the design and General as type which is 
> > equiv
of
> > now() but never gives this error.
> > 
> 
> --
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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Tue Dec  1 12:04:40 2009
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 10:04:40 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Label Printer
In-Reply-To: <0C2F2F2E52E14D23A715C878DC922A19@HAL9005>
References: <0C2F2F2E52E14D23A715C878DC922A19@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <81929AC676ED41E3987C7AFE2A143985@murphy3234aaf1>

Hi Rocky,

We have worked with both Dymo and Brother label printers. Both work well
with Access. I think the Brother printers are discounted by Office Depot and
possibly Newegg.

Doug 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 4:17 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; List
Subject: [AccessD] Label Printer

Dear List(s):

I have a client who wants a label printer - single labels off a roll. It
will be printing the label from a record in my database from a bound form.
So I want as simple as possible.  Haven't fooled with these for years.  Any
recommendations - cheap, simple, easy to drive from an Access app?

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 




From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 12:12:31 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 18:12:31 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()
In-Reply-To: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E240FF008@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
References: <4B1528E4.50806@colbyconsulting.com>,
	<4B154518.7177.1230C64@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<4b154697.1c05d00a.2069.ffffcbb8@mx.google.com>	<4B15499A.19731.134A9FA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>	<4b154aad.0a04d00a.6a17.ffff9c8f@mx.google.com>
	<B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E240FF008@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
Message-ID: <4b155cbe.0a04d00a.62de.ffffc20b@mx.google.com>

Oops.  Yes, see what you mean.

I have just Re-read my posting.  Guess that probably sounded very rude.
Sorry Stuart.

Apologies all round.  Didn't  mean to offend,  just  posted very quickly.
Much to do...little  time.



Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: 01 December 2009 17:47
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()

You state " I have always put date() in the design and General as type which
is equiv of now()" 

Critique:
	"General" is not a data type. It is  a format specification.
	The General format is not the equivalent of the function Now()
	You do not use the word "format" anywhere in your first post.
	Date() is not equiv [sic] of Now()

Please include <psychic powers> tags in future posts which do not talk about
what you intend to talk about. :-)

Next discussion?

Lambert 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:56 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()

NOT on MY posting which is what I was referring to.

End of discussion

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: 01 December 2009 16:52
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()

Original question:

"I am seeing an issue in a linked table where the default value is set to
date()." 

That's contents, not format :-)


--
Stuart

On 1 Dec 2009 at 16:38, Max Wanadoo wrote:

> 
> Talking about format not  contents.
> Read the  posting
> 
> Max
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
> Sent: 01 December 2009 16:32
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()
> 
> They are not equivalent.
> 
> Date() always return midnight as the time part (i.e. it truncates the 
> current datatime to a whole number),  Now() always returns the current 
> time including the
decimal
> part,
> 
> They may look the same in a textbox depending on the formatting, but 
> try doing "equals"
> comparisons on the fields to select for a date and you will have all 
> sorts of problems.
> 
> On 1 Dec 2009 at 16:16, Max Wanadoo wrote:
> 
> > Could your problem be a  leading space before the now() in the design.
I
> > have always put date() in the design and General as type which is 
> > equiv
of
> > now() but never gives this error.
> > 
> 
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From Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com  Tue Dec  1 12:17:11 2009
From: Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 13:17:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()
In-Reply-To: <4b155cbe.0a04d00a.62de.ffffc20b@mx.google.com>
References: <4B1528E4.50806@colbyconsulting.com>,
	<4B154518.7177.1230C64@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<4b154697.1c05d00a.2069.ffffcbb8@mx.google.com>
	<4B15499A.19731.134A9FA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<4b154aad.0a04d00a.6a17.ffff9c8f@mx.google.com>
	<B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E240FF008@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
	<4b155cbe.0a04d00a.62de.ffffc20b@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E240FF01D@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>

Been there and done that! 

You're forgiven. :-)

Lambert 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 1:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()

Oops.  Yes, see what you mean.

I have just Re-read my posting.  Guess that probably sounded very rude.
Sorry Stuart.

Apologies all round.  Didn't  mean to offend,  just  posted very quickly.
Much to do...little  time.



Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: 01 December 2009 17:47
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()

You state " I have always put date() in the design and General as type which is equiv of now()" 

Critique:
	"General" is not a data type. It is  a format specification.
	The General format is not the equivalent of the function Now()
	You do not use the word "format" anywhere in your first post.
	Date() is not equiv [sic] of Now()

Please include <psychic powers> tags in future posts which do not talk about what you intend to talk about. :-)

Next discussion?

Lambert 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:56 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()

NOT on MY posting which is what I was referring to.

End of discussion

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: 01 December 2009 16:52
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()

Original question:

"I am seeing an issue in a linked table where the default value is set to date()." 

That's contents, not format :-)


--
Stuart

On 1 Dec 2009 at 16:38, Max Wanadoo wrote:

> 
> Talking about format not  contents.
> Read the  posting
> 
> Max
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
> Sent: 01 December 2009 16:32
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()
> 
> They are not equivalent.
> 
> Date() always return midnight as the time part (i.e. it truncates the 
> current datatime to a whole number),  Now() always returns the current 
> time including the
decimal
> part,
> 
> They may look the same in a textbox depending on the formatting, but 
> try doing "equals"
> comparisons on the fields to select for a date and you will have all 
> sorts of problems.
> 
> On 1 Dec 2009 at 16:16, Max Wanadoo wrote:
> 
> > Could your problem be a  leading space before the now() in the design.
I
> > have always put date() in the design and General as type which is 
> > equiv
of
> > now() but never gives this error.
> > 
> 
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From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 12:29:44 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 18:29:44 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()
In-Reply-To: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E240FF01D@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
References: <4B1528E4.50806@colbyconsulting.com>,
	<4B154518.7177.1230C64@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<4b154697.1c05d00a.2069.ffffcbb8@mx.google.com>	<4B15499A.19731.134A9FA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>	<4b154aad.0a04d00a.6a17.ffff9c8f@mx.google.com>	<B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E240FF008@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>	<4b155cbe.0a04d00a.62de.ffffc20b@mx.google.com>
	<B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E240FF01D@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
Message-ID: <4b1560cb.1c05d00a.2092.0430@mx.google.com>

Ta mucho.

Apologies again.

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: 01 December 2009 18:17
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()

Been there and done that! 

You're forgiven. :-)

Lambert 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 1:13 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()

Oops.  Yes, see what you mean.

I have just Re-read my posting.  Guess that probably sounded very rude.
Sorry Stuart.

Apologies all round.  Didn't  mean to offend,  just  posted very quickly.
Much to do...little  time.



Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: 01 December 2009 17:47
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()

You state " I have always put date() in the design and General as type which
is equiv of now()" 

Critique:
	"General" is not a data type. It is  a format specification.
	The General format is not the equivalent of the function Now()
	You do not use the word "format" anywhere in your first post.
	Date() is not equiv [sic] of Now()

Please include <psychic powers> tags in future posts which do not talk about
what you intend to talk about. :-)

Next discussion?

Lambert 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:56 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()

NOT on MY posting which is what I was referring to.

End of discussion

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: 01 December 2009 16:52
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()

Original question:

"I am seeing an issue in a linked table where the default value is set to
date()." 

That's contents, not format :-)


--
Stuart

On 1 Dec 2009 at 16:38, Max Wanadoo wrote:

> 
> Talking about format not  contents.
> Read the  posting
> 
> Max
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
> Sent: 01 December 2009 16:32
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP (2002) - unknown function name date()
> 
> They are not equivalent.
> 
> Date() always return midnight as the time part (i.e. it truncates the 
> current datatime to a whole number),  Now() always returns the current 
> time including the
decimal
> part,
> 
> They may look the same in a textbox depending on the formatting, but 
> try doing "equals"
> comparisons on the fields to select for a date and you will have all 
> sorts of problems.
> 
> On 1 Dec 2009 at 16:16, Max Wanadoo wrote:
> 
> > Could your problem be a  leading space before the now() in the design.
I
> > have always put date() in the design and General as type which is 
> > equiv
of
> > now() but never gives this error.
> > 
> 
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From john at winhaven.net  Tue Dec  1 14:37:21 2009
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 14:37:21 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Label Printer
In-Reply-To: <0C2F2F2E52E14D23A715C878DC922A19@HAL9005>
References: <0C2F2F2E52E14D23A715C878DC922A19@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <03cb01ca72c6$1508a6a0$3f19f3e0$@net>

Hi Rocky,
I've used Dymo and Seiko label printers. Dymos are easy and readily
available. A number of B&M carry them and the supplies plus many web
vendors. Dymo has a free developers download with samples.

HTH 
John B



From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Dec  1 15:36:07 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 13:36:07 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Label Printer
In-Reply-To: <03cb01ca72c6$1508a6a0$3f19f3e0$@net>
References: <0C2F2F2E52E14D23A715C878DC922A19@HAL9005>
	<03cb01ca72c6$1508a6a0$3f19f3e0$@net>
Message-ID: <FC6AE28EEC0049B6A61886CDD60025F5@HAL9005>

Just picked up a Dymo at Staples.  Doug Murphy told me just install like a
printer, make the label as a report, and print to that printer and shazam -
label.  I'll let you know if it turns out to be that easy.

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 12:37 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Label Printer

Hi Rocky,
I've used Dymo and Seiko label printers. Dymos are easy and readily
available. A number of B&M carry them and the supplies plus many web
vendors. Dymo has a free developers download with samples.

HTH
John B

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Dec  1 16:40:24 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 08:40:24 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Label Printer
In-Reply-To: <FC6AE28EEC0049B6A61886CDD60025F5@HAL9005>
References: <0C2F2F2E52E14D23A715C878DC922A19@HAL9005>,
	<03cb01ca72c6$1508a6a0$3f19f3e0$@net>,
	<FC6AE28EEC0049B6A61886CDD60025F5@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <4B159B58.18504.273F533@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

But remember Murphy's Law :-)

On 1 Dec 2009 at 13:36, Rocky Smolin wrote:

> Just picked up a Dymo at Staples.  Doug Murphy told me ...



From robert at servicexp.com  Tue Dec  1 16:47:55 2009
From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 17:47:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Label Printer
In-Reply-To: <FC6AE28EEC0049B6A61886CDD60025F5@HAL9005>
References: <0C2F2F2E52E14D23A715C878DC922A19@HAL9005>	<03cb01ca72c6$1508a6a0$3f19f3e0$@net>
	<FC6AE28EEC0049B6A61886CDD60025F5@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <000301ca72d8$55228af0$ff67a0d0$@com>

Rocky,
 It is exactly that easy...:-). 

WBR
Robert


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:36 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Label Printer

Just picked up a Dymo at Staples.  Doug Murphy told me just install like a
printer, make the label as a report, and print to that printer and shazam -
label.  I'll let you know if it turns out to be that easy.

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 12:37 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Label Printer

Hi Rocky,
I've used Dymo and Seiko label printers. Dymos are easy and readily
available. A number of B&M carry them and the supplies plus many web
vendors. Dymo has a free developers download with samples.

HTH
John B

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From marksimms at verizon.net  Tue Dec  1 20:45:27 2009
From: marksimms at verizon.net (Mark Simms)
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:45:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2010 - Publish To Sharepoint
In-Reply-To: <4dd71a0c0911301800m76595b48vef087987a239a9ee@mail.gmail.com>
References: <sb123e6f.082@cactus.dk> <004301ca716a$e7ea3b40$0601a8c0@MSIMMSWS>
	<00AFD31CEF5A40A99594A0410AF1E14A@stevePC>
	<4dd71a0c0911301800m76595b48vef087987a239a9ee@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001ca72f9$8188a680$0601a8c0@MSIMMSWS>

Doug - what you need to get is this:
Business Productivity Online Standard Suite
It's Microsoft's own hosted sharepoint service offering.
This level will cost you about $25 per month.
A bit more if you need more storage.
https://mocp.microsoftonline.com/site/ProductCatalogPreSignin.aspx
This level will support the services necessary for Access to read/write
sharepoint lists.
It's a heckuva bargain IMHO....and I think they put a lot of 3rd party
hosting services
out of business as a result of the pricing.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Steele
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 9:00 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2010 - Publish To Sharepoint
>
> Steve, while we're on the topic, is my understanding correct
> that in order to create Access web apps, you will need to buy
> Sharepoint Server at a price around $40,000?  I had a look at
> the pricing structure and it was pretty confusing.
>
> Thanks,
> Doug Steele
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Steve Schapel
> <miscellany at mvps.org> wrote:
>
> > You are correct, Mark.  You can't use VBA with Access web
> > applications.  As far as I know, there has never been any
> suggestion
> > that you would be able to.  You need to use macros.  Even
> then, there
> > are macro actions that are not available in web apps.  Just
> like there
> > is other functionality that we take for granted in client apps, but
> > they are not available in web apps - lots of query stuff
> for example.
> > It definitely requires quite a change of mindset, if you
> decide you want to use this aspect of Access.
> >
> > Regards
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "Mark Simms" <marksimms at verizon.net>
> > Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 4:12 PM
> > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Subject: [AccessD] Access 2010 - Publish To Sharepoint
> >
> > > Just learned this:
> > > Still no VBA conversion support.
> > > Very disappointing.
> > > It appears to be "by design".
> > > Dreams of "design and code in Access", then "publish to
> web"....are
> > > just that.
> > >
> > > Corporate mandates of "MS Access is banned" will remain
> in-force IMHO.
> >
> >
> > --
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> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
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>





From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Dec  1 21:04:08 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:04:08 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2010 - Publish To Sharepoint
In-Reply-To: <000001ca72f9$8188a680$0601a8c0@MSIMMSWS>
References: <sb123e6f.082@cactus.dk>
	<004301ca716a$e7ea3b40$0601a8c0@MSIMMSWS>	<00AFD31CEF5A40A99594A0410AF1E14A@stevePC>	<4dd71a0c0911301800m76595b48vef087987a239a9ee@mail.gmail.com>
	<000001ca72f9$8188a680$0601a8c0@MSIMMSWS>
Message-ID: <4B15D928.60802@colbyconsulting.com>

Ah c'mon.  I think we all oughta chip in and buy a Sharepoint Server License.  What's 40K between 
friends?

;)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Mark Simms wrote:
> Doug - what you need to get is this:
> Business Productivity Online Standard Suite
> It's Microsoft's own hosted sharepoint service offering.
> This level will cost you about $25 per month.
> A bit more if you need more storage.
> https://mocp.microsoftonline.com/site/ProductCatalogPreSignin.aspx
> This level will support the services necessary for Access to read/write
> sharepoint lists.
> It's a heckuva bargain IMHO....and I think they put a lot of 3rd party
> hosting services
> out of business as a result of the pricing.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Steele
>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 9:00 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2010 - Publish To Sharepoint
>>
>> Steve, while we're on the topic, is my understanding correct
>> that in order to create Access web apps, you will need to buy
>> Sharepoint Server at a price around $40,000?  I had a look at
>> the pricing structure and it was pretty confusing.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Doug Steele
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Steve Schapel
>> <miscellany at mvps.org> wrote:
>>
>>> You are correct, Mark.  You can't use VBA with Access web
>>> applications.  As far as I know, there has never been any
>> suggestion
>>> that you would be able to.  You need to use macros.  Even
>> then, there
>>> are macro actions that are not available in web apps.  Just
>> like there
>>> is other functionality that we take for granted in client apps, but
>>> they are not available in web apps - lots of query stuff
>> for example.
>>> It definitely requires quite a change of mindset, if you
>> decide you want to use this aspect of Access.
>>> Regards
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Mark Simms" <marksimms at verizon.net>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 4:12 PM
>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Subject: [AccessD] Access 2010 - Publish To Sharepoint
>>>
>>>> Just learned this:
>>>> Still no VBA conversion support.
>>>> Very disappointing.
>>>> It appears to be "by design".
>>>> Dreams of "design and code in Access", then "publish to
>> web"....are
>>>> just that.
>>>>
>>>> Corporate mandates of "MS Access is banned" will remain
>> in-force IMHO.
>>>
>>> --
>>> AccessD mailing list
>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>> --
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>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
> 
> 
> 


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Dec  1 21:43:33 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 19:43:33 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2010 - Publish To Sharepoint
In-Reply-To: <4B15D928.60802@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <sb123e6f.082@cactus.dk><004301ca716a$e7ea3b40$0601a8c0@MSIMMSWS>	<00AFD31CEF5A40A99594A0410AF1E14A@stevePC>	<4dd71a0c0911301800m76595b48vef087987a239a9ee@mail.gmail.com><000001ca72f9$8188a680$0601a8c0@MSIMMSWS>
	<4B15D928.60802@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <F0D97C57AD134E4389ECE4EB5A91700E@HAL9005>

How many friends? 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:04 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2010 - Publish To Sharepoint

Ah c'mon.  I think we all oughta chip in and buy a Sharepoint Server
License.  What's 40K between friends?

;)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Mark Simms wrote:
> Doug - what you need to get is this:
> Business Productivity Online Standard Suite It's Microsoft's own 
> hosted sharepoint service offering.
> This level will cost you about $25 per month.
> A bit more if you need more storage.
> https://mocp.microsoftonline.com/site/ProductCatalogPreSignin.aspx
> This level will support the services necessary for Access to 
> read/write sharepoint lists.
> It's a heckuva bargain IMHO....and I think they put a lot of 3rd party 
> hosting services out of business as a result of the pricing.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug 
>> Steele
>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 9:00 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2010 - Publish To Sharepoint
>>
>> Steve, while we're on the topic, is my understanding correct that in 
>> order to create Access web apps, you will need to buy Sharepoint 
>> Server at a price around $40,000?  I had a look at the pricing 
>> structure and it was pretty confusing.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Doug Steele
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Steve Schapel <miscellany at mvps.org> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You are correct, Mark.  You can't use VBA with Access web 
>>> applications.  As far as I know, there has never been any
>> suggestion
>>> that you would be able to.  You need to use macros.  Even
>> then, there
>>> are macro actions that are not available in web apps.  Just
>> like there
>>> is other functionality that we take for granted in client apps, but 
>>> they are not available in web apps - lots of query stuff
>> for example.
>>> It definitely requires quite a change of mindset, if you
>> decide you want to use this aspect of Access.
>>> Regards
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Mark Simms" <marksimms at verizon.net>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 4:12 PM
>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Subject: [AccessD] Access 2010 - Publish To Sharepoint
>>>
>>>> Just learned this:
>>>> Still no VBA conversion support.
>>>> Very disappointing.
>>>> It appears to be "by design".
>>>> Dreams of "design and code in Access", then "publish to
>> web"....are
>>>> just that.
>>>>
>>>> Corporate mandates of "MS Access is banned" will remain
>> in-force IMHO.
>>>
>>> --
>>> AccessD mailing list
>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>> --
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>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
> 
> 
> 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Dec  1 21:57:47 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:57:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2010 - Publish To Sharepoint
In-Reply-To: <F0D97C57AD134E4389ECE4EB5A91700E@HAL9005>
References: <sb123e6f.082@cactus.dk><004301ca716a$e7ea3b40$0601a8c0@MSIMMSWS>	<00AFD31CEF5A40A99594A0410AF1E14A@stevePC>	<4dd71a0c0911301800m76595b48vef087987a239a9ee@mail.gmail.com><000001ca72f9$8188a680$0601a8c0@MSIMMSWS>	<4B15D928.60802@colbyconsulting.com>
	<F0D97C57AD134E4389ECE4EB5A91700E@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <4B15E5BB.6040004@colbyconsulting.com>

Well, if we got 5 guys together, that would be a dollar for me and $10K for each of you.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Rocky Smolin wrote:
> How many friends? 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:04 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2010 - Publish To Sharepoint
> 
> Ah c'mon.  I think we all oughta chip in and buy a Sharepoint Server
> License.  What's 40K between friends?
> 
> ;)
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> 
> Mark Simms wrote:
>> Doug - what you need to get is this:
>> Business Productivity Online Standard Suite It's Microsoft's own 
>> hosted sharepoint service offering.
>> This level will cost you about $25 per month.
>> A bit more if you need more storage.
>> https://mocp.microsoftonline.com/site/ProductCatalogPreSignin.aspx
>> This level will support the services necessary for Access to 
>> read/write sharepoint lists.
>> It's a heckuva bargain IMHO....and I think they put a lot of 3rd party 
>> hosting services out of business as a result of the pricing.
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug 
>>> Steele
>>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 9:00 PM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2010 - Publish To Sharepoint
>>>
>>> Steve, while we're on the topic, is my understanding correct that in 
>>> order to create Access web apps, you will need to buy Sharepoint 
>>> Server at a price around $40,000?  I had a look at the pricing 
>>> structure and it was pretty confusing.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Doug Steele
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Steve Schapel <miscellany at mvps.org> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You are correct, Mark.  You can't use VBA with Access web 
>>>> applications.  As far as I know, there has never been any
>>> suggestion
>>>> that you would be able to.  You need to use macros.  Even
>>> then, there
>>>> are macro actions that are not available in web apps.  Just
>>> like there
>>>> is other functionality that we take for granted in client apps, but 
>>>> they are not available in web apps - lots of query stuff
>>> for example.
>>>> It definitely requires quite a change of mindset, if you
>>> decide you want to use this aspect of Access.
>>>> Regards
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Mark Simms" <marksimms at verizon.net>
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 4:12 PM
>>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>> Subject: [AccessD] Access 2010 - Publish To Sharepoint
>>>>
>>>>> Just learned this:
>>>>> Still no VBA conversion support.
>>>>> Very disappointing.
>>>>> It appears to be "by design".
>>>>> Dreams of "design and code in Access", then "publish to
>>> web"....are
>>>>> just that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Corporate mandates of "MS Access is banned" will remain
>>> in-force IMHO.
>>>> --
>>>> AccessD mailing list
>>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>>
>>> --
>>> AccessD mailing list
>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>>
>>
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Dec  1 22:07:36 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 20:07:36 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2010 - Publish To Sharepoint
In-Reply-To: <4B15E5BB.6040004@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <sb123e6f.082@cactus.dk><004301ca716a$e7ea3b40$0601a8c0@MSIMMSWS>	<00AFD31CEF5A40A99594A0410AF1E14A@stevePC>	<4dd71a0c0911301800m76595b48vef087987a239a9ee@mail.gmail.com><000001ca72f9$8188a680$0601a8c0@MSIMMSWS>	<4B15D928.60802@colbyconsulting.com><F0D97C57AD134E4389ECE4EB5A91700E@HAL9005>
	<4B15E5BB.6040004@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <60463B6DDC904335AE7CC19D7CFA4FBA@HAL9005>

Seems fair...(ok all you guys with the ten k form a double line over there
by the door.  No shoving, please....) 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:58 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2010 - Publish To Sharepoint

Well, if we got 5 guys together, that would be a dollar for me and $10K for
each of you.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Rocky Smolin wrote:
> How many friends? 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:04 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2010 - Publish To Sharepoint
> 
> Ah c'mon.  I think we all oughta chip in and buy a Sharepoint Server 
> License.  What's 40K between friends?
> 
> ;)
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> 
> Mark Simms wrote:
>> Doug - what you need to get is this:
>> Business Productivity Online Standard Suite It's Microsoft's own 
>> hosted sharepoint service offering.
>> This level will cost you about $25 per month.
>> A bit more if you need more storage.
>> https://mocp.microsoftonline.com/site/ProductCatalogPreSignin.aspx
>> This level will support the services necessary for Access to 
>> read/write sharepoint lists.
>> It's a heckuva bargain IMHO....and I think they put a lot of 3rd 
>> party hosting services out of business as a result of the pricing.
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug 
>>> Steele
>>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 9:00 PM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2010 - Publish To Sharepoint
>>>
>>> Steve, while we're on the topic, is my understanding correct that in 
>>> order to create Access web apps, you will need to buy Sharepoint 
>>> Server at a price around $40,000?  I had a look at the pricing 
>>> structure and it was pretty confusing.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Doug Steele
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Steve Schapel <miscellany at mvps.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You are correct, Mark.  You can't use VBA with Access web 
>>>> applications.  As far as I know, there has never been any
>>> suggestion
>>>> that you would be able to.  You need to use macros.  Even
>>> then, there
>>>> are macro actions that are not available in web apps.  Just
>>> like there
>>>> is other functionality that we take for granted in client apps, but 
>>>> they are not available in web apps - lots of query stuff
>>> for example.
>>>> It definitely requires quite a change of mindset, if you
>>> decide you want to use this aspect of Access.
>>>> Regards
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Mark Simms" <marksimms at verizon.net>
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 4:12 PM
>>>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>>>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>> Subject: [AccessD] Access 2010 - Publish To Sharepoint
>>>>
>>>>> Just learned this:
>>>>> Still no VBA conversion support.
>>>>> Very disappointing.
>>>>> It appears to be "by design".
>>>>> Dreams of "design and code in Access", then "publish to
>>> web"....are
>>>>> just that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Corporate mandates of "MS Access is banned" will remain
>>> in-force IMHO.
>>>> --
>>>> AccessD mailing list
>>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
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From dbdoug at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 23:17:47 2009
From: dbdoug at gmail.com (Doug Steele)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 21:17:47 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2010 - Publish To Sharepoint
In-Reply-To: <000001ca72f9$8188a680$0601a8c0@MSIMMSWS>
References: <sb123e6f.082@cactus.dk> <004301ca716a$e7ea3b40$0601a8c0@MSIMMSWS>
	<00AFD31CEF5A40A99594A0410AF1E14A@stevePC>
	<4dd71a0c0911301800m76595b48vef087987a239a9ee@mail.gmail.com>
	<000001ca72f9$8188a680$0601a8c0@MSIMMSWS>
Message-ID: <4dd71a0c0912012117t465f0af3xbc5a3cb925d02384@mail.gmail.com>

Just out of curiosity I tried to check out the site you mention, and got
this message:

"We?re sorry, there are no services for trial or purchase currently
available for your country or region"

Oh darn, one more item to add to the Canadian no-go list (Hulu, Amazon
music, etc etc).

Doug

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Mark Simms <marksimms at verizon.net> wrote:

> Doug - what you need to get is this:
> Business Productivity Online Standard Suite
> It's Microsoft's own hosted sharepoint service offering.
> This level will cost you about $25 per month.
> A bit more if you need more storage.
> https://mocp.microsoftonline.com/site/ProductCatalogPreSignin.aspx
> This level will support the services necessary for Access to read/write
> sharepoint lists.
> It's a heckuva bargain IMHO....and I think they put a lot of 3rd party
> hosting services
> out of business as a result of the pricing.
>
>


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Dec  2 01:34:28 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 08:34:28 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2010 - Publish To Sharepoint
Message-ID: <sb1626b9.047@cactus.dk>

Hi Mark and Doug

Same here. No go. Seems to be a US thing only.

/gustav

>>> dbdoug at gmail.com 02-12-2009 06:17 >>>
Just out of curiosity I tried to check out the site you mention, and got
this message:

"We're sorry, there are no services for trial or purchase currently
available for your country or region"

Oh darn, one more item to add to the Canadian no-go list (Hulu, Amazon
music, etc etc).

Doug

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Mark Simms <marksimms at verizon.net> wrote:

> Doug - what you need to get is this:
> Business Productivity Online Standard Suite
> It's Microsoft's own hosted sharepoint service offering.
> This level will cost you about $25 per month.
> A bit more if you need more storage.
> https://mocp.microsoftonline.com/site/ProductCatalogPreSignin.aspx 
> This level will support the services necessary for Access to read/write
> sharepoint lists.
> It's a heckuva bargain IMHO....and I think they put a lot of 3rd party
> hosting services out of business as a result of the pricing.




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Dec  2 09:57:49 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:57:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2010 - Publish To Sharepoint
In-Reply-To: <sb1626b9.047@cactus.dk>
References: <sb1626b9.047@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <4B168E7D.6080509@colbyconsulting.com>

I'm telling you, a few of us (you) with 10K each... ;)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi Mark and Doug
> 
> Same here. No go. Seems to be a US thing only.
> 
> /gustav
> 
>>>> dbdoug at gmail.com 02-12-2009 06:17 >>>
> Just out of curiosity I tried to check out the site you mention, and got
> this message:
> 
> "We're sorry, there are no services for trial or purchase currently
> available for your country or region"
> 
> Oh darn, one more item to add to the Canadian no-go list (Hulu, Amazon
> music, etc etc).
> 
> Doug
> 
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Mark Simms <marksimms at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
>> Doug - what you need to get is this:
>> Business Productivity Online Standard Suite
>> It's Microsoft's own hosted sharepoint service offering.
>> This level will cost you about $25 per month.
>> A bit more if you need more storage.
>> https://mocp.microsoftonline.com/site/ProductCatalogPreSignin.aspx 
>> This level will support the services necessary for Access to read/write
>> sharepoint lists.
>> It's a heckuva bargain IMHO....and I think they put a lot of 3rd party
>> hosting services out of business as a result of the pricing.
> 
> 


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Dec  2 11:47:57 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 12:47:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop
Message-ID: <4B16A84D.5070404@colbyconsulting.com>

I have a 22" 1680 x 1050 display hooked up to a KVM switch.  I work on my laptop almost exclusively 
*except* for my servers (the point of the KVM switch).  But I am developing  problem in my right 
elbow which I think might be related to mousing at an odd angle.  So I decided that perhaps using 
the monitor on my laptop might be the answer, then use remote desktop to switch between them rather 
than a KVM switch.  Plus, I have always wanted to do the dual monitor thing, leave my email and 
billing db on one screen and other stuff on the other.  Or code on one and program on the other.

Things are NEVER simple.  RD comes up in the resolution of monitor one.  Plus, if I am going to do 
this the big screen really should be the monitor one right?  Except that typing and mousing off to 
the side of the main monitor is just weird!  But I don't have a native USB keyboard to plug in to 
the laptop (gonna go order that now).  Etc. Etc.

The monitor itself is cool, looks good, works just fine with the laptop (as opposed to a few years 
back when I tried this - different laptop).  Technology has advanced, easier to set up, still feels 
strange.

Well, gotta go to work and give this dual monitor thing a shot.

I know others here do this, how long did it take your brain to adjust?

-- 
John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


From dbdoug at gmail.com  Wed Dec  2 12:07:02 2009
From: dbdoug at gmail.com (Doug Steele)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 10:07:02 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop
In-Reply-To: <4B16A84D.5070404@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B16A84D.5070404@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <4dd71a0c0912021007h451bdb97i7380a6593630e210@mail.gmail.com>

I have dual monitors set up on my desktop, plus a laptop on a desk extension
at right angles to my main desk.  When I need to use the laptop, I swivel
around so that the laptop keyboard/mouse is in a comfortable position.

I couldn't get along at all doing development work without two monitors on
my main machine.

Actually, my setup has drifted into excess - I also have a second monitor
attached to my laptop (so I have a total of 4 screens visible) which I use
for stuff that doesn't change a lot, like my to-do list and time log.  I
could get along without that, but I acquired the extra monitor and I figured
I might as well use it.

If your mousing is causing you grief, you could train yourself to use it
with your left hand - I did that for a while a few years ago, and I've seen
other people do it - it doesn't take that long.

Doug

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:47 AM, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:

> I have a 22" 1680 x 1050 display hooked up to a KVM switch.  I work on my
> laptop almost exclusively
> *except* for my servers (the point of the KVM switch).  But I am developing
>  problem in my right
> elbow which I think might be related to mousing at an odd angle.  So I
> decided that perhaps using
> the monitor on my laptop might be the answer, then use remote desktop to
> switch between them rather
> than a KVM switch.  Plus, I have always wanted to do the dual monitor
> thing, leave my email and
> billing db on one screen and other stuff on the other.  Or code on one and
> program on the other.
>
> Things are NEVER simple.  RD comes up in the resolution of monitor one.
>  Plus, if I am going to do
> this the big screen really should be the monitor one right?  Except that
> typing and mousing off to
> the side of the main monitor is just weird!  But I don't have a native USB
> keyboard to plug in to
> the laptop (gonna go order that now).  Etc. Etc.
>
> The monitor itself is cool, looks good, works just fine with the laptop (as
> opposed to a few years
> back when I tried this - different laptop).  Technology has advanced,
> easier to set up, still feels
> strange.
>
> Well, gotta go to work and give this dual monitor thing a shot.
>
> I know others here do this, how long did it take your brain to adjust?
>
> --
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
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>


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Dec  2 12:06:15 2009
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:06:15 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop
In-Reply-To: <4B16A84D.5070404@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B16A84D.5070404@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E328DF5C8@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>

I don't do it with my laptop, but all of our development team have at least two monitors on their desks.  As long as the left one is monitor one, I have no trouble and never had.  It's only when things come up unexpectedly in one monitor when I was looking for it in another that I drop a stitch.  It's nice to be able to stretch VS across both monitors.

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop

I have a 22" 1680 x 1050 display hooked up to a KVM switch.  I work on my laptop almost exclusively
*except* for my servers (the point of the KVM switch).  But I am developing  problem in my right elbow which I think might be related to mousing at an odd angle.  So I decided that perhaps using the monitor on my laptop might be the answer, then use remote desktop to switch between them rather than a KVM switch.  Plus, I have always wanted to do the dual monitor thing, leave my email and billing db on one screen and other stuff on the other.  Or code on one and program on the other.

Things are NEVER simple.  RD comes up in the resolution of monitor one.  Plus, if I am going to do this the big screen really should be the monitor one right?  Except that typing and mousing off to the side of the main monitor is just weird!  But I don't have a native USB keyboard to plug in to the laptop (gonna go order that now).  Etc. Etc.

The monitor itself is cool, looks good, works just fine with the laptop (as opposed to a few years back when I tried this - different laptop).  Technology has advanced, easier to set up, still feels strange.

Well, gotta go to work and give this dual monitor thing a shot.

I know others here do this, how long did it take your brain to adjust?

--
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www.ColbyConsulting.com
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Dec  2 12:33:09 2009
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:33:09 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop
In-Reply-To: <4B16A84D.5070404@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B16A84D.5070404@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E328DF5FD@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>

With regard to the elbow issue, if you're stretching your arm way out to the side, that can definitely cause problems.  I use a keyboard drawer with a mouse surface on my work machine.  That lets me keep my arm closer to my body.  I used to use the desktop but that hurt.  You might also try a gyro mouse, which I really like, but unfortunately when one of the gyros gives out, you can only mouse either vertically or horizontally depending on which one died.  While they work, they're great though!

I also reverse the buttons on my regular mouse to avoid the repetitive stress on my forefinger from left clicking.  That eases my arthritis and provides endless entertainment when someone else tries to use the mouse!  LOL

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop

I have a 22" 1680 x 1050 display hooked up to a KVM switch.  I work on my laptop almost exclusively
*except* for my servers (the point of the KVM switch).  But I am developing  problem in my right elbow which I think might be related to mousing at an odd angle.  So I decided that perhaps using the monitor on my laptop might be the answer, then use remote desktop to switch between them rather than a KVM switch.  Plus, I have always wanted to do the dual monitor thing, leave my email and billing db on one screen and other stuff on the other.  Or code on one and program on the other.

Things are NEVER simple.  RD comes up in the resolution of monitor one.  Plus, if I am going to do this the big screen really should be the monitor one right?  Except that typing and mousing off to the side of the main monitor is just weird!  But I don't have a native USB keyboard to plug in to the laptop (gonna go order that now).  Etc. Etc.

The monitor itself is cool, looks good, works just fine with the laptop (as opposed to a few years back when I tried this - different laptop).  Technology has advanced, easier to set up, still feels strange.

Well, gotta go to work and give this dual monitor thing a shot.

I know others here do this, how long did it take your brain to adjust?

--
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www.ColbyConsulting.com
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Dec  2 12:38:17 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:38:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop
In-Reply-To: <4dd71a0c0912021007h451bdb97i7380a6593630e210@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4B16A84D.5070404@colbyconsulting.com>
	<4dd71a0c0912021007h451bdb97i7380a6593630e210@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B16B419.2020402@colbyconsulting.com>

 >If your mousing is causing you grief, you could train yourself to use it
with your left hand

I am considering doing this.  Unfortunately my left arm is kinda mangled from a motorcycle accident 
20 years ago, and it might not be a good idea to stress it further.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Doug Steele wrote:
> I have dual monitors set up on my desktop, plus a laptop on a desk extension
> at right angles to my main desk.  When I need to use the laptop, I swivel
> around so that the laptop keyboard/mouse is in a comfortable position.
> 
> I couldn't get along at all doing development work without two monitors on
> my main machine.
> 
> Actually, my setup has drifted into excess - I also have a second monitor
> attached to my laptop (so I have a total of 4 screens visible) which I use
> for stuff that doesn't change a lot, like my to-do list and time log.  I
> could get along without that, but I acquired the extra monitor and I figured
> I might as well use it.
> 
> If your mousing is causing you grief, you could train yourself to use it
> with your left hand - I did that for a while a few years ago, and I've seen
> other people do it - it doesn't take that long.
> 
> Doug
> 
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:47 AM, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> 
>> I have a 22" 1680 x 1050 display hooked up to a KVM switch.  I work on my
>> laptop almost exclusively
>> *except* for my servers (the point of the KVM switch).  But I am developing
>>  problem in my right
>> elbow which I think might be related to mousing at an odd angle.  So I
>> decided that perhaps using
>> the monitor on my laptop might be the answer, then use remote desktop to
>> switch between them rather
>> than a KVM switch.  Plus, I have always wanted to do the dual monitor
>> thing, leave my email and
>> billing db on one screen and other stuff on the other.  Or code on one and
>> program on the other.
>>
>> Things are NEVER simple.  RD comes up in the resolution of monitor one.
>>  Plus, if I am going to do
>> this the big screen really should be the monitor one right?  Except that
>> typing and mousing off to
>> the side of the main monitor is just weird!  But I don't have a native USB
>> keyboard to plug in to
>> the laptop (gonna go order that now).  Etc. Etc.
>>
>> The monitor itself is cool, looks good, works just fine with the laptop (as
>> opposed to a few years
>> back when I tried this - different laptop).  Technology has advanced,
>> easier to set up, still feels
>> strange.
>>
>> Well, gotta go to work and give this dual monitor thing a shot.
>>
>> I know others here do this, how long did it take your brain to adjust?
>>
>> --
>> John W. Colby
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>> --
>> AccessD mailing list
>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Dec  2 12:44:02 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:44:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop
In-Reply-To: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E328DF5FD@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
References: <4B16A84D.5070404@colbyconsulting.com>
	<AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E328DF5FD@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
Message-ID: <4B16B572.8040407@colbyconsulting.com>

LOL.

I was stretching my arm straight out so no part was supported.  I am trying to work with the arm 
supported by the arm of the chair and the wrist on the mouse pad, no pressure on the elbow.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Charlotte Foust wrote:
> With regard to the elbow issue, if you're stretching your arm way out to the side, that can definitely cause problems.  I use a keyboard drawer with a mouse surface on my work machine.  That lets me keep my arm closer to my body.  I used to use the desktop but that hurt.  You might also try a gyro mouse, which I really like, but unfortunately when one of the gyros gives out, you can only mouse either vertically or horizontally depending on which one died.  While they work, they're great though!
> 
> I also reverse the buttons on my regular mouse to avoid the repetitive stress on my forefinger from left clicking.  That eases my arthritis and provides endless entertainment when someone else tries to use the mouse!  LOL
> 
> Charlotte Foust 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:48 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop
> 
> I have a 22" 1680 x 1050 display hooked up to a KVM switch.  I work on my laptop almost exclusively
> *except* for my servers (the point of the KVM switch).  But I am developing  problem in my right elbow which I think might be related to mousing at an odd angle.  So I decided that perhaps using the monitor on my laptop might be the answer, then use remote desktop to switch between them rather than a KVM switch.  Plus, I have always wanted to do the dual monitor thing, leave my email and billing db on one screen and other stuff on the other.  Or code on one and program on the other.
> 
> Things are NEVER simple.  RD comes up in the resolution of monitor one.  Plus, if I am going to do this the big screen really should be the monitor one right?  Except that typing and mousing off to the side of the main monitor is just weird!  But I don't have a native USB keyboard to plug in to the laptop (gonna go order that now).  Etc. Etc.
> 
> The monitor itself is cool, looks good, works just fine with the laptop (as opposed to a few years back when I tried this - different laptop).  Technology has advanced, easier to set up, still feels strange.
> 
> Well, gotta go to work and give this dual monitor thing a shot.
> 
> I know others here do this, how long did it take your brain to adjust?
> 
> --
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> --
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> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 


From jimdettman at verizon.net  Wed Dec  2 13:44:39 2009
From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:44:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop
In-Reply-To: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E328DF5FD@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
References: <4B16A84D.5070404@colbyconsulting.com>
	<AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E328DF5FD@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
Message-ID: <AFE828400DBF48559C5D4F32DECCD4D6@XPS>


  Not sure if you mean a track ball style of mouse or not:

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/159&cl=us
,en

Or an older model that I have:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001F42MKG/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=48
6539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00005NIMJ&pf_rd_m=ATVP
DKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1RNGECCXTHB7YNANVZ4Z

  If not, this would be another option.

Jim. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:33 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop

With regard to the elbow issue, if you're stretching your arm way out to the
side, that can definitely cause problems.  I use a keyboard drawer with a
mouse surface on my work machine.  That lets me keep my arm closer to my
body.  I used to use the desktop but that hurt.  You might also try a gyro
mouse, which I really like, but unfortunately when one of the gyros gives
out, you can only mouse either vertically or horizontally depending on which
one died.  While they work, they're great though!

I also reverse the buttons on my regular mouse to avoid the repetitive
stress on my forefinger from left clicking.  That eases my arthritis and
provides endless entertainment when someone else tries to use the mouse!
LOL

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop

I have a 22" 1680 x 1050 display hooked up to a KVM switch.  I work on my
laptop almost exclusively
*except* for my servers (the point of the KVM switch).  But I am developing
problem in my right elbow which I think might be related to mousing at an
odd angle.  So I decided that perhaps using the monitor on my laptop might
be the answer, then use remote desktop to switch between them rather than a
KVM switch.  Plus, I have always wanted to do the dual monitor thing, leave
my email and billing db on one screen and other stuff on the other.  Or code
on one and program on the other.

Things are NEVER simple.  RD comes up in the resolution of monitor one.
Plus, if I am going to do this the big screen really should be the monitor
one right?  Except that typing and mousing off to the side of the main
monitor is just weird!  But I don't have a native USB keyboard to plug in to
the laptop (gonna go order that now).  Etc. Etc.

The monitor itself is cool, looks good, works just fine with the laptop (as
opposed to a few years back when I tried this - different laptop).
Technology has advanced, easier to set up, still feels strange.

Well, gotta go to work and give this dual monitor thing a shot.

I know others here do this, how long did it take your brain to adjust?

--
John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com
--
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From davidmcafee at gmail.com  Wed Dec  2 14:02:21 2009
From: davidmcafee at gmail.com (David McAfee)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:02:21 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop
In-Reply-To: <AFE828400DBF48559C5D4F32DECCD4D6@XPS>
References: <4B16A84D.5070404@colbyconsulting.com>
	<AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E328DF5FD@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
	<AFE828400DBF48559C5D4F32DECCD4D6@XPS>
Message-ID: <8786a4c00912021202w1338f87bp77d0e1c8f92b07b8@mail.gmail.com>

That's my favorite! I've been using it for years.

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Jim Dettman <jimdettman at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> ?Not sure if you mean a track ball style of mouse or not:
>
> http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/159&cl=us,en
>
>
> Jim.
>



From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Dec  2 15:04:18 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 13:04:18 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop
In-Reply-To: <4B16A84D.5070404@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B16A84D.5070404@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <C94966A5D6F741C89CF750E18079C64B@HAL9005>

My left monitor is set to 800x600 and I do the form and report design on it.
Right monitor is higher res and I do the coding over there but I change the
size of the font so I make it big.  Both monitors are in front of me.  I can
drag stuff back and forth between them.  Took about 1 minute to get used to
it and about two minutes to figure out I could never go back. No KVM but an
add-in board to the desktop.  I fixed up another box here with duals,
though, using an external black box into a USB port.  

As for the mouse thing - I use a trackball - thumb - and support my arm on
the chair's armrest so my whole arm is relaxed and I'm not making all those
micro movements with my arm and my whole arm isn't tensed up all day.
Positioning your arm so it's relaxed would be the first thing I'd look at.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop

I have a 22" 1680 x 1050 display hooked up to a KVM switch.  I work on my
laptop almost exclusively
*except* for my servers (the point of the KVM switch).  But I am developing
problem in my right elbow which I think might be related to mousing at an
odd angle.  So I decided that perhaps using the monitor on my laptop might
be the answer, then use remote desktop to switch between them rather than a
KVM switch.  Plus, I have always wanted to do the dual monitor thing, leave
my email and billing db on one screen and other stuff on the other.  Or code
on one and program on the other.

Things are NEVER simple.  RD comes up in the resolution of monitor one.
Plus, if I am going to do this the big screen really should be the monitor
one right?  Except that typing and mousing off to the side of the main
monitor is just weird!  But I don't have a native USB keyboard to plug in to
the laptop (gonna go order that now).  Etc. Etc.

The monitor itself is cool, looks good, works just fine with the laptop (as
opposed to a few years back when I tried this - different laptop).
Technology has advanced, easier to set up, still feels strange.

Well, gotta go to work and give this dual monitor thing a shot.

I know others here do this, how long did it take your brain to adjust?

--
John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com
--
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Dec  2 15:15:36 2009
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 15:15:36 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop
In-Reply-To: <AFE828400DBF48559C5D4F32DECCD4D6@XPS>
References: <4B16A84D.5070404@colbyconsulting.com>
	<AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E328DF5FD@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
	<AFE828400DBF48559C5D4F32DECCD4D6@XPS>
Message-ID: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E328DF6C7@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>

Nope.  A gyro mouse doesn't need a pad.  You control the cursor by holding the mouse in your hand and moving it physically.  Quite a nifty toy.

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 11:45 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop


  Not sure if you mean a track ball style of mouse or not:

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/159&cl=us
,en

Or an older model that I have:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001F42MKG/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=48
6539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B00005NIMJ&pf_rd_m=ATVP
DKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1RNGECCXTHB7YNANVZ4Z

  If not, this would be another option.

Jim. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:33 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop

With regard to the elbow issue, if you're stretching your arm way out to the side, that can definitely cause problems.  I use a keyboard drawer with a mouse surface on my work machine.  That lets me keep my arm closer to my body.  I used to use the desktop but that hurt.  You might also try a gyro mouse, which I really like, but unfortunately when one of the gyros gives out, you can only mouse either vertically or horizontally depending on which one died.  While they work, they're great though!

I also reverse the buttons on my regular mouse to avoid the repetitive stress on my forefinger from left clicking.  That eases my arthritis and provides endless entertainment when someone else tries to use the mouse!
LOL

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop

I have a 22" 1680 x 1050 display hooked up to a KVM switch.  I work on my laptop almost exclusively
*except* for my servers (the point of the KVM switch).  But I am developing problem in my right elbow which I think might be related to mousing at an odd angle.  So I decided that perhaps using the monitor on my laptop might be the answer, then use remote desktop to switch between them rather than a KVM switch.  Plus, I have always wanted to do the dual monitor thing, leave my email and billing db on one screen and other stuff on the other.  Or code on one and program on the other.

Things are NEVER simple.  RD comes up in the resolution of monitor one.
Plus, if I am going to do this the big screen really should be the monitor one right?  Except that typing and mousing off to the side of the main monitor is just weird!  But I don't have a native USB keyboard to plug in to the laptop (gonna go order that now).  Etc. Etc.

The monitor itself is cool, looks good, works just fine with the laptop (as opposed to a few years back when I tried this - different laptop).
Technology has advanced, easier to set up, still feels strange.

Well, gotta go to work and give this dual monitor thing a shot.

I know others here do this, how long did it take your brain to adjust?

--
John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com
--



From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Dec  2 15:17:25 2009
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 15:17:25 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop
In-Reply-To: <C94966A5D6F741C89CF750E18079C64B@HAL9005>
References: <4B16A84D.5070404@colbyconsulting.com>
	<C94966A5D6F741C89CF750E18079C64B@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E328DF6C9@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>

I used trackballs years ago and gave up on them because THEY bothered my arthritis.  I got tendinitis in my thumb and the precision was never adequate for me.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:04 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop

My left monitor is set to 800x600 and I do the form and report design on it.
Right monitor is higher res and I do the coding over there but I change the size of the font so I make it big.  Both monitors are in front of me.  I can drag stuff back and forth between them.  Took about 1 minute to get used to it and about two minutes to figure out I could never go back. No KVM but an add-in board to the desktop.  I fixed up another box here with duals, though, using an external black box into a USB port.  

As for the mouse thing - I use a trackball - thumb - and support my arm on the chair's armrest so my whole arm is relaxed and I'm not making all those micro movements with my arm and my whole arm isn't tensed up all day.
Positioning your arm so it's relaxed would be the first thing I'd look at.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop

I have a 22" 1680 x 1050 display hooked up to a KVM switch.  I work on my laptop almost exclusively
*except* for my servers (the point of the KVM switch).  But I am developing problem in my right elbow which I think might be related to mousing at an odd angle.  So I decided that perhaps using the monitor on my laptop might be the answer, then use remote desktop to switch between them rather than a KVM switch.  Plus, I have always wanted to do the dual monitor thing, leave my email and billing db on one screen and other stuff on the other.  Or code on one and program on the other.

Things are NEVER simple.  RD comes up in the resolution of monitor one.
Plus, if I am going to do this the big screen really should be the monitor one right?  Except that typing and mousing off to the side of the main monitor is just weird!  But I don't have a native USB keyboard to plug in to the laptop (gonna go order that now).  Etc. Etc.

The monitor itself is cool, looks good, works just fine with the laptop (as opposed to a few years back when I tried this - different laptop).
Technology has advanced, easier to set up, still feels strange.

Well, gotta go to work and give this dual monitor thing a shot.

I know others here do this, how long did it take your brain to adjust?

--
John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com
--



From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Wed Dec  2 16:56:49 2009
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 17:56:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop
In-Reply-To: <4B16A84D.5070404@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B16A84D.5070404@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <CE50331AB1A94D4B8F8B672C324B340A@jislaptopdev>

1) ...after developing severe cts (all the way into my neck, doc recommended 
severing a wrist tendon) I switched to a Logitech track ball set up for my 
left hand ...took a few minutes to get used to it ...the track ball sets on 
a well padded arm of the recliner I do all of my home/office work from 
...the arm and wrist rarely move in using it ...the cts disappeared within 
days with no surgery and no recurrence ...the only time I use a regular 
mouse these days is when I need extra fine mouse control for graphics work 
...I also found that once the cts was gone, I could use the track ball 
easily with either hand when work in a clients office necessitates such.

2) ...I now do ALL of my work on a Dell laptop ...it has an ATI Radeon 
Graphics chip set which allows me to use a 21" wide screen external monitor 
as my primary and the laptop's 15.6" screen as the secondary ...or turn it 
off ...the ATI detects if the external monitor is present at startup and 
switches profiles accordingly.

3) ...I use 1024x768 as my development screen standard because that is the 
lowest common screen resolution among current clients ...I use a screen 
resize code module to resize every form and control to fit the client's 
current monitor resolution without having to make any other changes ...same 
form design works well from 1024x768 to at least 1680x1200 w/o any 
distortion or blank spaces as long as the form was developed at the lower 
setting ...it will resize down to 800x600 but the quality is not as good 
when resizing down.

4) ...I still prefer a kvm switch for server monitor purposes ...while RD 
works there is simply nothing easier than pushing a kvm button to switch 
monitor views imnsho.

...in short, get a recliner with padded arms, get an adjustable stand 
(http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/779380/Zarty-II-Laptop-Cart-35-1/) 
that will slide under the recliner and over its arms (this one is spec'd for 
11lbs but it holds my 21" monitor, laptop, and accessories just fine, and 
get a good track ball ...Riley never had it so good :)

William

--------------------------------------------------
From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 12:47 PM
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop

> I have a 22" 1680 x 1050 display hooked up to a KVM switch.  I work on my 
> laptop almost exclusively
> *except* for my servers (the point of the KVM switch).  But I am 
> developing  problem in my right
> elbow which I think might be related to mousing at an odd angle.  So I 
> decided that perhaps using
> the monitor on my laptop might be the answer, then use remote desktop to 
> switch between them rather
> than a KVM switch.  Plus, I have always wanted to do the dual monitor 
> thing, leave my email and
> billing db on one screen and other stuff on the other.  Or code on one and 
> program on the other.
>
> Things are NEVER simple.  RD comes up in the resolution of monitor one. 
> Plus, if I am going to do
> this the big screen really should be the monitor one right?  Except that 
> typing and mousing off to
> the side of the main monitor is just weird!  But I don't have a native USB 
> keyboard to plug in to
> the laptop (gonna go order that now).  Etc. Etc.
>
> The monitor itself is cool, looks good, works just fine with the laptop 
> (as opposed to a few years
> back when I tried this - different laptop).  Technology has advanced, 
> easier to set up, still feels
> strange.
>
> Well, gotta go to work and give this dual monitor thing a shot.
>
> I know others here do this, how long did it take your brain to adjust?
>
> -- 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> -- 
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 



From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Wed Dec  2 17:28:54 2009
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 18:28:54 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop
In-Reply-To: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E328DF6C9@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
References: <4B16A84D.5070404@colbyconsulting.com><C94966A5D6F741C89CF750E18079C64B@HAL9005>
	<AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E328DF6C9@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
Message-ID: <7F4CEF3114EE4314A5DEC068856C26CF@jislaptopdev>

...I love the trackball but I also found the sore digit problem ...so I 
tried switching hands from day to day and problem solved ...I use the 
trackball design with the ball in the center, not on either side ...makes it 
much easier to use from either hand and my finger is a bit more precise than 
my thumb in controlling the ball.

William

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 4:17 PM
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop

> I used trackballs years ago and gave up on them because THEY bothered my 
> arthritis.  I got tendinitis in my thumb and the precision was never 
> adequate for me.
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:04 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop
>
> My left monitor is set to 800x600 and I do the form and report design on 
> it.
> Right monitor is higher res and I do the coding over there but I change 
> the size of the font so I make it big.  Both monitors are in front of me. 
> I can drag stuff back and forth between them.  Took about 1 minute to get 
> used to it and about two minutes to figure out I could never go back. No 
> KVM but an add-in board to the desktop.  I fixed up another box here with 
> duals, though, using an external black box into a USB port.
>
> As for the mouse thing - I use a trackball - thumb - and support my arm on 
> the chair's armrest so my whole arm is relaxed and I'm not making all 
> those micro movements with my arm and my whole arm isn't tensed up all 
> day.
> Positioning your arm so it's relaxed would be the first thing I'd look at.
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:48 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop
>
> I have a 22" 1680 x 1050 display hooked up to a KVM switch.  I work on my 
> laptop almost exclusively
> *except* for my servers (the point of the KVM switch).  But I am 
> developing problem in my right elbow which I think might be related to 
> mousing at an odd angle.  So I decided that perhaps using the monitor on 
> my laptop might be the answer, then use remote desktop to switch between 
> them rather than a KVM switch.  Plus, I have always wanted to do the dual 
> monitor thing, leave my email and billing db on one screen and other stuff 
> on the other.  Or code on one and program on the other.
>
> Things are NEVER simple.  RD comes up in the resolution of monitor one.
> Plus, if I am going to do this the big screen really should be the monitor 
> one right?  Except that typing and mousing off to the side of the main 
> monitor is just weird!  But I don't have a native USB keyboard to plug in 
> to the laptop (gonna go order that now).  Etc. Etc.
>
> The monitor itself is cool, looks good, works just fine with the laptop 
> (as opposed to a few years back when I tried this - different laptop).
> Technology has advanced, easier to set up, still feels strange.
>
> Well, gotta go to work and give this dual monitor thing a shot.
>
> I know others here do this, how long did it take your brain to adjust?
>
> --
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> --
>
> -- 
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Dec  2 17:20:49 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:20:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop
In-Reply-To: <CE50331AB1A94D4B8F8B672C324B340A@jislaptopdev>
References: <4B16A84D.5070404@colbyconsulting.com>
	<CE50331AB1A94D4B8F8B672C324B340A@jislaptopdev>
Message-ID: <4B16F651.50401@colbyconsulting.com>

 > 1) ...after developing severe cts (all the way into my neck, doc recommended severing a wrist tendon)

Oh man, that's sick!

It is odd because I have been expecting issues for years and never had any.  How many thousands of 
hours have we done this stuff?  Now something is happening in the right elbow.  I can't say for sure 
that it is computer related but given what I do...

The second monitor is working quite well.  As Charlotte said, I have to get the second screen set up 
as the left screen, but beyond that it is good.  The laptop is now a second screen.  Kind of odd 
with a 22" high res next to a 17" medium res.  My 22" is "only" 1680x1050 and my laptop is  1440 x 
900.  Not much difference on the face of it but when displayed on the much larger screen, 1680 x 
1050 is pretty darned cool.  I have set up the smaller laptop screen to use for Thunderbird and my 
Access billing database.  I like to have those two things open at all times and having them off on 
their own screen just works somehow.

If things get work I will work on the recliner idea.  My wife already resents how much time I spend 
up in my office.  A recliner might be a tough sell.  ;)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


William Hindman wrote:
> 1) ...after developing severe cts (all the way into my neck, doc recommended 
> severing a wrist tendon) I switched to a Logitech track ball set up for my 
> left hand ...took a few minutes to get used to it ...the track ball sets on 
> a well padded arm of the recliner I do all of my home/office work from 
> ...the arm and wrist rarely move in using it ...the cts disappeared within 
> days with no surgery and no recurrence ...the only time I use a regular 
> mouse these days is when I need extra fine mouse control for graphics work 
> ...I also found that once the cts was gone, I could use the track ball 
> easily with either hand when work in a clients office necessitates such.
> 
> 2) ...I now do ALL of my work on a Dell laptop ...it has an ATI Radeon 
> Graphics chip set which allows me to use a 21" wide screen external monitor 
> as my primary and the laptop's 15.6" screen as the secondary ...or turn it 
> off ...the ATI detects if the external monitor is present at startup and 
> switches profiles accordingly.
> 
> 3) ...I use 1024x768 as my development screen standard because that is the 
> lowest common screen resolution among current clients ...I use a screen 
> resize code module to resize every form and control to fit the client's 
> current monitor resolution without having to make any other changes ...same 
> form design works well from 1024x768 to at least 1680x1200 w/o any 
> distortion or blank spaces as long as the form was developed at the lower 
> setting ...it will resize down to 800x600 but the quality is not as good 
> when resizing down.
> 
> 4) ...I still prefer a kvm switch for server monitor purposes ...while RD 
> works there is simply nothing easier than pushing a kvm button to switch 
> monitor views imnsho.
> 
> ...in short, get a recliner with padded arms, get an adjustable stand 
> (http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/779380/Zarty-II-Laptop-Cart-35-1/) 
> that will slide under the recliner and over its arms (this one is spec'd for 
> 11lbs but it holds my 21" monitor, laptop, and accessories just fine, and 
> get a good track ball ...Riley never had it so good :)
> 
> William
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 12:47 PM
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop
> 
>> I have a 22" 1680 x 1050 display hooked up to a KVM switch.  I work on my 
>> laptop almost exclusively
>> *except* for my servers (the point of the KVM switch).  But I am 
>> developing  problem in my right
>> elbow which I think might be related to mousing at an odd angle.  So I 
>> decided that perhaps using
>> the monitor on my laptop might be the answer, then use remote desktop to 
>> switch between them rather
>> than a KVM switch.  Plus, I have always wanted to do the dual monitor 
>> thing, leave my email and
>> billing db on one screen and other stuff on the other.  Or code on one and 
>> program on the other.
>>
>> Things are NEVER simple.  RD comes up in the resolution of monitor one. 
>> Plus, if I am going to do
>> this the big screen really should be the monitor one right?  Except that 
>> typing and mousing off to
>> the side of the main monitor is just weird!  But I don't have a native USB 
>> keyboard to plug in to
>> the laptop (gonna go order that now).  Etc. Etc.
>>
>> The monitor itself is cool, looks good, works just fine with the laptop 
>> (as opposed to a few years
>> back when I tried this - different laptop).  Technology has advanced, 
>> easier to set up, still feels
>> strange.
>>
>> Well, gotta go to work and give this dual monitor thing a shot.
>>
>> I know others here do this, how long did it take your brain to adjust?
>>
>> -- 
>> John W. Colby
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>> -- 
>> AccessD mailing list
>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
> 


From kathryn at bassett.net  Wed Dec  2 19:06:59 2009
From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 17:06:59 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop
In-Reply-To: <4B16F651.50401@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B16A84D.5070404@colbyconsulting.com>	<CE50331AB1A94D4B8F8B672C324B340A@jislaptopdev>
	<4B16F651.50401@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <008a01ca73b4$ead58610$c0809230$@net>

JC said:
> It is odd because I have been expecting issues for years and never had
> any.  How many thousands of
> hours have we done this stuff?  Now something is happening in the right
> elbow.  I can't say for sure
> that it is computer related but given what I do...

For over a year I was having a problem with my elbow. Dr diagnosed "tennis
elbow". Took two shots of cortisone (about 4 months apart) to solve the
problem and I've been ok for a couple years now.

I've been asked how I've managed to avoid carpel tunnel since I've been into
computers since 1978. I think it's because I'm constantly taking my hand off
the keyboard/mouse and flexing/rotating my wrist. I am having problems now
but it's because of the severity of my arthritis, not the computing. In
fact, computing is the only time I don't have to wear my thumb brace. And I
use the same Logitech Marble Man previously mentioned.

In Feb or Mar, I went to ortho because of problems with my thumb. Xrays
showed I have a bone spur in addition to the arthritis. Bottom line of that
visit was "your thumb will let you know when it's time to remove the spur".
Well, I did something while I was in Salt Lake that really exacerbated the
problem so I had Dr appt yesterday. But it looks like I won't have to have
surgery on my thumb, and least not right away. Yesterday's xrays showed that
the arthritis has definitely degenerated since the Feb/Mar xrays, but before
considering surgery he wants to try cortisone treatment. Got first shot
while I was there. Of course the first 24 hours of that hurts like blazes so
it's too soon to tell if it will help. I'm just so glad that the problems
don't affect keyboarding/mousing, only everything else. Basically, my
arthritis takes the form of degenerative joints (it's not rheumatoid). The
bone spur is making it worse. However, surgery would be one of two things
(besides grinding the bone spur) - fusing, or taking some tendon from
someplace and putting it in to replace the cartilage. Since I keloid very
easy, that has to be considered as well. So I hope the cortisone works.


--
Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA)
"Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap"
kathryn at bassett.net
http://bassett.net?? 






From dwaters at usinternet.com  Wed Dec  2 19:29:38 2009
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 19:29:38 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor laptop)
In-Reply-To: <008a01ca73b4$ead58610$c0809230$@net>
References: <4B16A84D.5070404@colbyconsulting.com>	<CE50331AB1A94D4B8F8B672C324B340A@jislaptopdev><4B16F651.50401@colbyconsulting.com>
	<008a01ca73b4$ead58610$c0809230$@net>
Message-ID: <71D2590E86DC44879D1146CEB170E34D@danwaters>

The three things that help me the most are: 

    a lightweight mouse (wired MS 3000 Optical), 

    a gamer's mousepad - very low friction (cut down to reasonable size), 

    and a split keyboard (MS 4000).  

Before these I used to get sore wrists, but that's gone now!

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 7:07 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop

JC said:
> It is odd because I have been expecting issues for years and never had
> any.  How many thousands of
> hours have we done this stuff?  Now something is happening in the right
> elbow.  I can't say for sure
> that it is computer related but given what I do...

For over a year I was having a problem with my elbow. Dr diagnosed "tennis
elbow". Took two shots of cortisone (about 4 months apart) to solve the
problem and I've been ok for a couple years now.

I've been asked how I've managed to avoid carpel tunnel since I've been into
computers since 1978. I think it's because I'm constantly taking my hand off
the keyboard/mouse and flexing/rotating my wrist. I am having problems now
but it's because of the severity of my arthritis, not the computing. In
fact, computing is the only time I don't have to wear my thumb brace. And I
use the same Logitech Marble Man previously mentioned.

In Feb or Mar, I went to ortho because of problems with my thumb. Xrays
showed I have a bone spur in addition to the arthritis. Bottom line of that
visit was "your thumb will let you know when it's time to remove the spur".
Well, I did something while I was in Salt Lake that really exacerbated the
problem so I had Dr appt yesterday. But it looks like I won't have to have
surgery on my thumb, and least not right away. Yesterday's xrays showed that
the arthritis has definitely degenerated since the Feb/Mar xrays, but before
considering surgery he wants to try cortisone treatment. Got first shot
while I was there. Of course the first 24 hours of that hurts like blazes so
it's too soon to tell if it will help. I'm just so glad that the problems
don't affect keyboarding/mousing, only everything else. Basically, my
arthritis takes the form of degenerative joints (it's not rheumatoid). The
bone spur is making it worse. However, surgery would be one of two things
(besides grinding the bone spur) - fusing, or taking some tendon from
someplace and putting it in to replace the cartilage. Since I keloid very
easy, that has to be considered as well. So I hope the cortisone works.


--
Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA)
"Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap"
kathryn at bassett.net
http://bassett.net?? 




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From marksimms at verizon.net  Wed Dec  2 19:52:55 2009
From: marksimms at verizon.net (Mark Simms)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:52:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2010 - Publish To Sharepoint
In-Reply-To: <sb1626b9.047@cactus.dk>
References: <sb1626b9.047@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <007f01ca73bb$550f38e0$0601a8c0@MSIMMSWS>

Wow, guys..I am sorry to hear about that.
I don't quite understand why they are effectively banning out-of-USA users.
Very strange.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Gustav Brock
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 2:34 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2010 - Publish To Sharepoint
>
> Hi Mark and Doug
>
> Same here. No go. Seems to be a US thing only.
>
> /gustav
>
> >>> dbdoug at gmail.com 02-12-2009 06:17 >>>
> Just out of curiosity I tried to check out the site you
> mention, and got this message:
>
> "We're sorry, there are no services for trial or purchase
> currently available for your country or region"
>
> Oh darn, one more item to add to the Canadian no-go list
> (Hulu, Amazon music, etc etc).
>
> Doug
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Mark Simms
> <marksimms at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > Doug - what you need to get is this:
> > Business Productivity Online Standard Suite It's Microsoft's own
> > hosted sharepoint service offering.
> > This level will cost you about $25 per month.
> > A bit more if you need more storage.
> > https://mocp.microsoftonline.com/site/ProductCatalogPreSignin.aspx
> > This level will support the services necessary for Access to
> > read/write sharepoint lists.
> > It's a heckuva bargain IMHO....and I think they put a lot
> of 3rd party
> > hosting services out of business as a result of the pricing.
>
>
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From miscellany at mvps.org  Wed Dec  2 20:43:23 2009
From: miscellany at mvps.org (Steve Schapel)
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:43:23 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2010 - Publish To Sharepoint
In-Reply-To: <007f01ca73bb$550f38e0$0601a8c0@MSIMMSWS>
References: <sb1626b9.047@cactus.dk> <007f01ca73bb$550f38e0$0601a8c0@MSIMMSWS>
Message-ID: <9C95D037A69B4680A5573AE6CA4ADD79@stevePC>

Mark,

As a New Zealander, I can testify that this is usual.  New services 
typically get released first in the US, and then eventually rolled out 
internationally.  For example, Office Live Business was available in the US 
for I think about a year before we got it down here.  We still get the Beta 
version of Bing.  Etc.

Regards
Steve


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Mark Simms" <marksimms at verizon.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 2:52 PM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2010 - Publish To Sharepoint

> Wow, guys..I am sorry to hear about that.
> I don't quite understand why they are effectively banning out-of-USA 
> users.
> Very strange.
>
 



From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Wed Dec  2 21:55:44 2009
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 22:55:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop
In-Reply-To: <4B16F651.50401@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B16A84D.5070404@colbyconsulting.com><CE50331AB1A94D4B8F8B672C324B340A@jislaptopdev>
	<4B16F651.50401@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <10084C4365BB4187909111A790BE3AA9@jislaptopdev>

...I was an avid gamer back then ...12-14 hours a day constantly moving and 
clicking using a regular mouse will do it ...guaranteed :)

William

--------------------------------------------------
From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 6:20 PM
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop

> > 1) ...after developing severe cts (all the way into my neck, doc 
> > recommended severing a wrist tendon)
>
> Oh man, that's sick!
>
> It is odd because I have been expecting issues for years and never had 
> any.  How many thousands of
> hours have we done this stuff?  Now something is happening in the right 
> elbow.  I can't say for sure
> that it is computer related but given what I do...
>
> The second monitor is working quite well.  As Charlotte said, I have to 
> get the second screen set up
> as the left screen, but beyond that it is good.  The laptop is now a 
> second screen.  Kind of odd
> with a 22" high res next to a 17" medium res.  My 22" is "only" 1680x1050 
> and my laptop is  1440 x
> 900.  Not much difference on the face of it but when displayed on the much 
> larger screen, 1680 x
> 1050 is pretty darned cool.  I have set up the smaller laptop screen to 
> use for Thunderbird and my
> Access billing database.  I like to have those two things open at all 
> times and having them off on
> their own screen just works somehow.
>
> If things get work I will work on the recliner idea.  My wife already 
> resents how much time I spend
> up in my office.  A recliner might be a tough sell.  ;)
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>
> William Hindman wrote:
>> 1) ...after developing severe cts (all the way into my neck, doc 
>> recommended
>> severing a wrist tendon) I switched to a Logitech track ball set up for 
>> my
>> left hand ...took a few minutes to get used to it ...the track ball sets 
>> on
>> a well padded arm of the recliner I do all of my home/office work from
>> ...the arm and wrist rarely move in using it ...the cts disappeared 
>> within
>> days with no surgery and no recurrence ...the only time I use a regular
>> mouse these days is when I need extra fine mouse control for graphics 
>> work
>> ...I also found that once the cts was gone, I could use the track ball
>> easily with either hand when work in a clients office necessitates such.
>>
>> 2) ...I now do ALL of my work on a Dell laptop ...it has an ATI Radeon
>> Graphics chip set which allows me to use a 21" wide screen external 
>> monitor
>> as my primary and the laptop's 15.6" screen as the secondary ...or turn 
>> it
>> off ...the ATI detects if the external monitor is present at startup and
>> switches profiles accordingly.
>>
>> 3) ...I use 1024x768 as my development screen standard because that is 
>> the
>> lowest common screen resolution among current clients ...I use a screen
>> resize code module to resize every form and control to fit the client's
>> current monitor resolution without having to make any other changes 
>> ...same
>> form design works well from 1024x768 to at least 1680x1200 w/o any
>> distortion or blank spaces as long as the form was developed at the lower
>> setting ...it will resize down to 800x600 but the quality is not as good
>> when resizing down.
>>
>> 4) ...I still prefer a kvm switch for server monitor purposes ...while RD
>> works there is simply nothing easier than pushing a kvm button to switch
>> monitor views imnsho.
>>
>> ...in short, get a recliner with padded arms, get an adjustable stand
>> (http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/779380/Zarty-II-Laptop-Cart-35-1/)
>> that will slide under the recliner and over its arms (this one is spec'd 
>> for
>> 11lbs but it holds my 21" monitor, laptop, and accessories just fine, and
>> get a good track ball ...Riley never had it so good :)
>>
>> William
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 12:47 PM
>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Subject: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop
>>
>>> I have a 22" 1680 x 1050 display hooked up to a KVM switch.  I work on 
>>> my
>>> laptop almost exclusively
>>> *except* for my servers (the point of the KVM switch).  But I am
>>> developing  problem in my right
>>> elbow which I think might be related to mousing at an odd angle.  So I
>>> decided that perhaps using
>>> the monitor on my laptop might be the answer, then use remote desktop to
>>> switch between them rather
>>> than a KVM switch.  Plus, I have always wanted to do the dual monitor
>>> thing, leave my email and
>>> billing db on one screen and other stuff on the other.  Or code on one 
>>> and
>>> program on the other.
>>>
>>> Things are NEVER simple.  RD comes up in the resolution of monitor one.
>>> Plus, if I am going to do
>>> this the big screen really should be the monitor one right?  Except that
>>> typing and mousing off to
>>> the side of the main monitor is just weird!  But I don't have a native 
>>> USB
>>> keyboard to plug in to
>>> the laptop (gonna go order that now).  Etc. Etc.
>>>
>>> The monitor itself is cool, looks good, works just fine with the laptop
>>> (as opposed to a few years
>>> back when I tried this - different laptop).  Technology has advanced,
>>> easier to set up, still feels
>>> strange.
>>>
>>> Well, gotta go to work and give this dual monitor thing a shot.
>>>
>>> I know others here do this, how long did it take your brain to adjust?
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> John W. Colby
>>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>> -- 
>>> AccessD mailing list
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>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>>
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 



From paul.hartland at googlemail.com  Thu Dec  3 01:42:12 2009
From: paul.hartland at googlemail.com (Paul Hartland)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 07:42:12 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Read XML File Using xsd Schema File
Message-ID: <38c884770912022342l4d39081x2945d64db8fbbcfc@mail.gmail.com>

To all,

We have been a given what looks to me like a fairly complex XML file, we
have also been given a xsd schema file.  I tried using the SQLXMLBulkLoad
object in VB6 and was getting the error

Schema: relationship expected on 'Company'.

The company that gave us both the files insist that the xsd is correct
(according to my project manager).  I downloaded and installed Stylus Studio
2010, with which I loaded the XML, and then generated my own xsd schame
file.  Tried again and this time get the same error as above, but instead of
'Company' the error was 'Groups'

The VB6 code I am using is as follows:

Dim objBL

Set objBL = CreateObject("SQLXMLBulkLoad.SQLXMLBulkLoad")
objBL.ConnectionString = "Provider=SQLOLEDB.1;Password=hermes;Persist
Security Info=True;User ID=sa;Initial Catalog=XLTestCD;Data Source=AL-SQL1"


objBL.KeepIdentity = True

objBL.errorlogfile = "C:\XML_StylusStudio\Error.log"

objBL.checkconstraints = True
objBL.xmlfragment = True
objBL.schemagen = True
objBL.sgdroptables = True

objBL.Execute "C:\XML_StylusStudio\newschema.xsd",
"C:\XML_StylusStudio\CDFull_Original.xml"
Set objBl=Nothing

The object of the exercise being that we generate related tables in SQL
Server 2005 of the XML data.

Would be grateful if anyone could help with this (would be happy to send
example XML file and the schema offline), as I haven't got much hair left to
pull out.

Thanks in advance for any help on this.

-- 
Paul Hartland
paul.hartland at googlemail.com


From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Thu Dec  3 07:33:25 2009
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 08:33:25 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop
In-Reply-To: <4B16B572.8040407@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B16A84D.5070404@colbyconsulting.com><AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E328DF5FD@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
	<4B16B572.8040407@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <4B17BE25.5070003@torchlake.com>

John,

I actually have a small wrist-pad for my mouse hand.  Resting my wrist 
on that pad keeps me happy.  Mouse is immediately to the right of my 
laptop (wrist-pad for that, too), so my hand motion from keyboard to 
mouse is short (about 6") and my forearm and wrist are always 
supported.  This has worked well for me, even when I have months of very 
intense typing - as in the writing of research papers every week during 
my master's program.  Hope this helps.

T

jwcolby wrote:
> LOL.
>
> I was stretching my arm straight out so no part was supported.  I am trying to work with the arm 
> supported by the arm of the chair and the wrist on the mouse pad, no pressure on the elbow.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>
> Charlotte Foust wrote:
>   
>> With regard to the elbow issue, if you're stretching your arm way out to the side, that can definitely cause problems.  I use a keyboard drawer with a mouse surface on my work machine.  That lets me keep my arm closer to my body.  I used to use the desktop but that hurt.  You might also try a gyro mouse, which I really like, but unfortunately when one of the gyros gives out, you can only mouse either vertically or horizontally depending on which one died.  While they work, they're great though!
>>
>> I also reverse the buttons on my regular mouse to avoid the repetitive stress on my forefinger from left clicking.  That eases my arthritis and provides endless entertainment when someone else tries to use the mouse!  LOL
>>
>> Charlotte Foust 
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:48 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: [AccessD] Dual monitor laptop
>>
>> I have a 22" 1680 x 1050 display hooked up to a KVM switch.  I work on my laptop almost exclusively
>> *except* for my servers (the point of the KVM switch).  But I am developing  problem in my right elbow which I think might be related to mousing at an odd angle.  So I decided that perhaps using the monitor on my laptop might be the answer, then use remote desktop to switch between them rather than a KVM switch.  Plus, I have always wanted to do the dual monitor thing, leave my email and billing db on one screen and other stuff on the other.  Or code on one and program on the other.
>>
>> Things are NEVER simple.  RD comes up in the resolution of monitor one.  Plus, if I am going to do this the big screen really should be the monitor one right?  Except that typing and mousing off to the side of the main monitor is just weird!  But I don't have a native USB keyboard to plug in to the laptop (gonna go order that now).  Etc. Etc.
>>
>> The monitor itself is cool, looks good, works just fine with the laptop (as opposed to a few years back when I tried this - different laptop).  Technology has advanced, easier to set up, still feels strange.
>>
>> Well, gotta go to work and give this dual monitor thing a shot.
>>
>> I know others here do this, how long did it take your brain to adjust?
>>
>> --
>> John W. Colby
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>> --
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>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>>     


From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Thu Dec  3 07:47:51 2009
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 08:47:51 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2010 - Publish To Sharepoint
In-Reply-To: <9C95D037A69B4680A5573AE6CA4ADD79@stevePC>
References: <sb1626b9.047@cactus.dk> <007f01ca73bb$550f38e0$0601a8c0@MSIMMSWS>
	<9C95D037A69B4680A5573AE6CA4ADD79@stevePC>
Message-ID: <4B17C187.8070502@torchlake.com>

Who says chauvinism is dead?!?  :-)
T

Steve Schapel wrote:
> Mark,
>
> As a New Zealander, I can testify that this is usual.  New services 
> typically get released first in the US, and then eventually rolled out 
> internationally.  For example, Office Live Business was available in the US 
> for I think about a year before we got it down here.  We still get the Beta 
> version of Bing.  Etc.
>
> Regards
> Steve
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Mark Simms" <marksimms at verizon.net>
> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 2:52 PM
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2010 - Publish To Sharepoint
>
>   
>> Wow, guys..I am sorry to hear about that.
>> I don't quite understand why they are effectively banning out-of-USA 
>> users.
>> Very strange.
>>
>>     
>  
>
>   


From dw-murphy at cox.net  Thu Dec  3 13:29:17 2009
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 11:29:17 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007 force form to forground
In-Reply-To: <4B17C187.8070502@torchlake.com>
References: <sb1626b9.047@cactus.dk>
	<007f01ca73bb$550f38e0$0601a8c0@MSIMMSWS><9C95D037A69B4680A5573AE6CA4ADD79@stevePC>
	<4B17C187.8070502@torchlake.com>
Message-ID: <44BA171D5C3149C8BB7EF59CD7E3031D@murphy3234aaf1>

Folks,

I don't think my subject was very descriptive so here is the problem. I know
there is a simple solution but have a cold and my head isn't working. I have
a project in Access 2007 that has a main menu form. From here we can select
a search form to find proposals. The search can be by proposal number, using
a combo box, or by  using various criteria that go into a search string. The
search form is opened as a dialog. When the proposal number is used to open
the proposal form it opens behind the menu. Is there a way to force it to
the front? I use this method in a couple of other places in this app. and
the form called from the search form always opens in front of the menu form.

I think this has to do with the way 2007 displays forms, tabbed show tabs,
tabbed don't show tabs or overlapping windows. I just don't have the decoder
ring.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Doug



From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Dec  3 13:39:11 2009
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 13:39:11 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007 force form to forground
In-Reply-To: <44BA171D5C3149C8BB7EF59CD7E3031D@murphy3234aaf1>
References: <sb1626b9.047@cactus.dk><007f01ca73bb$550f38e0$0601a8c0@MSIMMSWS><9C95D037A69B4680A5573AE6CA4ADD79@stevePC><4B17C187.8070502@torchlake.com>
	<44BA171D5C3149C8BB7EF59CD7E3031D@murphy3234aaf1>
Message-ID: <EB0DA32E6F0E4896B08A4F8F0347400D@danwaters>

Just as a test, what happens if you do not open the search form as a dialog?

Dan 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Murphy
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:29 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007 force form to forground

Folks,

I don't think my subject was very descriptive so here is the problem. I know
there is a simple solution but have a cold and my head isn't working. I have
a project in Access 2007 that has a main menu form. From here we can select
a search form to find proposals. The search can be by proposal number, using
a combo box, or by  using various criteria that go into a search string. The
search form is opened as a dialog. When the proposal number is used to open
the proposal form it opens behind the menu. Is there a way to force it to
the front? I use this method in a couple of other places in this app. and
the form called from the search form always opens in front of the menu form.

I think this has to do with the way 2007 displays forms, tabbed show tabs,
tabbed don't show tabs or overlapping windows. I just don't have the decoder
ring.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Doug

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From dw-murphy at cox.net  Thu Dec  3 13:44:26 2009
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 11:44:26 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007 force form to forground
In-Reply-To: <EB0DA32E6F0E4896B08A4F8F0347400D@danwaters>
References: <sb1626b9.047@cactus.dk><007f01ca73bb$550f38e0$0601a8c0@MSIMMSWS><9C95D037A69B4680A5573AE6CA4ADD79@stevePC><4B17C187.8070502@torchlake.com><44BA171D5C3149C8BB7EF59CD7E3031D@murphy3234aaf1>
	<EB0DA32E6F0E4896B08A4F8F0347400D@danwaters>
Message-ID: <1627C52C0A5643B0B1DC66500ECD8403@murphy3234aaf1>

Well that was too simple. Didn't try that. Thank Dan. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 11:39 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2007 force form to forground

Just as a test, what happens if you do not open the search form as a dialog?

Dan 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Murphy
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:29 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007 force form to forground

Folks,

I don't think my subject was very descriptive so here is the problem. I know
there is a simple solution but have a cold and my head isn't working. I have
a project in Access 2007 that has a main menu form. From here we can select
a search form to find proposals. The search can be by proposal number, using
a combo box, or by  using various criteria that go into a search string. The
search form is opened as a dialog. When the proposal number is used to open
the proposal form it opens behind the menu. Is there a way to force it to
the front? I use this method in a couple of other places in this app. and
the form called from the search form always opens in front of the menu form.

I think this has to do with the way 2007 displays forms, tabbed show tabs,
tabbed don't show tabs or overlapping windows. I just don't have the decoder
ring.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Doug

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From paul.hartland at googlemail.com  Fri Dec  4 05:59:31 2009
From: paul.hartland at googlemail.com (Paul Hartland)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 11:59:31 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Test
Message-ID: <38c884770912040359i76ed5d21wed2a4880ca56788@mail.gmail.com>

Please delete as test email, sent question about XML problem about two days
ago, and haven't seen it appear.

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From paul.hartland at googlemail.com  Fri Dec  4 06:19:01 2009
From: paul.hartland at googlemail.com (Paul Hartland)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 12:19:01 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Read XML File Using xsd Schema File
Message-ID: <38c884770912040419xdc61c66y2c315b820cd6fb09@mail.gmail.com>

To all,

We have been a given what looks to me like a fairly complex XML file, we
have also been given a xsd schema file.  I tried using the SQLXMLBulkLoad
object in VB6 and was getting the error

Schema: relationship expected on 'Company'.

The company that gave us both the files insist that the xsd is correct
(according to my project manager).  I downloaded and installed Stylus Studio
2010, with which I loaded the XML, and then generated my own xsd schame
file.  Tried again and this time get the same error as above, but instead of
'Company' the error was 'Groups'

The VB6 code I am using is as follows:

Dim objBL

Set objBL = CreateObject("SQLXMLBulkLoad.SQLXMLBulkLoad")
objBL.ConnectionString = "Provider=SQLOLEDB.1;Password=hermes;Persist
Security Info=True;User ID=sa;Initial Catalog=XLTestCD;Data Source=AL-SQL1"


objBL.KeepIdentity = True

objBL.errorlogfile = "C:\XML_StylusStudio\Error.log"

objBL.checkconstraints = True
objBL.xmlfragment = True
objBL.schemagen = True
objBL.sgdroptables = True

objBL.Execute "C:\XML_StylusStudio\newschema.xsd",
"C:\XML_StylusStudio\CDFull_Original.xml"
Set objBl=Nothing

The object of the exercise being that we generate related tables in SQL
Server 2005 of the XML data.

Would be grateful if anyone could help with this (would be happy to send
example XML file and the schema offline), as I haven't got much hair left to
pull out.

Thanks in advance for any help on this.

-- 
Paul Hartland
paul.hartland at googlemail.com


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Dec  4 06:18:40 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:18:40 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Test
Message-ID: <sb190c4d.006@cactus.dk>

Hi Paul

Both arrived at the list but apparently no one has an advice ...

/gustav

>>> paul.hartland at googlemail.com 04-12-2009 12:59 >>>
Please delete as test email, sent question about XML problem about two days
ago, and haven't seen it appear.

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From garykjos at gmail.com  Fri Dec  4 06:20:51 2009
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 06:20:51 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Read XML File Using xsd Schema File
In-Reply-To: <38c884770912022342l4d39081x2945d64db8fbbcfc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <38c884770912022342l4d39081x2945d64db8fbbcfc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950912040420i3f28fc37o4ee6d5609994ac63@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Paul,

Nothing to add here but I know you were wondering if you message made
it to the list. I don't do any XML work.

Good luck with it.

GK

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:42 AM, Paul Hartland
<paul.hartland at googlemail.com> wrote:
> To all,
>
> We have been a given what looks to me like a fairly complex XML file, we
> have also been given a xsd schema file. ?I tried using the SQLXMLBulkLoad
> object in VB6 and was getting the error
>
> Schema: relationship expected on 'Company'.
>
> The company that gave us both the files insist that the xsd is correct
> (according to my project manager). ?I downloaded and installed Stylus Studio
> 2010, with which I loaded the XML, and then generated my own xsd schame
> file. ?Tried again and this time get the same error as above, but instead of
> 'Company' the error was 'Groups'
>
> The VB6 code I am using is as follows:
>
> Dim objBL
>
> Set objBL = CreateObject("SQLXMLBulkLoad.SQLXMLBulkLoad")
> objBL.ConnectionString = "Provider=SQLOLEDB.1;Password=hermes;Persist
> Security Info=True;User ID=sa;Initial Catalog=XLTestCD;Data Source=AL-SQL1"
>
>
> objBL.KeepIdentity = True
>
> objBL.errorlogfile = "C:\XML_StylusStudio\Error.log"
>
> objBL.checkconstraints = True
> objBL.xmlfragment = True
> objBL.schemagen = True
> objBL.sgdroptables = True
>
> objBL.Execute "C:\XML_StylusStudio\newschema.xsd",
> "C:\XML_StylusStudio\CDFull_Original.xml"
> Set objBl=Nothing
>
> The object of the exercise being that we generate related tables in SQL
> Server 2005 of the XML data.
>
> Would be grateful if anyone could help with this (would be happy to send
> example XML file and the schema offline), as I haven't got much hair left to
> pull out.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help on this.
>
> --
> Paul Hartland
> paul.hartland at googlemail.com
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Dec  4 08:23:45 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 09:23:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Tooltips
Message-ID: <4B191B71.7070300@colbyconsulting.com>

Does anyone actually use ToolTips in an organized aggressive fashion?  Like fill them in on dozens 
or hundreds of controls in an application?

If so do you bother with a method of storing them in a table so that they can be found and edited?

-- 
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www.ColbyConsulting.com


From drawbridgej at sympatico.ca  Fri Dec  4 08:29:20 2009
From: drawbridgej at sympatico.ca (Jack and Pat)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 09:29:20 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Read XML File Using xsd Schema File
In-Reply-To: <38c884770912022342l4d39081x2945d64db8fbbcfc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <38c884770912022342l4d39081x2945d64db8fbbcfc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <733BC963182549929FA30E6DD6D1AC7A@AMDXP>

Paul,

No direct involvement in xml, but I did have some issues  previously and
found Tek-Tips xml forum quite helpful. I did find this M$oft example of
bulkload
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa225754%28SQL.80%29.aspx 

Hope it helps.
jack
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hartland
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 2:42 AM
To: Access List
Subject: [AccessD] Read XML File Using xsd Schema File

To all,

We have been a given what looks to me like a fairly complex XML file, we
have also been given a xsd schema file.  I tried using the SQLXMLBulkLoad
object in VB6 and was getting the error

Schema: relationship expected on 'Company'.

The company that gave us both the files insist that the xsd is correct
(according to my project manager).  I downloaded and installed Stylus Studio
2010, with which I loaded the XML, and then generated my own xsd schame
file.  Tried again and this time get the same error as above, but instead of
'Company' the error was 'Groups'

The VB6 code I am using is as follows:

Dim objBL

Set objBL = CreateObject("SQLXMLBulkLoad.SQLXMLBulkLoad")
objBL.ConnectionString = "Provider=SQLOLEDB.1;Password=hermes;Persist
Security Info=True;User ID=sa;Initial Catalog=XLTestCD;Data Source=AL-SQL1"


objBL.KeepIdentity = True

objBL.errorlogfile = "C:\XML_StylusStudio\Error.log"

objBL.checkconstraints = True
objBL.xmlfragment = True
objBL.schemagen = True
objBL.sgdroptables = True

objBL.Execute "C:\XML_StylusStudio\newschema.xsd",
"C:\XML_StylusStudio\CDFull_Original.xml"
Set objBl=Nothing

The object of the exercise being that we generate related tables in SQL
Server 2005 of the XML data.

Would be grateful if anyone could help with this (would be happy to send
example XML file and the schema offline), as I haven't got much hair left to
pull out.

Thanks in advance for any help on this.

-- 
Paul Hartland
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From paul.hartland at googlemail.com  Fri Dec  4 08:35:04 2009
From: paul.hartland at googlemail.com (Paul Hartland)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 14:35:04 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Read XML File Using xsd Schema File
In-Reply-To: <733BC963182549929FA30E6DD6D1AC7A@AMDXP>
References: <38c884770912022342l4d39081x2945d64db8fbbcfc@mail.gmail.com>
	<733BC963182549929FA30E6DD6D1AC7A@AMDXP>
Message-ID: <38c884770912040635h2ffda1a8l7d004b977560d098@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you Jack, will look into it.


Paul

2009/12/4 Jack and Pat <drawbridgej at sympatico.ca>

> Paul,
>
> No direct involvement in xml, but I did have some issues  previously and
> found Tek-Tips xml forum quite helpful. I did find this M$oft example of
> bulkload
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa225754%28SQL.80%29.aspx
>
> Hope it helps.
> jack
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hartland
> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 2:42 AM
> To: Access List
> Subject: [AccessD] Read XML File Using xsd Schema File
>
> To all,
>
> We have been a given what looks to me like a fairly complex XML file, we
> have also been given a xsd schema file.  I tried using the SQLXMLBulkLoad
> object in VB6 and was getting the error
>
> Schema: relationship expected on 'Company'.
>
> The company that gave us both the files insist that the xsd is correct
> (according to my project manager).  I downloaded and installed Stylus
> Studio
> 2010, with which I loaded the XML, and then generated my own xsd schame
> file.  Tried again and this time get the same error as above, but instead
> of
> 'Company' the error was 'Groups'
>
> The VB6 code I am using is as follows:
>
> Dim objBL
>
> Set objBL = CreateObject("SQLXMLBulkLoad.SQLXMLBulkLoad")
> objBL.ConnectionString = "Provider=SQLOLEDB.1;Password=hermes;Persist
> Security Info=True;User ID=sa;Initial Catalog=XLTestCD;Data Source=AL-SQL1"
>
>
> objBL.KeepIdentity = True
>
> objBL.errorlogfile = "C:\XML_StylusStudio\Error.log"
>
> objBL.checkconstraints = True
> objBL.xmlfragment = True
> objBL.schemagen = True
> objBL.sgdroptables = True
>
> objBL.Execute "C:\XML_StylusStudio\newschema.xsd",
> "C:\XML_StylusStudio\CDFull_Original.xml"
> Set objBl=Nothing
>
> The object of the exercise being that we generate related tables in SQL
> Server 2005 of the XML data.
>
> Would be grateful if anyone could help with this (would be happy to send
> example XML file and the schema offline), as I haven't got much hair left
> to
> pull out.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help on this.
>
> --
> Paul Hartland
> paul.hartland at googlemail.com
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Fri Dec  4 08:45:30 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 06:45:30 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Tooltips
In-Reply-To: <4B191B71.7070300@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B191B71.7070300@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <A34E3DE02C49491681B99A81C3C6CE49@HAL9005>

I do not use them.  PITA if you want to do them consistently.  If you start
down that road then the user will be expecting them everywhere for an
indication of what the control is for.  I've always thought that clearly
labeled text boxes and command buttons were sufficient.  

Rocky


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 6:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Tooltips

Does anyone actually use ToolTips in an organized aggressive fashion?  Like
fill them in on dozens or hundreds of controls in an application?

If so do you bother with a method of storing them in a table so that they
can be found and edited?

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Fri Dec  4 08:46:14 2009
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 08:46:14 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Tooltips
In-Reply-To: <4B191B71.7070300@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B191B71.7070300@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <C6F26FF37E764D81BC701B59A4774E45@danwaters>

Hi John,

I've been putting tooltips on all buttons in forms.  I don't put them
anywhere else.  With this 'pattern', my customers have told me that they
like to have the tooltips as a quick reminder, if they haven't used that
form for a while.

I type the text directly into the property sheet.

You can enter multi-line tooltips by holding down the ctl+enter keys as you
type the tool tip.  If you want a blank line, you must enter a space, or
else that 'blank' line will collapse when it is displayed.  This works in
Access - I hope VB is the same or similar.

Good Luck!
Dan

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Tooltips

Does anyone actually use ToolTips in an organized aggressive fashion?  Like
fill them in on dozens 
or hundreds of controls in an application?

If so do you bother with a method of storing them in a table so that they
can be found and edited?

-- 
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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Fri Dec  4 08:53:32 2009
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Mike Mattys)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 09:53:32 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Tooltips
References: <4B191B71.7070300@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <A3123BC34C334AC1BC2BA8EFE178F98A@Mattys>

Hi John,

I used a multiline tooltips class once for demo purposes
("This button's function accomplishes that process ...")

The speed at which the tooltips could be accessed from
a table was inconsequential since the class stored the
text until it was changed.

-
Michael R Mattys
MapPoint and Database Dev
www.mattysconsulting.com
-
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:23 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Tooltips


> Does anyone actually use ToolTips in an organized aggressive fashion? 
> Like fill them in on dozens
> or hundreds of controls in an application?
>
> If so do you bother with a method of storing them in a table so that they 
> can be found and edited?
>
> -- 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com 



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Dec  4 09:24:14 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 10:24:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Tooltips
In-Reply-To: <A34E3DE02C49491681B99A81C3C6CE49@HAL9005>
References: <4B191B71.7070300@colbyconsulting.com>
	<A34E3DE02C49491681B99A81C3C6CE49@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <4B19299E.3030507@colbyconsulting.com>

 >I've always thought that clearly labeled text boxes and command buttons were sufficient.

I have been struggling to get a version released at one specific client.  Yesterday I get a call 
that "there is no scroll bar for policy holder location" and we are backing the new version out.

Well... it turns out this is simply combo filtering, it has always been this way and the combo only 
displays WORK locations, but there was only one user that actually knew that.  The location that the 
users expected to see in the combo had never been flagged as a work location and so was not visible.

Now... having spent a half hour discovering this, I could "document it" in the ToolTip.  Would 
anyone ever read the tool tip?  That is a different discussion entirely.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Rocky Smolin wrote:
> I do not use them.  PITA if you want to do them consistently.  If you start
> down that road then the user will be expecting them everywhere for an
> indication of what the control is for.  I've always thought that clearly
> labeled text boxes and command buttons were sufficient.  
> 
> Rocky
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 6:24 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Tooltips
> 
> Does anyone actually use ToolTips in an organized aggressive fashion?  Like
> fill them in on dozens or hundreds of controls in an application?
> 
> If so do you bother with a method of storing them in a table so that they
> can be found and edited?
> 
> --
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
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> 


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Fri Dec  4 09:37:49 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 07:37:49 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Tooltips
In-Reply-To: <4B19299E.3030507@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B191B71.7070300@colbyconsulting.com><A34E3DE02C49491681B99A81C3C6CE49@HAL9005>
	<4B19299E.3030507@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <200DB10EF1BB49AE946BAD10F48A7AEC@HAL9005>

The tooltip would only appear if they hovered in the right place for a
couple of seconds.  If they drop down the combo box and don't see what they
think they should, won't you get the same response/support call?  A label
next to the box  saying "this combo box contains only..." would be more
effective but then you've probably got real estate problems. RTFM?  Or is
there no M?

R

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 7:24 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Tooltips

 >I've always thought that clearly labeled text boxes and command buttons
were sufficient.

I have been struggling to get a version released at one specific client.
Yesterday I get a call that "there is no scroll bar for policy holder
location" and we are backing the new version out.

Well... it turns out this is simply combo filtering, it has always been this
way and the combo only displays WORK locations, but there was only one user
that actually knew that.  The location that the users expected to see in the
combo had never been flagged as a work location and so was not visible.

Now... having spent a half hour discovering this, I could "document it" in
the ToolTip.  Would anyone ever read the tool tip?  That is a different
discussion entirely.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Rocky Smolin wrote:
> I do not use them.  PITA if you want to do them consistently.  If you 
> start down that road then the user will be expecting them everywhere 
> for an indication of what the control is for.  I've always thought 
> that clearly labeled text boxes and command buttons were sufficient.
> 
> Rocky
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 6:24 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Tooltips
> 
> Does anyone actually use ToolTips in an organized aggressive fashion?  
> Like fill them in on dozens or hundreds of controls in an application?
> 
> If so do you bother with a method of storing them in a table so that 
> they can be found and edited?
> 
> --
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Dec  4 10:01:52 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 11:01:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Tooltips
In-Reply-To: <A3123BC34C334AC1BC2BA8EFE178F98A@Mattys>
References: <4B191B71.7070300@colbyconsulting.com>
	<A3123BC34C334AC1BC2BA8EFE178F98A@Mattys>
Message-ID: <4B193270.3020205@colbyconsulting.com>

 > I used a multiline tooltips class once for demo purposes ("This button's function accomplishes 
that process ...")

 > The speed at which the tooltips could be accessed from a table was inconsequential since the 
class stored the text until it was changed.

LOL, my kinda guy.  Is this something I can find and use or is it custom written by you?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Mike Mattys wrote:
> Hi John,
> 
> I used a multiline tooltips class once for demo purposes
> ("This button's function accomplishes that process ...")
> 
> The speed at which the tooltips could be accessed from
> a table was inconsequential since the class stored the
> text until it was changed.
> 
> -
> Michael R Mattys
> MapPoint and Database Dev
> www.mattysconsulting.com
> -
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:23 AM
> Subject: [AccessD] Tooltips
> 
> 
>> Does anyone actually use ToolTips in an organized aggressive fashion? 
>> Like fill them in on dozens
>> or hundreds of controls in an application?
>>
>> If so do you bother with a method of storing them in a table so that they 
>> can be found and edited?
>>
>> -- 
>> John W. Colby
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
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> 


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Dec  4 10:03:34 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 11:03:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Tooltips
In-Reply-To: <200DB10EF1BB49AE946BAD10F48A7AEC@HAL9005>
References: <4B191B71.7070300@colbyconsulting.com><A34E3DE02C49491681B99A81C3C6CE49@HAL9005>	<4B19299E.3030507@colbyconsulting.com>
	<200DB10EF1BB49AE946BAD10F48A7AEC@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <4B1932D6.8070907@colbyconsulting.com>

There is no manual.

I have my hands full writing the app and they have never bothered to build a manual.  They have 
threatened to once or twice.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Rocky Smolin wrote:
> The tooltip would only appear if they hovered in the right place for a
> couple of seconds.  If they drop down the combo box and don't see what they
> think they should, won't you get the same response/support call?  A label
> next to the box  saying "this combo box contains only..." would be more
> effective but then you've probably got real estate problems. RTFM?  Or is
> there no M?
> 
> R
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 7:24 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Tooltips
> 
>  >I've always thought that clearly labeled text boxes and command buttons
> were sufficient.
> 
> I have been struggling to get a version released at one specific client.
> Yesterday I get a call that "there is no scroll bar for policy holder
> location" and we are backing the new version out.
> 
> Well... it turns out this is simply combo filtering, it has always been this
> way and the combo only displays WORK locations, but there was only one user
> that actually knew that.  The location that the users expected to see in the
> combo had never been flagged as a work location and so was not visible.
> 
> Now... having spent a half hour discovering this, I could "document it" in
> the ToolTip.  Would anyone ever read the tool tip?  That is a different
> discussion entirely.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> 
> Rocky Smolin wrote:
>> I do not use them.  PITA if you want to do them consistently.  If you 
>> start down that road then the user will be expecting them everywhere 
>> for an indication of what the control is for.  I've always thought 
>> that clearly labeled text boxes and command buttons were sufficient.
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 6:24 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: [AccessD] Tooltips
>>
>> Does anyone actually use ToolTips in an organized aggressive fashion?  
>> Like fill them in on dozens or hundreds of controls in an application?
>>
>> If so do you bother with a method of storing them in a table so that 
>> they can be found and edited?
>>
>> --
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>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
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>>
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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Fri Dec  4 10:16:00 2009
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Mike Mattys)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 11:16:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Tooltips
References: <4B191B71.7070300@colbyconsulting.com><A3123BC34C334AC1BC2BA8EFE178F98A@Mattys>
	<4B193270.3020205@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <B60E95F866124BE0B492DB2C8D5083CF@Mattys>

Hi John,

I'm pretty sure I used Lebans' code
Search for Tooltip on http://www.lebans.com/toc.htm
http://www.lebans.com/DownloadFiles/A2kTooltipver34.zip

If I find the database (it was a few years back), I'll send it.

-
Michael R Mattys
MapPoint and Database Dev
www.mattysconsulting.com
-

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Tooltips


> > I used a multiline tooltips class once for demo purposes ("This button's 
> > function accomplishes
> that process ...")
>
> > The speed at which the tooltips could be accessed from a table was 
> > inconsequential since the
> class stored the text until it was changed.
>
> LOL, my kinda guy.  Is this something I can find and use or is it custom 
> written by you?
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>
> Mike Mattys wrote:
>> Hi John,
>>
>> I used a multiline tooltips class once for demo purposes
>> ("This button's function accomplishes that process ...")
>>
>> The speed at which the tooltips could be accessed from
>> a table was inconsequential since the class stored the
>> text until it was changed.
>>
>> -
>> Michael R Mattys
>> MapPoint and Database Dev
>> www.mattysconsulting.com
>> -
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 9:23 AM
>> Subject: [AccessD] Tooltips
>>
>>
>>> Does anyone actually use ToolTips in an organized aggressive fashion?
>>> Like fill them in on dozens
>>> or hundreds of controls in an application?
>>>
>>> If so do you bother with a method of storing them in a table so that 
>>> they
>>> can be found and edited?
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> John W. Colby
>>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>> -- 
>>> AccessD mailing list
>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
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>>
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From dkalsow at yahoo.com  Fri Dec  4 11:44:27 2009
From: dkalsow at yahoo.com (Dale Kalsow)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 09:44:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Intermec Network Printing
In-Reply-To: <8786a4c00911222345t3af7d2f8h9617aed2ea555ac8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <487580.25300.qm@web50401.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


Does anyone have any code that will allow me to send data over the network to an intermec printer?
?
thanks!
?
Dale


      

From jeff.developer at gmail.com  Fri Dec  4 11:59:43 2009
From: jeff.developer at gmail.com (Jeff B)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 11:59:43 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Intermec Network Printing
In-Reply-To: <487580.25300.qm@web50401.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <8786a4c00911222345t3af7d2f8h9617aed2ea555ac8@mail.gmail.com>
	<487580.25300.qm@web50401.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4b194dbb.5544f10a.4b7c.7373@mx.google.com>

The last place I worked, we had an Intermec label printer.  We installed it
using an IP address (networking the printer itself) and I was able to add
the printer to ANY machine on the network, thus allowing me to print
directly.

Jeff Barrows
MCP, MCAD, MCSD
?
Outbak Technologies, LLC
Racine, WI
jeff.developer at gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dale Kalsow
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 11:44 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Intermec Network Printing


Does anyone have any code that will allow me to send data over the network
to an intermec printer?
?
thanks!
?
Dale


      
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Dec  4 12:30:32 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:30:32 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Code Search
Message-ID: <4B195548.4030300@colbyconsulting.com>

Has anyone noticed this on Google?

http://www.google.com/codesearch?hl=en

Anyone using it?

-- 
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www.ColbyConsulting.com


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Dec  4 13:42:59 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:42:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] I need a crosstab (kinda)
Message-ID: <4B196643.8090001@colbyconsulting.com>

I have a table that I create for my DBFH client orders.  This table has a set of fields which are 
the where clause fields.  Every single "where clause" field (for data placed in the table) gets 
created in the table, then the actual codes that match the where are placed in those fields.

For example, the source table has a a field called MOB and these fields contain a code of '1' or '2' 
or they contain the empty string ''.  So when I create tblOrderData, IF I am using the MOB field in 
the where clause to select data to place in tblOrderData, I create a MOB field in tblOrderData and 
whatever that field contains gets placed in this field.

I do this because the client might say "MOB" AND ("Kids_1_3" OR "Kids_4_7" or...) etc.  I need to be 
able to visually prove that my data matches the where clause.  Thus the where clause fields in 
tblOrderData.

Additionally however the client wants to see counts of each where clause field, and counts of the 
intersection of where clause fields.  "count of MOB AND Kids_1_3", Count of MOB and Kids_4_7" etc. 
If I have 4 where clause fields I would have a 4x4 matrix with counts of the intersections.  5 where 
clause fields would give me a 5x5 matrix of counts of intersections.

He thinks of it as a table where the column headers are the where clause field names and the row 
headers are the where clause field names.  I am pretty sure I do not know how to do this in SQL.

Is this possible in SQL?  It is kind of a crosstab but not really.

-- 
John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


From dwaters at usinternet.com  Fri Dec  4 16:50:21 2009
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 16:50:21 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Access 15 & SQL Server
Message-ID: <4C2081666CAB436A91E07782941667D0@danwaters>

The Access Team is asking for comments on how Access could be modified to
better work with SQL Server.

http://blogs.msdn.com/access/archive/2009/12/03/access-15-and-sql-server.asp
x


Dan




From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Fri Dec  4 19:25:11 2009
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 19:25:11 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Access 15 & SQL Server
In-Reply-To: <4C2081666CAB436A91E07782941667D0@danwaters>
References: <4C2081666CAB436A91E07782941667D0@danwaters>
Message-ID: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E328DFF27@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>

Um ... Isn' that what the late, lamented adps were for??

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:50 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Access 15 & SQL Server

The Access Team is asking for comments on how Access could be modified to better work with SQL Server.

http://blogs.msdn.com/access/archive/2009/12/03/access-15-and-sql-server.asp
x


Dan


--



From dwaters at usinternet.com  Sat Dec  5 09:15:43 2009
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 09:15:43 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Access 15 & SQL Server
In-Reply-To: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E328DFF27@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
References: <4C2081666CAB436A91E07782941667D0@danwaters>
	<AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E328DFF27@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
Message-ID: <71E6E0AACB614DAE887479CC6CBCAEC8@danwaters>

Hi Charlotte,

You can currently create an ADP in Access 2007, and presumably in Access
2010 as well.

Everyone's been complaining that MS is not looking at developer needs with
Access - and now they are.  I do wish they had done this sooner, but MS
probably saw a larger income stream by making the changes they did in Access
2007 and when they made Access 2010 to be more compatible with Sharepoint.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 7:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 15 & SQL Server

Um ... Isn' that what the late, lamented adps were for??

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:50 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Access 15 & SQL Server

The Access Team is asking for comments on how Access could be modified to
better work with SQL Server.

http://blogs.msdn.com/access/archive/2009/12/03/access-15-and-sql-server.asp
x


Dan


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From adtp at airtelmail.in  Sun Dec  6 02:14:25 2009
From: adtp at airtelmail.in (A.D. Tejpal)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 13:44:25 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] I need a crosstab (kinda)
References: <4B196643.8090001@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <001801ca764c$581195e0$3701a8c0@adtpc>

JC,

    It would help if you were in a position to reproduce in your post, the structure of table tblOrderData, along with a few rows of sample dummy data under each column. This should be followed by a sample depiction of the desired output matrix sought by you.

    Alternatively, you could place a zipped copy of skeleton mdb containing the above details at a convenient web site from where it could be downloaded.

Best wishes,
A.D. Tejpal
------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: jwcolby 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving ; Dba-Sqlserver 
  Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 01:12
  Subject: [AccessD] I need a crosstab (kinda)


  I have a table that I create for my DBFH client orders.  This table has a set of fields which are the where clause fields.  Every single "where clause" field (for data placed in the table) gets created in the table, then the actual codes that match the where are placed in those fields.

  For example, the source table has a a field called MOB and these fields contain a code of '1' or '2' or they contain the empty string ''.  So when I create tblOrderData, IF I am using the MOB field in the where clause to select data to place in tblOrderData, I create a MOB field in tblOrderData and whatever that field contains gets placed in this field.

  I do this because the client might say "MOB" AND ("Kids_1_3" OR "Kids_4_7" or...) etc.  I need to be able to visually prove that my data matches the where clause.  Thus the where clause fields in tblOrderData.

  Additionally however the client wants to see counts of each where clause field, and counts of the intersection of where clause fields.  "count of MOB AND Kids_1_3", Count of MOB and Kids_4_7" etc. If I have 4 where clause fields I would have a 4x4 matrix with counts of the intersections.  5 where clause fields would give me a 5x5 matrix of counts of intersections.

  He thinks of it as a table where the column headers are the where clause field names and the row headers are the where clause field names.  I am pretty sure I do not know how to do this in SQL.

  Is this possible in SQL?  It is kind of a crosstab but not really.
  -- 
  John W. Colby
  www.ColbyConsulting.com

From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sun Dec  6 12:55:19 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:55:19 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Controlling the Ribbon
Message-ID: <802DA2A1877F46879312F88AC7BDEDCA@HAL9005>

Dear List:

I have these canned routines ShowRibbon and HideRibbon, which is
DoCmd.ShowToolbar and work well.  I also have MaximizeRibbon and Minimize
Ribbon which use SendKeys "^{F1}" to change the ribbon but they don't seem
to work. 

In any event, the user wanted a local preference to show or hide the Ribbon
and ShowRibbon and HideRibbon work except that instead of the ribbon
disappearing he wants to have the smaller ribbon with the Office Button and
Home, Create External Data, Database tools showing but nothing else - so a
ribbon that's not so tall and screws up the real estate on the form.

But I can't get that particular ribbon format to display.  Does anyone know
how to get that?

 

MTIA

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 

www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 

 

 


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Dec  7 07:13:53 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 08:13:53 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] windows calendar snooze times
Message-ID: <4B1CFF91.80701@colbyconsulting.com>

Dies anyone know if you can add different snooze times to the combo in windows calendar?  I use it a 
lot but it is just silly to go from 4 hours to one day for a reminder.  How about 8 hours and 12 hours?
-- 
John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Dec  7 07:57:40 2009
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 07:57:40 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] windows calendar snooze times
In-Reply-To: <4B1CFF91.80701@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B1CFF91.80701@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <0F3E4F2835FD4335B6D85D728CCE9702@danwaters>

Do you mean the Outlook calendar?

You can type in other things, with limits.

For example, you can type in 3 hours, instead of selecting 2 or 4.  Try a
few things to see how it works.

Dan



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 7:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] windows calendar snooze times

Dies anyone know if you can add different snooze times to the combo in
windows calendar?  I use it a 
lot but it is just silly to go from 4 hours to one day for a reminder.  How
about 8 hours and 12 hours?
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Dec  7 08:16:40 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 09:16:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] windows calendar snooze times
In-Reply-To: <0F3E4F2835FD4335B6D85D728CCE9702@danwaters>
References: <4B1CFF91.80701@colbyconsulting.com>
	<0F3E4F2835FD4335B6D85D728CCE9702@danwaters>
Message-ID: <4B1D0E48.4030709@colbyconsulting.com>

Nope, not outlook.  Vista has a "Windows calendar", which generally works quite well, except that 
the reminder time is not modifiable.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Dan Waters wrote:
> Do you mean the Outlook calendar?
> 
> You can type in other things, with limits.
> 
> For example, you can type in 3 hours, instead of selecting 2 or 4.  Try a
> few things to see how it works.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 7:14 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] windows calendar snooze times
> 
> Dies anyone know if you can add different snooze times to the combo in
> windows calendar?  I use it a 
> lot but it is just silly to go from 4 hours to one day for a reminder.  How
> about 8 hours and 12 hours?


From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 08:19:35 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:19:35 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] windows calendar snooze times
In-Reply-To: <4B1D0E48.4030709@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B1CFF91.80701@colbyconsulting.com>	<0F3E4F2835FD4335B6D85D728CCE9702@danwaters>
	<4B1D0E48.4030709@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <4b1d0f24.1c05d00a.14de.72bb@mx.google.com>

John,

Given that you are online most of the time, why not have a look at Google
Calendars?

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: 07 December 2009 14:17
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] windows calendar snooze times

Nope, not outlook.  Vista has a "Windows calendar", which generally works
quite well, except that 
the reminder time is not modifiable.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Dan Waters wrote:
> Do you mean the Outlook calendar?
> 
> You can type in other things, with limits.
> 
> For example, you can type in 3 hours, instead of selecting 2 or 4.  Try a
> few things to see how it works.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 7:14 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] windows calendar snooze times
> 
> Dies anyone know if you can add different snooze times to the combo in
> windows calendar?  I use it a 
> lot but it is just silly to go from 4 hours to one day for a reminder.
How
> about 8 hours and 12 hours?
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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Mon Dec  7 08:46:38 2009
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 09:46:38 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor	laptop)
In-Reply-To: <71D2590E86DC44879D1146CEB170E34D@danwaters>
References: <4B16A84D.5070404@colbyconsulting.com>	<CE50331AB1A94D4B8F8B672C324B340A@jislaptopdev><4B16F651.50401@colbyconsulting.com>
	<008a01ca73b4$ead58610$c0809230$@net><008a01ca73b4$ead58610$c0809230$@net>
	<71D2590E86DC44879D1146CEB170E34D@danwaters>
Message-ID: <4B1CCEFD.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>

How about a trackball?
 
I use these exclusively. Have been for years at home, but just about 6 mos. in the office...I was having problems w/my right wrist, so I got a trackball...problems gone! I like the logitech marble mouse, because its design fits up into my palm, and it is very comfortable.
 
I had a tiny learning curve w/it, and I took to it very fast. I believe I was playing Mah Jongg back when I first got it, and I just used that game for practice. Now it is very natural. 

>>> "Dan Waters" <dwaters at usinternet.com> 12/2/2009 8:29 PM >>>
The three things that help me the most are: 

    a lightweight mouse (wired MS 3000 Optical), 

    a gamer's mousepad - very low friction (cut down to reasonable size), 

    and a split keyboard (MS 4000).  

Before these I used to get sore wrists, but that's gone now!

Dan


From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Dec  7 08:57:54 2009
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 08:57:54 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor	laptop)
In-Reply-To: <4B1CCEFD.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
References: <4B16A84D.5070404@colbyconsulting.com>	<CE50331AB1A94D4B8F8B672C324B340A@jislaptopdev><4B16F651.50401@colbyconsulting.com><008a01ca73b4$ead58610$c0809230$@net><008a01ca73b4$ead58610$c0809230$@net><71D2590E86DC44879D1146CEB170E34D@danwaters>
	<4B1CCEFD.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <C28BC27EB0B14BCD84023DD13D0F5857@danwaters>

Hi John,

I've tried trackballs in the past, but I just couldn't get that to work even
close to as well as I could with a basic mouse.  They sure look intriguing,
I just couldn't use it.

Thanks!
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor laptop)

How about a trackball?
 
I use these exclusively. Have been for years at home, but just about 6 mos.
in the office...I was having problems w/my right wrist, so I got a
trackball...problems gone! I like the logitech marble mouse, because its
design fits up into my palm, and it is very comfortable.
 
I had a tiny learning curve w/it, and I took to it very fast. I believe I
was playing Mah Jongg back when I first got it, and I just used that game
for practice. Now it is very natural. 

>>> "Dan Waters" <dwaters at usinternet.com> 12/2/2009 8:29 PM >>>
The three things that help me the most are: 

    a lightweight mouse (wired MS 3000 Optical), 

    a gamer's mousepad - very low friction (cut down to reasonable size), 

    and a split keyboard (MS 4000).  

Before these I used to get sore wrists, but that's gone now!

Dan
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Dec  7 10:11:33 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 08:11:33 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor	laptop)
In-Reply-To: <C28BC27EB0B14BCD84023DD13D0F5857@danwaters>
References: <4B16A84D.5070404@colbyconsulting.com>	<CE50331AB1A94D4B8F8B672C324B340A@jislaptopdev><4B16F651.50401@colbyconsulting.com><008a01ca73b4$ead58610$c0809230$@net><008a01ca73b4$ead58610$c0809230$@net><71D2590E86DC44879D1146CEB170E34D@danwaters><4B1CCEFD.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
	<C28BC27EB0B14BCD84023DD13D0F5857@danwaters>
Message-ID: <8F5C771C1B4248B3A2C0C0AC4CFE2B47@HAL9005>

Try the one with the ball under the thumb instead of in the middle.  That's
what I use and I get all the precision I need.  You can also of course, set
the precision like any mouse so that the mouse doesn't move as far when you
move the ball.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:58 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor laptop)

Hi John,

I've tried trackballs in the past, but I just couldn't get that to work even
close to as well as I could with a basic mouse.  They sure look intriguing,
I just couldn't use it.

Thanks!
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:47 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor laptop)

How about a trackball?
 
I use these exclusively. Have been for years at home, but just about 6 mos.
in the office...I was having problems w/my right wrist, so I got a
trackball...problems gone! I like the logitech marble mouse, because its
design fits up into my palm, and it is very comfortable.
 
I had a tiny learning curve w/it, and I took to it very fast. I believe I
was playing Mah Jongg back when I first got it, and I just used that game
for practice. Now it is very natural. 

>>> "Dan Waters" <dwaters at usinternet.com> 12/2/2009 8:29 PM >>>
The three things that help me the most are: 

    a lightweight mouse (wired MS 3000 Optical), 

    a gamer's mousepad - very low friction (cut down to reasonable size), 

    and a split keyboard (MS 4000).  

Before these I used to get sore wrists, but that's gone now!

Dan
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Dec  7 10:17:24 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:17:24 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor	laptop)
Message-ID: <sb1d38c9.056@cactus.dk>

Hi Rocky

What to do if you have two thumbs per hand!?

/gustav

>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 07-12-2009 17:11 >>>
Try the one with the ball under the thumb instead of in the middle.  That's
what I use and I get all the precision I need.  You can also of course, set
the precision like any mouse so that the mouse doesn't move as far when you
move the ball.

Rocky




From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 10:28:27 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:28:27 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor	laptop)
In-Reply-To: <sb1d38c9.056@cactus.dk>
References: <sb1d38c9.056@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <4b1d2d38.1818d00a.658c.53d9@mx.google.com>

Rightthumbclick and leftthumbclick.

Different menus per thumb.  Beats allfingersandthumbs

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: 07 December 2009 16:17
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor laptop)

Hi Rocky

What to do if you have two thumbs per hand!?

/gustav

>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 07-12-2009 17:11 >>>
Try the one with the ball under the thumb instead of in the middle.  That's
what I use and I get all the precision I need.  You can also of course, set
the precision like any mouse so that the mouse doesn't move as far when you
move the ball.

Rocky


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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Dec  7 10:52:45 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 08:52:45 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor	laptop)
In-Reply-To: <sb1d38c9.056@cactus.dk>
References: <sb1d38c9.056@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <AFF7A8ECEC6547C69A320D6C811F0264@HAL9005>

Well, in that case you'd need more balls.


Or see a surgeon.  Or join the circus...

R

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:17 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor laptop)

Hi Rocky

What to do if you have two thumbs per hand!?

/gustav

>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 07-12-2009 17:11 >>>
Try the one with the ball under the thumb instead of in the middle.  That's
what I use and I get all the precision I need.  You can also of course, set
the precision like any mouse so that the mouse doesn't move as far when you
move the ball.

Rocky


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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Dec  7 11:25:31 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:25:31 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor	laptop)
Message-ID: <sb1d48c0.058@cactus.dk>

Hi Rocky

But some have five thumbs ... will that call for a ball game?

/gustav


>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 07-12-2009 17:52 >>>
Well, in that case you'd need more balls.


Or see a surgeon.  Or join the circus...

R

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:17 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor laptop)

Hi Rocky

What to do if you have two thumbs per hand!?

/gustav

>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 07-12-2009 17:11 >>>
Try the one with the ball under the thumb instead of in the middle.  That's
what I use and I get all the precision I need.  You can also of course, set
the precision like any mouse so that the mouse doesn't move as far when you
move the ball.

Rocky




From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Mon Dec  7 11:34:02 2009
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 12:34:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor	laptop)
In-Reply-To: <8F5C771C1B4248B3A2C0C0AC4CFE2B47@HAL9005>
References: <4B16A84D.5070404@colbyconsulting.com>	<CE50331AB1A94D4B8F8B672C324B340A@jislaptopdev><4B16F651.50401@colbyconsulting.com><008a01ca73b4$ead58610$c0809230$@net><008a01ca73b4$ead58610$c0809230$@net><71D2590E86DC44879D1146CEB170E34D@danwaters><4B1CCEFD.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com><C28BC27EB0B14BCD84023DD13D0F5857@danwaters>
	<8F5C771C1B4248B3A2C0C0AC4CFE2B47@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <DAF3D797A80B45BFA7CBF82D62677DF0@jislaptopdev>

...I much prefer the one with the ball in the middle ...once you've gotten 
used to it, its not only easy to use but you can swap fingers and even hands 
without much ado if one or the other does get sore or the workspace requires 
it ...I carry one with my laptop ...I tried the thumb ball but my thumb just 
isn't as precise as my finger in controlling the ball and you can't swap 
digits or hands.

...sometimes when doing pixel level manipulations with Adobe, I'll break out 
a mini-mouse that gives me higher precision that I can get with any of the 
trackballs ...but over time I've learned to be much more precise with the 
trackball itself.

William

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 11:11 AM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor	laptop)

> Try the one with the ball under the thumb instead of in the middle. 
> That's
> what I use and I get all the precision I need.  You can also of course, 
> set
> the precision like any mouse so that the mouse doesn't move as far when 
> you
> move the ball.
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:58 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor laptop)
>
> Hi John,
>
> I've tried trackballs in the past, but I just couldn't get that to work 
> even
> close to as well as I could with a basic mouse.  They sure look 
> intriguing,
> I just couldn't use it.
>
> Thanks!
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:47 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor laptop)
>
> How about a trackball?
>
> I use these exclusively. Have been for years at home, but just about 6 
> mos.
> in the office...I was having problems w/my right wrist, so I got a
> trackball...problems gone! I like the logitech marble mouse, because its
> design fits up into my palm, and it is very comfortable.
>
> I had a tiny learning curve w/it, and I took to it very fast. I believe I
> was playing Mah Jongg back when I first got it, and I just used that game
> for practice. Now it is very natural.
>
>>>> "Dan Waters" <dwaters at usinternet.com> 12/2/2009 8:29 PM >>>
> The three things that help me the most are:
>
>    a lightweight mouse (wired MS 3000 Optical),
>
>    a gamer's mousepad - very low friction (cut down to reasonable size),
>
>    and a split keyboard (MS 4000).
>
> Before these I used to get sore wrists, but that's gone now!
>
> Dan
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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Mon Dec  7 11:35:21 2009
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 12:35:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor	laptop)
In-Reply-To: <4b1d2d38.1818d00a.658c.53d9@mx.google.com>
References: <sb1d38c9.056@cactus.dk>
	<4b1d2d38.1818d00a.658c.53d9@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <4760F177B52246CCA9130B3E5232BADB@jislaptopdev>

...and if you have two left thumbs?

William

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Max Wanadoo" <max.wanadoo at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 11:28 AM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor	laptop)

> Rightthumbclick and leftthumbclick.
>
> Different menus per thumb.  Beats allfingersandthumbs
>
> Max
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent: 07 December 2009 16:17
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor laptop)
>
> Hi Rocky
>
> What to do if you have two thumbs per hand!?
>
> /gustav
>
>>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 07-12-2009 17:11 >>>
> Try the one with the ball under the thumb instead of in the middle. 
> That's
> what I use and I get all the precision I need.  You can also of course, 
> set
> the precision like any mouse so that the mouse doesn't move as far when 
> you
> move the ball.
>
> Rocky
>
>
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From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 11:50:29 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 17:50:29 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor	laptop)
In-Reply-To: <4760F177B52246CCA9130B3E5232BADB@jislaptopdev>
References: <sb1d38c9.056@cactus.dk>	<4b1d2d38.1818d00a.658c.53d9@mx.google.com>
	<4760F177B52246CCA9130B3E5232BADB@jislaptopdev>
Message-ID: <4b1d4074.1c05d00a.0bb1.fffffb9c@mx.google.com>

Twiddle them.

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
Sent: 07 December 2009 17:35
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor laptop)

...and if you have two left thumbs?

William

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Max Wanadoo" <max.wanadoo at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 11:28 AM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor
laptop)

> Rightthumbclick and leftthumbclick.
>
> Different menus per thumb.  Beats allfingersandthumbs
>
> Max
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent: 07 December 2009 16:17
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor laptop)
>
> Hi Rocky
>
> What to do if you have two thumbs per hand!?
>
> /gustav
>
>>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 07-12-2009 17:11 >>>
> Try the one with the ball under the thumb instead of in the middle. 
> That's
> what I use and I get all the precision I need.  You can also of course, 
> set
> the precision like any mouse so that the mouse doesn't move as far when 
> you
> move the ball.
>
> Rocky
>
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Dec  7 11:55:18 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:55:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems
In-Reply-To: <AFF7A8ECEC6547C69A320D6C811F0264@HAL9005>
References: <sb1d38c9.056@cactus.dk> <AFF7A8ECEC6547C69A320D6C811F0264@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <4B1D4186.9090300@colbyconsulting.com>

ROTFL.  Rocky you are due to get in trouble!  ;)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Rocky Smolin wrote:
> Well, in that case you'd need more balls.
> 
> 
> Or see a surgeon.  Or join the circus...
> 
> R
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:17 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor laptop)
> 
> Hi Rocky
> 
> What to do if you have two thumbs per hand!?
> 
> /gustav
> 
>>>> rockysmolin at bchacc.com 07-12-2009 17:11 >>>
> Try the one with the ball under the thumb instead of in the middle.  That's
> what I use and I get all the precision I need.  You can also of course, set
> the precision like any mouse so that the mouse doesn't move as far when you
> move the ball.
> 
> Rocky
> 
> 
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From jimdettman at verizon.net  Mon Dec  7 12:35:02 2009
From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:35:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor	laptop)
In-Reply-To: <DAF3D797A80B45BFA7CBF82D62677DF0@jislaptopdev>
References: <4B16A84D.5070404@colbyconsulting.com>
	<CE50331AB1A94D4B8F8B672C324B340A@jislaptopdev><4B16F651.50401@colbyconsulting.com><008a01ca73b4$ead58610$c0809230$@net><008a01ca73b4$ead58610$c0809230$@net><71D2590E86DC44879D1146CEB170E34D@danwaters><4B1CCEFD.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com><C28BC27EB0B14BCD84023DD13D0F5857@danwaters>
	<8F5C771C1B4248B3A2C0C0AC4CFE2B47@HAL9005>
	<DAF3D797A80B45BFA7CBF82D62677DF0@jislaptopdev>
Message-ID: <009B09331A3B461C8E22FB72C1FB19B5@XPS>

<<...I much prefer the one with the ball in the middle ...once you've gotten

used to it, its not only easy to use but you can swap fingers and even hands

without much ado if one or the other does get sore or the workspace requires

it ...I carry one with my laptop ...I tried the thumb ball but my thumb just

isn't as precise as my finger in controlling the ball and you can't swap 
digits or hands.>>

 Ditto here....I did have a thumb one for a while, but found it aggravated
my thumb.  With the center ball I can easily (and do constantly) switch
fingers)

  I guess what it all boils down to is you need to try different options and
find out what works for you.  After all, everyone is different.

  Thankfully, we do have the options<g>

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 12:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor laptop)

...I much prefer the one with the ball in the middle ...once you've gotten 
used to it, its not only easy to use but you can swap fingers and even hands

without much ado if one or the other does get sore or the workspace requires

it ...I carry one with my laptop ...I tried the thumb ball but my thumb just

isn't as precise as my finger in controlling the ball and you can't swap 
digits or hands.

...sometimes when doing pixel level manipulations with Adobe, I'll break out

a mini-mouse that gives me higher precision that I can get with any of the 
trackballs ...but over time I've learned to be much more precise with the 
trackball itself.

William

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 11:11 AM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor
laptop)

> Try the one with the ball under the thumb instead of in the middle. 
> That's
> what I use and I get all the precision I need.  You can also of course, 
> set
> the precision like any mouse so that the mouse doesn't move as far when 
> you
> move the ball.
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 6:58 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor laptop)
>
> Hi John,
>
> I've tried trackballs in the past, but I just couldn't get that to work 
> even
> close to as well as I could with a basic mouse.  They sure look 
> intriguing,
> I just couldn't use it.
>
> Thanks!
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:47 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Avoiding Hand Problems (was: Dual monitor laptop)
>
> How about a trackball?
>
> I use these exclusively. Have been for years at home, but just about 6 
> mos.
> in the office...I was having problems w/my right wrist, so I got a
> trackball...problems gone! I like the logitech marble mouse, because its
> design fits up into my palm, and it is very comfortable.
>
> I had a tiny learning curve w/it, and I took to it very fast. I believe I
> was playing Mah Jongg back when I first got it, and I just used that game
> for practice. Now it is very natural.
>
>>>> "Dan Waters" <dwaters at usinternet.com> 12/2/2009 8:29 PM >>>
> The three things that help me the most are:
>
>    a lightweight mouse (wired MS 3000 Optical),
>
>    a gamer's mousepad - very low friction (cut down to reasonable size),
>
>    and a split keyboard (MS 4000).
>
> Before these I used to get sore wrists, but that's gone now!
>
> Dan
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From nhosburg at fit.edu  Mon Dec  7 12:40:12 2009
From: nhosburg at fit.edu (Nathan  Hosburgh)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:40:12 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Import errors from Excel
Message-ID: <7F3C553FB6954E49B70451CAB28FDCD2C104A2DFD7@EXBE.fit.edu>

Hi everyone - I'm rather new to the list and don't have incredible experience with Access.

I've exported data to Excel from a website.  All the data looks ok when it's in Excel, but when I import it as a new table into Access there are errors.  There is a date field that has various date formats: 1995, SUMMER 2002, SEPT-OCT 2005, Dec-08, etc.  I'm not concerned about normalizing the data into consistent date formats... I can leave it as text.  I have done this before with other tables and the data came through fine in Access.  But, this time, some of the dates are coming through in Access as 5-digit numbers.

It's really bizarre.  This happened to me originally a couple months ago, then I did something to make it import correctly.  Now, of course, I cannot remember what it was that I did.  I have a feeling it has something to do with how I save the Excel file, but I'm not sure.

Thanks,

Nate



From pharold at proftesting.com  Mon Dec  7 12:48:39 2009
From: pharold at proftesting.com (Perry L Harold)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:48:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Import errors from Excel
In-Reply-To: <7F3C553FB6954E49B70451CAB28FDCD2C104A2DFD7@EXBE.fit.edu>
References: <7F3C553FB6954E49B70451CAB28FDCD2C104A2DFD7@EXBE.fit.edu>
Message-ID: <A13E55BC636DE945B76BEE728A33F47B788E47@exchange.ptiorl.local>

 
If you want the field to remain text go to the Excel sheet and make the
column text.  Or identify the field as a text field in the import
layout.  Otherwise Access will usually assume the field data is a
number.

Perry 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nathan
Hosburgh
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 1:40 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Import errors from Excel

Hi everyone - I'm rather new to the list and don't have incredible
experience with Access.

I've exported data to Excel from a website.  All the data looks ok when
it's in Excel, but when I import it as a new table into Access there are
errors.  There is a date field that has various date formats: 1995,
SUMMER 2002, SEPT-OCT 2005, Dec-08, etc.  I'm not concerned about
normalizing the data into consistent date formats... I can leave it as
text.  I have done this before with other tables and the data came
through fine in Access.  But, this time, some of the dates are coming
through in Access as 5-digit numbers.

It's really bizarre.  This happened to me originally a couple months
ago, then I did something to make it import correctly.  Now, of course,
I cannot remember what it was that I did.  I have a feeling it has
something to do with how I save the Excel file, but I'm not sure.

Thanks,

Nate

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From garykjos at gmail.com  Mon Dec  7 13:07:32 2009
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:07:32 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Import errors from Excel
In-Reply-To: <7F3C553FB6954E49B70451CAB28FDCD2C104A2DFD7@EXBE.fit.edu>
References: <7F3C553FB6954E49B70451CAB28FDCD2C104A2DFD7@EXBE.fit.edu>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950912071107h5b9b664cqdbb9d7505cd574a6@mail.gmail.com>

The trick I use for things like this is to insert a row above the
first real data row in your Excel file and load something like a sting
of XXXX's into the date field so the import processor will see that as
text and not try to make it into a number. This is needed for Credit
Cards and phone numbers and social security numbers and zip codes.
Access Import will look at the data in the first row and use that to
set the field type in the Access table. So use that to your advantage
and fool it into doing what YOU want it to. Then after the import is
done, go and delete that record from the result data table. Another
recommendation I have is to import into a table that is only used to
receive the import. Then run another query to load it into the final
table you want the data to really reside in. That way you can format
the fields exactly the way you want them in the real table.

Good luck and welcome to the AccessD List Nathan.

GK

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Nathan  Hosburgh <nhosburg at fit.edu> wrote:
> Hi everyone - I'm rather new to the list and don't have incredible experience with Access.
>
> I've exported data to Excel from a website. ?All the data looks ok when it's in Excel, but when I import it as a new table into Access there are errors. ?There is a date field that has various date formats: 1995, SUMMER 2002, SEPT-OCT 2005, Dec-08, etc. ?I'm not concerned about normalizing the data into consistent date formats... I can leave it as text. ?I have done this before with other tables and the data came through fine in Access. ?But, this time, some of the dates are coming through in Access as 5-digit numbers.
>
> It's really bizarre. ?This happened to me originally a couple months ago, then I did something to make it import correctly. ?Now, of course, I cannot remember what it was that I did. ?I have a feeling it has something to do with how I save the Excel file, but I'm not sure.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nate
>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Dec  7 13:18:38 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:18:38 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Import errors from Excel
In-Reply-To: <7F3C553FB6954E49B70451CAB28FDCD2C104A2DFD7@EXBE.fit.edu>
References: <7F3C553FB6954E49B70451CAB28FDCD2C104A2DFD7@EXBE.fit.edu>
Message-ID: <4B1D550E.3030008@colbyconsulting.com>

Welcome to the list Nate.

And welcome to the suckiest data transport mechanism on this earth - Excel.

There are a whole raft of issues with using Excel as a data transport.  The first thing to know is 
that Excel uses the data in the first few (10 I believe) rows of data in each column to determine 
what kind of data is in that column.  Thus... if you have two otherwise identical spreadsheets with 
(for example) what you think are zip codes... zips are numbers right?

Silly boy...

Problem 1:  Numbers in Excel will drop the leading zero when you import to Access.  So you hope that 
the spreadsheet was filled in with TEXT (not numbers).  But...

Problem #2: It is darned difficult to tell whether the cell contains numbers or text

Problem #3; If the data in the column begins with characters, then all is good, when imported into 
excel, the data will be brought in as data type text.  Otherwise... the column will be set to an 
integer (and lose the leading zeros).

Problem #4: What happens if the data switches in mid stream, part way down the column the data 
switches from text to numeric?  Well... the import mechanism in Access may decide that you have a 
format change and puke.  Just not import the data, but only for that column.  It will nicely give 
you a table of import exceptions, with row / column / value.

Ahhh... Nate, my condolences go out to you.  Receiving data in a true spreadsheet just sucks.

CSV is only marginally better, but it is better.  Why?  Because the "data type" issue goes away. 
There are only numbers and not numbers.  However (I believe) the import mechanism in Access still 
tries to use the "first few rows" trick to determine the data type so you could still have the field 
defined as some data type based on the first few rows and then have the data switch somewhere down 
the sheet.  And in this case (zips) would decide that they are numbers and... drop the leading zeros.

Another example you could have a date which looks like 01012009 in the first few rows.  Access MIGHT 
pick up that this is a data (or it might not) and if not it would decide that it is a number and 
make the data type in the import table be an integer data type.  Except that somewhere down the data 
it switches to text (1 Jan 1980).  Sigh!  Not imported, exception table time.

Anyhow, as you can see this is not a trivial subject.

Your best bet is to define the table that it will be imported to, define an import spec and DEFINE 
that all data in all fields are text, and then convert to the right thing from inside of Access once 
the data is in.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Nathan Hosburgh wrote:
> Hi everyone - I'm rather new to the list and don't have incredible experience with Access.
> 
> I've exported data to Excel from a website.  All the data looks ok when it's in Excel, but when I import it as a new table into Access there are errors.  There is a date field that has various date formats: 1995, SUMMER 2002, SEPT-OCT 2005, Dec-08, etc.  I'm not concerned about normalizing the data into consistent date formats... I can leave it as text.  I have done this before with other tables and the data came through fine in Access.  But, this time, some of the dates are coming through in Access as 5-digit numbers.
> 
> It's really bizarre.  This happened to me originally a couple months ago, then I did something to make it import correctly.  Now, of course, I cannot remember what it was that I did.  I have a feeling it has something to do with how I save the Excel file, but I'm not sure.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Nate
> 


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Dec  7 15:26:05 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 07:26:05 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Import errors from Excel
In-Reply-To: <4B1D550E.3030008@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <7F3C553FB6954E49B70451CAB28FDCD2C104A2DFD7@EXBE.fit.edu>,
	<4B1D550E.3030008@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <4B1D72ED.22032.21161CF0@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

I've been bitten there too.  I had a spreadsheet of lab reports for oil palm leaf analysis.
One of the columns had names such as "Sep 2" and "Sep 4".   The import very kindly 
converted these to dates :-(

-- 
Stuart

On 7 Dec 2009 at 14:18, jwcolby wrote:

> Problem #3; If the data in the column begins with characters, then all is good, when imported into 
> excel, the data will be brought in as data type text.  Otherwise... the column will be set to an 
> integer (and lose the leading zeros).
> 



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Dec  7 15:49:05 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:49:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Import errors from Excel
In-Reply-To: <4B1D72ED.22032.21161CF0@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <7F3C553FB6954E49B70451CAB28FDCD2C104A2DFD7@EXBE.fit.edu>,
	<4B1D550E.3030008@colbyconsulting.com>
	<4B1D72ED.22032.21161CF0@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <4B1D7851.8040508@colbyconsulting.com>

LOL, well of course.  Never considered that but Access is always striving to please.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> I've been bitten there too.  I had a spreadsheet of lab reports for oil palm leaf analysis.
> One of the columns had names such as "Sep 2" and "Sep 4".   The import very kindly 
> converted these to dates :-(
> 


From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Dec  7 15:59:27 2009
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 15:59:27 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Import errors from Excel
In-Reply-To: <7F3C553FB6954E49B70451CAB28FDCD2C104A2DFD7@EXBE.fit.edu>
References: <7F3C553FB6954E49B70451CAB28FDCD2C104A2DFD7@EXBE.fit.edu>
Message-ID: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E329708BB@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>

The simplest way to address that is to create an Import/Export spec for the Excel worksheet and make sure that column is specified as text.  Otherwise, unless you are importing into an existing table, Access will use the imputed datatype of the first value in that column to decide how to handle it.  

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Hosburgh
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:40 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Import errors from Excel

Hi everyone - I'm rather new to the list and don't have incredible experience with Access.

I've exported data to Excel from a website.  All the data looks ok when it's in Excel, but when I import it as a new table into Access there are errors.  There is a date field that has various date formats: 1995, SUMMER 2002, SEPT-OCT 2005, Dec-08, etc.  I'm not concerned about normalizing the data into consistent date formats... I can leave it as text.  I have done this before with other tables and the data came through fine in Access.  But, this time, some of the dates are coming through in Access as 5-digit numbers.

It's really bizarre.  This happened to me originally a couple months ago, then I did something to make it import correctly.  Now, of course, I cannot remember what it was that I did.  I have a feeling it has something to do with how I save the Excel file, but I'm not sure.

Thanks,

Nate

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From Darryl.Collins at anz.com  Mon Dec  7 17:00:01 2009
From: Darryl.Collins at anz.com (Collins, Darryl)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:00:01 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Import errors from Excel
In-Reply-To: <7F3C553FB6954E49B70451CAB28FDCD2C104A2DFD7@EXBE.fit.edu>
Message-ID: <6DC4725FDCDD72428D6114F1B6CC6E8101688C98@EXUAU020HWT110.oceania.corp.anz.com>

 

"in Access as 5-digit numbers"

If Excel is reading converting the date text into actual dates, the
underlying value will be a 5 digit number.  If you are then upload that
date into Access without forcing into a date format (even IF IT IS a
date format in Excel), it is likely to be imported as a 5 digit number.
If you re-export this number to excel will can re-read it as a date,
although you would be far better off loading it into access as
yyyy-mm-dd format to enforce date compatibility.

Excel often tries to be 'helpful' when reading text and values and will
auto convert stuff for for.  This is often a right PITA and can cause
major problems.  I wish Excel would let me do the thinking and it can
focus on mashing the numbers.  Bah!

If you need help on how to load dates into Access from Excel using ADO,
email the list and I can post some samples for you.

Regards
Darryl.




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nathan
Hosburgh
Sent: Tuesday, 8 December 2009 5:40 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Import errors from Excel

Hi everyone - I'm rather new to the list and don't have incredible
experience with Access.

I've exported data to Excel from a website.  All the data looks ok when
it's in Excel, but when I import it as a new table into Access there are
errors.  There is a date field that has various date formats: 1995,
SUMMER 2002, SEPT-OCT 2005, Dec-08, etc.  I'm not concerned about
normalizing the data into consistent date formats... I can leave it as
text.  I have done this before with other tables and the data came
through fine in Access.  But, this time, some of the dates are coming
through in Access as 5-digit numbers.

It's really bizarre.  This happened to me originally a couple months
ago, then I did something to make it import correctly.  Now, of course,
I cannot remember what it was that I did.  I have a feeling it has
something to do with how I save the Excel file, but I'm not sure.

Thanks,

Nate

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From Darryl.Collins at anz.com  Mon Dec  7 17:05:23 2009
From: Darryl.Collins at anz.com (Collins, Darryl)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 10:05:23 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Import errors from Excel
In-Reply-To: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E329708BB@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
Message-ID: <6DC4725FDCDD72428D6114F1B6CC6E8101688C99@EXUAU020HWT110.oceania.corp.anz.com>



I ususally load the data from Excel line at a time via ADO. It is slower
than some of the other transfer methods, but far more reliable as you
can verify and enforce the type of each piece of data you are uploading
before sending to the back end database.  

I will take accuracy and reliability over speed anyday.  There is no
point is being fastest but wrong IMHO.  Besides, it is not that much
slower than the fastest method to be pesky.

Regards
Darryl
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
Foust
Sent: Tuesday, 8 December 2009 8:59 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Import errors from Excel

The simplest way to address that is to create an Import/Export spec for
the Excel worksheet and make sure that column is specified as text.
Otherwise, unless you are importing into an existing table, Access will
use the imputed datatype of the first value in that column to decide how
to handle it.  

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Nathan
Hosburgh
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:40 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Import errors from Excel

Hi everyone - I'm rather new to the list and don't have incredible
experience with Access.

I've exported data to Excel from a website.  All the data looks ok when
it's in Excel, but when I import it as a new table into Access there are
errors.  There is a date field that has various date formats: 1995,
SUMMER 2002, SEPT-OCT 2005, Dec-08, etc.  I'm not concerned about
normalizing the data into consistent date formats... I can leave it as
text.  I have done this before with other tables and the data came
through fine in Access.  But, this time, some of the dates are coming
through in Access as 5-digit numbers.

It's really bizarre.  This happened to me originally a couple months
ago, then I did something to make it import correctly.  Now, of course,
I cannot remember what it was that I did.  I have a feeling it has
something to do with how I save the Excel file, but I'm not sure.

Thanks,

Nate

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Dec  7 19:14:42 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 17:14:42 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Label Printer
In-Reply-To: <03cb01ca72c6$1508a6a0$3f19f3e0$@net>
References: <0C2F2F2E52E14D23A715C878DC922A19@HAL9005>
	<03cb01ca72c6$1508a6a0$3f19f3e0$@net>
Message-ID: <33FE509F36E14A5EA8FDEC12C013FA30@HAL9005>

The whole thing turned out much simpler than I thought.  I got a Dymo
Labelprinter 450 Turbo (Turbo yet!  Have no idea what that means to the
Dymo). Anyway, I loaded the Dymo driver which installed it as a printer.  I
made the label in access as a report - specified the Dymo printer instead of
the default and viola! Label.  Had to futz with the setting a bit -
landscape and there's a check box that says 'Print data only' which stopped
it from spitting out 3 blank labels - think it was doing a form feed. On an
11" page.

Anyway, it was a piece o' cake.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 12:37 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Label Printer

Hi Rocky,
I've used Dymo and Seiko label printers. Dymos are easy and readily
available. A number of B&M carry them and the supplies plus many web
vendors. Dymo has a free developers download with samples.

HTH
John B

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Dec  7 19:16:02 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 17:16:02 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Controlling the Ribbon
Message-ID: <B060223D1BF1427A9B27C8B1D24C6C01@HAL9005>

 Dear List:

I have these canned routines ShowRibbon and HideRibbon, which is
DoCmd.ShowToolbar and work well.  I also have MaximizeRibbon and Minimize
Ribbon which use SendKeys "^{F1}" to change the ribbon but they don't seem
to work. 

In any event, the user wanted a local preference to show or hide the Ribbon
and ShowRibbon and HideRibbon work except that instead of the ribbon
disappearing he wants to have the smaller ribbon with the Office Button and
Home, Create External Data, Database tools showing but nothing else - so a
ribbon that's not so tall and screws up the real estate on the form.

But I can't get that particular ribbon format to display.  Does anyone know
how to get that?

 

MTIA

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 

www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 

 

 


From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Tue Dec  8 01:55:32 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 07:55:32 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Thin SQL Client for Linux
In-Reply-To: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E329708BB@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
References: <7F3C553FB6954E49B70451CAB28FDCD2C104A2DFD7@EXBE.fit.edu>
	<AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E329708BB@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
Message-ID: <4b1e0681.0e67f10a.4eb2.ffffe06b@mx.google.com>

OT: Thin SQL Client for Linux

Can anybody find me a good THIN sql client for Linux I need to find one in
the next day, I am stuck on an escalation and we really need this. So any
help appreciated.

Thanks

Max



From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Tue Dec  8 02:25:16 2009
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 08:25:16 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Controlling the Ribbon
In-Reply-To: <B060223D1BF1427A9B27C8B1D24C6C01@HAL9005>
References: <B060223D1BF1427A9B27C8B1D24C6C01@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB0829502B0D385FF@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk>

Rocky

You might have to create a custom ribbon containing your commands and then turn it of and on.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=291704cb-655a-491f-8089-566be7d2e9b0&displaylang=en

http://word.mvps.org/FAQS/Customization/CustomizeRibbon.htm


martin


Martin WP Reid
Information Services
The Library at Queen's
Tel : 02890976174
Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk
Sharepoint Training Portal
________________________________________
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin [rockysmolin at bchacc.com]
Sent: 08 December 2009 01:16
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Controlling the Ribbon

 Dear List:

I have these canned routines ShowRibbon and HideRibbon, which is
DoCmd.ShowToolbar and work well.  I also have MaximizeRibbon and Minimize
Ribbon which use SendKeys "^{F1}" to change the ribbon but they don't seem
to work.

In any event, the user wanted a local preference to show or hide the Ribbon
and ShowRibbon and HideRibbon work except that instead of the ribbon
disappearing he wants to have the smaller ribbon with the Office Button and
Home, Create External Data, Database tools showing but nothing else - so a
ribbon that's not so tall and screws up the real estate on the form.

But I can't get that particular ribbon format to display.  Does anyone know
how to get that?



MTIA

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/>

www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/>


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Dec  8 07:09:12 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 08:09:12 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Common Table Expressions - The solution to one of my
	problems
Message-ID: <4B1E4FF8.9040602@colbyconsulting.com>


http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/T-SQL/68651/

It looks way easy!

-- 
John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Dec  8 07:52:24 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 05:52:24 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Controlling the Ribbon
In-Reply-To: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB0829502B0D385FF@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk>
References: <B060223D1BF1427A9B27C8B1D24C6C01@HAL9005>
	<631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB0829502B0D385FF@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <C1A5686EE64E47BAAF6F76804EDF8D33@HAL9005>

Ack.  I was afraid of that.  I don't want to mess with it at all because
then I have to fire up 2007 on machine 2 and actually use it.  But the add
in looks to be not too painful.

Tks.

R 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Martin Reid
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 12:25 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Controlling the Ribbon

Rocky

You might have to create a custom ribbon containing your commands and then
turn it of and on.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=291704cb-655a-491f-
8089-566be7d2e9b0&displaylang=en

http://word.mvps.org/FAQS/Customization/CustomizeRibbon.htm


martin


Martin WP Reid
Information Services
The Library at Queen's
Tel : 02890976174
Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk
Sharepoint Training Portal
________________________________________
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
[rockysmolin at bchacc.com]
Sent: 08 December 2009 01:16
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Controlling the Ribbon

 Dear List:

I have these canned routines ShowRibbon and HideRibbon, which is
DoCmd.ShowToolbar and work well.  I also have MaximizeRibbon and Minimize
Ribbon which use SendKeys "^{F1}" to change the ribbon but they don't seem
to work.

In any event, the user wanted a local preference to show or hide the Ribbon
and ShowRibbon and HideRibbon work except that instead of the ribbon
disappearing he wants to have the smaller ribbon with the Office Button and
Home, Create External Data, Database tools showing but nothing else - so a
ribbon that's not so tall and screws up the real estate on the form.

But I can't get that particular ribbon format to display.  Does anyone know
how to get that?



MTIA

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/>

www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Dec  8 11:15:17 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:15:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Event not supported
Message-ID: <4B1E89A5.7040202@colbyconsulting.com>

Well... I installed Office 2007 to my server, in it's own separate directory as we always do...

And it broke Access 2003.

"does not support set of events" for anything having to do with a form, buttons, events, you name 
it.  BROKE!@#$%^&

And of course I discover this when I am in a rush to get an order out.

So I yanked all of the code into a module, and ran the code manually from the debug window passing 
in hard coded values for things that were coming from the form.

The things we go through!

-- 
John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


From Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com  Tue Dec  8 11:21:54 2009
From: Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:21:54 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Event not supported
In-Reply-To: <4B1E89A5.7040202@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B1E89A5.7040202@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E240FFAE1@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>

After you get 2003 fixed, perhaps you should install 2007 on a VM.

Lambert 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 12:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Event not supported

Well... I installed Office 2007 to my server, in it's own separate directory as we always do...

And it broke Access 2003.

"does not support set of events" for anything having to do with a form, buttons, events, you name it.  BROKE!@#$%^&

And of course I discover this when I am in a rush to get an order out.

So I yanked all of the code into a module, and ran the code manually from the debug window passing in hard coded values for things that were coming from the form.

The things we go through!

--
John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com
--
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http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
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From bill_patten at embarqmail.com  Tue Dec  8 11:53:17 2009
From: bill_patten at embarqmail.com (Bill Patten)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:53:17 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Common Table Expressions - The solution to one of
	myproblems
In-Reply-To: <4B1E4FF8.9040602@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B1E4FF8.9040602@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <BA0985D5C27E41FCB28E839BE5C30D6F@BPCS>

Hey John,

Thanks, just what I needed for a project I'm working on.
I have to start reading more than the editorials in the news letter.


Bill

--------------------------------------------------
From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 5:09 AM
To: "Dba-Sqlserver" <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>; "Access Developers 
discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Common Table Expressions - The solution to one of 
myproblems


http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/T-SQL/68651/

It looks way easy!

-- 
John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com
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From nhosburg at fit.edu  Tue Dec  8 13:19:56 2009
From: nhosburg at fit.edu (Nathan  Hosburgh)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:19:56 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Import errors from Excel
Message-ID: <7F3C553FB6954E49B70451CAB28FDCD2C104C87616@EXBE.fit.edu>

Thanks, all, for responding to my query.  I've definitely gained some insight into the idiosyncrasies of Excel.  I was able to get this to work - this list is a great resource!

Nate



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Dec  8 14:09:22 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:09:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Event not supported
In-Reply-To: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E240FFAE1@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
References: <4B1E89A5.7040202@colbyconsulting.com>
	<B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E240FFAE1@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
Message-ID: <4B1EB272.5040502@colbyconsulting.com>

LOL.  I will try running it in 2007 and see if the database works in that.  From what I am reading 
this is a "corrupted dll" issue.  I have been working in this Access database in Access 2003 for 
several years.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Heenan, Lambert wrote:
> After you get 2003 fixed, perhaps you should install 2007 on a VM.
> 
> Lambert 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 12:15 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Event not supported
> 
> Well... I installed Office 2007 to my server, in it's own separate directory as we always do...
> 
> And it broke Access 2003.
> 
> "does not support set of events" for anything having to do with a form, buttons, events, you name it.  BROKE!@#$%^&
> 
> And of course I discover this when I am in a rush to get an order out.
> 
> So I yanked all of the code into a module, and ran the code manually from the debug window passing in hard coded values for things that were coming from the form.
> 
> The things we go through!
> 
> --
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> --
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Dec  8 14:12:30 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:12:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Common Table Expressions - The solution to one
	of	myproblems
In-Reply-To: <BA0985D5C27E41FCB28E839BE5C30D6F@BPCS>
References: <4B1E4FF8.9040602@colbyconsulting.com>
	<BA0985D5C27E41FCB28E839BE5C30D6F@BPCS>
Message-ID: <4B1EB32E.3020306@colbyconsulting.com>

I actually used this for the first time today and it worked just as advertised.  Way cool!

I have to do an update of a field in one of my tables based on a recordset where...  I defined the 
recordset where... and then performed the update on that, right in a single TSQL statement.

I used to create a view, store the view, then update the view.  Granted I am not very TSQL literate, 
but this method is just extremely easy / readable.  if I can do it anyone can.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Bill Patten wrote:
> Hey John,
> 
> Thanks, just what I needed for a project I'm working on.
> I have to start reading more than the editorials in the news letter.
> 
> 
> Bill
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 5:09 AM
> To: "Dba-Sqlserver" <dba-sqlserver at databaseadvisors.com>; "Access Developers 
> discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: [AccessD] Common Table Expressions - The solution to one of 
> myproblems
> 
> 
> http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/T-SQL/68651/
> 
> It looks way easy!
> 


From pedro at plex.nl  Wed Dec  9 10:13:42 2009
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:13:42 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] text between (   )
Message-ID: <001f01ca78ea$939c60e0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Dear Group,

is it possible to filter out text between (  ) in a field [Concl] and place only the text between (  ) in a new field [fldSelection], with a query.

Thanks

Pedro

From davidmcafee at gmail.com  Wed Dec  9 11:58:37 2009
From: davidmcafee at gmail.com (David McAfee)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 09:58:37 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] text between ( )
In-Reply-To: <001f01ca78ea$939c60e0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
References: <001f01ca78ea$939c60e0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <8786a4c00912090958t2d299e17seb1c4809422bd660@mail.gmail.com>

If this looks good:
SELECT Concl, Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2)
AS Expr1
FROM YourTable
WHERE (((Concl) Like "*(*)*"));

you can do it like this:
UPDATE YourTable SET YourTable.fldSelection =
Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2)
WHERE (((YourTable.Concl) Like "*(*)*"));



On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl> wrote:
> Dear Group,
>
> is it possible to filter out text between ( ?) in a field [Concl] and place only the text between ( ?) in a new field [fldSelection], with a query.
>
> Thanks
>
> Pedro
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>



From accessd at gfconsultants.com  Wed Dec  9 12:39:40 2009
From: accessd at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 13:39:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
Message-ID: <DE9520ED89C34A27BC3591A8A10894F4@reubennx9500>

Can anyone explain to me, given the following two sets of numbers why I get
the answers I do in Access?
I'll also provide the answers to the same numbers and equations in Excel.
Access simply seems to be rounding wrong.
And these are only 2 out of 22.  The other 20 are correct.

=============================================
.47
206104.58
118507.98
3312.20
16
4274.27
Total = 332215.50

% = .258099

If I do Round(Total*%,2) I get 85,744.48
In excel I get 85,744.49

The number, before rounding is 85744.48833

=============================================

The 2nd set is 
66986.81
29694.41
1837.46
Total = 98518.68

% = .253696

Round(Total*%,2) in Access gives me 24,993.79

Excel gives me 24,993.80

Before rounding it is 24993.79504
=============================================

Why the rounding errors?

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017





From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Dec  9 12:54:35 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:54:35 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
Message-ID: <sb20008e.022@cactus.dk>

Hi Reuben

Round in Access is known to be buggy.
If you are interested in rounding and how to optimise this regarding speed while still being accurate, read on here:

  http://www.xbeat.net/vbspeed/c_Round.htm 

Note that the absolutely simplest (but slowest) method to perform 100% correct (mathematical) rounding is ... Format!

/gustav


>>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 09-12-2009 19:39:40 >>>
Can anyone explain to me, given the following two sets of numbers why I get
the answers I do in Access?
I'll also provide the answers to the same numbers and equations in Excel.
Access simply seems to be rounding wrong.
And these are only 2 out of 22.  The other 20 are correct.

=============================================
.47
206104.58
118507.98
3312.20
16
4274.27
Total = 332215.50

% = .258099

If I do Round(Total*%,2) I get 85,744.48
In excel I get 85,744.49

The number, before rounding is 85744.48833

=============================================

The 2nd set is 
66986.81
29694.41
1837.46
Total = 98518.68

% = .253696

Round(Total*%,2) in Access gives me 24,993.79

Excel gives me 24,993.80

Before rounding it is 24993.79504
=============================================

Why the rounding errors?

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017





From pedro at plex.nl  Wed Dec  9 14:02:39 2009
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 21:02:39 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] text between ( )
References: <001f01ca78ea$939c60e0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
	<8786a4c00912090958t2d299e17seb1c4809422bd660@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000c01ca790a$8f82ac60$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello David,

looks good to me.
I will try it out tomorrow at work.

Thanks

Pedro


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David McAfee" <davidmcafee at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )


If this looks good:
SELECT Concl, 
Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2)
AS Expr1
FROM YourTable
WHERE (((Concl) Like "*(*)*"));

you can do it like this:
UPDATE YourTable SET YourTable.fldSelection =
Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2)
WHERE (((YourTable.Concl) Like "*(*)*"));



On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl> wrote:
> Dear Group,
>
> is it possible to filter out text between ( ) in a field [Concl] and place 
> only the text between ( ) in a new field [fldSelection], with a query.
>
> Thanks
>
> Pedro
> --
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> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
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>

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From accessd at gfconsultants.com  Wed Dec  9 14:29:34 2009
From: accessd at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:29:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
In-Reply-To: <sb20008e.022@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <0E5BC630DD334CEE93FDBA6DC9E04555@reubennx9500>

Thanks.  Interesting stuff.

I wrote a quick function that merely evaluates the 3rd decimal and either
adds .01 or doesn't in order to test the results I was getting.

Turns out the error is not in the Rounding.

THE ERROR IS IN THE MATH TO GET THE NUMBER TO BE ROUNDED.


In Access 332,215.50 * .258099 = 85744.48492
In Excel or on a calculator...         85744.48833

The other problem...
In Access 98518.68 * .253696 = 24993.79451
In Excel or calculator...             24993.79504

If I "Hard Code" the calc into a query I get the .48833.
But if I let the query do the math to the 332215.50 and then multiply I get
.48492

I've looked for extra decimals, but see nothing.

Any ideas?

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gustav Brock
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:55 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> 
> 
> Hi Reuben
> 
> Round in Access is known to be buggy.
> If you are interested in rounding and how to optimise this 
> regarding speed while still being accurate, read on here:
> 
>   http://www.xbeat.net/vbspeed/c_Round.htm 
> 
> Note that the absolutely simplest (but slowest) method to 
> perform 100% correct (mathematical) rounding is ... Format!
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> >>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 09-12-2009 19:39:40 >>>
> Can anyone explain to me, given the following two sets of 
> numbers why I get
> the answers I do in Access?
> I'll also provide the answers to the same numbers and 
> equations in Excel.
> Access simply seems to be rounding wrong.
> And these are only 2 out of 22.  The other 20 are correct.
> 
> =============================================
> .47
> 206104.58
> 118507.98
> 3312.20
> 16
> 4274.27
> Total = 332215.50
> 
> % = .258099
> 
> If I do Round(Total*%,2) I get 85,744.48
> In excel I get 85,744.49
> 
> The number, before rounding is 85744.48833
> 
> =============================================
> 
> The 2nd set is 
> 66986.81
> 29694.41
> 1837.46
> Total = 98518.68
> 
> % = .253696
> 
> Round(Total*%,2) in Access gives me 24,993.79
> 
> Excel gives me 24,993.80
> 
> Before rounding it is 24993.79504
> =============================================
> 
> Why the rounding errors?
> 
> Reuben Cummings
> GFC, LLC
> 812.523.1017
> 
> 
> 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Dec  9 15:06:44 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:06:44 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
In-Reply-To: <0E5BC630DD334CEE93FDBA6DC9E04555@reubennx9500>
References: <sb20008e.022@cactus.dk>,
	<0E5BC630DD334CEE93FDBA6DC9E04555@reubennx9500>
Message-ID: <4B201164.8983.8CD7A6A@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Never use Single Precision floating numbers!

Function WhyUseDoubles()
Dim a As Double
Dim b As Double
Dim d As Single
Dim e As Single
Dim x As Double

a = 332215.5
b = 0.258099
c = 332215.5
d = 0.258099
x = a * b
Debug.Print "Double Precision: "; x
x = c * d
Debug.Print "Single Precision: "; x
End Function


:-)

-- 
Stuart

On 9 Dec 2009 at 15:29, Reuben Cummings wrote:

> Thanks.  Interesting stuff.
> 
> I wrote a quick function that merely evaluates the 3rd decimal and either
> adds .01 or doesn't in order to test the results I was getting.
> 
> Turns out the error is not in the Rounding.
> 
> THE ERROR IS IN THE MATH TO GET THE NUMBER TO BE ROUNDED.
> 
> 
> In Access 332,215.50 * .258099 = 85744.48492
> In Excel or on a calculator...         85744.48833
> 
> The other problem...
> In Access 98518.68 * .253696 = 24993.79451
> In Excel or calculator...             24993.79504
> 
> If I "Hard Code" the calc into a query I get the .48833.
> But if I let the query do the math to the 332215.50 and then multiply I get
> .48492
> 
> I've looked for extra decimals, but see nothing.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Reuben Cummings
> GFC, LLC
> 812.523.1017
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> > Gustav Brock
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:55 PM
> > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Reuben
> > 
> > Round in Access is known to be buggy.
> > If you are interested in rounding and how to optimise this 
> > regarding speed while still being accurate, read on here:
> > 
> >   http://www.xbeat.net/vbspeed/c_Round.htm 
> > 
> > Note that the absolutely simplest (but slowest) method to 
> > perform 100% correct (mathematical) rounding is ... Format!
> > 
> > /gustav
> > 
> > 
> > >>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 09-12-2009 19:39:40 >>>
> > Can anyone explain to me, given the following two sets of 
> > numbers why I get
> > the answers I do in Access?
> > I'll also provide the answers to the same numbers and 
> > equations in Excel.
> > Access simply seems to be rounding wrong.
> > And these are only 2 out of 22.  The other 20 are correct.
> > 
> > =============================================
> > .47
> > 206104.58
> > 118507.98
> > 3312.20
> > 16
> > 4274.27
> > Total = 332215.50
> > 
> > % = .258099
> > 
> > If I do Round(Total*%,2) I get 85,744.48
> > In excel I get 85,744.49
> > 
> > The number, before rounding is 85744.48833
> > 
> > =============================================
> > 
> > The 2nd set is 
> > 66986.81
> > 29694.41
> > 1837.46
> > Total = 98518.68
> > 
> > % = .253696
> > 
> > Round(Total*%,2) in Access gives me 24,993.79
> > 
> > Excel gives me 24,993.80
> > 
> > Before rounding it is 24993.79504
> > =============================================
> > 
> > Why the rounding errors?
> > 
> > Reuben Cummings
> > GFC, LLC
> > 812.523.1017
> > 
> > 
> > 
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Dec  9 15:07:14 2009
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:07:14 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
In-Reply-To: <0E5BC630DD334CEE93FDBA6DC9E04555@reubennx9500>
References: <sb20008e.022@cactus.dk>
	<0E5BC630DD334CEE93FDBA6DC9E04555@reubennx9500>
Message-ID: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E329710B0@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>

Are you working with singles or doubles and what precision.  All those things matter in Access.  Plus floating point values are notorious for adding stray decimal values even in addition, let alone multiplication.

Charlotte Foust 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Reuben Cummings
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:30 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K

Thanks.  Interesting stuff.

I wrote a quick function that merely evaluates the 3rd decimal and either adds .01 or doesn't in order to test the results I was getting.

Turns out the error is not in the Rounding.

THE ERROR IS IN THE MATH TO GET THE NUMBER TO BE ROUNDED.


In Access 332,215.50 * .258099 = 85744.48492
In Excel or on a calculator...         85744.48833

The other problem...
In Access 98518.68 * .253696 = 24993.79451
In Excel or calculator...             24993.79504

If I "Hard Code" the calc into a query I get the .48833.
But if I let the query do the math to the 332215.50 and then multiply I get
.48492

I've looked for extra decimals, but see nothing.

Any ideas?

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav 
> Brock
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:55 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> 
> 
> Hi Reuben
> 
> Round in Access is known to be buggy.
> If you are interested in rounding and how to optimise this regarding 
> speed while still being accurate, read on here:
> 
>   http://www.xbeat.net/vbspeed/c_Round.htm
> 
> Note that the absolutely simplest (but slowest) method to perform 100% 
> correct (mathematical) rounding is ... Format!
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> >>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 09-12-2009 19:39:40 >>>
> Can anyone explain to me, given the following two sets of numbers why 
> I get the answers I do in Access?
> I'll also provide the answers to the same numbers and equations in 
> Excel.
> Access simply seems to be rounding wrong.
> And these are only 2 out of 22.  The other 20 are correct.
> 
> =============================================
> .47
> 206104.58
> 118507.98
> 3312.20
> 16
> 4274.27
> Total = 332215.50
> 
> % = .258099
> 
> If I do Round(Total*%,2) I get 85,744.48 In excel I get 85,744.49
> 
> The number, before rounding is 85744.48833
> 
> =============================================
> 
> The 2nd set is
> 66986.81
> 29694.41
> 1837.46
> Total = 98518.68
> 
> % = .253696
> 
> Round(Total*%,2) in Access gives me 24,993.79
> 
> Excel gives me 24,993.80
> 
> Before rounding it is 24993.79504
> =============================================
> 
> Why the rounding errors?
> 
> Reuben Cummings
> GFC, LLC
> 812.523.1017
> 
> 
> 
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From accessd at gfconsultants.com  Wed Dec  9 20:16:22 2009
From: accessd at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 21:16:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
In-Reply-To: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E329710B0@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
Message-ID: <E31CC17E22C64F8F87AF47B0D1E1AD47@reubennx9500>

Stuart and Charlotte, I'll play with the single/double issue.

The dollar amounts are all currency.

The percentage (.25xxx) is a single.  Not sure why as this is the first time
I've ever used a single.
All these years and I've never used single and the first time I do it BITES
me.
I wanted to use currency for the percentage, but the state defines these
rates to 6 decimals.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Charlotte Foust
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:07 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> 
> 
> Are you working with singles or doubles and what precision.  
> All those things matter in Access.  Plus floating point 
> values are notorious for adding stray decimal values even in 
> addition, let alone multiplication.
> 
> Charlotte Foust 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Reuben Cummings
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:30 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> 
> Thanks.  Interesting stuff.
> 
> I wrote a quick function that merely evaluates the 3rd 
> decimal and either adds .01 or doesn't in order to test the 
> results I was getting.
> 
> Turns out the error is not in the Rounding.
> 
> THE ERROR IS IN THE MATH TO GET THE NUMBER TO BE ROUNDED.
> 
> 
> In Access 332,215.50 * .258099 = 85744.48492
> In Excel or on a calculator...         85744.48833
> 
> The other problem...
> In Access 98518.68 * .253696 = 24993.79451
> In Excel or calculator...             24993.79504
> 
> If I "Hard Code" the calc into a query I get the .48833.
> But if I let the query do the math to the 332215.50 and then 
> multiply I get
> .48492
> 
> I've looked for extra decimals, but see nothing.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Reuben Cummings
> GFC, LLC
> 812.523.1017
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav 
> > Brock
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:55 PM
> > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Reuben
> > 
> > Round in Access is known to be buggy.
> > If you are interested in rounding and how to optimise this 
> regarding 
> > speed while still being accurate, read on here:
> > 
> >   http://www.xbeat.net/vbspeed/c_Round.htm
> > 
> > Note that the absolutely simplest (but slowest) method to 
> perform 100% 
> > correct (mathematical) rounding is ... Format!
> > 
> > /gustav
> > 
> > 
> > >>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 09-12-2009 19:39:40 >>>
> > Can anyone explain to me, given the following two sets of 
> numbers why 
> > I get the answers I do in Access?
> > I'll also provide the answers to the same numbers and equations in 
> > Excel.
> > Access simply seems to be rounding wrong.
> > And these are only 2 out of 22.  The other 20 are correct.
> > 
> > =============================================
> > .47
> > 206104.58
> > 118507.98
> > 3312.20
> > 16
> > 4274.27
> > Total = 332215.50
> > 
> > % = .258099
> > 
> > If I do Round(Total*%,2) I get 85,744.48 In excel I get 85,744.49
> > 
> > The number, before rounding is 85744.48833
> > 
> > =============================================
> > 
> > The 2nd set is
> > 66986.81
> > 29694.41
> > 1837.46
> > Total = 98518.68
> > 
> > % = .253696
> > 
> > Round(Total*%,2) in Access gives me 24,993.79
> > 
> > Excel gives me 24,993.80
> > 
> > Before rounding it is 24993.79504
> > =============================================
> > 
> > Why the rounding errors?
> > 
> > Reuben Cummings
> > GFC, LLC
> > 812.523.1017
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --
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> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
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> > 
> 
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From accessd at gfconsultants.com  Wed Dec  9 20:25:40 2009
From: accessd at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 21:25:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
In-Reply-To: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E329710B0@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
Message-ID: <D45F573A051E4E9789F2C212783AA2C1@reubennx9500>

One more question...

You ask about "what precision"

How do I go about creating precision on a floating point double?

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Charlotte Foust
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:07 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> 
> 
> Are you working with singles or doubles and what precision.  
> All those things matter in Access.  Plus floating point 
> values are notorious for adding stray decimal values even in 
> addition, let alone multiplication.
> 
> Charlotte Foust 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Reuben Cummings
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:30 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> 
> Thanks.  Interesting stuff.
> 
> I wrote a quick function that merely evaluates the 3rd 
> decimal and either adds .01 or doesn't in order to test the 
> results I was getting.
> 
> Turns out the error is not in the Rounding.
> 
> THE ERROR IS IN THE MATH TO GET THE NUMBER TO BE ROUNDED.
> 
> 
> In Access 332,215.50 * .258099 = 85744.48492
> In Excel or on a calculator...         85744.48833
> 
> The other problem...
> In Access 98518.68 * .253696 = 24993.79451
> In Excel or calculator...             24993.79504
> 
> If I "Hard Code" the calc into a query I get the .48833.
> But if I let the query do the math to the 332215.50 and then 
> multiply I get
> .48492
> 
> I've looked for extra decimals, but see nothing.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Reuben Cummings
> GFC, LLC
> 812.523.1017
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav 
> > Brock
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:55 PM
> > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Reuben
> > 
> > Round in Access is known to be buggy.
> > If you are interested in rounding and how to optimise this 
> regarding 
> > speed while still being accurate, read on here:
> > 
> >   http://www.xbeat.net/vbspeed/c_Round.htm
> > 
> > Note that the absolutely simplest (but slowest) method to 
> perform 100% 
> > correct (mathematical) rounding is ... Format!
> > 
> > /gustav
> > 
> > 
> > >>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 09-12-2009 19:39:40 >>>
> > Can anyone explain to me, given the following two sets of 
> numbers why 
> > I get the answers I do in Access?
> > I'll also provide the answers to the same numbers and equations in 
> > Excel.
> > Access simply seems to be rounding wrong.
> > And these are only 2 out of 22.  The other 20 are correct.
> > 
> > =============================================
> > .47
> > 206104.58
> > 118507.98
> > 3312.20
> > 16
> > 4274.27
> > Total = 332215.50
> > 
> > % = .258099
> > 
> > If I do Round(Total*%,2) I get 85,744.48 In excel I get 85,744.49
> > 
> > The number, before rounding is 85744.48833
> > 
> > =============================================
> > 
> > The 2nd set is
> > 66986.81
> > 29694.41
> > 1837.46
> > Total = 98518.68
> > 
> > % = .253696
> > 
> > Round(Total*%,2) in Access gives me 24,993.79
> > 
> > Excel gives me 24,993.80
> > 
> > Before rounding it is 24993.79504
> > =============================================
> > 
> > Why the rounding errors?
> > 
> > Reuben Cummings
> > GFC, LLC
> > 812.523.1017
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --
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> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
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> > 
> 
> 
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From accessd at gfconsultants.com  Wed Dec  9 20:54:06 2009
From: accessd at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 21:54:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
In-Reply-To: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E329710B0@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
Message-ID: <AD39468FED004A4A9F34AB079F3AF8CF@reubennx9500>

Still another question...

Using the BEU I am creating new factor fields as double and using update SQL
placing the factors into the new fields.
The problem is they get placed in the new double fields with about 20
decimals.

Is there a way to insert the factors into the new double fields with just
the appropriate 6 decimals?

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Charlotte Foust
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:07 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> 
> 
> Are you working with singles or doubles and what precision.  
> All those things matter in Access.  Plus floating point 
> values are notorious for adding stray decimal values even in 
> addition, let alone multiplication.
> 
> Charlotte Foust 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Reuben Cummings
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:30 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> 
> Thanks.  Interesting stuff.
> 
> I wrote a quick function that merely evaluates the 3rd 
> decimal and either adds .01 or doesn't in order to test the 
> results I was getting.
> 
> Turns out the error is not in the Rounding.
> 
> THE ERROR IS IN THE MATH TO GET THE NUMBER TO BE ROUNDED.
> 
> 
> In Access 332,215.50 * .258099 = 85744.48492
> In Excel or on a calculator...         85744.48833
> 
> The other problem...
> In Access 98518.68 * .253696 = 24993.79451
> In Excel or calculator...             24993.79504
> 
> If I "Hard Code" the calc into a query I get the .48833.
> But if I let the query do the math to the 332215.50 and then 
> multiply I get
> .48492
> 
> I've looked for extra decimals, but see nothing.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Reuben Cummings
> GFC, LLC
> 812.523.1017
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav 
> > Brock
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:55 PM
> > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Reuben
> > 
> > Round in Access is known to be buggy.
> > If you are interested in rounding and how to optimise this 
> regarding 
> > speed while still being accurate, read on here:
> > 
> >   http://www.xbeat.net/vbspeed/c_Round.htm
> > 
> > Note that the absolutely simplest (but slowest) method to 
> perform 100% 
> > correct (mathematical) rounding is ... Format!
> > 
> > /gustav
> > 
> > 
> > >>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 09-12-2009 19:39:40 >>>
> > Can anyone explain to me, given the following two sets of 
> numbers why 
> > I get the answers I do in Access?
> > I'll also provide the answers to the same numbers and equations in 
> > Excel.
> > Access simply seems to be rounding wrong.
> > And these are only 2 out of 22.  The other 20 are correct.
> > 
> > =============================================
> > .47
> > 206104.58
> > 118507.98
> > 3312.20
> > 16
> > 4274.27
> > Total = 332215.50
> > 
> > % = .258099
> > 
> > If I do Round(Total*%,2) I get 85,744.48 In excel I get 85,744.49
> > 
> > The number, before rounding is 85744.48833
> > 
> > =============================================
> > 
> > The 2nd set is
> > 66986.81
> > 29694.41
> > 1837.46
> > Total = 98518.68
> > 
> > % = .253696
> > 
> > Round(Total*%,2) in Access gives me 24,993.79
> > 
> > Excel gives me 24,993.80
> > 
> > Before rounding it is 24993.79504
> > =============================================
> > 
> > Why the rounding errors?
> > 
> > Reuben Cummings
> > GFC, LLC
> > 812.523.1017
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
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> > 
> 
> 
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Dec 10 03:21:42 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:21:42 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
Message-ID: <sb20cbc2.030@cactus.dk>

Hi Reuben

If they are singles, store them as such. Nothing wrong with that.
Problems occur only when you start calculating with singles without converting them to a higher (double) or true (currency) precision data type.

/gustav


>>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 10-12-2009 03:54 >>>
Still another question...

Using the BEU I am creating new factor fields as double and using update SQL
placing the factors into the new fields.
The problem is they get placed in the new double fields with about 20
decimals.

Is there a way to insert the factors into the new double fields with just
the appropriate 6 decimals?

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017




From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Dec 10 03:17:39 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:17:39 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
Message-ID: <sb20cad2.029@cactus.dk>

Hi Reuben

There is your explanation: cur * sng returns a double.

What you could do is to keep storing the percentage as a single. When using it for calculation, do:

  CurResult = CCur(CurAmount * CCur(100 * SngPercentage) / 100)

This will calculate using your six decimals and (with CCur) round the result to four decimals.

/gustav


>>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 10-12-2009 03:16 >>>
Stuart and Charlotte, I'll play with the single/double issue.

The dollar amounts are all currency.

The percentage (.25xxx) is a single.  Not sure why as this is the first time
I've ever used a single.
All these years and I've never used single and the first time I do it BITES
me.
I wanted to use currency for the percentage, but the state defines these
rates to 6 decimals.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017





From accessd at gfconsultants.com  Thu Dec 10 05:57:34 2009
From: accessd at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:57:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
In-Reply-To: <sb20cad2.029@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <AF43DCF77744489F8F2F27E0C0AB09C0@reubennx9500>

Thanks.  That appears to work.  However, I think your paranthesis are off.
For anyone wanting this for future use I had to change it to...

>   CurResult = CCur((CurAmount * CCur(100 * SngPercentage))/ 100)

Only added two paranthesis (to completely inclose the multiplication part),
but it makes sure the math gets done before it gets divided by 100.

Thanks for the help.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gustav Brock
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:18 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> 
> 
> Hi Reuben
> 
> There is your explanation: cur * sng returns a double.
> 
> What you could do is to keep storing the percentage as a 
> single. When using it for calculation, do:
> 
>   CurResult = CCur(CurAmount * CCur(100 * SngPercentage) / 100)
> 
> This will calculate using your six decimals and (with CCur) 
> round the result to four decimals.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> >>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 10-12-2009 03:16 >>>
> Stuart and Charlotte, I'll play with the single/double issue.
> 
> The dollar amounts are all currency.
> 
> The percentage (.25xxx) is a single.  Not sure why as this is 
> the first time
> I've ever used a single.
> All these years and I've never used single and the first time 
> I do it BITES
> me.
> I wanted to use currency for the percentage, but the state 
> defines these
> rates to 6 decimals.
> 
> Reuben Cummings
> GFC, LLC
> 812.523.1017
> 
> 
> 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Dec 10 07:34:26 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:34:26 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Amazon book searches
Message-ID: <4B20F8E2.4000503@colbyconsulting.com>

I am trying to search for C# books on Amazon and what a mess.  C# returns anything with a c in it. 
C Sharp returns anything with a c or the word sharp.  THOUSANDS of hits including things about 
pregnancy, carving wood...

Now, if I sort by relevancy the C# things pop to the top but then try to sort by average review and 
I'm back to pregnancy, carving and what not.

Any hints on how to deal with idiot search?

-- 
John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Dec 10 07:44:58 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:44:58 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
Message-ID: <sb210981.051@cactus.dk>

Hi Reuben

I did some tests with no errors and returning the correct data type. Are you sure about this?

/gustav


>>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 10-12-2009 12:57 >>>
Thanks.  That appears to work.  However, I think your paranthesis are off.
For anyone wanting this for future use I had to change it to...

>   CurResult = CCur((CurAmount * CCur(100 * SngPercentage))/ 100)

Only added two paranthesis (to completely inclose the multiplication part),
but it makes sure the math gets done before it gets divided by 100.

Thanks for the help.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gustav Brock
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:18 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> 
> 
> Hi Reuben
> 
> There is your explanation: cur * sng returns a double.
> 
> What you could do is to keep storing the percentage as a 
> single. When using it for calculation, do:
> 
>   CurResult = CCur(CurAmount * CCur(100 * SngPercentage) / 100)
> 
> This will calculate using your six decimals and (with CCur) 
> round the result to four decimals.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> >>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 10-12-2009 03:16 >>>
> Stuart and Charlotte, I'll play with the single/double issue.
> 
> The dollar amounts are all currency.
> 
> The percentage (.25xxx) is a single.  Not sure why as this is 
> the first time
> I've ever used a single.
> All these years and I've never used single and the first time 
> I do it BITES
> me.
> I wanted to use currency for the percentage, but the state 
> defines these
> rates to 6 decimals.
> 
> Reuben Cummings
> GFC, LLC
> 812.523.1017





From mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk  Thu Dec 10 07:52:29 2009
From: mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk (Martin Reid)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:52:29 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Amazon book searches
In-Reply-To: <4B20F8E2.4000503@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B20F8E2.4000503@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <631CF83223105545BF43EFB52CB0829502B0D38623@EX2K7-VIRT-2.ads.qub.ac.uk>

try

 .netc#

Martin


Martin WP Reid
Information Services
The Library at Queen's
Tel : 02890976174
Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk
Sharepoint Training Portal
________________________________________
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby [jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com]
Sent: 10 December 2009 13:34
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Amazon book searches

I am trying to search for C# books on Amazon and what a mess.  C# returns anything with a c in it.
C Sharp returns anything with a c or the word sharp.  THOUSANDS of hits including things about
pregnancy, carving wood...

Now, if I sort by relevancy the C# things pop to the top but then try to sort by average review and
I'm back to pregnancy, carving and what not.

Any hints on how to deal with idiot search?

--
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www.ColbyConsulting.com
--
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Thu Dec 10 08:16:09 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:16:09 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Amazon book searches
In-Reply-To: <4B20F8E2.4000503@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B20F8E2.4000503@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <0433764E0EB34C5DB718E71A4AB1E6D8@HAL9005>

Search for Java?

R 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 5:34 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Amazon book searches

I am trying to search for C# books on Amazon and what a mess.  C# returns
anything with a c in it. 
C Sharp returns anything with a c or the word sharp.  THOUSANDS of hits
including things about pregnancy, carving wood...

Now, if I sort by relevancy the C# things pop to the top but then try to
sort by average review and I'm back to pregnancy, carving and what not.

Any hints on how to deal with idiot search?

--
John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com
--
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From dbdoug at gmail.com  Thu Dec 10 08:20:06 2009
From: dbdoug at gmail.com (Doug Steele)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:20:06 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Slightly O/T - web development stuff
Message-ID: <4dd71a0c0912100620w6ef71523w11fba8e1ab39a454@mail.gmail.com>

www.sitepoint.com is putting one or more of their books/videos on sale every
day this month.  A couple of days ago I got seven 20 minute videos on Ajax
and css for $15; yesterday I got 3 full books on Javascript/Ajax in pdf form
for the same $15.

Doug Steele


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Dec 10 08:25:37 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:25:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Amazon book searches
In-Reply-To: <0433764E0EB34C5DB718E71A4AB1E6D8@HAL9005>
References: <4B20F8E2.4000503@colbyconsulting.com>
	<0433764E0EB34C5DB718E71A4AB1E6D8@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <4B2104E1.5020200@colbyconsulting.com>

ROTFL!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Rocky Smolin wrote:
> Search for Java?
> 
> R 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 5:34 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Amazon book searches
> 
> I am trying to search for C# books on Amazon and what a mess.  C# returns
> anything with a c in it. 
> C Sharp returns anything with a c or the word sharp.  THOUSANDS of hits
> including things about pregnancy, carving wood...
> 
> Now, if I sort by relevancy the C# things pop to the top but then try to
> sort by average review and I'm back to pregnancy, carving and what not.
> 
> Any hints on how to deal with idiot search?
> 
> --
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> --
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> 


From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Dec 10 08:51:43 2009
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:51:43 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Amazon book searches
In-Reply-To: <4B2104E1.5020200@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B20F8E2.4000503@colbyconsulting.com><0433764E0EB34C5DB718E71A4AB1E6D8@HAL9005>
	<4B2104E1.5020200@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <791A45CEC6FB424DB9DADB829982DDE5@danwaters>

John - try this:

Under Search or Category, select Books.
Then select Advanced Search (directly under 'Search').
In the keywords field enter C#, then push the orange search button.

You'll get a page full of all C# books!

Are you buying a Christmas present for someone?


Good Luck,
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:26 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Amazon book searches

ROTFL!

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Rocky Smolin wrote:
> Search for Java?
> 
> R 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 5:34 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Amazon book searches
> 
> I am trying to search for C# books on Amazon and what a mess.  C# returns
> anything with a c in it. 
> C Sharp returns anything with a c or the word sharp.  THOUSANDS of hits
> including things about pregnancy, carving wood...
> 
> Now, if I sort by relevancy the C# things pop to the top but then try to
> sort by average review and I'm back to pregnancy, carving and what not.
> 
> Any hints on how to deal with idiot search?
> 
> --
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> --
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Dec 10 09:31:43 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:31:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Amazon book searches
In-Reply-To: <791A45CEC6FB424DB9DADB829982DDE5@danwaters>
References: <4B20F8E2.4000503@colbyconsulting.com><0433764E0EB34C5DB718E71A4AB1E6D8@HAL9005>	<4B2104E1.5020200@colbyconsulting.com>
	<791A45CEC6FB424DB9DADB829982DDE5@danwaters>
Message-ID: <4B21145F.50603@colbyconsulting.com>

Dan,

 > In the keywords field enter C#, then push the orange search button.
 >
 > You'll get a page full of all C# books!

You do indeed.

LOL... look at the number of hits.  Do you REALLY believe that there are 14,220 books on C#?

Now instead of "sort by" relevance select "Sort By" Avg Customer Review.

Are you interested in "taking charge of your fertility"?  ;)  Well, perhaps but that is another subject.

How about cosmos by Carl Sagan?  As an amateur astronomer I am indeed interested, but not when I am 
searching for C# books.

Billboard of the top 40 hits anyone?  I for one am not remotely interested.

What in the heck does any of that have to do with C#?  The answer appears to be that the search 
engine strips off the # and returns anything with... C anywhere in the name or description.  Wow, 
how useful is THAT?

So yea, if you don't care about what other people think about the books, then you can indeed get 
hundreds (thousands?) of hits on C#.  OTOH if you immediately attempt to see only the "best" books, 
then that search is not so helpful.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Dan Waters wrote:
> John - try this:
> 
> Under Search or Category, select Books.
> Then select Advanced Search (directly under 'Search').
> In the keywords field enter C#, then push the orange search button.
> 
> You'll get a page full of all C# books!
> 
> Are you buying a Christmas present for someone?
> 
> 
> Good Luck,
> Dan



From hewson.jim at gmail.com  Thu Dec 10 10:56:52 2009
From: hewson.jim at gmail.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:56:52 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Amazon book searches
In-Reply-To: <4B21145F.50603@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B20F8E2.4000503@colbyconsulting.com><0433764E0EB34C5DB718E71A4AB1E6D8@HAL9005>	<4B2104E1.5020200@colbyconsulting.com>	<791A45CEC6FB424DB9DADB829982DDE5@danwaters>
	<4B21145F.50603@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <4b21286d.5744f10a.2cd7.4e0f@mx.google.com>

I did something similar and got 850 books on the returned list.
I put in C# in quotes in the keywords field.
The second entry on the return had "relevant" searches with C# as one of the
choices.
I clicked that and a list of only C# books showed.
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 9:32 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Amazon book searches

Dan,

 > In the keywords field enter C#, then push the orange search button.
 >
 > You'll get a page full of all C# books!

You do indeed.

LOL... look at the number of hits.  Do you REALLY believe that there are
14,220 books on C#?

Now instead of "sort by" relevance select "Sort By" Avg Customer Review.

Are you interested in "taking charge of your fertility"?  ;)  Well, perhaps
but that is another subject.

How about cosmos by Carl Sagan?  As an amateur astronomer I am indeed
interested, but not when I am 
searching for C# books.

Billboard of the top 40 hits anyone?  I for one am not remotely interested.

What in the heck does any of that have to do with C#?  The answer appears to
be that the search 
engine strips off the # and returns anything with... C anywhere in the name
or description.  Wow, 
how useful is THAT?

So yea, if you don't care about what other people think about the books,
then you can indeed get 
hundreds (thousands?) of hits on C#.  OTOH if you immediately attempt to see
only the "best" books, 
then that search is not so helpful.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Dan Waters wrote:
> John - try this:
> 
> Under Search or Category, select Books.
> Then select Advanced Search (directly under 'Search').
> In the keywords field enter C#, then push the orange search button.
> 
> You'll get a page full of all C# books!
> 
> Are you buying a Christmas present for someone?
> 
> 
> Good Luck,
> Dan

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Dec 10 11:09:10 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:09:10 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW:  Re:  OT: Amazon book searches
In-Reply-To: <4b21286d.5744f10a.2cd7.4e0f@mx.google.com>
References: <4B20F8E2.4000503@colbyconsulting.com><0433764E0EB34C5DB718E71A4AB1E6D8@HAL9005>	<4B2104E1.5020200@colbyconsulting.com>	<791A45CEC6FB424DB9DADB829982DDE5@danwaters>	<4B21145F.50603@colbyconsulting.com>
	<4b21286d.5744f10a.2cd7.4e0f@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <4B212B36.5070004@colbyconsulting.com>

I put "C#" in books and got 1,928,887 results.


The top result returned was

Mere Christianity by C. S. Lewis (Hardcover - Mar 6, 2001)

Excerpt -  page 91: "... than a healthy man may have shown in winning the V.C. When a man who has 
been perverted from his youth ..."

With the C in V.C. highlighted as the "hit".

Absolutely useless.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Jim Hewson wrote:
> I did something similar and got 850 books on the returned list.
> I put in C# in quotes in the keywords field.
> The second entry on the return had "relevant" searches with C# as one of the
> choices.
> I clicked that and a list of only C# books showed.
> Jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 9:32 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Amazon book searches
> 
> Dan,
> 
>  > In the keywords field enter C#, then push the orange search button.
>  >
>  > You'll get a page full of all C# books!
> 
> You do indeed.
> 
> LOL... look at the number of hits.  Do you REALLY believe that there are
> 14,220 books on C#?
> 
> Now instead of "sort by" relevance select "Sort By" Avg Customer Review.
> 
> Are you interested in "taking charge of your fertility"?  ;)  Well, perhaps
> but that is another subject.
> 
> How about cosmos by Carl Sagan?  As an amateur astronomer I am indeed
> interested, but not when I am 
> searching for C# books.
> 
> Billboard of the top 40 hits anyone?  I for one am not remotely interested.
> 
> What in the heck does any of that have to do with C#?  The answer appears to
> be that the search 
> engine strips off the # and returns anything with... C anywhere in the name
> or description.  Wow, 
> how useful is THAT?
> 
> So yea, if you don't care about what other people think about the books,
> then you can indeed get 
> hundreds (thousands?) of hits on C#.  OTOH if you immediately attempt to see
> only the "best" books, 
> then that search is not so helpful.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> 
> Dan Waters wrote:
>> John - try this:
>>
>> Under Search or Category, select Books.
>> Then select Advanced Search (directly under 'Search').
>> In the keywords field enter C#, then push the orange search button.
>>
>> You'll get a page full of all C# books!
>>
>> Are you buying a Christmas present for someone?
>>
>>
>> Good Luck,
>> Dan
> 


From davidmcafee at gmail.com  Thu Dec 10 12:32:06 2009
From: davidmcafee at gmail.com (David McAfee)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:32:06 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW: Re: OT: Amazon book searches
In-Reply-To: <4B212B36.5070004@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B20F8E2.4000503@colbyconsulting.com>
	<0433764E0EB34C5DB718E71A4AB1E6D8@HAL9005>
	<4B2104E1.5020200@colbyconsulting.com>
	<791A45CEC6FB424DB9DADB829982DDE5@danwaters>
	<4B21145F.50603@colbyconsulting.com>
	<4b21286d.5744f10a.2cd7.4e0f@mx.google.com>
	<4B212B36.5070004@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <8786a4c00912101032vc0f23e1ne59d2df9d2e8bbb1@mail.gmail.com>

C sharp .net

259 results. All C# books.

On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:09 AM, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> I put "C#" in books and got 1,928,887 results.
>
>
> The top result returned was
>
> Mere Christianity by C. S. Lewis (Hardcover - Mar 6, 2001)
>
> Excerpt - ?page 91: "... than a healthy man may have shown in winning the V.C. When a man who has
> been perverted from his youth ..."
>
> With the C in V.C. highlighted as the "hit".
>
> Absolutely useless.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>
> Jim Hewson wrote:
>> I did something similar and got 850 books on the returned list.
>> I put in C# in quotes in the keywords field.
>> The second entry on the return had "relevant" searches with C# as one of the
>> choices.
>> I clicked that and a list of only C# books showed.
>> Jim
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
>> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 9:32 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Amazon book searches
>>
>> Dan,
>>
>> ?> In the keywords field enter C#, then push the orange search button.
>> ?>
>> ?> You'll get a page full of all C# books!
>>
>> You do indeed.
>>
>> LOL... look at the number of hits. ?Do you REALLY believe that there are
>> 14,220 books on C#?
>>
>> Now instead of "sort by" relevance select "Sort By" Avg Customer Review.
>>
>> Are you interested in "taking charge of your fertility"? ?;) ?Well, perhaps
>> but that is another subject.
>>
>> How about cosmos by Carl Sagan? ?As an amateur astronomer I am indeed
>> interested, but not when I am
>> searching for C# books.
>>
>> Billboard of the top 40 hits anyone? ?I for one am not remotely interested.
>>
>> What in the heck does any of that have to do with C#? ?The answer appears to
>> be that the search
>> engine strips off the # and returns anything with... C anywhere in the name
>> or description. ?Wow,
>> how useful is THAT?
>>
>> So yea, if you don't care about what other people think about the books,
>> then you can indeed get
>> hundreds (thousands?) of hits on C#. ?OTOH if you immediately attempt to see
>> only the "best" books,
>> then that search is not so helpful.
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>>
>> Dan Waters wrote:
>>> John - try this:
>>>
>>> Under Search or Category, select Books.
>>> Then select Advanced Search (directly under 'Search').
>>> In the keywords field enter C#, then push the orange search button.
>>>
>>> You'll get a page full of all C# books!
>>>
>>> Are you buying a Christmas present for someone?
>>>
>>>
>>> Good Luck,
>>> Dan
>>
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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Thu Dec 10 12:40:05 2009
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:40:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Amazon book searches
In-Reply-To: <4B21145F.50603@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B20F8E2.4000503@colbyconsulting.com><0433764E0EB34C5DB718E71A4AB1E6D8@HAL9005>	<4B2104E1.5020200@colbyconsulting.com><791A45CEC6FB424DB9DADB829982DDE5@danwaters>
	<4B21145F.50603@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <96C72A0D38A24D66B978367A59F0AE4E@jislaptopdev>

...use bing instead of Google ...this is exactly why I love bing :)

William

--------------------------------------------------
From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:31 AM
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Amazon book searches

> Dan,
>
> > In the keywords field enter C#, then push the orange search button.
> >
> > You'll get a page full of all C# books!
>
> You do indeed.
>
> LOL... look at the number of hits.  Do you REALLY believe that there are 
> 14,220 books on C#?
>
> Now instead of "sort by" relevance select "Sort By" Avg Customer Review.
>
> Are you interested in "taking charge of your fertility"?  ;)  Well, 
> perhaps but that is another subject.
>
> How about cosmos by Carl Sagan?  As an amateur astronomer I am indeed 
> interested, but not when I am
> searching for C# books.
>
> Billboard of the top 40 hits anyone?  I for one am not remotely 
> interested.
>
> What in the heck does any of that have to do with C#?  The answer appears 
> to be that the search
> engine strips off the # and returns anything with... C anywhere in the 
> name or description.  Wow,
> how useful is THAT?
>
> So yea, if you don't care about what other people think about the books, 
> then you can indeed get
> hundreds (thousands?) of hits on C#.  OTOH if you immediately attempt to 
> see only the "best" books,
> then that search is not so helpful.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>
> Dan Waters wrote:
>> John - try this:
>>
>> Under Search or Category, select Books.
>> Then select Advanced Search (directly under 'Search').
>> In the keywords field enter C#, then push the orange search button.
>>
>> You'll get a page full of all C# books!
>>
>> Are you buying a Christmas present for someone?
>>
>>
>> Good Luck,
>> Dan
>
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From Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com  Thu Dec 10 13:05:30 2009
From: Chester_Kaup at kindermorgan.com (Kaup, Chester)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:05:30 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Msysobjects
Message-ID: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C1914851FB6@houex1.kindermorgan.com>

I have one table set up in the database column of the table as follows  
\\midfp1\Vol1\SACROC\Data\Public\DSS\DSS_LIVE\SACROC.mdb

I need to set up another one the same way but I don't recall how I did it. 

Chester Kaup
Engineering Technician
Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP
Office (432) 688-3797
FAX (432) 688-3799

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From hewson.jim at gmail.com  Thu Dec 10 13:08:13 2009
From: hewson.jim at gmail.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:08:13 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW:  Re:  OT: Amazon book searches
In-Reply-To: <4B212B36.5070004@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B20F8E2.4000503@colbyconsulting.com><0433764E0EB34C5DB718E71A4AB1E6D8@HAL9005>	<4B2104E1.5020200@colbyconsulting.com>	<791A45CEC6FB424DB9DADB829982DDE5@danwaters>	<4B21145F.50603@colbyconsulting.com>	<4b21286d.5744f10a.2cd7.4e0f@mx.google.com>
	<4B212B36.5070004@colbyconsulting.com>
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I did too... but if you look at the second entry under C there is a link to
C#.
That link will give C# books. I further filtered it down to C# in the title
-- 693 results

Try this:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=node%3D697342&field-keywords=%22C%23%2
2 


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:09 AM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW: Re: OT: Amazon book searches

I put "C#" in books and got 1,928,887 results.


The top result returned was

Mere Christianity by C. S. Lewis (Hardcover - Mar 6, 2001)

Excerpt -  page 91: "... than a healthy man may have shown in winning the
V.C. When a man who has 
been perverted from his youth ..."

With the C in V.C. highlighted as the "hit".

Absolutely useless.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Jim Hewson wrote:
> I did something similar and got 850 books on the returned list.
> I put in C# in quotes in the keywords field.
> The second entry on the return had "relevant" searches with C# as one of
the
> choices.
> I clicked that and a list of only C# books showed.
> Jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 9:32 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Amazon book searches
> 
> Dan,
> 
>  > In the keywords field enter C#, then push the orange search button.
>  >
>  > You'll get a page full of all C# books!
> 
> You do indeed.
> 
> LOL... look at the number of hits.  Do you REALLY believe that there are
> 14,220 books on C#?
> 
> Now instead of "sort by" relevance select "Sort By" Avg Customer Review.
> 
> Are you interested in "taking charge of your fertility"?  ;)  Well,
perhaps
> but that is another subject.
> 
> How about cosmos by Carl Sagan?  As an amateur astronomer I am indeed
> interested, but not when I am 
> searching for C# books.
> 
> Billboard of the top 40 hits anyone?  I for one am not remotely
interested.
> 
> What in the heck does any of that have to do with C#?  The answer appears
to
> be that the search 
> engine strips off the # and returns anything with... C anywhere in the
name
> or description.  Wow, 
> how useful is THAT?
> 
> So yea, if you don't care about what other people think about the books,
> then you can indeed get 
> hundreds (thousands?) of hits on C#.  OTOH if you immediately attempt to
see
> only the "best" books, 
> then that search is not so helpful.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> 
> Dan Waters wrote:
>> John - try this:
>>
>> Under Search or Category, select Books.
>> Then select Advanced Search (directly under 'Search').
>> In the keywords field enter C#, then push the orange search button.
>>
>> You'll get a page full of all C# books!
>>
>> Are you buying a Christmas present for someone?
>>
>>
>> Good Luck,
>> Dan
> 
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From Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com  Thu Dec 10 13:22:13 2009
From: Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:22:13 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Msysobjects
In-Reply-To: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C1914851FB6@houex1.kindermorgan.com>
References: <0B2BF8524B73A248A2F1B81BA751ED3C1914851FB6@houex1.kindermorgan.com>
Message-ID: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E24290B86@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>

You used the menus to add a linked table...

File/Get External Data/Link Tables

And then you probably typed in the UNC path to the database and browsed the table in the MDB you opened.

Does that sound familiar now? :-)

Lambert 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kaup, Chester
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 2:06 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Msysobjects

I have one table set up in the database column of the table as follows \\midfp1\Vol1\SACROC\Data\Public\DSS\DSS_LIVE\SACROC.mdb

I need to set up another one the same way but I don't recall how I did it. 

Chester Kaup
Engineering Technician
Kinder Morgan CO2 Company, LLP
Office (432) 688-3797
FAX (432) 688-3799

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Dec 10 14:26:59 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:26:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW:  Re:  OT: Amazon book searches
In-Reply-To: <96C72A0D38A24D66B978367A59F0AE4E@jislaptopdev>
References: <4B20F8E2.4000503@colbyconsulting.com><0433764E0EB34C5DB718E71A4AB1E6D8@HAL9005>	<4B2104E1.5020200@colbyconsulting.com><791A45CEC6FB424DB9DADB829982DDE5@danwaters>	<4B21145F.50603@colbyconsulting.com>
	<96C72A0D38A24D66B978367A59F0AE4E@jislaptopdev>
Message-ID: <4B215993.5050900@colbyconsulting.com>

This is the Amazon search.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


William Hindman wrote:
> ...use bing instead of Google ...this is exactly why I love bing :)
> 
> William



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Dec 10 14:29:33 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:29:33 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW:  Re:  OT: Amazon book searches
In-Reply-To: <4b214736.5644f10a.065e.5411@mx.google.com>
References: <4B20F8E2.4000503@colbyconsulting.com><0433764E0EB34C5DB718E71A4AB1E6D8@HAL9005>	<4B2104E1.5020200@colbyconsulting.com>	<791A45CEC6FB424DB9DADB829982DDE5@danwaters>	<4B21145F.50603@colbyconsulting.com>	<4b21286d.5744f10a.2cd7.4e0f@mx.google.com>	<4B212B36.5070004@colbyconsulting.com>
	<4b214736.5644f10a.065e.5411@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <4B215A2D.5050708@colbyconsulting.com>

Wow.  I saw that and it didn't register that it was a search widget.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Jim Hewson wrote:
> I did too... but if you look at the second entry under C there is a link to
> C#.
> That link will give C# books. I further filtered it down to C# in the title
> -- 693 results
> 
> Try this:
> http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=node%3D697342&field-keywords=%22C%23%2
> 2 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:09 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW: Re: OT: Amazon book searches
> 
> I put "C#" in books and got 1,928,887 results.
> 
> 
> The top result returned was
> 
> Mere Christianity by C. S. Lewis (Hardcover - Mar 6, 2001)
> 
> Excerpt -  page 91: "... than a healthy man may have shown in winning the
> V.C. When a man who has 
> been perverted from his youth ..."
> 
> With the C in V.C. highlighted as the "hit".
> 
> Absolutely useless.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> 
> Jim Hewson wrote:
>> I did something similar and got 850 books on the returned list.
>> I put in C# in quotes in the keywords field.
>> The second entry on the return had "relevant" searches with C# as one of
> the
>> choices.
>> I clicked that and a list of only C# books showed.
>> Jim
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
>> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 9:32 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Amazon book searches
>>
>> Dan,
>>
>>  > In the keywords field enter C#, then push the orange search button.
>>  >
>>  > You'll get a page full of all C# books!
>>
>> You do indeed.
>>
>> LOL... look at the number of hits.  Do you REALLY believe that there are
>> 14,220 books on C#?
>>
>> Now instead of "sort by" relevance select "Sort By" Avg Customer Review.
>>
>> Are you interested in "taking charge of your fertility"?  ;)  Well,
> perhaps
>> but that is another subject.
>>
>> How about cosmos by Carl Sagan?  As an amateur astronomer I am indeed
>> interested, but not when I am 
>> searching for C# books.
>>
>> Billboard of the top 40 hits anyone?  I for one am not remotely
> interested.
>> What in the heck does any of that have to do with C#?  The answer appears
> to
>> be that the search 
>> engine strips off the # and returns anything with... C anywhere in the
> name
>> or description.  Wow, 
>> how useful is THAT?
>>
>> So yea, if you don't care about what other people think about the books,
>> then you can indeed get 
>> hundreds (thousands?) of hits on C#.  OTOH if you immediately attempt to
> see
>> only the "best" books, 
>> then that search is not so helpful.
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>>
>> Dan Waters wrote:
>>> John - try this:
>>>
>>> Under Search or Category, select Books.
>>> Then select Advanced Search (directly under 'Search').
>>> In the keywords field enter C#, then push the orange search button.
>>>
>>> You'll get a page full of all C# books!
>>>
>>> Are you buying a Christmas present for someone?
>>>
>>>
>>> Good Luck,
>>> Dan


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Dec 10 14:53:46 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:53:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW:  Re:  OT: Amazon book searches
In-Reply-To: <4b214736.5644f10a.065e.5411@mx.google.com>
References: <4B20F8E2.4000503@colbyconsulting.com><0433764E0EB34C5DB718E71A4AB1E6D8@HAL9005>	<4B2104E1.5020200@colbyconsulting.com>	<791A45CEC6FB424DB9DADB829982DDE5@danwaters>	<4B21145F.50603@colbyconsulting.com>	<4b21286d.5744f10a.2cd7.4e0f@mx.google.com>	<4B212B36.5070004@colbyconsulting.com>
	<4b214736.5644f10a.065e.5411@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <4B215FDA.9010908@colbyconsulting.com>

And how did you do the "C# in the title" thing?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Jim Hewson wrote:
> I did too... but if you look at the second entry under C there is a link to
> C#.
> That link will give C# books. I further filtered it down to C# in the title
> -- 693 results
> 
> Try this:
> http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=node%3D697342&field-keywords=%22C%23%2
> 2 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----



From dwaters at usinternet.com  Thu Dec 10 15:40:09 2009
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:40:09 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW:  Re:  OT: Amazon book searches
In-Reply-To: <4B215FDA.9010908@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B20F8E2.4000503@colbyconsulting.com><0433764E0EB34C5DB718E71A4AB1E6D8@HAL9005>	<4B2104E1.5020200@colbyconsulting.com>	<791A45CEC6FB424DB9DADB829982DDE5@danwaters>	<4B21145F.50603@colbyconsulting.com>	<4b21286d.5744f10a.2cd7.4e0f@mx.google.com>	<4B212B36.5070004@colbyconsulting.com><4b214736.5644f10a.065e.5411@mx.google.com>
	<4B215FDA.9010908@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <0DECBAB7D27B47F4A7247500C17D71E8@danwaters>

C'mon John!  You need to give this up.

Just look for VB.net!

;-)
Dan

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Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 2:54 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW: Re: OT: Amazon book searches

And how did you do the "C# in the title" thing?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Jim Hewson wrote:
> I did too... but if you look at the second entry under C there is a link
to
> C#.
> That link will give C# books. I further filtered it down to C# in the
title
> -- 693 results
> 
> Try this:
>
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=node%3D697342&field-keywords=%22C%23%2
> 2 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Dec 10 16:02:47 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:02:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW:  Re:  OT: Amazon book searches
In-Reply-To: <0DECBAB7D27B47F4A7247500C17D71E8@danwaters>
References: <4B20F8E2.4000503@colbyconsulting.com><0433764E0EB34C5DB718E71A4AB1E6D8@HAL9005>	<4B2104E1.5020200@colbyconsulting.com>	<791A45CEC6FB424DB9DADB829982DDE5@danwaters>	<4B21145F.50603@colbyconsulting.com>	<4b21286d.5744f10a.2cd7.4e0f@mx.google.com>	<4B212B36.5070004@colbyconsulting.com><4b214736.5644f10a.065e.5411@mx.google.com>	<4B215FDA.9010908@colbyconsulting.com>
	<0DECBAB7D27B47F4A7247500C17D71E8@danwaters>
Message-ID: <4B217007.4070505@colbyconsulting.com>

LOL, no REALLY.  I'm SOOOooooo close here...

;)

VB.Net was so much easier to search for.

I buy most of my books from Amazon, lots of them used for really cheap.  So this really does matter 
to me.  I have long groused about the sheer stupidity of what the Amazon search gives me back. 
Search for just about anything and the search gives back what you are looking for and at LEAST a 
couple of hundred (thousand / million) other things not even remotely connected to what you want.

I think it is intentional; I think that people get off track looking at unrelated stuff that they 
see and end up buying stuff that they weren't there to get.  But it is just annoying to me.

I can't remember ever seeing that second item in the search list that Jim mentions, but that is 
precisely what I was wanting.  But then he mentions "in the title" and makes me feel stupid all over 
again.  ;)

Of course he could just be pulling my leg.  I don't see anything obvious that would restrict the 
choices to "in the title".  Then again I never noticed that second search choice widget either.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Dan Waters wrote:
> C'mon John!  You need to give this up.
> 
> Just look for VB.net!
> 
> ;-)
> Dan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 2:54 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW: Re: OT: Amazon book searches
> 
> And how did you do the "C# in the title" thing?
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> 
> Jim Hewson wrote:
>> I did too... but if you look at the second entry under C there is a link
> to
>> C#.
>> That link will give C# books. I further filtered it down to C# in the
> title
>> -- 693 results
>>
>> Try this:
>>
> http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=node%3D697342&field-keywords=%22C%23%2
>> 2 
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
> 


From nd500_lo at charter.net  Thu Dec 10 18:16:37 2009
From: nd500_lo at charter.net (Dian)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:16:37 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW:  Re:  OT: Amazon book searches
In-Reply-To: <4B215993.5050900@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B20F8E2.4000503@colbyconsulting.com><0433764E0EB34C5DB718E71A4AB1E6D8@HAL9005>	<4B2104E1.5020200@colbyconsulting.com><791A45CEC6FB424DB9DADB829982DDE5@danwaters>	<4B21145F.50603@colbyconsulting.com><96C72A0D38A24D66B978367A59F0AE4E@jislaptopdev>
	<4B215993.5050900@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <02D2FE3DF48441F69E0C40887A936734@dsunit1>

I gave up on the Amazon search feature long ago. If I'm looking for anything
related to computing/programming, I go to InformIT and check out the library
titles until I find the one I think I want...THEN find it on Amazon...sorry,
I'm lazy and I get frustrated far too easily! 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:27 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW: Re: OT: Amazon book searches

This is the Amazon search.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


William Hindman wrote:
> ...use bing instead of Google ...this is exactly why I love bing :)
> 
> William

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From darren at activebilling.com.au  Thu Dec 10 19:39:23 2009
From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren - Active Billing)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:39:23 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A200K:Get file name after drag and drop
Message-ID: <043c01ca7a02$c60ffbe0$301b910a@denzilnote>

Hi team

 

Does anyone know how I can determine the file name of a file after it has been
dragged from (say the desktop) to an RTF field I have on an Access form?

 

Basically I be will write a reasonably simple import routine for a determined
file type

 

Normally I would have a text box on a form that stores the path and allow users
to invoke a browse dialogue box.

 

But I'd rather just let the user 'grab' the file and drop it onto a
pre-determined place (The RTF Field) on one of my forms - get the file name and
then perform the import routine

 

Make sense?

 

Many thanks in advance

 

Darren



From accessd at gfconsultants.com  Thu Dec 10 21:15:16 2009
From: accessd at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:15:16 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007 Password Cracker
Message-ID: <1cc47607$1e71f0ce$1bc24878$@com>

I need the password for some A2007 db's (a new client wants me to pull data 
out of a competitor's software that I am replacing).

Any suggestions for how to get the password?

I found a lot of options, but would appreciate some input on what you all 
are using.  And free would be cool as this is hopefully a one time deal.

Reuben Cummings


From delam at zyterra.com  Thu Dec 10 22:18:07 2009
From: delam at zyterra.com (Debbie)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:18:07 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007 Password Cracker
Message-ID: <C8021560-C0D5-4BBB-9512-E63C96D4D9C0@zyterra.com>

I only needed to do this once. I found a  service on the Internet that  
broke the password for a fixed price. There were lots of software  
packages, but I could not tell if it would work before I purchased. I  
do not remember who I got to crack the password. It was over 5 years  
and 3 computers ago, but I was happy with the results.

Debbie

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 10, 2009, at 9:15 PM, "Reuben Cummings" <accessd at gfconsultants.com 
 > wrote:

> I need the password for some A2007 db's (a new client wants me to  
> pull data
> out of a competitor's software that I am replacing).
>
> Any suggestions for how to get the password?
>
> I found a lot of options, but would appreciate some input on what  
> you all
> are using.  And free would be cool as this is hopefully a one time  
> deal.
>
> Reuben Cummings
> -- 
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From Darryl.Collins at anz.com  Thu Dec 10 22:28:18 2009
From: Darryl.Collins at anz.com (Collins, Darryl)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:28:18 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007 Password Cracker
In-Reply-To: <1cc47607$1e71f0ce$1bc24878$@com>
Message-ID: <6DC4725FDCDD72428D6114F1B6CC6E8101688CB7@EXUAU020HWT110.oceania.corp.anz.com>



I own and use this software.  Never had any problem, does the job fast
and well so the initial fee has been well worth it. I always think these
things will be a 'once off' but I have used it many times over the years
for all sorts of things.

http://www.lostpassword.com/


Here is the MS Access specific page
http://www.lostpassword.com/access.htm
 
Anyway... See if that going to suit you.

Cheers
Darryl.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Reuben
Cummings
Sent: Friday, 11 December 2009 2:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007 Password Cracker

I need the password for some A2007 db's (a new client wants me to pull
data out of a competitor's software that I am replacing).

Any suggestions for how to get the password?

I found a lot of options, but would appreciate some input on what you
all are using.  And free would be cool as this is hopefully a one time
deal.

Reuben Cummings
--
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From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 01:37:54 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:37:54 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007 Password Cracker
In-Reply-To: <6DC4725FDCDD72428D6114F1B6CC6E8101688CB7@EXUAU020HWT110.oceania.corp.anz.com>
References: <1cc47607$1e71f0ce$1bc24878$@com>
	<6DC4725FDCDD72428D6114F1B6CC6E8101688CB7@EXUAU020HWT110.oceania.corp.anz.com>
Message-ID: <4b21f706.0e67f10a.2365.6e0a@mx.google.com>

Hi Darry,

This shows the ease at which passwords can be broken and exactly why I store
my mdbs etc in a TrueCrypt (TC) container.

To get to the mdb you have to first crack the TC code and not only is that
near-impossible in a normal  life span using the fastest computers known to
mankind, but its very existence can be hidden.  And FREE.

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Collins, Darryl
Sent: 11 December 2009 04:28
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2007 Password Cracker



I own and use this software.  Never had any problem, does the job fast
and well so the initial fee has been well worth it. I always think these
things will be a 'once off' but I have used it many times over the years
for all sorts of things.

http://www.lostpassword.com/


Here is the MS Access specific page
http://www.lostpassword.com/access.htm
 
Anyway... See if that going to suit you.

Cheers
Darryl.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Reuben
Cummings
Sent: Friday, 11 December 2009 2:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007 Password Cracker

I need the password for some A2007 db's (a new client wants me to pull
data out of a competitor's software that I am replacing).

Any suggestions for how to get the password?

I found a lot of options, but would appreciate some input on what you
all are using.  And free would be cool as this is hopefully a one time
deal.

Reuben Cummings
--
AccessD mailing list
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http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
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Communication and the return e-mail, and do not read, copy, retransmit or
otherwise deal with it. Any views expressed in the Communication are those
of the individual sender only, unless expressly stated to be those of
Australia and New Zealand Banking Group Limited ABN 11 005 357 522, or any
of its related entities including ANZ National Bank Limited (together
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From robert at servicexp.com  Fri Dec 11 06:42:57 2009
From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 07:42:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007 Password Cracker
In-Reply-To: <4b21f706.0e67f10a.2365.6e0a@mx.google.com>
References: <1cc47607$1e71f0ce$1bc24878$@com>	<6DC4725FDCDD72428D6114F1B6CC6E8101688CB7@EXUAU020HWT110.oceania.corp.anz.com>
	<4b21f706.0e67f10a.2365.6e0a@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <000001ca7a5f$7b849a10$728dce30$@com>

Max, 
  Interesting.. How exactly does this work?  Are there any performance hits
when accessing the encrypted db from a FE?

WBR
Robert



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 2:38 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2007 Password Cracker

Hi Darry,

This shows the ease at which passwords can be broken and exactly why I store
my mdbs etc in a TrueCrypt (TC) container.

To get to the mdb you have to first crack the TC code and not only is that
near-impossible in a normal  life span using the fastest computers known to
mankind, but its very existence can be hidden.  And FREE.

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Collins, Darryl
Sent: 11 December 2009 04:28
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2007 Password Cracker



I own and use this software.  Never had any problem, does the job fast
and well so the initial fee has been well worth it. I always think these
things will be a 'once off' but I have used it many times over the years
for all sorts of things.

http://www.lostpassword.com/


Here is the MS Access specific page
http://www.lostpassword.com/access.htm
 
Anyway... See if that going to suit you.

Cheers
Darryl.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Reuben
Cummings
Sent: Friday, 11 December 2009 2:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007 Password Cracker

I need the password for some A2007 db's (a new client wants me to pull
data out of a competitor's software that I am replacing).

Any suggestions for how to get the password?

I found a lot of options, but would appreciate some input on what you
all are using.  And free would be cool as this is hopefully a one time
deal.

Reuben Cummings
--
AccessD mailing list
AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com

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of its related entities including ANZ National Bank Limited (together
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From jimdettman at verizon.net  Fri Dec 11 08:46:31 2009
From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:46:31 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007 Password Cracker
In-Reply-To: <6DC4725FDCDD72428D6114F1B6CC6E8101688CB7@EXUAU020HWT110.oceania.corp.anz.com>
References: <1cc47607$1e71f0ce$1bc24878$@com>
	<6DC4725FDCDD72428D6114F1B6CC6E8101688CB7@EXUAU020HWT110.oceania.corp.anz.com>
Message-ID: <473D7634E5B1434B979C5DEC7AD2A8A7@XPS>


  Interesting...I didn't think anyone had cracked the A2007 password yet.
Microsoft won't be happy...

   Ah...checking the link, doesn't look like they have.  Note:

"Recovers MS Access 2007 Database passwords using a combination of
Brute-Force, XieveT and Dictionary attacks "

  so they can't crack the password directly (they don't have the algorithm).

Jim. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Collins, Darryl
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:28 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2007 Password Cracker



I own and use this software.  Never had any problem, does the job fast
and well so the initial fee has been well worth it. I always think these
things will be a 'once off' but I have used it many times over the years
for all sorts of things.

http://www.lostpassword.com/


Here is the MS Access specific page
http://www.lostpassword.com/access.htm
 
Anyway... See if that going to suit you.

Cheers
Darryl.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Reuben
Cummings
Sent: Friday, 11 December 2009 2:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007 Password Cracker

I need the password for some A2007 db's (a new client wants me to pull
data out of a competitor's software that I am replacing).

Any suggestions for how to get the password?

I found a lot of options, but would appreciate some input on what you
all are using.  And free would be cool as this is hopefully a one time
deal.

Reuben Cummings
--
AccessD mailing list
AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com

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Australia and New Zealand Banking Group Limited ABN 11 005 357 522, or any
of its related entities including ANZ National Bank Limited (together
"ANZ"). ANZ does not accept liability in connection with the integrity of or
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Dec 11 08:29:00 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:29:00 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A call to the helpdesk
Message-ID: <sb226552.078@cactus.dk>

Hi all

Since we started business in 1993 we've had numerous not-so-straight calls from clients but none like this.

First: Client is a bit special - running a medium sized centre for plants, garden and accessories with three cash lines. The current owners bought the site about three years ago from the original owners who had ran it since 2001. Most equipment and software was carried forward from their previous business established in 1998. That year they bought a complete setup from us with a Novell NetWare 4.11 server, IBM pcs with Win98 and an Access based ERP system heavily modified by us to handle all inventory, heavy duty label printing and POS functions including barcode scanners and cash receipts.
All this to tell you that this is proven equipment which has ran business for 7 days a week excluding Christmas and New Year in 11 years. Further, the server was bought second hand - it was our own primary server from 1993 which means - hold your breath - that we are dealing with a 16 years old Micron clone with 486 processor and 32 MB of ram, also an Adaptec SCSI controller, a VGA board and a 3Com NIC and, of course, ISA bus. The power supply and the harddisk have been replaced once. Talk about value for money.
The Access mdb are shared on the NetWare server as are the main laser printer. The pcs are for the cash lines, and one is for the back office where it also controls two serial attached heavy duty label printers printing water resistant labels.

We haven't heard from the client for some years and believed they had trashed it all and bought something new. But no. Yesterday the phone rang and we had a little chit-chat. Then:

Client: We have taken up fireworks as a product line and need to create a new product group for this to be able to print labels, but we can't get access to the system!
Me: Access? You just open the sales module and create the product group. Then run the routines to bring it forward to the cash line. Pretty straight forward.

C: We know. We have written down somewhere how to. But we can't get access.
M: Well, do you get some kind of error message?

C: Yes. It's something about printer server is down.
M: OK. When do you see this message? When you log in?

C: Log in? 
M: Yes, when you turn the machine on, after a while you login. It is a box labelled Novell. Did you see that?

C: No. It is always on.
M: OK, then perhaps you have lost the network connection to the server (comment: Very unlikely, but you seek for causes)
M: Do you have access to the Internet?

C: Oh, you better get my partner. I'm not so good with computers and so.
M: OK.

C: (The partner takes over) Yes we have access. (comment: Clients lie. Always put cross-checking questions). 
C: But we can't access that.
M: (slightly confused). Oh. But please check the network cables. Is the machine connected?

C: Yes, the cable runs to the box (comment: switch) besides the server.
M: Do you see some lights flashing at the cable's connections?

C: Yes.
M: And the cash lines are operating?

C: Yes.
M: Fine. Then the server and the network is operating.
M: We better establish a firm point. How about rebooting the machine? Just press Ctrl-Alt-Del.

C: (pushes keys a couple of times) It doesn't react.
M: It may have locked up completely. Turn it off and then on.

C: (Turns it off, waits, turns it on)
M: (After a little while) Well, what do you see on the screen. A Novell login?

C: No, it displays the same.
M: The same what?

C: It looks like it has done all the time. Something about printer server is off.
M: (At this point realising that the monitor is connected to the server, and now the error message suddenly makes sense)
M: Oh my, you are looking at the wrong monitor. What about the monitor for the workstation?

C: What monitor?
M: (Now more than slightly confused) Well, you have a monitor for the workstation, right?

C: There is only this one monitor here.
M: OK. Then someone must have moved the monitor from the workstation to the server to watch the backup log. 
M: (An old monitor used to be attached to the server, and I thought it was now gone) 
M: Move it back to the workstation so it can tell us what is happening.

C: (Connects the monitor to the workstation)
M: What do you see?

C: There is a message about post ...
M: (Knowing that this means some kind of hardware change on an IBM) It has detected some change in hardware. Just press F1 to continue.

C: (Pressing some keys) Nothing happens.
M: Strange. Are you sure the keyboard is connected? Does the Caps and Num lock work?

C: Yes, I can turn them on and off. That's all.
M: (Now realising the impossible) Please check the keyboard cable. Where is it connected please?

C: (Fumbling with cables) It runs to the server ...
M: OK. That explains. The keyboard has been moved to the server too. Please move it to the workstation.

C: The plug doesn't fit!
M: (Suddenly remembering that old keyboards had a DIN plug and not a PS/2 plug)
M: The keyboard and the monitor are those intended to be used with the server, I guess. Do they look pretty old?

C: Yes.
M: OK. Both the monitor and the keyboard are those for the server.
M: Where are the keyboard and monitor for the workstation? Has someone disconnected those?
M: (comment: At this point the partner had left the room)

C: I don't know. There are no more monitors or keyboards in the office (comment: office is pretty small and easy to glance)
M: But how do you operate the workstation? Don't you use it for printing the thick labels?

C: Yes we do. Don't know where the monitor has gone. (He yells the partner with no success).
M: OK. You better talk to your partner and ask where he has taken the monitor and keyboard.

C: I'll do that.
M: Fine. And when you have attached these, if you still have a problem, please call again.
C: Yes. Thanks! (hangs up)

The client didn't call back.
Once again, the people working full time at the helpdesks around deserve the deepest respect. I know for sure I wouldn't have the patience needed.

/gustav




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Dec 11 09:24:41 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:24:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW:   A call to the helpdesk
In-Reply-To: <sb226552.078@cactus.dk>
References: <sb226552.078@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <4B226439.20602@colbyconsulting.com>

ROTFL.  It takes a certain type of personality.  Or good drugs.

I didn't say that.  That was a flashback.  Oh noooooo I'm seeing colors...

;)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> Since we started business in 1993 we've had numerous not-so-straight calls from clients but none like this.
> 
> First: Client is a bit special - running a medium sized centre for plants, garden and accessories with three cash lines. The current owners bought the site about three years ago from the original owners who had ran it since 2001. Most equipment and software was carried forward from their previous business established in 1998. That year they bought a complete setup from us with a Novell NetWare 4.11 server, IBM pcs with Win98 and an Access based ERP system heavily modified by us to handle all inventory, heavy duty label printing and POS functions including barcode scanners and cash receipts.
> All this to tell you that this is proven equipment which has ran business for 7 days a week excluding Christmas and New Year in 11 years. Further, the server was bought second hand - it was our own primary server from 1993 which means - hold your breath - that we are dealing with a 16 years old Micron clone with 486 processor and 32 MB of ram, also an Adaptec SCSI controller, a VGA board and a 3Com NIC and, of course, ISA bus. The power supply and the harddisk have been replaced once. Talk about value for money.
> The Access mdb are shared on the NetWare server as are the main laser printer. The pcs are for the cash lines, and one is for the back office where it also controls two serial attached heavy duty label printers printing water resistant labels.
> 
> We haven't heard from the client for some years and believed they had trashed it all and bought something new. But no. Yesterday the phone rang and we had a little chit-chat. Then:
> 
> Client: We have taken up fireworks as a product line and need to create a new product group for this to be able to print labels, but we can't get access to the system!
> Me: Access? You just open the sales module and create the product group. Then run the routines to bring it forward to the cash line. Pretty straight forward.
> 
> C: We know. We have written down somewhere how to. But we can't get access.
> M: Well, do you get some kind of error message?
> 
> C: Yes. It's something about printer server is down.
> M: OK. When do you see this message? When you log in?
> 
> C: Log in? 
> M: Yes, when you turn the machine on, after a while you login. It is a box labelled Novell. Did you see that?
> 
> C: No. It is always on.
> M: OK, then perhaps you have lost the network connection to the server (comment: Very unlikely, but you seek for causes)
> M: Do you have access to the Internet?
> 
> C: Oh, you better get my partner. I'm not so good with computers and so.
> M: OK.
> 
> C: (The partner takes over) Yes we have access. (comment: Clients lie. Always put cross-checking questions). 
> C: But we can't access that.
> M: (slightly confused). Oh. But please check the network cables. Is the machine connected?
> 
> C: Yes, the cable runs to the box (comment: switch) besides the server.
> M: Do you see some lights flashing at the cable's connections?
> 
> C: Yes.
> M: And the cash lines are operating?
> 
> C: Yes.
> M: Fine. Then the server and the network is operating.
> M: We better establish a firm point. How about rebooting the machine? Just press Ctrl-Alt-Del.
> 
> C: (pushes keys a couple of times) It doesn't react.
> M: It may have locked up completely. Turn it off and then on.
> 
> C: (Turns it off, waits, turns it on)
> M: (After a little while) Well, what do you see on the screen. A Novell login?
> 
> C: No, it displays the same.
> M: The same what?
> 
> C: It looks like it has done all the time. Something about printer server is off.
> M: (At this point realising that the monitor is connected to the server, and now the error message suddenly makes sense)
> M: Oh my, you are looking at the wrong monitor. What about the monitor for the workstation?
> 
> C: What monitor?
> M: (Now more than slightly confused) Well, you have a monitor for the workstation, right?
> 
> C: There is only this one monitor here.
> M: OK. Then someone must have moved the monitor from the workstation to the server to watch the backup log. 
> M: (An old monitor used to be attached to the server, and I thought it was now gone) 
> M: Move it back to the workstation so it can tell us what is happening.
> 
> C: (Connects the monitor to the workstation)
> M: What do you see?
> 
> C: There is a message about post ...
> M: (Knowing that this means some kind of hardware change on an IBM) It has detected some change in hardware. Just press F1 to continue.
> 
> C: (Pressing some keys) Nothing happens.
> M: Strange. Are you sure the keyboard is connected? Does the Caps and Num lock work?
> 
> C: Yes, I can turn them on and off. That's all.
> M: (Now realising the impossible) Please check the keyboard cable. Where is it connected please?
> 
> C: (Fumbling with cables) It runs to the server ...
> M: OK. That explains. The keyboard has been moved to the server too. Please move it to the workstation.
> 
> C: The plug doesn't fit!
> M: (Suddenly remembering that old keyboards had a DIN plug and not a PS/2 plug)
> M: The keyboard and the monitor are those intended to be used with the server, I guess. Do they look pretty old?
> 
> C: Yes.
> M: OK. Both the monitor and the keyboard are those for the server.
> M: Where are the keyboard and monitor for the workstation? Has someone disconnected those?
> M: (comment: At this point the partner had left the room)
> 
> C: I don't know. There are no more monitors or keyboards in the office (comment: office is pretty small and easy to glance)
> M: But how do you operate the workstation? Don't you use it for printing the thick labels?
> 
> C: Yes we do. Don't know where the monitor has gone. (He yells the partner with no success).
> M: OK. You better talk to your partner and ask where he has taken the monitor and keyboard.
> 
> C: I'll do that.
> M: Fine. And when you have attached these, if you still have a problem, please call again.
> C: Yes. Thanks! (hangs up)
> 
> The client didn't call back.
> Once again, the people working full time at the helpdesks around deserve the deepest respect. I know for sure I wouldn't have the patience needed.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 


From accessd at gfconsultants.com  Fri Dec 11 09:50:04 2009
From: accessd at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:50:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
In-Reply-To: <sb210981.051@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <57BAA4FB78414D96AAA6C5D59FC80B03@reubennx9500>

Nope.  Just did it again and you're right.  Yours works fine.
I must have misplaced something when I was trying it Wednesday night.
Sorry.

Thanks, Gustav.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gustav Brock
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:45 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> 
> 
> Hi Reuben
> 
> I did some tests with no errors and returning the correct 
> data type. Are you sure about this?
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> >>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 10-12-2009 12:57 >>>
> Thanks.  That appears to work.  However, I think your 
> paranthesis are off.
> For anyone wanting this for future use I had to change it to...
> 
> >   CurResult = CCur((CurAmount * CCur(100 * SngPercentage))/ 100)
> 
> Only added two paranthesis (to completely inclose the 
> multiplication part),
> but it makes sure the math gets done before it gets divided by 100.
> 
> Thanks for the help.
> 
> Reuben Cummings
> GFC, LLC
> 812.523.1017
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> > Gustav Brock
> > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:18 AM
> > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Reuben
> > 
> > There is your explanation: cur * sng returns a double.
> > 
> > What you could do is to keep storing the percentage as a 
> > single. When using it for calculation, do:
> > 
> >   CurResult = CCur(CurAmount * CCur(100 * SngPercentage) / 100)
> > 
> > This will calculate using your six decimals and (with CCur) 
> > round the result to four decimals.
> > 
> > /gustav
> > 
> > 
> > >>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 10-12-2009 03:16 >>>
> > Stuart and Charlotte, I'll play with the single/double issue.
> > 
> > The dollar amounts are all currency.
> > 
> > The percentage (.25xxx) is a single.  Not sure why as this is 
> > the first time
> > I've ever used a single.
> > All these years and I've never used single and the first time 
> > I do it BITES
> > me.
> > I wanted to use currency for the percentage, but the state 
> > defines these
> > rates to 6 decimals.
> > 
> > Reuben Cummings
> > GFC, LLC
> > 812.523.1017
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 





From ssharkins at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 10:13:15 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:13:15 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Another article you might want to take part in
Message-ID: <332033CB1E684498ADD7617B6AC33B2A@SusanOne>

I'm writing about the Access features/tips... whatever that we forget 
about -- they work great, but we forget to use them, usually because we 
don't use them all the time.

If you have something you want to add, I'll give you credit and a link in 
the article.

Susan H. 



From ssharkins at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 10:14:24 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:14:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Fw: Another article you might want to take part in
Message-ID: <41C13C4E6D8C4B71A76088CABE36559B@SusanOne>

Don't take me too literal on the feature/tip thing -- can be a process, 
formula, function, whatever -- nothing terribly complicated or long though.

Susan H.



> I'm writing about the Access features/tips... whatever that we forget 
> about -- they work great, but we forget to use them, usually because we 
> don't use them all the time.
>
> If you have something you want to add, I'll give you credit and a link in 
> the article.
>
> Susan H. 



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Dec 11 09:58:37 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:58:37 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
Message-ID: <sb227a57.083@cactus.dk>

Hi Reuben

What a relief! Thanks for the feedback!

/gustav


>>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 11-12-2009 16:50 >>>
Nope.  Just did it again and you're right.  Yours works fine.
I must have misplaced something when I was trying it Wednesday night.
Sorry.

Thanks, Gustav.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gustav Brock
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:45 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> 
> 
> Hi Reuben
> 
> I did some tests with no errors and returning the correct 
> data type. Are you sure about this?
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> >>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 10-12-2009 12:57 >>>
> Thanks.  That appears to work.  However, I think your 
> paranthesis are off.
> For anyone wanting this for future use I had to change it to...
> 
> >   CurResult = CCur((CurAmount * CCur(100 * SngPercentage))/ 100)
> 
> Only added two paranthesis (to completely inclose the 
> multiplication part),
> but it makes sure the math gets done before it gets divided by 100.
> 
> Thanks for the help.
> 
> Reuben Cummings
> GFC, LLC
> 812.523.1017
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> > Gustav Brock
> > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:18 AM
> > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Reuben
> > 
> > There is your explanation: cur * sng returns a double.
> > 
> > What you could do is to keep storing the percentage as a 
> > single. When using it for calculation, do:
> > 
> >   CurResult = CCur(CurAmount * CCur(100 * SngPercentage) / 100)
> > 
> > This will calculate using your six decimals and (with CCur) 
> > round the result to four decimals.
> > 
> > /gustav





From accessd at gfconsultants.com  Fri Dec 11 11:01:46 2009
From: accessd at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:01:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
In-Reply-To: <sb227a57.083@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <14A636E5856449E6AC5FFA694C30167B@reubennx9500>

My question is...
What data type is the result of your equation?

I understant multiplying by 100 before converting to Currency in order to
maintain all the decimals.
However, when you divide by 100 what's the result?  If it stayed currency
wouldn't you lose two of the decimals?

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gustav Brock
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 10:59 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> 
> 
> Hi Reuben
> 
> What a relief! Thanks for the feedback!
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> >>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 11-12-2009 16:50 >>>
> Nope.  Just did it again and you're right.  Yours works fine.
> I must have misplaced something when I was trying it Wednesday night.
> Sorry.
> 
> Thanks, Gustav.
> 
> Reuben Cummings
> GFC, LLC
> 812.523.1017
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> > Gustav Brock
> > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:45 AM
> > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Reuben
> > 
> > I did some tests with no errors and returning the correct 
> > data type. Are you sure about this?
> > 
> > /gustav
> > 
> > 
> > >>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 10-12-2009 12:57 >>>
> > Thanks.  That appears to work.  However, I think your 
> > paranthesis are off.
> > For anyone wanting this for future use I had to change it to...
> > 
> > >   CurResult = CCur((CurAmount * CCur(100 * SngPercentage))/ 100)
> > 
> > Only added two paranthesis (to completely inclose the 
> > multiplication part),
> > but it makes sure the math gets done before it gets divided by 100.
> > 
> > Thanks for the help.
> > 
> > Reuben Cummings
> > GFC, LLC
> > 812.523.1017
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> > > Gustav Brock
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:18 AM
> > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi Reuben
> > > 
> > > There is your explanation: cur * sng returns a double.
> > > 
> > > What you could do is to keep storing the percentage as a 
> > > single. When using it for calculation, do:
> > > 
> > >   CurResult = CCur(CurAmount * CCur(100 * SngPercentage) / 100)
> > > 
> > > This will calculate using your six decimals and (with CCur) 
> > > round the result to four decimals.
> > > 
> > > /gustav
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 





From dwaters at usinternet.com  Fri Dec 11 11:17:49 2009
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:17:49 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Another article you might want to take part in
In-Reply-To: <332033CB1E684498ADD7617B6AC33B2A@SusanOne>
References: <332033CB1E684498ADD7617B6AC33B2A@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <76EFB1B67FCD434AB5FCF225C1BE760B@danwaters>

Hi Susan,

How many do you currently have?  How many more do you need?

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 10:13 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Another article you might want to take part in

I'm writing about the Access features/tips... whatever that we forget 
about -- they work great, but we forget to use them, usually because we 
don't use them all the time.

If you have something you want to add, I'll give you credit and a link in 
the article.

Susan H. 

-- 
AccessD mailing list
AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com



From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Dec 11 11:25:38 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:25:38 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
Message-ID: <sb228ec4.087@cactus.dk>

Hi Reuben

The result of this:

  CurAmount * CCur(100 * SngPercentage) / 100

is a double. That's why I converted it to currency:

  CCur(CurAmount * CCur(100 * SngPercentage) / 100)

but, of course, that will round to four decimals.
If you really need six decimals for the result, you have three options:

1. Leave it as a double. For later calculations, multiply by 100, calculate, divide by 100.

2. Multiply the result by 100 by leaving out the dividing by 100:

  CurAmount * CCur(100 * SngPercentage)

For later calculations, divide the result by 100.

3. Convert to decimal. This is a subtype of variant and is quite useful for interim calculations meaning results you need in your code without storing them to a table.
Newer version of Access features the decimal data type for tables, but it is known to be buggy in a dangerous and destructive way, so don't.

/gustav


>>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 11-12-2009 18:01 >>>
My question is...
What data type is the result of your equation?

I understant multiplying by 100 before converting to Currency in order to
maintain all the decimals.
However, when you divide by 100 what's the result?  If it stayed currency
wouldn't you lose two of the decimals?

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gustav Brock
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 10:59 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> 
> 
> Hi Reuben
> 
> What a relief! Thanks for the feedback!
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> >>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 11-12-2009 16:50 >>>
> Nope.  Just did it again and you're right.  Yours works fine.
> I must have misplaced something when I was trying it Wednesday night.
> Sorry.
> 
> Thanks, Gustav.
> 
> Reuben Cummings
> GFC, LLC
> 812.523.1017
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> > Gustav Brock
> > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:45 AM
> > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Reuben
> > 
> > I did some tests with no errors and returning the correct 
> > data type. Are you sure about this?
> > 
> > /gustav
> > 
> > 
> > >>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 10-12-2009 12:57 >>>
> > Thanks.  That appears to work.  However, I think your 
> > paranthesis are off.
> > For anyone wanting this for future use I had to change it to...
> > 
> > >   CurResult = CCur((CurAmount * CCur(100 * SngPercentage))/ 100)
> > 
> > Only added two paranthesis (to completely inclose the 
> > multiplication part),
> > but it makes sure the math gets done before it gets divided by 100.
> > 
> > Thanks for the help.
> > 
> > Reuben Cummings
> > GFC, LLC
> > 812.523.1017
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> > > Gustav Brock
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:18 AM
> > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi Reuben
> > > 
> > > There is your explanation: cur * sng returns a double.
> > > 
> > > What you could do is to keep storing the percentage as a 
> > > single. When using it for calculation, do:
> > > 
> > >   CurResult = CCur(CurAmount * CCur(100 * SngPercentage) / 100)
> > > 
> > > This will calculate using your six decimals and (with CCur) 
> > > round the result to four decimals.
> > > 
> > > /gustav





From ssharkins at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 12:34:50 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:34:50 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Another article you might want to take part in
References: <332033CB1E684498ADD7617B6AC33B2A@SusanOne>
	<76EFB1B67FCD434AB5FCF225C1BE760B@danwaters>
Message-ID: <7970904760DF4205B7ED997051D88EB1@SusanOne>

Don't have any -- I haven't started writing yet. I'll need at least 10. I 
can probably come up with 10 on my own, but I wanted to put this out there 
for you guys -- I know some of you like the opportunity to put your links 
out there. It's not much... but I like to do it when I can.

Susan H.


> Hi Susan,
>
> How many do you currently have?  How many more do you need?



From accessd at gfconsultants.com  Fri Dec 11 12:56:34 2009
From: accessd at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:56:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
In-Reply-To: <sb228ec4.087@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <167D62DD7F7148658F7F7F9963169617@reubennx9500>

I need the result to be currency so everything is working perfectly.
I guess it just befuddles me that you could take a currency and if you
divide it by 100 it would change back to double.  In my mind, it simply
leaves it as currency and you lose two decimals.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gustav Brock
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:26 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> 
> 
> Hi Reuben
> 
> The result of this:
> 
>   CurAmount * CCur(100 * SngPercentage) / 100
> 
> is a double. That's why I converted it to currency:
> 
>   CCur(CurAmount * CCur(100 * SngPercentage) / 100)
> 
> but, of course, that will round to four decimals.
> If you really need six decimals for the result, you have 
> three options:
> 
> 1. Leave it as a double. For later calculations, multiply by 
> 100, calculate, divide by 100.
> 
> 2. Multiply the result by 100 by leaving out the dividing by 100:
> 
>   CurAmount * CCur(100 * SngPercentage)
> 
> For later calculations, divide the result by 100.
> 
> 3. Convert to decimal. This is a subtype of variant and is 
> quite useful for interim calculations meaning results you 
> need in your code without storing them to a table.
> Newer version of Access features the decimal data type for 
> tables, but it is known to be buggy in a dangerous and 
> destructive way, so don't.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> >>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 11-12-2009 18:01 >>>
> My question is...
> What data type is the result of your equation?
> 
> I understant multiplying by 100 before converting to Currency 
> in order to
> maintain all the decimals.
> However, when you divide by 100 what's the result?  If it 
> stayed currency
> wouldn't you lose two of the decimals?
> 
> Reuben Cummings
> GFC, LLC
> 812.523.1017
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> > Gustav Brock
> > Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 10:59 AM
> > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Reuben
> > 
> > What a relief! Thanks for the feedback!
> > 
> > /gustav
> > 
> > 
> > >>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 11-12-2009 16:50 >>>
> > Nope.  Just did it again and you're right.  Yours works fine.
> > I must have misplaced something when I was trying it 
> Wednesday night.
> > Sorry.
> > 
> > Thanks, Gustav.
> > 
> > Reuben Cummings
> > GFC, LLC
> > 812.523.1017
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> > > Gustav Brock
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:45 AM
> > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi Reuben
> > > 
> > > I did some tests with no errors and returning the correct 
> > > data type. Are you sure about this?
> > > 
> > > /gustav
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 10-12-2009 12:57 >>>
> > > Thanks.  That appears to work.  However, I think your 
> > > paranthesis are off.
> > > For anyone wanting this for future use I had to change it to...
> > > 
> > > >   CurResult = CCur((CurAmount * CCur(100 * SngPercentage))/ 100)
> > > 
> > > Only added two paranthesis (to completely inclose the 
> > > multiplication part),
> > > but it makes sure the math gets done before it gets 
> divided by 100.
> > > 
> > > Thanks for the help.
> > > 
> > > Reuben Cummings
> > > GFC, LLC
> > > 812.523.1017
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> > > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> > > > Gustav Brock
> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:18 AM
> > > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> > > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Hi Reuben
> > > > 
> > > > There is your explanation: cur * sng returns a double.
> > > > 
> > > > What you could do is to keep storing the percentage as a 
> > > > single. When using it for calculation, do:
> > > > 
> > > >   CurResult = CCur(CurAmount * CCur(100 * SngPercentage) / 100)
> > > > 
> > > > This will calculate using your six decimals and (with CCur) 
> > > > round the result to four decimals.
> > > > 
> > > > /gustav
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 





From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Dec 11 13:16:07 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:16:07 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
Message-ID: <sb22a8b1.088@cactus.dk>

Hi Reuben

Well, that's the tiny details. To know about these or at least to be able to smell a potential danger before it pops forward is what makes you stand out from the script kiddies.

/gustav


>>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 11-12-2009 19:56 >>>
I need the result to be currency so everything is working perfectly.
I guess it just befuddles me that you could take a currency and if you
divide it by 100 it would change back to double.  In my mind, it simply
leaves it as currency and you lose two decimals.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gustav Brock
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:26 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> 
> 
> Hi Reuben
> 
> The result of this:
> 
>   CurAmount * CCur(100 * SngPercentage) / 100
> 
> is a double. That's why I converted it to currency:
> 
>   CCur(CurAmount * CCur(100 * SngPercentage) / 100)
> 
> but, of course, that will round to four decimals.
> If you really need six decimals for the result, you have 
> three options:
> 
> 1. Leave it as a double. For later calculations, multiply by 
> 100, calculate, divide by 100.
> 
> 2. Multiply the result by 100 by leaving out the dividing by 100:
> 
>   CurAmount * CCur(100 * SngPercentage)
> 
> For later calculations, divide the result by 100.
> 
> 3. Convert to decimal. This is a subtype of variant and is 
> quite useful for interim calculations meaning results you 
> need in your code without storing them to a table.
> Newer version of Access features the decimal data type for 
> tables, but it is known to be buggy in a dangerous and 
> destructive way, so don't.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> >>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 11-12-2009 18:01 >>>
> My question is...
> What data type is the result of your equation?
> 
> I understant multiplying by 100 before converting to Currency in order to
> maintain all the decimals.
> However, when you divide by 100 what's the result?  If it stayed currency
> wouldn't you lose two of the decimals?
> 
> Reuben Cummings
> GFC, LLC
> 812.523.1017





From dkalsow at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 11 13:54:21 2009
From: dkalsow at yahoo.com (Dale Kalsow)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:54:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Printing to a network port
In-Reply-To: <000001ca7a5f$7b849a10$728dce30$@com>
Message-ID: <268857.46319.qm@web50407.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


Does anyone have any good examples how of to send data directly to a network ip address?? It would be a local ip address (if that makes any difference).
?
thanks!
?
Dale


      

From Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com  Fri Dec 11 14:00:32 2009
From: Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:00:32 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
In-Reply-To: <167D62DD7F7148658F7F7F9963169617@reubennx9500>
References: <sb228ec4.087@cactus.dk>
	<167D62DD7F7148658F7F7F9963169617@reubennx9500>
Message-ID: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E24290D28@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>

It's all there in the help file...

==============================================
/ Operator
      

Used to divide two numbers and return a floating-point result.

Syntax

result = number1/number2

The / operator syntax has these parts:

Part Description 
result Required; any numeric variable. 
number1 Required; any numeric expression. 
number2 Required; any numeric expression. 



Remarks

The data type of result is usually a Double or a Double variant. The following are exceptions to this rule:

If 
Both expressions are Byte, Integer, or Single expressions, Then result is  a Single unless it overflows its legal range; in which case, an error occurs. 
Both expressions are Byte, Integer, or Single variants, Then result is a Single variant unless it overflows its legal range; in which case, result is a Variant containing a Double. 
Division involves a Decimal and any other data type, Then result is a Decimal data type. 


One or both expressions are Null expressions, Then result is result is Null. Any expression that is Empty is treated as 0.
==============================================
Especially where M$ is concerned, it's not what you *think* would make sense, it's what they say is implemented that counts. :-)

Lambert
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Reuben Cummings
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 1:57 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K

I need the result to be currency so everything is working perfectly.
I guess it just befuddles me that you could take a currency and if you divide it by 100 it would change back to double.  In my mind, it simply leaves it as currency and you lose two decimals.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017



From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 14:23:39 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:23:39 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007 Password Cracker
In-Reply-To: <000001ca7a5f$7b849a10$728dce30$@com>
References: <1cc47607$1e71f0ce$1bc24878$@com>	<6DC4725FDCDD72428D6114F1B6CC6E8101688CB7@EXUAU020HWT110.oceania.corp.anz.com>	<4b21f706.0e67f10a.2365.6e0a@mx.google.com>
	<000001ca7a5f$7b849a10$728dce30$@com>
Message-ID: <4b22aa8f.1067f10a.739e.ffffa908@mx.google.com>

Hi Rob,
1. download and install Truecrypt (free)
2. decide on whether you want a container (file) or a complete drive (yep,
the whole drive if you want).
3. decide if you want visible to others  or not.
4. decide on encryption type (it explains them)
5. decide on the size of container.
6. decide on a password.  The  longer the better.  You cannot later  change
it unless you have the purchased program.
7. run  the encryption  program.
8. when finished, run truecrypt again and "mount" it to a drive  letter  of
your choice (it will show you available ones).
9. it will then look just like any  other  drives. You can create /delete
folders, files etc.  absolutely no  difference.
10. copy your mdb in the  mounted  drive and use it  as  normal.
11. when finished,  dismount the drive and it will then  appear as a garbage
file to the outside  world.
12. The daily use of  it is  so simple and easy.
13. I have been using it for years.

Couple of points:
1. If you are worrying about somebody copying the encrypted  file  and then
working on it,  make it a hugh size.  I have,  for  example, a personal  mdb
of a few hundred Mbytes sitting inside a multi-Gbyte encrypted file.  Try to
suck the sense  out of that!!
2. You can  also run  it auto from USB memory sticks etc.
3. The only gotcha I have come across is to beware of upgrading the
truecrypt program without first mounting and moving the contents of the
previous  version,  then upgrade  and copy the "stuff" back into the new
version.  The  newer version will not  "see" the older version (it may do on
a paid version though).
4. If I lose my memory stick, I don't have to worry about somebody accessing
the info on there.

Hth

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: 11 December 2009 12:43
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2007 Password Cracker

Max, 
  Interesting.. How exactly does this work?  Are there any performance hits
when accessing the encrypted db from a FE?

WBR
Robert



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 2:38 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2007 Password Cracker

Hi Darry,

This shows the ease at which passwords can be broken and exactly why I store
my mdbs etc in a TrueCrypt (TC) container.

To get to the mdb you have to first crack the TC code and not only is that
near-impossible in a normal  life span using the fastest computers known to
mankind, but its very existence can be hidden.  And FREE.

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Collins, Darryl
Sent: 11 December 2009 04:28
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2007 Password Cracker



I own and use this software.  Never had any problem, does the job fast
and well so the initial fee has been well worth it. I always think these
things will be a 'once off' but I have used it many times over the years
for all sorts of things.

http://www.lostpassword.com/


Here is the MS Access specific page
http://www.lostpassword.com/access.htm
 
Anyway... See if that going to suit you.

Cheers
Darryl.


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Cummings
Sent: Friday, 11 December 2009 2:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007 Password Cracker

I need the password for some A2007 db's (a new client wants me to pull
data out of a competitor's software that I am replacing).

Any suggestions for how to get the password?

I found a lot of options, but would appreciate some input on what you
all are using.  And free would be cool as this is hopefully a one time
deal.

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From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Fri Dec 11 14:23:44 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:23:44 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Another article you might want to take part in
In-Reply-To: <7970904760DF4205B7ED997051D88EB1@SusanOne>
References: <332033CB1E684498ADD7617B6AC33B2A@SusanOne>	<76EFB1B67FCD434AB5FCF225C1BE760B@danwaters>
	<7970904760DF4205B7ED997051D88EB1@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <4b22aa92.1067f10a.739e.ffffa90a@mx.google.com>

My tip to secure a database is to store it inside a Truecrypt containerfile.

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: 11 December 2009 18:35
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Another article you might want to take part in

Don't have any -- I haven't started writing yet. I'll need at least 10. I 
can probably come up with 10 on my own, but I wanted to put this out there 
for you guys -- I know some of you like the opportunity to put your links 
out there. It's not much... but I like to do it when I can.

Susan H.


> Hi Susan,
>
> How many do you currently have?  How many more do you need?

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From Susan.Klos at fldoe.org  Fri Dec 11 15:07:47 2009
From: Susan.Klos at fldoe.org (Klos, Susan)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:07:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD]  A call to the helpdesk
In-Reply-To: <mailman.28418.1260547999.8732.accessd@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <mailman.28418.1260547999.8732.accessd@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <66D9CA142291D741B515207C09AA3BC3147D00@MAIL2.FLDOE.INT>

I am sure many of us have similar stories.  The one that always comes to
my mind was a call from a distraught user while I was on the help desk.

She insisted that there was nothing on her screen when she started her
omputer.

Me: Is the screen (monitor) turned on?
U:  I don't know.
Me: Is there a small light on anywhere?
U: No.
Me: Is the monitor plugged in?
U:  Yes, it is plugged into that thingy on the floor that has all the
plugs in it.  (I figured she was talking about the surge protector)
Me:  OK.  Is the "thingy with the plugs in it" plugged in?
U: Yes.
At this point I was a bit confused so I went to the user's office to
track down the problem.  I found the surge protector was in fact plugged
in--to itself.  I discretely plugged it into the wall and fiddled a bit
with the plugs to make a show of trying to figure it out.  Then I turned
on the computer and the monitor and voila! It worked.  I suggested to
her that if things don't start she be sure the plugs are securely
plugged into the surge protector and that the surge protector is
securely plugged intot he wall.

Susan Klos
Senior Database Analyst
Florida Department of Education
Evaluation and Reporting Office
Phone: 850.245.0708
Fax: 850.245.0710
email: susan.klos at fldoe.org

-----Original Message-----


Message: 19
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:29:00 +0100
From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
Subject: [AccessD] A call to the helpdesk
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <sb226552.078 at cactus.dk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

Hi all

Since we started business in 1993 we've had numerous not-so-straight
calls from clients but none like this.

First: Client is a bit special - running a medium sized centre for
plants, garden and accessories with three cash lines. The current owners
bought the site about three years ago from the original owners who had
ran it since 2001. Most equipment and software was carried forward from
their previous business established in 1998. That year they bought a
complete setup from us with a Novell NetWare 4.11 server, IBM pcs with
Win98 and an Access based ERP system heavily modified by us to handle
all inventory, heavy duty label printing and POS functions including
barcode scanners and cash receipts.
All this to tell you that this is proven equipment which has ran
business for 7 days a week excluding Christmas and New Year in 11 years.
Further, the server was bought second hand - it was our own primary
server from 1993 which means - hold your breath - that we are dealing
with a 16 years old Micron clone with 486 processor and 32 MB of ram,
also an Adaptec SCSI controller, a VGA board and a 3Com NIC and, of
course, ISA bus. The power supply and the harddisk have been replaced
once. Talk about value for money.
The Access mdb are shared on the NetWare server as are the main laser
printer. The pcs are for the cash lines, and one is for the back office
where it also controls two serial attached heavy duty label printers
printing water resistant labels.

We haven't heard from the client for some years and believed they had
trashed it all and bought something new. But no. Yesterday the phone
rang and we had a little chit-chat. Then:

Client: We have taken up fireworks as a product line and need to create
a new product group for this to be able to print labels, but we can't
get access to the system!
Me: Access? You just open the sales module and create the product group.
Then run the routines to bring it forward to the cash line. Pretty
straight forward.

C: We know. We have written down somewhere how to. But we can't get
access.
M: Well, do you get some kind of error message?

C: Yes. It's something about printer server is down.
M: OK. When do you see this message? When you log in?

C: Log in? 
M: Yes, when you turn the machine on, after a while you login. It is a
box labelled Novell. Did you see that?

C: No. It is always on.
M: OK, then perhaps you have lost the network connection to the server
(comment: Very unlikely, but you seek for causes)
M: Do you have access to the Internet?

C: Oh, you better get my partner. I'm not so good with computers and so.
M: OK.

C: (The partner takes over) Yes we have access. (comment: Clients lie.
Always put cross-checking questions). 
C: But we can't access that.
M: (slightly confused). Oh. But please check the network cables. Is the
machine connected?

C: Yes, the cable runs to the box (comment: switch) besides the server.
M: Do you see some lights flashing at the cable's connections?

C: Yes.
M: And the cash lines are operating?

C: Yes.
M: Fine. Then the server and the network is operating.
M: We better establish a firm point. How about rebooting the machine?
Just press Ctrl-Alt-Del.

C: (pushes keys a couple of times) It doesn't react.
M: It may have locked up completely. Turn it off and then on.

C: (Turns it off, waits, turns it on)
M: (After a little while) Well, what do you see on the screen. A Novell
login?

C: No, it displays the same.
M: The same what?

C: It looks like it has done all the time. Something about printer
server is off.
M: (At this point realising that the monitor is connected to the server,
and now the error message suddenly makes sense)
M: Oh my, you are looking at the wrong monitor. What about the monitor
for the workstation?

C: What monitor?
M: (Now more than slightly confused) Well, you have a monitor for the
workstation, right?

C: There is only this one monitor here.
M: OK. Then someone must have moved the monitor from the workstation to
the server to watch the backup log. 
M: (An old monitor used to be attached to the server, and I thought it
was now gone) 
M: Move it back to the workstation so it can tell us what is happening.

C: (Connects the monitor to the workstation)
M: What do you see?

C: There is a message about post ...
M: (Knowing that this means some kind of hardware change on an IBM) It
has detected some change in hardware. Just press F1 to continue.

C: (Pressing some keys) Nothing happens.
M: Strange. Are you sure the keyboard is connected? Does the Caps and
Num lock work?

C: Yes, I can turn them on and off. That's all.
M: (Now realising the impossible) Please check the keyboard cable. Where
is it connected please?

C: (Fumbling with cables) It runs to the server ...
M: OK. That explains. The keyboard has been moved to the server too.
Please move it to the workstation.

C: The plug doesn't fit!
M: (Suddenly remembering that old keyboards had a DIN plug and not a
PS/2 plug)
M: The keyboard and the monitor are those intended to be used with the
server, I guess. Do they look pretty old?

C: Yes.
M: OK. Both the monitor and the keyboard are those for the server.
M: Where are the keyboard and monitor for the workstation? Has someone
disconnected those?
M: (comment: At this point the partner had left the room)

C: I don't know. There are no more monitors or keyboards in the office
(comment: office is pretty small and easy to glance)
M: But how do you operate the workstation? Don't you use it for printing
the thick labels?

C: Yes we do. Don't know where the monitor has gone. (He yells the
partner with no success).
M: OK. You better talk to your partner and ask where he has taken the
monitor and keyboard.

C: I'll do that.
M: Fine. And when you have attached these, if you still have a problem,
please call again.
C: Yes. Thanks! (hangs up)

The client didn't call back.
Once again, the people working full time at the helpdesks around deserve
the deepest respect. I know for sure I wouldn't have the patience
needed.

/gustav




------------------------------

Message: 20
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:24:41 -0500
From: jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW:   A call to the helpdesk
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <4B226439.20602 at colbyconsulting.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

ROTFL.  It takes a certain type of personality.  Or good drugs.

I didn't say that.  That was a flashback.  Oh noooooo I'm seeing
colors...

;)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> Since we started business in 1993 we've had numerous not-so-straight
calls from clients but none like this.
> 
> First: Client is a bit special - running a medium sized centre for
plants, garden and accessories with three cash lines. The current owners
bought the site about three years ago from the original owners who had
ran it since 2001. Most equipment and software was carried forward from
their previous business established in 1998. That year they bought a
complete setup from us with a Novell NetWare 4.11 server, IBM pcs with
Win98 and an Access based ERP system heavily modified by us to handle
all inventory, heavy duty label printing and POS functions including
barcode scanners and cash receipts.
> All this to tell you that this is proven equipment which has ran
business for 7 days a week excluding Christmas and New Year in 11 years.
Further, the server was bought second hand - it was our own primary
server from 1993 which means - hold your breath - that we are dealing
with a 16 years old Micron clone with 486 processor and 32 MB of ram,
also an Adaptec SCSI controller, a VGA board and a 3Com NIC and, of
course, ISA bus. The power supply and the harddisk have been replaced
once. Talk about value for money.
> The Access mdb are shared on the NetWare server as are the main laser
printer. The pcs are for the cash lines, and one is for the back office
where it also controls two serial attached heavy duty label printers
printing water resistant labels.
> 
> We haven't heard from the client for some years and believed they had
trashed it all and bought something new. But no. Yesterday the phone
rang and we had a little chit-chat. Then:
> 
> Client: We have taken up fireworks as a product line and need to
create a new product group for this to be able to print labels, but we
can't get access to the system!
> Me: Access? You just open the sales module and create the product
group. Then run the routines to bring it forward to the cash line.
Pretty straight forward.
> 
> C: We know. We have written down somewhere how to. But we can't get
access.
> M: Well, do you get some kind of error message?
> 
> C: Yes. It's something about printer server is down.
> M: OK. When do you see this message? When you log in?
> 
> C: Log in? 
> M: Yes, when you turn the machine on, after a while you login. It is a
box labelled Novell. Did you see that?
> 
> C: No. It is always on.
> M: OK, then perhaps you have lost the network connection to the server
(comment: Very unlikely, but you seek for causes)
> M: Do you have access to the Internet?
> 
> C: Oh, you better get my partner. I'm not so good with computers and
so.
> M: OK.
> 
> C: (The partner takes over) Yes we have access. (comment: Clients lie.
Always put cross-checking questions). 
> C: But we can't access that.
> M: (slightly confused). Oh. But please check the network cables. Is
the machine connected?
> 
> C: Yes, the cable runs to the box (comment: switch) besides the
server.
> M: Do you see some lights flashing at the cable's connections?
> 
> C: Yes.
> M: And the cash lines are operating?
> 
> C: Yes.
> M: Fine. Then the server and the network is operating.
> M: We better establish a firm point. How about rebooting the machine?
Just press Ctrl-Alt-Del.
> 
> C: (pushes keys a couple of times) It doesn't react.
> M: It may have locked up completely. Turn it off and then on.
> 
> C: (Turns it off, waits, turns it on)
> M: (After a little while) Well, what do you see on the screen. A
Novell login?
> 
> C: No, it displays the same.
> M: The same what?
> 
> C: It looks like it has done all the time. Something about printer
server is off.
> M: (At this point realising that the monitor is connected to the
server, and now the error message suddenly makes sense)
> M: Oh my, you are looking at the wrong monitor. What about the monitor
for the workstation?
> 
> C: What monitor?
> M: (Now more than slightly confused) Well, you have a monitor for the
workstation, right?
> 
> C: There is only this one monitor here.
> M: OK. Then someone must have moved the monitor from the workstation
to the server to watch the backup log. 
> M: (An old monitor used to be attached to the server, and I thought it
was now gone) 
> M: Move it back to the workstation so it can tell us what is
happening.
> 
> C: (Connects the monitor to the workstation)
> M: What do you see?
> 
> C: There is a message about post ...
> M: (Knowing that this means some kind of hardware change on an IBM) It
has detected some change in hardware. Just press F1 to continue.
> 
> C: (Pressing some keys) Nothing happens.
> M: Strange. Are you sure the keyboard is connected? Does the Caps and
Num lock work?
> 
> C: Yes, I can turn them on and off. That's all.
> M: (Now realising the impossible) Please check the keyboard cable.
Where is it connected please?
> 
> C: (Fumbling with cables) It runs to the server ...
> M: OK. That explains. The keyboard has been moved to the server too.
Please move it to the workstation.
> 
> C: The plug doesn't fit!
> M: (Suddenly remembering that old keyboards had a DIN plug and not a
PS/2 plug)
> M: The keyboard and the monitor are those intended to be used with the
server, I guess. Do they look pretty old?
> 
> C: Yes.
> M: OK. Both the monitor and the keyboard are those for the server.
> M: Where are the keyboard and monitor for the workstation? Has someone
disconnected those?
> M: (comment: At this point the partner had left the room)
> 
> C: I don't know. There are no more monitors or keyboards in the office
(comment: office is pretty small and easy to glance)
> M: But how do you operate the workstation? Don't you use it for
printing the thick labels?
> 
> C: Yes we do. Don't know where the monitor has gone. (He yells the
partner with no success).
> M: OK. You better talk to your partner and ask where he has taken the
monitor and keyboard.
> 
> C: I'll do that.
> M: Fine. And when you have attached these, if you still have a
problem, please call again.
> C: Yes. Thanks! (hangs up)
> 
> The client didn't call back.
> Once again, the people working full time at the helpdesks around
deserve the deepest respect. I know for sure I wouldn't have the
patience needed.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 


------------------------------

Message: 21
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:50:04 -0500
From: "Reuben Cummings" <accessd at gfconsultants.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <57BAA4FB78414D96AAA6C5D59FC80B03 at reubennx9500>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Nope.  Just did it again and you're right.  Yours works fine.
I must have misplaced something when I was trying it Wednesday night.
Sorry.

Thanks, Gustav.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gustav Brock
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:45 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> 
> 
> Hi Reuben
> 
> I did some tests with no errors and returning the correct 
> data type. Are you sure about this?
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> >>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 10-12-2009 12:57 >>>
> Thanks.  That appears to work.  However, I think your 
> paranthesis are off.
> For anyone wanting this for future use I had to change it to...
> 
> >   CurResult = CCur((CurAmount * CCur(100 * SngPercentage))/ 100)
> 
> Only added two paranthesis (to completely inclose the 
> multiplication part),
> but it makes sure the math gets done before it gets divided by 100.
> 
> Thanks for the help.
> 
> Reuben Cummings
> GFC, LLC
> 812.523.1017
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> > Gustav Brock
> > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:18 AM
> > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Reuben
> > 
> > There is your explanation: cur * sng returns a double.
> > 
> > What you could do is to keep storing the percentage as a 
> > single. When using it for calculation, do:
> > 
> >   CurResult = CCur(CurAmount * CCur(100 * SngPercentage) / 100)
> > 
> > This will calculate using your six decimals and (with CCur) 
> > round the result to four decimals.
> > 
> > /gustav
> > 
> > 
> > >>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 10-12-2009 03:16 >>>
> > Stuart and Charlotte, I'll play with the single/double issue.
> > 
> > The dollar amounts are all currency.
> > 
> > The percentage (.25xxx) is a single.  Not sure why as this is 
> > the first time
> > I've ever used a single.
> > All these years and I've never used single and the first time 
> > I do it BITES
> > me.
> > I wanted to use currency for the percentage, but the state 
> > defines these
> > rates to 6 decimals.
> > 
> > Reuben Cummings
> > GFC, LLC
> > 812.523.1017
> 
> 
> 
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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:13:15 -0500
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at gmail.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Another article you might want to take part in
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <332033CB1E684498ADD7617B6AC33B2A at SusanOne>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

I'm writing about the Access features/tips... whatever that we forget 
about -- they work great, but we forget to use them, usually because we 
don't use them all the time.

If you have something you want to add, I'll give you credit and a link
in 
the article.

Susan H. 



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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Dec 11 15:31:10 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 07:31:10 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Printing to a network port
In-Reply-To: <268857.46319.qm@web50407.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <000001ca7a5f$7b849a10$728dce30$@com>,
	<268857.46319.qm@web50407.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B22BA1E.14284.8AEF3CD@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Shell "Ping 192.168.1.1"   
is about the simplest way I know to send data directly to a network address from Access.
<g>

Oh, you meant useful data to a port which can be used at the other end?  You will need to 
do some Winsock programming.

If you are happy to use third party components, the "free for personal use" OSWINSCK is 
easy to use.  Instructions for use with Access including sample code are at
http://www.ostrosoft.com/oswinsck/oswinsck_vba.asp

-- 
Stuart

On 11 Dec 2009 at 11:54, Dale Kalsow wrote:

> 
> Does anyone have any good examples how of to send data directly to a
> network ip address?? It would be a local ip address (if that makes any
> difference). ? thanks! ? Dale 
> 
> 




From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Fri Dec 11 16:05:29 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:05:29 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Printing to a network port
In-Reply-To: <4B22BA1E.14284.8AEF3CD@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <000001ca7a5f$7b849a10$728dce30$@com>,
	<268857.46319.qm@web50407.mail.re2.yahoo.com>,
	<4B22BA1E.14284.8AEF3CD@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <4B22C229.4953.8CE5F7B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Another way - write your own little DLL or shell application in PowerBasic - it's very easy and 
now it's cheap to!!!

PowerBasic have just put out a great deal.  PB/WIn is currently Version 9.  They are selling 
Version 8 under the name "Classic PowerBasic"  for USD49.

Go to http://www.powerbasic.com/

As an example, here's the total code needed to send a string of data and get a response 
from one of my programs.

        TCP OPEN PORT nPort AT sServer AS nSocket TIMEOUT 5000
        IF ERR THEN
            sPacket =  "Cannot connect to Listener Server at " & sServer & " on Port " _
                              & STR$(nPort)& " - Err: " & STR$(ERR)
        ELSE
            TCP PRINT nSocket, strMessage;
            ERRCLEAR
            DO
              TCP RECV nSocket, 1024, sBuffer
               sPacket = sPacket + sBuffer
            LOOP UNTIL   sBuffer = "" OR ISTRUE EOF(nSocket) OR ISTRUE ERR
            IF sBuffer = "" OR ERR THEN 
               sPacket = "No reply from the server! -" & STR$(ERR)
            END IF
        END IF
        TCP CLOSE nSocket


Adding a few more lines  would make this the total source for a  compilable single function 
DLL. ( which would end up as a DLL about 5KB in size)
 
The DLL would be a "proper" DLL, so no need to register it - just DECLARE the function in 
your VBA and call it like any other function.

-- 
Stuart
 

On 12 Dec 2009 at 7:31, Stuart McLachlan wrote:

> Shell "Ping 192.168.1.1"   
> is about the simplest way I know to send data directly to a network address from Access.
> <g>
> 
> Oh, you meant useful data to a port which can be used at the other end?  You will need to 
> do some Winsock programming.
> 
> If you are happy to use third party components, the "free for personal use" OSWINSCK is 
> easy to use.  Instructions for use with Access including sample code are at
> http://www.ostrosoft.com/oswinsck/oswinsck_vba.asp
> 
> -- 
> Stuart
> 
> On 11 Dec 2009 at 11:54, Dale Kalsow wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Does anyone have any good examples how of to send data directly to a
> > network ip address?? It would be a local ip address (if that makes any
> > difference). ? thanks! ? Dale 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> 





From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Fri Dec 11 16:58:56 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:58:56 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Printing to a network port
In-Reply-To: <4B22C229.4953.8CE5F7B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <000001ca7a5f$7b849a10$728dce30$@com>,
	<268857.46319.qm@web50407.mail.re2.yahoo.com>,
	<4B22BA1E.14284.8AEF3CD@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<4B22C229.4953.8CE5F7B@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <4B22CEB0.8060202@colbyconsulting.com>

Or go with a REAL programming language like C#.

<ducks and runs>

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Stuart McLachlan wrote:
> Another way - write your own little DLL or shell application in PowerBasic - it's very easy and 
> now it's cheap to!!!
> 
> PowerBasic have just put out a great deal.  PB/WIn is currently Version 9.  They are selling 
> Version 8 under the name "Classic PowerBasic"  for USD49.
> 
> Go to http://www.powerbasic.com/
> 
> As an example, here's the total code needed to send a string of data and get a response 
> from one of my programs.
> 
>         TCP OPEN PORT nPort AT sServer AS nSocket TIMEOUT 5000
>         IF ERR THEN
>             sPacket =  "Cannot connect to Listener Server at " & sServer & " on Port " _
>                               & STR$(nPort)& " - Err: " & STR$(ERR)
>         ELSE
>             TCP PRINT nSocket, strMessage;
>             ERRCLEAR
>             DO
>               TCP RECV nSocket, 1024, sBuffer
>                sPacket = sPacket + sBuffer
>             LOOP UNTIL   sBuffer = "" OR ISTRUE EOF(nSocket) OR ISTRUE ERR
>             IF sBuffer = "" OR ERR THEN 
>                sPacket = "No reply from the server! -" & STR$(ERR)
>             END IF
>         END IF
>         TCP CLOSE nSocket
> 
> 
> Adding a few more lines  would make this the total source for a  compilable single function 
> DLL. ( which would end up as a DLL about 5KB in size)
>  
> The DLL would be a "proper" DLL, so no need to register it - just DECLARE the function in 
> your VBA and call it like any other function.
> 


From robert at servicexp.com  Fri Dec 11 17:25:52 2009
From: robert at servicexp.com (Robert)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:25:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007 Password Cracker
In-Reply-To: <4b22aa8f.1067f10a.739e.ffffa908@mx.google.com>
References: <1cc47607$1e71f0ce$1bc24878$@com>	<6DC4725FDCDD72428D6114F1B6CC6E8101688CB7@EXUAU020HWT110.oceania.corp.anz.com>	<4b21f706.0e67f10a.2365.6e0a@mx.google.com>	<000001ca7a5f$7b849a10$728dce30$@com>
	<4b22aa8f.1067f10a.739e.ffffa908@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <001a01ca7ab9$48d55780$da800680$@com>

Thank you VERY much for that great explanation. Indeed looks very nice...!!

WBR
Robert


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 3:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2007 Password Cracker

Hi Rob,
1. download and install Truecrypt (free)
2. decide on whether you want a container (file) or a complete drive (yep,
the whole drive if you want).
3. decide if you want visible to others  or not.
4. decide on encryption type (it explains them)
5. decide on the size of container.
6. decide on a password.  The  longer the better.  You cannot later  change
it unless you have the purchased program.
7. run  the encryption  program.
8. when finished, run truecrypt again and "mount" it to a drive  letter  of
your choice (it will show you available ones).
9. it will then look just like any  other  drives. You can create /delete
folders, files etc.  absolutely no  difference.
10. copy your mdb in the  mounted  drive and use it  as  normal.
11. when finished,  dismount the drive and it will then  appear as a garbage
file to the outside  world.
12. The daily use of  it is  so simple and easy.
13. I have been using it for years.

Couple of points:
1. If you are worrying about somebody copying the encrypted  file  and then
working on it,  make it a hugh size.  I have,  for  example, a personal  mdb
of a few hundred Mbytes sitting inside a multi-Gbyte encrypted file.  Try to
suck the sense  out of that!!
2. You can  also run  it auto from USB memory sticks etc.
3. The only gotcha I have come across is to beware of upgrading the
truecrypt program without first mounting and moving the contents of the
previous  version,  then upgrade  and copy the "stuff" back into the new
version.  The  newer version will not  "see" the older version (it may do on
a paid version though).
4. If I lose my memory stick, I don't have to worry about somebody accessing
the info on there.

Hth

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: 11 December 2009 12:43
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2007 Password Cracker

Max, 
  Interesting.. How exactly does this work?  Are there any performance hits
when accessing the encrypted db from a FE?

WBR
Robert



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 2:38 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2007 Password Cracker

Hi Darry,

This shows the ease at which passwords can be broken and exactly why I store
my mdbs etc in a TrueCrypt (TC) container.

To get to the mdb you have to first crack the TC code and not only is that
near-impossible in a normal  life span using the fastest computers known to
mankind, but its very existence can be hidden.  And FREE.

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Collins, Darryl
Sent: 11 December 2009 04:28
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access 2007 Password Cracker



I own and use this software.  Never had any problem, does the job fast
and well so the initial fee has been well worth it. I always think these
things will be a 'once off' but I have used it many times over the years
for all sorts of things.

http://www.lostpassword.com/


Here is the MS Access specific page
http://www.lostpassword.com/access.htm
 
Anyway... See if that going to suit you.

Cheers
Darryl.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Reuben
Cummings
Sent: Friday, 11 December 2009 2:15 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007 Password Cracker

I need the password for some A2007 db's (a new client wants me to pull
data out of a competitor's software that I am replacing).

Any suggestions for how to get the password?

I found a lot of options, but would appreciate some input on what you
all are using.  And free would be cool as this is hopefully a one time
deal.

Reuben Cummings
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Dec 12 08:18:30 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:18:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Another article you might want to take part in
References: <332033CB1E684498ADD7617B6AC33B2A@SusanOne>	<76EFB1B67FCD434AB5FCF225C1BE760B@danwaters><7970904760DF4205B7ED997051D88EB1@SusanOne>
	<4b22aa92.1067f10a.739e.ffffa90a@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <5AFB8B4C73034F279EE1B5E1544281D7@SusanOne>

This article isn't just tips in general -- the current article is "things I 
forget I can do in Access" -- I have several at this point and my list 
includes moving columns in the Datasheet window, copying data from Excel 
into a table (you can do that and sometimes it works just fine), disabling 
control labels before you insert them instead of deleting them after the 
fact...

So that gives you an idea -- they can be more complex too.

Susan H.


> My tip to secure a database is to store it inside a Truecrypt 
> containerfile.



From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Sat Dec 12 10:37:34 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:37:34 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Another article you might want to take part in
In-Reply-To: <5AFB8B4C73034F279EE1B5E1544281D7@SusanOne>
References: <332033CB1E684498ADD7617B6AC33B2A@SusanOne>	<76EFB1B67FCD434AB5FCF225C1BE760B@danwaters><7970904760DF4205B7ED997051D88EB1@SusanOne>	<4b22aa92.1067f10a.739e.ffffa90a@mx.google.com>
	<5AFB8B4C73034F279EE1B5E1544281D7@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <4b23c6dd.0d67f10a.34c6.ffffd2e1@mx.google.com>

Hmm, at the risk of  sounding  stupid, if I have forgotten I can do
something, how do I know?

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: 12 December 2009 14:19
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Another article you might want to take part in

This article isn't just tips in general -- the current article is "things I 
forget I can do in Access" -- I have several at this point and my list 
includes moving columns in the Datasheet window, copying data from Excel 
into a table (you can do that and sometimes it works just fine), disabling 
control labels before you insert them instead of deleting them after the 
fact...

So that gives you an idea -- they can be more complex too.

Susan H.


> My tip to secure a database is to store it inside a Truecrypt 
> containerfile.

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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sat Dec 12 11:34:38 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:34:38 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Another article you might want to take part in
In-Reply-To: <4b23c6dd.0d67f10a.34c6.ffffd2e1@mx.google.com>
References: <332033CB1E684498ADD7617B6AC33B2A@SusanOne>	<76EFB1B67FCD434AB5FCF225C1BE760B@danwaters><7970904760DF4205B7ED997051D88EB1@SusanOne>	<4b22aa92.1067f10a.739e.ffffa90a@mx.google.com>	<5AFB8B4C73034F279EE1B5E1544281D7@SusanOne>
	<4b23c6dd.0d67f10a.34c6.ffffd2e1@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <4B23D42E.1090604@colbyconsulting.com>

mAX,

 > Hmm, at the risk of  sounding  stupid

There is no risk of that, as we just write off everything you say anyway.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Max Wanadoo wrote:
> Hmm, at the risk of  sounding  stupid, if I have forgotten I can do
> something, how do I know?
> 
> Max
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
> Sent: 12 December 2009 14:19
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Another article you might want to take part in
> 
> This article isn't just tips in general -- the current article is "things I 
> forget I can do in Access" -- I have several at this point and my list 
> includes moving columns in the Datasheet window, copying data from Excel 
> into a table (you can do that and sometimes it works just fine), disabling 
> control labels before you insert them instead of deleting them after the 
> fact...
> 
> So that gives you an idea -- they can be more complex too.
> 
> Susan H.
> 
> 
>> My tip to secure a database is to store it inside a Truecrypt 
>> containerfile.
> 


From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Sat Dec 12 11:59:44 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:59:44 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Another article you might want to take part in
In-Reply-To: <4B23D42E.1090604@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <332033CB1E684498ADD7617B6AC33B2A@SusanOne>	<76EFB1B67FCD434AB5FCF225C1BE760B@danwaters><7970904760DF4205B7ED997051D88EB1@SusanOne>	<4b22aa92.1067f10a.739e.ffffa90a@mx.google.com>	<5AFB8B4C73034F279EE1B5E1544281D7@SusanOne>	<4b23c6dd.0d67f10a.34c6.ffffd2e1@mx.google.com>
	<4B23D42E.1090604@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <4b23da27.0d67f10a.34c6.ffffd623@mx.google.com>

Thanks Mate,

That comment is a sure sign you love me really....LOL

Max
Ps. Hard love!!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: 12 December 2009 17:35
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Another article you might want to take part in

mAX,

 > Hmm, at the risk of  sounding  stupid

There is no risk of that, as we just write off everything you say anyway.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Max Wanadoo wrote:
> Hmm, at the risk of  sounding  stupid, if I have forgotten I can do
> something, how do I know?
> 
> Max
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
> Sent: 12 December 2009 14:19
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Another article you might want to take part in
> 
> This article isn't just tips in general -- the current article is "things
I 
> forget I can do in Access" -- I have several at this point and my list 
> includes moving columns in the Datasheet window, copying data from Excel 
> into a table (you can do that and sometimes it works just fine), disabling

> control labels before you insert them instead of deleting them after the 
> fact...
> 
> So that gives you an idea -- they can be more complex too.
> 
> Susan H.
> 
> 
>> My tip to secure a database is to store it inside a Truecrypt 
>> containerfile.
> 
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Dec 12 15:35:58 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:35:58 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Another article you might want to take part in
References: <332033CB1E684498ADD7617B6AC33B2A@SusanOne>	<76EFB1B67FCD434AB5FCF225C1BE760B@danwaters><7970904760DF4205B7ED997051D88EB1@SusanOne>	<4b22aa92.1067f10a.739e.ffffa90a@mx.google.com><5AFB8B4C73034F279EE1B5E1544281D7@SusanOne>
	<4b23c6dd.0d67f10a.34c6.ffffd2e1@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <359E931871C9449581F3840B81D5DF04@SusanOne>

Smart butt... don't you ever start something and then think... "Oh wait... I 
could've done...." ?????

I do it all the time! ;)

Susan H.


> Hmm, at the risk of  sounding  stupid, if I have forgotten I can do
> something, how do I know?



From ssharkins at gmail.com  Sat Dec 12 15:37:31 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:37:31 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A call to the helpdesk
References: <mailman.28418.1260547999.8732.accessd@databaseadvisors.com>
	<66D9CA142291D741B515207C09AA3BC3147D00@MAIL2.FLDOE.INT>
Message-ID: <6110D88C94604EFDBB1ADA8DE00E643C@SusanOne>

You promised you'd never tell on me... ;) 

Susan H. 

I found the surge protector was in fact plugged
> in--to itself.  I discretely plugged it into the wall and fiddled a bit
> with the plugs to make a show of trying to figure it out.  Then I turned
> on the computer and the monitor and voila! It 


From Darryl.Collins at anz.com  Sun Dec 13 16:59:23 2009
From: Darryl.Collins at anz.com (Collins, Darryl)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:59:23 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A call to the helpdesk
In-Reply-To: <66D9CA142291D741B515207C09AA3BC3147D00@MAIL2.FLDOE.INT>
Message-ID: <6DC4725FDCDD72428D6114F1B6CC6E8101688CBF@EXUAU020HWT110.oceania.corp.anz.com>



"I found the surge protector was in fact plugged in--to itself "

I have seen this a few times with powerboards as well...  Nearly did it
myself once ;)

Thanks for sharing these stories, I can't speak for the list, but I
always find them educational and entertaining.

Cheers
Darryl.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Klos, Susan
Sent: Saturday, 12 December 2009 8:08 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] A call to the helpdesk

I am sure many of us have similar stories.  The one that always comes to
my mind was a call from a distraught user while I was on the help desk.

She insisted that there was nothing on her screen when she started her
omputer.

Me: Is the screen (monitor) turned on?
U:  I don't know.
Me: Is there a small light on anywhere?
U: No.
Me: Is the monitor plugged in?
U:  Yes, it is plugged into that thingy on the floor that has all the
plugs in it.  (I figured she was talking about the surge protector)
Me:  OK.  Is the "thingy with the plugs in it" plugged in?
U: Yes.
At this point I was a bit confused so I went to the user's office to
track down the problem.  I found the surge protector was in fact plugged
in--to itself.  I discretely plugged it into the wall and fiddled a bit
with the plugs to make a show of trying to figure it out.  Then I turned
on the computer and the monitor and voila! It worked.  I suggested to
her that if things don't start she be sure the plugs are securely
plugged into the surge protector and that the surge protector is
securely plugged intot he wall.

Susan Klos
Senior Database Analyst
Florida Department of Education
Evaluation and Reporting Office
Phone: 850.245.0708
Fax: 850.245.0710
email: susan.klos at fldoe.org

-----Original Message-----


Message: 19
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:29:00 +0100
From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
Subject: [AccessD] A call to the helpdesk
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <sb226552.078 at cactus.dk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

Hi all

Since we started business in 1993 we've had numerous not-so-straight
calls from clients but none like this.

First: Client is a bit special - running a medium sized centre for
plants, garden and accessories with three cash lines. The current owners
bought the site about three years ago from the original owners who had
ran it since 2001. Most equipment and software was carried forward from
their previous business established in 1998. That year they bought a
complete setup from us with a Novell NetWare 4.11 server, IBM pcs with
Win98 and an Access based ERP system heavily modified by us to handle
all inventory, heavy duty label printing and POS functions including
barcode scanners and cash receipts.
All this to tell you that this is proven equipment which has ran
business for 7 days a week excluding Christmas and New Year in 11 years.
Further, the server was bought second hand - it was our own primary
server from 1993 which means - hold your breath - that we are dealing
with a 16 years old Micron clone with 486 processor and 32 MB of ram,
also an Adaptec SCSI controller, a VGA board and a 3Com NIC and, of
course, ISA bus. The power supply and the harddisk have been replaced
once. Talk about value for money.
The Access mdb are shared on the NetWare server as are the main laser
printer. The pcs are for the cash lines, and one is for the back office
where it also controls two serial attached heavy duty label printers
printing water resistant labels.

We haven't heard from the client for some years and believed they had
trashed it all and bought something new. But no. Yesterday the phone
rang and we had a little chit-chat. Then:

Client: We have taken up fireworks as a product line and need to create
a new product group for this to be able to print labels, but we can't
get access to the system!
Me: Access? You just open the sales module and create the product group.
Then run the routines to bring it forward to the cash line. Pretty
straight forward.

C: We know. We have written down somewhere how to. But we can't get
access.
M: Well, do you get some kind of error message?

C: Yes. It's something about printer server is down.
M: OK. When do you see this message? When you log in?

C: Log in? 
M: Yes, when you turn the machine on, after a while you login. It is a
box labelled Novell. Did you see that?

C: No. It is always on.
M: OK, then perhaps you have lost the network connection to the server
(comment: Very unlikely, but you seek for causes)
M: Do you have access to the Internet?

C: Oh, you better get my partner. I'm not so good with computers and so.
M: OK.

C: (The partner takes over) Yes we have access. (comment: Clients lie.
Always put cross-checking questions). 
C: But we can't access that.
M: (slightly confused). Oh. But please check the network cables. Is the
machine connected?

C: Yes, the cable runs to the box (comment: switch) besides the server.
M: Do you see some lights flashing at the cable's connections?

C: Yes.
M: And the cash lines are operating?

C: Yes.
M: Fine. Then the server and the network is operating.
M: We better establish a firm point. How about rebooting the machine?
Just press Ctrl-Alt-Del.

C: (pushes keys a couple of times) It doesn't react.
M: It may have locked up completely. Turn it off and then on.

C: (Turns it off, waits, turns it on)
M: (After a little while) Well, what do you see on the screen. A Novell
login?

C: No, it displays the same.
M: The same what?

C: It looks like it has done all the time. Something about printer
server is off.
M: (At this point realising that the monitor is connected to the server,
and now the error message suddenly makes sense)
M: Oh my, you are looking at the wrong monitor. What about the monitor
for the workstation?

C: What monitor?
M: (Now more than slightly confused) Well, you have a monitor for the
workstation, right?

C: There is only this one monitor here.
M: OK. Then someone must have moved the monitor from the workstation to
the server to watch the backup log. 
M: (An old monitor used to be attached to the server, and I thought it
was now gone)
M: Move it back to the workstation so it can tell us what is happening.

C: (Connects the monitor to the workstation)
M: What do you see?

C: There is a message about post ...
M: (Knowing that this means some kind of hardware change on an IBM) It
has detected some change in hardware. Just press F1 to continue.

C: (Pressing some keys) Nothing happens.
M: Strange. Are you sure the keyboard is connected? Does the Caps and
Num lock work?

C: Yes, I can turn them on and off. That's all.
M: (Now realising the impossible) Please check the keyboard cable. Where
is it connected please?

C: (Fumbling with cables) It runs to the server ...
M: OK. That explains. The keyboard has been moved to the server too.
Please move it to the workstation.

C: The plug doesn't fit!
M: (Suddenly remembering that old keyboards had a DIN plug and not a
PS/2 plug)
M: The keyboard and the monitor are those intended to be used with the
server, I guess. Do they look pretty old?

C: Yes.
M: OK. Both the monitor and the keyboard are those for the server.
M: Where are the keyboard and monitor for the workstation? Has someone
disconnected those?
M: (comment: At this point the partner had left the room)

C: I don't know. There are no more monitors or keyboards in the office
(comment: office is pretty small and easy to glance)
M: But how do you operate the workstation? Don't you use it for printing
the thick labels?

C: Yes we do. Don't know where the monitor has gone. (He yells the
partner with no success).
M: OK. You better talk to your partner and ask where he has taken the
monitor and keyboard.

C: I'll do that.
M: Fine. And when you have attached these, if you still have a problem,
please call again.
C: Yes. Thanks! (hangs up)

The client didn't call back.
Once again, the people working full time at the helpdesks around deserve
the deepest respect. I know for sure I wouldn't have the patience
needed.

/gustav




------------------------------

Message: 20
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:24:41 -0500
From: jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW:   A call to the helpdesk
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <4B226439.20602 at colbyconsulting.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

ROTFL.  It takes a certain type of personality.  Or good drugs.

I didn't say that.  That was a flashback.  Oh noooooo I'm seeing
colors...

;)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> Since we started business in 1993 we've had numerous not-so-straight
calls from clients but none like this.
> 
> First: Client is a bit special - running a medium sized centre for
plants, garden and accessories with three cash lines. The current owners
bought the site about three years ago from the original owners who had
ran it since 2001. Most equipment and software was carried forward from
their previous business established in 1998. That year they bought a
complete setup from us with a Novell NetWare 4.11 server, IBM pcs with
Win98 and an Access based ERP system heavily modified by us to handle
all inventory, heavy duty label printing and POS functions including
barcode scanners and cash receipts.
> All this to tell you that this is proven equipment which has ran
business for 7 days a week excluding Christmas and New Year in 11 years.
Further, the server was bought second hand - it was our own primary
server from 1993 which means - hold your breath - that we are dealing
with a 16 years old Micron clone with 486 processor and 32 MB of ram,
also an Adaptec SCSI controller, a VGA board and a 3Com NIC and, of
course, ISA bus. The power supply and the harddisk have been replaced
once. Talk about value for money.
> The Access mdb are shared on the NetWare server as are the main laser
printer. The pcs are for the cash lines, and one is for the back office
where it also controls two serial attached heavy duty label printers
printing water resistant labels.
> 
> We haven't heard from the client for some years and believed they had
trashed it all and bought something new. But no. Yesterday the phone
rang and we had a little chit-chat. Then:
> 
> Client: We have taken up fireworks as a product line and need to
create a new product group for this to be able to print labels, but we
can't get access to the system!
> Me: Access? You just open the sales module and create the product
group. Then run the routines to bring it forward to the cash line.
Pretty straight forward.
> 
> C: We know. We have written down somewhere how to. But we can't get
access.
> M: Well, do you get some kind of error message?
> 
> C: Yes. It's something about printer server is down.
> M: OK. When do you see this message? When you log in?
> 
> C: Log in? 
> M: Yes, when you turn the machine on, after a while you login. It is a
box labelled Novell. Did you see that?
> 
> C: No. It is always on.
> M: OK, then perhaps you have lost the network connection to the server
(comment: Very unlikely, but you seek for causes)
> M: Do you have access to the Internet?
> 
> C: Oh, you better get my partner. I'm not so good with computers and
so.
> M: OK.
> 
> C: (The partner takes over) Yes we have access. (comment: Clients lie.
Always put cross-checking questions). 
> C: But we can't access that.
> M: (slightly confused). Oh. But please check the network cables. Is
the machine connected?
> 
> C: Yes, the cable runs to the box (comment: switch) besides the
server.
> M: Do you see some lights flashing at the cable's connections?
> 
> C: Yes.
> M: And the cash lines are operating?
> 
> C: Yes.
> M: Fine. Then the server and the network is operating.
> M: We better establish a firm point. How about rebooting the machine?
Just press Ctrl-Alt-Del.
> 
> C: (pushes keys a couple of times) It doesn't react.
> M: It may have locked up completely. Turn it off and then on.
> 
> C: (Turns it off, waits, turns it on)
> M: (After a little while) Well, what do you see on the screen. A
Novell login?
> 
> C: No, it displays the same.
> M: The same what?
> 
> C: It looks like it has done all the time. Something about printer
server is off.
> M: (At this point realising that the monitor is connected to the
server, and now the error message suddenly makes sense)
> M: Oh my, you are looking at the wrong monitor. What about the monitor
for the workstation?
> 
> C: What monitor?
> M: (Now more than slightly confused) Well, you have a monitor for the
workstation, right?
> 
> C: There is only this one monitor here.
> M: OK. Then someone must have moved the monitor from the workstation
to the server to watch the backup log. 
> M: (An old monitor used to be attached to the server, and I thought it
was now gone) 
> M: Move it back to the workstation so it can tell us what is
happening.
> 
> C: (Connects the monitor to the workstation)
> M: What do you see?
> 
> C: There is a message about post ...
> M: (Knowing that this means some kind of hardware change on an IBM) It
has detected some change in hardware. Just press F1 to continue.
> 
> C: (Pressing some keys) Nothing happens.
> M: Strange. Are you sure the keyboard is connected? Does the Caps and
Num lock work?
> 
> C: Yes, I can turn them on and off. That's all.
> M: (Now realising the impossible) Please check the keyboard cable.
Where is it connected please?
> 
> C: (Fumbling with cables) It runs to the server ...
> M: OK. That explains. The keyboard has been moved to the server too.
Please move it to the workstation.
> 
> C: The plug doesn't fit!
> M: (Suddenly remembering that old keyboards had a DIN plug and not a
PS/2 plug)
> M: The keyboard and the monitor are those intended to be used with the
server, I guess. Do they look pretty old?
> 
> C: Yes.
> M: OK. Both the monitor and the keyboard are those for the server.
> M: Where are the keyboard and monitor for the workstation? Has someone
disconnected those?
> M: (comment: At this point the partner had left the room)
> 
> C: I don't know. There are no more monitors or keyboards in the office
(comment: office is pretty small and easy to glance)
> M: But how do you operate the workstation? Don't you use it for
printing the thick labels?
> 
> C: Yes we do. Don't know where the monitor has gone. (He yells the
partner with no success).
> M: OK. You better talk to your partner and ask where he has taken the
monitor and keyboard.
> 
> C: I'll do that.
> M: Fine. And when you have attached these, if you still have a
problem, please call again.
> C: Yes. Thanks! (hangs up)
> 
> The client didn't call back.
> Once again, the people working full time at the helpdesks around
deserve the deepest respect. I know for sure I wouldn't have the
patience needed.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 


------------------------------

Message: 21
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:50:04 -0500
From: "Reuben Cummings" <accessd at gfconsultants.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
	<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <57BAA4FB78414D96AAA6C5D59FC80B03 at reubennx9500>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Nope.  Just did it again and you're right.  Yours works fine.
I must have misplaced something when I was trying it Wednesday night.
Sorry.

Thanks, Gustav.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav 
> Brock
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:45 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> 
> 
> Hi Reuben
> 
> I did some tests with no errors and returning the correct data type. 
> Are you sure about this?
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
> >>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 10-12-2009 12:57 >>>
> Thanks.  That appears to work.  However, I think your paranthesis are 
> off.
> For anyone wanting this for future use I had to change it to...
> 
> >   CurResult = CCur((CurAmount * CCur(100 * SngPercentage))/ 100)
> 
> Only added two paranthesis (to completely inclose the multiplication 
> part), but it makes sure the math gets done before it gets divided by 
> 100.
> 
> Thanks for the help.
> 
> Reuben Cummings
> GFC, LLC
> 812.523.1017
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav 
> > Brock
> > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:18 AM
> > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Reuben
> > 
> > There is your explanation: cur * sng returns a double.
> > 
> > What you could do is to keep storing the percentage as a single. 
> > When using it for calculation, do:
> > 
> >   CurResult = CCur(CurAmount * CCur(100 * SngPercentage) / 100)
> > 
> > This will calculate using your six decimals and (with CCur) round 
> > the result to four decimals.
> > 
> > /gustav
> > 
> > 
> > >>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 10-12-2009 03:16 >>>
> > Stuart and Charlotte, I'll play with the single/double issue.
> > 
> > The dollar amounts are all currency.
> > 
> > The percentage (.25xxx) is a single.  Not sure why as this is the 
> > first time I've ever used a single.
> > All these years and I've never used single and the first time I do 
> > it BITES me.
> > I wanted to use currency for the percentage, but the state defines 
> > these rates to 6 decimals.
> > 
> > Reuben Cummings
> > GFC, LLC
> > 812.523.1017
> 
> 
> 
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------------------------------

Message: 22
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:13:15 -0500
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at gmail.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Another article you might want to take part in
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <332033CB1E684498ADD7617B6AC33B2A at SusanOne>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

I'm writing about the Access features/tips... whatever that we forget 
about -- they work great, but we forget to use them, usually because we 
don't use them all the time.

If you have something you want to add, I'll give you credit and a link
in 
the article.

Susan H. 



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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Sun Dec 13 21:45:18 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 22:45:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Do you wanna learn c#?
Message-ID: <4B25B4CE.9010105@colbyconsulting.com>

Have I got the book for you.

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft%C2%AE-XNA%C2%AE-Game-Studio-3-0/dp/0735626588/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1260761698&sr=1-2

I bought this book because I found the XNA studio and wanted to learn all about how it works.  But 
this book is about teaching programming, and from that C#.  For anyone who knows vba or VB.net it 
will start off easy, but for anyone who doesn't program at all it also starts off easy.  This might 
be the best book for learning to program (in general) I have run into.  Plus it is fun.

You need Visual Studio (express is fine) and you need the XNA studio (it is also free).  An XBox 360 
game controller will be required pretty quickly.  I bought the cheapest controller for $15 from 
Wally world.

Then start reading (and writing).  I am on chapter 5 now (in about three days) and working on 
through it.

I swear you will learn C#, have fun while you are at it, AND learn how the XNA game studio framework 
works which is also an awesome tool.

Really folks, this is the real deal, if you have always said "I should..." do this one.  Or get your 
teenager involved in it.

I bought the book new from Amazon for about $20, plus the controller.  Everything else is free. 
That is a great deal folks!

-- 
John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Dec 14 03:33:26 2009
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:33:26 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] text between ( )
References: <001f01ca78ea$939c60e0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
	<8786a4c00912090958t2d299e17seb1c4809422bd660@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000e01ca7ca0$7cee6410$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello David,

the query, almost does what i want.

SELECT Concl, 
Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2)
AS Expr1
FROM YourTable
WHERE (((Concl) Like "*(*)*"));

- Only when there are more values with ( ) it only returns the first value
- The value that is returned ( ) also gives part of the rest of the concl 
text after the ) but sometimes it is cut off after a certain length and 
sometimes not. I Tried to variabel the "compare argument", but no result.

for example (what the expression returns)

Concl                                            expr1
aaa (g2Ta)bbbbcccc                      g2Ta)bbbbc
aaaaa(g2Ta)cccccccdddddd          g2Ta)ccccccccdddd

i don't see the logic of the lengt of the text part after the ) in expr1

How can i solve this?

Pedro







----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David McAfee" <davidmcafee at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )


If this looks good:
SELECT Concl, 
Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2)
AS Expr1
FROM YourTable
WHERE (((Concl) Like "*(*)*"));

you can do it like this:
UPDATE YourTable SET YourTable.fldSelection =
Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2)
WHERE (((YourTable.Concl) Like "*(*)*"));



On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl> wrote:
> Dear Group,
>
> is it possible to filter out text between ( ) in a field [Concl] and place 
> only the text between ( ) in a new field [fldSelection], with a query.
>
> Thanks
>
> Pedro
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From drawbridgej at sympatico.ca  Mon Dec 14 08:37:29 2009
From: drawbridgej at sympatico.ca (Jack and Pat)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:37:29 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] text between ( )
In-Reply-To: <000e01ca7ca0$7cee6410$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
References: <001f01ca78ea$939c60e0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9><8786a4c00912090958t2d299e17seb1c4809422bd660@mail.gmail.com>
	<000e01ca7ca0$7cee6410$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <95D07C7764CC47D1BA5FB0A40A8AAD92@AMDXP>

Pedro,

Pedro,

Its early and no one is answering.

Here's a function that will remove  all braces/brackets from a string.
Watch for line wrap.

'---------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------
' Procedure : fExtractBraces
' Author    : Jack
' Created   : 12/14/2009
' Purpose   : To remove "(" and ")" from a string
'---------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------
' Last Modified:
'
' Inputs: String that may contain any number of "(" or ")"
' Dependency: N/A
'---------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
'
Function fExtractBraces(strInString As String) As String
Dim lngLen As Long, strOut As String
Dim i As Long, strTmp As String
   On Error GoTo fExtractBraces_Error
    lngLen = Len(strInString)
    strOut = ""
    For i = 1 To lngLen
        strTmp = Left$(strInString, 1)
        strInString = Right$(strInString, lngLen - i)
        If (Asc(strTmp) <> 40 And Asc(strTmp) <> 41) Then
             strOut = strOut & strTmp
        End If
    Next i
    fExtractBraces = strOut
   On Error GoTo 0
   Exit Function
fExtractBraces_Error:
    MsgBox "Error " & Err.number & " (" & Err.Description & ") in procedure
fExtractBraces"
End Function

Here is a test procedure

Sub Pedro()
Dim x As String
x = "abcd(rst)xyz(abf)"
Debug.Print x
Debug.Print fExtractBraces(x)
End Sub


With result:
abcd(rst)xyz(abf)
abcdrstxyzabf



I've also tried it in SQL query on one of my tables:

Sub Pedro1()
Dim sql As String
Dim x As String
x = "abcd(rst)xyz(abf)"
Debug.Print x
Debug.Print fExtractBraces(x)
'
'test  using sql query

Dim db As DAO.Database
Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
Set db = CurrentDb
Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select petname,fextractbraces(petname) from pet")
Do While Not rs.EOF
 Debug.Print rs!petname & "..." & fExtractBraces(rs!petname)
rs.MoveNext
Loop 
'
'  Update the petname 
Dim UpdateText As String
UpdateText = "Update pet Set petname = fExtractBraces(petname) " _
 & " where petname like '*(*' "
 db.Execute UpdateText, dbFailOnError

End Sub


With results:
Fluffy...Fluffy
Puffy...Puffy
accde(ew)43wj(d)...accdeew43wjd

 Then after executing the Update statement

Pet_Id	PetName	    PetOwner
003	Fluffy	                  O'Keefe
006	Puffy	                  O'Keefe
009	accdeew43wjd     Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 4:33 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )

Hello David,

the query, almost does what i want.

SELECT Concl, 
Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2
)
AS Expr1
FROM YourTable
WHERE (((Concl) Like "*(*)*"));

- Only when there are more values with ( ) it only returns the first value
- The value that is returned ( ) also gives part of the rest of the concl 
text after the ) but sometimes it is cut off after a certain length and 
sometimes not. I Tried to variabel the "compare argument", but no result.

for example (what the expression returns)

Concl                                            expr1
aaa (g2Ta)bbbbcccc                      g2Ta)bbbbc
aaaaa(g2Ta)cccccccdddddd          g2Ta)ccccccccdddd

i don't see the logic of the lengt of the text part after the ) in expr1

How can i solve this?

Pedro







----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David McAfee" <davidmcafee at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )


If this looks good:
SELECT Concl, 
Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2
)
AS Expr1
FROM YourTable
WHERE (((Concl) Like "*(*)*"));

you can do it like this:
UPDATE YourTable SET YourTable.fldSelection =
Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2
)
WHERE (((YourTable.Concl) Like "*(*)*"));



On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl> wrote:
> Dear Group,
>
> is it possible to filter out text between ( ) in a field [Concl] and place

> only the text between ( ) in a new field [fldSelection], with a query.
>
> Thanks
>
> Pedro
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Dec 14 10:13:30 2009
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:13:30 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] A call to the helpdesk
In-Reply-To: <66D9CA142291D741B515207C09AA3BC3147D00@MAIL2.FLDOE.INT>
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Message-ID: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E341DD2F1@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>

I got a frantic call one day from a user who waiked, "I've lost my buttons!"  After I finished rolling on the floor, I went to look at her setup.  She had been playing with her system settings.  Turns out she had changed the text forecolor color to the same as the background.  She couldn't read the text on the buttons AND when she opened Word, she  couldn't read her documents.  Yes, I got a call about that too.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Klos, Susan
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 1:08 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] A call to the helpdesk

I am sure many of us have similar stories.  The one that always comes to my mind was a call from a distraught user while I was on the help desk.

She insisted that there was nothing on her screen when she started her omputer.

Me: Is the screen (monitor) turned on?
U:  I don't know.
Me: Is there a small light on anywhere?
U: No.
Me: Is the monitor plugged in?
U:  Yes, it is plugged into that thingy on the floor that has all the plugs in it.  (I figured she was talking about the surge protector)
Me:  OK.  Is the "thingy with the plugs in it" plugged in?
U: Yes.
At this point I was a bit confused so I went to the user's office to track down the problem.  I found the surge protector was in fact plugged in--to itself.  I discretely plugged it into the wall and fiddled a bit with the plugs to make a show of trying to figure it out.  Then I turned on the computer and the monitor and voila! It worked.  I suggested to her that if things don't start she be sure the plugs are securely plugged into the surge protector and that the surge protector is securely plugged intot he wall.

Susan Klos
Senior Database Analyst
Florida Department of Education
Evaluation and Reporting Office
Phone: 850.245.0708
Fax: 850.245.0710
email: susan.klos at fldoe.org

-----Original Message-----


Message: 19
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:29:00 +0100
From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
Subject: [AccessD] A call to the helpdesk
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <sb226552.078 at cactus.dk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

Hi all

Since we started business in 1993 we've had numerous not-so-straight calls from clients but none like this.

First: Client is a bit special - running a medium sized centre for plants, garden and accessories with three cash lines. The current owners bought the site about three years ago from the original owners who had ran it since 2001. Most equipment and software was carried forward from their previous business established in 1998. That year they bought a complete setup from us with a Novell NetWare 4.11 server, IBM pcs with
Win98 and an Access based ERP system heavily modified by us to handle all inventory, heavy duty label printing and POS functions including barcode scanners and cash receipts.
All this to tell you that this is proven equipment which has ran business for 7 days a week excluding Christmas and New Year in 11 years.
Further, the server was bought second hand - it was our own primary server from 1993 which means - hold your breath - that we are dealing with a 16 years old Micron clone with 486 processor and 32 MB of ram, also an Adaptec SCSI controller, a VGA board and a 3Com NIC and, of course, ISA bus. The power supply and the harddisk have been replaced once. Talk about value for money.
The Access mdb are shared on the NetWare server as are the main laser printer. The pcs are for the cash lines, and one is for the back office where it also controls two serial attached heavy duty label printers printing water resistant labels.

We haven't heard from the client for some years and believed they had trashed it all and bought something new. But no. Yesterday the phone rang and we had a little chit-chat. Then:

Client: We have taken up fireworks as a product line and need to create a new product group for this to be able to print labels, but we can't get access to the system!
Me: Access? You just open the sales module and create the product group.
Then run the routines to bring it forward to the cash line. Pretty straight forward.

C: We know. We have written down somewhere how to. But we can't get access.
M: Well, do you get some kind of error message?

C: Yes. It's something about printer server is down.
M: OK. When do you see this message? When you log in?

C: Log in?
M: Yes, when you turn the machine on, after a while you login. It is a box labelled Novell. Did you see that?

C: No. It is always on.
M: OK, then perhaps you have lost the network connection to the server
(comment: Very unlikely, but you seek for causes)
M: Do you have access to the Internet?

C: Oh, you better get my partner. I'm not so good with computers and so.
M: OK.

C: (The partner takes over) Yes we have access. (comment: Clients lie.
Always put cross-checking questions).
C: But we can't access that.
M: (slightly confused). Oh. But please check the network cables. Is the machine connected?

C: Yes, the cable runs to the box (comment: switch) besides the server.
M: Do you see some lights flashing at the cable's connections?

C: Yes.
M: And the cash lines are operating?

C: Yes.
M: Fine. Then the server and the network is operating.
M: We better establish a firm point. How about rebooting the machine?
Just press Ctrl-Alt-Del.

C: (pushes keys a couple of times) It doesn't react.
M: It may have locked up completely. Turn it off and then on.

C: (Turns it off, waits, turns it on)
M: (After a little while) Well, what do you see on the screen. A Novell login?

C: No, it displays the same.
M: The same what?

C: It looks like it has done all the time. Something about printer server is off.
M: (At this point realising that the monitor is connected to the server, and now the error message suddenly makes sense)
M: Oh my, you are looking at the wrong monitor. What about the monitor for the workstation?

C: What monitor?
M: (Now more than slightly confused) Well, you have a monitor for the workstation, right?

C: There is only this one monitor here.
M: OK. Then someone must have moved the monitor from the workstation to the server to watch the backup log.
M: (An old monitor used to be attached to the server, and I thought it was now gone)
M: Move it back to the workstation so it can tell us what is happening.

C: (Connects the monitor to the workstation)
M: What do you see?

C: There is a message about post ...
M: (Knowing that this means some kind of hardware change on an IBM) It has detected some change in hardware. Just press F1 to continue.

C: (Pressing some keys) Nothing happens.
M: Strange. Are you sure the keyboard is connected? Does the Caps and Num lock work?

C: Yes, I can turn them on and off. That's all.
M: (Now realising the impossible) Please check the keyboard cable. Where is it connected please?

C: (Fumbling with cables) It runs to the server ...
M: OK. That explains. The keyboard has been moved to the server too.
Please move it to the workstation.

C: The plug doesn't fit!
M: (Suddenly remembering that old keyboards had a DIN plug and not a
PS/2 plug)
M: The keyboard and the monitor are those intended to be used with the server, I guess. Do they look pretty old?

C: Yes.
M: OK. Both the monitor and the keyboard are those for the server.
M: Where are the keyboard and monitor for the workstation? Has someone disconnected those?
M: (comment: At this point the partner had left the room)

C: I don't know. There are no more monitors or keyboards in the office
(comment: office is pretty small and easy to glance)
M: But how do you operate the workstation? Don't you use it for printing the thick labels?

C: Yes we do. Don't know where the monitor has gone. (He yells the partner with no success).
M: OK. You better talk to your partner and ask where he has taken the monitor and keyboard.

C: I'll do that.
M: Fine. And when you have attached these, if you still have a problem, please call again.
C: Yes. Thanks! (hangs up)

The client didn't call back.
Once again, the people working full time at the helpdesks around deserve the deepest respect. I know for sure I wouldn't have the patience needed.

/gustav




------------------------------

Message: 20
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:24:41 -0500
From: jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW:   A call to the helpdesk
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
        <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <4B226439.20602 at colbyconsulting.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

ROTFL.  It takes a certain type of personality.  Or good drugs.

I didn't say that.  That was a flashback.  Oh noooooo I'm seeing colors...

;)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Since we started business in 1993 we've had numerous not-so-straight
calls from clients but none like this.
>
> First: Client is a bit special - running a medium sized centre for
plants, garden and accessories with three cash lines. The current owners bought the site about three years ago from the original owners who had ran it since 2001. Most equipment and software was carried forward from their previous business established in 1998. That year they bought a complete setup from us with a Novell NetWare 4.11 server, IBM pcs with
Win98 and an Access based ERP system heavily modified by us to handle all inventory, heavy duty label printing and POS functions including barcode scanners and cash receipts.
> All this to tell you that this is proven equipment which has ran
business for 7 days a week excluding Christmas and New Year in 11 years.
Further, the server was bought second hand - it was our own primary server from 1993 which means - hold your breath - that we are dealing with a 16 years old Micron clone with 486 processor and 32 MB of ram, also an Adaptec SCSI controller, a VGA board and a 3Com NIC and, of course, ISA bus. The power supply and the harddisk have been replaced once. Talk about value for money.
> The Access mdb are shared on the NetWare server as are the main laser
printer. The pcs are for the cash lines, and one is for the back office where it also controls two serial attached heavy duty label printers printing water resistant labels.
>
> We haven't heard from the client for some years and believed they had
trashed it all and bought something new. But no. Yesterday the phone rang and we had a little chit-chat. Then:
>
> Client: We have taken up fireworks as a product line and need to
create a new product group for this to be able to print labels, but we can't get access to the system!
> Me: Access? You just open the sales module and create the product
group. Then run the routines to bring it forward to the cash line.
Pretty straight forward.
>
> C: We know. We have written down somewhere how to. But we can't get
access.
> M: Well, do you get some kind of error message?
>
> C: Yes. It's something about printer server is down.
> M: OK. When do you see this message? When you log in?
>
> C: Log in?
> M: Yes, when you turn the machine on, after a while you login. It is a
box labelled Novell. Did you see that?
>
> C: No. It is always on.
> M: OK, then perhaps you have lost the network connection to the server
(comment: Very unlikely, but you seek for causes)
> M: Do you have access to the Internet?
>
> C: Oh, you better get my partner. I'm not so good with computers and
so.
> M: OK.
>
> C: (The partner takes over) Yes we have access. (comment: Clients lie.
Always put cross-checking questions).
> C: But we can't access that.
> M: (slightly confused). Oh. But please check the network cables. Is
the machine connected?
>
> C: Yes, the cable runs to the box (comment: switch) besides the
server.
> M: Do you see some lights flashing at the cable's connections?
>
> C: Yes.
> M: And the cash lines are operating?
>
> C: Yes.
> M: Fine. Then the server and the network is operating.
> M: We better establish a firm point. How about rebooting the machine?
Just press Ctrl-Alt-Del.
>
> C: (pushes keys a couple of times) It doesn't react.
> M: It may have locked up completely. Turn it off and then on.
>
> C: (Turns it off, waits, turns it on)
> M: (After a little while) Well, what do you see on the screen. A
Novell login?
>
> C: No, it displays the same.
> M: The same what?
>
> C: It looks like it has done all the time. Something about printer
server is off.
> M: (At this point realising that the monitor is connected to the
server, and now the error message suddenly makes sense)
> M: Oh my, you are looking at the wrong monitor. What about the monitor
for the workstation?
>
> C: What monitor?
> M: (Now more than slightly confused) Well, you have a monitor for the
workstation, right?
>
> C: There is only this one monitor here.
> M: OK. Then someone must have moved the monitor from the workstation
to the server to watch the backup log.
> M: (An old monitor used to be attached to the server, and I thought it
was now gone)
> M: Move it back to the workstation so it can tell us what is
happening.
>
> C: (Connects the monitor to the workstation)
> M: What do you see?
>
> C: There is a message about post ...
> M: (Knowing that this means some kind of hardware change on an IBM) It
has detected some change in hardware. Just press F1 to continue.
>
> C: (Pressing some keys) Nothing happens.
> M: Strange. Are you sure the keyboard is connected? Does the Caps and
Num lock work?
>
> C: Yes, I can turn them on and off. That's all.
> M: (Now realising the impossible) Please check the keyboard cable.
Where is it connected please?
>
> C: (Fumbling with cables) It runs to the server ...
> M: OK. That explains. The keyboard has been moved to the server too.
Please move it to the workstation.
>
> C: The plug doesn't fit!
> M: (Suddenly remembering that old keyboards had a DIN plug and not a
PS/2 plug)
> M: The keyboard and the monitor are those intended to be used with the
server, I guess. Do they look pretty old?
>
> C: Yes.
> M: OK. Both the monitor and the keyboard are those for the server.
> M: Where are the keyboard and monitor for the workstation? Has someone
disconnected those?
> M: (comment: At this point the partner had left the room)
>
> C: I don't know. There are no more monitors or keyboards in the office
(comment: office is pretty small and easy to glance)
> M: But how do you operate the workstation? Don't you use it for
printing the thick labels?
>
> C: Yes we do. Don't know where the monitor has gone. (He yells the
partner with no success).
> M: OK. You better talk to your partner and ask where he has taken the
monitor and keyboard.
>
> C: I'll do that.
> M: Fine. And when you have attached these, if you still have a
problem, please call again.
> C: Yes. Thanks! (hangs up)
>
> The client didn't call back.
> Once again, the people working full time at the helpdesks around
deserve the deepest respect. I know for sure I wouldn't have the patience needed.
>
> /gustav
>
>


------------------------------

Message: 21
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:50:04 -0500
From: "Reuben Cummings" <accessd at gfconsultants.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
        <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <57BAA4FB78414D96AAA6C5D59FC80B03 at reubennx9500>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"

Nope.  Just did it again and you're right.  Yours works fine.
I must have misplaced something when I was trying it Wednesday night.
Sorry.

Thanks, Gustav.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
> Brock
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:45 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
>
>
> Hi Reuben
>
> I did some tests with no errors and returning the correct data type.
> Are you sure about this?
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 10-12-2009 12:57 >>>
> Thanks.  That appears to work.  However, I think your paranthesis are
> off.
> For anyone wanting this for future use I had to change it to...
>
> >   CurResult = CCur((CurAmount * CCur(100 * SngPercentage))/ 100)
>
> Only added two paranthesis (to completely inclose the multiplication
> part), but it makes sure the math gets done before it gets divided by
> 100.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Reuben Cummings
> GFC, LLC
> 812.523.1017
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav
> > Brock
> > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:18 AM
> > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Rounding Error - A2K
> >
> >
> > Hi Reuben
> >
> > There is your explanation: cur * sng returns a double.
> >
> > What you could do is to keep storing the percentage as a single.
> > When using it for calculation, do:
> >
> >   CurResult = CCur(CurAmount * CCur(100 * SngPercentage) / 100)
> >
> > This will calculate using your six decimals and (with CCur) round
> > the result to four decimals.
> >
> > /gustav
> >
> >
> > >>> accessd at gfconsultants.com 10-12-2009 03:16 >>>
> > Stuart and Charlotte, I'll play with the single/double issue.
> >
> > The dollar amounts are all currency.
> >
> > The percentage (.25xxx) is a single.  Not sure why as this is the
> > first time I've ever used a single.
> > All these years and I've never used single and the first time I do
> > it BITES me.
> > I wanted to use currency for the percentage, but the state defines
> > these rates to 6 decimals.
> >
> > Reuben Cummings
> > GFC, LLC
> > 812.523.1017
>
>
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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:13:15 -0500
From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at gmail.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Another article you might want to take part in
To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <332033CB1E684498ADD7617B6AC33B2A at SusanOne>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
        reply-type=original

I'm writing about the Access features/tips... whatever that we forget
about -- they work great, but we forget to use them, usually because we
don't use them all the time.

If you have something you want to add, I'll give you credit and a link
in
the article.

Susan H.



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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Dec 14 10:40:15 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:40:15 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A call to the helpdesk
Message-ID: <sb267899.023@cactus.dk>

Hi Charlotte

You learn to be a good diplomat this way - making a joke of it while not laughing - while you for yourself wonder if a bigger fool should exist ... I mean, sometimes you wonder how limited people's fantasy is - did this lady really believe the buttons were gone? Why and how should they? What did I do a minute ago that could have influenced anything? No no, call Charlotte or Gustav or Susan or ...

/gustav


>>> cfoust at infostatsystems.com 14-12-2009 17:13 >>>
I got a frantic call one day from a user who waiked, "I've lost my buttons!"  After I finished rolling on the floor, I went to look at her setup.  She had been playing with her system settings.  Turns out she had changed the text forecolor color to the same as the background.  She couldn't read the text on the buttons AND when she opened Word, she  couldn't read her documents.  Yes, I got a call about that too.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Klos, Susan
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 1:08 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: [AccessD] A call to the helpdesk

I am sure many of us have similar stories.  The one that always comes to my mind was a call from a distraught user while I was on the help desk.

She insisted that there was nothing on her screen when she started her omputer.

Me: Is the screen (monitor) turned on?
U:  I don't know.
Me: Is there a small light on anywhere?
U: No.
Me: Is the monitor plugged in?
U:  Yes, it is plugged into that thingy on the floor that has all the plugs in it.  (I figured she was talking about the surge protector)
Me:  OK.  Is the "thingy with the plugs in it" plugged in?
U: Yes.
At this point I was a bit confused so I went to the user's office to track down the problem.  I found the surge protector was in fact plugged in--to itself.  I discretely plugged it into the wall and fiddled a bit with the plugs to make a show of trying to figure it out.  Then I turned on the computer and the monitor and voila! It worked.  I suggested to her that if things don't start she be sure the plugs are securely plugged into the surge protector and that the surge protector is securely plugged intot he wall.

Susan Klos
Senior Database Analyst
Florida Department of Education
Evaluation and Reporting Office
Phone: 850.245.0708
Fax: 850.245.0710
email: susan.klos at fldoe.org 




From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Dec 14 11:12:38 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:12:38 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Hosed back end
Message-ID: <73DE7C1351024D3597DE166C2987A981@HAL9005>

Dear List:

Client has a back end which I think was corrupted by a remote user dropping
out at an inopportune moment.  But when I try to open this database I get
the message that the database is corrupted would I like Access to try to fix
it. I say Yes and the hourglass shows but nothing happens - I don't even see
the db1.mdb which gets created during a compact - don't know if that is
supposed to happen in a repair.

Anyway, after 5 minutes I terminate it as I don't think it's going to
complete successfully. Decompile doesn't work - I get the same dialog box
asking if I want Access to repair it. The mdb is only 27MB so I don't think
it should take more than a couple minutes to repair.  I could put it on a
second machine and let it run for an hour - see if anything happens.  Could
it take more than a few minutes to repair a 27MB mdb?

I tried importing the tables into a clean mdb but I can't open the hosed
database to see the tables.

They can restore from Wednesday's backup so they're not dead in the water.
But is there any other alternative to repairing or recovering the data from
this mdb?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 

www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 

 

 


From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com  Mon Dec 14 11:36:28 2009
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (Rusty Hammond)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:36:28 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Hosed back end
In-Reply-To: <73DE7C1351024D3597DE166C2987A981@HAL9005>
References: <73DE7C1351024D3597DE166C2987A981@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB7217006D792B5@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET>

Rocky, 
Microsoft has a utility called JetComp that may help.  It can be found
here:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/295334


HTH

Rusty
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 11:13 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Hosed back end

Dear List:

Client has a back end which I think was corrupted by a remote user
dropping out at an inopportune moment.  But when I try to open this
database I get the message that the database is corrupted would I like
Access to try to fix it. I say Yes and the hourglass shows but nothing
happens - I don't even see the db1.mdb which gets created during a
compact - don't know if that is supposed to happen in a repair.

Anyway, after 5 minutes I terminate it as I don't think it's going to
complete successfully. Decompile doesn't work - I get the same dialog
box asking if I want Access to repair it. The mdb is only 27MB so I
don't think it should take more than a couple minutes to repair.  I
could put it on a second machine and let it run for an hour - see if
anything happens.  Could it take more than a few minutes to repair a
27MB mdb?

I tried importing the tables into a clean mdb but I can't open the hosed
database to see the tables.

They can restore from Wednesday's backup so they're not dead in the
water.
But is there any other alternative to repairing or recovering the data
from this mdb?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 

www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 

 

 

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From davidmcafee at gmail.com  Mon Dec 14 12:07:00 2009
From: davidmcafee at gmail.com (David McAfee)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:07:00 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] text between ( )
In-Reply-To: <000e01ca7ca0$7cee6410$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
References: <001f01ca78ea$939c60e0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
	<8786a4c00912090958t2d299e17seb1c4809422bd660@mail.gmail.com>
	<000e01ca7ca0$7cee6410$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <8786a4c00912141007x2382c5c8s1bc8feec879f4805@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry about that. The Mid statement should read as follows:

Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,(InStr(1,[Concl],")"))-1-(InStr(1,[Concl],"(")))

That gives me:
PhoneNo	                            Expr1
(818)5551212	                    818
(626)555-1212	                    626
(626)5554687	                    626
aaa (g2Ta)bbbbcccc	            g2Ta
aaaaa(g2Ta)cccccccdddddd   g2Ta

This gives us the 1st (open) parenthesis:
 InStr(1,[Concl],"(")

This gives us the 1st closed parenthesis
 InStr(1,[Concl],")")


This is the length of everything between the two:
(InStr(1,[Concl],")"))-1-(InStr(1,[Concl],"("))

If you have an closed parenthesis before the first open one, the
statement will give you an error:
Concl                        Expr1
111)sdsf(ssgs)gsgs	#Error

If we replace the "1" in the closed statement, with the 1st open
statement, we can correct this error.
So instead of starting at position 1, we will start after the first
found open parenthesis
Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,(InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")"))-1-(InStr(1,[Concl],"(")))

Concl                        Expr1
111)sdsf(ssgs)gsgs	ssgs

A double situation will only result in the first set showing up:
Concl                        Expr1
abc(gta)xyz(gta2)lmo	gta

Anything like this will be filtered out with the Like statement:
Concl                        Expr1
lalala)djjdjsdgs	        #Error
dfsdsgsg	                #Error
(sgsgsgssgs	        #Error

HTH,
David McAfee

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl> wrote:
> Hello David,
>
> the query, almost does what i want.
>
> SELECT Concl,
> Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2)
> AS Expr1
> FROM YourTable
> WHERE (((Concl) Like "*(*)*"));
>
> - Only when there are more values with ( ) it only returns the first value
> - The value that is returned ( ) also gives part of the rest of the concl
> text after the ) but sometimes it is cut off after a certain length and
> sometimes not. I Tried to variabel the "compare argument", but no result.
>
> for example (what the expression returns)
>
> Concl ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?expr1
> aaa (g2Ta)bbbbcccc ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?g2Ta)bbbbc
> aaaaa(g2Ta)cccccccdddddd ? ? ? ? ?g2Ta)ccccccccdddd
>
> i don't see the logic of the lengt of the text part after the ) in expr1
>
> How can i solve this?
>
> Pedro
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David McAfee" <davidmcafee at gmail.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )
>
>
> If this looks good:
> SELECT Concl,
> Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2)
> AS Expr1
> FROM YourTable
> WHERE (((Concl) Like "*(*)*"));
>
> you can do it like this:
> UPDATE YourTable SET YourTable.fldSelection =
> Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2)
> WHERE (((YourTable.Concl) Like "*(*)*"));
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl> wrote:
>> Dear Group,
>>
>> is it possible to filter out text between ( ) in a field [Concl] and place
>> only the text between ( ) in a new field [fldSelection], with a query.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Pedro
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Dec 14 12:17:07 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:17:07 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Hosed back end
In-Reply-To: <49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB7217006D792B5@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET>
References: <73DE7C1351024D3597DE166C2987A981@HAL9005>
	<49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB7217006D792B5@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET>
Message-ID: <68452D13224B405DA39E848405AA9104@HAL9005>

Rusty:

Thanks - but wouldn't compact.  Got an error reading the source.

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 9:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Hosed back end

Rocky,
Microsoft has a utility called JetComp that may help.  It can be found
here:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/295334


HTH

Rusty
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 11:13 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Hosed back end

Dear List:

Client has a back end which I think was corrupted by a remote user dropping
out at an inopportune moment.  But when I try to open this database I get
the message that the database is corrupted would I like Access to try to fix
it. I say Yes and the hourglass shows but nothing happens - I don't even see
the db1.mdb which gets created during a compact - don't know if that is
supposed to happen in a repair.

Anyway, after 5 minutes I terminate it as I don't think it's going to
complete successfully. Decompile doesn't work - I get the same dialog box
asking if I want Access to repair it. The mdb is only 27MB so I don't think
it should take more than a couple minutes to repair.  I could put it on a
second machine and let it run for an hour - see if anything happens.  Could
it take more than a few minutes to repair a 27MB mdb?

I tried importing the tables into a clean mdb but I can't open the hosed
database to see the tables.

They can restore from Wednesday's backup so they're not dead in the water.
But is there any other alternative to repairing or recovering the data from
this mdb?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 

www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 

 

 

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From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Dec 14 12:20:15 2009
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:20:15 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] text between ( )
References: <001f01ca78ea$939c60e0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9><8786a4c00912090958t2d299e17seb1c4809422bd660@mail.gmail.com><000e01ca7ca0$7cee6410$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
	<95D07C7764CC47D1BA5FB0A40A8AAD92@AMDXP>
Message-ID: <004f01ca7cea$151f1330$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Thanks Jack and Pat,

this is very usefull.

Pedro



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jack and Pat" <drawbridgej at sympatico.ca>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )


> Pedro,
>
> Pedro,
>
> Its early and no one is answering.
>
> Here's a function that will remove  all braces/brackets from a string.
> Watch for line wrap.
>
> '---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------
> ' Procedure : fExtractBraces
> ' Author    : Jack
> ' Created   : 12/14/2009
> ' Purpose   : To remove "(" and ")" from a string
> '---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------
> ' Last Modified:
> '
> ' Inputs: String that may contain any number of "(" or ")"
> ' Dependency: N/A
> '---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---
> '
> Function fExtractBraces(strInString As String) As String
> Dim lngLen As Long, strOut As String
> Dim i As Long, strTmp As String
>   On Error GoTo fExtractBraces_Error
>    lngLen = Len(strInString)
>    strOut = ""
>    For i = 1 To lngLen
>        strTmp = Left$(strInString, 1)
>        strInString = Right$(strInString, lngLen - i)
>        If (Asc(strTmp) <> 40 And Asc(strTmp) <> 41) Then
>             strOut = strOut & strTmp
>        End If
>    Next i
>    fExtractBraces = strOut
>   On Error GoTo 0
>   Exit Function
> fExtractBraces_Error:
>    MsgBox "Error " & Err.number & " (" & Err.Description & ") in procedure
> fExtractBraces"
> End Function
>
> Here is a test procedure
>
> Sub Pedro()
> Dim x As String
> x = "abcd(rst)xyz(abf)"
> Debug.Print x
> Debug.Print fExtractBraces(x)
> End Sub
>
>
> With result:
> abcd(rst)xyz(abf)
> abcdrstxyzabf
>
>
>
> I've also tried it in SQL query on one of my tables:
>
> Sub Pedro1()
> Dim sql As String
> Dim x As String
> x = "abcd(rst)xyz(abf)"
> Debug.Print x
> Debug.Print fExtractBraces(x)
> '
> 'test  using sql query
>
> Dim db As DAO.Database
> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
> Set db = CurrentDb
> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select petname,fextractbraces(petname) from 
> pet")
> Do While Not rs.EOF
> Debug.Print rs!petname & "..." & fExtractBraces(rs!petname)
> rs.MoveNext
> Loop
> '
> '  Update the petname
> Dim UpdateText As String
> UpdateText = "Update pet Set petname = fExtractBraces(petname) " _
> & " where petname like '*(*' "
> db.Execute UpdateText, dbFailOnError
>
> End Sub
>
>
> With results:
> Fluffy...Fluffy
> Puffy...Puffy
> accde(ew)43wj(d)...accdeew43wjd
>
> Then after executing the Update statement
>
> Pet_Id PetName     PetOwner
> 003 Fluffy                   O'Keefe
> 006 Puffy                   O'Keefe
> 009 accdeew43wjd     Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 4:33 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )
>
> Hello David,
>
> the query, almost does what i want.
>
> SELECT Concl,
> Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2
> )
> AS Expr1
> FROM YourTable
> WHERE (((Concl) Like "*(*)*"));
>
> - Only when there are more values with ( ) it only returns the first value
> - The value that is returned ( ) also gives part of the rest of the concl
> text after the ) but sometimes it is cut off after a certain length and
> sometimes not. I Tried to variabel the "compare argument", but no result.
>
> for example (what the expression returns)
>
> Concl                                            expr1
> aaa (g2Ta)bbbbcccc                      g2Ta)bbbbc
> aaaaa(g2Ta)cccccccdddddd          g2Ta)ccccccccdddd
>
> i don't see the logic of the lengt of the text part after the ) in expr1
>
> How can i solve this?
>
> Pedro
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David McAfee" <davidmcafee at gmail.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )
>
>
> If this looks good:
> SELECT Concl,
> Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2
> )
> AS Expr1
> FROM YourTable
> WHERE (((Concl) Like "*(*)*"));
>
> you can do it like this:
> UPDATE YourTable SET YourTable.fldSelection =
> Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2
> )
> WHERE (((YourTable.Concl) Like "*(*)*"));
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl> wrote:
>> Dear Group,
>>
>> is it possible to filter out text between ( ) in a field [Concl] and 
>> place
>
>> only the text between ( ) in a new field [fldSelection], with a query.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Pedro
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From miscellany at mvps.org  Mon Dec 14 12:20:43 2009
From: miscellany at mvps.org (Steve Schapel)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 07:20:43 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Hosed back end
In-Reply-To: <73DE7C1351024D3597DE166C2987A981@HAL9005>
References: <73DE7C1351024D3597DE166C2987A981@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <2DA1456EC1C049C38136024A6329CDC8@stevePC>

Rocky,

Yes, I would try JetComp as suggested by Rusty.

If that doesn't do the trick, I can recommend the service provided by Wayne 
Phillips at http://www.everythingaccess.com/accessdatabaserepair.htm

Regards
Steve


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 6:12 AM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Hosed back end

> Dear List:
>
> Client has a back end which I think was corrupted by a remote user 
> dropping
> out at an inopportune moment.  But when I try to open this database I get
> the message that the database is corrupted would I like Access to try to 
> fix
> it. I say Yes and the hourglass shows but nothing happens - I don't even 
> see
> the db1.mdb which gets created during a compact - don't know if that is
> supposed to happen in a repair.
>
> Anyway, after 5 minutes I terminate it as I don't think it's going to
> complete successfully. Decompile doesn't work - I get the same dialog box
> asking if I want Access to repair it. The mdb is only 27MB so I don't 
> think
> it should take more than a couple minutes to repair.  I could put it on a
> second machine and let it run for an hour - see if anything happens. 
> Could
> it take more than a few minutes to repair a 27MB mdb?
>
> I tried importing the tables into a clean mdb but I can't open the hosed
> database to see the tables.
>
> They can restore from Wednesday's backup so they're not dead in the water.
> But is there any other alternative to repairing or recovering the data 
> from
> this mdb?
 



From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Dec 14 12:23:26 2009
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:23:26 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] text between ( )
References: <001f01ca78ea$939c60e0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9><8786a4c00912090958t2d299e17seb1c4809422bd660@mail.gmail.com><000e01ca7ca0$7cee6410$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
	<8786a4c00912141007x2382c5c8s1bc8feec879f4805@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005601ca7cea$86f75cb0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello david,

thanks for your explanation.

You say:
"A double situation will only result in the first set showing up:
Concl                        Expr1
abc(gta)xyz(gta2)lmo  gta"



How can i get this result for "A double stuation"
Concl                                   Expr1
abc(gta)xyz(gta2)lmo            gta & gta2

Pedro


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From: "David McAfee" <davidmcafee at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )


Sorry about that. The Mid statement should read as follows:

Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,(InStr(1,[Concl],")"))-1-(InStr(1,[Concl],"(")))

That gives me:
PhoneNo                             Expr1
(818)5551212                     818
(626)555-1212                     626
(626)5554687                     626
aaa (g2Ta)bbbbcccc             g2Ta
aaaaa(g2Ta)cccccccdddddd   g2Ta

This gives us the 1st (open) parenthesis:
 InStr(1,[Concl],"(")

This gives us the 1st closed parenthesis
 InStr(1,[Concl],")")


This is the length of everything between the two:
(InStr(1,[Concl],")"))-1-(InStr(1,[Concl],"("))

If you have an closed parenthesis before the first open one, the
statement will give you an error:
Concl                        Expr1
111)sdsf(ssgs)gsgs #Error

If we replace the "1" in the closed statement, with the 1st open
statement, we can correct this error.
So instead of starting at position 1, we will start after the first
found open parenthesis
Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,(InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")"))-1-(InStr(1,[Concl],"(")))

Concl                        Expr1
111)sdsf(ssgs)gsgs ssgs

A double situation will only result in the first set showing up:
Concl                        Expr1
abc(gta)xyz(gta2)lmo gta

Anything like this will be filtered out with the Like statement:
Concl                        Expr1
lalala)djjdjsdgs         #Error
dfsdsgsg                 #Error
(sgsgsgssgs         #Error

HTH,
David McAfee

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl> wrote:
> Hello David,
>
> the query, almost does what i want.
>
> SELECT Concl,
> Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2)
> AS Expr1
> FROM YourTable
> WHERE (((Concl) Like "*(*)*"));
>
> - Only when there are more values with ( ) it only returns the first value
> - The value that is returned ( ) also gives part of the rest of the concl
> text after the ) but sometimes it is cut off after a certain length and
> sometimes not. I Tried to variabel the "compare argument", but no result.
>
> for example (what the expression returns)
>
> Concl expr1
> aaa (g2Ta)bbbbcccc g2Ta)bbbbc
> aaaaa(g2Ta)cccccccdddddd g2Ta)ccccccccdddd
>
> i don't see the logic of the lengt of the text part after the ) in expr1
>
> How can i solve this?
>
> Pedro
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David McAfee" <davidmcafee at gmail.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )
>
>
> If this looks good:
> SELECT Concl,
> Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2)
> AS Expr1
> FROM YourTable
> WHERE (((Concl) Like "*(*)*"));
>
> you can do it like this:
> UPDATE YourTable SET YourTable.fldSelection =
> Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2)
> WHERE (((YourTable.Concl) Like "*(*)*"));
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl> wrote:
>> Dear Group,
>>
>> is it possible to filter out text between ( ) in a field [Concl] and 
>> place
>> only the text between ( ) in a new field [fldSelection], with a query.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Pedro
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From davidmcafee at gmail.com  Mon Dec 14 12:24:37 2009
From: davidmcafee at gmail.com (David McAfee)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:24:37 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A call to the helpdesk
In-Reply-To: <sb267899.023@cactus.dk>
References: <sb267899.023@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <8786a4c00912141024l1ba07179v44858246a0c24f27@mail.gmail.com>

We took a screen shot of our desktop (Taskbar was locked) then moved
all of the icons to another folder.
We made the screen shot our default picture/background.

We then moved the task bar to the very top and set to to auto hide.

We then had fun with our Help desk guys :)

We were telling them that nothing was responding to clicks on the desktop.

When they said our box was locked up, we showed them that we could
alt-tab switch to any open program, click on stuff with the mouse just
fine :)

Press Window+D and get back to the desktop and nothing responds.

That was fun.

:)

D


From RRANTHON at sentara.com  Mon Dec 14 12:24:32 2009
From: RRANTHON at sentara.com (RANDALL R ANTHONY)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:24:32 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Hosed back end
In-Reply-To: <68452D13224B405DA39E848405AA9104@HAL9005>
References: <73DE7C1351024D3597DE166C2987A981@HAL9005>
	<49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB7217006D792B5@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET>
	<68452D13224B405DA39E848405AA9104@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <200912141824.nBEIOhoj003272@databaseadvisors.com>

Rocky, can you open any table in the BE?  If you can, you might be able to copy/paste records to a new table in the new BE.  Or export from the table to a new mdb.

>>> On 12/14/2009 at 1:17 PM, in message <68452D13224B405DA39E848405AA9104 at HAL9005>, "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:
Rusty:

Thanks - but wouldn't compact.  Got an error reading the source.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 9:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Hosed back end

Rocky,
Microsoft has a utility called JetComp that may help.  It can be found
here:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/295334 


HTH

Rusty


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 11:13 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Hosed back end

Dear List:

Client has a back end which I think was corrupted by a remote user dropping
out at an inopportune moment.  But when I try to open this database I get
the message that the database is corrupted would I like Access to try to fix
it. I say Yes and the hourglass shows but nothing happens - I don't even see
the db1.mdb which gets created during a compact - don't know if that is
supposed to happen in a repair.

Anyway, after 5 minutes I terminate it as I don't think it's going to
complete successfully. Decompile doesn't work - I get the same dialog box
asking if I want Access to repair it. The mdb is only 27MB so I don't think
it should take more than a couple minutes to repair.  I could put it on a
second machine and let it run for an hour - see if anything happens.  Could
it take more than a few minutes to repair a 27MB mdb?

I tried importing the tables into a clean mdb but I can't open the hosed
database to see the tables.

They can restore from Wednesday's backup so they're not dead in the water.
But is there any other alternative to repairing or recovering the data from
this mdb?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e ( http://www.e/ )-z-mrp.com/> 

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Dec 14 12:34:59 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:34:59 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Hosed back end
In-Reply-To: <2DA1456EC1C049C38136024A6329CDC8@stevePC>
References: <73DE7C1351024D3597DE166C2987A981@HAL9005>
	<2DA1456EC1C049C38136024A6329CDC8@stevePC>
Message-ID: <5D1C565050A7499D9A946FED2BDED410@HAL9005>

I forwarded the link to the client.  Looks like a good option if their
restore doesn't work out.

Thanks

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Schapel
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 10:21 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Hosed back end

Rocky,

Yes, I would try JetComp as suggested by Rusty.

If that doesn't do the trick, I can recommend the service provided by Wayne
Phillips at http://www.everythingaccess.com/accessdatabaserepair.htm

Regards
Steve


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 6:12 AM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Hosed back end

> Dear List:
>
> Client has a back end which I think was corrupted by a remote user 
> dropping out at an inopportune moment.  But when I try to open this 
> database I get the message that the database is corrupted would I like 
> Access to try to fix it. I say Yes and the hourglass shows but nothing 
> happens - I don't even see the db1.mdb which gets created during a 
> compact - don't know if that is supposed to happen in a repair.
>
> Anyway, after 5 minutes I terminate it as I don't think it's going to 
> complete successfully. Decompile doesn't work - I get the same dialog 
> box asking if I want Access to repair it. The mdb is only 27MB so I 
> don't think it should take more than a couple minutes to repair.  I 
> could put it on a second machine and let it run for an hour - see if 
> anything happens.
> Could
> it take more than a few minutes to repair a 27MB mdb?
>
> I tried importing the tables into a clean mdb but I can't open the 
> hosed database to see the tables.
>
> They can restore from Wednesday's backup so they're not dead in the water.
> But is there any other alternative to repairing or recovering the data 
> from this mdb?
 

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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Dec 14 12:46:50 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:46:50 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Hosed back end
In-Reply-To: <200912141824.nBEIOhoj003272@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <73DE7C1351024D3597DE166C2987A981@HAL9005><49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB7217006D792B5@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET><68452D13224B405DA39E848405AA9104@HAL9005>
	<200912141824.nBEIOhoj003272@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <1946B269BE594559871BE62FC07CD733@HAL9005>

 Rusty:

No. :( Can't open the back end or even import into a clean mdb.
R

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of RANDALL R ANTHONY
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 10:25 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Hosed back end

Rocky, can you open any table in the BE?  If you can, you might be able to
copy/paste records to a new table in the new BE.  Or export from the table
to a new mdb.

>>> On 12/14/2009 at 1:17 PM, in message
<68452D13224B405DA39E848405AA9104 at HAL9005>, "Rocky Smolin"
<rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:
Rusty:

Thanks - but wouldn't compact.  Got an error reading the source.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 9:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Hosed back end

Rocky,
Microsoft has a utility called JetComp that may help.  It can be found
here:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/295334 


HTH

Rusty


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 11:13 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Hosed back end

Dear List:

Client has a back end which I think was corrupted by a remote user dropping
out at an inopportune moment.  But when I try to open this database I get
the message that the database is corrupted would I like Access to try to fix
it. I say Yes and the hourglass shows but nothing happens - I don't even see
the db1.mdb which gets created during a compact - don't know if that is
supposed to happen in a repair.

Anyway, after 5 minutes I terminate it as I don't think it's going to
complete successfully. Decompile doesn't work - I get the same dialog box
asking if I want Access to repair it. The mdb is only 27MB so I don't think
it should take more than a couple minutes to repair.  I could put it on a
second machine and let it run for an hour - see if anything happens.  Could
it take more than a few minutes to repair a 27MB mdb?

I tried importing the tables into a clean mdb but I can't open the hosed
database to see the tables.

They can restore from Wednesday's backup so they're not dead in the water.
But is there any other alternative to repairing or recovering the data from
this mdb?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e ( http://www.e/ )-z-mrp.com/> 

www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 





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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Dec 14 12:53:59 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:53:59 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A call to the helpdesk
Message-ID: <sb2697e6.027@cactus.dk>

Hi David

Naughty boys you were! 
Such jokes are charged a beer.

/gustav


>>> davidmcafee at gmail.com 14-12-2009 19:24 >>>
We took a screen shot of our desktop (Taskbar was locked) then moved
all of the icons to another folder.
We made the screen shot our default picture/background.

We then moved the task bar to the very top and set to to auto hide.

We then had fun with our Help desk guys :)

We were telling them that nothing was responding to clicks on the desktop.

When they said our box was locked up, we showed them that we could
alt-tab switch to any open program, click on stuff with the mouse just
fine :)

Press Window+D and get back to the desktop and nothing responds.

That was fun.

:)

D




From davidmcafee at gmail.com  Mon Dec 14 13:06:38 2009
From: davidmcafee at gmail.com (David McAfee)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:06:38 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] text between ( )
In-Reply-To: <005601ca7cea$86f75cb0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
References: <001f01ca78ea$939c60e0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
	<8786a4c00912090958t2d299e17seb1c4809422bd660@mail.gmail.com>
	<000e01ca7ca0$7cee6410$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
	<8786a4c00912141007x2382c5c8s1bc8feec879f4805@mail.gmail.com>
	<005601ca7cea$86f75cb0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <8786a4c00912141106u2b96cd21u1641ae6527f1eb7b@mail.gmail.com>

Just off the top of my head, I would run a second query to catch those.

The Like statement would have to be like this:
Like "*(*)*(*)*"


This select statement should get you going in the right direction,
look at the "Solution2" expression:
SELECT YourTable.Concl,
Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,(InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")"))-1-(InStr(1,[Concl],"(")))
AS Solution1, InStr(1,[Concl],"(") AS firstOpenPar,
InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")") AS firstClosepar,
InStr([firstOpenPar]+1,[Concl],"(") AS 2ndOpenPar,
InStr(InStr([2ndOpenPar],[Concl],"("),[Concl],")") AS 2ndClosepar,
Mid([Concl],[2ndOpenPar]+1,[2ndClosepar]-1-[2ndOpenPar]) AS Solution2
FROM YourTable
WHERE (((YourTable.Concl) Like "*(*)*(*)*"));





On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl> wrote:
> Hello david,
>
> thanks for your explanation.
>
> You say:
> "A double situation will only result in the first set showing up:
> Concl ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Expr1
> abc(gta)xyz(gta2)lmo ?gta"
>
>
>
> How can i get this result for "A double stuation"
> Concl ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Expr1
> abc(gta)xyz(gta2)lmo ? ? ? ? ? ?gta & gta2
>
> Pedro
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David McAfee" <davidmcafee at gmail.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 7:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )
>
>
> Sorry about that. The Mid statement should read as follows:
>
> Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,(InStr(1,[Concl],")"))-1-(InStr(1,[Concl],"(")))
>
> That gives me:
> PhoneNo ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Expr1
> (818)5551212 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 818
> (626)555-1212 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 626
> (626)5554687 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 626
> aaa (g2Ta)bbbbcccc ? ? ? ? ? ? g2Ta
> aaaaa(g2Ta)cccccccdddddd ? g2Ta
>
> This gives us the 1st (open) parenthesis:
> ?InStr(1,[Concl],"(")
>
> This gives us the 1st closed parenthesis
> ?InStr(1,[Concl],")")
>
>
> This is the length of everything between the two:
> (InStr(1,[Concl],")"))-1-(InStr(1,[Concl],"("))
>
> If you have an closed parenthesis before the first open one, the
> statement will give you an error:
> Concl ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Expr1
> 111)sdsf(ssgs)gsgs #Error
>
> If we replace the "1" in the closed statement, with the 1st open
> statement, we can correct this error.
> So instead of starting at position 1, we will start after the first
> found open parenthesis
> Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,(InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")"))-1-(InStr(1,[Concl],"(")))
>
> Concl ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Expr1
> 111)sdsf(ssgs)gsgs ssgs
>
> A double situation will only result in the first set showing up:
> Concl ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Expr1
> abc(gta)xyz(gta2)lmo gta
>
> Anything like this will be filtered out with the Like statement:
> Concl ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Expr1
> lalala)djjdjsdgs ? ? ? ? #Error
> dfsdsgsg ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? #Error
> (sgsgsgssgs ? ? ? ? #Error
>
> HTH,
> David McAfee
>
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl> wrote:
>> Hello David,
>>
>> the query, almost does what i want.
>>
>> SELECT Concl,
>> Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2)
>> AS Expr1
>> FROM YourTable
>> WHERE (((Concl) Like "*(*)*"));
>>
>> - Only when there are more values with ( ) it only returns the first value
>> - The value that is returned ( ) also gives part of the rest of the concl
>> text after the ) but sometimes it is cut off after a certain length and
>> sometimes not. I Tried to variabel the "compare argument", but no result.
>>
>> for example (what the expression returns)
>>
>> Concl expr1
>> aaa (g2Ta)bbbbcccc g2Ta)bbbbc
>> aaaaa(g2Ta)cccccccdddddd g2Ta)ccccccccdddd
>>
>> i don't see the logic of the lengt of the text part after the ) in expr1
>>
>> How can i solve this?
>>
>> Pedro
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David McAfee" <davidmcafee at gmail.com>
>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )
>>
>>
>> If this looks good:
>> SELECT Concl,
>> Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2)
>> AS Expr1
>> FROM YourTable
>> WHERE (((Concl) Like "*(*)*"));
>>
>> you can do it like this:
>> UPDATE YourTable SET YourTable.fldSelection =
>> Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2)
>> WHERE (((YourTable.Concl) Like "*(*)*"));
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl> wrote:
>>> Dear Group,
>>>
>>> is it possible to filter out text between ( ) in a field [Concl] and
>>> place
>>> only the text between ( ) in a new field [fldSelection], with a query.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Pedro
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From davidmcafee at gmail.com  Mon Dec 14 13:10:48 2009
From: davidmcafee at gmail.com (David McAfee)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:10:48 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A call to the helpdesk
In-Reply-To: <sb2697e6.027@cactus.dk>
References: <sb2697e6.027@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <8786a4c00912141110g1a7f19d2r88afa90c4d574a42@mail.gmail.com>

It was more that they were such jerks with a God complex.

To them, we were measly programmers.

It was a great April Fools Trick none the less.






On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi David
>
> Naughty boys you were!
> Such jokes are charged a beer.
>
> /gustav
>
>
>>>> davidmcafee at gmail.com 14-12-2009 19:24 >>>
> We took a screen shot of our desktop (Taskbar was locked) then moved
> all of the icons to another folder.
> We made the screen shot our default picture/background.
>
> We then moved the task bar to the very top and set to to auto hide.
>
> We then had fun with our Help desk guys :)
>
> We were telling them that nothing was responding to clicks on the desktop.
>
> When they said our box was locked up, we showed them that we could
> alt-tab switch to any open program, click on stuff with the mouse just
> fine :)
>
> Press Window+D and get back to the desktop and nothing responds.
>
> That was fun.
>
> :)
>
> D
>
>
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Dec 14 13:46:40 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:46:40 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] (no subject)
Message-ID: <613015E48C6743D9812250F03E67395D@HAL9005>

Dear List:

 

I am getting an error 3022 - "changes you requested were not successful
because they would product duplicate values..." etc. when the following code
gets to the .Update line.

Dim rstCOCITemp As DAO.Recordset

'add to check-out/check-in table the number of times it's in quantity

Set rstCOCITemp = db.OpenRecordset("Select * FROM tblCheckOutCheckIn")
With rstCOCITemp
    
    .AddNew
    !fldCOCIRADID = argRADID
    !fldCOCIInventoryID = argPackageID
    !fldCOCIInventoryItemID = Null
    !fldCOCICheckOut = Null
    !fldCOCICheckIn = Null
    .Update


fldCOCIRADID, fldCOCIInventoryID, fldCOCIInventoryItemID, are all indexed,
duplicates OK, default value zero.  db is set to Currentdb.

Any ideas why this chunk of code should generate an error 3022?

MTIA

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 

www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 

 

 


From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Mon Dec 14 13:54:30 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:54:30 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <613015E48C6743D9812250F03E67395D@HAL9005>
References: <613015E48C6743D9812250F03E67395D@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <4b26983a.0707d00a.799a.ffff843d@mx.google.com>

You probably have an index on the table with a unique match of fields and
this entry is trying to add a record which matches the  same unique fields
on the index - hence duplicate.

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: 14 December 2009 19:47
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] (no subject)

Dear List:

 

I am getting an error 3022 - "changes you requested were not successful
because they would product duplicate values..." etc. when the following code
gets to the .Update line.

Dim rstCOCITemp As DAO.Recordset

'add to check-out/check-in table the number of times it's in quantity

Set rstCOCITemp = db.OpenRecordset("Select * FROM tblCheckOutCheckIn") With
rstCOCITemp
    
    .AddNew
    !fldCOCIRADID = argRADID
    !fldCOCIInventoryID = argPackageID
    !fldCOCIInventoryItemID = Null
    !fldCOCICheckOut = Null
    !fldCOCICheckIn = Null
    .Update


fldCOCIRADID, fldCOCIInventoryID, fldCOCIInventoryItemID, are all indexed,
duplicates OK, default value zero.  db is set to Currentdb.

Any ideas why this chunk of code should generate an error 3022?

MTIA

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

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From joeo at appoli.com  Mon Dec 14 14:30:26 2009
From: joeo at appoli.com (Joe O'Connell)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 15:30:26 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <613015E48C6743D9812250F03E67395D@HAL9005>
References: <613015E48C6743D9812250F03E67395D@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <1CF20DB644BE124083B31638E5D5C0234A1FC7@exch2.Onappsad.net>

Rocky,

If there is an autonumber field in the table, try to open the table and
add a record manually.  Does the autonumber field try to use a value
that is already in the table?  I have seen this happen a few times.  The
solution is to reset the initial value for the autonumber field to be
one greater than the highest value already in use.

Joe O'Connell

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 2:47 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] (no subject)

Dear List:

 

I am getting an error 3022 - "changes you requested were not successful
because they would product duplicate values..." etc. when the following
code
gets to the .Update line.

Dim rstCOCITemp As DAO.Recordset

'add to check-out/check-in table the number of times it's in quantity

Set rstCOCITemp = db.OpenRecordset("Select * FROM tblCheckOutCheckIn")
With rstCOCITemp
    
    .AddNew
    !fldCOCIRADID = argRADID
    !fldCOCIInventoryID = argPackageID
    !fldCOCIInventoryItemID = Null
    !fldCOCICheckOut = Null
    !fldCOCICheckIn = Null
    .Update


fldCOCIRADID, fldCOCIInventoryID, fldCOCIInventoryItemID, are all
indexed,
duplicates OK, default value zero.  db is set to Currentdb.

Any ideas why this chunk of code should generate an error 3022?

MTIA

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 

www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 

 

 




From dw-murphy at cox.net  Mon Dec 14 14:54:24 2009
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:54:24 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <1CF20DB644BE124083B31638E5D5C0234A1FC7@exch2.Onappsad.net>
References: <613015E48C6743D9812250F03E67395D@HAL9005>
	<1CF20DB644BE124083B31638E5D5C0234A1FC7@exch2.Onappsad.net>
Message-ID: <11B2F5E93B97456996EAEAB06A00F5DB@murphy3234aaf1>

I second this. Access 2002 and 2007 pre service pack would start autonumbers
over in some cases. Check the table. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe O'Connell
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 12:30 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] (no subject)

Rocky,

If there is an autonumber field in the table, try to open the table and add
a record manually.  Does the autonumber field try to use a value that is
already in the table?  I have seen this happen a few times.  The solution is
to reset the initial value for the autonumber field to be one greater than
the highest value already in use.

Joe O'Connell

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 2:47 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] (no subject)

Dear List:

 

I am getting an error 3022 - "changes you requested were not successful
because they would product duplicate values..." etc. when the following code
gets to the .Update line.

Dim rstCOCITemp As DAO.Recordset

'add to check-out/check-in table the number of times it's in quantity

Set rstCOCITemp = db.OpenRecordset("Select * FROM tblCheckOutCheckIn") With
rstCOCITemp
    
    .AddNew
    !fldCOCIRADID = argRADID
    !fldCOCIInventoryID = argPackageID
    !fldCOCIInventoryItemID = Null
    !fldCOCICheckOut = Null
    !fldCOCICheckIn = Null
    .Update


fldCOCIRADID, fldCOCIInventoryID, fldCOCIInventoryItemID, are all indexed,
duplicates OK, default value zero.  db is set to Currentdb.

Any ideas why this chunk of code should generate an error 3022?

MTIA

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 

www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 

 

 


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Dec 14 14:53:30 2009
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:53:30 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] A call to the helpdesk
In-Reply-To: <8786a4c00912141024l1ba07179v44858246a0c24f27@mail.gmail.com>
References: <sb267899.023@cactus.dk>
	<8786a4c00912141024l1ba07179v44858246a0c24f27@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E341DD4DA@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>

How long did it take them to put out a contract on your life??  LOL

Charlotte Foust  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David McAfee
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 10:25 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A call to the helpdesk

We took a screen shot of our desktop (Taskbar was locked) then moved all of the icons to another folder.
We made the screen shot our default picture/background.

We then moved the task bar to the very top and set to to auto hide.

We then had fun with our Help desk guys :)

We were telling them that nothing was responding to clicks on the desktop.

When they said our box was locked up, we showed them that we could alt-tab switch to any open program, click on stuff with the mouse just fine :)

Press Window+D and get back to the desktop and nothing responds.

That was fun.

:)

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From drawbridgej at sympatico.ca  Mon Dec 14 15:06:31 2009
From: drawbridgej at sympatico.ca (Jack and Pat)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:06:31 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] text between ( ) --Pedro
In-Reply-To: <004f01ca7cea$151f1330$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
References: <001f01ca78ea$939c60e0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9><8786a4c00912090958t2d299e17seb1c4809422bd660@mail.gmail.com><000e01ca7ca0$7cee6410$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9><95D07C7764CC47D1BA5FB0A40A8AAD92@AMDXP>
	<004f01ca7cea$151f1330$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <CE815A72567641C4B0DFE8EE9A82311E@AMDXP>

Pedro,
The function I gave was to remove the brackets. I didn't read the details.
Sorry for any inconvenience.

jack

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 1:20 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )

Thanks Jack and Pat,

this is very usefull.

Pedro



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jack and Pat" <drawbridgej at sympatico.ca>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )


> Pedro,
>
> Pedro,
>
> Its early and no one is answering.
>
> Here's a function that will remove  all braces/brackets from a string.
> Watch for line wrap.
>
>
'---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------
> ' Procedure : fExtractBraces
> ' Author    : Jack
> ' Created   : 12/14/2009
> ' Purpose   : To remove "(" and ")" from a string
>
'---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------
> ' Last Modified:
> '
> ' Inputs: String that may contain any number of "(" or ")"
> ' Dependency: N/A
>
'---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---
> '
> Function fExtractBraces(strInString As String) As String
> Dim lngLen As Long, strOut As String
> Dim i As Long, strTmp As String
>   On Error GoTo fExtractBraces_Error
>    lngLen = Len(strInString)
>    strOut = ""
>    For i = 1 To lngLen
>        strTmp = Left$(strInString, 1)
>        strInString = Right$(strInString, lngLen - i)
>        If (Asc(strTmp) <> 40 And Asc(strTmp) <> 41) Then
>             strOut = strOut & strTmp
>        End If
>    Next i
>    fExtractBraces = strOut
>   On Error GoTo 0
>   Exit Function
> fExtractBraces_Error:
>    MsgBox "Error " & Err.number & " (" & Err.Description & ") in procedure
> fExtractBraces"
> End Function
>
> Here is a test procedure
>
> Sub Pedro()
> Dim x As String
> x = "abcd(rst)xyz(abf)"
> Debug.Print x
> Debug.Print fExtractBraces(x)
> End Sub
>
>
> With result:
> abcd(rst)xyz(abf)
> abcdrstxyzabf
>
>
>
> I've also tried it in SQL query on one of my tables:
>
> Sub Pedro1()
> Dim sql As String
> Dim x As String
> x = "abcd(rst)xyz(abf)"
> Debug.Print x
> Debug.Print fExtractBraces(x)
> '
> 'test  using sql query
>
> Dim db As DAO.Database
> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
> Set db = CurrentDb
> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select petname,fextractbraces(petname) from 
> pet")
> Do While Not rs.EOF
> Debug.Print rs!petname & "..." & fExtractBraces(rs!petname)
> rs.MoveNext
> Loop
> '
> '  Update the petname
> Dim UpdateText As String
> UpdateText = "Update pet Set petname = fExtractBraces(petname) " _
> & " where petname like '*(*' "
> db.Execute UpdateText, dbFailOnError
>
> End Sub
>
>
> With results:
> Fluffy...Fluffy
> Puffy...Puffy
> accde(ew)43wj(d)...accdeew43wjd
>
> Then after executing the Update statement
>
> Pet_Id PetName     PetOwner
> 003 Fluffy                   O'Keefe
> 006 Puffy                   O'Keefe
> 009 accdeew43wjd     Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 4:33 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )
>
> Hello David,
>
> the query, almost does what i want.
>
> SELECT Concl,
>
Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2
> )
> AS Expr1
> FROM YourTable
> WHERE (((Concl) Like "*(*)*"));
>
> - Only when there are more values with ( ) it only returns the first value
> - The value that is returned ( ) also gives part of the rest of the concl
> text after the ) but sometimes it is cut off after a certain length and
> sometimes not. I Tried to variabel the "compare argument", but no result.
>
> for example (what the expression returns)
>
> Concl                                            expr1
> aaa (g2Ta)bbbbcccc                      g2Ta)bbbbc
> aaaaa(g2Ta)cccccccdddddd          g2Ta)ccccccccdddd
>
> i don't see the logic of the lengt of the text part after the ) in expr1
>
> How can i solve this?
>
> Pedro
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David McAfee" <davidmcafee at gmail.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )
>
>
> If this looks good:
> SELECT Concl,
>
Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2
> )
> AS Expr1
> FROM YourTable
> WHERE (((Concl) Like "*(*)*"));
>
> you can do it like this:
> UPDATE YourTable SET YourTable.fldSelection =
>
Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2
> )
> WHERE (((YourTable.Concl) Like "*(*)*"));
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl> wrote:
>> Dear Group,
>>
>> is it possible to filter out text between ( ) in a field [Concl] and 
>> place
>
>> only the text between ( ) in a new field [fldSelection], with a query.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Pedro
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Dec 14 15:21:08 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:21:08 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <1CF20DB644BE124083B31638E5D5C0234A1FC7@exch2.Onappsad.net>
References: <613015E48C6743D9812250F03E67395D@HAL9005>
	<1CF20DB644BE124083B31638E5D5C0234A1FC7@exch2.Onappsad.net>
Message-ID: <106407FC943A43F4B1EE7BA1F25C81D7@HAL9005>

Joe:

I added a record manually with the same data as the preceding record - no
problem there. The autonumber field incremented normally.  But I could try
your suggestion.  How do you reset the autonumber field to be one greater
than the highest value already in use?

TIA

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe O'Connell
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 12:30 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] (no subject)

Rocky,

If there is an autonumber field in the table, try to open the table and add
a record manually.  Does the autonumber field try to use a value that is
already in the table?  I have seen this happen a few times.  The solution is
to reset the initial value for the autonumber field to be one greater than
the highest value already in use.

Joe O'Connell

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 2:47 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] (no subject)

Dear List:

 

I am getting an error 3022 - "changes you requested were not successful
because they would product duplicate values..." etc. when the following code
gets to the .Update line.

Dim rstCOCITemp As DAO.Recordset

'add to check-out/check-in table the number of times it's in quantity

Set rstCOCITemp = db.OpenRecordset("Select * FROM tblCheckOutCheckIn") With
rstCOCITemp
    
    .AddNew
    !fldCOCIRADID = argRADID
    !fldCOCIInventoryID = argPackageID
    !fldCOCIInventoryItemID = Null
    !fldCOCICheckOut = Null
    !fldCOCICheckIn = Null
    .Update


fldCOCIRADID, fldCOCIInventoryID, fldCOCIInventoryItemID, are all indexed,
duplicates OK, default value zero.  db is set to Currentdb.

Any ideas why this chunk of code should generate an error 3022?

MTIA

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

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From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Dec 14 15:28:56 2009
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:28:56 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] text between ( ) --Pedro
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	<CE815A72567641C4B0DFE8EE9A82311E@AMDXP>
Message-ID: <003901ca7d04$717c1960$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Jack,

doesn't matter.
This was also usefull.
Normaly i use the replace button.
But this function is a better way for me to automate that .

Pedro



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jack and Pat" <drawbridgej at sympatico.ca>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( ) --Pedro


> Pedro,
> The function I gave was to remove the brackets. I didn't read the details.
> Sorry for any inconvenience.
>
> jack
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 1:20 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )
>
> Thanks Jack and Pat,
>
> this is very usefull.
>
> Pedro
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jack and Pat" <drawbridgej at sympatico.ca>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 3:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )
>
>
>> Pedro,
>>
>> Pedro,
>>
>> Its early and no one is answering.
>>
>> Here's a function that will remove  all braces/brackets from a string.
>> Watch for line wrap.
>>
>>
> '---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ------------
>> ' Procedure : fExtractBraces
>> ' Author    : Jack
>> ' Created   : 12/14/2009
>> ' Purpose   : To remove "(" and ")" from a string
>>
> '---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ------------
>> ' Last Modified:
>> '
>> ' Inputs: String that may contain any number of "(" or ")"
>> ' Dependency: N/A
>>
> '---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ---
>> '
>> Function fExtractBraces(strInString As String) As String
>> Dim lngLen As Long, strOut As String
>> Dim i As Long, strTmp As String
>>   On Error GoTo fExtractBraces_Error
>>    lngLen = Len(strInString)
>>    strOut = ""
>>    For i = 1 To lngLen
>>        strTmp = Left$(strInString, 1)
>>        strInString = Right$(strInString, lngLen - i)
>>        If (Asc(strTmp) <> 40 And Asc(strTmp) <> 41) Then
>>             strOut = strOut & strTmp
>>        End If
>>    Next i
>>    fExtractBraces = strOut
>>   On Error GoTo 0
>>   Exit Function
>> fExtractBraces_Error:
>>    MsgBox "Error " & Err.number & " (" & Err.Description & ") in 
>> procedure
>> fExtractBraces"
>> End Function
>>
>> Here is a test procedure
>>
>> Sub Pedro()
>> Dim x As String
>> x = "abcd(rst)xyz(abf)"
>> Debug.Print x
>> Debug.Print fExtractBraces(x)
>> End Sub
>>
>>
>> With result:
>> abcd(rst)xyz(abf)
>> abcdrstxyzabf
>>
>>
>>
>> I've also tried it in SQL query on one of my tables:
>>
>> Sub Pedro1()
>> Dim sql As String
>> Dim x As String
>> x = "abcd(rst)xyz(abf)"
>> Debug.Print x
>> Debug.Print fExtractBraces(x)
>> '
>> 'test  using sql query
>>
>> Dim db As DAO.Database
>> Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
>> Set db = CurrentDb
>> Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("Select petname,fextractbraces(petname) from
>> pet")
>> Do While Not rs.EOF
>> Debug.Print rs!petname & "..." & fExtractBraces(rs!petname)
>> rs.MoveNext
>> Loop
>> '
>> '  Update the petname
>> Dim UpdateText As String
>> UpdateText = "Update pet Set petname = fExtractBraces(petname) " _
>> & " where petname like '*(*' "
>> db.Execute UpdateText, dbFailOnError
>>
>> End Sub
>>
>>
>> With results:
>> Fluffy...Fluffy
>> Puffy...Puffy
>> accde(ew)43wj(d)...accdeew43wjd
>>
>> Then after executing the Update statement
>>
>> Pet_Id PetName     PetOwner
>> 003 Fluffy                   O'Keefe
>> 006 Puffy                   O'Keefe
>> 009 accdeew43wjd     Jim
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Janssen
>> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 4:33 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )
>>
>> Hello David,
>>
>> the query, almost does what i want.
>>
>> SELECT Concl,
>>
> Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2
>> )
>> AS Expr1
>> FROM YourTable
>> WHERE (((Concl) Like "*(*)*"));
>>
>> - Only when there are more values with ( ) it only returns the first 
>> value
>> - The value that is returned ( ) also gives part of the rest of the concl
>> text after the ) but sometimes it is cut off after a certain length and
>> sometimes not. I Tried to variabel the "compare argument", but no result.
>>
>> for example (what the expression returns)
>>
>> Concl                                            expr1
>> aaa (g2Ta)bbbbcccc                      g2Ta)bbbbc
>> aaaaa(g2Ta)cccccccdddddd          g2Ta)ccccccccdddd
>>
>> i don't see the logic of the lengt of the text part after the ) in expr1
>>
>> How can i solve this?
>>
>> Pedro
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "David McAfee" <davidmcafee at gmail.com>
>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )
>>
>>
>> If this looks good:
>> SELECT Concl,
>>
> Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2
>> )
>> AS Expr1
>> FROM YourTable
>> WHERE (((Concl) Like "*(*)*"));
>>
>> you can do it like this:
>> UPDATE YourTable SET YourTable.fldSelection =
>>
> Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2
>> )
>> WHERE (((YourTable.Concl) Like "*(*)*"));
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl> wrote:
>>> Dear Group,
>>>
>>> is it possible to filter out text between ( ) in a field [Concl] and
>>> place
>>
>>> only the text between ( ) in a new field [fldSelection], with a query.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Pedro
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From pedro at plex.nl  Mon Dec 14 15:29:27 2009
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:29:27 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] text between ( )
References: <001f01ca78ea$939c60e0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9><8786a4c00912090958t2d299e17seb1c4809422bd660@mail.gmail.com><000e01ca7ca0$7cee6410$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9><8786a4c00912141007x2382c5c8s1bc8feec879f4805@mail.gmail.com><005601ca7cea$86f75cb0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
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Hello David,

thanks again.

Pedro


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To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
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Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )


Just off the top of my head, I would run a second query to catch those.

The Like statement would have to be like this:
Like "*(*)*(*)*"


This select statement should get you going in the right direction,
look at the "Solution2" expression:
SELECT YourTable.Concl,
Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,(InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")"))-1-(InStr(1,[Concl],"(")))
AS Solution1, InStr(1,[Concl],"(") AS firstOpenPar,
InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")") AS firstClosepar,
InStr([firstOpenPar]+1,[Concl],"(") AS 2ndOpenPar,
InStr(InStr([2ndOpenPar],[Concl],"("),[Concl],")") AS 2ndClosepar,
Mid([Concl],[2ndOpenPar]+1,[2ndClosepar]-1-[2ndOpenPar]) AS Solution2
FROM YourTable
WHERE (((YourTable.Concl) Like "*(*)*(*)*"));





On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl> wrote:
> Hello david,
>
> thanks for your explanation.
>
> You say:
> "A double situation will only result in the first set showing up:
> Concl Expr1
> abc(gta)xyz(gta2)lmo gta"
>
>
>
> How can i get this result for "A double stuation"
> Concl Expr1
> abc(gta)xyz(gta2)lmo gta & gta2
>
> Pedro
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David McAfee" <davidmcafee at gmail.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 7:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )
>
>
> Sorry about that. The Mid statement should read as follows:
>
> Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,(InStr(1,[Concl],")"))-1-(InStr(1,[Concl],"(")))
>
> That gives me:
> PhoneNo Expr1
> (818)5551212 818
> (626)555-1212 626
> (626)5554687 626
> aaa (g2Ta)bbbbcccc g2Ta
> aaaaa(g2Ta)cccccccdddddd g2Ta
>
> This gives us the 1st (open) parenthesis:
> InStr(1,[Concl],"(")
>
> This gives us the 1st closed parenthesis
> InStr(1,[Concl],")")
>
>
> This is the length of everything between the two:
> (InStr(1,[Concl],")"))-1-(InStr(1,[Concl],"("))
>
> If you have an closed parenthesis before the first open one, the
> statement will give you an error:
> Concl Expr1
> 111)sdsf(ssgs)gsgs #Error
>
> If we replace the "1" in the closed statement, with the 1st open
> statement, we can correct this error.
> So instead of starting at position 1, we will start after the first
> found open parenthesis
> Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,(InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")"))-1-(InStr(1,[Concl],"(")))
>
> Concl Expr1
> 111)sdsf(ssgs)gsgs ssgs
>
> A double situation will only result in the first set showing up:
> Concl Expr1
> abc(gta)xyz(gta2)lmo gta
>
> Anything like this will be filtered out with the Like statement:
> Concl Expr1
> lalala)djjdjsdgs #Error
> dfsdsgsg #Error
> (sgsgsgssgs #Error
>
> HTH,
> David McAfee
>
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl> wrote:
>> Hello David,
>>
>> the query, almost does what i want.
>>
>> SELECT Concl,
>> Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2)
>> AS Expr1
>> FROM YourTable
>> WHERE (((Concl) Like "*(*)*"));
>>
>> - Only when there are more values with ( ) it only returns the first 
>> value
>> - The value that is returned ( ) also gives part of the rest of the concl
>> text after the ) but sometimes it is cut off after a certain length and
>> sometimes not. I Tried to variabel the "compare argument", but no result.
>>
>> for example (what the expression returns)
>>
>> Concl expr1
>> aaa (g2Ta)bbbbcccc g2Ta)bbbbc
>> aaaaa(g2Ta)cccccccdddddd g2Ta)ccccccccdddd
>>
>> i don't see the logic of the lengt of the text part after the ) in expr1
>>
>> How can i solve this?
>>
>> Pedro
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David McAfee" <davidmcafee at gmail.com>
>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )
>>
>>
>> If this looks good:
>> SELECT Concl,
>> Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2)
>> AS Expr1
>> FROM YourTable
>> WHERE (((Concl) Like "*(*)*"));
>>
>> you can do it like this:
>> UPDATE YourTable SET YourTable.fldSelection =
>> Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2)
>> WHERE (((YourTable.Concl) Like "*(*)*"));
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl> wrote:
>>> Dear Group,
>>>
>>> is it possible to filter out text between ( ) in a field [Concl] and
>>> place
>>> only the text between ( ) in a new field [fldSelection], with a query.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Pedro
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Dec 14 15:31:32 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:31:32 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <106407FC943A43F4B1EE7BA1F25C81D7@HAL9005>
References: <613015E48C6743D9812250F03E67395D@HAL9005><1CF20DB644BE124083B31638E5D5C0234A1FC7@exch2.Onappsad.net>
	<106407FC943A43F4B1EE7BA1F25C81D7@HAL9005>
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Oddly, adding the record manually seemed to have 'fixed' the problem.  Odd. 

Rocky
 

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Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 1:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] (no subject)

Joe:

I added a record manually with the same data as the preceding record - no
problem there. The autonumber field incremented normally.  But I could try
your suggestion.  How do you reset the autonumber field to be one greater
than the highest value already in use?

TIA

Rocky


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 12:30 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] (no subject)

Rocky,

If there is an autonumber field in the table, try to open the table and add
a record manually.  Does the autonumber field try to use a value that is
already in the table?  I have seen this happen a few times.  The solution is
to reset the initial value for the autonumber field to be one greater than
the highest value already in use.

Joe O'Connell

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 2:47 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] (no subject)

Dear List:

 

I am getting an error 3022 - "changes you requested were not successful
because they would product duplicate values..." etc. when the following code
gets to the .Update line.

Dim rstCOCITemp As DAO.Recordset

'add to check-out/check-in table the number of times it's in quantity

Set rstCOCITemp = db.OpenRecordset("Select * FROM tblCheckOutCheckIn") With
rstCOCITemp
    
    .AddNew
    !fldCOCIRADID = argRADID
    !fldCOCIInventoryID = argPackageID
    !fldCOCIInventoryItemID = Null
    !fldCOCICheckOut = Null
    !fldCOCICheckIn = Null
    .Update


fldCOCIRADID, fldCOCIInventoryID, fldCOCIInventoryItemID, are all indexed,
duplicates OK, default value zero.  db is set to Currentdb.

Any ideas why this chunk of code should generate an error 3022?

MTIA

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Mon Dec 14 15:36:47 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:36:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A call to the helpdesk
References: <sb267899.023@cactus.dk><8786a4c00912141024l1ba07179v44858246a0c24f27@mail.gmail.com>
	<AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E341DD4DA@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
Message-ID: <D56645421FF14EF29D7A4E5A8A2A4582@SusanOne>

Sick... just sick... ;) What's the matter, don't you like your helpdesk 
guys?????

Susan H.

> We took a screen shot of our desktop (Taskbar was locked) then moved all 
> of the icons to another folder.
> We made the screen shot our default picture/background.



From davidmcafee at gmail.com  Mon Dec 14 16:22:09 2009
From: davidmcafee at gmail.com (David McAfee)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:22:09 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A call to the helpdesk
In-Reply-To: <D56645421FF14EF29D7A4E5A8A2A4582@SusanOne>
References: <sb267899.023@cactus.dk>
	<8786a4c00912141024l1ba07179v44858246a0c24f27@mail.gmail.com>
	<AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E341DD4DA@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
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Message-ID: <8786a4c00912141422k70222ccdh1096e258362c976f@mail.gmail.com>

That's not worse than the time that we put signs and yellow tape up in
one bathroom stall locked the other stall after stuffing some legs and
shoes.

One guy that sits outside the restroom started to worry because he had
to go and every time he went in to check the same shoes were there.

The next day he was telling us that he swore he saw the feet move. :)



On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sick... just sick... ;) What's the matter, don't you like your helpdesk
> guys?????
>
> Susan H.
>
>> We took a screen shot of our desktop (Taskbar was locked) then moved all
>> of the icons to another folder.
>> We made the screen shot our default picture/background.
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From Darryl.Collins at anz.com  Mon Dec 14 16:35:44 2009
From: Darryl.Collins at anz.com (Collins, Darryl)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:35:44 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A call to the helpdesk
In-Reply-To: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E341DD2F1@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
Message-ID: <6DC4725FDCDD72428D6114F1B6CC6E8101688CCF@EXUAU020HWT110.oceania.corp.anz.com>



"She had been playing with her system settings"

Hahahaha!  And this is often the source of the problem.  
Years and years ago I was stuffing around with the OS Language setting
at work and changed it from English to something else thinking it would
be amusing and simple to change back.
Naturally I overlooked the (obvious) fact that I couldn't change it back
again as I could no longer read the menus or instructions on the screen.
Hmmmm... Tech support at work were NOT impressed ;)

Laaah de daaah... Who?  Me???......



 

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Foust
Sent: Tuesday, 15 December 2009 3:14 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A call to the helpdesk

I got a frantic call one day from a user who waiked, "I've lost my
buttons!"  After I finished rolling on the floor, I went to look at her
setup.  She had been playing with her system settings.  Turns out she
had changed the text forecolor color to the same as the background.  She
couldn't read the text on the buttons AND when she opened Word, she
couldn't read her documents.  Yes, I got a call about that too.

Charlotte Foust

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From dbdoug at gmail.com  Mon Dec 14 22:02:28 2009
From: dbdoug at gmail.com (Doug Steele)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:02:28 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A call to the helpdesk
In-Reply-To: <6DC4725FDCDD72428D6114F1B6CC6E8101688CCF@EXUAU020HWT110.oceania.corp.anz.com>
References: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E341DD2F1@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
	<6DC4725FDCDD72428D6114F1B6CC6E8101688CCF@EXUAU020HWT110.oceania.corp.anz.com>
Message-ID: <4dd71a0c0912142002q637e69d7qc3f0bb13284260f1@mail.gmail.com>

As both Technical support and the only database programmer in a 20 person
company, I gradually learned humility.  Especially after I deleted the
entire accounting system data and spent a month rebuilding it from paper
reports in the evening.

And then there was the time we we working on a tight deadline to get the
year end results finished.  I had the only copy of the final database on a 5
1/4" floppy.  I proudly rushed into the accountant's office and inserted the
diskette - right into the crack between the two diskette drives!  It worked
fine once I had dismantled the computer case and retrieved it.

Doug

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Collins, Darryl <Darryl.Collins at anz.com>wrote:

>
>
> "She had been playing with her system settings"
>
> Hahahaha!  And this is often the source of the problem.
> Years and years ago I was stuffing around with the OS Language setting
> at work and changed it from English to something else thinking it would
> be amusing and simple to change back.
> Naturally I overlooked the (obvious) fact that I couldn't change it back
> again as I could no longer read the menus or instructions on the screen.
> Hmmmm... Tech support at work were NOT impressed ;)
>
> Laaah de daaah... Who?  Me???......
>
>


From joeo at appoli.com  Mon Dec 14 22:23:30 2009
From: joeo at appoli.com (Joe O'Connell)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 23:23:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <2A761082D6074786BFE6F5A1AC27F5E7@HAL9005>
References: <613015E48C6743D9812250F03E67395D@HAL9005><1CF20DB644BE124083B31638E5D5C0234A1FC7@exch2.Onappsad.net><106407FC943A43F4B1EE7BA1F25C81D7@HAL9005>
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Rocky,

It is indeed very strange.  The important thing is that it is fixed and
now working properly.

Although you no longer need  the fix, here is the code that I have used
to reset the seed for the autonumber field.

Public Sub FixEmpID()
    Dim lngSeed As Long
    Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
    Dim strSQL As String
    strSQL = "SELECT Max(tblEmployee.atnEmpID) AS MaxOfatnEmpID FROM
tblEmployee;"
    Set rs = CurrentDb.OpenRecordset(strSQL)
    lngSeed = rs("MaxOfatnEmpID") + 1
    rs.Close
    Set rs = Nothing
    strSQL = "ALTER TABLE tblEmployee ALTER COLUMN atnEmpID COUNTER(" &
lngSeed & ",1)"
    CurrentDb.Execute strSQL
    strSQL = ""
End Sub

Joe O'Connell


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 4:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] (no subject)

Oddly, adding the record manually seemed to have 'fixed' the problem.
Odd. 

Rocky
 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 1:21 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] (no subject)

Joe:

I added a record manually with the same data as the preceding record -
no
problem there. The autonumber field incremented normally.  But I could
try
your suggestion.  How do you reset the autonumber field to be one
greater
than the highest value already in use?

TIA

Rocky


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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe O'Connell
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 12:30 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] (no subject)

Rocky,

If there is an autonumber field in the table, try to open the table and
add
a record manually.  Does the autonumber field try to use a value that is
already in the table?  I have seen this happen a few times.  The
solution is
to reset the initial value for the autonumber field to be one greater
than
the highest value already in use.

Joe O'Connell

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 2:47 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] (no subject)

Dear List:

 

I am getting an error 3022 - "changes you requested were not successful
because they would product duplicate values..." etc. when the following
code
gets to the .Update line.

Dim rstCOCITemp As DAO.Recordset

'add to check-out/check-in table the number of times it's in quantity

Set rstCOCITemp = db.OpenRecordset("Select * FROM tblCheckOutCheckIn")
With
rstCOCITemp
    
    .AddNew
    !fldCOCIRADID = argRADID
    !fldCOCIInventoryID = argPackageID
    !fldCOCIInventoryItemID = Null
    !fldCOCICheckOut = Null
    !fldCOCICheckIn = Null
    .Update


fldCOCIRADID, fldCOCIInventoryID, fldCOCIInventoryItemID, are all
indexed,
duplicates OK, default value zero.  db is set to Currentdb.

Any ideas why this chunk of code should generate an error 3022?

MTIA

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 

www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 

 

 


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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Mon Dec 14 19:32:16 2009
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:32:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] (no subject)
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...do you by chance have one of those fields bound on an open form?

William

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 2:46 PM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] (no subject)

> Dear List:
>
>
>
> I am getting an error 3022 - "changes you requested were not successful
> because they would product duplicate values..." etc. when the following 
> code
> gets to the .Update line.
>
> Dim rstCOCITemp As DAO.Recordset
>
> 'add to check-out/check-in table the number of times it's in quantity
>
> Set rstCOCITemp = db.OpenRecordset("Select * FROM tblCheckOutCheckIn")
> With rstCOCITemp
>
>    .AddNew
>    !fldCOCIRADID = argRADID
>    !fldCOCIInventoryID = argPackageID
>    !fldCOCIInventoryItemID = Null
>    !fldCOCICheckOut = Null
>    !fldCOCICheckIn = Null
>    .Update
>
>
> fldCOCIRADID, fldCOCIInventoryID, fldCOCIInventoryItemID, are all indexed,
> duplicates OK, default value zero.  db is set to Currentdb.
>
> Any ideas why this chunk of code should generate an error 3022?
>
> MTIA
>
>
>
> Rocky Smolin
>
> Beach Access Software
>
> 858-259-4334
>
> www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/>
>
> www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Dec 15 00:13:55 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:13:55 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <1CF20DB644BE124083B31638E5D5C0234A1FCE@exch2.Onappsad.net>
References: <613015E48C6743D9812250F03E67395D@HAL9005><1CF20DB644BE124083B31638E5D5C0234A1FC7@exch2.Onappsad.net><106407FC943A43F4B1EE7BA1F25C81D7@HAL9005><2A761082D6074786BFE6F5A1AC27F5E7@HAL9005>
	<1CF20DB644BE124083B31638E5D5C0234A1FCE@exch2.Onappsad.net>
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Well, thanks, Joe.  I'll keep it in the kit.  I have a feeling I haven't
heard the last of this one.

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe O'Connell
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 8:24 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] (no subject)

Rocky,

It is indeed very strange.  The important thing is that it is fixed and now
working properly.

Although you no longer need  the fix, here is the code that I have used to
reset the seed for the autonumber field.

Public Sub FixEmpID()
    Dim lngSeed As Long
    Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
    Dim strSQL As String
    strSQL = "SELECT Max(tblEmployee.atnEmpID) AS MaxOfatnEmpID FROM
tblEmployee;"
    Set rs = CurrentDb.OpenRecordset(strSQL)
    lngSeed = rs("MaxOfatnEmpID") + 1
    rs.Close
    Set rs = Nothing
    strSQL = "ALTER TABLE tblEmployee ALTER COLUMN atnEmpID COUNTER(" &
lngSeed & ",1)"
    CurrentDb.Execute strSQL
    strSQL = ""
End Sub

Joe O'Connell


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 4:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] (no subject)

Oddly, adding the record manually seemed to have 'fixed' the problem.
Odd. 

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 1:21 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] (no subject)

Joe:

I added a record manually with the same data as the preceding record - no
problem there. The autonumber field incremented normally.  But I could try
your suggestion.  How do you reset the autonumber field to be one greater
than the highest value already in use?

TIA

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe O'Connell
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 12:30 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] (no subject)

Rocky,

If there is an autonumber field in the table, try to open the table and add
a record manually.  Does the autonumber field try to use a value that is
already in the table?  I have seen this happen a few times.  The solution is
to reset the initial value for the autonumber field to be one greater than
the highest value already in use.

Joe O'Connell

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 2:47 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] (no subject)

Dear List:

 

I am getting an error 3022 - "changes you requested were not successful
because they would product duplicate values..." etc. when the following code
gets to the .Update line.

Dim rstCOCITemp As DAO.Recordset

'add to check-out/check-in table the number of times it's in quantity

Set rstCOCITemp = db.OpenRecordset("Select * FROM tblCheckOutCheckIn") With
rstCOCITemp
    
    .AddNew
    !fldCOCIRADID = argRADID
    !fldCOCIInventoryID = argPackageID
    !fldCOCIInventoryItemID = Null
    !fldCOCICheckOut = Null
    !fldCOCICheckIn = Null
    .Update


fldCOCIRADID, fldCOCIInventoryID, fldCOCIInventoryItemID, are all indexed,
duplicates OK, default value zero.  db is set to Currentdb.

Any ideas why this chunk of code should generate an error 3022?

MTIA

 

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 

www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 

 

 


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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Dec 15 00:22:35 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:22:35 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] (no subject)
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	<020045E76E9549169C52168F8930C3B4@jislaptopdev>
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Just checked - none of those fields on the form or sub-forms.

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 5:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] (no subject)

...do you by chance have one of those fields bound on an open form?

William

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 2:46 PM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] (no subject)

> Dear List:
>
>
>
> I am getting an error 3022 - "changes you requested were not 
> successful because they would product duplicate values..." etc. when 
> the following code gets to the .Update line.
>
> Dim rstCOCITemp As DAO.Recordset
>
> 'add to check-out/check-in table the number of times it's in quantity
>
> Set rstCOCITemp = db.OpenRecordset("Select * FROM tblCheckOutCheckIn") 
> With rstCOCITemp
>
>    .AddNew
>    !fldCOCIRADID = argRADID
>    !fldCOCIInventoryID = argPackageID
>    !fldCOCIInventoryItemID = Null
>    !fldCOCICheckOut = Null
>    !fldCOCICheckIn = Null
>    .Update
>
>
> fldCOCIRADID, fldCOCIInventoryID, fldCOCIInventoryItemID, are all 
> indexed, duplicates OK, default value zero.  db is set to Currentdb.
>
> Any ideas why this chunk of code should generate an error 3022?
>
> MTIA
>
>
>
> Rocky Smolin
>
> Beach Access Software
>
> 858-259-4334
>
> www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/>
>
> www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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From adtp at airtelmail.in  Tue Dec 15 11:42:02 2009
From: adtp at airtelmail.in (A.D. Tejpal)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:12:02 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] text between ( )
References: <001f01ca78ea$939c60e0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9><8786a4c00912090958t2d299e17seb1c4809422bd660@mail.gmail.com><000e01ca7ca0$7cee6410$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9><8786a4c00912141007x2382c5c8s1bc8feec879f4805@mail.gmail.com><005601ca7cea$86f75cb0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9><8786a4c00912141106u2b96cd21u1641ae6527f1eb7b@mail.gmail.com>
	<004001ca7d04$838fc8e0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <002601ca7dae$779bc840$3701a8c0@adtpc>

Pedro,

    For extracting & merging contents of multiple sets of ( ) occurring in source string, you could use following update query:

Sample update query:
======================================
UPDATE MyTable SET fldSelection = Fn_GetDataInBrackets([Concl]);
======================================

    Fn_GetDataInBrackets() as given below, is a user defined function.

Best wishes,
A.D. Tejpal
------------

' Code in general module
'======================================
Function Fn_GetDataInBrackets( _
            InputString As String) As String
    Dim Rtv As Variant, Cnt As Long
    Dim Txt As String, SubTxt As String
    Dim Pos As Long
    
    Txt = ""
    Rtv = Split(InputString, "(")
    If UBound(Rtv) > 0 Then
        For Cnt = 0 To UBound(Rtv)
            SubTxt = Rtv(Cnt)
            Pos = InStr(SubTxt, ")")
            If Pos > 1 Then
                Txt = Txt & Left(SubTxt, Pos - 1)
            End If
        Next
    End If
    
    Fn_GetDataInBrackets = Txt
End Function
'======================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Pedro Janssen 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 02:59
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )


  Hello David,

  thanks again.

  Pedro


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "David McAfee" <davidmcafee at gmail.com>
  To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
  <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 8:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )

  Just off the top of my head, I would run a second query to catch those.

  The Like statement would have to be like this:
  Like "*(*)*(*)*"

  This select statement should get you going in the right direction,
  look at the "Solution2" expression:
  SELECT YourTable.Concl,
  Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,(InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")"))-1-(InStr(1,[Concl],"(")))
  AS Solution1, InStr(1,[Concl],"(") AS firstOpenPar,
  InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")") AS firstClosepar,
  InStr([firstOpenPar]+1,[Concl],"(") AS 2ndOpenPar,
  InStr(InStr([2ndOpenPar],[Concl],"("),[Concl],")") AS 2ndClosepar,
  Mid([Concl],[2ndOpenPar]+1,[2ndClosepar]-1-[2ndOpenPar]) AS Solution2
  FROM YourTable
  WHERE (((YourTable.Concl) Like "*(*)*(*)*"));

  On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl> wrote:
  > Hello david,
  >
  > thanks for your explanation.
  >
  > You say:
  > "A double situation will only result in the first set showing up:
  > Concl Expr1
  > abc(gta)xyz(gta2)lmo gta"
  >
  > How can i get this result for "A double stuation"
  > Concl Expr1
  > abc(gta)xyz(gta2)lmo gta & gta2
  >
  > Pedro
  >
  >
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: "David McAfee" <davidmcafee at gmail.com>
  > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
  > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 7:07 PM
  > Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )
  >
  > Sorry about that. The Mid statement should read as follows:
  >
  > Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,(InStr(1,[Concl],")"))-1-(InStr(1,[Concl],"(")))
  >
  > That gives me:
  > PhoneNo Expr1
  > (818)5551212 818
  > (626)555-1212 626
  > (626)5554687 626
  > aaa (g2Ta)bbbbcccc g2Ta
  > aaaaa(g2Ta)cccccccdddddd g2Ta
  >
  > This gives us the 1st (open) parenthesis:
  > InStr(1,[Concl],"(")
  >
  > This gives us the 1st closed parenthesis
  > InStr(1,[Concl],")")
  >
  >
  > This is the length of everything between the two:
  > (InStr(1,[Concl],")"))-1-(InStr(1,[Concl],"("))
  >
  > If you have an closed parenthesis before the first open one, the
  > statement will give you an error:
  > Concl Expr1
  > 111)sdsf(ssgs)gsgs #Error
  >
  > If we replace the "1" in the closed statement, with the 1st open
  > statement, we can correct this error.
  > So instead of starting at position 1, we will start after the first
  > found open parenthesis
  > Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,(InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")"))-1-(InStr(1,[Concl],"(")))
  >
  > Concl Expr1
  > 111)sdsf(ssgs)gsgs ssgs
  >
  > A double situation will only result in the first set showing up:
  > Concl Expr1
  > abc(gta)xyz(gta2)lmo gta
  >
  > Anything like this will be filtered out with the Like statement:
  > Concl Expr1
  > lalala)djjdjsdgs #Error
  > dfsdsgsg #Error
  > (sgsgsgssgs #Error
  >
  > HTH,
  > David McAfee
  >
  > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl> wrote:
  >> Hello David,
  >>
  >> the query, almost does what i want.
  >>
  >> SELECT Concl,
  >> Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2)
  >> AS Expr1
  >> FROM YourTable
  >> WHERE (((Concl) Like "*(*)*"));
  >>
  >> - Only when there are more values with ( ) it only returns the first 
  >> value
  >> - The value that is returned ( ) also gives part of the rest of the concl
  >> text after the ) but sometimes it is cut off after a certain length and
  >> sometimes not. I Tried to variabel the "compare argument", but no result.
  >>
  >> for example (what the expression returns)
  >>
  >> Concl expr1
  >> aaa (g2Ta)bbbbcccc g2Ta)bbbbc
  >> aaaaa(g2Ta)cccccccdddddd g2Ta)ccccccccdddd
  >>
  >> i don't see the logic of the lengt of the text part after the ) in expr1
  >>
  >> How can i solve this?
  >>
  >> Pedro
  >>
  >> ----- Original Message -----
  >> From: "David McAfee" <davidmcafee at gmail.com>
  >> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
  >> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
  >> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:58 PM
  >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )
  >>
  >> If this looks good:
  >> SELECT Concl,
  >> Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2)
  >> AS Expr1
  >> FROM YourTable
  >> WHERE (((Concl) Like "*(*)*"));
  >>
  >> you can do it like this:
  >> UPDATE YourTable SET YourTable.fldSelection =
  >> Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2)
  >> WHERE (((YourTable.Concl) Like "*(*)*"));
  >>
  >> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl> wrote:
  >>> Dear Group,
  >>>
  >>> is it possible to filter out text between ( ) in a field [Concl] and
  >>> place only the text between ( ) in a new field [fldSelection], with a query.
  >>>
  >>> Thanks
  >>>
  >>> Pedro

From davidmcafee at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 12:20:41 2009
From: davidmcafee at gmail.com (David McAfee)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 10:20:41 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] text between ( )
In-Reply-To: <002601ca7dae$779bc840$3701a8c0@adtpc>
References: <001f01ca78ea$939c60e0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
	<8786a4c00912090958t2d299e17seb1c4809422bd660@mail.gmail.com>
	<000e01ca7ca0$7cee6410$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
	<8786a4c00912141007x2382c5c8s1bc8feec879f4805@mail.gmail.com>
	<005601ca7cea$86f75cb0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
	<8786a4c00912141106u2b96cd21u1641ae6527f1eb7b@mail.gmail.com>
	<004001ca7d04$838fc8e0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
	<002601ca7dae$779bc840$3701a8c0@adtpc>
Message-ID: <8786a4c00912151020r700ed971gc7d8f2912d55545f@mail.gmail.com>

I think Pedro mentioned that he had some fields with more than one set
of parenthesis, so they would have to filtered out as the function
concatenates the results (unless that is what he is looking for).

Concl                               Expr1
abc(gta)xyz(gta2)lmo	       gtagta2




On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:42 AM, A.D. Tejpal <adtp at airtelmail.in> wrote:
> Pedro,
>
> ? ?For extracting & merging contents of multiple sets of ( ) occurring in source string, you could use following update query:
>
> Sample update query:
> ======================================
> UPDATE MyTable SET fldSelection = Fn_GetDataInBrackets([Concl]);
> ======================================
>
> ? ?Fn_GetDataInBrackets() as given below, is a user defined function.
>
> Best wishes,
> A.D. Tejpal
> ------------
>
> ' Code in general module
> '======================================
> Function Fn_GetDataInBrackets( _
> ? ? ? ? ? ?InputString As String) As String
> ? ?Dim Rtv As Variant, Cnt As Long
> ? ?Dim Txt As String, SubTxt As String
> ? ?Dim Pos As Long
>
> ? ?Txt = ""
> ? ?Rtv = Split(InputString, "(")
> ? ?If UBound(Rtv) > 0 Then
> ? ? ? ?For Cnt = 0 To UBound(Rtv)
> ? ? ? ? ? ?SubTxt = Rtv(Cnt)
> ? ? ? ? ? ?Pos = InStr(SubTxt, ")")
> ? ? ? ? ? ?If Pos > 1 Then
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Txt = Txt & Left(SubTxt, Pos - 1)
> ? ? ? ? ? ?End If
> ? ? ? ?Next
> ? ?End If
>
> ? ?Fn_GetDataInBrackets = Txt
> End Function
> '======================
>
> ?----- Original Message -----
> ?From: Pedro Janssen
> ?To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> ?Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 02:59
> ?Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )
>
>
> ?Hello David,
>
> ?thanks again.
>
> ?Pedro
>
>
> ?----- Original Message -----
> ?From: "David McAfee" <davidmcafee at gmail.com>
> ?To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> ?<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> ?Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 8:06 PM
> ?Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )
>
> ?Just off the top of my head, I would run a second query to catch those.
>
> ?The Like statement would have to be like this:
> ?Like "*(*)*(*)*"
>
> ?This select statement should get you going in the right direction,
> ?look at the "Solution2" expression:
> ?SELECT YourTable.Concl,
> ?Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,(InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")"))-1-(InStr(1,[Concl],"(")))
> ?AS Solution1, InStr(1,[Concl],"(") AS firstOpenPar,
> ?InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")") AS firstClosepar,
> ?InStr([firstOpenPar]+1,[Concl],"(") AS 2ndOpenPar,
> ?InStr(InStr([2ndOpenPar],[Concl],"("),[Concl],")") AS 2ndClosepar,
> ?Mid([Concl],[2ndOpenPar]+1,[2ndClosepar]-1-[2ndOpenPar]) AS Solution2
> ?FROM YourTable
> ?WHERE (((YourTable.Concl) Like "*(*)*(*)*"));
>
> ?On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl> wrote:
> ?> Hello david,
> ?>
> ?> thanks for your explanation.
> ?>
> ?> You say:
> ?> "A double situation will only result in the first set showing up:
> ?> Concl Expr1
> ?> abc(gta)xyz(gta2)lmo gta"
> ?>
> ?> How can i get this result for "A double stuation"
> ?> Concl Expr1
> ?> abc(gta)xyz(gta2)lmo gta & gta2
> ?>
> ?> Pedro
> ?>
> ?>
> ?> ----- Original Message -----
> ?> From: "David McAfee" <davidmcafee at gmail.com>
> ?> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> ?> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> ?> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 7:07 PM
> ?> Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )
> ?>
> ?> Sorry about that. The Mid statement should read as follows:
> ?>
> ?> Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,(InStr(1,[Concl],")"))-1-(InStr(1,[Concl],"(")))
> ?>
> ?> That gives me:
> ?> PhoneNo Expr1
> ?> (818)5551212 818
> ?> (626)555-1212 626
> ?> (626)5554687 626
> ?> aaa (g2Ta)bbbbcccc g2Ta
> ?> aaaaa(g2Ta)cccccccdddddd g2Ta
> ?>
> ?> This gives us the 1st (open) parenthesis:
> ?> InStr(1,[Concl],"(")
> ?>
> ?> This gives us the 1st closed parenthesis
> ?> InStr(1,[Concl],")")
> ?>
> ?>
> ?> This is the length of everything between the two:
> ?> (InStr(1,[Concl],")"))-1-(InStr(1,[Concl],"("))
> ?>
> ?> If you have an closed parenthesis before the first open one, the
> ?> statement will give you an error:
> ?> Concl Expr1
> ?> 111)sdsf(ssgs)gsgs #Error
> ?>
> ?> If we replace the "1" in the closed statement, with the 1st open
> ?> statement, we can correct this error.
> ?> So instead of starting at position 1, we will start after the first
> ?> found open parenthesis
> ?> Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,(InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")"))-1-(InStr(1,[Concl],"(")))
> ?>
> ?> Concl Expr1
> ?> 111)sdsf(ssgs)gsgs ssgs
> ?>
> ?> A double situation will only result in the first set showing up:
> ?> Concl Expr1
> ?> abc(gta)xyz(gta2)lmo gta
> ?>
> ?> Anything like this will be filtered out with the Like statement:
> ?> Concl Expr1
> ?> lalala)djjdjsdgs #Error
> ?> dfsdsgsg #Error
> ?> (sgsgsgssgs #Error
> ?>
> ?> HTH,
> ?> David McAfee
> ?>
> ?> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl> wrote:
> ?>> Hello David,
> ?>>
> ?>> the query, almost does what i want.
> ?>>
> ?>> SELECT Concl,
> ?>> Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2)
> ?>> AS Expr1
> ?>> FROM YourTable
> ?>> WHERE (((Concl) Like "*(*)*"));
> ?>>
> ?>> - Only when there are more values with ( ) it only returns the first
> ?>> value
> ?>> - The value that is returned ( ) also gives part of the rest of the concl
> ?>> text after the ) but sometimes it is cut off after a certain length and
> ?>> sometimes not. I Tried to variabel the "compare argument", but no result.
> ?>>
> ?>> for example (what the expression returns)
> ?>>
> ?>> Concl expr1
> ?>> aaa (g2Ta)bbbbcccc g2Ta)bbbbc
> ?>> aaaaa(g2Ta)cccccccdddddd g2Ta)ccccccccdddd
> ?>>
> ?>> i don't see the logic of the lengt of the text part after the ) in expr1
> ?>>
> ?>> How can i solve this?
> ?>>
> ?>> Pedro
> ?>>
> ?>> ----- Original Message -----
> ?>> From: "David McAfee" <davidmcafee at gmail.com>
> ?>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> ?>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> ?>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:58 PM
> ?>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )
> ?>>
> ?>> If this looks good:
> ?>> SELECT Concl,
> ?>> Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2)
> ?>> AS Expr1
> ?>> FROM YourTable
> ?>> WHERE (((Concl) Like "*(*)*"));
> ?>>
> ?>> you can do it like this:
> ?>> UPDATE YourTable SET YourTable.fldSelection =
> ?>> Mid([Concl],InStr(1,[Concl],"(")+1,InStr(InStr(1,[Concl],"("),[Concl],")")-2)
> ?>> WHERE (((YourTable.Concl) Like "*(*)*"));
> ?>>
> ?>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl> wrote:
> ?>>> Dear Group,
> ?>>>
> ?>>> is it possible to filter out text between ( ) in a field [Concl] and
> ?>>> place only the text between ( ) in a new field [fldSelection], with a query.
> ?>>>
> ?>>> Thanks
> ?>>>
> ?>>> Pedro
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From kismert at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 14:35:09 2009
From: kismert at gmail.com (Kenneth Ismert)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 14:35:09 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] text between ( )
Message-ID: <7c7841600912151235o6ce5c83aqc38bc29d64dfbefb@mail.gmail.com>

David McAfee:

> ...
> The Like statement would have to be like this:
> Like "*(*)*(*)*"
> ...
>

Well there you go. We're trying to have a serious conversation about pattern
matching, and you're showing us boobies.

PLEASE, try to elevate the level of your discourse ;)

-Ken


From davidmcafee at gmail.com  Tue Dec 15 14:42:45 2009
From: davidmcafee at gmail.com (David McAfee)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:42:45 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] text between ( )
In-Reply-To: <7c7841600912151235o6ce5c83aqc38bc29d64dfbefb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7c7841600912151235o6ce5c83aqc38bc29d64dfbefb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8786a4c00912151242v45cd12b3ka0607fa9b5974adf@mail.gmail.com>

I wondered if anyone else would think the same, or if it was just me. :)


On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Kenneth Ismert <kismert at gmail.com> wrote:
> David McAfee:
>
>> ...
>> The Like statement would have to be like this:
>> Like "*(*)*(*)*"
>> ...
>>
>
> Well there you go. We're trying to have a serious conversation about pattern
> matching, and you're showing us boobies.
>
> PLEASE, try to elevate the level of your discourse ;)
>
> -Ken
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From dkalsow at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 16 10:43:46 2009
From: dkalsow at yahoo.com (Dale Kalsow)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 08:43:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] OutPut to Error
In-Reply-To: <4B22CEB0.8060202@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <213803.29231.qm@web50407.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


In access 2007 I am getting an error - the command or action "output to" isn't availble now.? This is being generated in a marco where I am using the oputput to command.? It works fine on my development pc but not on pcs that are running the runtime version of access 2007 the issues occures.
?
Have anyone seen this?
?
Thanks for everyones help!
?
Dale


      

From jm.hwsn at gmail.com  Wed Dec 16 16:05:36 2009
From: jm.hwsn at gmail.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:05:36 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2007 Treeview Control
Message-ID: <4b2959d3.5744f10a.3536.51bf@mx.google.com>

Has anyone successfully used this control in Access 2007?

I would like to go at least three levels, but the best I have been able to
do is two.

 

Thanks,

Jim

 



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Dec 16 16:20:08 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:20:08 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] windows 7 media center
Message-ID: <4B295D18.7070000@colbyconsulting.com>

Well my Vista Windows Media Center (WMC) finally bit the dust.  Something happened (a SP install I 
suspect) and the codec got trashed (I think) and suddenly WMC no workee - no tv of any kind, already 
recorded or off of the tv card.

As a college student I qualify to buy a copy of Windows 7 for $29 which sounded too good to pass up. 
  And that version supposedly had a much improved MCE.  So I did.  Bought it, and installed it ON A 
30 gb FLASH DRIVE last night.  Finished about 3:30 am.  She workee again.  In the meantime I also 
went from a low power dual core to a medium powered quad core, but twice the ghz rating.  Needless 
to say the Home theater PC flies.  Now if it will just work for a long time with no maintenance.

-- 
John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


From pedro at plex.nl  Wed Dec 16 17:00:13 2009
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:00:13 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] text between ( )
References: <7c7841600912151235o6ce5c83aqc38bc29d64dfbefb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002001ca7ea3$86f347a0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Thanks for all the help and a new statement of Boobies.

Pedro


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kenneth Ismert" <kismert at gmail.com>
To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] text between ( )


> David McAfee:
>
>> ...
>> The Like statement would have to be like this:
>> Like "*(*)*(*)*"
>> ...
>>
>
> Well there you go. We're trying to have a serious conversation about 
> pattern
> matching, and you're showing us boobies.
>
> PLEASE, try to elevate the level of your discourse ;)
>
> -Ken
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu Dec 17 10:48:59 2009
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:48:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OutPut to Error
In-Reply-To: <213803.29231.qm@web50407.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <4B22CEB0.8060202@colbyconsulting.com>
	<213803.29231.qm@web50407.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0912170848r463e3b0bs7ba1b84526d22b88@mail.gmail.com>

I'd change the macro to code first, then try that on the run-time machines.
Go into Design mode on the form in question. Then on the ribbon you'll find
a button that converts macros to code.

hth,
Arthur

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Dale Kalsow <dkalsow at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> In access 2007 I am getting an error - the command or action "output to"
> isn't availble now.  This is being generated in a marco where I am using the
> oputput to command.  It works fine on my development pc but not on pcs that
> are running the runtime version of access 2007 the issues occures.
>
> Have anyone seen this?
>
> Thanks for everyones help!
>
> Dale
>
>
>
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Thu Dec 17 12:06:17 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:06:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT (just a bit) -- Office click shortcuts
Message-ID: <70BCD669712C4E228CA5058E38D77BA6@SusanOne>

I'm looking for double-click and right-click shortcuts in any Office 
application.

This is for an article and I'll give you credit, as always.

Susan H. 



From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Thu Dec 17 12:46:49 2009
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:46:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Try this one again
In-Reply-To: <002001ca7ea3$86f347a0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
References: <7c7841600912151235o6ce5c83aqc38bc29d64dfbefb@mail.gmail.com>
	<002001ca7ea3$86f347a0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <4B2A3648.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>

OK...about a month ago, I asked for help on this, and I did get some...one that seemed really promising...but nothing worked. It has to be easy...something common. I was pulled away from this project, but now, w/the end of the year coming, they want it quick, so I've got a couple of days to finish it. I've already got an idea of how to avoid the problem all together, but it won't be the "proper" way to do it, IMHO. So, I'd like to complete it, how I want to do it.
 
How do I get information from a query, into my form, and thus, if necessary, into my table?
 
I've got a query, which I got help on, from you guys, that works great...as a query. Enter a date and you will get the single value for that date. The SQL for the query is:
 
SELECT TOP 1 tblMileageRate.datDate, tblMileageRate.curMRate
FROM tblMileageRate
WHERE (((tblMileageRate.datDate)<[Date Entered]))
ORDER BY tblMileageRate.datDate DESC;
 
But, I've tried so many ways to do this right from the form, and I cannot get it to work. I looked into A.D.'s example, and I think it has gotten me close...I tried a statement like Me.curMRate.Value = "qryMileageByDate" but this isn't quite right either...says I can't assign a value to this object. 
 
I've already started whipping up a substitute program that avoids any of this stuff, but it is not what I wanted. I want the user to be able to lookup a record and the rates for the date of that record will always be in there.
 
Here is the really dumb thing about it...I've done this before. I wrote a program that did pretty much exactly what I am trying to do. But, that was 4-5 years ago, and I really haven't done much coding in that time.
 
To put the question simply, how do I send a date to a query, from a form, and get back a rate based on that date...this would be the latest entry as of the entered date...basically what the code above does, but via the form?
 
Thank you very much for all the help so far, by the way!
 
John Clark


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Thu Dec 17 12:51:59 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:51:59 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT (just a bit) -- Office click shortcuts
In-Reply-To: <70BCD669712C4E228CA5058E38D77BA6@SusanOne>
References: <70BCD669712C4E228CA5058E38D77BA6@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <F426C7866BAA404F960BC826605A0C69@HAL9005>

Double clicking the join between two tables in a query in Access brings up
the Join Type dialog box. 
Double-clicking a blank spot in the upper portion of the QBE form brings up
the query's property box.
Double-clicking the handles on a label or combo box resizes it to fit the
caption.

Rocky


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:06 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT (just a bit) -- Office click shortcuts

I'm looking for double-click and right-click shortcuts in any Office
application.

This is for an article and I'll give you credit, as always.

Susan H. 

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From Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com  Thu Dec 17 13:20:57 2009
From: Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:20:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT (just a bit) -- Office click shortcuts
In-Reply-To: <70BCD669712C4E228CA5058E38D77BA6@SusanOne>
References: <70BCD669712C4E228CA5058E38D77BA6@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E2CA42D17@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>

In the query design grid, Double-click a table "title bar", selects all the fields, which can then be dragged in one step onto the grid.

In forms and reports, right-click any object and select "Build-Event" takes you directly to the _Click event of the object..

A no-click tip: Hover the mouse over the name of any linked table and the tool tip will show you the name of the table in the back end (which may be different than the linked name) and the path to the back end.

Lambert

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Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:06 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT (just a bit) -- Office click shortcuts

I'm looking for double-click and right-click shortcuts in any Office application.

This is for an article and I'll give you credit, as always.

Susan H. 

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From miscellany at mvps.org  Thu Dec 17 13:42:44 2009
From: miscellany at mvps.org (Steve Schapel)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:42:44 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Try this one again
In-Reply-To: <4B2A3648.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
References: <7c7841600912151235o6ce5c83aqc38bc29d64dfbefb@mail.gmail.com>
	<002001ca7ea3$86f347a0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
	<4B2A3648.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <7764F86EE6BC4687919D156AE825A7E0@stevePC>

John,

If I understand you correctly (which I am not sure of!) this might be what 
you need...
Me.curMRate = DLookup("[curMRate]","qryMileageByDate")

Regards
Steve


--------------------------------------------------
From: "John Clark" <John.Clark at niagaracounty.com>
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 7:46 AM
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Try this one again

> OK...about a month ago, I asked for help on this, and I did get some...one 
> that seemed really promising...but nothing worked. It has to be 
> easy...something common. I was pulled away from this project, but now, 
> w/the end of the year coming, they want it quick, so I've got a couple of 
> days to finish it. I've already got an idea of how to avoid the problem 
> all together, but it won't be the "proper" way to do it, IMHO. So, I'd 
> like to complete it, how I want to do it.
>
> How do I get information from a query, into my form, and thus, if 
> necessary, into my table?
>
> I've got a query, which I got help on, from you guys, that works 
> great...as a query. Enter a date and you will get the single value for 
> that date. The SQL for the query is:
>
> SELECT TOP 1 tblMileageRate.datDate, tblMileageRate.curMRate
> FROM tblMileageRate
> WHERE (((tblMileageRate.datDate)<[Date Entered]))
> ORDER BY tblMileageRate.datDate DESC;
>
> But, I've tried so many ways to do this right from the form, and I cannot 
> get it to work. I looked into A.D.'s example, and I think it has gotten me 
> close...I tried a statement like Me.curMRate.Value = "qryMileageByDate" 
> but this isn't quite right either...says I can't assign a value to this 
> object.
>
> I've already started whipping up a substitute program that avoids any of 
> this stuff, but it is not what I wanted. I want the user to be able to 
> lookup a record and the rates for the date of that record will always be 
> in there.
>
> Here is the really dumb thing about it...I've done this before. I wrote a 
> program that did pretty much exactly what I am trying to do. But, that was 
> 4-5 years ago, and I really haven't done much coding in that time.
>
> To put the question simply, how do I send a date to a query, from a form, 
> and get back a rate based on that date...this would be the latest entry as 
> of the entered date...basically what the code above does, but via the 
> form?
>
> Thank you very much for all the help so far, by the way!
>
> John Clark
 



From DWUTKA at Marlow.com  Thu Dec 17 15:25:10 2009
From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:25:10 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT (just a bit) -- Office click shortcuts
In-Reply-To: <70BCD669712C4E228CA5058E38D77BA6@SusanOne>
References: <70BCD669712C4E228CA5058E38D77BA6@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B20307D490@MIEXCH.Marlow.ii-vi.net>

Don't know many 'click' shortcuts, several keyboard ones.

F6 jumps between the top and bottom portions of a 'sectioned' window, so
in Access, when you create a table in design view, to go from the list
of fields, to the individual field properties, F6 will switch between
them, so you can use the keyboard alone to create a table.

Ctrl-' duplicates the previous record

Ctrl-; puts the current date in a field

Ctrl-: (or Ctrl Shift ;) puts the current time in a field.

And one I just learned a few months ago, which I wish I would have known
a LONG time ago, if you want to lock your desktop, Windows Key - L.  Go
figure.  I remember a few years ago, I had spent hours on the code
behind a form, went to head outside for a break and locked my desktop
out of habbit (which I usually go Ctrl-Alt- Del then enter, because Lock
Desktop is the default option).  However, I hit the del key a hair too
fast, which immediately prompted if I wanted to delete the form I had
just been working on.....which of course my programmed action allowed my
hands to complete the 'enter' process.....AHHHHHHHHHH
@#@%#%&^@#$%!#$^@#$!!@#$$ !

Windows L avoids that nasty goof!

Drew

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To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT (just a bit) -- Office click shortcuts

I'm looking for double-click and right-click shortcuts in any Office 
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This is for an article and I'll give you credit, as always.

Susan H. 

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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Thu Dec 17 15:47:19 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:47:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT (just a bit) -- Office click shortcuts
References: <70BCD669712C4E228CA5058E38D77BA6@SusanOne>
	<A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B20307D490@MIEXCH.Marlow.ii-vi.net>
Message-ID: <A11E23D2D42744ECBB52F3BED1FAEAB3@SusanOne>

if you want to lock your desktop, Windows Key - L.

====How do you unlock it? Surely it isn't a toggle, that would be too 
easy -- Ctrl+Alt+Delete maybe? I'm afraid to try without knowing how to get 
it back! ;)

Susan H. 



From Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com  Thu Dec 17 16:16:04 2009
From: Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:16:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT (just a bit) -- Office click shortcuts
In-Reply-To: <A11E23D2D42744ECBB52F3BED1FAEAB3@SusanOne>
References: <70BCD669712C4E228CA5058E38D77BA6@SusanOne>
	<A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B20307D490@MIEXCH.Marlow.ii-vi.net>
	<A11E23D2D42744ECBB52F3BED1FAEAB3@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E2CA42DB3@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>

Windows displays a dialog telling you the workstation is locked and that Ctl-Alt-Del will unlock, but you have to supply the password.

Check out Windows-D, Window-E and Window-R too.

Lambert

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Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 4:47 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT (just a bit) -- Office click shortcuts

if you want to lock your desktop, Windows Key - L.

====How do you unlock it? Surely it isn't a toggle, that would be too easy -- Ctrl+Alt+Delete maybe? I'm afraid to try without knowing how to get it back! ;)

Susan H. 

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Dec 17 16:17:37 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:17:37 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT (just a bit) -- Office click shortcuts
In-Reply-To: <A11E23D2D42744ECBB52F3BED1FAEAB3@SusanOne>
References: <70BCD669712C4E228CA5058E38D77BA6@SusanOne>,
	<A11E23D2D42744ECBB52F3BED1FAEAB3@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <4B2AAE01.30466.E610CA8@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

"Locking" in this case means showing a login screen and requiring your password to get 
back in.

-- 
Stuart

On 17 Dec 2009 at 16:47, Susan Harkins wrote:

> if you want to lock your desktop, Windows Key - L.
> 
> ====How do you unlock it? Surely it isn't a toggle, that would be too 
> easy -- Ctrl+Alt+Delete maybe? I'm afraid to try without knowing how to get 
> it back! ;)
> 
> Susan H. 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Dec 17 16:26:38 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:26:38 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT (just a bit) -- Office click shortcuts
In-Reply-To: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E2CA42DB3@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
References: <70BCD669712C4E228CA5058E38D77BA6@SusanOne>,
	<A11E23D2D42744ECBB52F3BED1FAEAB3@SusanOne>,
	<B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E2CA42DB3@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
Message-ID: <4B2AB01E.19284.E695146@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

I use D and E all the time, but I keep on forgetting about R :-(

Thanks for reminding me.

Also 
Windows + F, T, M or U

-- 
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On 17 Dec 2009 at 17:16, Heenan, Lambert wrote:

> Windows displays a dialog telling you the workstation is locked and that Ctl-Alt-Del will unlock, but you have to supply the password.
> 
> Check out Windows-D, Window-E and Window-R too.
> 
> Lambert
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 4:47 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT (just a bit) -- Office click shortcuts
> 
> if you want to lock your desktop, Windows Key - L.
> 
> ====How do you unlock it? Surely it isn't a toggle, that would be too easy -- Ctrl+Alt+Delete maybe? I'm afraid to try without knowing how to get it back! ;)
> 
> Susan H. 
> 
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From DWUTKA at Marlow.com  Thu Dec 17 16:32:33 2009
From: DWUTKA at Marlow.com (Drew Wutka)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:32:33 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT (just a bit) -- Office click shortcuts
In-Reply-To: <A11E23D2D42744ECBB52F3BED1FAEAB3@SusanOne>
References: <70BCD669712C4E228CA5058E38D77BA6@SusanOne><A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B20307D490@MIEXCH.Marlow.ii-vi.net>
	<A11E23D2D42744ECBB52F3BED1FAEAB3@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <A5615CBECEC42E4791D7A7C724E1E9B20307D494@MIEXCH.Marlow.ii-vi.net>

For home users this probably isn't something you do very often.  In a
business environment, however, when you are logging into your machine,
'locking' your desktop put's up a locked screen, and to unlock it, it's
just like you were logging in  (Ctrl-Alt-Del, followed by your
password).

If you are on a network with other people, you should be locking your
desktop when you are not at your computer, to prevent people from using
your credentials to do what they want.

Drew

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Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 3:47 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT (just a bit) -- Office click shortcuts

if you want to lock your desktop, Windows Key - L.

====How do you unlock it? Surely it isn't a toggle, that would be too 
easy -- Ctrl+Alt+Delete maybe? I'm afraid to try without knowing how to
get 
it back! ;)

Susan H. 

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From davidmcafee at gmail.com  Thu Dec 17 16:34:42 2009
From: davidmcafee at gmail.com (David McAfee)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:34:42 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT (just a bit) -- Office click shortcuts
In-Reply-To: <4B2AB01E.19284.E695146@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <70BCD669712C4E228CA5058E38D77BA6@SusanOne>
	<A11E23D2D42744ECBB52F3BED1FAEAB3@SusanOne>
	<B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E2CA42DB3@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
	<4B2AB01E.19284.E695146@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <8786a4c00912171434p1621a737sd640ab89a67c2dad@mail.gmail.com>

I use R so much after switching to Vista.


On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Stuart McLachlan
<stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:
> I use D and E all the time, but I keep on forgetting about R :-(
>
> Thanks for reminding me.
>
> Also
> Windows + F, T, M or U
>
> --
> Stuart
>
> On 17 Dec 2009 at 17:16, Heenan, Lambert wrote:
>
>> Windows displays a dialog telling you the workstation is locked and that Ctl-Alt-Del will unlock, but you have to supply the password.
>>
>> Check out Windows-D, Window-E and Window-R too.
>>
>> Lambert


From adtp at airtelmail.in  Fri Dec 18 03:25:54 2009
From: adtp at airtelmail.in (A.D. Tejpal)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:55:54 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Try this one again
References: <7c7841600912151235o6ce5c83aqc38bc29d64dfbefb@mail.gmail.com><002001ca7ea3$86f347a0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
	<4B2A3648.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <002101ca7fc4$41d9c9b0$3701a8c0@adtpc>

John,

    Apparently, you wish to fetch the latest applicable value of curMRate, depending upon the date entered in a form control. 

    Let TxtDate be the name of a text box located on form F_Main. Sample code in AfterUpdate event of TxtDate as given below, would get the required value directly from the table and place it in target text box say TxtMRate.

' Code in form's module
'=============================
Private Sub TxtDate_AfterUpdate()
    Me.TxtMRate = DMax("CurMRate", _
            "tblMileageRate", "datDate <= #" & _
            Format([TxtDate], "mm/dd/yyyy") & "#")
End Sub
'=============================

    Note: 
    Formatting of TxtDate as "mm/dd/yyyy" before concatenation is meant to ensure consistent results even if the local settings for short date happen to be different from U.S. date format.

    If the same value were to be collected from a query similar to qryMileageByDate as included in your post, it would be necessary to incorporate form based parameters in such a query, as shown in sample SQL given below. In such a case, the statement in AfterUpdate event of TxtDate would be:

    Me.TxtMRate = DLookup("curMRate", "qryMileageByDate")

Best wishes,
A.D. Tejpal
------------

qryMileageByDate (Sample Select query)
==================================
SELECT TOP 1 curMRate  
FROM tblMileageRate  
WHERE datDate <= [Forms]![F_Main]![TxtDate]  
ORDER BY datDate DESC;
==================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Clark 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 00:16
  Subject: [AccessD] Try this one again


  OK...about a month ago, I asked for help on this, and I did get some...one that seemed really promising...but nothing worked. It has to be easy...something common. I was pulled away from this project, but now, w/the end of the year coming, they want it quick, so I've got a couple of days to finish it. I've already got an idea of how to avoid the problem all together, but it won't be the "proper" way to do it, IMHO. So, I'd like to complete it, how I want to do it.
   
  How do I get information from a query, into my form, and thus, if necessary, into my table?
   
  I've got a query, which I got help on, from you guys, that works great...as a query. Enter a date and you will get the single value for that date. The SQL for the query is:
   
  SELECT TOP 1 tblMileageRate.datDate, tblMileageRate.curMRate
  FROM tblMileageRate
  WHERE (((tblMileageRate.datDate)<[Date Entered]))
  ORDER BY tblMileageRate.datDate DESC;
   
  But, I've tried so many ways to do this right from the form, and I cannot get it to work. I looked into A.D.'s example, and I think it has gotten me close...I tried a statement like Me.curMRate.Value = "qryMileageByDate" but this isn't quite right either...says I can't assign a value to this object. 
   
  I've already started whipping up a substitute program that avoids any of this stuff, but it is not what I wanted. I want the user to be able to lookup a record and the rates for the date of that record will always be in there.
   
  Here is the really dumb thing about it...I've done this before. I wrote a program that did pretty much exactly what I am trying to do. But, that was 4-5 years ago, and I really haven't done much coding in that time.
   
  To put the question simply, how do I send a date to a query, from a form, and get back a rate based on that date...this would be the latest entry as of the entered date...basically what the code above does, but via the form?
   
  Thank you very much for all the help so far, by the way!
   
  John Clark

From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Fri Dec 18 10:17:56 2009
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:17:56 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Try this one again
In-Reply-To: <002101ca7fc4$41d9c9b0$3701a8c0@adtpc>
References: <7c7841600912151235o6ce5c83aqc38bc29d64dfbefb@mail.gmail.com><002001ca7ea3$86f347a0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
	<4B2A3648.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
	<002101ca7fc4$41d9c9b0$3701a8c0@adtpc>
Message-ID: <4B2B64E3.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>

Well A.D., I think you are officially my hero today! ;o)
 
First of all, as soon as I saw your code...specifically the change to the SQL of the query...I regained my memory. This is exactly what I had done in the past, and I had totally forgotten about it. So, because I had done it that way before, and I am pressed for time, I went this way again...and it worked...for the most part it worked.
 
Now I am on to something I totally did not foresee...something I've never run into before. I am having simple arithmetic problems now
 
(A) The biggest problem...decimals aren't showing up properly. I've got the number type setup as double w/2 decimals, and I am still seeing "0.2" and "15" instead of "15.00"
 
and
 
(B) It doesn't seem to want to perform the addition of the standard fee. The witness gets mileage, based on the going rate, multiplied by their distance, and this is working. But, they also get a stipend of $15.00, and this isn't working right now. 
 
I'm not real worried about this last one...yet...because I'm guessing it is something dumb that I am missing or doing, and I've just got to go back and proof my work for a mistake.

>>> "A.D. Tejpal" <adtp at airtelmail.in> 12/18/2009 4:25 AM >>>
John,

    Apparently, you wish to fetch the latest applicable value of curMRate, depending upon the date entered in a form control. 

    Let TxtDate be the name of a text box located on form F_Main. Sample code in AfterUpdate event of TxtDate as given below, would get the required value directly from the table and place it in target text box say TxtMRate.

' Code in form's module
'=============================
Private Sub TxtDate_AfterUpdate()
    Me.TxtMRate = DMax("CurMRate", _
            "tblMileageRate", "datDate <= #" & _
            Format([TxtDate], "mm/dd/yyyy") & "#")
End Sub
'=============================

    Note: 
    Formatting of TxtDate as "mm/dd/yyyy" before concatenation is meant to ensure consistent results even if the local settings for short date happen to be different from U.S. date format.

    If the same value were to be collected from a query similar to qryMileageByDate as included in your post, it would be necessary to incorporate form based parameters in such a query, as shown in sample SQL given below. In such a case, the statement in AfterUpdate event of TxtDate would be:

    Me.TxtMRate = DLookup("curMRate", "qryMileageByDate")

Best wishes,
A.D. Tejpal
------------

qryMileageByDate (Sample Select query)
==================================
SELECT TOP 1 curMRate  
FROM tblMileageRate  
WHERE datDate <= [Forms]![F_Main]![TxtDate]  
ORDER BY datDate DESC;
==================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Clark 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 00:16
  Subject: [AccessD] Try this one again


  OK...about a month ago, I asked for help on this, and I did get some...one that seemed really promising...but nothing worked. It has to be easy...something common. I was pulled away from this project, but now, w/the end of the year coming, they want it quick, so I've got a couple of days to finish it. I've already got an idea of how to avoid the problem all together, but it won't be the "proper" way to do it, IMHO. So, I'd like to complete it, how I want to do it.
   
  How do I get information from a query, into my form, and thus, if necessary, into my table?
   
  I've got a query, which I got help on, from you guys, that works great...as a query. Enter a date and you will get the single value for that date. The SQL for the query is:
   
  SELECT TOP 1 tblMileageRate.datDate, tblMileageRate.curMRate
  FROM tblMileageRate
  WHERE (((tblMileageRate.datDate)<[Date Entered]))
  ORDER BY tblMileageRate.datDate DESC;
   
  But, I've tried so many ways to do this right from the form, and I cannot get it to work. I looked into A.D.'s example, and I think it has gotten me close...I tried a statement like Me.curMRate.Value = "qryMileageByDate" but this isn't quite right either...says I can't assign a value to this object. 
   
  I've already started whipping up a substitute program that avoids any of this stuff, but it is not what I wanted. I want the user to be able to lookup a record and the rates for the date of that record will always be in there.
   
  Here is the really dumb thing about it...I've done this before. I wrote a program that did pretty much exactly what I am trying to do. But, that was 4-5 years ago, and I really haven't done much coding in that time.
   
  To put the question simply, how do I send a date to a query, from a form, and get back a rate based on that date...this would be the latest entry as of the entered date...basically what the code above does, but via the form?
   
  Thank you very much for all the help so far, by the way!
   
  John Clark
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Fri Dec 18 14:03:06 2009
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:03:06 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Reports Not Printing Data
Message-ID: <716FD9397E1E46D0A1AE6BF4BA18229F@danwaters>

One of my customers has a problem where his color printer will not print the
blue text which is the data on a report.  I know the report is fine, because
other customers can print it just fine.  And his printer does print blue for
other things.

This is probably a printer issue - is there anything I can do to help him
solve this?

Dan






From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com  Fri Dec 18 14:36:41 2009
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (Rusty Hammond)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:36:41 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Reports Not Printing Data
In-Reply-To: <716FD9397E1E46D0A1AE6BF4BA18229F@danwaters>
References: <716FD9397E1E46D0A1AE6BF4BA18229F@danwaters>
Message-ID: <49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB7217006D79307@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET>

Check the print quality setting for the printer driver?  I've seen some
printers that do just what you describe and the print quality is set to
Draft Mode to save ink.  I change the print quality to Normal and it
fixes the problem.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 2:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Reports Not Printing Data

One of my customers has a problem where his color printer will not print
the blue text which is the data on a report.  I know the report is fine,
because other customers can print it just fine.  And his printer does
print blue for other things.

This is probably a printer issue - is there anything I can do to help
him solve this?

Dan




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From jeff.developer at gmail.com  Fri Dec 18 15:04:47 2009
From: jeff.developer at gmail.com (Jeff B)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:04:47 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Reports Not Printing Data
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References: <716FD9397E1E46D0A1AE6BF4BA18229F@danwaters>
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I had the same kind of issue at the last job.  In their case, it was the
print spooler service on the server.  Restart the service and everything was
fine!

Jeff Barrows
MCP, MCAD, MCSD
?
Outbak Technologies, LLC
Racine, WI
jeff.developer at gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 2:37 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Reports Not Printing Data

Check the print quality setting for the printer driver?  I've seen some
printers that do just what you describe and the print quality is set to
Draft Mode to save ink.  I change the print quality to Normal and it
fixes the problem.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 2:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Reports Not Printing Data

One of my customers has a problem where his color printer will not print
the blue text which is the data on a report.  I know the report is fine,
because other customers can print it just fine.  And his printer does
print blue for other things.

This is probably a printer issue - is there anything I can do to help
him solve this?

Dan




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From adtp at airtelmail.in  Sat Dec 19 02:15:21 2009
From: adtp at airtelmail.in (A.D. Tejpal)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 13:45:21 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Try this one again
References: <7c7841600912151235o6ce5c83aqc38bc29d64dfbefb@mail.gmail.com><002001ca7ea3$86f347a0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9><4B2A3648.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com><002101ca7fc4$41d9c9b0$3701a8c0@adtpc>
	<4B2B64E3.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <005e01ca8083$7a87ed40$3701a8c0@adtpc>

    You are most welcome John! For forced display of two decimal positions, just make sure that format property is also set as desired (e.g. Standard, Fixed or Currency)

Best wishes,
A.D. Tejpal
------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Clark 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 21:47
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Try this one again


  Well A.D., I think you are officially my hero today! ;o)
   
  First of all, as soon as I saw your code...specifically the change to the SQL of the query...I regained my memory. This is exactly what I had done in the past, and I had totally forgotten about it. So, because I had done it that way before, and I am pressed for time, I went this way again...and it worked...for the most part it worked.
   
  Now I am on to something I totally did not foresee...something I've never run into before. I am having simple arithmetic problems now
   
  (A) The biggest problem...decimals aren't showing up properly. I've got the number type setup as double w/2 decimals, and I am still seeing "0.2" and "15" instead of "15.00"
   
  and
   
  (B) It doesn't seem to want to perform the addition of the standard fee. The witness gets mileage, based on the going rate, multiplied by their distance, and this is working. But, they also get a stipend of $15.00, and this isn't working right now. 
   
  I'm not real worried about this last one...yet...because I'm guessing it is something dumb that I am missing or doing, and I've just got to go back and proof my work for a mistake.

From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Mon Dec 21 10:08:08 2009
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:08:08 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Try this one again
In-Reply-To: <005e01ca8083$7a87ed40$3701a8c0@adtpc>
References: <7c7841600912151235o6ce5c83aqc38bc29d64dfbefb@mail.gmail.com><002001ca7ea3$86f347a0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9><4B2A3648.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com><002101ca7fc4$41d9c9b0$3701a8c0@adtpc>
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	<005e01ca8083$7a87ed40$3701a8c0@adtpc>
Message-ID: <4B2F5718.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>

Yeah, I did find this...thank you. For some reason...I'm guessing I didn't have it set at creation time...the format didn't follow from the table into the form, so I had to set this on the form itself. This was an easy one.
 
Thanks to your help...and a few others...I finally got this near completion. I can't believe I'd actually done this before and just forgot it.
 
I've got a couple more issues to iron out, but I think I'll put them in a separate post...one is just advice sought, and another is...well, I don't think I actually need help on it...I actually got code from this list long ago, and I just have to work it to fit this current project. Well, since it is just advice, I guess I will ask here...
 
I am using this data to print a voucher, which the witnesses will take to the treasurer's dept, and get a check. For the actual letter, would you suggest an Access report, or pumping the data out to a Word form? I figure the Access report would be the easiest, but I'm limited there w/formatting. I am currently leaning toward do this, but I am working out some spacing issues...making it work w/different data placed into the paragraphs.
 
Oh, and I do have one issue, which I will be putting in a different post...
 
Thanks again! Take care!

>>> "A.D. Tejpal" <adtp at airtelmail.in> 12/19/2009 3:15 AM >>>
    You are most welcome John! For forced display of two decimal positions, just make sure that format property is also set as desired (e.g. Standard, Fixed or Currency)

Best wishes,
A.D. Tejpal
------------

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Clark 
  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
  Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 21:47
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Try this one again


  Well A.D., I think you are officially my hero today! ;o)
   
  First of all, as soon as I saw your code...specifically the change to the SQL of the query...I regained my memory. This is exactly what I had done in the past, and I had totally forgotten about it. So, because I had done it that way before, and I am pressed for time, I went this way again...and it worked...for the most part it worked.
   
  Now I am on to something I totally did not foresee...something I've never run into before. I am having simple arithmetic problems now
   
  (A) The biggest problem...decimals aren't showing up properly. I've got the number type setup as double w/2 decimals, and I am still seeing "0.2" and "15" instead of "15.00"
   
  and
   
  (B) It doesn't seem to want to perform the addition of the standard fee. The witness gets mileage, based on the going rate, multiplied by their distance, and this is working. But, they also get a stipend of $15.00, and this isn't working right now. 
   
  I'm not real worried about this last one...yet...because I'm guessing it is something dumb that I am missing or doing, and I've just got to go back and proof my work for a mistake.
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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Mon Dec 21 10:19:45 2009
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:19:45 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Incorrect Data...sometimes   WAS: Try this one again
In-Reply-To: <005e01ca8083$7a87ed40$3701a8c0@adtpc>
References: <7c7841600912151235o6ce5c83aqc38bc29d64dfbefb@mail.gmail.com><002001ca7ea3$86f347a0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9><4B2A3648.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com><002101ca7fc4$41d9c9b0$3701a8c0@adtpc>
	<4B2B64E3.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
	<005e01ca8083$7a87ed40$3701a8c0@adtpc>
Message-ID: <4B2F59D1.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>

Well, thanks to members of this list...again!...I am on the way to finishing up my current project...one of them anyhow. But, I've got a quick...hopefully...snag to work out first.
 
The help I received pointed me to the following code, which obtains a correct mileage rate, as per the date on the form:
 
Me.curMRate = DLookup("curMRate", "qryMileageRateSrch")
 
The query that this calls, uses the date on the form to find the proper rate
 
SELECT TOP 1 tblMileageRate.datDate, tblMileageRate.curMRate
FROM tblMileageRate
WHERE (((tblMileageRate.datDate)<[Forms]![WitnessVoucherData]![datDate]))
ORDER BY tblMileageRate.datDate DESC;
 
And, this works flawlessly, when running the query. However, when running it from the form, it returns the wrong rate for one of the months. For testing purposes, I entered rate data for three months...it is usually only updated quarterly...and I've used various dates w/in those periods as tests. Her is the actual data:
 
09/01/2009 ... $0.18
10/01/2009 ... $0.20
11/01/2009 ... $0.23
 
If I enter any date w/in October, I get $0.20 returned for a rate. Any date w/in November returns $0.23. But, if I put in a September date, I get $0.23 (i.e. November).
 
As I typed this, I have an idea of what may be happening...it is something I wondered about, but it seemed to work, so I moved on. The field type is "text", so I wonder if textually, this order is different...


From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Mon Dec 21 10:24:39 2009
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:24:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Incorrect Data...sometimes   WAS: Try this one	again
In-Reply-To: <4B2F59D1.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
References: <7c7841600912151235o6ce5c83aqc38bc29d64dfbefb@mail.gmail.com><002001ca7ea3$86f347a0$0c02a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9><4B2A3648.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com><002101ca7fc4$41d9c9b0$3701a8c0@adtpc>
	<4B2B64E3.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
	<005e01ca8083$7a87ed40$3701a8c0@adtpc>
	<4B2F59D1.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <4B2F5AF6.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>

Yup...that appears to be the trick. I went back to the program and changed the field to "date" (I can't even remember why I did this...there had to be a reason, because I never do this) and it worked...so far...more tests to run.

>>> "John Clark" <John.Clark at niagaracounty.com> 12/21/2009 11:19 AM >>>
Well, thanks to members of this list...again!...I am on the way to finishing up my current project...one of them anyhow. But, I've got a quick...hopefully...snag to work out first.

The help I received pointed me to the following code, which obtains a correct mileage rate, as per the date on the form:

Me.curMRate = DLookup("curMRate", "qryMileageRateSrch")

The query that this calls, uses the date on the form to find the proper rate

SELECT TOP 1 tblMileageRate.datDate, tblMileageRate.curMRate
FROM tblMileageRate
WHERE (((tblMileageRate.datDate)<[Forms]![WitnessVoucherData]![datDate]))
ORDER BY tblMileageRate.datDate DESC;

And, this works flawlessly, when running the query. However, when running it from the form, it returns the wrong rate for one of the months. For testing purposes, I entered rate data for three months...it is usually only updated quarterly...and I've used various dates w/in those periods as tests. Her is the actual data:

09/01/2009 ... $0.18
10/01/2009 ... $0.20
11/01/2009 ... $0.23

If I enter any date w/in October, I get $0.20 returned for a rate. Any date w/in November returns $0.23. But, if I put in a September date, I get $0.23 (i.e. November).

As I typed this, I have an idea of what may be happening...it is something I wondered about, but it seemed to work, so I moved on. The field type is "text", so I wonder if textually, this order is different...
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From accessd at gfconsultants.com  Mon Dec 21 10:44:48 2009
From: accessd at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:44:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Try this one again
In-Reply-To: <4B2F5718.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <90B1D9F96E694C6398D87C4FEB39A544@reubennx9500>

I would stick with Access reports.  I make all kinds of reports for
government work all using Access.  And if the formatting is tough to copy
you'd be surprised what you can convince people to change to.
I've nearly changed the culture of "claims" in the state of Indiana.  The
old form was ridiculous - and I couldn't match it.  So I convinced one
county to change years ago and now it's on the verge of being the standard.

And if you are placing parts of your data into pre-worded paragraphs (the
paragraph wording is pre-defined other than your data) do all the paragraph
building in code.   

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 11:08 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Try this one again
> 
> 
> Yeah, I did find this...thank you. For some reason...I'm 
> guessing I didn't have it set at creation time...the format 
> didn't follow from the table into the form, so I had to set 
> this on the form itself. This was an easy one.
>  
> Thanks to your help...and a few others...I finally got this 
> near completion. I can't believe I'd actually done this 
> before and just forgot it.
>  
> I've got a couple more issues to iron out, but I think I'll 
> put them in a separate post...one is just advice sought, and 
> another is...well, I don't think I actually need help on 
> it...I actually got code from this list long ago, and I just 
> have to work it to fit this current project. Well, since it 
> is just advice, I guess I will ask here...
>  
> I am using this data to print a voucher, which the witnesses 
> will take to the treasurer's dept, and get a check. For the 
> actual letter, would you suggest an Access report, or pumping 
> the data out to a Word form? I figure the Access report would 
> be the easiest, but I'm limited there w/formatting. I am 
> currently leaning toward do this, but I am working out some 
> spacing issues...making it work w/different data placed into 
> the paragraphs.
>  
> Oh, and I do have one issue, which I will be putting in a 
> different post...
>  
> Thanks again! Take care!
> 
> >>> "A.D. Tejpal" <adtp at airtelmail.in> 12/19/2009 3:15 AM >>>
>     You are most welcome John! For forced display of two 
> decimal positions, just make sure that format property is 
> also set as desired (e.g. Standard, Fixed or Currency)
> 
> Best wishes,
> A.D. Tejpal
> ------------
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: John Clark 
>   To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving 
>   Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 21:47
>   Subject: Re: [AccessD] Try this one again
> 
> 
>   Well A.D., I think you are officially my hero today! ;o)
>    
>   First of all, as soon as I saw your code...specifically the 
> change to the SQL of the query...I regained my memory. This 
> is exactly what I had done in the past, and I had totally 
> forgotten about it. So, because I had done it that way 
> before, and I am pressed for time, I went this way 
> again...and it worked...for the most part it worked.
>    
>   Now I am on to something I totally did not 
> foresee...something I've never run into before. I am having 
> simple arithmetic problems now
>    
>   (A) The biggest problem...decimals aren't showing up 
> properly. I've got the number type setup as double w/2 
> decimals, and I am still seeing "0.2" and "15" instead of "15.00"
>    
>   and
>    
>   (B) It doesn't seem to want to perform the addition of the 
> standard fee. The witness gets mileage, based on the going 
> rate, multiplied by their distance, and this is working. But, 
> they also get a stipend of $15.00, and this isn't working right now. 
>    
>   I'm not real worried about this last one...yet...because 
> I'm guessing it is something dumb that I am missing or doing, 
> and I've just got to go back and proof my work for a mistake.
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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Mon Dec 21 11:01:54 2009
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:01:54 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Reports Not Printing Data
In-Reply-To: <716FD9397E1E46D0A1AE6BF4BA18229F@danwaters>
References: <716FD9397E1E46D0A1AE6BF4BA18229F@danwaters>
Message-ID: <DBDA047C0970443BA6FC11328E0DD167@danwaters>

Jeff & Rusty,

Thanks for this help.  

Thanks!
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 2:03 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Reports Not Printing Data

One of my customers has a problem where his color printer will not print the
blue text which is the data on a report.  I know the report is fine, because
other customers can print it just fine.  And his printer does print blue for
other things.

This is probably a printer issue - is there anything I can do to help him
solve this?

Dan




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From joeo at appoli.com  Mon Dec 21 12:21:35 2009
From: joeo at appoli.com (Joe O'Connell)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:21:35 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Open Excel workbook from Access 2000
In-Reply-To: <8786a4c00912171434p1621a737sd640ab89a67c2dad@mail.gmail.com>
References: <70BCD669712C4E228CA5058E38D77BA6@SusanOne><A11E23D2D42744ECBB52F3BED1FAEAB3@SusanOne><B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E2CA42DB3@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net><4B2AB01E.19284.E695146@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<8786a4c00912171434p1621a737sd640ab89a67c2dad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1CF20DB644BE124083B31638E5D5C0234A2087@exch2.Onappsad.net>

I need to open a specific sheet in an Excel workbook from Access 2000.
There is no problem opening the workbook, the list of processes shows
that Excel is running.  The problem is that the workbook is not visible.
The statement to display the workbook ("excelWb.Visible = True") fails
with an error "Object does not support this object or method".

Does anyone know the correct syntax to display the workbook?

The code is:

Public Sub OpenSheet( strWB, strSheet)

    Dim excelapp As Excel.Application
    Dim excelWb As Excel.Workbook
    Dim excelSheet As Excel.Worksheet
    
    Set excelapp = CreateObject("Excel.Application")
    Set excelWb = excelapp.Workbooks.Open(strWB, , True)
    excelWb.Worksheets(strSheet).Activate

    excelWb.Visible = True

End Sub


Joe O'Connell



From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Mon Dec 21 12:28:53 2009
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:28:53 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Open Excel workbook from Access 2000
In-Reply-To: <1CF20DB644BE124083B31638E5D5C0234A2087@exch2.Onappsad.net>
Message-ID: <316177B725F2497596336297A1092F45@MINSTER>

Hi Joe

I think it's the Excel app you need to make visible. Try

Excelapp.Visible=True

Andy

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe O'Connell
Sent: 21 December 2009 18:22
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Open Excel workbook from Access 2000


I need to open a specific sheet in an Excel workbook from Access 2000.
There is no problem opening the workbook, the list of processes shows
that Excel is running.  The problem is that the workbook is not visible.
The statement to display the workbook ("excelWb.Visible = True") fails
with an error "Object does not support this object or method".

Does anyone know the correct syntax to display the workbook?

The code is:

Public Sub OpenSheet( strWB, strSheet)

    Dim excelapp As Excel.Application
    Dim excelWb As Excel.Workbook
    Dim excelSheet As Excel.Worksheet
    
    Set excelapp = CreateObject("Excel.Application")
    Set excelWb = excelapp.Workbooks.Open(strWB, , True)
    excelWb.Worksheets(strSheet).Activate

    excelWb.Visible = True

End Sub


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From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com  Mon Dec 21 12:29:46 2009
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (Rusty Hammond)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 12:29:46 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Open Excel workbook from Access 2000
In-Reply-To: <1CF20DB644BE124083B31638E5D5C0234A2087@exch2.Onappsad.net>
References: <70BCD669712C4E228CA5058E38D77BA6@SusanOne><A11E23D2D42744ECBB52F3BED1FAEAB3@SusanOne><B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E2CA42DB3@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net><4B2AB01E.19284.E695146@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg><8786a4c00912171434p1621a737sd640ab89a67c2dad@mail.gmail.com>
	<1CF20DB644BE124083B31638E5D5C0234A2087@exch2.Onappsad.net>
Message-ID: <49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB7217006D79316@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET>

Try setting the application visible, ie excelapp.application.visible =
True

HTH

Rusty

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe O'Connell
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 12:22 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Open Excel workbook from Access 2000

I need to open a specific sheet in an Excel workbook from Access 2000.
There is no problem opening the workbook, the list of processes shows
that Excel is running.  The problem is that the workbook is not visible.
The statement to display the workbook ("excelWb.Visible = True") fails
with an error "Object does not support this object or method".

Does anyone know the correct syntax to display the workbook?

The code is:

Public Sub OpenSheet( strWB, strSheet)

    Dim excelapp As Excel.Application
    Dim excelWb As Excel.Workbook
    Dim excelSheet As Excel.Worksheet
    
    Set excelapp = CreateObject("Excel.Application")
    Set excelWb = excelapp.Workbooks.Open(strWB, , True)
    excelWb.Worksheets(strSheet).Activate

    excelWb.Visible = True

End Sub


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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Mon Dec 21 12:29:34 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:29:34 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Open Excel workbook from Access 2000
Message-ID: <sb2fccb2.057@cactus.dk>

Hi Joe

Try with:

    Set excelapp = CreateObject("Excel.Application")
    Set excelWb = excelapp.Workbooks.Open(strWB, , True)
    Set excelSheet = excelWb.Worksheets(strSheet)

    excelSheet.Visible = True
    excelSheet.Activate

/gustav


>>> joeo at appoli.com 21-12-2009 19:21:35 >>>
I need to open a specific sheet in an Excel workbook from Access 2000.
There is no problem opening the workbook, the list of processes shows
that Excel is running.  The problem is that the workbook is not visible.
The statement to display the workbook ("excelWb.Visible = True") fails
with an error "Object does not support this object or method".

Does anyone know the correct syntax to display the workbook?

The code is:

Public Sub OpenSheet( strWB, strSheet)

    Dim excelapp As Excel.Application
    Dim excelWb As Excel.Workbook
    Dim excelSheet As Excel.Worksheet
    
    Set excelapp = CreateObject("Excel.Application")
    Set excelWb = excelapp.Workbooks.Open(strWB, , True)
    excelWb.Worksheets(strSheet).Activate

    excelWb.Visible = True

End Sub


Joe O'Connell




From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Dec 21 12:32:28 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:32:28 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] List of Constants
Message-ID: <CF5DD7A5A2354C13A3610394EABE7696@HAL9005>

Dear List:

Does anyone know where there is a list of constants and what they refer to? 

In a legacy app I find the following:

DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acRecordsMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70

but can't find out what command 5 is.

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 


From RRANTHON at sentara.com  Mon Dec 21 12:34:55 2009
From: RRANTHON at sentara.com (RANDALL R ANTHONY)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:34:55 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Open Excel workbook from Access 2000
In-Reply-To: <1CF20DB644BE124083B31638E5D5C0234A2087@exch2.Onappsad.net>
References: <70BCD669712C4E228CA5058E38D77BA6@SusanOne><A11E23D2D42744ECBB52F3BED1FAEAB3@SusanOne><B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E2CA42DB3@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net><4B2AB01E.19284.E695146@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<8786a4c00912171434p1621a737sd640ab89a67c2dad@mail.gmail.com>
	<1CF20DB644BE124083B31638E5D5C0234A2087@exch2.Onappsad.net>
Message-ID: <200912211835.nBLIZHn1028906@databaseadvisors.com>

This is what works for me.
 Dim oXL As Excel.Application
 oXLBook As Workbook
 oxlsheet As Worksheet

 'open the spreadsheet
    Set oXL = New Excel.Application
    Set oXLBook = oXL.Workbooks.ADD
    oXL.Visible = True
    oXLBook.Activate

>>> On 12/21/2009 at 1:21 PM, in message <1CF20DB644BE124083B31638E5D5C0234A2087 at exch2.Onappsad.net>, "Joe O'Connell" <joeo at appoli.com> wrote:
I need to open a specific sheet in an Excel workbook from Access 2000.
There is no problem opening the workbook, the list of processes shows
that Excel is running.  The problem is that the workbook is not visible.
The statement to display the workbook ("excelWb.Visible = True") fails
with an error "Object does not support this object or method".

Does anyone know the correct syntax to display the workbook?

The code is:

Public Sub OpenSheet( strWB, strSheet)

    Dim excelapp As Excel.Application
    Dim excelWb As Excel.Workbook
    Dim excelSheet As Excel.Worksheet
    
    Set excelapp = CreateObject("Excel.Application")
    Set excelWb = excelapp.Workbooks.Open(strWB, , True)
    excelWb.Worksheets(strSheet).Activate

    excelWb.Visible = True

End Sub


Joe O'Connell

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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Mon Dec 21 12:38:12 2009
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Mike Mattys)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:38:12 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] List of Constants
References: <CF5DD7A5A2354C13A3610394EABE7696@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <6AB038EE21C249ED817BF7B83080D1FA@Mattys>

Terry Wickenden has that covered.
http://www.accessruncommand.com/

-
Michael R Mattys
MapPoint and Database Dev
www.mattysconsulting.com
-
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 1:32 PM
Subject: [AccessD] List of Constants


> Dear List:
>
> Does anyone know where there is a list of constants and what they refer 
> to?
>
> In a legacy app I find the following:
>
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acRecordsMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70
>
> but can't find out what command 5 is.
>
>
>
> MTIA
>
>
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
>


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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Mon Dec 21 12:43:33 2009
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:43:33 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Dumb 2007 question
In-Reply-To: <90B1D9F96E694C6398D87C4FEB39A544@reubennx9500>
References: <4B2F5718.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
	<90B1D9F96E694C6398D87C4FEB39A544@reubennx9500>
Message-ID: <4B2F7B84.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>

OK, here's another one for ya...
 
How do I make a form look like a single form, in A2007? In all past versions, I've made the form, so that doesn't take up the whole page, and sometimes I get rid of "access" so that it looks like a separate form, on its own. This is my first stab at 2007, and it appears that my form takes up the whole screen and is just part of Access. I see options for border style and such, but they don't seem to do anything.


From Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com  Mon Dec 21 12:48:14 2009
From: Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:48:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] List of Constants
In-Reply-To: <CF5DD7A5A2354C13A3610394EABE7696@HAL9005>
References: <CF5DD7A5A2354C13A3610394EABE7696@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E7E0D0537@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>

IIRC, the DoMenuItem method used the position of the menu items to select an action. So '5' would be the fifth item in the Records Menu, which seems to be the command to save the current record.

The Access 2003  on-line help discusses the DoMenuItem Method.

Lambert

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 1:32 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] List of Constants

Dear List:

Does anyone know where there is a list of constants and what they refer to? 

In a legacy app I find the following:

DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acRecordsMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70

but can't find out what command 5 is.

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 




From joeo at appoli.com  Mon Dec 21 13:17:19 2009
From: joeo at appoli.com (Joe O'Connell)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:17:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Open Excel workbook from Access 2000
In-Reply-To: <200912211835.nBLIZHn1028906@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <70BCD669712C4E228CA5058E38D77BA6@SusanOne><A11E23D2D42744ECBB52F3BED1FAEAB3@SusanOne><B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E2CA42DB3@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net><4B2AB01E.19284.E695146@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg><8786a4c00912171434p1621a737sd640ab89a67c2dad@mail.gmail.com><1CF20DB644BE124083B31638E5D5C0234A2087@exch2.Onappsad.net>
	<200912211835.nBLIZHn1028906@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <1CF20DB644BE124083B31638E5D5C0234A208B@exch2.Onappsad.net>

Thanks to all who responded.  This is what works:

Public Sub OpenSheet(ByVal strWB As String, ByVal strSheet As String)

    Dim excelApp As Excel.Application
    Dim excelWb As Workbook
    Dim excelSheet As Worksheet
    
    Set excelApp = New Excel.Application
    Set excelWb = excelApp.Workbooks.Add(strWB)
    Set excelSheet = excelWb.Worksheets(strSheet)
    excelSheet.Visible = True
    excelSheet.Activate
    excelApp.Visible = True
End Sub

Ideally the workbook should be opened as read only. Is this possible?

Joe O'Connell


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of RANDALL R
ANTHONY
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 1:35 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Excel workbook from Access 2000

This is what works for me.
 Dim oXL As Excel.Application
 oXLBook As Workbook
 oxlsheet As Worksheet

 'open the spreadsheet
    Set oXL = New Excel.Application
    Set oXLBook = oXL.Workbooks.ADD
    oXL.Visible = True
    oXLBook.Activate

>>> On 12/21/2009 at 1:21 PM, in message
<1CF20DB644BE124083B31638E5D5C0234A2087 at exch2.Onappsad.net>, "Joe
O'Connell" <joeo at appoli.com> wrote:
I need to open a specific sheet in an Excel workbook from Access 2000.
There is no problem opening the workbook, the list of processes shows
that Excel is running.  The problem is that the workbook is not visible.
The statement to display the workbook ("excelWb.Visible = True") fails
with an error "Object does not support this object or method".

Does anyone know the correct syntax to display the workbook?

The code is:

Public Sub OpenSheet( strWB, strSheet)

    Dim excelapp As Excel.Application
    Dim excelWb As Excel.Workbook
    Dim excelSheet As Excel.Worksheet
    
    Set excelapp = CreateObject("Excel.Application")
    Set excelWb = excelapp.Workbooks.Open(strWB, , True)
    excelWb.Worksheets(strSheet).Activate

    excelWb.Visible = True

End Sub


Joe O'Connell

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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Mon Dec 21 13:35:33 2009
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:35:33 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Try this one again
In-Reply-To: <90B1D9F96E694C6398D87C4FEB39A544@reubennx9500>
References: <90B1D9F96E694C6398D87C4FEB39A544@reubennx9500>
Message-ID: <F1CCEB19223B4C0AB349361B0C59ACE4@jislaptopdev>

...and if you need to provide user editing of the report contents you can 
insert an rtf control (I use Leban's freebie) and let the user edit the 
verbiage before printing/distributing ...access reports provide a great deal 
more control over the formatting and layout of your end product than Word 
will provide without a lot of work.

William

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Reuben Cummings" <accessd at gfconsultants.com>
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 11:44 AM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Try this one again

> I would stick with Access reports.  I make all kinds of reports for
> government work all using Access.  And if the formatting is tough to copy
> you'd be surprised what you can convince people to change to.
> I've nearly changed the culture of "claims" in the state of Indiana.  The
> old form was ridiculous - and I couldn't match it.  So I convinced one
> county to change years ago and now it's on the verge of being the 
> standard.
>
> And if you are placing parts of your data into pre-worded paragraphs (the
> paragraph wording is pre-defined other than your data) do all the 
> paragraph
> building in code.
>
> Reuben Cummings
> GFC, LLC
> 812.523.1017
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
>> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 11:08 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Try this one again
>>
>>
>> Yeah, I did find this...thank you. For some reason...I'm
>> guessing I didn't have it set at creation time...the format
>> didn't follow from the table into the form, so I had to set
>> this on the form itself. This was an easy one.
>>
>> Thanks to your help...and a few others...I finally got this
>> near completion. I can't believe I'd actually done this
>> before and just forgot it.
>>
>> I've got a couple more issues to iron out, but I think I'll
>> put them in a separate post...one is just advice sought, and
>> another is...well, I don't think I actually need help on
>> it...I actually got code from this list long ago, and I just
>> have to work it to fit this current project. Well, since it
>> is just advice, I guess I will ask here...
>>
>> I am using this data to print a voucher, which the witnesses
>> will take to the treasurer's dept, and get a check. For the
>> actual letter, would you suggest an Access report, or pumping
>> the data out to a Word form? I figure the Access report would
>> be the easiest, but I'm limited there w/formatting. I am
>> currently leaning toward do this, but I am working out some
>> spacing issues...making it work w/different data placed into
>> the paragraphs.
>>
>> Oh, and I do have one issue, which I will be putting in a
>> different post...
>>
>> Thanks again! Take care!
>>
>> >>> "A.D. Tejpal" <adtp at airtelmail.in> 12/19/2009 3:15 AM >>>
>>     You are most welcome John! For forced display of two
>> decimal positions, just make sure that format property is
>> also set as desired (e.g. Standard, Fixed or Currency)
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> A.D. Tejpal
>> ------------
>>
>>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>>   From: John Clark
>>   To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>   Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 21:47
>>   Subject: Re: [AccessD] Try this one again
>>
>>
>>   Well A.D., I think you are officially my hero today! ;o)
>>
>>   First of all, as soon as I saw your code...specifically the
>> change to the SQL of the query...I regained my memory. This
>> is exactly what I had done in the past, and I had totally
>> forgotten about it. So, because I had done it that way
>> before, and I am pressed for time, I went this way
>> again...and it worked...for the most part it worked.
>>
>>   Now I am on to something I totally did not
>> foresee...something I've never run into before. I am having
>> simple arithmetic problems now
>>
>>   (A) The biggest problem...decimals aren't showing up
>> properly. I've got the number type setup as double w/2
>> decimals, and I am still seeing "0.2" and "15" instead of "15.00"
>>
>>   and
>>
>>   (B) It doesn't seem to want to perform the addition of the
>> standard fee. The witness gets mileage, based on the going
>> rate, multiplied by their distance, and this is working. But,
>> they also get a stipend of $15.00, and this isn't working right now.
>>
>>   I'm not real worried about this last one...yet...because
>> I'm guessing it is something dumb that I am missing or doing,
>> and I've just got to go back and proof my work for a mistake.
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Dec 21 14:01:23 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:01:23 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] List of Constants
In-Reply-To: <CF5DD7A5A2354C13A3610394EABE7696@HAL9005>
References: <CF5DD7A5A2354C13A3610394EABE7696@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <4B2FD413.5050703@colbyconsulting.com>

AKA "Magic Numbers", so called because you have to be a member of the priesthood (or develop the 
app) to have a clue.

IIRC that is an index into that menu (5th item down) but I could quite easily be wrong on that one.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Rocky Smolin wrote:
> Dear List:
> 
> Does anyone know where there is a list of constants and what they refer to? 
> 
> In a legacy app I find the following:
> 
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acRecordsMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70
> 
> but can't find out what command 5 is.
> 
>  
> 
> MTIA
> 
>  
> 
> Rocky
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 


From Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com  Mon Dec 21 14:52:13 2009
From: Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:52:13 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Open Excel workbook from Access 2000
In-Reply-To: <1CF20DB644BE124083B31638E5D5C0234A208B@exch2.Onappsad.net>
References: <70BCD669712C4E228CA5058E38D77BA6@SusanOne><A11E23D2D42744ECBB52F3BED1FAEAB3@SusanOne><B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E2CA42DB3@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net><4B2AB01E.19284.E695146@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg><8786a4c00912171434p1621a737sd640ab89a67c2dad@mail.gmail.com><1CF20DB644BE124083B31638E5D5C0234A2087@exch2.Onappsad.net>
	<200912211835.nBLIZHn1028906@databaseadvisors.com>
	<1CF20DB644BE124083B31638E5D5C0234A208B@exch2.Onappsad.net>
Message-ID: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E7E0D05AF@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>

Read-Only: you need to change your method of opening the file. 

In fact the method you are using right now does not open the file at all, it opens a copy of the file using it as a template to create a NEW excel file. You can tell that this is so by looking at the tile bar in Excel: it will show the name of the original Excel file, but with a digit "1" appended.

This modification of your code opens the ORIGINAL file and also optionally does so ReadOnly

Public Sub OpenSheet(ByVal strWB As String, ByVal strSheet As String, boolReadOnly As Boolean)

    Dim excelApp As Excel.Application
    Dim excelSheet As Worksheet
    
    Set excelApp = New Excel.Application
    excelApp.Workbooks.Open strWB, , boolReadOnly
    Set excelSheet = excelApp.Worksheets(strSheet)
    excelSheet.Activate
    excelApp.Visible = True
End Sub


HTH

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe O'Connell
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 2:17 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Excel workbook from Access 2000

Thanks to all who responded.  This is what works:

Public Sub OpenSheet(ByVal strWB As String, ByVal strSheet As String)

    Dim excelApp As Excel.Application
    Dim excelWb As Workbook
    Dim excelSheet As Worksheet
    
    Set excelApp = New Excel.Application
    Set excelWb = excelApp.Workbooks.Add(strWB)
    Set excelSheet = excelWb.Worksheets(strSheet)
    excelSheet.Visible = True
    excelSheet.Activate
    excelApp.Visible = True
End Sub

Ideally the workbook should be opened as read only. Is this possible?

Joe O'Connell


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of RANDALL R ANTHONY
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 1:35 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Excel workbook from Access 2000

This is what works for me.
 Dim oXL As Excel.Application
 oXLBook As Workbook
 oxlsheet As Worksheet

 'open the spreadsheet
    Set oXL = New Excel.Application
    Set oXLBook = oXL.Workbooks.ADD
    oXL.Visible = True
    oXLBook.Activate

>>> On 12/21/2009 at 1:21 PM, in message
<1CF20DB644BE124083B31638E5D5C0234A2087 at exch2.Onappsad.net>, "Joe O'Connell" <joeo at appoli.com> wrote:
I need to open a specific sheet in an Excel workbook from Access 2000.
There is no problem opening the workbook, the list of processes shows that Excel is running.  The problem is that the workbook is not visible.
The statement to display the workbook ("excelWb.Visible = True") fails with an error "Object does not support this object or method".

Does anyone know the correct syntax to display the workbook?

The code is:

Public Sub OpenSheet( strWB, strSheet)

    Dim excelapp As Excel.Application
    Dim excelWb As Excel.Workbook
    Dim excelSheet As Excel.Worksheet
    
    Set excelapp = CreateObject("Excel.Application")
    Set excelWb = excelapp.Workbooks.Open(strWB, , True)
    excelWb.Worksheets(strSheet).Activate

    excelWb.Visible = True

End Sub


Joe O'Connell

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From joeo at appoli.com  Mon Dec 21 15:08:05 2009
From: joeo at appoli.com (Joe O'Connell)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:08:05 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Open Excel workbook from Access 2000
In-Reply-To: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E7E0D05AF@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
References: <70BCD669712C4E228CA5058E38D77BA6@SusanOne><A11E23D2D42744ECBB52F3BED1FAEAB3@SusanOne><B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E2CA42DB3@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net><4B2AB01E.19284.E695146@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg><8786a4c00912171434p1621a737sd640ab89a67c2dad@mail.gmail.com><1CF20DB644BE124083B31638E5D5C0234A2087@exch2.Onappsad.net><200912211835.nBLIZHn1028906@databaseadvisors.com>
	<1CF20DB644BE124083B31638E5D5C0234A208B@exch2.Onappsad.net>
	<B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E7E0D05AF@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
Message-ID: <1CF20DB644BE124083B31638E5D5C0234A2097@exch2.Onappsad.net>

Thank you, I will give it a try.

Joe O'Connell

-----Original Message-----
From: Heenan, Lambert [mailto:Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 3:52 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Cc: Joe O'Connell
Subject: RE: [AccessD] Open Excel workbook from Access 2000

Read-Only: you need to change your method of opening the file. 

In fact the method you are using right now does not open the file at
all, it opens a copy of the file using it as a template to create a NEW
excel file. You can tell that this is so by looking at the tile bar in
Excel: it will show the name of the original Excel file, but with a
digit "1" appended.

This modification of your code opens the ORIGINAL file and also
optionally does so ReadOnly

Public Sub OpenSheet(ByVal strWB As String, ByVal strSheet As String,
boolReadOnly As Boolean)

    Dim excelApp As Excel.Application
    Dim excelSheet As Worksheet
    
    Set excelApp = New Excel.Application
    excelApp.Workbooks.Open strWB, , boolReadOnly
    Set excelSheet = excelApp.Worksheets(strSheet)
    excelSheet.Activate
    excelApp.Visible = True
End Sub


HTH

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Joe O'Connell
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 2:17 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Excel workbook from Access 2000

Thanks to all who responded.  This is what works:

Public Sub OpenSheet(ByVal strWB As String, ByVal strSheet As String)

    Dim excelApp As Excel.Application
    Dim excelWb As Workbook
    Dim excelSheet As Worksheet
    
    Set excelApp = New Excel.Application
    Set excelWb = excelApp.Workbooks.Add(strWB)
    Set excelSheet = excelWb.Worksheets(strSheet)
    excelSheet.Visible = True
    excelSheet.Activate
    excelApp.Visible = True
End Sub

Ideally the workbook should be opened as read only. Is this possible?

Joe O'Connell


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of RANDALL R
ANTHONY
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 1:35 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Open Excel workbook from Access 2000

This is what works for me.
 Dim oXL As Excel.Application
 oXLBook As Workbook
 oxlsheet As Worksheet

 'open the spreadsheet
    Set oXL = New Excel.Application
    Set oXLBook = oXL.Workbooks.ADD
    oXL.Visible = True
    oXLBook.Activate

>>> On 12/21/2009 at 1:21 PM, in message
<1CF20DB644BE124083B31638E5D5C0234A2087 at exch2.Onappsad.net>, "Joe
O'Connell" <joeo at appoli.com> wrote:
I need to open a specific sheet in an Excel workbook from Access 2000.
There is no problem opening the workbook, the list of processes shows
that Excel is running.  The problem is that the workbook is not visible.
The statement to display the workbook ("excelWb.Visible = True") fails
with an error "Object does not support this object or method".

Does anyone know the correct syntax to display the workbook?

The code is:

Public Sub OpenSheet( strWB, strSheet)

    Dim excelapp As Excel.Application
    Dim excelWb As Excel.Workbook
    Dim excelSheet As Excel.Worksheet
    
    Set excelapp = CreateObject("Excel.Application")
    Set excelWb = excelapp.Workbooks.Open(strWB, , True)
    excelWb.Worksheets(strSheet).Activate

    excelWb.Visible = True

End Sub


Joe O'Connell

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Dec 21 15:07:14 2009
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:07:14 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] List of Constants
In-Reply-To: <4B2FD413.5050703@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <CF5DD7A5A2354C13A3610394EABE7696@HAL9005>
	<4B2FD413.5050703@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E34353527@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>

Oh, that's what they were, John.  Problem is, the menus changed over time and the indexes didn't match the view any longer.   They still worked, they just didn't match the menus in the later versions of Access.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 12:01 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] List of Constants

AKA "Magic Numbers", so called because you have to be a member of the priesthood (or develop the 
app) to have a clue.

IIRC that is an index into that menu (5th item down) but I could quite easily be wrong on that one.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Rocky Smolin wrote:
> Dear List:
> 
> Does anyone know where there is a list of constants and what they refer to? 
> 
> In a legacy app I find the following:
> 
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acRecordsMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70
> 
> but can't find out what command 5 is.
> 
>  
> 
> MTIA
> 
>  
> 
> Rocky
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
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From Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com  Mon Dec 21 15:28:36 2009
From: Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:28:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] List of Constants
In-Reply-To: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E34353527@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
References: <CF5DD7A5A2354C13A3610394EABE7696@HAL9005>
	<4B2FD413.5050703@colbyconsulting.com>
	<AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E34353527@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
Message-ID: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E7E0D05D4@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>

Exactly. The first time I read the documentation for DoMenuItem I thought, "well that's dumb, because users can edit menus in Office applications." I suppose that it why DoMenuItem was deprecated and replaced with RunCommand.

Lambert 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 4:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] List of Constants

Oh, that's what they were, John.  Problem is, the menus changed over time and the indexes didn't match the view any longer.   They still worked, they just didn't match the menus in the later versions of Access.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 12:01 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] List of Constants

AKA "Magic Numbers", so called because you have to be a member of the priesthood (or develop the
app) to have a clue.

IIRC that is an index into that menu (5th item down) but I could quite easily be wrong on that one.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Rocky Smolin wrote:
> Dear List:
> 
> Does anyone know where there is a list of constants and what they refer to? 
> 
> In a legacy app I find the following:
> 
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acRecordsMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70
> 
> but can't find out what command 5 is.
> 
>  
> 
> MTIA
> 
>  
> 
> Rocky
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Mon Dec 21 15:39:24 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:39:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW:  Re:  List of Constants
In-Reply-To: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E7E0D05D4@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
References: <CF5DD7A5A2354C13A3610394EABE7696@HAL9005>	<4B2FD413.5050703@colbyconsulting.com>	<AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E34353527@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
	<B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E7E0D05D4@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
Message-ID: <4B2FEB0C.80803@colbyconsulting.com>

Yes, and yet those same things are still created by the macros.  Just an example of how something 
can inextricably embed itself in an application.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Heenan, Lambert wrote:
> Exactly. The first time I read the documentation for DoMenuItem I thought, "well that's dumb, because users can edit menus in Office applications." I suppose that it why DoMenuItem was deprecated and replaced with RunCommand.
> 
> Lambert 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 4:07 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] List of Constants
> 
> Oh, that's what they were, John.  Problem is, the menus changed over time and the indexes didn't match the view any longer.   They still worked, they just didn't match the menus in the later versions of Access.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 12:01 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] List of Constants
> 
> AKA "Magic Numbers", so called because you have to be a member of the priesthood (or develop the
> app) to have a clue.
> 
> IIRC that is an index into that menu (5th item down) but I could quite easily be wrong on that one.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> 
> Rocky Smolin wrote:
>> Dear List:
>>
>> Does anyone know where there is a list of constants and what they refer to? 
>>
>> In a legacy app I find the following:
>>
>> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acRecordsMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70
>>
>> but can't find out what command 5 is.
>>
>>  
>>
>> MTIA
>>
>>  
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>>
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Dec 21 19:57:33 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:57:33 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] List of Constants
In-Reply-To: <6AB038EE21C249ED817BF7B83080D1FA@Mattys>
References: <CF5DD7A5A2354C13A3610394EABE7696@HAL9005>
	<6AB038EE21C249ED817BF7B83080D1FA@Mattys>
Message-ID: <60CD501467974928B8FEA33F979916E3@HAL9005>

What I should probably do then is update all of the legacy code that uses
DoMenuItem to RunCommand, yes?

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike Mattys
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 10:38 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] List of Constants

Terry Wickenden has that covered.
http://www.accessruncommand.com/

-
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www.mattysconsulting.com
-
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 1:32 PM
Subject: [AccessD] List of Constants


> Dear List:
>
> Does anyone know where there is a list of constants and what they refer 
> to?
>
> In a legacy app I find the following:
>
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acRecordsMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70
>
> but can't find out what command 5 is.
>
>
>
> MTIA
>
>
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
>


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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Mon Dec 21 19:59:06 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:59:06 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] List of Constants
In-Reply-To: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E7E0D05D4@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
References: <CF5DD7A5A2354C13A3610394EABE7696@HAL9005><4B2FD413.5050703@colbyconsulting.com><AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E34353527@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
	<B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E7E0D05D4@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
Message-ID: <D453DF5DED8A415795979FD69B0FB08D@HAL9005>

Sounds like I ought to replace the DoMenuItem with RunCommand throughout.
Yes?

R 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 1:29 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] List of Constants

Exactly. The first time I read the documentation for DoMenuItem I thought,
"well that's dumb, because users can edit menus in Office applications." I
suppose that it why DoMenuItem was deprecated and replaced with RunCommand.

Lambert 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 4:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] List of Constants

Oh, that's what they were, John.  Problem is, the menus changed over time
and the indexes didn't match the view any longer.   They still worked, they
just didn't match the menus in the later versions of Access.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 12:01 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] List of Constants

AKA "Magic Numbers", so called because you have to be a member of the
priesthood (or develop the
app) to have a clue.

IIRC that is an index into that menu (5th item down) but I could quite
easily be wrong on that one.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Rocky Smolin wrote:
> Dear List:
> 
> Does anyone know where there is a list of constants and what they refer
to? 
> 
> In a legacy app I find the following:
> 
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acRecordsMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70
> 
> but can't find out what command 5 is.
> 
>  
> 
> MTIA
> 
>  
> 
> Rocky
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Mon Dec 21 20:02:11 2009
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Mike Mattys)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:02:11 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] List of Constants
References: <CF5DD7A5A2354C13A3610394EABE7696@HAL9005><6AB038EE21C249ED817BF7B83080D1FA@Mattys>
	<60CD501467974928B8FEA33F979916E3@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <C17510E4772E46E6BF9BFFE1AB521ED6@Mattys>

Sure, he's got most of the code there for you.

-
Michael R Mattys
MapPoint and Database Dev
www.mattysconsulting.com
-
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] List of Constants


> What I should probably do then is update all of the legacy code that uses
> DoMenuItem to RunCommand, yes?
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike Mattys
> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 10:38 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] List of Constants
>
> Terry Wickenden has that covered.
> http://www.accessruncommand.com/
>
> -
> Michael R Mattys
> MapPoint and Database Dev
> www.mattysconsulting.com
> -
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 1:32 PM
> Subject: [AccessD] List of Constants
>
>
>> Dear List:
>>
>> Does anyone know where there is a list of constants and what they refer
>> to?
>>
>> In a legacy app I find the following:
>>
>> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acRecordsMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70
>>
>> but can't find out what command 5 is.
>>
>>
>>
>> MTIA
>>
>>
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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From jerbach at gmail.com  Mon Dec 21 20:33:14 2009
From: jerbach at gmail.com (Janet Erbach)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:33:14 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Acronis Backup Software
Message-ID: <6ef6ac2c0912211833s26ee2en96fab45cfce773be@mail.gmail.com>

Hello -

Does anyone have experience with Acronis Backup software installed on
Windows Small Business Server 2008?  I tried installing a trial version of
'Acronis Backup and Recover 10 Server for Windows'  and had alot of trouble
with it.  I've uninstalled that and am now installing the trial for the
'Advanced Service SBS Edition' and am a little appalled at how HUGE it is.
It took an hour to download the installation file, and the install itself is
going to take a good half hour.  I'm wondering if any of you have used it
and if it's worth the trouble.  I've been using, sort-of-successfully,
Casper to do my backups, and this is a monster compared to that!

Janet Erbach
IT Administrator
Natural Healthy Concepts
www.naturalhealthyconcepts.com


From darren at activebilling.com.au  Mon Dec 21 20:43:32 2009
From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren - Active Billing)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:43:32 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Get file name after drag and drop_SecondSend
In-Reply-To: <043c01ca7a02$c60ffbe0$301b910a@denzilnote>
References: <043c01ca7a02$c60ffbe0$301b910a@denzilnote>
Message-ID: <013501ca82b0$8e67e930$301b910a@denzilnote>

Hi team

Merry Christmas to all
I had no response on this one the first time I sent it through
So here goes again :-)
Many thanks in advance

Darren
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hi team

Does anyone know how I can determine the file name of a file after it has been
dragged from (say the desktop) to an RTF field I have on an Access form?

Basically I be will writing a reasonably simple import routine for a determined
file type

Normally I would have a text box on a form that stores the path and allow users
to invoke a browse dialogue box.

But I'd rather just let the user 'drag' the file and drop it onto a
pre-determined place (The RTF Field) on one of my forms - get the file name and
then perform the import routine as if the file name was added to some field by
the browse dialogue box

Make sense?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Tue Dec 22 07:45:58 2009
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 08:45:58 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Try this one again
In-Reply-To: <90B1D9F96E694C6398D87C4FEB39A544@reubennx9500>
References: <4B2F5718.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
	<90B1D9F96E694C6398D87C4FEB39A544@reubennx9500>
Message-ID: <4B308746.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>

OK, I am taking your advice, and I've started doing this. I'm finding that isn't all that bad, and I think it will look alright. The trouble I am now having though, is that I am unable to bring the data into the paragraph. In the code, for the OnLoad event of the form, I am doing this:
 
Dim P1, P2, P3 As String
 
P1 = Witness
P1 = P1 + " - Being duly sworn, says that he/she attended as a witness on behalf of the People "
P1 = P1 + "before the above court, pursuant to a subpoena or at the request of the District "
P1 = P1 + "Attorney and that he traveled from the City/Town/Village of "
P1 = P1 + txtWitCity
P1 = P1 + ", in the State of New York, which said place is "
P1 = P1 + numMileage
P1 = P1 + " miles from the Court House in the City of Lockport."
 
Me.lblParaOne.Caption = P1
 
 
I've tried other things, but what is the code for getting a field (Witness, txtWitCity, numMileage) out of the query? I don't need to do this the "long" way do I?

>>> "Reuben Cummings" <accessd at gfconsultants.com> 12/21/2009 11:44 AM >>>
I would stick with Access reports.  I make all kinds of reports for
government work all using Access.  And if the formatting is tough to copy
you'd be surprised what you can convince people to change to.
I've nearly changed the culture of "claims" in the state of Indiana.  The
old form was ridiculous - and I couldn't match it.  So I convinced one
county to change years ago and now it's on the verge of being the standard.

And if you are placing parts of your data into pre-worded paragraphs (the
paragraph wording is pre-defined other than your data) do all the paragraph
building in code.   

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Dec 22 07:50:02 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 08:50:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Get file name after drag and drop_SecondSend
In-Reply-To: <013501ca82b0$8e67e930$301b910a@denzilnote>
References: <043c01ca7a02$c60ffbe0$301b910a@denzilnote>
	<013501ca82b0$8e67e930$301b910a@denzilnote>
Message-ID: <4B30CE8A.50305@colbyconsulting.com>

If the name is in a control, then MyControl.value should give you the contents of that control.

Or am I missing something?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Darren - Active Billing wrote:
> Hi team
> 
> Merry Christmas to all
> I had no response on this one the first time I sent it through
> So here goes again :-)
> Many thanks in advance
> 
> Darren
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
> Hi team
> 
> Does anyone know how I can determine the file name of a file after it has been
> dragged from (say the desktop) to an RTF field I have on an Access form?
> 
> Basically I be will writing a reasonably simple import routine for a determined
> file type
> 
> Normally I would have a text box on a form that stores the path and allow users
> to invoke a browse dialogue box.
> 
> But I'd rather just let the user 'drag' the file and drop it onto a
> pre-determined place (The RTF Field) on one of my forms - get the file name and
> then perform the import routine as if the file name was added to some field by
> the browse dialogue box
> 
> Make sense?
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 


From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Tue Dec 22 08:11:40 2009
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:11:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Getting query fields into a report [WAS: Try this one
	again]
In-Reply-To: <4B308746.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
References: <4B2F5718.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
	<90B1D9F96E694C6398D87C4FEB39A544@reubennx9500>
	<4B308746.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <4B308D4B.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>

To clarify this problem a bit...I was a little flustered this morning, and doing too many things at once...I can call a "basic" field, but for some reason, I am unable to call a "created" field. What I mean is, if I call "txtWitLName" I get the witness' last name w/no problem, however what I've done in the query, is to combine the last name and first name, into a single field
 
Witness: [txtWitFName] & " " & [txtWitLName]
 
for some reason it doesn't like this, and I always thought these fields were really no different than the others.
 
I also have to convert the number fields into text...this thing was suppose to be a quickie!

>>> "John Clark" <John.Clark at niagaracounty.com> 12/22/2009 8:45 AM >>>
OK, I am taking your advice, and I've started doing this. I'm finding that isn't all that bad, and I think it will look alright. The trouble I am now having though, is that I am unable to bring the data into the paragraph. In the code, for the OnLoad event of the form, I am doing this:

Dim P1, P2, P3 As String

P1 = Witness
P1 = P1 + " - Being duly sworn, says that he/she attended as a witness on behalf of the People "
P1 = P1 + "before the above court, pursuant to a subpoena or at the request of the District "
P1 = P1 + "Attorney and that he traveled from the City/Town/Village of "
P1 = P1 + txtWitCity
P1 = P1 + ", in the State of New York, which said place is "
P1 = P1 + numMileage
P1 = P1 + " miles from the Court House in the City of Lockport."

Me.lblParaOne.Caption = P1


I've tried other things, but what is the code for getting a field (Witness, txtWitCity, numMileage) out of the query? I don't need to do this the "long" way do I?

>>> "Reuben Cummings" <accessd at gfconsultants.com> 12/21/2009 11:44 AM >>>
I would stick with Access reports.  I make all kinds of reports for
government work all using Access.  And if the formatting is tough to copy
you'd be surprised what you can convince people to change to.
I've nearly changed the culture of "claims" in the state of Indiana.  The
old form was ridiculous - and I couldn't match it.  So I convinced one
county to change years ago and now it's on the verge of being the standard.

And if you are placing parts of your data into pre-worded paragraphs (the
paragraph wording is pre-defined other than your data) do all the paragraph
building in code.   

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017
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From ssharkins at gmail.com  Tue Dec 22 08:19:22 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:19:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access security
Message-ID: <8E445F7E46C243D08215AD60C877700A@SusanOne>

A reader has asked about Access workgroups security and I told him the 
truth -- won't keep out the determined, but a good security setup 
nonetheless. Now he wants to know what is. I should've heard that coming...

I'd like to hear thoughts on Access security and alternatives -- strictly 
opinion and war stories, you don't have to tell me how to use it! ;)

Susan H. 



From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Tue Dec 22 08:27:17 2009
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:27:17 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Getting query fields into a report [WAS: Try	this
	oneagain]
In-Reply-To: <4B308D4B.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
References: <4B2F5718.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
	<90B1D9F96E694C6398D87C4FEB39A544@reubennx9500>
	<4B308746.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
	<4B308D4B.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <4B3090F4.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>

OK...This is getting flippin' weird!!! After writing this, I decided to change up slightly, and instead of relying on combining the first and last names, in the query, I decided to do it, right in the report itself. I added the code, "P1 = [txtWitFName] & " " & [txtWitLName]" at the top, and this worked perfectly. So, I went ahead w/the code for the 2nd paragraph, and when I finished and tested it, the code errs out on the original paragraph and says, "Microsoft Office Access can't find the field 'txtWitFName' referred to in your expression." Are you kidding?! It just found it a moment ago!!!
 
It is a conspiracy I tell you...someone is screwing w/me. They are jealous that I still have my hair and that it is not grey...and they are trying to get me to rip it out...and they're doing a bang up job this morning, I tell you!

>>> "John Clark" <John.Clark at niagaracounty.com> 12/22/2009 9:11 AM >>>
To clarify this problem a bit...I was a little flustered this morning, and doing too many things at once...I can call a "basic" field, but for some reason, I am unable to call a "created" field. What I mean is, if I call "txtWitLName" I get the witness' last name w/no problem, however what I've done in the query, is to combine the last name and first name, into a single field

Witness: [txtWitFName] & " " & [txtWitLName]

for some reason it doesn't like this, and I always thought these fields were really no different than the others.

I also have to convert the number fields into text...this thing was suppose to be a quickie!

>>> "John Clark" <John.Clark at niagaracounty.com> 12/22/2009 8:45 AM >>>
OK, I am taking your advice, and I've started doing this. I'm finding that isn't all that bad, and I think it will look alright. The trouble I am now having though, is that I am unable to bring the data into the paragraph. In the code, for the OnLoad event of the form, I am doing this:

Dim P1, P2, P3 As String

P1 = Witness
P1 = P1 + " - Being duly sworn, says that he/she attended as a witness on behalf of the People "
P1 = P1 + "before the above court, pursuant to a subpoena or at the request of the District "
P1 = P1 + "Attorney and that he traveled from the City/Town/Village of "
P1 = P1 + txtWitCity
P1 = P1 + ", in the State of New York, which said place is "
P1 = P1 + numMileage
P1 = P1 + " miles from the Court House in the City of Lockport."

Me.lblParaOne.Caption = P1


I've tried other things, but what is the code for getting a field (Witness, txtWitCity, numMileage) out of the query? I don't need to do this the "long" way do I?

>>> "Reuben Cummings" <accessd at gfconsultants.com> 12/21/2009 11:44 AM >>>
I would stick with Access reports.  I make all kinds of reports for
government work all using Access.  And if the formatting is tough to copy
you'd be surprised what you can convince people to change to.
I've nearly changed the culture of "claims" in the state of Indiana.  The
old form was ridiculous - and I couldn't match it.  So I convinced one
county to change years ago and now it's on the verge of being the standard.

And if you are placing parts of your data into pre-worded paragraphs (the
paragraph wording is pre-defined other than your data) do all the paragraph
building in code.   

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017
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From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Tue Dec 22 08:27:56 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:27:56 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access security
In-Reply-To: <8E445F7E46C243D08215AD60C877700A@SusanOne>
References: <8E445F7E46C243D08215AD60C877700A@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <4b30d7a1.0506d00a.3799.ffffb3fa@mx.google.com>

Hi Susan,

Well as you know I am a big fan of TrueCrypt, so that would always be  my
first option.

Additional to that I would say 1) Use and MDE 2) use Access encryption on
the BE (may slow some DBs down but I have never noticed it) and password
protect the FE and the BE. 3)use  your  OWN library which is not stored in
the same location and contains some code which is frequently required by
your program (mde).

All the additional stuff above is crackable.  The TrueCrypt is not crackable
- at all!

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: 22 December 2009 14:19
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Access security

A reader has asked about Access workgroups security and I told him the 
truth -- won't keep out the determined, but a good security setup 
nonetheless. Now he wants to know what is. I should've heard that coming...

I'd like to hear thoughts on Access security and alternatives -- strictly 
opinion and war stories, you don't have to tell me how to use it! ;)

Susan H. 

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From darren at activebilling.com.au  Tue Dec 22 08:43:47 2009
From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren - Active Billing)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 01:43:47 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Get file name after drag and drop_SecondSend
In-Reply-To: <4B30CE8A.50305@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <043c01ca7a02$c60ffbe0$301b910a@denzilnote><013501ca82b0$8e67e930$301b910a@denzilnote>
	<4B30CE8A.50305@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <01a801ca8315$2c7cf8e0$301b910a@denzilnote>

Hi john
Thanks for the reply
I want a client to drag and drop file onto a field on one of my forms
I want to know if Access can determine the name of the file that was 'dropped'
on that form or field in some mouse up routine
So this is in order to get a value into MyControl.value

Many thanks
 
Darren


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Wednesday, 23 December 2009 12:50 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K:Get file name after drag and drop_SecondSend

If the name is in a control, then MyControl.value should give you the contents
of that control.

Or am I missing something?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Darren - Active Billing wrote:
> Hi team
> 
> Merry Christmas to all
> I had no response on this one the first time I sent it through
> So here goes again :-)
> Many thanks in advance
> 
> Darren
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
> Hi team
> 
> Does anyone know how I can determine the file name of a file after it has been
> dragged from (say the desktop) to an RTF field I have on an Access form?
> 
> Basically I be will writing a reasonably simple import routine for a
determined
> file type
> 
> Normally I would have a text box on a form that stores the path and allow
users
> to invoke a browse dialogue box.
> 
> But I'd rather just let the user 'drag' the file and drop it onto a
> pre-determined place (The RTF Field) on one of my forms - get the file name
and
> then perform the import routine as if the file name was added to some field by
> the browse dialogue box
> 
> Make sense?
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
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From dbdoug at gmail.com  Tue Dec 22 08:47:12 2009
From: dbdoug at gmail.com (Doug Steele)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:47:12 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Access security
In-Reply-To: <8E445F7E46C243D08215AD60C877700A@SusanOne>
References: <8E445F7E46C243D08215AD60C877700A@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <4dd71a0c0912220647u6124327q77aa03ac96a0a933@mail.gmail.com>

The only time I've had a need for real data security - a payroll database -
we decided that the easiest method was to use the existing network
security.  It was truly secure and easily modifiable as needed by the
network administrator on site.  So I just made two BE databases for the FE;
the confidential BE was on a drive only accessible by payroll personnel, the
'open' BE on a publicly accessible disk share.  The FE to confidential BE
linking code would just exit gracefully if it failed.

We password protected the open BE as well, just to keep out the curious, but
a couple of weeks after implementing this I had a conversation with one of
the (electrical) engineers there.  He told me the password and asked why
we'd bothered!

Doug


On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:

> A reader has asked about Access workgroups security and I told him the
> truth -- won't keep out the determined, but a good security setup
> nonetheless. Now he wants to know what is. I should've heard that coming...
>
> I'd like to hear thoughts on Access security and alternatives -- strictly
> opinion and war stories, you don't have to tell me how to use it! ;)
>
> Susan H.
>
> --
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> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
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>


From accessd at gfconsultants.com  Tue Dec 22 08:47:49 2009
From: accessd at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:47:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Try this one again
In-Reply-To: <4B308746.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <D92C9D4AFFC04F6988BCE8F6C8D6724B@reubennx9500>

First, the reports recordsource is this query, correct?
I would then place all the fields on the report and hide them (visible =
false).
And while Witness may work I always use me.Witness (easier for me to follow
where witness is coming from).

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 8:46 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Try this one again
> 
> 
> OK, I am taking your advice, and I've started doing this. I'm 
> finding that isn't all that bad, and I think it will look 
> alright. The trouble I am now having though, is that I am 
> unable to bring the data into the paragraph. In the code, for 
> the OnLoad event of the form, I am doing this:
>  
> Dim P1, P2, P3 As String
>  
> P1 = Witness
> P1 = P1 + " - Being duly sworn, says that he/she attended as 
> a witness on behalf of the People "
> P1 = P1 + "before the above court, pursuant to a subpoena or 
> at the request of the District "
> P1 = P1 + "Attorney and that he traveled from the 
> City/Town/Village of "
> P1 = P1 + txtWitCity
> P1 = P1 + ", in the State of New York, which said place is "
> P1 = P1 + numMileage
> P1 = P1 + " miles from the Court House in the City of Lockport."
>  
> Me.lblParaOne.Caption = P1
>  
>  
> I've tried other things, but what is the code for getting a 
> field (Witness, txtWitCity, numMileage) out of the query? I 
> don't need to do this the "long" way do I?
> 
> >>> "Reuben Cummings" <accessd at gfconsultants.com> 12/21/2009 
> 11:44 AM >>>
> I would stick with Access reports.  I make all kinds of reports for
> government work all using Access.  And if the formatting is 
> tough to copy
> you'd be surprised what you can convince people to change to.
> I've nearly changed the culture of "claims" in the state of 
> Indiana.  The
> old form was ridiculous - and I couldn't match it.  So I convinced one
> county to change years ago and now it's on the verge of being 
> the standard.
> 
> And if you are placing parts of your data into pre-worded 
> paragraphs (the
> paragraph wording is pre-defined other than your data) do all 
> the paragraph
> building in code.   
> 
> Reuben Cummings
> GFC, LLC
> 812.523.1017
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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Tue Dec 22 08:55:10 2009
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Mike Mattys)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:55:10 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Get file name after drag and drop_SecondSend
References: <043c01ca7a02$c60ffbe0$301b910a@denzilnote><013501ca82b0$8e67e930$301b910a@denzilnote><4B30CE8A.50305@colbyconsulting.com>
	<01a801ca8315$2c7cf8e0$301b910a@denzilnote>
Message-ID: <B888A7D5E7A54CDB8791DE8942CAB70B@Mattys>

Darren,

You might try here:
http://digitalpbk.blogspot.com/2006/12/drag-n-drop-files-from-explorer-to-vb.html
I looked through a few pages, this one looks pretty good.
-
Michael R Mattys
MapPoint and Database Dev
www.mattysconsulting.com
-
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darren - Active Billing" <darren at activebilling.com.au>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K:Get file name after drag and drop_SecondSend


> Hi john
> Thanks for the reply
> I want a client to drag and drop file onto a field on one of my forms
> I want to know if Access can determine the name of the file that was 
> 'dropped'
> on that form or field in some mouse up routine
> So this is in order to get a value into MyControl.value
>
> Many thanks
>
> Darren
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 December 2009 12:50 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K:Get file name after drag and drop_SecondSend
>
> If the name is in a control, then MyControl.value should give you the 
> contents
> of that control.
>
> Or am I missing something?
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>
> Darren - Active Billing wrote:
>> Hi team
>>
>> Merry Christmas to all
>> I had no response on this one the first time I sent it through
>> So here goes again :-)
>> Many thanks in advance
>>
>> Darren
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Hi team
>>
>> Does anyone know how I can determine the file name of a file after it has 
>> been
>> dragged from (say the desktop) to an RTF field I have on an Access form?
>>
>> Basically I be will writing a reasonably simple import routine for a
> determined
>> file type
>>
>> Normally I would have a text box on a form that stores the path and allow
> users
>> to invoke a browse dialogue box.
>>
>> But I'd rather just let the user 'drag' the file and drop it onto a
>> pre-determined place (The RTF Field) on one of my forms - get the file 
>> name
> and
>> then perform the import routine as if the file name was added to some 
>> field by
>> the browse dialogue box
>>
>> Make sense?
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
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From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Tue Dec 22 08:54:41 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:54:41 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access security
In-Reply-To: <4dd71a0c0912220647u6124327q77aa03ac96a0a933@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8E445F7E46C243D08215AD60C877700A@SusanOne>
	<4dd71a0c0912220647u6124327q77aa03ac96a0a933@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4b30dde9.1c07d00a.4428.1101@mx.google.com>

Doug, that is interesting.

Was the BE password stored in code or in a shortcut etc or is it typed in by
each user when first opening it?

If the first, then he must have taken steps to deliberately uncover the pwd.
If the later, then  there may be a keylogger on somebody's PC.


Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Steele
Sent: 22 December 2009 14:47
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access security

The only time I've had a need for real data security - a payroll database -
we decided that the easiest method was to use the existing network
security.  It was truly secure and easily modifiable as needed by the
network administrator on site.  So I just made two BE databases for the FE;
the confidential BE was on a drive only accessible by payroll personnel, the
'open' BE on a publicly accessible disk share.  The FE to confidential BE
linking code would just exit gracefully if it failed.

We password protected the open BE as well, just to keep out the curious, but
a couple of weeks after implementing this I had a conversation with one of
the (electrical) engineers there.  He told me the password and asked why
we'd bothered!

Doug


On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:

> A reader has asked about Access workgroups security and I told him the
> truth -- won't keep out the determined, but a good security setup
> nonetheless. Now he wants to know what is. I should've heard that
coming...
>
> I'd like to hear thoughts on Access security and alternatives -- strictly
> opinion and war stories, you don't have to tell me how to use it! ;)
>
> Susan H.
>
> --
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> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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From jm.hwsn at gmail.com  Tue Dec 22 09:02:57 2009
From: jm.hwsn at gmail.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:02:57 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] <\Div>
References: <aea6c4950911171416l5e8a0bbele74b4ebdffbb2286@mail.gmail.com>
	<928704.81873.qm@web50405.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4b30dfcd.5444f10a.30b0.1a77@mx.google.com>

I know this is a little late; I've been having email issues.  I could read
them, but not respond to them.
Anyway - if you're still looking for a solution.

The "<\Div>" is html for storing part of the RTF formatting of the memo
field I Access 2007.
It marks the beginning and end of a line.
It is seen when looking at the field contents in a datasheet or with Plain
Text chosen in the Text format of the field.  If you look at the field
through a form with the RTF turned on they won't show. 

To get rid of them there are a couple of things you can do...
1.  Ensure the format in the field definition in the table is Plain text.
2.  Ensure the format for each text box is also Plain text.
3.  Once the field definition and text box are formatted to plain text then
the markers will need to be deleted in each field.

If you want to maintain the RTF formatting...
1.  Do the reverse of the above -- turn on RTF at the record level and at
each text box 
2.  If you want to use the field in a combo box or list box the codes will
show up again...
However, there is an undocumented function named PlainText(fieldname) that
will strip the markers and convert the RTF for viewing as plain text.

HTH

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dale Kalsow
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 7:06 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] <\Div>

I do not want it in the table and it is showing up when the user enters that
data in the form.
?
Dale

--- On Tue, 11/17/09, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] <\Div>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 4:16 PM


So you want that to show or you are wondering where it is coming from
or what?? That would appear to be some sort of HTML code delimiter or
something. Perhaps the form is just ignoring it as a formatting code
or something. The bigger question to me is how the heck did it get
into the table data if it's not supposed to be there.? Where did the
data in the table come from?? Was it entered from that form that now
doesn't show those delimiters?? If so then something on the form must
be adding them to the data.

Good luck figuring it out Dale.

GK

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Dale Kalsow <dkalsow at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I am getting this <\Div>? at the begining and end of a text field.?
However it only shows up in the table and on a report not when the user goes
into the form.? Has anyone seen this before or have any idea how to fix it?
>
> thanks!
>
> Dale
>
>
>
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From dbdoug at gmail.com  Tue Dec 22 09:13:57 2009
From: dbdoug at gmail.com (Doug Steele)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:13:57 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Access security
In-Reply-To: <4b30dde9.1c07d00a.4428.1101@mx.google.com>
References: <8E445F7E46C243D08215AD60C877700A@SusanOne>
	<4dd71a0c0912220647u6124327q77aa03ac96a0a933@mail.gmail.com>
	<4b30dde9.1c07d00a.4428.1101@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <4dd71a0c0912220713r1dcc0e29tf8d3a756fbd68e62@mail.gmail.com>

It was just the usual Access Tools/Security/Set Database Password type of
password.  He cracked it as soon as he discovered the db was protected.  He
was presumably cruising the server hard drives for interesting material.  We
had a couple of very bright but incorrigibly nosy engineers working there.
It was a small engineering subsidiary of a large mining company; the
engineers were the reason for our existence, so there was no question of any
disciplinary action.

Doug

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 6:54 AM, Max Wanadoo <max.wanadoo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Doug, that is interesting.
>
> Was the BE password stored in code or in a shortcut etc or is it typed in
> by
> each user when first opening it?
>
> If the first, then he must have taken steps to deliberately uncover the
> pwd.
> If the later, then  there may be a keylogger on somebody's PC.
>
>
> Max
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Steele
> Sent: 22 December 2009 14:47
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access security
>
> The only time I've had a need for real data security - a payroll database -
> we decided that the easiest method was to use the existing network
> security.  It was truly secure and easily modifiable as needed by the
> network administrator on site.  So I just made two BE databases for the FE;
> the confidential BE was on a drive only accessible by payroll personnel,
> the
> 'open' BE on a publicly accessible disk share.  The FE to confidential BE
> linking code would just exit gracefully if it failed.
>
> We password protected the open BE as well, just to keep out the curious,
> but
> a couple of weeks after implementing this I had a conversation with one of
> the (electrical) engineers there.  He told me the password and asked why
> we'd bothered!
>
> Doug
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > A reader has asked about Access workgroups security and I told him the
> > truth -- won't keep out the determined, but a good security setup
> > nonetheless. Now he wants to know what is. I should've heard that
> coming...
> >
> > I'd like to hear thoughts on Access security and alternatives -- strictly
> > opinion and war stories, you don't have to tell me how to use it! ;)
> >
> > Susan H.
> >
> > --
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
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From darren at activebilling.com.au  Tue Dec 22 09:38:37 2009
From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren - Active Billing)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 02:38:37 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Get file name after drag and drop_SecondSend
In-Reply-To: <B888A7D5E7A54CDB8791DE8942CAB70B@Mattys>
References: <043c01ca7a02$c60ffbe0$301b910a@denzilnote><013501ca82b0$8e67e930$301b910a@denzilnote><4B30CE8A.50305@colbyconsulting.com><01a801ca8315$2c7cf8e0$301b910a@denzilnote>
	<B888A7D5E7A54CDB8791DE8942CAB70B@Mattys>
Message-ID: <022201ca831c$d57666f0$301b910a@denzilnote>

Hi Matt
Looks promising - I can get no further now - I keep getting an error 
File not found vba332.dll
So I found a copy of vba332.dll on the net and put it in the local folder of the
dB. No good then dropped it into C:\Windows\System32 still no good
Then in desperation I tried to register it via access but was told it wasn't
that sort of file
I also then tried (in utter desperation) to create a reference to - that too
failed
So sadly that's the end for me

Any suggestions?

Many thanks
 
Darren 


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike Mattys
Sent: Wednesday, 23 December 2009 1:55 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K:Get file name after drag and drop_SecondSend

Darren,

You might try here:
http://digitalpbk.blogspot.com/2006/12/drag-n-drop-files-from-explorer-to-vb.htm
l
I looked through a few pages, this one looks pretty good.
-
Michael R Mattys
MapPoint and Database Dev
www.mattysconsulting.com
-
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darren - Active Billing" <darren at activebilling.com.au>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K:Get file name after drag and drop_SecondSend


> Hi john
> Thanks for the reply
> I want a client to drag and drop file onto a field on one of my forms
> I want to know if Access can determine the name of the file that was 
> 'dropped'
> on that form or field in some mouse up routine
> So this is in order to get a value into MyControl.value
>
> Many thanks
>
> Darren
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 December 2009 12:50 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K:Get file name after drag and drop_SecondSend
>
> If the name is in a control, then MyControl.value should give you the 
> contents
> of that control.
>
> Or am I missing something?
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>
> Darren - Active Billing wrote:
>> Hi team
>>
>> Merry Christmas to all
>> I had no response on this one the first time I sent it through
>> So here goes again :-)
>> Many thanks in advance
>>
>> Darren
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Hi team
>>
>> Does anyone know how I can determine the file name of a file after it has 
>> been
>> dragged from (say the desktop) to an RTF field I have on an Access form?
>>
>> Basically I be will writing a reasonably simple import routine for a
> determined
>> file type
>>
>> Normally I would have a text box on a form that stores the path and allow
> users
>> to invoke a browse dialogue box.
>>
>> But I'd rather just let the user 'drag' the file and drop it onto a
>> pre-determined place (The RTF Field) on one of my forms - get the file 
>> name
> and
>> then perform the import routine as if the file name was added to some 
>> field by
>> the browse dialogue box
>>
>> Make sense?
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
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From mmattys at rochester.rr.com  Tue Dec 22 09:46:57 2009
From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com (Mike Mattys)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:46:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Get file name after drag and drop_SecondSend
References: <043c01ca7a02$c60ffbe0$301b910a@denzilnote><013501ca82b0$8e67e930$301b910a@denzilnote><4B30CE8A.50305@colbyconsulting.com><01a801ca8315$2c7cf8e0$301b910a@denzilnote><B888A7D5E7A54CDB8791DE8942CAB70B@Mattys>
	<022201ca831c$d57666f0$301b910a@denzilnote>
Message-ID: <C9EA4AB5337B4F37AE534D1923A6301C@Mattys>

Hi Darren,

vba332 is for Access 97, IIRC.

Not sure what you're calling it for, but you'd need
to use FindWindow/FindWindowEx to get the handle
of the form and the control when it's clicked
(Dev Ashish has a trick for that, I recall)

Maybe you're right, there are wider, less slippery paths
to follow than this one.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darren - Active Billing" <darren at activebilling.com.au>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K:Get file name after drag and drop_SecondSend


> Hi Matt
> Looks promising - I can get no further now - I keep getting an error
> File not found vba332.dll
> So I found a copy of vba332.dll on the net and put it in the local folder 
> of the
> dB. No good then dropped it into C:\Windows\System32 still no good
> Then in desperation I tried to register it via access but was told it 
> wasn't
> that sort of file
> I also then tried (in utter desperation) to create a reference to - that 
> too
> failed
> So sadly that's the end for me
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Darren
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike Mattys
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 December 2009 1:55 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K:Get file name after drag and drop_SecondSend
>
> Darren,
>
> You might try here:
> http://digitalpbk.blogspot.com/2006/12/drag-n-drop-files-from-explorer-to-vb.htm
> l
> I looked through a few pages, this one looks pretty good.
> -
> Michael R Mattys
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> www.mattysconsulting.com
> -
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Darren - Active Billing" <darren at activebilling.com.au>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 9:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K:Get file name after drag and drop_SecondSend
>
>
>> Hi john
>> Thanks for the reply
>> I want a client to drag and drop file onto a field on one of my forms
>> I want to know if Access can determine the name of the file that was
>> 'dropped'
>> on that form or field in some mouse up routine
>> So this is in order to get a value into MyControl.value
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>> Darren
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 December 2009 12:50 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K:Get file name after drag and drop_SecondSend
>>
>> If the name is in a control, then MyControl.value should give you the
>> contents
>> of that control.
>>
>> Or am I missing something?
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>>
>> Darren - Active Billing wrote:
>>> Hi team
>>>
>>> Merry Christmas to all
>>> I had no response on this one the first time I sent it through
>>> So here goes again :-)
>>> Many thanks in advance
>>>
>>> Darren
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>> Hi team
>>>
>>> Does anyone know how I can determine the file name of a file after it 
>>> has
>>> been
>>> dragged from (say the desktop) to an RTF field I have on an Access form?
>>>
>>> Basically I be will writing a reasonably simple import routine for a
>> determined
>>> file type
>>>
>>> Normally I would have a text box on a form that stores the path and 
>>> allow
>> users
>>> to invoke a browse dialogue box.
>>>
>>> But I'd rather just let the user 'drag' the file and drop it onto a
>>> pre-determined place (The RTF Field) on one of my forms - get the file
>>> name
>> and
>>> then perform the import routine as if the file name was added to some
>>> field by
>>> the browse dialogue box
>>>
>>> Make sense?
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Tue Dec 22 09:46:42 2009
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:46:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Try this one again
In-Reply-To: <D92C9D4AFFC04F6988BCE8F6C8D6724B@reubennx9500>
References: <4B308746.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
	<D92C9D4AFFC04F6988BCE8F6C8D6724B@reubennx9500>
Message-ID: <4B30A392.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>

Yes, it is Reuben. Actually, what I am doing, is running a query based on a form, which queries the main table, based on the current voucher number...the one distinguishing field. This will allow me to have one single record, and all of its fields, for the report. It was really the only way I could think to do it...to print a voucher for the active record..
 
I did the 1st paragraph this morning, and I got it all working...except for the number to text conversion that I put off until later. Now, it seems that nothing wants to work. I didn't do anything, but move on to paragraph #2

>>> "Reuben Cummings" <accessd at gfconsultants.com> 12/22/2009 9:47 AM >>>
First, the reports recordsource is this query, correct?
I would then place all the fields on the report and hide them (visible =
false).
And while Witness may work I always use me.Witness (easier for me to follow
where witness is coming from).

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 8:46 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Try this one again
> 
> 
> OK, I am taking your advice, and I've started doing this. I'm 
> finding that isn't all that bad, and I think it will look 
> alright. The trouble I am now having though, is that I am 
> unable to bring the data into the paragraph. In the code, for 
> the OnLoad event of the form, I am doing this:
>  
> Dim P1, P2, P3 As String
>  
> P1 = Witness
> P1 = P1 + " - Being duly sworn, says that he/she attended as 
> a witness on behalf of the People "
> P1 = P1 + "before the above court, pursuant to a subpoena or 
> at the request of the District "
> P1 = P1 + "Attorney and that he traveled from the 
> City/Town/Village of "
> P1 = P1 + txtWitCity
> P1 = P1 + ", in the State of New York, which said place is "
> P1 = P1 + numMileage
> P1 = P1 + " miles from the Court House in the City of Lockport."
>  
> Me.lblParaOne.Caption = P1
>  
>  
> I've tried other things, but what is the code for getting a 
> field (Witness, txtWitCity, numMileage) out of the query? I 
> don't need to do this the "long" way do I?
> 
> >>> "Reuben Cummings" <accessd at gfconsultants.com> 12/21/2009 
> 11:44 AM >>>
> I would stick with Access reports.  I make all kinds of reports for
> government work all using Access.  And if the formatting is 
> tough to copy
> you'd be surprised what you can convince people to change to.
> I've nearly changed the culture of "claims" in the state of 
> Indiana.  The
> old form was ridiculous - and I couldn't match it.  So I convinced one
> county to change years ago and now it's on the verge of being 
> the standard.
> 
> And if you are placing parts of your data into pre-worded 
> paragraphs (the
> paragraph wording is pre-defined other than your data) do all 
> the paragraph
> building in code.   
> 
> Reuben Cummings
> GFC, LLC
> 812.523.1017
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Dec 22 10:06:38 2009
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:06:38 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] List of Constants
In-Reply-To: <60CD501467974928B8FEA33F979916E3@HAL9005>
References: <CF5DD7A5A2354C13A3610394EABE7696@HAL9005>
	<6AB038EE21C249ED817BF7B83080D1FA@Mattys>
	<60CD501467974928B8FEA33F979916E3@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E343537E4@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>

Definitely.  The later constants are self explanatory, so they eliminate the issue going forward.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 5:58 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] List of Constants

What I should probably do then is update all of the legacy code that uses
DoMenuItem to RunCommand, yes?

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mike Mattys
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 10:38 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] List of Constants

Terry Wickenden has that covered.
http://www.accessruncommand.com/

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 1:32 PM
Subject: [AccessD] List of Constants


> Dear List:
>
> Does anyone know where there is a list of constants and what they refer 
> to?
>
> In a legacy app I find the following:
>
> DoCmd.DoMenuItem acFormBar, acRecordsMenu, 5, , acMenuVer70
>
> but can't find out what command 5 is.
>
>
>
> MTIA
>
>
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
>


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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Dec 22 10:08:18 2009
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:08:18 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Acronis Backup Software
In-Reply-To: <6ef6ac2c0912211833s26ee2en96fab45cfce773be@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6ef6ac2c0912211833s26ee2en96fab45cfce773be@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E343537E6@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>

I've used Acronis TrueImage and endorse it heartily.  However, I've never tried it on an SBS machine, so I can't help.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Janet Erbach
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 6:33 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Acronis Backup Software

Hello -

Does anyone have experience with Acronis Backup software installed on
Windows Small Business Server 2008?  I tried installing a trial version of
'Acronis Backup and Recover 10 Server for Windows'  and had alot of trouble
with it.  I've uninstalled that and am now installing the trial for the
'Advanced Service SBS Edition' and am a little appalled at how HUGE it is.
It took an hour to download the installation file, and the install itself is
going to take a good half hour.  I'm wondering if any of you have used it
and if it's worth the trouble.  I've been using, sort-of-successfully,
Casper to do my backups, and this is a monster compared to that!

Janet Erbach
IT Administrator
Natural Healthy Concepts
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Dec 22 10:10:51 2009
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:10:51 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Getting query fields into a report [WAS: Try this
	one	again]
In-Reply-To: <4B308D4B.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
References: <4B2F5718.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
	<90B1D9F96E694C6398D87C4FEB39A544@reubennx9500>
	<4B308746.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
	<4B308D4B.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E343537E9@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>

I'm coming into this later, but are txtWitFName and txtWitLName table fields?  You can't reference report controls in a query.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 6:12 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Getting query fields into a report [WAS: Try this one again]

To clarify this problem a bit...I was a little flustered this morning, and doing too many things at once...I can call a "basic" field, but for some reason, I am unable to call a "created" field. What I mean is, if I call "txtWitLName" I get the witness' last name w/no problem, however what I've done in the query, is to combine the last name and first name, into a single field
 
Witness: [txtWitFName] & " " & [txtWitLName]
 
for some reason it doesn't like this, and I always thought these fields were really no different than the others.
 
I also have to convert the number fields into text...this thing was suppose to be a quickie!

>>> "John Clark" <John.Clark at niagaracounty.com> 12/22/2009 8:45 AM >>>
OK, I am taking your advice, and I've started doing this. I'm finding that isn't all that bad, and I think it will look alright. The trouble I am now having though, is that I am unable to bring the data into the paragraph. In the code, for the OnLoad event of the form, I am doing this:

Dim P1, P2, P3 As String

P1 = Witness
P1 = P1 + " - Being duly sworn, says that he/she attended as a witness on behalf of the People "
P1 = P1 + "before the above court, pursuant to a subpoena or at the request of the District "
P1 = P1 + "Attorney and that he traveled from the City/Town/Village of "
P1 = P1 + txtWitCity
P1 = P1 + ", in the State of New York, which said place is "
P1 = P1 + numMileage
P1 = P1 + " miles from the Court House in the City of Lockport."

Me.lblParaOne.Caption = P1


I've tried other things, but what is the code for getting a field (Witness, txtWitCity, numMileage) out of the query? I don't need to do this the "long" way do I?

>>> "Reuben Cummings" <accessd at gfconsultants.com> 12/21/2009 11:44 AM >>>
I would stick with Access reports.  I make all kinds of reports for
government work all using Access.  And if the formatting is tough to copy
you'd be surprised what you can convince people to change to.
I've nearly changed the culture of "claims" in the state of Indiana.  The
old form was ridiculous - and I couldn't match it.  So I convinced one
county to change years ago and now it's on the verge of being the standard.

And if you are placing parts of your data into pre-worded paragraphs (the
paragraph wording is pre-defined other than your data) do all the paragraph
building in code.   

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017
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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Tue Dec 22 10:14:46 2009
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:14:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Try this one again
In-Reply-To: <4B30A392.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
References: <4B308746.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
	<D92C9D4AFFC04F6988BCE8F6C8D6724B@reubennx9500>
	<4B30A392.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <4B30AA25.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>

Well, Reuben (and others), I don't understand why it made a difference, but this appears to have been the problem...I added all fields, that I am using, to the report, at the bottom (I'll hide them later), and it is complying much better for me.
 
Isn't there a way to grow/shrink the labels? I've never done it, but I thought there was a way to do this. My paragraph spacing, I'm afraid, will be subject to various spacing and I'd like to make it more dynamic. Eh...I can live w/this, if I get down to it being the only issue.
 
Now it is on to converting numbers to text...AND, something I failed to recognize, when I first planned out this project, parsing out the date. I don't think it will be real difficult, but I'm already behind, and I'm trying to finish this thing up, so I can enjoy a vacation w/out thinking about this place. Basically, the date December 1, 2009, will have to read "...on this 1 day of December, 2009" I may go fancy and add the "st" "nd" "rd", etc. as well. But, that isn't a necessity to them...I'm more particular than they are I think.

>>> "John Clark" <John.Clark at niagaracounty.com> 12/22/2009 10:46 AM >>>
Yes, it is Reuben. Actually, what I am doing, is running a query based on a form, which queries the main table, based on the current voucher number...the one distinguishing field. This will allow me to have one single record, and all of its fields, for the report. It was really the only way I could think to do it...to print a voucher for the active record..

I did the 1st paragraph this morning, and I got it all working...except for the number to text conversion that I put off until later. Now, it seems that nothing wants to work. I didn't do anything, but move on to paragraph #2

>>> "Reuben Cummings" <accessd at gfconsultants.com> 12/22/2009 9:47 AM >>>
First, the reports recordsource is this query, correct?
I would then place all the fields on the report and hide them (visible =
false).
And while Witness may work I always use me.Witness (easier for me to follow
where witness is coming from).

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 8:46 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Try this one again
> 
> 
> OK, I am taking your advice, and I've started doing this. I'm 
> finding that isn't all that bad, and I think it will look 
> alright. The trouble I am now having though, is that I am 
> unable to bring the data into the paragraph. In the code, for 
> the OnLoad event of the form, I am doing this:
>  
> Dim P1, P2, P3 As String
>  
> P1 = Witness
> P1 = P1 + " - Being duly sworn, says that he/she attended as 
> a witness on behalf of the People "
> P1 = P1 + "before the above court, pursuant to a subpoena or 
> at the request of the District "
> P1 = P1 + "Attorney and that he traveled from the 
> City/Town/Village of "
> P1 = P1 + txtWitCity
> P1 = P1 + ", in the State of New York, which said place is "
> P1 = P1 + numMileage
> P1 = P1 + " miles from the Court House in the City of Lockport."
>  
> Me.lblParaOne.Caption = P1
>  
>  
> I've tried other things, but what is the code for getting a 
> field (Witness, txtWitCity, numMileage) out of the query? I 
> don't need to do this the "long" way do I?
> 
> >>> "Reuben Cummings" <accessd at gfconsultants.com> 12/21/2009 
> 11:44 AM >>>
> I would stick with Access reports.  I make all kinds of reports for
> government work all using Access.  And if the formatting is 
> tough to copy
> you'd be surprised what you can convince people to change to.
> I've nearly changed the culture of "claims" in the state of 
> Indiana.  The
> old form was ridiculous - and I couldn't match it.  So I convinced one
> county to change years ago and now it's on the verge of being 
> the standard.
> 
> And if you are placing parts of your data into pre-worded 
> paragraphs (the
> paragraph wording is pre-defined other than your data) do all 
> the paragraph
> building in code.   
> 
> Reuben Cummings
> GFC, LLC
> 812.523.1017
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Dec 22 10:15:29 2009
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:15:29 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Try this one again
In-Reply-To: <4B30A392.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
References: <4B308746.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
	<D92C9D4AFFC04F6988BCE8F6C8D6724B@reubennx9500>
	<4B30A392.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E343537EC@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>

An easier way would be to pass the required parameters for the report to the voucher report and let it populate itself either creating its SQL in code or passing the parameters to a query.  Trying to make everything "see" everything else is a good way to bring on a migraine.

Charlotte Foust




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Dec 22 10:18:12 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:18:12 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Multimonitor toolbar
Message-ID: <4B30F144.6090504@colbyconsulting.com>

I just found this, WAY COOL!  It puts a toolbar at the bottom of the second monitor that displays 
the icons for the programs being displayed on the second monitor.

How come no one told me about this?

http://www.mediachance.com/free/multimon.htm


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From jimdettman at verizon.net  Tue Dec 22 10:21:02 2009
From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:21:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Access security
In-Reply-To: <8E445F7E46C243D08215AD60C877700A@SusanOne>
References: <8E445F7E46C243D08215AD60C877700A@SusanOne>
Message-ID: <D16E6F5013994E0491B4648F5B1CD29A@XPS>

<< Now he wants to know what is.>>

 Move the data to SQL server and forget about JET.

Jim.
 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 9:19 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Access security

A reader has asked about Access workgroups security and I told him the 
truth -- won't keep out the determined, but a good security setup 
nonetheless. Now he wants to know what is. I should've heard that coming...

I'd like to hear thoughts on Access security and alternatives -- strictly 
opinion and war stories, you don't have to tell me how to use it! ;)

Susan H. 

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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Tue Dec 22 10:24:20 2009
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:24:20 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Multimonitor toolbar
In-Reply-To: <4B30F144.6090504@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B30F144.6090504@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E34353800@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>

That is COOL, indeed!  I sent the link to everybody in my office, since we all use multiple monitors.  Thanks John.

Charlotte

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 8:18 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving; VBA
Subject: [AccessD] Multimonitor toolbar

I just found this, WAY COOL!  It puts a toolbar at the bottom of the second monitor that displays 
the icons for the programs being displayed on the second monitor.

How come no one told me about this?

http://www.mediachance.com/free/multimon.htm


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From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Tue Dec 22 10:25:53 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:25:53 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access security
In-Reply-To: <4dd71a0c0912220713r1dcc0e29tf8d3a756fbd68e62@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8E445F7E46C243D08215AD60C877700A@SusanOne>	<4dd71a0c0912220647u6124327q77aa03ac96a0a933@mail.gmail.com>	<4b30dde9.1c07d00a.4428.1101@mx.google.com>
	<4dd71a0c0912220713r1dcc0e29tf8d3a756fbd68e62@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4b30f353.0a1ad00a.7362.ffffc38b@mx.google.com>

Ha. And obviously had no work to do...<s>

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Steele
Sent: 22 December 2009 15:14
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access security

It was just the usual Access Tools/Security/Set Database Password type of
password.  He cracked it as soon as he discovered the db was protected.  He
was presumably cruising the server hard drives for interesting material.  We
had a couple of very bright but incorrigibly nosy engineers working there.
It was a small engineering subsidiary of a large mining company; the
engineers were the reason for our existence, so there was no question of any
disciplinary action.

Doug

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 6:54 AM, Max Wanadoo <max.wanadoo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Doug, that is interesting.
>
> Was the BE password stored in code or in a shortcut etc or is it typed in
> by
> each user when first opening it?
>
> If the first, then he must have taken steps to deliberately uncover the
> pwd.
> If the later, then  there may be a keylogger on somebody's PC.
>
>
> Max
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Steele
> Sent: 22 December 2009 14:47
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access security
>
> The only time I've had a need for real data security - a payroll database
-
> we decided that the easiest method was to use the existing network
> security.  It was truly secure and easily modifiable as needed by the
> network administrator on site.  So I just made two BE databases for the
FE;
> the confidential BE was on a drive only accessible by payroll personnel,
> the
> 'open' BE on a publicly accessible disk share.  The FE to confidential BE
> linking code would just exit gracefully if it failed.
>
> We password protected the open BE as well, just to keep out the curious,
> but
> a couple of weeks after implementing this I had a conversation with one of
> the (electrical) engineers there.  He told me the password and asked why
> we'd bothered!
>
> Doug
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > A reader has asked about Access workgroups security and I told him the
> > truth -- won't keep out the determined, but a good security setup
> > nonetheless. Now he wants to know what is. I should've heard that
> coming...
> >
> > I'd like to hear thoughts on Access security and alternatives --
strictly
> > opinion and war stories, you don't have to tell me how to use it! ;)
> >
> > Susan H.
> >
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From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com  Tue Dec 22 10:35:29 2009
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (Rusty Hammond)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:35:29 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Access security
In-Reply-To: <D16E6F5013994E0491B4648F5B1CD29A@XPS>
References: <8E445F7E46C243D08215AD60C877700A@SusanOne>
	<D16E6F5013994E0491B4648F5B1CD29A@XPS>
Message-ID: <49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB7217006D79325@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET>

I second the move to SQL server.  Even using the free SQL Server Express
you can implement security to the data based on individual users or
setup roles for groups of people.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:21 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access security

<< Now he wants to know what is.>>

 Move the data to SQL server and forget about JET.

Jim.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 9:19 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Access security

A reader has asked about Access workgroups security and I told him the
truth -- won't keep out the determined, but a good security setup
nonetheless. Now he wants to know what is. I should've heard that
coming...

I'd like to hear thoughts on Access security and alternatives --
strictly opinion and war stories, you don't have to tell me how to use
it! ;)

Susan H. 

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From dwaters at usinternet.com  Tue Dec 22 10:39:38 2009
From: dwaters at usinternet.com (Dan Waters)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:39:38 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Acronis Backup Software
In-Reply-To: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E343537E6@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
References: <6ef6ac2c0912211833s26ee2en96fab45cfce773be@mail.gmail.com>
	<AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E343537E6@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
Message-ID: <0C3D463263B74EE9B39E37F84BC000CA@danwaters>

I needed new backup software for Windows 7 and looked a few different ones.
I start at www.toptenreviews.com to see what the top sellers are, and then
go to reviews at www.newegg.com and www.amazon.com.  

For Acronis, some people really liked it and had good luck, but a larger
than typical number of people had a lot of trouble.  So I decided to update
to Ghost 15 from Ghost 9.  Ghost 15 has a nice feature where I can type in
the name of a file, and it will present me with a list of all the versions
of that file that have been backed up!  Ghost 15 has been working well for
several weeks now.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Acronis Backup Software

I've used Acronis TrueImage and endorse it heartily.  However, I've never
tried it on an SBS machine, so I can't help.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Janet Erbach
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 6:33 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Acronis Backup Software

Hello -

Does anyone have experience with Acronis Backup software installed on
Windows Small Business Server 2008?  I tried installing a trial version of
'Acronis Backup and Recover 10 Server for Windows'  and had alot of trouble
with it.  I've uninstalled that and am now installing the trial for the
'Advanced Service SBS Edition' and am a little appalled at how HUGE it is.
It took an hour to download the installation file, and the install itself is
going to take a good half hour.  I'm wondering if any of you have used it
and if it's worth the trouble.  I've been using, sort-of-successfully,
Casper to do my backups, and this is a monster compared to that!

Janet Erbach
IT Administrator
Natural Healthy Concepts
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Dec 22 10:52:27 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:52:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Multimonitor toolbar
In-Reply-To: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E34353800@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
References: <4B30F144.6090504@colbyconsulting.com>
	<AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E34353800@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
Message-ID: <4B30F94B.9090709@colbyconsulting.com>

Look closely at the top (title) bar of any program and you will now see a little arrow at the right 
hand side.  That arrow will move the program back and forth between the monitors.

I am loving this thing.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Charlotte Foust wrote:
> That is COOL, indeed!  I sent the link to everybody in my office, since we all use multiple monitors.  Thanks John.
> 
> Charlotte
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 8:18 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving; VBA
> Subject: [AccessD] Multimonitor toolbar
> 
> I just found this, WAY COOL!  It puts a toolbar at the bottom of the second monitor that displays 
> the icons for the programs being displayed on the second monitor.
> 
> How come no one told me about this?
> 
> http://www.mediachance.com/free/multimon.htm
> 
> 


From jm.hwsn at gmail.com  Tue Dec 22 11:13:35 2009
From: jm.hwsn at gmail.com (Jim Hewson)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:13:35 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Div tag in Text field
References: <aea6c4950911171416l5e8a0bbele74b4ebdffbb2286@mail.gmail.com>
	<928704.81873.qm@web50405.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4b30fe6d.5744f10a.37e7.26b9@mx.google.com>

I know this is a little late; I've been having email issues.  I could read
them, but not respond to them.  I had to change the subject to get this
email to go through.
Anyway - if you're still looking interested.

The "<\Div>" is html for storing part of the RTF formatting of the memo
field I Access 2007.
It marks the beginning and end of a line.
It is seen when looking at the field contents in a datasheet or with Plain
Text chosen in the Text format of the field.  If you look at the field
through a form with the RTF turned on they won't show. 

To get rid of them there are a couple of things you can do...
1.  Ensure the format in the field definition in the table is Plain text.
2.  Ensure the format for each text box is also Plain text.
3.  Once the field definition and text box are formatted to plain text then
the markers will need to be deleted in each field.

If you want to maintain the RTF formatting...
1.  Do the reverse of the above -- turn on RTF at the record level and at
each text box 
2.  If you want to use the field in a combo box or list box the codes will
show up again...
However, there is an undocumented function named PlainText(fieldname) that
will strip the markers and convert the RTF for viewing as plain text.

HTH

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dale Kalsow
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 7:06 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] <\Div>

I do not want it in the table and it is showing up when the user enters that
data in the form.
?
Dale

--- On Tue, 11/17/09, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] <\Div>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 4:16 PM


So you want that to show or you are wondering where it is coming from
or what?? That would appear to be some sort of HTML code delimiter or
something. Perhaps the form is just ignoring it as a formatting code
or something. The bigger question to me is how the heck did it get
into the table data if it's not supposed to be there.? Where did the
data in the table come from?? Was it entered from that form that now
doesn't show those delimiters?? If so then something on the form must
be adding them to the data.

Good luck figuring it out Dale.

GK

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Dale Kalsow <dkalsow at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I am getting this <\Div>? at the begining and end of a text field.?
However it only shows up in the table and on a report not when the user goes
into the form.? Has anyone seen this before or have any idea how to fix it?
>
> thanks!
>
> Dale
>
>
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From dbdoug at gmail.com  Tue Dec 22 11:19:14 2009
From: dbdoug at gmail.com (Doug Steele)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:19:14 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Acronis Backup Software
In-Reply-To: <6ef6ac2c0912211833s26ee2en96fab45cfce773be@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6ef6ac2c0912211833s26ee2en96fab45cfce773be@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4dd71a0c0912220919v24400f96k2c235ecc7a9137f6@mail.gmail.com>

I've used SyncBackPro for several years; it does all kinds of backups and
file syncing as well.

Doug Steele

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Janet Erbach <jerbach at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello -
>
> Does anyone have experience with Acronis Backup software installed on
> Windows Small Business Server 2008?  I tried installing a trial version of
> 'Acronis Backup and Recover 10 Server for Windows'  and had alot of trouble
> with it.  I've uninstalled that and am now installing the trial for the
> 'Advanced Service SBS Edition' and am a little appalled at how HUGE it is.
> It took an hour to download the installation file, and the install itself
> is
> going to take a good half hour.  I'm wondering if any of you have used it
> and if it's worth the trouble.  I've been using, sort-of-successfully,
> Casper to do my backups, and this is a monster compared to that!
>
> Janet Erbach
> IT Administrator
> Natural Healthy Concepts
> www.naturalhealthyconcepts.com
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Dec 22 11:47:26 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:47:26 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Multimonitor toolbar
In-Reply-To: <4B30F144.6090504@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B30F144.6090504@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <4EA5103E643046FAAAED27CA845A3FA9@HAL9005>

Beautiful!  It also adds an icon at the top right of each window next to the
minimize button to send the window back and forth between the monitors.

Thanks!
Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 8:18 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving; VBA
Subject: [AccessD] Multimonitor toolbar

I just found this, WAY COOL!  It puts a toolbar at the bottom of the second
monitor that displays the icons for the programs being displayed on the
second monitor.

How come no one told me about this?

http://www.mediachance.com/free/multimon.htm


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From accessd at gfconsultants.com  Tue Dec 22 12:05:22 2009
From: accessd at gfconsultants.com (Reuben Cummings)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:05:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Try this one again
In-Reply-To: <4B30AA25.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
Message-ID: <D8D41AB1E99A4E629CE1148B8DE80BB6@reubennx9500>

John, there is code out there for converting dollars to text.  I assume you
want 20.50 to read "Twenty dollars and 50 cents"
Google "q210586" for the knowledge base article on it.  Copy and paste the
code.

To parse the date as you mentioned look into Datepart.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 11:15 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Try this one again
> 
> 
> Well, Reuben (and others), I don't understand why it made a 
> difference, but this appears to have been the problem...I 
> added all fields, that I am using, to the report, at the 
> bottom (I'll hide them later), and it is complying much better for me.
>  
> Isn't there a way to grow/shrink the labels? I've never done 
> it, but I thought there was a way to do this. My paragraph 
> spacing, I'm afraid, will be subject to various spacing and 
> I'd like to make it more dynamic. Eh...I can live w/this, if 
> I get down to it being the only issue.
>  
> Now it is on to converting numbers to text...AND, something I 
> failed to recognize, when I first planned out this project, 
> parsing out the date. I don't think it will be real 
> difficult, but I'm already behind, and I'm trying to finish 
> this thing up, so I can enjoy a vacation w/out thinking about 
> this place. Basically, the date December 1, 2009, will have 
> to read "...on this 1 day of December, 2009" I may go fancy 
> and add the "st" "nd" "rd", etc. as well. But, that isn't a 
> necessity to them...I'm more particular than they are I think.
> 
> >>> "John Clark" <John.Clark at niagaracounty.com> 12/22/2009 
> 10:46 AM >>>
> Yes, it is Reuben. Actually, what I am doing, is running a 
> query based on a form, which queries the main table, based on 
> the current voucher number...the one distinguishing field. 
> This will allow me to have one single record, and all of its 
> fields, for the report. It was really the only way I could 
> think to do it...to print a voucher for the active record..
> 
> I did the 1st paragraph this morning, and I got it all 
> working...except for the number to text conversion that I put 
> off until later. Now, it seems that nothing wants to work. I 
> didn't do anything, but move on to paragraph #2
> 
> >>> "Reuben Cummings" <accessd at gfconsultants.com> 12/22/2009 
> 9:47 AM >>>
> First, the reports recordsource is this query, correct?
> I would then place all the fields on the report and hide them 
> (visible =
> false).
> And while Witness may work I always use me.Witness (easier 
> for me to follow
> where witness is coming from).
> 
> Reuben Cummings
> GFC, LLC
> 812.523.1017
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> John Clark
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 8:46 AM
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Try this one again
> > 
> > 
> > OK, I am taking your advice, and I've started doing this. I'm 
> > finding that isn't all that bad, and I think it will look 
> > alright. The trouble I am now having though, is that I am 
> > unable to bring the data into the paragraph. In the code, for 
> > the OnLoad event of the form, I am doing this:
> >  
> > Dim P1, P2, P3 As String
> >  
> > P1 = Witness
> > P1 = P1 + " - Being duly sworn, says that he/she attended as 
> > a witness on behalf of the People "
> > P1 = P1 + "before the above court, pursuant to a subpoena or 
> > at the request of the District "
> > P1 = P1 + "Attorney and that he traveled from the 
> > City/Town/Village of "
> > P1 = P1 + txtWitCity
> > P1 = P1 + ", in the State of New York, which said place is "
> > P1 = P1 + numMileage
> > P1 = P1 + " miles from the Court House in the City of Lockport."
> >  
> > Me.lblParaOne.Caption = P1
> >  
> >  
> > I've tried other things, but what is the code for getting a 
> > field (Witness, txtWitCity, numMileage) out of the query? I 
> > don't need to do this the "long" way do I?
> > 
> > >>> "Reuben Cummings" <accessd at gfconsultants.com> 12/21/2009 
> > 11:44 AM >>>
> > I would stick with Access reports.  I make all kinds of reports for
> > government work all using Access.  And if the formatting is 
> > tough to copy
> > you'd be surprised what you can convince people to change to.
> > I've nearly changed the culture of "claims" in the state of 
> > Indiana.  The
> > old form was ridiculous - and I couldn't match it.  So I 
> convinced one
> > county to change years ago and now it's on the verge of being 
> > the standard.
> > 
> > And if you are placing parts of your data into pre-worded 
> > paragraphs (the
> > paragraph wording is pre-defined other than your data) do all 
> > the paragraph
> > building in code.   
> > 
> > Reuben Cummings
> > GFC, LLC
> > 812.523.1017
> > -- 
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com 
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd 
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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From rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com  Tue Dec 22 13:02:19 2009
From: rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com (Rusty Hammond)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:02:19 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Multimonitor toolbar
In-Reply-To: <4B30F94B.9090709@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E34353800@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
	<4B30F94B.9090709@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB7217006D7932D@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET>

Nice find.

Thanks. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:52 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Multimonitor toolbar

Look closely at the top (title) bar of any program and you will now see
a little arrow at the right hand side.  That arrow will move the program
back and forth between the monitors.

I am loving this thing.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Charlotte Foust wrote:
> That is COOL, indeed!  I sent the link to everybody in my office,
since we all use multiple monitors.  Thanks John.
> 
> Charlotte
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 8:18 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving; VBA
> Subject: [AccessD] Multimonitor toolbar
> 
> I just found this, WAY COOL!  It puts a toolbar at the bottom of the 
> second monitor that displays the icons for the programs being
displayed on the second monitor.
> 
> How come no one told me about this?
> 
> http://www.mediachance.com/free/multimon.htm
> 
> 
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Dec 22 14:54:22 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:54:22 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Search All Fields
Message-ID: <A0E895612CA14F8FB25DF9998859F697@HAL9005>

Dear List:

A client wants to search for the occurrence of a string in ANY field of a
table similar to what he does in datasheet view of a table.  But he wants
all records with that string to end up in a recordset.  Is there a way to do
that in a query?

MTIA

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 

www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/> 

 

 

 


From drawbridgej at sympatico.ca  Tue Dec 22 15:10:40 2009
From: drawbridgej at sympatico.ca (Jack and Pat)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:10:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] AccessD-- Just got email from LearnDevNow - online
	training
In-Reply-To: <49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB7217006D7932D@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET>
References: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E34353800@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com><4B30F94B.9090709@colbyconsulting.com>
	<49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB7217006D7932D@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET>
Message-ID: <4B01765292374DC89A062F58F5400440@AMDXP>

Anyone ever used this particular training provider???? It's a one year
subscription to a number of video courses.

Here is part of the email I received

.......
Need to learn .NET technologies like SharePoint, SQL Server or Visual
Studio? Don't miss our lowest price ever on the LearnDevNow online learning
library. A one-year subscription is regularly $349 - but if you subscribe
before the end of the year, you'll pay JUST $99!

- 2,500 practical training videos
- 1,150+ hours of learning
- Future training courses included free (Coming soon: Visual Studio 2010)
- Microsoft MVP and expert instructors
- 100% money-back guarantee

NOW JUST $99 PER YEAR THRU 12/31/09
..................

Courses include  C#,ASP.Net, Sharepoint  etc....

Jack








-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 2:02 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Multimonitor toolbar

Nice find.

Thanks. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:52 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Multimonitor toolbar

Look closely at the top (title) bar of any program and you will now see
a little arrow at the right hand side.  That arrow will move the program
back and forth between the monitors.

I am loving this thing.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Charlotte Foust wrote:
> That is COOL, indeed!  I sent the link to everybody in my office,
since we all use multiple monitors.  Thanks John.
> 
> Charlotte
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 8:18 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving; VBA
> Subject: [AccessD] Multimonitor toolbar
> 
> I just found this, WAY COOL!  It puts a toolbar at the bottom of the 
> second monitor that displays the icons for the programs being
displayed on the second monitor.
> 
> How come no one told me about this?
> 
> http://www.mediachance.com/free/multimon.htm
> 
> 
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Dec 22 15:14:56 2009
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:14:56 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Search All Fields
In-Reply-To: <A0E895612CA14F8FB25DF9998859F697@HAL9005>
References: <A0E895612CA14F8FB25DF9998859F697@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0912221314q28325204y4360a03d44d12eb5@mail.gmail.com>

This can be done from the "macro builder". Crreate the macro then convert it
to prodedureal code (it available in one step from th ribbon) -- I am growng
tired of exxtolling the virt*ues os like you yongstaas. You  don[t have a
clue what rock, or rock and roll,  iwl=]ell.

*
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>wrote:

> Dear List:
>
> A client wants to search for the occurrence of a string in ANY field of a
> table similar to what he does in datasheet view of a table.  But he wants
> all records with that string to end up in a recordset.  Is there a way to
> do
> that in a query?
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
>
> Beach Access Software
>
> 858-259-4334
>
> www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/>
>
> www.bchacc.com <http://www.bchacc.com/>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Dec 22 15:22:36 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 07:22:36 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Search All Fields
In-Reply-To: <29f585dd0912221314q28325204y4360a03d44d12eb5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <A0E895612CA14F8FB25DF9998859F697@HAL9005>,
	<29f585dd0912221314q28325204y4360a03d44d12eb5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B31389C.32662.27EE8872@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

I'll have some of what he's ingesting.

:-)

-- 
Stuart

On 22 Dec 2009 at 16:14, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> This can be done from the "macro builder". Crreate the macro then convert it
> to prodedureal code (it available in one step from th ribbon) -- I am growng
> tired of exxtolling the virt*ues os like you yongstaas. You  don[t have a
> clue what rock, or rock and roll,  iwl=]ell.
> 
> *



From drawbridgej at sympatico.ca  Tue Dec 22 15:29:37 2009
From: drawbridgej at sympatico.ca (Jack and Pat)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:29:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Search All Fields
In-Reply-To: <4B31389C.32662.27EE8872@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <A0E895612CA14F8FB25DF9998859F697@HAL9005>,
	<29f585dd0912221314q28325204y4360a03d44d12eb5@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B31389C.32662.27EE8872@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <6AAE6DF184D4499CA058A55F3AB7A9EF@AMDXP>

I second that Stuart!  Guess Arthur is starting the Xmas celebration earlier
than some of us.

Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 4:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Search All Fields

I'll have some of what he's ingesting.

:-)

-- 
Stuart

On 22 Dec 2009 at 16:14, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> This can be done from the "macro builder". Crreate the macro then convert
it
> to prodedureal code (it available in one step from th ribbon) -- I am
growng
> tired of exxtolling the virt*ues os like you yongstaas. You  don[t have a
> clue what rock, or rock and roll,  iwl=]ell.
> 
> *

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From jwelz at hotmail.com  Tue Dec 22 15:46:23 2009
From: jwelz at hotmail.com (Jurgen Welz)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:46:23 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Get file name after drag and drop_SecondSend
In-Reply-To: <B888A7D5E7A54CDB8791DE8942CAB70B@Mattys>
References: <043c01ca7a02$c60ffbe0$301b910a@denzilnote><013501ca82b0$8e67e930$301b910a@denzilnote><4B30CE8A.50305@colbyconsulting.com>,
	<01a801ca8315$2c7cf8e0$301b910a@denzilnote>,
	<B888A7D5E7A54CDB8791DE8942CAB70B@Mattys>
Message-ID: <BLU144-W5A851529416403C959D59A1810@phx.gbl>


Great Code.  Works well in Access 2003.  Properties on the VBA Editor Help -> About screen in this version of Access shows VB 6.3.  I added the form code to a sub form Filelist common to several forms in an application.  It stores the full file path and name in the strFilename variable of the Public Dropped procedure as written.

 

This procedure will allow me to directly copy files to one or more of the folders displayed in my file list subform using file procedures in VBA.  Very Nice!

Ciao 

J?rgen Welz 

Edmonton, Alberta 

jwelz at hotmail.com


 
> From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:55:10 -0500
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K:Get file name after drag and drop_SecondSend
> 
> Darren,
> 
> You might try here:
> http://digitalpbk.blogspot.com/2006/12/drag-n-drop-files-from-explorer-to-vb.html
> I looked through a few pages, this one looks pretty good.
> -
> Michael R Mattys
> MapPoint and Database Dev
> www.mattysconsulting.com 		 	   		  
_________________________________________________________________
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Dec 22 15:52:07 2009
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:52:07 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Search All Fields
Message-ID: <sb314dad.070@cactus.dk>

Hi Jack and Stuart

Arthur has got a new cell phone with some e-mail (in)capabilities that poor Arthur's thumbs just don't fit.

/gustav

>>> drawbridgej at sympatico.ca 22-12-2009 22:29 >>>
I second that Stuart!  Guess Arthur is starting the Xmas celebration earlier
than some of us.

Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 4:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Search All Fields

I'll have some of what he's ingesting.

:-)

-- 
Stuart

On 22 Dec 2009 at 16:14, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> This can be done from the "macro builder". Crreate the macro then convert
it
> to prodedureal code (it available in one step from th ribbon) -- I am
growng
> tired of exxtolling the virt*ues os like you yongstaas. You  don[t have a
> clue what rock, or rock and roll,  iwl=]ell.
> 
> *




From davidmcafee at gmail.com  Tue Dec 22 16:27:34 2009
From: davidmcafee at gmail.com (David McAfee)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:27:34 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Search All Fields
In-Reply-To: <sb314dad.070@cactus.dk>
References: <sb314dad.070@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <8786a4c00912221427v629d335ep97a8ffb494a571e2@mail.gmail.com>

I was going to say that, or the drinking...or both :)


On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Jack and Stuart
>
> Arthur has got a new cell phone with some e-mail (in)capabilities that poor Arthur's thumbs just don't fit.
>
> /gustav
>
>>>> drawbridgej at sympatico.ca 22-12-2009 22:29 >>>
> I second that Stuart! ?Guess Arthur is starting the Xmas celebration earlier
> than some of us.
>
> Jack
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 4:23 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Search All Fields
>
> I'll have some of what he's ingesting.
>
> :-)
>
> --
> Stuart
>
> On 22 Dec 2009 at 16:14, Arthur Fuller wrote:
>
>> This can be done from the "macro builder". Crreate the macro then convert
> it
>> to prodedureal code (it available in one step from th ribbon) -- I am
> growng
>> tired of exxtolling the virt*ues os like you yongstaas. You ?don[t have a
>> clue what rock, or rock and roll, ?iwl=]ell.
>>
>> *
>
>
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Dec 22 16:39:48 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:39:48 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Search All Fields
In-Reply-To: <sb314dad.070@cactus.dk>
References: <sb314dad.070@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <2CD394618EAB4126A64045A8FC99930A@HAL9005>

Living where he lives I'm surprised he does any work at all.  Or wants to.
Now, about my question...

R 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 1:52 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Search All Fields

Hi Jack and Stuart

Arthur has got a new cell phone with some e-mail (in)capabilities that poor
Arthur's thumbs just don't fit.

/gustav

>>> drawbridgej at sympatico.ca 22-12-2009 22:29 >>>
I second that Stuart!  Guess Arthur is starting the Xmas celebration earlier
than some of us.

Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 4:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Search All Fields

I'll have some of what he's ingesting.

:-)

--
Stuart

On 22 Dec 2009 at 16:14, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> This can be done from the "macro builder". Crreate the macro then 
> convert
it
> to prodedureal code (it available in one step from th ribbon) -- I am
growng
> tired of exxtolling the virt*ues os like you yongstaas. You  don[t 
> have a clue what rock, or rock and roll,  iwl=]ell.
> 
> *


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From Darryl.Collins at anz.com  Tue Dec 22 17:15:32 2009
From: Darryl.Collins at anz.com (Collins, Darryl)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 10:15:32 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Access security
In-Reply-To: <D16E6F5013994E0491B4648F5B1CD29A@XPS>
Message-ID: <6DC4725FDCDD72428D6114F1B6CC6E8101688D0F@EXUAU020HWT110.oceania.corp.anz.com>

Heh... This was my first and only thought on the subject too :)


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Wednesday, 23 December 2009 3:21 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access security

<< Now he wants to know what is.>>

 Move the data to SQL server and forget about JET.

Jim.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 9:19 AM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Access security

A reader has asked about Access workgroups security and I told him the
truth -- won't keep out the determined, but a good security setup
nonetheless. Now he wants to know what is. I should've heard that
coming...

I'd like to hear thoughts on Access security and alternatives --
strictly opinion and war stories, you don't have to tell me how to use
it! ;)

Susan H. 

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From adtp at airtelmail.in  Wed Dec 23 03:22:05 2009
From: adtp at airtelmail.in (A.D. Tejpal)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:52:05 +0530
Subject: [AccessD] Search All Fields
References: <A0E895612CA14F8FB25DF9998859F697@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <015b01ca83b1$9497b220$3701a8c0@adtpc>

Rocky,

    Sample procedure named P_BuildQueryBySearchOnAllFields() as given below, will build a query outputting the records containing search sub-string in any of the fields. Sample call would be as follows:

    P_BuildQueryBySearchOnAllFields "<<MyTable>>", _
                    "<<MySearchString>>", "<<MyDestnQuery>>"

    This query can then be used to set up a recordset as needed. However, if you are keen to set up the recordset directly, without simultaneously building a query, it can be done by using  sample function named Fn_GetRecordsetBySearchOnAllFields() as given below. Sample call would be as follows (rst being an object variable of DAO.Recordset type):

    Set rst = Fn_GetRecordsetBySearchOnAllFields( _
                    "<<MyTable>>", "<<MySearchString>>")

    An alternative style for handling the recordset generated by the sample function could be as follows:

' Code in VBA module
'=====================================
Sub TestFunction()
    With Fn_GetRecordsetBySearchOnAllFields( _
                "<<MyTable>>", "<<MySearchString>>")
        Debug.Print "Recordset Details:"
        Debug.Print "Tot Fields = " & .Fields.Count
        Debug.Print "First field values in output:"

        .MoveFirst
        Do Until .EOF
            Debug.Print .Fields(0)
            
            .MoveNext
        Loop
        
        Debug.Print "Tot records = " & .RecordCount
    End With
End Sub
'===================================

    If at any stage, you happen to need more complex search on all fields, my sample db named Form_SearchAllFields could be of interest to you. It is in Access 2000 file format and is available at Rogers Access Library. Link - 
http://www.rogersaccesslibrary.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=45

    The sample db provides advanced search features across whole data source (all fields - all records). For example, for a group of space separated words typed by the user, search for matching field values could be conducted in any of the following styles:

    (a) Match field values having any of search words.
    (b) Match field values having all of search words, but not necessarily in the same order as entered in search box.
    (c) Match field values having all of search words, in the same order as entered in search box.
    (d) Exact match of  full field values against full contents of search box.

Best wishes,
A.D. Tejpal
------------

' Code in VBA module
'==============================
Sub P_BuildQueryBySearchOnAllFields( _
                            TableName As String, _
                            SearchString As String, _
                            DestnQryName As String)
    Dim fd As DAO.Field
    Dim Qst As String, Crit As String
    
    Qst = "SELECT * FROM " & TableName
    Crit = ""
    
    With DBEngine(0)(0)
        ' Build criteria
        For Each fd In .TableDefs(TableName).Fields
            Crit = Crit & IIf(Len(Crit) > 0, " OR ", "")
            Crit = Crit & fd.Name & " Like '*" & _
                        SearchString & "*'"
        Next
        
        ' Delete destn query if already existing by that name
        On Error Resume Next
            DoCmd.DeleteObject acQuery, DestnQryName
        On Error GoTo 0
        
        ' Create destn query
        Qst = Qst & IIf(Len(Crit) > 0, _
                " WHERE " & Crit, "") & ";"
        .CreateQueryDef DestnQryName, Qst
        .QueryDefs.Refresh
    End With

    Set fd = Nothing
End Sub
'---------------------------------------------------

Function Fn_GetRecordsetBySearchOnAllFields( _
        TableName As String, _
        SearchString As String) As DAO.Recordset
    Dim fd As DAO.Field
    Dim Qst As String, Crit As String
    
    Qst = "SELECT * FROM " & TableName
    Crit = ""
    
    With DBEngine(0)(0)
        ' Build criteria
        For Each fd In .TableDefs(TableName).Fields
            Crit = Crit & IIf(Len(Crit) > 0, " OR ", "")
            Crit = Crit & fd.Name & " Like '*" & _
                        SearchString & "*'"
        Next
        
        ' Build SQL
        Qst = Qst & IIf(Len(Crit) > 0, _
                " WHERE " & Crit, "") & ";"
        
        ' Set up recordset as per freshly built SQL
        Set Fn_GetRecordsetBySearchOnAllFields = _
                    .OpenRecordset(Qst, dbOpenDynaset)
    End With
    
    Set fd = Nothing
End Function
'===================================

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rocky Smolin 
  To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 02:24
  Subject: [AccessD] Search All Fields


  Dear List:

  A client wants to search for the occurrence of a string in ANY field of a
  table similar to what he does in datasheet view of a table.  But he wants
  all records with that string to end up in a recordset.  Is there a way to do
  that in a query?

  MTIA

  Rocky Smolin

From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Dec 23 05:21:32 2009
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:21:32 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas
Message-ID: <sb320b64.078@cactus.dk>

Hi all

At this time where you can count the hours till you _have_ to leave your keyboard I wish all my fellow listers a Merry Christmas.

As a small Christmas present - free to use and distribute - I bring you this link to an extraordinary docu video of a size that will make your download wire glow.
It shows the full travel from Bergen to Oslo, the second largest city and the capital of Norway, by rail via "Bergensbanen", a route which had its 100 years anniversary Nov. 27th this year.

With its length of 526,64 km typically more than 1000 m above the sea through the mountains via 182 tunnels, it is rated as one of the ten most spectacular railroads in the World by Chicago Tribune in 2005 and lasts for more than 7 hours. The scenes from Hoth in Star Wars Episode V, The Empire Strikes Back, were filmed at Finse, a small town along the route. 

The tour was recorded in HD TV and broadcast with some interviews in between by the Norwegian public service TV, NRK, and attracted 1.2 mio. viewers.
The download, however, is the clean view as seen from the engine. At a whopping size of 165 GB it is too much for most people, so a scaled-down version at 1280 x 720 is offered at "only" 22 GB:

  http://nrkbeta.no/2009/12/18/bergensbanen-eng/

So if you miss a present for the railroad-nerd of your family, get a USB disk and start downloading now!

Of course, nothing is like the real travel. I took the ride with my wife Rita some years ago - we both love railroads - and can highly recommend it.

/gustav




From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Wed Dec 23 05:32:08 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:32:08 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas
In-Reply-To: <sb320b64.078@cactus.dk>
References: <sb320b64.078@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <4b31ffbe.1701d00a.6fdf.ffffd5a4@mx.google.com>

Thank you Gustav and the very best to you and yours as well.

I will have a look at the video but at the moment I have just connected my
PC to TV Turner via my Xbox360 Elite and Xbox-live with great "stuff"
including all the 60's music which I am playing now with my  TV being output
to my PC. HDMI connectors to the console and PC from the 50" plasma -  TV
operating via  Windows Media Centre.

Oooohh, I am pure excited....just waiting for the wee fat man in the red
suit to call..


Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: 23 December 2009 11:22
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas

Hi all

At this time where you can count the hours till you _have_ to leave your
keyboard I wish all my fellow listers a Merry Christmas.

As a small Christmas present - free to use and distribute - I bring you this
link to an extraordinary docu video of a size that will make your download
wire glow.
It shows the full travel from Bergen to Oslo, the second largest city and
the capital of Norway, by rail via "Bergensbanen", a route which had its 100
years anniversary Nov. 27th this year.

With its length of 526,64 km typically more than 1000 m above the sea
through the mountains via 182 tunnels, it is rated as one of the ten most
spectacular railroads in the World by Chicago Tribune in 2005 and lasts for
more than 7 hours. The scenes from Hoth in Star Wars Episode V, The Empire
Strikes Back, were filmed at Finse, a small town along the route. 

The tour was recorded in HD TV and broadcast with some interviews in between
by the Norwegian public service TV, NRK, and attracted 1.2 mio. viewers.
The download, however, is the clean view as seen from the engine. At a
whopping size of 165 GB it is too much for most people, so a scaled-down
version at 1280 x 720 is offered at "only" 22 GB:

  http://nrkbeta.no/2009/12/18/bergensbanen-eng/

So if you miss a present for the railroad-nerd of your family, get a USB
disk and start downloading now!

Of course, nothing is like the real travel. I took the ride with my wife
Rita some years ago - we both love railroads - and can highly recommend it.

/gustav


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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Wed Dec 23 06:35:46 2009
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 07:35:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Try this one again
In-Reply-To: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E343537EC@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
References: <4B308746.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
	<D92C9D4AFFC04F6988BCE8F6C8D6724B@reubennx9500>
	<4B30A392.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
	<AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E343537EC@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
Message-ID: <4B31C852.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>

I don't think I'm understanding you Charolotte...I thought that is what I was doing. Unless what you are saying, is that, instead of using a query as the source of the data, that I just put this code, behind the report itself. I guess I could have gone this way. And, I used to do this more, when I was programming more. But, this time I wanted a "backup" plan, in case it was late, or if the report didn't work correctly...they can still use the query if they had to.

>>> Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> 12/22/2009 11:15 AM >>>
An easier way would be to pass the required parameters for the report to the voucher report and let it populate itself either creating its SQL in code or passing the parameters to a query.  Trying to make everything "see" everything else is a good way to bring on a migraine.

Charlotte Foust


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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Wed Dec 23 06:44:16 2009
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 07:44:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Try this one again
In-Reply-To: <D8D41AB1E99A4E629CE1148B8DE80BB6@reubennx9500>
References: <4B30AA25.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
	<D8D41AB1E99A4E629CE1148B8DE80BB6@reubennx9500>
Message-ID: <4B31CA50.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>

No...looking back on what I wrote, I can see this does sound like what I was looking for, but no...I am just trying to convert it to text, so that I can use it in the form. I didn't think this would be a problem, but I am getting errors on the 4-5 numeric fields I need...if I REM them out, all works well. However, I will keep this in mind, and maybe I'll mention that we have the ability to do this...they might actually like that.
 
As for the parsing issue, I took a stab at it, and I couldn't believe how easy it turned out. Once I started writing down the logic on paper, it became quite clear, and I whipped up a quick CASE statement...four cases...and it works great.
 
day = Left(Right(datDate, 7), 2)
Select Case day
    Case 1, 21, 31
        daysuffix = "st"
    Case 2, 22
        daysuffix = "nd"
    Case 3, 23
        daysuffix = "rd"
    Case Else
        daysuffix = "th"
End Select
 
I could actually simplify this even more, and make it work for all numbers...right now it just covers up to 31 days in a month...by changing the first statement to look at just the last digits, instead of the last two digits. Then I ony have to check for 1, 2, or 3. I think that would work.

>>> "Reuben Cummings" <accessd at gfconsultants.com> 12/22/2009 1:05 PM >>>
John, there is code out there for converting dollars to text.  I assume you
want 20.50 to read "Twenty dollars and 50 cents"
Google "q210586" for the knowledge base article on it.  Copy and paste the
code.

To parse the date as you mentioned look into Datepart.

Reuben Cummings
GFC, LLC
812.523.1017


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 11:15 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Try this one again
> 
> 
> Well, Reuben (and others), I don't understand why it made a 
> difference, but this appears to have been the problem...I 
> added all fields, that I am using, to the report, at the 
> bottom (I'll hide them later), and it is complying much better for me.
>  
> Isn't there a way to grow/shrink the labels? I've never done 
> it, but I thought there was a way to do this. My paragraph 
> spacing, I'm afraid, will be subject to various spacing and 
> I'd like to make it more dynamic. Eh...I can live w/this, if 
> I get down to it being the only issue.
>  
> Now it is on to converting numbers to text...AND, something I 
> failed to recognize, when I first planned out this project, 
> parsing out the date. I don't think it will be real 
> difficult, but I'm already behind, and I'm trying to finish 
> this thing up, so I can enjoy a vacation w/out thinking about 
> this place. Basically, the date December 1, 2009, will have 
> to read "...on this 1 day of December, 2009" I may go fancy 
> and add the "st" "nd" "rd", etc. as well. But, that isn't a 
> necessity to them...I'm more particular than they are I think.
> 
> >>> "John Clark" <John.Clark at niagaracounty.com> 12/22/2009 
> 10:46 AM >>>
> Yes, it is Reuben. Actually, what I am doing, is running a 
> query based on a form, which queries the main table, based on 
> the current voucher number...the one distinguishing field. 
> This will allow me to have one single record, and all of its 
> fields, for the report. It was really the only way I could 
> think to do it...to print a voucher for the active record..
> 
> I did the 1st paragraph this morning, and I got it all 
> working...except for the number to text conversion that I put 
> off until later. Now, it seems that nothing wants to work. I 
> didn't do anything, but move on to paragraph #2
> 
> >>> "Reuben Cummings" <accessd at gfconsultants.com> 12/22/2009 
> 9:47 AM >>>
> First, the reports recordsource is this query, correct?
> I would then place all the fields on the report and hide them 
> (visible =
> false).
> And while Witness may work I always use me.Witness (easier 
> for me to follow
> where witness is coming from).
> 
> Reuben Cummings
> GFC, LLC
> 812.523.1017
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of 
> John Clark
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 8:46 AM
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Try this one again
> > 
> > 
> > OK, I am taking your advice, and I've started doing this. I'm 
> > finding that isn't all that bad, and I think it will look 
> > alright. The trouble I am now having though, is that I am 
> > unable to bring the data into the paragraph. In the code, for 
> > the OnLoad event of the form, I am doing this:
> >  
> > Dim P1, P2, P3 As String
> >  
> > P1 = Witness
> > P1 = P1 + " - Being duly sworn, says that he/she attended as 
> > a witness on behalf of the People "
> > P1 = P1 + "before the above court, pursuant to a subpoena or 
> > at the request of the District "
> > P1 = P1 + "Attorney and that he traveled from the 
> > City/Town/Village of "
> > P1 = P1 + txtWitCity
> > P1 = P1 + ", in the State of New York, which said place is "
> > P1 = P1 + numMileage
> > P1 = P1 + " miles from the Court House in the City of Lockport."
> >  
> > Me.lblParaOne.Caption = P1
> >  
> >  
> > I've tried other things, but what is the code for getting a 
> > field (Witness, txtWitCity, numMileage) out of the query? I 
> > don't need to do this the "long" way do I?
> > 
> > >>> "Reuben Cummings" <accessd at gfconsultants.com> 12/21/2009 
> > 11:44 AM >>>
> > I would stick with Access reports.  I make all kinds of reports for
> > government work all using Access.  And if the formatting is 
> > tough to copy
> > you'd be surprised what you can convince people to change to.
> > I've nearly changed the culture of "claims" in the state of 
> > Indiana.  The
> > old form was ridiculous - and I couldn't match it.  So I 
> convinced one
> > county to change years ago and now it's on the verge of being 
> > the standard.
> > 
> > And if you are placing parts of your data into pre-worded 
> > paragraphs (the
> > paragraph wording is pre-defined other than your data) do all 
> > the paragraph
> > building in code.   
> > 
> > Reuben Cummings
> > GFC, LLC
> > 812.523.1017
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From pedro at plex.nl  Wed Dec 23 07:19:10 2009
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:19:10 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] query
Message-ID: <002801ca83d2$83d49b80$0102a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Group,

i need to filter out Patients [PatID] with the diagnosis [Diag] = "*Coeliakie*" and Immunology [Immuno] = "IgA" and have undergone a new examination, within a month [Date], where the sample [Materiaal] = "Duodenum"

Normally i do these with several query's etc.

Can i do this in one?

Thanks

Pedro


From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Wed Dec 23 07:44:39 2009
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 08:44:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Try this one again
In-Reply-To: <D8D41AB1E99A4E629CE1148B8DE80BB6@reubennx9500>
References: <4B30AA25.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
	<D8D41AB1E99A4E629CE1148B8DE80BB6@reubennx9500>
Message-ID: <4B31D877.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>

I am nearly done w/this program...the only somewhat major thing I have left to do, is make my autonumbering code work for the voucher number. I have code that I used in another program, so I really just have to make adjustments to fit it to this scenario instead.
 
And, I used a simple Str() function, to bring the numbers into the report. 
 
I did forget a field on the report, but it is a somewhat simple one. Actually, it is the voucher number, which is probably why I forgot it...I was putting it off, until the automation. 
 
The problem I am now having has GOT to be easy, and I am just being brainless...or maybe, it is still early, and I my brain hasn't warmed up yet. One of the numbers I brought in is the total fee, due to the witness. In my one example, they are to receive $14.60, but it is reading instead "14.6". Is this just a simple format issue? Format is giving me problems.
 
Oh...and I still would like to make it less "Access Looking." My old programs, I put into their own windows, but I can't figure out how to do this w/Access 2007


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Dec 23 07:45:10 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 08:45:10 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas
In-Reply-To: <sb320b64.078@cactus.dk>
References: <sb320b64.078@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <4B321EE6.8050107@colbyconsulting.com>

Gustav,

I decided what the heck, I would download.  It will be well after Christmas by the time it finishes. 
  I figured that BitTorrent would saturate my download bandwidth (~500 KByte/sec) and allow me to 
get it in 10 hours or so.  That is NOT happening.  According to the download manager it will be well 
over 40 hours left to download.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> At this time where you can count the hours till you _have_ to leave your keyboard I wish all my fellow listers a Merry Christmas.
> 
> As a small Christmas present - free to use and distribute - I bring you this link to an extraordinary docu video of a size that will make your download wire glow.
> It shows the full travel from Bergen to Oslo, the second largest city and the capital of Norway, by rail via "Bergensbanen", a route which had its 100 years anniversary Nov. 27th this year.
> 
> With its length of 526,64 km typically more than 1000 m above the sea through the mountains via 182 tunnels, it is rated as one of the ten most spectacular railroads in the World by Chicago Tribune in 2005 and lasts for more than 7 hours. The scenes from Hoth in Star Wars Episode V, The Empire Strikes Back, were filmed at Finse, a small town along the route. 
> 
> The tour was recorded in HD TV and broadcast with some interviews in between by the Norwegian public service TV, NRK, and attracted 1.2 mio. viewers.
> The download, however, is the clean view as seen from the engine. At a whopping size of 165 GB it is too much for most people, so a scaled-down version at 1280 x 720 is offered at "only" 22 GB:
> 
>   http://nrkbeta.no/2009/12/18/bergensbanen-eng/
> 
> So if you miss a present for the railroad-nerd of your family, get a USB disk and start downloading now!
> 
> Of course, nothing is like the real travel. I took the ride with my wife Rita some years ago - we both love railroads - and can highly recommend it.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Dec 23 07:55:49 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 08:55:49 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas
In-Reply-To: <sb320b64.078@cactus.dk>
References: <sb320b64.078@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <4B322165.80806@colbyconsulting.com>

One disadvantage of living "the other side of the pond" is that we can't jump on the railroads and 
visit the various parts of Europe.  Someday I will be back though.

Merry Christmas to all.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Gustav Brock wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> At this time where you can count the hours till you _have_ to leave your keyboard I wish all my fellow listers a Merry Christmas.
> 
> As a small Christmas present - free to use and distribute - I bring you this link to an extraordinary docu video of a size that will make your download wire glow.
> It shows the full travel from Bergen to Oslo, the second largest city and the capital of Norway, by rail via "Bergensbanen", a route which had its 100 years anniversary Nov. 27th this year.
> 
> With its length of 526,64 km typically more than 1000 m above the sea through the mountains via 182 tunnels, it is rated as one of the ten most spectacular railroads in the World by Chicago Tribune in 2005 and lasts for more than 7 hours. The scenes from Hoth in Star Wars Episode V, The Empire Strikes Back, were filmed at Finse, a small town along the route. 
> 
> The tour was recorded in HD TV and broadcast with some interviews in between by the Norwegian public service TV, NRK, and attracted 1.2 mio. viewers.
> The download, however, is the clean view as seen from the engine. At a whopping size of 165 GB it is too much for most people, so a scaled-down version at 1280 x 720 is offered at "only" 22 GB:
> 
>   http://nrkbeta.no/2009/12/18/bergensbanen-eng/
> 
> So if you miss a present for the railroad-nerd of your family, get a USB disk and start downloading now!
> 
> Of course, nothing is like the real travel. I took the ride with my wife Rita some years ago - we both love railroads - and can highly recommend it.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 


From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Dec 23 08:06:46 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 09:06:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas
In-Reply-To: <4b31ffbe.1701d00a.6fdf.ffffd5a4@mx.google.com>
References: <sb320b64.078@cactus.dk>
	<4b31ffbe.1701d00a.6fdf.ffffd5a4@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <4B3223F6.2070904@colbyconsulting.com>

Must be nice to have an XBox!  We have kids and my wife is adamant that there will be no game console.

So what exactly are you doing?  A TV Tuner card in your PC?  Connected THROUGH the XBox?

I have built a dedicated WMC HTPC which sits under the TV.  It was running Vista on a "low power" 
AMD x2 (2 ghz) and 4 gigs ram, and running MyMovies.  I had sooooo many problems with that 
configuration, and it was decidedly not fast!  Vista would completely hang, requiring me to log off, 
go to sleep mode or occasionally even a complete reboot.  Just a ROYAL PITA!

One day Vista abruptly decided to not understand the TV video (tuner or already recorded files). 
Given the constant complaints from the family about the speed (it really was a dog!) and facing a 
reinstall anyway, I decided to do a clean install of Windows 7.  I also decided to do a hardware 
upgrade as well, dropped a quad core in and used a flash drive for the boot drive.  I also went with 
Media Browser for the archived movies player.

What a different experience.  The machine boots in seconds, Media Browser displays the movies in 
seconds, navigates between movies in seconds.  The PC no longer hangs.  Just a blazing fast machine 
now.  Windows 7 even knows about clear QAM (unencrypted) digital TV, so I went to the trouble of 
mapping the available QAM channels, which includes a ton of music channels.

The family is happy, I am happy.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Max Wanadoo wrote:
> Thank you Gustav and the very best to you and yours as well.
> 
> I will have a look at the video but at the moment I have just connected my
> PC to TV Turner via my Xbox360 Elite and Xbox-live with great "stuff"
> including all the 60's music which I am playing now with my  TV being output
> to my PC. HDMI connectors to the console and PC from the 50" plasma -  TV
> operating via  Windows Media Centre.
> 
> Oooohh, I am pure excited....just waiting for the wee fat man in the red
> suit to call..
> 
> 
> Max



From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Wed Dec 23 07:31:53 2009
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:31:53 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas
Message-ID: <200912231432.nBNEVvIK013026@databaseadvisors.com>

Merry Xmas from me too. Personally though Max I was hoping for a wee slim
girl in a red fur-lined mini-dress, but each to their own. Ho Ho Ho.

Andy



--------- Original Message --------
From: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas
Date: 23/12/09 11:35


Thank you Gustav and the very best to you and yours as well.

I will have a look at the video but at the moment I have just connected my
PC to TV Turner via my Xbox360 Elite and Xbox-live with great "stuff"
including all the 60's music which I am playing now with my TV being output
to my PC. HDMI connectors to the console and PC from the 50" plasma - TV
operating via Windows Media Centre.

Oooohh, I am pure excited....just waiting for the wee fat man in the red
suit to call..


Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: 23 December 2009 11:22
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas

Hi all

At this time where you can count the hours till you _have_ to leave your
keyboard I wish all my fellow listers a Merry Christmas.

As a small Christmas present - free to use and distribute - I bring you this
link to an extraordinary docu video of a size that will make your download
wire glow.
It shows the full travel from Bergen to Oslo, the second largest city and
the capital of Norway, by rail via "Bergensbanen", a route which had its 100
years anniversary Nov. 27th this year.

With its length of 526,64 km typically more than 1000 m above the sea
through the mountains via 182 tunnels, it is rated as one of the ten most
spectacular railroads in the World by Chicago Tribune in 2005 and lasts for
more than 7 hours. The scenes from Hoth in Star Wars Episode V, The Empire
Strikes Back, were filmed at Finse, a small town along the route.

The tour was recorded in HD TV and broadcast with some interviews in between
by the Norwegian public service TV, NRK, and attracted 1.2 mio. viewers.
The download, however, is the clean view as seen from the engine. At a
whopping size of 165 GB it is too much for most people, so a scaled-down
version at 1280 x 720 is offered at "only" 22 GB:

http://nrkbeta.no/2009/12/18/bergensbanen-eng/

So if you miss a present for the railroad-nerd of your family, get a USB
disk and start downloading now!

Of course, nothing is like the real travel. I took the ride with my wife
Rita some years ago - we both love railroads - and can highly recommend it.

/gustav


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From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Wed Dec 23 08:37:15 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:37:15 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas
In-Reply-To: <4B3223F6.2070904@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <sb320b64.078@cactus.dk>	<4b31ffbe.1701d00a.6fdf.ffffd5a4@mx.google.com>
	<4B3223F6.2070904@colbyconsulting.com>
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Hi John,
Not too sure what I am  doing.  Sortta plug things in and they offer me
options and then I click through them and then it just work....nice !

I have my 50" plasma Samsung.  Into that I have an Aerial onto my roof
aerial and my Satellite connector to my satellite dish both delivering TV
channels. I also have a DVD  player (which is probably redundant as I can
play these through my Xbox360 now).

I have a PC connected through Broadband for my Internet.  The PC also
connects to my 50" Samsung via an HDMI cable about 10 feet long (Ribbon) so
I can use the TV as a second monitor.  The PC also connects to my TV aerial
to pick up television programs and this operates via Windows Media Centre (I
never installed it, it was just there and sprung to live when I connected
stuff).

I then connected the Xbox360 via HDMI to the 2nd port on the 50" Samsung (it
has 3 HDMI connectors, so I still have a spare).  I signed up for Xbox Live
which gives me tons of free (but I paid ?36 year subs) stuff, including my
music - no adverts, talk-overs, etc,  just pure music of my choice.  Of
course I also have my games on it.  So far I have installed Avatar game (I
am going to see the 3D movie at the local cinema over Xmas), also Fonza
Formula 1 racing cars - that is so hard.  I have 4/5 more games which I
haven?t installed yet (Soccer, Batman, Indiana Jones, etc - Educational
stuff - Not!).  

On top of that there is tons of downloadable games and stuff.  I haven?t
even scratched the surface yet...  The F1 motor racing made me laugh when I
asked if I wanted to go LIVE and race against other people on the web - ha!
I cannot even get round the circuit yet without at  least 10 crashed....I
SAID NOOO....  I have two remotes so I can play against the wife (note to
self...remember to lose occasionally.)

All great stuff.  Remember though, this is for Grown Ups.  Your wife if
right - keep the kids away.  This is serious stuff.  My wife will be
watching one of the TV Soaps later (which I abhor) - I can now watch another
TV channel on my large TV monitor - both have wireless earphones.

I have the Win 7 but haven?t yet installed it - keep procrastinating 'cos
Vista is so good (at the moment).

Have a great Xmas..

Max



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: 23 December 2009 14:07
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas

Must be nice to have an XBox!  We have kids and my wife is adamant that
there will be no game console.

So what exactly are you doing?  A TV Tuner card in your PC?  Connected
THROUGH the XBox?

I have built a dedicated WMC HTPC which sits under the TV.  It was running
Vista on a "low power" 
AMD x2 (2 ghz) and 4 gigs ram, and running MyMovies.  I had sooooo many
problems with that 
configuration, and it was decidedly not fast!  Vista would completely hang,
requiring me to log off, 
go to sleep mode or occasionally even a complete reboot.  Just a ROYAL PITA!

One day Vista abruptly decided to not understand the TV video (tuner or
already recorded files). 
Given the constant complaints from the family about the speed (it really was
a dog!) and facing a 
reinstall anyway, I decided to do a clean install of Windows 7.  I also
decided to do a hardware 
upgrade as well, dropped a quad core in and used a flash drive for the boot
drive.  I also went with 
Media Browser for the archived movies player.

What a different experience.  The machine boots in seconds, Media Browser
displays the movies in 
seconds, navigates between movies in seconds.  The PC no longer hangs.  Just
a blazing fast machine 
now.  Windows 7 even knows about clear QAM (unencrypted) digital TV, so I
went to the trouble of 
mapping the available QAM channels, which includes a ton of music channels.

The family is happy, I am happy.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Max Wanadoo wrote:
> Thank you Gustav and the very best to you and yours as well.
> 
> I will have a look at the video but at the moment I have just connected my
> PC to TV Turner via my Xbox360 Elite and Xbox-live with great "stuff"
> including all the 60's music which I am playing now with my  TV being
output
> to my PC. HDMI connectors to the console and PC from the 50" plasma -  TV
> operating via  Windows Media Centre.
> 
> Oooohh, I am pure excited....just waiting for the wee fat man in the red
> suit to call..
> 
> 
> Max

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From max.wanadoo at gmail.com  Wed Dec 23 08:38:58 2009
From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com (Max Wanadoo)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:38:58 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas
In-Reply-To: <200912231432.nBNEVvIK013026@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <200912231432.nBNEVvIK013026@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <4b322b8f.0702d00a.33b2.ffffa01d@mx.google.com>

Yeah, but the wee fat man is LEAVING stuff. Your wee slim girl will be
TAKING IT..(we will  stop there haha!)


Ho Ho Hum!

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: 23 December 2009 13:32
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas

Merry Xmas from me too. Personally though Max I was hoping for a wee slim
girl in a red fur-lined mini-dress, but each to their own. Ho Ho Ho.

Andy



--------- Original Message --------
From: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas
Date: 23/12/09 11:35


Thank you Gustav and the very best to you and yours as well.

I will have a look at the video but at the moment I have just connected my
PC to TV Turner via my Xbox360 Elite and Xbox-live with great "stuff"
including all the 60's music which I am playing now with my TV being output
to my PC. HDMI connectors to the console and PC from the 50" plasma - TV
operating via Windows Media Centre.

Oooohh, I am pure excited....just waiting for the wee fat man in the red
suit to call..


Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: 23 December 2009 11:22
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas

Hi all

At this time where you can count the hours till you _have_ to leave your
keyboard I wish all my fellow listers a Merry Christmas.

As a small Christmas present - free to use and distribute - I bring you this
link to an extraordinary docu video of a size that will make your download
wire glow.
It shows the full travel from Bergen to Oslo, the second largest city and
the capital of Norway, by rail via "Bergensbanen", a route which had its 100
years anniversary Nov. 27th this year.

With its length of 526,64 km typically more than 1000 m above the sea
through the mountains via 182 tunnels, it is rated as one of the ten most
spectacular railroads in the World by Chicago Tribune in 2005 and lasts for
more than 7 hours. The scenes from Hoth in Star Wars Episode V, The Empire
Strikes Back, were filmed at Finse, a small town along the route.

The tour was recorded in HD TV and broadcast with some interviews in between
by the Norwegian public service TV, NRK, and attracted 1.2 mio. viewers.
The download, however, is the clean view as seen from the engine. At a
whopping size of 165 GB it is too much for most people, so a scaled-down
version at 1280 x 720 is offered at "only" 22 GB:

http://nrkbeta.no/2009/12/18/bergensbanen-eng/

So if you miss a present for the railroad-nerd of your family, get a USB
disk and start downloading now!

Of course, nothing is like the real travel. I took the ride with my wife
Rita some years ago - we both love railroads - and can highly recommend it.

/gustav


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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Wed Dec 23 08:47:00 2009
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 09:47:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] query
In-Reply-To: <002801ca83d2$83d49b80$0102a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
References: <002801ca83d2$83d49b80$0102a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
Message-ID: <29f585dd0912230647m775401cbr426236d671a38d64@mail.gmail.com>

Of course you can!

SELECT PatID FROM myTable
WHERE Diag = "Coeliakie" AND Immuno = "IgA" AND Date > Date() - 30 AND
Mateerial = "Duodenum".

If you're using SQL Server, substitute the double quotes with single quotes.

hth,
Arthur

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl> wrote:

> Hello Group,
>
> i need to filter out Patients [PatID] with the diagnosis [Diag] =
> "*Coeliakie*" and Immunology [Immuno] = "IgA" and have undergone a new
> examination, within a month [Date], where the sample [Materiaal] =
> "Duodenum"
>
> Normally i do these with several query's etc.
>
> Can i do this in one?
>
> Thanks
>
> Pedro
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From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Wed Dec 23 09:17:08 2009
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 10:17:08 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Hating MS right about now  [Was] Try this one again
In-Reply-To: <4B31D877.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
References: <4B30AA25.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
	<D8D41AB1E99A4E629CE1148B8DE80BB6@reubennx9500>
	<4B31D877.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
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Like I said, this project I am doing, is really the first one for me, for Access 2007...I did something really tiny, earlier this year, but that didn't have much code at all. So, even though I am not completely finished, I had a date w/the user...the District Attorney's office...to show them the program, as it is now. 
 
I was very embarrassed, when things weren't working. I had no clue why, but after you put in the date, the first thing that should happen is the mileage rate is filled in, and that did not happen. That has worked for about a week now, so why it wasn't working all of the sudden, was a complete puzzle to me. I moved on, assuring them I'd fix this pronto.
 
Then I get to the actual voucher (report), which again was failing on every calculated field. I had just run through this, before going over there, and I was confident it would work fine. Anything I have left to do, wouldn't be a big problem...the auto numbering needs to be done, but the number is there and I just say, "I'm working on this today"...and the dollar amt on the report is not in currency form..."I'll fix that!" But, the meat of the program was looking great...until I showed it to them.
 
This time at least, I got a clue...the bar across the top saying something about disabled content. So, I quickly realize, "Microsoft is trying to protect me from myself again!" I find a place where I can trust my network drive...of course this is "not recommended"...and I add the network drive, and voila! it all started working. I still had one little glitch I don't understand...because it works on my PC...but at least I showed them what was going on and didn't end up looking like a totally incompetent idiot.


From ssharkins at gmail.com  Wed Dec 23 09:34:22 2009
From: ssharkins at gmail.com (Susan Harkins)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 10:34:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] The latest on this.. Re:  Access security
References: <8E445F7E46C243D08215AD60C877700A@SusanOne><D16E6F5013994E0491B4648F5B1CD29A@XPS>
	<49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB7217006D79325@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET>
Message-ID: <1AEFC2FB03504F23A3461A58181D3503@SusanOne>

The reader responds:

"...if I use the encryption option in the tool menu of access is it useful?
I would like to tell you that I am using the mdb file just as the back end 
of the application,my application written by C# or VB,so I want to 
understand .. should I encrypt the front end and the back end? and how can I 
do that?"

=======Okay,  it's obvious to me at this point that maybe this guy shouldn't 
be fooling around with security features for real.  Anyone know of a good 
site that covers security features for Access as a back end? I can't help 
this guy with a few simple emails.

Susan  H.




Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access security


>I second the move to SQL server.  Even using the free SQL Server Express
> you can implement security to the data based on individual users or
> setup roles for groups of people.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:21 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access security
>
> << Now he wants to know what is.>>
>
> Move the data to SQL server and forget about JET.
>
> Jim.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 9:19 AM
> To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] Access security
>
> A reader has asked about Access workgroups security and I told him the
> truth -- won't keep out the determined, but a good security setup
> nonetheless. Now he wants to know what is. I should've heard that
> coming...
>
> I'd like to hear thoughts on Access security and alternatives --
> strictly opinion and war stories, you don't have to tell me how to use
> it! ;)
>
> Susan H.
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From dbdoug at gmail.com  Wed Dec 23 09:59:39 2009
From: dbdoug at gmail.com (Doug Steele)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 07:59:39 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas
In-Reply-To: <sb320b64.078@cactus.dk>
References: <sb320b64.078@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <4dd71a0c0912230759v6ed9a559sf35cd0df442ed548@mail.gmail.com>

At this time last year I was in Europe visiting my son.  Before I left, I
bought a EurRail pass.  The cheapest option was First Class for the two of
us.  I've been to Europe before, but never travelled First Class rail.  What
an eye opener!  Just about the best travelling I've ever done - comfortable,
lots of room, food, drink, newspapers, extra friendly staff.  A huge
contrast from flying, and nearly as fast.  On one memorable trip on a Thales
(French) train, they even had free wi-fi.  I was able to log in to Google
Earth on my iPhone and watch the countryside ripping past us on my screen at
about 200kph, while simultaneously watching it through the window.  A geek's
delight.

Doug

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 3:21 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> At this time where you can count the hours till you _have_ to leave your
> keyboard I wish all my fellow listers a Merry Christmas.
>
> As a small Christmas present - free to use and distribute - I bring you
> this link to an extraordinary docu video of a size that will make your
> download wire glow.
> It shows the full travel from Bergen to Oslo, the second largest city and
> the capital of Norway, by rail via "Bergensbanen", a route which had its 100
> years anniversary Nov. 27th this year.
>
> With its length of 526,64 km typically more than 1000 m above the sea
> through the mountains via 182 tunnels, it is rated as one of the ten most
> spectacular railroads in the World by Chicago Tribune in 2005 and lasts for
> more than 7 hours. The scenes from Hoth in Star Wars Episode V, The Empire
> Strikes Back, were filmed at Finse, a small town along the route.
>
> The tour was recorded in HD TV and broadcast with some interviews in
> between by the Norwegian public service TV, NRK, and attracted 1.2 mio.
> viewers.
> The download, however, is the clean view as seen from the engine. At a
> whopping size of 165 GB it is too much for most people, so a scaled-down
> version at 1280 x 720 is offered at "only" 22 GB:
>
>  http://nrkbeta.no/2009/12/18/bergensbanen-eng/
>
> So if you miss a present for the railroad-nerd of your family, get a USB
> disk and start downloading now!
>
> Of course, nothing is like the real travel. I took the ride with my wife
> Rita some years ago - we both love railroads - and can highly recommend it.
>
> /gustav
>
>
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From pedro at plex.nl  Wed Dec 23 10:35:39 2009
From: pedro at plex.nl (Pedro Janssen)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:35:39 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] query
References: <002801ca83d2$83d49b80$0102a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>
	<29f585dd0912230647m775401cbr426236d671a38d64@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002101ca83ed$f62ccf20$0102a8c0@qmotionfaa3ad9>

Hello Arthur,

thanks,
i will try this out tomorrow at work

Best Wishes

Pedro


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From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] query


> Of course you can!
>
> SELECT PatID FROM myTable
> WHERE Diag = "Coeliakie" AND Immuno = "IgA" AND Date > Date() - 30 AND
> Mateerial = "Duodenum".
>
> If you're using SQL Server, substitute the double quotes with single 
> quotes.
>
> hth,
> Arthur
>
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Pedro Janssen <pedro at plex.nl> wrote:
>
>> Hello Group,
>>
>> i need to filter out Patients [PatID] with the diagnosis [Diag] =
>> "*Coeliakie*" and Immunology [Immuno] = "IgA" and have undergone a new
>> examination, within a month [Date], where the sample [Materiaal] =
>> "Duodenum"
>>
>> Normally i do these with several query's etc.
>>
>> Can i do this in one?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Pedro
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Dec 23 11:18:55 2009
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:18:55 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Acronis Backup Software
In-Reply-To: <0C3D463263B74EE9B39E37F84BC000CA@danwaters>
References: <6ef6ac2c0912211833s26ee2en96fab45cfce773be@mail.gmail.com>
	<AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E343537E6@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
	<0C3D463263B74EE9B39E37F84BC000CA@danwaters>
Message-ID: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E34353C02@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>

Now I'm one of those people who has never been able to get ghost to play nicely with my laptops.  YMMV I suppose.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 8:40 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Acronis Backup Software

I needed new backup software for Windows 7 and looked a few different ones.
I start at www.toptenreviews.com to see what the top sellers are, and then
go to reviews at www.newegg.com and www.amazon.com.  

For Acronis, some people really liked it and had good luck, but a larger
than typical number of people had a lot of trouble.  So I decided to update
to Ghost 15 from Ghost 9.  Ghost 15 has a nice feature where I can type in
the name of a file, and it will present me with a list of all the versions
of that file that have been backed up!  Ghost 15 has been working well for
several weeks now.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:08 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Acronis Backup Software

I've used Acronis TrueImage and endorse it heartily.  However, I've never
tried it on an SBS machine, so I can't help.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Janet Erbach
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 6:33 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Acronis Backup Software

Hello -

Does anyone have experience with Acronis Backup software installed on
Windows Small Business Server 2008?  I tried installing a trial version of
'Acronis Backup and Recover 10 Server for Windows'  and had alot of trouble
with it.  I've uninstalled that and am now installing the trial for the
'Advanced Service SBS Edition' and am a little appalled at how HUGE it is.
It took an hour to download the installation file, and the install itself is
going to take a good half hour.  I'm wondering if any of you have used it
and if it's worth the trouble.  I've been using, sort-of-successfully,
Casper to do my backups, and this is a monster compared to that!

Janet Erbach
IT Administrator
Natural Healthy Concepts
www.naturalhealthyconcepts.com
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Wed Dec 23 11:25:04 2009
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:25:04 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Try this one again
In-Reply-To: <4B31C852.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
References: <4B308746.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
	<D92C9D4AFFC04F6988BCE8F6C8D6724B@reubennx9500>
	<4B30A392.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
	<AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E343537EC@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
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It isn't clear to me what you're doing.  It looked like you were referring to the form control values in the query, which is something I long ago stopped doing.  Instead, you can use code to create  querydef (if dao) object and set the parameters it needs in code without a direct reference to the form controls.  That's what I was suggesting.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Try this one again

I don't think I'm understanding you Charolotte...I thought that is what I was doing. Unless what you are saying, is that, instead of using a query as the source of the data, that I just put this code, behind the report itself. I guess I could have gone this way. And, I used to do this more, when I was programming more. But, this time I wanted a "backup" plan, in case it was late, or if the report didn't work correctly...they can still use the query if they had to.

>>> Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> 12/22/2009 11:15 AM >>>
An easier way would be to pass the required parameters for the report to the voucher report and let it populate itself either creating its SQL in code or passing the parameters to a query.  Trying to make everything "see" everything else is a good way to bring on a migraine.

Charlotte Foust


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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Dec 23 11:31:40 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:31:40 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas
In-Reply-To: <4dd71a0c0912230759v6ed9a559sf35cd0df442ed548@mail.gmail.com>
References: <sb320b64.078@cactus.dk>
	<4dd71a0c0912230759v6ed9a559sf35cd0df442ed548@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B3253FC.4010709@colbyconsulting.com>

I soooo want to do the EuroRail before I die.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Doug Steele wrote:
> At this time last year I was in Europe visiting my son.  Before I left, I
> bought a EurRail pass.  The cheapest option was First Class for the two of
> us.  I've been to Europe before, but never travelled First Class rail.  What
> an eye opener!  Just about the best travelling I've ever done - comfortable,
> lots of room, food, drink, newspapers, extra friendly staff.  A huge
> contrast from flying, and nearly as fast.  On one memorable trip on a Thales
> (French) train, they even had free wi-fi.  I was able to log in to Google
> Earth on my iPhone and watch the countryside ripping past us on my screen at
> about 200kph, while simultaneously watching it through the window.  A geek's
> delight.
> 
> Doug
> 
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 3:21 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all
>>
>> At this time where you can count the hours till you _have_ to leave your
>> keyboard I wish all my fellow listers a Merry Christmas.
>>
>> As a small Christmas present - free to use and distribute - I bring you
>> this link to an extraordinary docu video of a size that will make your
>> download wire glow.
>> It shows the full travel from Bergen to Oslo, the second largest city and
>> the capital of Norway, by rail via "Bergensbanen", a route which had its 100
>> years anniversary Nov. 27th this year.
>>
>> With its length of 526,64 km typically more than 1000 m above the sea
>> through the mountains via 182 tunnels, it is rated as one of the ten most
>> spectacular railroads in the World by Chicago Tribune in 2005 and lasts for
>> more than 7 hours. The scenes from Hoth in Star Wars Episode V, The Empire
>> Strikes Back, were filmed at Finse, a small town along the route.
>>
>> The tour was recorded in HD TV and broadcast with some interviews in
>> between by the Norwegian public service TV, NRK, and attracted 1.2 mio.
>> viewers.
>> The download, however, is the clean view as seen from the engine. At a
>> whopping size of 165 GB it is too much for most people, so a scaled-down
>> version at 1280 x 720 is offered at "only" 22 GB:
>>
>>  http://nrkbeta.no/2009/12/18/bergensbanen-eng/
>>
>> So if you miss a present for the railroad-nerd of your family, get a USB
>> disk and start downloading now!
>>
>> Of course, nothing is like the real travel. I took the ride with my wife
>> Rita some years ago - we both love railroads - and can highly recommend it.
>>
>> /gustav
>>
>>
>> --
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>>


From John.Clark at niagaracounty.com  Wed Dec 23 14:06:31 2009
From: John.Clark at niagaracounty.com (John Clark)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:06:31 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Try this one again
In-Reply-To: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E34353C0B@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
References: <4B308746.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
	<D92C9D4AFFC04F6988BCE8F6C8D6724B@reubennx9500>
	<4B30A392.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
	<AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E343537EC@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
	<4B31C852.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>
	<AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E34353C0B@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>
Message-ID: <4B3231F6.167F.006B.0@niagaracounty.com>

Actually, yes, I think we ARE talking about the same thing. And, yes, you are probably correct, and maybe I will try that. I've used SQL to gather data for a form before, and I think I have done it for reports too, but that was usually through the properties and not so much code. It is just about finished now, so I don't know how much I should mess w/it.

>>> Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> 12/23/2009 12:25 PM >>>
It isn't clear to me what you're doing.  It looked like you were referring to the form control values in the query, which is something I long ago stopped doing.  Instead, you can use code to create  querydef (if dao) object and set the parameters it needs in code without a direct reference to the form controls.  That's what I was suggesting.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 4:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Try this one again

I don't think I'm understanding you Charolotte...I thought that is what I was doing. Unless what you are saying, is that, instead of using a query as the source of the data, that I just put this code, behind the report itself. I guess I could have gone this way. And, I used to do this more, when I was programming more. But, this time I wanted a "backup" plan, in case it was late, or if the report didn't work correctly...they can still use the query if they had to.

>>> Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> 12/22/2009 11:15 AM >>>
An easier way would be to pass the required parameters for the report to the voucher report and let it populate itself either creating its SQL in code or passing the parameters to a query.  Trying to make everything "see" everything else is a good way to bring on a migraine.

Charlotte Foust


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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Dec 23 16:24:34 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 08:24:34 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas
In-Reply-To: <sb320b64.078@cactus.dk>
References: <sb320b64.078@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <4B3298A2.9275.2D4D8CE1@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

If I start downloading now, I should just about have it all by Christmas Day -----> 2010   :-(

-- 
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On 23 Dec 2009 at 12:21, Gustav Brock wrote:

> The download, however, is the clean view as seen from the engine. At a
> whopping size of 165 GB it is too much for most people, so a
> scaled-down version at 1280 x 720 is offered at "only" 22 GB: 
> 
>   http://nrkbeta.no/2009/12/18/bergensbanen-eng/
> 
> So if you miss a present for the railroad-nerd of your family, get a USB disk and start downloading now!
> 
> Of course, nothing is like the real travel. I took the ride with my wife Rita some years ago - we both love railroads - and can highly recommend it.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> 
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From Darryl.Collins at anz.com  Wed Dec 23 17:06:33 2009
From: Darryl.Collins at anz.com (Collins, Darryl)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 10:06:33 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas
In-Reply-To: <4dd71a0c0912230759v6ed9a559sf35cd0df442ed548@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6DC4725FDCDD72428D6114F1B6CC6E8101688D1D@EXUAU020HWT110.oceania.corp.anz.com>


Another great thing about proper train travel is you usually get on and
off right in the city itself, not dumped 150+ kms from anywhere in a
darn paddock with a 2 hour wait to check on and off whist the folks in
the rubber gloves checking you out for explosives.  The glamour age of
air travel is long dead.

Train travel is the future, not the past IMHO...  Sadly in Australia our
various Governments don't see it that way. Yet...

Cheers
Darryl.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Steele
Sent: Thursday, 24 December 2009 3:00 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas

At this time last year I was in Europe visiting my son.  Before I left,
I bought a EurRail pass.  The cheapest option was First Class for the
two of us.  I've been to Europe before, but never travelled First Class
rail.  What an eye opener!  Just about the best travelling I've ever
done - comfortable, lots of room, food, drink, newspapers, extra
friendly staff.  A huge contrast from flying, and nearly as fast.  On
one memorable trip on a Thales
(French) train, they even had free wi-fi.  I was able to log in to
Google Earth on my iPhone and watch the countryside ripping past us on
my screen at about 200kph, while simultaneously watching it through the
window.  A geek's delight.

Doug

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 3:21 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> At this time where you can count the hours till you _have_ to leave 
> your keyboard I wish all my fellow listers a Merry Christmas.
>
> As a small Christmas present - free to use and distribute - I bring 
> you this link to an extraordinary docu video of a size that will make 
> your download wire glow.
> It shows the full travel from Bergen to Oslo, the second largest city 
> and the capital of Norway, by rail via "Bergensbanen", a route which 
> had its 100 years anniversary Nov. 27th this year.
>
> With its length of 526,64 km typically more than 1000 m above the sea 
> through the mountains via 182 tunnels, it is rated as one of the ten 
> most spectacular railroads in the World by Chicago Tribune in 2005 and

> lasts for more than 7 hours. The scenes from Hoth in Star Wars Episode

> V, The Empire Strikes Back, were filmed at Finse, a small town along
the route.
>
> The tour was recorded in HD TV and broadcast with some interviews in 
> between by the Norwegian public service TV, NRK, and attracted 1.2
mio.
> viewers.
> The download, however, is the clean view as seen from the engine. At a

> whopping size of 165 GB it is too much for most people, so a 
> scaled-down version at 1280 x 720 is offered at "only" 22 GB:
>
>  http://nrkbeta.no/2009/12/18/bergensbanen-eng/
>
> So if you miss a present for the railroad-nerd of your family, get a 
> USB disk and start downloading now!
>
> Of course, nothing is like the real travel. I took the ride with my 
> wife Rita some years ago - we both love railroads - and can highly
recommend it.
>
> /gustav
>
>
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From drawbridgej at sympatico.ca  Wed Dec 23 18:41:34 2009
From: drawbridgej at sympatico.ca (Jack and Pat)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:41:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] LearnDevNow -  Any one used their onlinetraining???
In-Reply-To: <4B01765292374DC89A062F58F5400440@AMDXP>
References: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E34353800@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com><4B30F94B.9090709@colbyconsulting.com><49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB7217006D7932D@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET>
	<4B01765292374DC89A062F58F5400440@AMDXP>
Message-ID: <D7E52332319D457796A72C60BEFBC658@AMDXP>

I'm sure others on AccessD have seen the LearnDevNow site. 
Has anyone ever used this particular training provider???? It's a one year
subscription to a number of video courses. It is streaming only - no
downloads. Ken Getz is a participant.

Here is part of the email I received

.......
Need to learn .NET technologies like SharePoint, SQL Server or Visual
Studio? Don't miss our lowest price ever on the LearnDevNow online learning
library. A one-year subscription is regularly $349 - but if you subscribe
before the end of the year, you'll pay JUST $99!

- 2,500 practical training videos
- 1,150+ hours of learning
- Future training courses included free (Coming soon: Visual Studio 2010)
- Microsoft MVP and expert instructors
- 100% money-back guarantee

NOW JUST $99 PER YEAR THRU 12/31/09
..................

Courses include  C#,ASP.Net, Sharepoint  etc....

Jack








-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 2:02 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Multimonitor toolbar

Nice find.

Thanks. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:52 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Multimonitor toolbar

Look closely at the top (title) bar of any program and you will now see a
little arrow at the right hand side.  That arrow will move the program back
and forth between the monitors.

I am loving this thing.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Charlotte Foust wrote:
> That is COOL, indeed!  I sent the link to everybody in my office,
since we all use multiple monitors.  Thanks John.
> 
> Charlotte
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 8:18 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving; VBA
> Subject: [AccessD] Multimonitor toolbar
> 
> I just found this, WAY COOL!  It puts a toolbar at the bottom of the 
> second monitor that displays the icons for the programs being
displayed on the second monitor.
> 
> How come no one told me about this?
> 
> http://www.mediachance.com/free/multimon.htm
> 
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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Dec 24 10:45:00 2009
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 10:45:00 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] LearnDevNow -  Any one used their onlinetraining???
In-Reply-To: <D7E52332319D457796A72C60BEFBC658@AMDXP>
References: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E34353800@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com><4B30F94B.9090709@colbyconsulting.com><49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB7217006D7932D@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET>	<4B01765292374DC89A062F58F5400440@AMDXP>
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I have my doubts about this being on the level. The home site for the Ken
Getz training videos listed on that site is
http://www.appdev.com/default.asp
Appdev wants just a tad more than $99 a year for their video training.

Be wary my friend,
John B


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jack and Pat
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 6:42 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] LearnDevNow - Any one used their onlinetraining???

I'm sure others on AccessD have seen the LearnDevNow site. 
Has anyone ever used this particular training provider???? It's a one year
subscription to a number of video courses. It is streaming only - no
downloads. Ken Getz is a participant.

Here is part of the email I received

.......
Need to learn .NET technologies like SharePoint, SQL Server or Visual
Studio? Don't miss our lowest price ever on the LearnDevNow online learning
library. A one-year subscription is regularly $349 - but if you subscribe
before the end of the year, you'll pay JUST $99!

- 2,500 practical training videos
- 1,150+ hours of learning
- Future training courses included free (Coming soon: Visual Studio 2010)
- Microsoft MVP and expert instructors
- 100% money-back guarantee

NOW JUST $99 PER YEAR THRU 12/31/09
..................

Courses include  C#,ASP.Net, Sharepoint  etc....

Jack








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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 2:02 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Multimonitor toolbar

Nice find.

Thanks. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:52 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Multimonitor toolbar

Look closely at the top (title) bar of any program and you will now see a
little arrow at the right hand side.  That arrow will move the program back
and forth between the monitors.

I am loving this thing.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Charlotte Foust wrote:
> That is COOL, indeed!  I sent the link to everybody in my office,
since we all use multiple monitors.  Thanks John.
> 
> Charlotte
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 8:18 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving; VBA
> Subject: [AccessD] Multimonitor toolbar
> 
> I just found this, WAY COOL!  It puts a toolbar at the bottom of the 
> second monitor that displays the icons for the programs being
displayed on the second monitor.
> 
> How come no one told me about this?
> 
> http://www.mediachance.com/free/multimon.htm
> 
> 
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From drawbridgej at sympatico.ca  Thu Dec 24 10:52:29 2009
From: drawbridgej at sympatico.ca (Jack and Pat)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 11:52:29 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] LearnDevNow -  Any one used their onlinetraining???
In-Reply-To: <000001ca84b8$6f086330$4d192990$@net>
References: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E34353800@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com><4B30F94B.9090709@colbyconsulting.com><49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB7217006D7932D@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET>	<4B01765292374DC89A062F58F5400440@AMDXP><D7E52332319D457796A72C60BEFBC658@AMDXP>
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Thanks John

Here's the link to the AboutUs for LearnDevNow

http://www.learndevnow.com/about.aspx

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:45 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] LearnDevNow - Any one used their onlinetraining???

I have my doubts about this being on the level. The home site for the Ken
Getz training videos listed on that site is
http://www.appdev.com/default.asp
Appdev wants just a tad more than $99 a year for their video training.

Be wary my friend,
John B


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jack and Pat
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 6:42 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] LearnDevNow - Any one used their onlinetraining???

I'm sure others on AccessD have seen the LearnDevNow site. 
Has anyone ever used this particular training provider???? It's a one year
subscription to a number of video courses. It is streaming only - no
downloads. Ken Getz is a participant.

Here is part of the email I received

.......
Need to learn .NET technologies like SharePoint, SQL Server or Visual
Studio? Don't miss our lowest price ever on the LearnDevNow online learning
library. A one-year subscription is regularly $349 - but if you subscribe
before the end of the year, you'll pay JUST $99!

- 2,500 practical training videos
- 1,150+ hours of learning
- Future training courses included free (Coming soon: Visual Studio 2010)
- Microsoft MVP and expert instructors
- 100% money-back guarantee

NOW JUST $99 PER YEAR THRU 12/31/09
..................

Courses include  C#,ASP.Net, Sharepoint  etc....

Jack








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Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 2:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Multimonitor toolbar

Nice find.

Thanks. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:52 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Multimonitor toolbar

Look closely at the top (title) bar of any program and you will now see a
little arrow at the right hand side.  That arrow will move the program back
and forth between the monitors.

I am loving this thing.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Charlotte Foust wrote:
> That is COOL, indeed!  I sent the link to everybody in my office,
since we all use multiple monitors.  Thanks John.
> 
> Charlotte
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 8:18 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving; VBA
> Subject: [AccessD] Multimonitor toolbar
> 
> I just found this, WAY COOL!  It puts a toolbar at the bottom of the 
> second monitor that displays the icons for the programs being
displayed on the second monitor.
> 
> How come no one told me about this?
> 
> http://www.mediachance.com/free/multimon.htm
> 
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From john at winhaven.net  Thu Dec 24 11:35:56 2009
From: john at winhaven.net (John Bartow)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 11:35:56 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] LearnDevNow -  Any one used their onlinetraining???
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Let us know if this works out for you.

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jack and Pat
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:52 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] LearnDevNow - Any one used their onlinetraining???

Thanks John

Here's the link to the AboutUs for LearnDevNow

http://www.learndevnow.com/about.aspx

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John Bartow
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:45 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] LearnDevNow - Any one used their onlinetraining???

I have my doubts about this being on the level. The home site for the Ken
Getz training videos listed on that site is
http://www.appdev.com/default.asp
Appdev wants just a tad more than $99 a year for their video training.

Be wary my friend,
John B


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Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 6:42 PM
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Subject: [AccessD] LearnDevNow - Any one used their onlinetraining???

I'm sure others on AccessD have seen the LearnDevNow site. 
Has anyone ever used this particular training provider???? It's a one year
subscription to a number of video courses. It is streaming only - no
downloads. Ken Getz is a participant.

Here is part of the email I received

.......
Need to learn .NET technologies like SharePoint, SQL Server or Visual
Studio? Don't miss our lowest price ever on the LearnDevNow online learning
library. A one-year subscription is regularly $349 - but if you subscribe
before the end of the year, you'll pay JUST $99!

- 2,500 practical training videos
- 1,150+ hours of learning
- Future training courses included free (Coming soon: Visual Studio 2010)
- Microsoft MVP and expert instructors
- 100% money-back guarantee

NOW JUST $99 PER YEAR THRU 12/31/09
..................

Courses include  C#,ASP.Net, Sharepoint  etc....

Jack








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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 2:02 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Multimonitor toolbar

Nice find.

Thanks. 

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:52 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Multimonitor toolbar

Look closely at the top (title) bar of any program and you will now see a
little arrow at the right hand side.  That arrow will move the program back
and forth between the monitors.

I am loving this thing.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Charlotte Foust wrote:
> That is COOL, indeed!  I sent the link to everybody in my office,
since we all use multiple monitors.  Thanks John.
> 
> Charlotte
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 8:18 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving; VBA
> Subject: [AccessD] Multimonitor toolbar
> 
> I just found this, WAY COOL!  It puts a toolbar at the bottom of the 
> second monitor that displays the icons for the programs being
displayed on the second monitor.
> 
> How come no one told me about this?
> 
> http://www.mediachance.com/free/multimon.htm
> 
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From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru  Fri Dec 25 12:50:12 2009
From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 21:50:12 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas
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Merry Christmas and a Very Happy and Prosperous New Year for all of you!

I wonder, can I get with EurRail pass from Helsinki, Finland to Paris,
France in 10 days travelling by train not more  than 4 hours every day?:

Finland -> Sweden -> Denmark -> the Netherlands (or Germany) -> Belgium ->
[Luxemburg ->] France 

http://www.eurail.com/eurail-global-pass?currency=eur

Did anybody try to make such a trip?
Where one can get advised how to plan such a trip?

Thank you.

--
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-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas

I soooo want to do the EuroRail before I die.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Doug Steele wrote:
> At this time last year I was in Europe visiting my son.  Before I left, I
> bought a EurRail pass.  The cheapest option was First Class for the two of
> us.  I've been to Europe before, but never travelled First Class rail.
What
> an eye opener!  Just about the best travelling I've ever done -
comfortable,
> lots of room, food, drink, newspapers, extra friendly staff.  A huge
> contrast from flying, and nearly as fast.  On one memorable trip on a
Thales
> (French) train, they even had free wi-fi.  I was able to log in to Google
> Earth on my iPhone and watch the countryside ripping past us on my screen
at
> about 200kph, while simultaneously watching it through the window.  A
geek's
> delight.
> 
> Doug
> 
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 3:21 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all
>>
>> At this time where you can count the hours till you _have_ to leave your
>> keyboard I wish all my fellow listers a Merry Christmas.
>>
>> As a small Christmas present - free to use and distribute - I bring you
>> this link to an extraordinary docu video of a size that will make your
>> download wire glow.
>> It shows the full travel from Bergen to Oslo, the second largest city and
>> the capital of Norway, by rail via "Bergensbanen", a route which had its
100
>> years anniversary Nov. 27th this year.
>>
>> With its length of 526,64 km typically more than 1000 m above the sea
>> through the mountains via 182 tunnels, it is rated as one of the ten most
>> spectacular railroads in the World by Chicago Tribune in 2005 and lasts
for
>> more than 7 hours. The scenes from Hoth in Star Wars Episode V, The
Empire
>> Strikes Back, were filmed at Finse, a small town along the route.
>>
>> The tour was recorded in HD TV and broadcast with some interviews in
>> between by the Norwegian public service TV, NRK, and attracted 1.2 mio.
>> viewers.
>> The download, however, is the clean view as seen from the engine. At a
>> whopping size of 165 GB it is too much for most people, so a scaled-down
>> version at 1280 x 720 is offered at "only" 22 GB:
>>
>>  http://nrkbeta.no/2009/12/18/bergensbanen-eng/
>>
>> So if you miss a present for the railroad-nerd of your family, get a USB
>> disk and start downloading now!
>>
>> Of course, nothing is like the real travel. I took the ride with my wife
>> Rita some years ago - we both love railroads - and can highly recommend
it.
>>
>> /gustav
>>
>>
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From darren at activebilling.com.au  Sat Dec 26 03:14:59 2009
From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren - Active Billing)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:14:59 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Get file name after drag and drop_SecondSend
In-Reply-To: <BLU144-W5A851529416403C959D59A1810@phx.gbl>
References: <043c01ca7a02$c60ffbe0$301b910a@denzilnote><013501ca82b0$8e67e930$301b910a@denzilnote><4B30CE8A.50305@colbyconsulting.com>,
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	<BLU144-W5A851529416403C959D59A1810@phx.gbl>
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Hi Jurgen
When you say great code are you referring to the link in Michael's post below or
was there some code or example in your post I can't see?

Many thanks
 
Darren


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jurgen Welz
Sent: Wednesday, 23 December 2009 8:46 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K:Get file name after drag and drop_SecondSend


Great Code.  Works well in Access 2003.  Properties on the VBA Editor Help ->
About screen in this version of Access shows VB 6.3.  I added the form code to a
sub form Filelist common to several forms in an application.  It stores the full
file path and name in the strFilename variable of the Public Dropped procedure
as written.

 

This procedure will allow me to directly copy files to one or more of the
folders displayed in my file list subform using file procedures in VBA.  Very
Nice!

Ciao 

J?rgen Welz 

Edmonton, Alberta 

jwelz at hotmail.com


 
> From: mmattys at rochester.rr.com
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:55:10 -0500
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K:Get file name after drag and drop_SecondSend
> 
> Darren,
> 
> You might try here:
>
http://digitalpbk.blogspot.com/2006/12/drag-n-drop-files-from-explorer-to-vb.htm
l
> I looked through a few pages, this one looks pretty good.
> -
> Michael R Mattys
> MapPoint and Database Dev
> www.mattysconsulting.com 		 	   		  
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From hkotsch at arcor.de  Sat Dec 26 04:01:57 2009
From: hkotsch at arcor.de (Helmut Kotsch)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 11:01:57 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas
In-Reply-To: <044001ca8593$17e830e0$47b892a0$@spb.ru>
Message-ID: <JIECLJNJOMBJFEDLONCBOEIPGHAA.hkotsch@arcor.de>

Shamil,

no I have not done such a trip. My kids did it with their American friends
some 25 years ago.
For planning purposes you also could look under the German railroad website
at:

http://www.bahn.de/i/view/GBR/en/prices/index.shtml

I don't think you can use EurRail since you are a Russian resident. (I hope
I'm right with this assumption). According to the following page you are an
European and therefore not eligible.

http://www.eurail.com/eurail-booking-terms

It says:

Country of Residence

You can buy a Eurail Pass if you are a resident of a non-European country.
You are considered to be a resident of a country if you have been living in
this country for longer than 6 months on the first day of validity of your
Pass.

Residents from these countries are not entitled to buy a Eurail Pass:
Albania, Andorra, Austria, Belarus, Belgium, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Bulgaria,
Croatia, Czech Republic, Cyprus, Denmark, Estonia, Faeroer, Finland, FYR
Macedonia, France, Germany, Gibraltar, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland,
Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Moldova, Monaco,
Montenegro, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, San
Marino, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey,
Ukraine, United Kingdom, Vatican.

Train staff will check your residency in your travel document, so make sure
that you bring the right documents.

As a Russian you ,as all other Europeans, have to use the InterRail ticket.

For InterRail it reads:

http://www.bahn.de/i/view/GBR/en/prices/europe/interrail.shtml

Participating InterRail countries

Austria, Belgium, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic,
Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Great Britain, Greece, Hungary, Italy,
Luxembourg, Montenegro, The Netherlands, Republic of Ireland, Republic of
Macedonia, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Serbia, Slovakia,
Slovenia, Spain, Switzerland, Sweden, Turkey and the pass is also valid on
the "Attica" ferry operating between Greece and Italy.

This is a fantastic option for week-long trips through Europe or even
extensive travel.

Please note: InterRail Passes are only available for residents of Europe.
People from outside Europe are entitled to purchase the Eurail Pass instead.

I'm sorry I cannot give you details for such a trip. However the above
mentioned pages should give enough information to plan your trip in detail.

You could also check:

http://www.bahn.de/i/view/GBR/en/prices/europe/europa-spezial.shtml

Hope that helps. Pls let me know if you need further assistance.


Helmut














-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Shamil
Salakhetdinov
Gesendet: Freitag, 25. Dezember 2009 19:50
An: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Betreff: Re: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas


Merry Christmas and a Very Happy and Prosperous New Year for all of you!

I wonder, can I get with EurRail pass from Helsinki, Finland to Paris,
France in 10 days travelling by train not more  than 4 hours every day?:

Finland -> Sweden -> Denmark -> the Netherlands (or Germany) -> Belgium ->
[Luxemburg ->] France

http://www.eurail.com/eurail-global-pass?currency=eur

Did anybody try to make such a trip?
Where one can get advised how to plan such a trip?

Thank you.

--
Shamil

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas

I soooo want to do the EuroRail before I die.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Doug Steele wrote:
> At this time last year I was in Europe visiting my son.  Before I left, I
> bought a EurRail pass.  The cheapest option was First Class for the two of
> us.  I've been to Europe before, but never travelled First Class rail.
What
> an eye opener!  Just about the best travelling I've ever done -
comfortable,
> lots of room, food, drink, newspapers, extra friendly staff.  A huge
> contrast from flying, and nearly as fast.  On one memorable trip on a
Thales
> (French) train, they even had free wi-fi.  I was able to log in to Google
> Earth on my iPhone and watch the countryside ripping past us on my screen
at
> about 200kph, while simultaneously watching it through the window.  A
geek's
> delight.
>
> Doug
>
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 3:21 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> At this time where you can count the hours till you _have_ to leave your
>> keyboard I wish all my fellow listers a Merry Christmas.
>>
>> As a small Christmas present - free to use and distribute - I bring you
>> this link to an extraordinary docu video of a size that will make your
>> download wire glow.
>> It shows the full travel from Bergen to Oslo, the second largest city and
>> the capital of Norway, by rail via "Bergensbanen", a route which had its
100
>> years anniversary Nov. 27th this year.
>>
>> With its length of 526,64 km typically more than 1000 m above the sea
>> through the mountains via 182 tunnels, it is rated as one of the ten most
>> spectacular railroads in the World by Chicago Tribune in 2005 and lasts
for
>> more than 7 hours. The scenes from Hoth in Star Wars Episode V, The
Empire
>> Strikes Back, were filmed at Finse, a small town along the route.
>>
>> The tour was recorded in HD TV and broadcast with some interviews in
>> between by the Norwegian public service TV, NRK, and attracted 1.2 mio.
>> viewers.
>> The download, however, is the clean view as seen from the engine. At a
>> whopping size of 165 GB it is too much for most people, so a scaled-down
>> version at 1280 x 720 is offered at "only" 22 GB:
>>
>>  http://nrkbeta.no/2009/12/18/bergensbanen-eng/
>>
>> So if you miss a present for the railroad-nerd of your family, get a USB
>> disk and start downloading now!
>>
>> Of course, nothing is like the real travel. I took the ride with my wife
>> Rita some years ago - we both love railroads - and can highly recommend
it.
>>
>> /gustav
>>
>>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Dec 26 09:44:37 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 07:44:37 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Installing a new version of Access
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Hi All:

Are there anymore considerations when installing Access 2003, than making
sure the new version has its own 'Program Files' directory, when an existing
version of Access97 must continue to be operational?

I should know all this but I do not trust the internet as much as you guys.

TIA
Jim 



From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sat Dec 26 10:25:44 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 08:25:44 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Installing a new version of Access
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I never had any trouble with 2000 and 2003 on the same box as well as 2003
and 2007 on the same box.  Also ran 97 and 200 on the same box years ago.
Never ran 97 and 2003 together but can't imagine any problem.  Unless it's a
dll conflict.  Can you Ghost the drive before installing?  

R

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 7:45 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Installing a new version of Access

Hi All:

Are there anymore considerations when installing Access 2003, than making
sure the new version has its own 'Program Files' directory, when an existing
version of Access97 must continue to be operational?

I should know all this but I do not trust the internet as much as you guys.

TIA
Jim 

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From andy at minstersystems.co.uk  Sat Dec 26 11:24:45 2009
From: andy at minstersystems.co.uk (Andy Lacey)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 17:24:45 -0000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas
In-Reply-To: <JIECLJNJOMBJFEDLONCBOEIPGHAA.hkotsch@arcor.de>
Message-ID: <D157E90FEAAD4CADA93F511244667D45@MINSTER>

Hi Shamil
I have no idea but this http://www.seat61.com/ is supposed to be a great
website for rail travel information so maybe you'll find out there.
Andy


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Helmut Kotsch
Sent: 26 December 2009 10:02
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas


Shamil,

no I have not done such a trip. My kids did it with their American friends
some 25 years ago.
For planning purposes you also could look under the German railroad website
at:

http://www.bahn.de/i/view/GBR/en/prices/index.shtml

I don't think you can use EurRail since you are a Russian resident. (I hope
I'm right with this assumption). According to the following page you are an
European and therefore not eligible.

http://www.eurail.com/eurail-booking-terms

It says:

Country of Residence

You can buy a Eurail Pass if you are a resident of a non-European country.
You are considered to be a resident of a country if you have been living in
this country for longer than 6 months on the first day of validity of your
Pass.

Residents from these countries are not entitled to buy a Eurail Pass:
Albania, Andorra, Austria, Belarus, Belgium, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Bulgaria,
Croatia, Czech Republic, Cyprus, Denmark, Estonia, Faeroer, Finland, FYR
Macedonia, France, Germany, Gibraltar, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland,
Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Moldova, Monaco,
Montenegro, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, San
Marino, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey,
Ukraine, United Kingdom, Vatican.

Train staff will check your residency in your travel document, so make sure
that you bring the right documents.

As a Russian you ,as all other Europeans, have to use the InterRail ticket.

For InterRail it reads:

http://www.bahn.de/i/view/GBR/en/prices/europe/interrail.shtml

Participating InterRail countries

Austria, Belgium, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic,
Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Great Britain, Greece, Hungary, Italy,
Luxembourg, Montenegro, The Netherlands, Republic of Ireland, Republic of
Macedonia, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Serbia, Slovakia,
Slovenia, Spain, Switzerland, Sweden, Turkey and the pass is also valid on
the "Attica" ferry operating between Greece and Italy.

This is a fantastic option for week-long trips through Europe or even
extensive travel.

Please note: InterRail Passes are only available for residents of Europe.
People from outside Europe are entitled to purchase the Eurail Pass instead.

I'm sorry I cannot give you details for such a trip. However the above
mentioned pages should give enough information to plan your trip in detail.

You could also check:

http://www.bahn.de/i/view/GBR/en/prices/europe/europa-spezial.shtml

Hope that helps. Pls let me know if you need further assistance.


Helmut














-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
Von: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]Im Auftrag von Shamil
Salakhetdinov
Gesendet: Freitag, 25. Dezember 2009 19:50
An: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Betreff: Re: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas


Merry Christmas and a Very Happy and Prosperous New Year for all of you!

I wonder, can I get with EurRail pass from Helsinki, Finland to Paris,
France in 10 days travelling by train not more  than 4 hours every day?:

Finland -> Sweden -> Denmark -> the Netherlands (or Germany) -> Belgium ->
[Luxemburg ->] France

http://www.eurail.com/eurail-global-pass?currency=eur

Did anybody try to make such a trip?
Where one can get advised how to plan such a trip?

Thank you.

--
Shamil

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:32 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas

I soooo want to do the EuroRail before I die.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Doug Steele wrote:
> At this time last year I was in Europe visiting my son.  Before I left, I
> bought a EurRail pass.  The cheapest option was First Class for the two of
> us.  I've been to Europe before, but never travelled First Class rail.
What
> an eye opener!  Just about the best travelling I've ever done -
comfortable,
> lots of room, food, drink, newspapers, extra friendly staff.  A huge
> contrast from flying, and nearly as fast.  On one memorable trip on a
Thales
> (French) train, they even had free wi-fi.  I was able to log in to Google
> Earth on my iPhone and watch the countryside ripping past us on my screen
at
> about 200kph, while simultaneously watching it through the window.  A
geek's
> delight.
>
> Doug
>
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 3:21 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> At this time where you can count the hours till you _have_ to leave your
>> keyboard I wish all my fellow listers a Merry Christmas.
>>
>> As a small Christmas present - free to use and distribute - I bring you
>> this link to an extraordinary docu video of a size that will make your
>> download wire glow.
>> It shows the full travel from Bergen to Oslo, the second largest city and
>> the capital of Norway, by rail via "Bergensbanen", a route which had its
100
>> years anniversary Nov. 27th this year.
>>
>> With its length of 526,64 km typically more than 1000 m above the sea
>> through the mountains via 182 tunnels, it is rated as one of the ten most
>> spectacular railroads in the World by Chicago Tribune in 2005 and lasts
for
>> more than 7 hours. The scenes from Hoth in Star Wars Episode V, The
Empire
>> Strikes Back, were filmed at Finse, a small town along the route.
>>
>> The tour was recorded in HD TV and broadcast with some interviews in
>> between by the Norwegian public service TV, NRK, and attracted 1.2 mio.
>> viewers.
>> The download, however, is the clean view as seen from the engine. At a
>> whopping size of 165 GB it is too much for most people, so a scaled-down
>> version at 1280 x 720 is offered at "only" 22 GB:
>>
>>  http://nrkbeta.no/2009/12/18/bergensbanen-eng/
>>
>> So if you miss a present for the railroad-nerd of your family, get a USB
>> disk and start downloading now!
>>
>> Of course, nothing is like the real travel. I took the ride with my wife
>> Rita some years ago - we both love railroads - and can highly recommend
it.
>>
>> /gustav
>>
>>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Dec 26 11:34:13 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 09:34:13 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Installing a new version of Access
In-Reply-To: <4DB58627C7EC4C1CB6D5427200DC2FCF@HAL9005>
References: <4B1528E4.50806@colbyconsulting.com>
	<4B154518.7177.1230C64@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<4b154697.1c05d00a.2069.ffffcbb8@mx.google.com>
	<4B15499A.19731.134A9FA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<FBAFDD4E98AD48A1AE02051DDD5A6CE5@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4DB58627C7EC4C1CB6D5427200DC2FCF@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <6A09F3309C654A3A8AFC08320CE13137@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Hi Rocky:

It is good to hedge the bet. It sounds like it is as I suspected but thank
you for your confirmation.

Jim  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 8:26 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Installing a new version of Access

I never had any trouble with 2000 and 2003 on the same box as well as 2003
and 2007 on the same box.  Also ran 97 and 200 on the same box years ago.
Never ran 97 and 2003 together but can't imagine any problem.  Unless it's a
dll conflict.  Can you Ghost the drive before installing?  

R

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 7:45 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Installing a new version of Access

Hi All:

Are there anymore considerations when installing Access 2003, than making
sure the new version has its own 'Program Files' directory, when an existing
version of Access97 must continue to be operational?

I should know all this but I do not trust the internet as much as you guys.

TIA
Jim 

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From shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru  Sat Dec 26 11:55:15 2009
From: shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru (Shamil Salakhetdinov)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:55:15 +0300
Subject: [AccessD] Installing a new version of Access
In-Reply-To: <6A09F3309C654A3A8AFC08320CE13137@creativesystemdesigns.com>
References: <4B1528E4.50806@colbyconsulting.com>	<4B154518.7177.1230C64@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>	<4b154697.1c05d00a.2069.ffffcbb8@mx.google.com>	<4B15499A.19731.134A9FA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>	<FBAFDD4E98AD48A1AE02051DDD5A6CE5@creativesystemdesigns.com>	<4DB58627C7EC4C1CB6D5427200DC2FCF@HAL9005>
	<6A09F3309C654A3A8AFC08320CE13137@creativesystemdesigns.com>
Message-ID: <046d01ca8654$95591aa0$c00b4fe0$@spb.ru>

Hi Jim --

The same experience here: MS Access 97 and MS Access 2003 do coexist well on
the same PC when installed in different folders.

--
Shamil

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 8:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Installing a new version of Access

Hi Rocky:

It is good to hedge the bet. It sounds like it is as I suspected but thank
you for your confirmation.

Jim  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 8:26 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Installing a new version of Access

I never had any trouble with 2000 and 2003 on the same box as well as 2003
and 2007 on the same box.  Also ran 97 and 200 on the same box years ago.
Never ran 97 and 2003 together but can't imagine any problem.  Unless it's a
dll conflict.  Can you Ghost the drive before installing?  

R

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 7:45 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Installing a new version of Access

Hi All:

Are there anymore considerations when installing Access 2003, than making
sure the new version has its own 'Program Files' directory, when an existing
version of Access97 must continue to be operational?

I should know all this but I do not trust the internet as much as you guys.

TIA
Jim 


 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Dec 26 12:06:20 2009
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 10:06:20 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Installing a new version of Access
In-Reply-To: <046d01ca8654$95591aa0$c00b4fe0$@spb.ru>
References: <4B1528E4.50806@colbyconsulting.com>
	<4B154518.7177.1230C64@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<4b154697.1c05d00a.2069.ffffcbb8@mx.google.com>
	<4B15499A.19731.134A9FA@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<FBAFDD4E98AD48A1AE02051DDD5A6CE5@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<4DB58627C7EC4C1CB6D5427200DC2FCF@HAL9005>
	<6A09F3309C654A3A8AFC08320CE13137@creativesystemdesigns.com>
	<046d01ca8654$95591aa0$c00b4fe0$@spb.ru>
Message-ID: <1EEB7E0B089342B4AED15892182AE88C@creativesystemdesigns.com>

Thanks Shamil:

That confirms it... I feel much better now as I would hate to blow away this
company's main Invoicing and Estimating application by some simple and
stupid error. ;-)

Jim
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil
Salakhetdinov
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 9:55 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Installing a new version of Access

Hi Jim --

The same experience here: MS Access 97 and MS Access 2003 do coexist well on
the same PC when installed in different folders.

--
Shamil

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 8:34 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Installing a new version of Access

Hi Rocky:

It is good to hedge the bet. It sounds like it is as I suspected but thank
you for your confirmation.

Jim  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 8:26 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Installing a new version of Access

I never had any trouble with 2000 and 2003 on the same box as well as 2003
and 2007 on the same box.  Also ran 97 and 200 on the same box years ago.
Never ran 97 and 2003 together but can't imagine any problem.  Unless it's a
dll conflict.  Can you Ghost the drive before installing?  

R

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 7:45 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Installing a new version of Access

Hi All:

Are there anymore considerations when installing Access 2003, than making
sure the new version has its own 'Program Files' directory, when an existing
version of Access97 must continue to be operational?

I should know all this but I do not trust the internet as much as you guys.

TIA
Jim 


 

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From martinreid at gmail.com  Sat Dec 26 12:18:13 2009
From: martinreid at gmail.com (Martin)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:18:13 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] For Drew
Message-ID: <7d60f23a0912261018u566f180eya568fff1a21db5b0@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.blueservo.net/about.php


From dbdoug at gmail.com  Sat Dec 26 14:21:41 2009
From: dbdoug at gmail.com (Doug Steele)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 12:21:41 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] For Drew
In-Reply-To: <7d60f23a0912261018u566f180eya568fff1a21db5b0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7d60f23a0912261018u566f180eya568fff1a21db5b0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4dd71a0c0912261221k3db3fce9g531bf8f5bcf35384@mail.gmail.com>

That is so sad.

Doug

On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Martin <martinreid at gmail.com> wrote:

> http://www.blueservo.net/about.php
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Dec 26 15:07:13 2009
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 07:07:13 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] For Drew
In-Reply-To: <4dd71a0c0912261221k3db3fce9g531bf8f5bcf35384@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7d60f23a0912261018u566f180eya568fff1a21db5b0@mail.gmail.com>,
	<4dd71a0c0912261221k3db3fce9g531bf8f5bcf35384@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B367B01.22083.3C79D65F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

What is sad about it?

-- 
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On 26 Dec 2009 at 12:21, Doug Steele wrote:

> That is so sad.
> 
> Doug
> 
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Martin <martinreid at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > http://www.blueservo.net/about.php
> > --
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From dbdoug at gmail.com  Sat Dec 26 17:22:11 2009
From: dbdoug at gmail.com (Doug Steele)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:22:11 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] For Drew
In-Reply-To: <4B367B01.22083.3C79D65F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <7d60f23a0912261018u566f180eya568fff1a21db5b0@mail.gmail.com>
	<4dd71a0c0912261221k3db3fce9g531bf8f5bcf35384@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B367B01.22083.3C79D65F@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <4dd71a0c0912261522u69fef4c8qce4040cfbb41eac0@mail.gmail.com>

1. The fear that underlies the whole program.
2. The fact that they're also trying to turn the program into a neighborhood
surveillance system.
3. And they're hoping to support it with advertising.

I wonder if you get a Virtual Texas Deputy's Virtual Badge when you join up.

Doug

On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>wrote:

> What is sad about it?
>
> --
> Stuart
>
> On 26 Dec 2009 at 12:21, Doug Steele wrote:
>
> > That is so sad.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Martin <martinreid at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > http://www.blueservo.net/about.php
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From cfoust at infostatsystems.com  Mon Dec 28 10:24:43 2009
From: cfoust at infostatsystems.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:24:43 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas
In-Reply-To: <6DC4725FDCDD72428D6114F1B6CC6E8101688D1D@EXUAU020HWT110.oceania.corp.anz.com>
References: <4dd71a0c0912230759v6ed9a559sf35cd0df442ed548@mail.gmail.com>
	<6DC4725FDCDD72428D6114F1B6CC6E8101688D1D@EXUAU020HWT110.oceania.corp.anz.com>
Message-ID: <AA01CCF72D3E4246A8AF6ECCE4E013A91E34401EA1@34093-MBX-C14.mex07a.mlsrvr.com>

I just got back from a train trip and I enjoy the train, even when it's an all night and half the next day trip.  Of course I'm not sure reserved coach is "proper" train travel or that such a thing even exists in the USA any more.

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Collins, Darryl
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas


Another great thing about proper train travel is you usually get on and
off right in the city itself, not dumped 150+ kms from anywhere in a
darn paddock with a 2 hour wait to check on and off whist the folks in
the rubber gloves checking you out for explosives.  The glamour age of
air travel is long dead.

Train travel is the future, not the past IMHO...  Sadly in Australia our
various Governments don't see it that way. Yet...

Cheers
Darryl.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Steele
Sent: Thursday, 24 December 2009 3:00 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Merry Christmas

At this time last year I was in Europe visiting my son.  Before I left,
I bought a EurRail pass.  The cheapest option was First Class for the
two of us.  I've been to Europe before, but never travelled First Class
rail.  What an eye opener!  Just about the best travelling I've ever
done - comfortable, lots of room, food, drink, newspapers, extra
friendly staff.  A huge contrast from flying, and nearly as fast.  On
one memorable trip on a Thales
(French) train, they even had free wi-fi.  I was able to log in to
Google Earth on my iPhone and watch the countryside ripping past us on
my screen at about 200kph, while simultaneously watching it through the
window.  A geek's delight.

Doug

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 3:21 AM, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> At this time where you can count the hours till you _have_ to leave 
> your keyboard I wish all my fellow listers a Merry Christmas.
>
> As a small Christmas present - free to use and distribute - I bring 
> you this link to an extraordinary docu video of a size that will make 
> your download wire glow.
> It shows the full travel from Bergen to Oslo, the second largest city 
> and the capital of Norway, by rail via "Bergensbanen", a route which 
> had its 100 years anniversary Nov. 27th this year.
>
> With its length of 526,64 km typically more than 1000 m above the sea 
> through the mountains via 182 tunnels, it is rated as one of the ten 
> most spectacular railroads in the World by Chicago Tribune in 2005 and

> lasts for more than 7 hours. The scenes from Hoth in Star Wars Episode

> V, The Empire Strikes Back, were filmed at Finse, a small town along
the route.
>
> The tour was recorded in HD TV and broadcast with some interviews in 
> between by the Norwegian public service TV, NRK, and attracted 1.2
mio.
> viewers.
> The download, however, is the clean view as seen from the engine. At a

> whopping size of 165 GB it is too much for most people, so a 
> scaled-down version at 1280 x 720 is offered at "only" 22 GB:
>
>  http://nrkbeta.no/2009/12/18/bergensbanen-eng/
>
> So if you miss a present for the railroad-nerd of your family, get a 
> USB disk and start downloading now!
>
> Of course, nothing is like the real travel. I took the ride with my 
> wife Rita some years ago - we both love railroads - and can highly
recommend it.
>
> /gustav
>
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Dec 29 10:27:10 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:27:10 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Hub problem
Message-ID: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>

Dear List:

I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports.  Problem is that
I need five ports.  I had an old hub in the cabinet so I connected one of
the router's ports to the hub.  One of the ports on the hub goes to a
Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives another computer and the HDTV
access to the network and the net through two other XE102s.  Everything
works a treat.

But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45 cable) to
an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network but not the
internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is connected to
'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says that the IP address is
invalid - which it is - looks like some kind of fixed IP instead of the
192.168.1.n number assigned by the router (?).

Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why. And years
ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think the hub is good
(the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) and the cables are good -
I tested them by using the router's ports - and it worked.

Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the empty
ports on the hub?  Should I get a switch?

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 

 


From dw-murphy at cox.net  Tue Dec 29 10:36:29 2009
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 08:36:29 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <323831E1252A4802AAFCA53DAA27A135@murphy3234aaf1>

Hi Rocky,

This is vaguely familiar. We gave an old lap top to our kids and it wouldn't
recognize their router ip. If you look this up on Google the fix is to
manually assign the IP in Windows control panel. There are instructions on
how to do it. May not be your problem but sounds similar.

Doug 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:27 AM
To: List; 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Hub problem

Dear List:

I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports.  Problem is that
I need five ports.  I had an old hub in the cabinet so I connected one of
the router's ports to the hub.  One of the ports on the hub goes to a
Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives another computer and the HDTV
access to the network and the net through two other XE102s.  Everything
works a treat.

But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45 cable) to
an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network but not the
internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is connected to
'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says that the IP address is
invalid - which it is - looks like some kind of fixed IP instead of the
192.168.1.n number assigned by the router (?).

Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why. And years
ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think the hub is good
(the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) and the cables are good -
I tested them by using the router's ports - and it worked.

Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the empty
ports on the hub?  Should I get a switch?

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 

 




From krosenstiel at comcast.net  Tue Dec 29 10:48:50 2009
From: krosenstiel at comcast.net (krosenstiel at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:48:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [AccessD] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <1193996676.5572511262105309939.JavaMail.root@sz0037a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1189440074.5572711262105330821.JavaMail.root@sz0037a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Is it a clash between a static IP that has to be manually assigned and dynamic IP addresses assigned by the router? 

Karen Rosenstiel 
Seattle WA USA 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Murphy" <dw-murphy at cox.net> 
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:36:29 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Hub problem 

Hi Rocky, 

This is vaguely familiar. We gave an old lap top to our kids and it wouldn't 
recognize their router ip. If you look this up on Google the fix is to 
manually assign the IP in Windows control panel. There are instructions on 
how to do it. May not be your problem but sounds similar. 

Doug 

-----Original Message----- 
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin 
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:27 AM 
To: List; 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' 
Subject: [AccessD] Hub problem 

Dear List: 

I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports. Problem is that 
I need five ports. I had an old hub in the cabinet so I connected one of 
the router's ports to the hub. One of the ports on the hub goes to a 
Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives another computer and the HDTV 
access to the network and the net through two other XE102s. Everything 
works a treat. 

But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45 cable) to 
an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network but not the 
internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is connected to 
'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says that the IP address is 
invalid - which it is - looks like some kind of fixed IP instead of the 
192.168.1.n number assigned by the router (?). 

Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why. And years 
ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think the hub is good 
(the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) and the cables are good - 
I tested them by using the router's ports - and it worked. 

Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the empty 
ports on the hub? Should I get a switch? 



MTIA 



Rocky 






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From jedi at charm.net  Tue Dec 29 11:10:13 2009
From: jedi at charm.net (Michael Bahr)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:10:13 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <1231.24.35.25.42.1262106613.squirrel@mail.expedient.net>

Hi Rocky, forget the hub--it is old technology.  You would be far better
to use buy a switch.  I have the same setup as you; only 4 wired on the
router but needed more so I got a Linksys switch from Newegg--see below. 
A hub will allow ALL traffic to anything connected to the hub, which can
cause performance issues, where a switch will direct traffic to the
particular device by analyzing the ip adress.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124005

Mike...

> Dear List:
>
> I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports.  Problem is
> that
> I need five ports.  I had an old hub in the cabinet so I connected one of
> the router's ports to the hub.  One of the ports on the hub goes to a
> Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives another computer and the
> HDTV
> access to the network and the net through two other XE102s.  Everything
> works a treat.
>
> But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45 cable)
> to
> an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network but not the
> internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is connected to
> 'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says that the IP address
> is
> invalid - which it is - looks like some kind of fixed IP instead of the
> 192.168.1.n number assigned by the router (?).
>
> Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why. And
> years
> ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think the hub is good
> (the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) and the cables are good
> -
> I tested them by using the router's ports - and it worked.
>
> Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the empty
> ports on the hub?  Should I get a switch?
>
>
>
> MTIA
>
>
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
>
>
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From garykjos at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 11:24:44 2009
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:24:44 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950912290924n33423a65k4c96af56f13bb25d@mail.gmail.com>

I have essentially the same thing going on. "Recenttly" (3 years ago)
I swapped out the hub for a switch to take advantage of gigabyte
boards in some of my systems. On my router only port 1 is setup to
have a hub or switch set up on it. You might check your router
documentation. That cable then goes into the UPLOAD port on the switch
or hub. All ports may not be equal when it comes to connecting
additional hubs and or switches.

GK

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:
> Dear List:
>
> I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports. ?Problem is that
> I need five ports. ?I had an old hub in the cabinet so I connected one of
> the router's ports to the hub. ?One of the ports on the hub goes to a
> Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives another computer and the HDTV
> access to the network and the net through two other XE102s. ?Everything
> works a treat.
>
> But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45 cable) to
> an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network but not the
> internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is connected to
> 'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says that the IP address is
> invalid - which it is - looks like some kind of fixed IP instead of the
> 192.168.1.n number assigned by the router (?).
>
> Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why. And years
> ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think the hub is good
> (the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) and the cables are good -
> I tested them by using the router's ports - and it worked.
>
> Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the empty
> ports on the hub? ?Should I get a switch?
>
>
>
> MTIA
>
>
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Dec 29 12:31:04 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:31:04 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <1231.24.35.25.42.1262106613.squirrel@mail.expedient.net>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>
	<1231.24.35.25.42.1262106613.squirrel@mail.expedient.net>
Message-ID: <C2E7A25BFCA74D558E802EF43B742370@HAL9005>

I was thinking about that - I think you're right.  I've got a Fry's shopping
list in hand.  I'll add a switch.

Tks

R 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael Bahr
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 9:10 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Hub problem

Hi Rocky, forget the hub--it is old technology.  You would be far better to
use buy a switch.  I have the same setup as you; only 4 wired on the router
but needed more so I got a Linksys switch from Newegg--see below. 
A hub will allow ALL traffic to anything connected to the hub, which can
cause performance issues, where a switch will direct traffic to the
particular device by analyzing the ip adress.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124005

Mike...

> Dear List:
>
> I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports.  Problem 
> is that I need five ports.  I had an old hub in the cabinet so I 
> connected one of the router's ports to the hub.  One of the ports on 
> the hub goes to a Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives 
> another computer and the HDTV access to the network and the net 
> through two other XE102s.  Everything works a treat.
>
> But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45 
> cable) to an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network 
> but not the internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is 
> connected to 'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says 
> that the IP address is invalid - which it is - looks like some kind of 
> fixed IP instead of the 192.168.1.n number assigned by the router (?).
>
> Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why. And 
> years ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think the hub 
> is good (the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) and the 
> cables are good
> -
> I tested them by using the router's ports - and it worked.
>
> Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the 
> empty ports on the hub?  Should I get a switch?
>
>
>
> MTIA
>
>
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
>
>
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Dec 29 12:33:01 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:33:01 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950912290924n33423a65k4c96af56f13bb25d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>
	<aea6c4950912290924n33423a65k4c96af56f13bb25d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <69D522B1FCC9401583623E5D865A532E@HAL9005>

Router is a netgear WPN824 V2 Rangemax.  I don't think there's any
difference among the ports.

R

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 9:25 AM
To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
Cc: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem

I have essentially the same thing going on. "Recenttly" (3 years ago) I
swapped out the hub for a switch to take advantage of gigabyte boards in
some of my systems. On my router only port 1 is setup to have a hub or
switch set up on it. You might check your router documentation. That cable
then goes into the UPLOAD port on the switch or hub. All ports may not be
equal when it comes to connecting additional hubs and or switches.

GK

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
wrote:
> Dear List:
>
> I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports. ?Problem 
> is that I need five ports. ?I had an old hub in the cabinet so I 
> connected one of the router's ports to the hub. ?One of the ports on 
> the hub goes to a Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives 
> another computer and the HDTV access to the network and the net 
> through two other XE102s. ?Everything works a treat.
>
> But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45 
> cable) to an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network 
> but not the internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is 
> connected to 'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says 
> that the IP address is invalid - which it is - looks like some kind of 
> fixed IP instead of the 192.168.1.n number assigned by the router (?).
>
> Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why. And 
> years ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think the hub 
> is good (the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) and the 
> cables are good - I tested them by using the router's ports - and it
worked.
>
> Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the 
> empty ports on the hub? ?Should I get a switch?
>
>
>
> MTIA
>
>
>
> Rocky
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Dec 29 12:42:49 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:42:49 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <323831E1252A4802AAFCA53DAA27A135@murphy3234aaf1>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>
	<323831E1252A4802AAFCA53DAA27A135@murphy3234aaf1>
Message-ID: <3282EC3132FE4E4AB43CD476388DF998@HAL9005>

I think I'll try the switch option first.  Seems like the consensus.

R
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Murphy
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:36 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Hub problem

Hi Rocky,

This is vaguely familiar. We gave an old lap top to our kids and it wouldn't
recognize their router ip. If you look this up on Google the fix is to
manually assign the IP in Windows control panel. There are instructions on
how to do it. May not be your problem but sounds similar.

Doug 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:27 AM
To: List; 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Hub problem

Dear List:

I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports.  Problem is that
I need five ports.  I had an old hub in the cabinet so I connected one of
the router's ports to the hub.  One of the ports on the hub goes to a
Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives another computer and the HDTV
access to the network and the net through two other XE102s.  Everything
works a treat.

But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45 cable) to
an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network but not the
internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is connected to
'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says that the IP address is
invalid - which it is - looks like some kind of fixed IP instead of the
192.168.1.n number assigned by the router (?).

Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why. And years
ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think the hub is good
(the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) and the cables are good -
I tested them by using the router's ports - and it worked.

Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the empty
ports on the hub?  Should I get a switch?

 

MTIA

 

Rocky

 

 


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From garykjos at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 12:45:39 2009
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:45:39 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <69D522B1FCC9401583623E5D865A532E@HAL9005>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>
	<aea6c4950912290924n33423a65k4c96af56f13bb25d@mail.gmail.com>
	<69D522B1FCC9401583623E5D865A532E@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950912291045n742c0efex603aac1b1a8e0ede@mail.gmail.com>

Yes that router has Auto Sensing ports.

Quite a lot of troubleshooting info in the manual
http://kbserver.netgear.com/pdf/wpn824_ref_manual.pdf

Have you gone into the browser interface to the router and see if it
shows that system under "connected devices" or something like that?

I'm wondering if that system has and IP address hardcoaded or is not
looking to the router for it's IP address for some reason.

GK

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:
> Router is a netgear WPN824 V2 Rangemax. ?I don't think there's any
> difference among the ports.
>
> R
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 9:25 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Cc: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>
> I have essentially the same thing going on. "Recenttly" (3 years ago) I
> swapped out the hub for a switch to take advantage of gigabyte boards in
> some of my systems. On my router only port 1 is setup to have a hub or
> switch set up on it. You might check your router documentation. That cable
> then goes into the UPLOAD port on the switch or hub. All ports may not be
> equal when it comes to connecting additional hubs and or switches.
>
> GK
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> wrote:
>> Dear List:
>>
>> I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports. ?Problem
>> is that I need five ports. ?I had an old hub in the cabinet so I
>> connected one of the router's ports to the hub. ?One of the ports on
>> the hub goes to a Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives
>> another computer and the HDTV access to the network and the net
>> through two other XE102s. ?Everything works a treat.
>>
>> But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45
>> cable) to an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network
>> but not the internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is
>> connected to 'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says
>> that the IP address is invalid - which it is - looks like some kind of
>> fixed IP instead of the 192.168.1.n number assigned by the router (?).
>>
>> Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why. And
>> years ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think the hub
>> is good (the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) and the
>> cables are good - I tested them by using the router's ports - and it
> worked.
>>
>> Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the
>> empty ports on the hub? ?Should I get a switch?
>>
>>
>>
>> MTIA
>>
>>
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
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> garykjos at gmail.com
>
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From davidmcafee at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 12:49:30 2009
From: davidmcafee at gmail.com (David McAfee)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:49:30 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime
Message-ID: <8786a4c00912291049s5da82f0aq3099a1527851802b@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone know how to enable properties during runtime?

If was trying to troubleshoot a cascading combobox rowsource to see if
it is reading correctly.

I know I can check if many different ways, but I like to enable
properties and look at the data tab's rowsource field as I am clicking
on things.

It seems I can't display the combo box properties in runtime.

Does anybody know how?

David


From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Dec 29 14:01:00 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:01:00 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950912291045n742c0efex603aac1b1a8e0ede@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005><aea6c4950912290924n33423a65k4c96af56f13bb25d@mail.gmail.com><69D522B1FCC9401583623E5D865A532E@HAL9005>
	<aea6c4950912291045n742c0efex603aac1b1a8e0ede@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0BA4A52491034DA09AA29B933FFC1468@HAL9005>

Since it looks like it's the hub that's the problem, I think for the same
amount of time I could go get an inexpensive switch at Fry's and that might
solve the problem.  

R

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:46 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem

Yes that router has Auto Sensing ports.

Quite a lot of troubleshooting info in the manual
http://kbserver.netgear.com/pdf/wpn824_ref_manual.pdf

Have you gone into the browser interface to the router and see if it shows
that system under "connected devices" or something like that?

I'm wondering if that system has and IP address hardcoaded or is not looking
to the router for it's IP address for some reason.

GK

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
wrote:
> Router is a netgear WPN824 V2 Rangemax. ?I don't think there's any 
> difference among the ports.
>
> R
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 9:25 AM
> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
> Cc: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>
> I have essentially the same thing going on. "Recenttly" (3 years ago) 
> I swapped out the hub for a switch to take advantage of gigabyte 
> boards in some of my systems. On my router only port 1 is setup to 
> have a hub or switch set up on it. You might check your router 
> documentation. That cable then goes into the UPLOAD port on the switch 
> or hub. All ports may not be equal when it comes to connecting additional
hubs and or switches.
>
> GK
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Rocky Smolin 
> <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> wrote:
>> Dear List:
>>
>> I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports. ?Problem 
>> is that I need five ports. ?I had an old hub in the cabinet so I 
>> connected one of the router's ports to the hub. ?One of the ports on 
>> the hub goes to a Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives 
>> another computer and the HDTV access to the network and the net 
>> through two other XE102s. ?Everything works a treat.
>>
>> But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45
>> cable) to an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network 
>> but not the internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is 
>> connected to 'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says 
>> that the IP address is invalid - which it is - looks like some kind 
>> of fixed IP instead of the 192.168.1.n number assigned by the router (?).
>>
>> Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why. 
>> And years ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think 
>> the hub is good (the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) and 
>> the cables are good - I tested them by using the router's ports - and 
>> it
> worked.
>>
>> Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the 
>> empty ports on the hub? ?Should I get a switch?
>>
>>
>>
>> MTIA
>>
>>
>>
>> Rocky
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> dba-Tech mailing list
>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Gary Kjos
> garykjos at gmail.com
>
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From garykjos at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 14:11:53 2009
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:11:53 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <0BA4A52491034DA09AA29B933FFC1468@HAL9005>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>
	<aea6c4950912290924n33423a65k4c96af56f13bb25d@mail.gmail.com>
	<69D522B1FCC9401583623E5D865A532E@HAL9005>
	<aea6c4950912291045n742c0efex603aac1b1a8e0ede@mail.gmail.com>
	<0BA4A52491034DA09AA29B933FFC1468@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950912291211g4ecc47aam582212a8e27d7468@mail.gmail.com>

OK, but before you spend any money..... Think about your purchase.

The switch on your router probably runs at 10 or 100 bits per second.
Or maybe BYTES Per Second?

At least some of your wired systems probably have 1,000 bps network
connections. Instead of getting the cheapest switch you can find, you
should think about getting a little LARGER one that also is 1,000
(gigabit) capable and then moving the other gear to that switch
instead of connecting them to the router. It will only matter for
computer to computer connections where both are at gigabit spead. In
my case I have a Windows Home Server that has a gigabit connection and
so I want all my other gigabit capable systems on that switch to take
advantage. I bought an 8 port gigabit switch. I think it cost about
$100. The slower stuff can go on either the routers switch or the new
switch but all the fast stuff should go on the gigabit switch.

John Colby turned me on to this concept.

GK

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:
> Since it looks like it's the hub that's the problem, I think for the same
> amount of time I could go get an inexpensive switch at Fry's and that might
> solve the problem.
>
> R
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:46 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>
> Yes that router has Auto Sensing ports.
>
> Quite a lot of troubleshooting info in the manual
> http://kbserver.netgear.com/pdf/wpn824_ref_manual.pdf
>
> Have you gone into the browser interface to the router and see if it shows
> that system under "connected devices" or something like that?
>
> I'm wondering if that system has and IP address hardcoaded or is not looking
> to the router for it's IP address for some reason.
>
> GK
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> wrote:
>> Router is a netgear WPN824 V2 Rangemax. ?I don't think there's any
>> difference among the ports.
>>
>> R
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 9:25 AM
>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>> Cc: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>>
>> I have essentially the same thing going on. "Recenttly" (3 years ago)
>> I swapped out the hub for a switch to take advantage of gigabyte
>> boards in some of my systems. On my router only port 1 is setup to
>> have a hub or switch set up on it. You might check your router
>> documentation. That cable then goes into the UPLOAD port on the switch
>> or hub. All ports may not be equal when it comes to connecting additional
> hubs and or switches.
>>
>> GK
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Rocky Smolin
>> <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Dear List:
>>>
>>> I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports. ?Problem
>>> is that I need five ports. ?I had an old hub in the cabinet so I
>>> connected one of the router's ports to the hub. ?One of the ports on
>>> the hub goes to a Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives
>>> another computer and the HDTV access to the network and the net
>>> through two other XE102s. ?Everything works a treat.
>>>
>>> But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45
>>> cable) to an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network
>>> but not the internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is
>>> connected to 'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says
>>> that the IP address is invalid - which it is - looks like some kind
>>> of fixed IP instead of the 192.168.1.n number assigned by the router (?).
>>>
>>> Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why.
>>> And years ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think
>>> the hub is good (the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) and
>>> the cables are good - I tested them by using the router's ports - and
>>> it
>> worked.
>>>
>>> Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the
>>> empty ports on the hub? ?Should I get a switch?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> MTIA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> dba-Tech mailing list
>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> garykjos at gmail.com
>>
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From miscellany at mvps.org  Tue Dec 29 14:13:44 2009
From: miscellany at mvps.org (Steve Schapel)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:13:44 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime
In-Reply-To: <8786a4c00912291049s5da82f0aq3099a1527851802b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8786a4c00912291049s5da82f0aq3099a1527851802b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B1B8C10393DA436AA9B4167EADD2A9D5@stevePC>

I am not 100% certain, David, as I have never tried it.  But I would be very 
surprised to learn that the Property sheet was available in runtime - I 
don't think it's possible.

Do you mean that your cascading comboboxes are behaving differently in 
Runtime than they are in full version?

Regards
Steve


--------------------------------------------------
From: "David McAfee" <davidmcafee at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:49 AM
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime

> Does anyone know how to enable properties during runtime?
>
> If was trying to troubleshoot a cascading combobox rowsource to see if
> it is reading correctly.
>
> I know I can check if many different ways, but I like to enable
> properties and look at the data tab's rowsource field as I am clicking
> on things.
>
> It seems I can't display the combo box properties in runtime.
>
> Does anybody know how?
>
 



From Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com  Tue Dec 29 14:27:37 2009
From: Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:27:37 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime
In-Reply-To: <8786a4c00912291049s5da82f0aq3099a1527851802b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8786a4c00912291049s5da82f0aq3099a1527851802b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E7E0D0DA9@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>

If you mean showing the properties sheet *AT* runtime, in a full MS Access installation then all you need is...

    Combo3.SetFocus
    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdProperties

But if you are talking about displaying the properties sheet while running an application in the runtime environment (i.e. MS Access not installed) then I don't know how to do that.

Lambert
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David McAfee
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:50 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime

Does anyone know how to enable properties during runtime?

If was trying to troubleshoot a cascading combobox rowsource to see if it is reading correctly.

I know I can check if many different ways, but I like to enable properties and look at the data tab's rowsource field as I am clicking on things.

It seems I can't display the combo box properties in runtime.

Does anybody know how?

David
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Dec 29 14:48:04 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:48:04 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950912291211g4ecc47aam582212a8e27d7468@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005><aea6c4950912290924n33423a65k4c96af56f13bb25d@mail.gmail.com><69D522B1FCC9401583623E5D865A532E@HAL9005><aea6c4950912291045n742c0efex603aac1b1a8e0ede@mail.gmail.com><0BA4A52491034DA09AA29B933FFC1468@HAL9005>
	<aea6c4950912291211g4ecc47aam582212a8e27d7468@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44463D90C6CF428F9E93C9066227B3D1@HAL9005>

True enough except we do very little computer to computer communication.
It's all internet.  And there, I think the constraint is the servers, not
the pipe to my house.

R 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:12 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem

OK, but before you spend any money..... Think about your purchase.

The switch on your router probably runs at 10 or 100 bits per second.
Or maybe BYTES Per Second?

At least some of your wired systems probably have 1,000 bps network
connections. Instead of getting the cheapest switch you can find, you should
think about getting a little LARGER one that also is 1,000
(gigabit) capable and then moving the other gear to that switch instead of
connecting them to the router. It will only matter for computer to computer
connections where both are at gigabit spead. In my case I have a Windows
Home Server that has a gigabit connection and so I want all my other gigabit
capable systems on that switch to take advantage. I bought an 8 port gigabit
switch. I think it cost about $100. The slower stuff can go on either the
routers switch or the new switch but all the fast stuff should go on the
gigabit switch.

John Colby turned me on to this concept.

GK

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
wrote:
> Since it looks like it's the hub that's the problem, I think for the 
> same amount of time I could go get an inexpensive switch at Fry's and 
> that might solve the problem.
>
> R
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:46 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>
> Yes that router has Auto Sensing ports.
>
> Quite a lot of troubleshooting info in the manual 
> http://kbserver.netgear.com/pdf/wpn824_ref_manual.pdf
>
> Have you gone into the browser interface to the router and see if it 
> shows that system under "connected devices" or something like that?
>
> I'm wondering if that system has and IP address hardcoaded or is not 
> looking to the router for it's IP address for some reason.
>
> GK
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Rocky Smolin 
> <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> wrote:
>> Router is a netgear WPN824 V2 Rangemax. ?I don't think there's any 
>> difference among the ports.
>>
>> R
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 9:25 AM
>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>> Cc: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>>
>> I have essentially the same thing going on. "Recenttly" (3 years ago) 
>> I swapped out the hub for a switch to take advantage of gigabyte 
>> boards in some of my systems. On my router only port 1 is setup to 
>> have a hub or switch set up on it. You might check your router 
>> documentation. That cable then goes into the UPLOAD port on the 
>> switch or hub. All ports may not be equal when it comes to connecting 
>> additional
> hubs and or switches.
>>
>> GK
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Rocky Smolin 
>> <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Dear List:
>>>
>>> I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports. ?Problem 
>>> is that I need five ports. ?I had an old hub in the cabinet so I 
>>> connected one of the router's ports to the hub. ?One of the ports on 
>>> the hub goes to a Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives 
>>> another computer and the HDTV access to the network and the net 
>>> through two other XE102s. ?Everything works a treat.
>>>
>>> But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45
>>> cable) to an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network 
>>> but not the internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is 
>>> connected to 'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says 
>>> that the IP address is invalid - which it is - looks like some kind 
>>> of fixed IP instead of the 192.168.1.n number assigned by the router
(?).
>>>
>>> Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why.
>>> And years ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think 
>>> the hub is good (the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) 
>>> and the cables are good - I tested them by using the router's ports 
>>> - and it
>> worked.
>>>
>>> Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the 
>>> empty ports on the hub? ?Should I get a switch?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> MTIA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rocky
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> dba-Tech mailing list
>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> garykjos at gmail.com
>>
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From davidmcafee at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 15:06:58 2009
From: davidmcafee at gmail.com (David McAfee)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:06:58 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime
In-Reply-To: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E7E0D0DA9@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
References: <8786a4c00912291049s5da82f0aq3099a1527851802b@mail.gmail.com>
	<B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E7E0D0DA9@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
Message-ID: <8786a4c00912291306j1bf112fexfedb6c334565e77e@mail.gmail.com>

Im just talking about displaying them on my new box when
troubleshooting a combo/list box.

In prior versions, you could display the properties for a control in
design view then when you switch to form view it would still be
visible, not so in A2007.

DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdProperties gives an error in A2007:

Runtime error '2046'
The command or action 'Properties' isn't available now.

:/



On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Heenan, Lambert
<Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com> wrote:
> If you mean showing the properties sheet *AT* runtime, in a full MS Access installation then all you need is...
>
> ? ?Combo3.SetFocus
> ? ?DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdProperties
>
> But if you are talking about displaying the properties sheet while running an application in the runtime environment (i.e. MS Access not installed) then I don't know how to do that.
>
> Lambert
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David McAfee
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:50 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime
>
> Does anyone know how to enable properties during runtime?
>
> If was trying to troubleshoot a cascading combobox rowsource to see if it is reading correctly.
>
> I know I can check if many different ways, but I like to enable properties and look at the data tab's rowsource field as I am clicking on things.
>
> It seems I can't display the combo box properties in runtime.
>
> Does anybody know how?
>
> David
> --
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
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From garykjos at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 15:08:08 2009
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:08:08 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <44463D90C6CF428F9E93C9066227B3D1@HAL9005>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>
	<aea6c4950912290924n33423a65k4c96af56f13bb25d@mail.gmail.com>
	<69D522B1FCC9401583623E5D865A532E@HAL9005>
	<aea6c4950912291045n742c0efex603aac1b1a8e0ede@mail.gmail.com>
	<0BA4A52491034DA09AA29B933FFC1468@HAL9005>
	<aea6c4950912291211g4ecc47aam582212a8e27d7468@mail.gmail.com>
	<44463D90C6CF428F9E93C9066227B3D1@HAL9005>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950912291308k15fa1f1t2d8f6f2f3f202dbe@mail.gmail.com>

You NEED a Windows Home Server to back up all those machines. Pay no
attention that mine is still giving me grief. The concept is sound.
Once you start streaming HD video that 100 mb switch ain't going to
cut it. Don't buy anything less than Gigabit now. Mark my words. Gary
Kjos, December 29, 2009, 3:07pm CST  ;-)

GK

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:
> True enough except we do very little computer to computer communication.
> It's all internet. ?And there, I think the constraint is the servers, not
> the pipe to my house.
>
> R
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:12 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>
> OK, but before you spend any money..... Think about your purchase.
>
> The switch on your router probably runs at 10 or 100 bits per second.
> Or maybe BYTES Per Second?
>
> At least some of your wired systems probably have 1,000 bps network
> connections. Instead of getting the cheapest switch you can find, you should
> think about getting a little LARGER one that also is 1,000
> (gigabit) capable and then moving the other gear to that switch instead of
> connecting them to the router. It will only matter for computer to computer
> connections where both are at gigabit spead. In my case I have a Windows
> Home Server that has a gigabit connection and so I want all my other gigabit
> capable systems on that switch to take advantage. I bought an 8 port gigabit
> switch. I think it cost about $100. The slower stuff can go on either the
> routers switch or the new switch but all the fast stuff should go on the
> gigabit switch.
>
> John Colby turned me on to this concept.
>
> GK
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> wrote:
>> Since it looks like it's the hub that's the problem, I think for the
>> same amount of time I could go get an inexpensive switch at Fry's and
>> that might solve the problem.
>>
>> R
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:46 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>>
>> Yes that router has Auto Sensing ports.
>>
>> Quite a lot of troubleshooting info in the manual
>> http://kbserver.netgear.com/pdf/wpn824_ref_manual.pdf
>>
>> Have you gone into the browser interface to the router and see if it
>> shows that system under "connected devices" or something like that?
>>
>> I'm wondering if that system has and IP address hardcoaded or is not
>> looking to the router for it's IP address for some reason.
>>
>> GK
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Rocky Smolin
>> <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Router is a netgear WPN824 V2 Rangemax. ?I don't think there's any
>>> difference among the ports.
>>>
>>> R
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 9:25 AM
>>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>> Cc: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>>>
>>> I have essentially the same thing going on. "Recenttly" (3 years ago)
>>> I swapped out the hub for a switch to take advantage of gigabyte
>>> boards in some of my systems. On my router only port 1 is setup to
>>> have a hub or switch set up on it. You might check your router
>>> documentation. That cable then goes into the UPLOAD port on the
>>> switch or hub. All ports may not be equal when it comes to connecting
>>> additional
>> hubs and or switches.
>>>
>>> GK
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Rocky Smolin
>>> <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Dear List:
>>>>
>>>> I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports. ?Problem
>>>> is that I need five ports. ?I had an old hub in the cabinet so I
>>>> connected one of the router's ports to the hub. ?One of the ports on
>>>> the hub goes to a Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives
>>>> another computer and the HDTV access to the network and the net
>>>> through two other XE102s. ?Everything works a treat.
>>>>
>>>> But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45
>>>> cable) to an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network
>>>> but not the internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is
>>>> connected to 'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says
>>>> that the IP address is invalid - which it is - looks like some kind
>>>> of fixed IP instead of the 192.168.1.n number assigned by the router
> (?).
>>>>
>>>> Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why.
>>>> And years ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think
>>>> the hub is good (the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports)
>>>> and the cables are good - I tested them by using the router's ports
>>>> - and it
>>> worked.
>>>>
>>>> Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the
>>>> empty ports on the hub? ?Should I get a switch?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> MTIA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rocky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> dba-Tech mailing list
>>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary Kjos
>>> garykjos at gmail.com
>>>
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>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> garykjos at gmail.com
>>
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>>
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>>
>
>
>
> --
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> garykjos at gmail.com
>
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>
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>



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From garykjos at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 15:17:40 2009
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:17:40 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950912291308k15fa1f1t2d8f6f2f3f202dbe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>
	<aea6c4950912290924n33423a65k4c96af56f13bb25d@mail.gmail.com>
	<69D522B1FCC9401583623E5D865A532E@HAL9005>
	<aea6c4950912291045n742c0efex603aac1b1a8e0ede@mail.gmail.com>
	<0BA4A52491034DA09AA29B933FFC1468@HAL9005>
	<aea6c4950912291211g4ecc47aam582212a8e27d7468@mail.gmail.com>
	<44463D90C6CF428F9E93C9066227B3D1@HAL9005>
	<aea6c4950912291308k15fa1f1t2d8f6f2f3f202dbe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950912291317i3fd3a02ctcf2f3f76dbd8aef2@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.frys.com/product/4818280

$59.99 8 port Gigabit Switch. from D-Link

GK

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:
> You NEED a Windows Home Server to back up all those machines. Pay no
> attention that mine is still giving me grief. The concept is sound.
> Once you start streaming HD video that 100 mb switch ain't going to
> cut it. Don't buy anything less than Gigabit now. Mark my words. Gary
> Kjos, December 29, 2009, 3:07pm CST ?;-)
>
> GK
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:
>> True enough except we do very little computer to computer communication.
>> It's all internet. ?And there, I think the constraint is the servers, not
>> the pipe to my house.
>>
>> R
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:12 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>>
>> OK, but before you spend any money..... Think about your purchase.
>>
>> The switch on your router probably runs at 10 or 100 bits per second.
>> Or maybe BYTES Per Second?
>>
>> At least some of your wired systems probably have 1,000 bps network
>> connections. Instead of getting the cheapest switch you can find, you should
>> think about getting a little LARGER one that also is 1,000
>> (gigabit) capable and then moving the other gear to that switch instead of
>> connecting them to the router. It will only matter for computer to computer
>> connections where both are at gigabit spead. In my case I have a Windows
>> Home Server that has a gigabit connection and so I want all my other gigabit
>> capable systems on that switch to take advantage. I bought an 8 port gigabit
>> switch. I think it cost about $100. The slower stuff can go on either the
>> routers switch or the new switch but all the fast stuff should go on the
>> gigabit switch.
>>
>> John Colby turned me on to this concept.
>>
>> GK
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Since it looks like it's the hub that's the problem, I think for the
>>> same amount of time I could go get an inexpensive switch at Fry's and
>>> that might solve the problem.
>>>
>>> R
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:46 AM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>>>
>>> Yes that router has Auto Sensing ports.
>>>
>>> Quite a lot of troubleshooting info in the manual
>>> http://kbserver.netgear.com/pdf/wpn824_ref_manual.pdf
>>>
>>> Have you gone into the browser interface to the router and see if it
>>> shows that system under "connected devices" or something like that?
>>>
>>> I'm wondering if that system has and IP address hardcoaded or is not
>>> looking to the router for it's IP address for some reason.
>>>
>>> GK
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Rocky Smolin
>>> <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Router is a netgear WPN824 V2 Rangemax. ?I don't think there's any
>>>> difference among the ports.
>>>>
>>>> R
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 9:25 AM
>>>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>>> Cc: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>>>>
>>>> I have essentially the same thing going on. "Recenttly" (3 years ago)
>>>> I swapped out the hub for a switch to take advantage of gigabyte
>>>> boards in some of my systems. On my router only port 1 is setup to
>>>> have a hub or switch set up on it. You might check your router
>>>> documentation. That cable then goes into the UPLOAD port on the
>>>> switch or hub. All ports may not be equal when it comes to connecting
>>>> additional
>>> hubs and or switches.
>>>>
>>>> GK
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Rocky Smolin
>>>> <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Dear List:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports. ?Problem
>>>>> is that I need five ports. ?I had an old hub in the cabinet so I
>>>>> connected one of the router's ports to the hub. ?One of the ports on
>>>>> the hub goes to a Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives
>>>>> another computer and the HDTV access to the network and the net
>>>>> through two other XE102s. ?Everything works a treat.
>>>>>
>>>>> But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45
>>>>> cable) to an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network
>>>>> but not the internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is
>>>>> connected to 'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says
>>>>> that the IP address is invalid - which it is - looks like some kind
>>>>> of fixed IP instead of the 192.168.1.n number assigned by the router
>> (?).
>>>>>
>>>>> Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why.
>>>>> And years ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think
>>>>> the hub is good (the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports)
>>>>> and the cables are good - I tested them by using the router's ports
>>>>> - and it
>>>> worked.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the
>>>>> empty ports on the hub? ?Should I get a switch?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> MTIA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> dba-Tech mailing list
>>>>> dba-Tech at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gary Kjos
>>>> garykjos at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary Kjos
>>> garykjos at gmail.com
>>>
>>> --
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>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> garykjos at gmail.com
>>
>> --
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>>
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>>
>
>
>
> --
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> garykjos at gmail.com
>



-- 
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From Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com  Tue Dec 29 15:23:01 2009
From: Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:23:01 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime
In-Reply-To: <8786a4c00912291306j1bf112fexfedb6c334565e77e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8786a4c00912291049s5da82f0aq3099a1527851802b@mail.gmail.com>
	<B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E7E0D0DA9@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
	<8786a4c00912291306j1bf112fexfedb6c334565e77e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E7E0D0DD4@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>

Ah... 2007... Not there yet.

It sounds like good old M$ has 'fixed' a problem with Access 2002/2003, where the properties sheet would be visible when not wanted and you had to remember to set the objects 'Allow Design Changed' property to "Design View Only" before releasing an app. to the wild (the pointless default being "All Views"). 

And they 'fixed' it so well you have lost functionality. Looks like you will have to roll your own solution: say a pop-up form that displays the information you want, or a bunch of Debug.Print statements.

Lambert ;-(


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David McAfee
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:07 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime

Im just talking about displaying them on my new box when troubleshooting a combo/list box.

In prior versions, you could display the properties for a control in design view then when you switch to form view it would still be visible, not so in A2007.

DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdProperties gives an error in A2007:

Runtime error '2046'
The command or action 'Properties' isn't available now.

:/



On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Heenan, Lambert <Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com> wrote:
> If you mean showing the properties sheet *AT* runtime, in a full MS Access installation then all you need is...
>
> ? ?Combo3.SetFocus
> ? ?DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdProperties
>
> But if you are talking about displaying the properties sheet while running an application in the runtime environment (i.e. MS Access not installed) then I don't know how to do that.
>
> Lambert
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David 
> McAfee
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:50 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime
>
> Does anyone know how to enable properties during runtime?
>
> If was trying to troubleshoot a cascading combobox rowsource to see if it is reading correctly.
>
> I know I can check if many different ways, but I like to enable properties and look at the data tab's rowsource field as I am clicking on things.
>
> It seems I can't display the combo box properties in runtime.
>
> Does anybody know how?
>
> David
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From Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com  Tue Dec 29 15:24:28 2009
From: Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:24:28 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950912291317i3fd3a02ctcf2f3f76dbd8aef2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>
	<aea6c4950912290924n33423a65k4c96af56f13bb25d@mail.gmail.com>
	<69D522B1FCC9401583623E5D865A532E@HAL9005>
	<aea6c4950912291045n742c0efex603aac1b1a8e0ede@mail.gmail.com>
	<0BA4A52491034DA09AA29B933FFC1468@HAL9005>
	<aea6c4950912291211g4ecc47aam582212a8e27d7468@mail.gmail.com>
	<44463D90C6CF428F9E93C9066227B3D1@HAL9005>
	<aea6c4950912291308k15fa1f1t2d8f6f2f3f202dbe@mail.gmail.com>
	<aea6c4950912291317i3fd3a02ctcf2f3f76dbd8aef2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E7E0D0DD5@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>

Or the same item from NewEgg at $45.99...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127082

Lambert 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem

http://www.frys.com/product/4818280

$59.99 8 port Gigabit Switch. from D-Link

GK

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:
> You NEED a Windows Home Server to back up all those machines. Pay no 
> attention that mine is still giving me grief. The concept is sound.
> Once you start streaming HD video that 100 mb switch ain't going to 
> cut it. Don't buy anything less than Gigabit now. Mark my words. Gary 
> Kjos, December 29, 2009, 3:07pm CST ?;-)
>
> GK
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:
>> True enough except we do very little computer to computer communication.
>> It's all internet. ?And there, I think the constraint is the servers, 
>> not the pipe to my house.
>>
>> R
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:12 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>>
>> OK, but before you spend any money..... Think about your purchase.
>>
>> The switch on your router probably runs at 10 or 100 bits per second.
>> Or maybe BYTES Per Second?
>>
>> At least some of your wired systems probably have 1,000 bps network 
>> connections. Instead of getting the cheapest switch you can find, you 
>> should think about getting a little LARGER one that also is 1,000
>> (gigabit) capable and then moving the other gear to that switch 
>> instead of connecting them to the router. It will only matter for 
>> computer to computer connections where both are at gigabit spead. In 
>> my case I have a Windows Home Server that has a gigabit connection 
>> and so I want all my other gigabit capable systems on that switch to 
>> take advantage. I bought an 8 port gigabit switch. I think it cost 
>> about $100. The slower stuff can go on either the routers switch or 
>> the new switch but all the fast stuff should go on the gigabit switch.
>>
>> John Colby turned me on to this concept.
>>
>> GK
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Rocky Smolin 
>> <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Since it looks like it's the hub that's the problem, I think for the 
>>> same amount of time I could go get an inexpensive switch at Fry's 
>>> and that might solve the problem.
>>>
>>> R
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:46 AM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>>>
>>> Yes that router has Auto Sensing ports.
>>>
>>> Quite a lot of troubleshooting info in the manual 
>>> http://kbserver.netgear.com/pdf/wpn824_ref_manual.pdf
>>>
>>> Have you gone into the browser interface to the router and see if it 
>>> shows that system under "connected devices" or something like that?
>>>
>>> I'm wondering if that system has and IP address hardcoaded or is not 
>>> looking to the router for it's IP address for some reason.
>>>
>>> GK
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Rocky Smolin 
>>> <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Router is a netgear WPN824 V2 Rangemax. ?I don't think there's any 
>>>> difference among the ports.
>>>>
>>>> R
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary 
>>>> Kjos
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 9:25 AM
>>>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>>> Cc: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>>>>
>>>> I have essentially the same thing going on. "Recenttly" (3 years 
>>>> ago) I swapped out the hub for a switch to take advantage of 
>>>> gigabyte boards in some of my systems. On my router only port 1 is 
>>>> setup to have a hub or switch set up on it. You might check your 
>>>> router documentation. That cable then goes into the UPLOAD port on 
>>>> the switch or hub. All ports may not be equal when it comes to 
>>>> connecting additional
>>> hubs and or switches.
>>>>
>>>> GK
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Rocky Smolin 
>>>> <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Dear List:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports. ?
>>>>> Problem is that I need five ports. ?I had an old hub in the 
>>>>> cabinet so I connected one of the router's ports to the hub. ?One 
>>>>> of the ports on the hub goes to a Netgear XE102 wall plugged 
>>>>> bridge which gives another computer and the HDTV access to the 
>>>>> network and the net through two other XE102s. ?Everything works a treat.
>>>>>
>>>>> But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45
>>>>> cable) to an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the 
>>>>> network but not the internet - windows diagnosis shows the 
>>>>> computer is connected to 'unidentified network', 'local access 
>>>>> only', and says that the IP address is invalid - which it is - 
>>>>> looks like some kind of fixed IP instead of the 192.168.1.n number 
>>>>> assigned by the router
>> (?).
>>>>>
>>>>> Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why.
>>>>> And years ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think 
>>>>> the hub is good (the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) 
>>>>> and the cables are good - I tested them by using the router's 
>>>>> ports
>>>>> - and it
>>>> worked.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the 
>>>>> empty ports on the hub? ?Should I get a switch?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> MTIA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/dba-tech
>>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
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>>
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From davidmcafee at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 15:31:51 2009
From: davidmcafee at gmail.com (David McAfee)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:31:51 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime
In-Reply-To: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E7E0D0DD4@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
References: <8786a4c00912291049s5da82f0aq3099a1527851802b@mail.gmail.com>
	<B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E7E0D0DA9@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
	<8786a4c00912291306j1bf112fexfedb6c334565e77e@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <8786a4c00912291331y32269914xc8d6045cd8174e6@mail.gmail.com>

I used to love to be able to view and adjust listbox columns with the
properties at runtime.
I guess I wont be able to now that I've switched back to A2007. :(

D

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Heenan, Lambert
<Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com> wrote:
> Ah... 2007... Not there yet.
>
> It sounds like good old M$ has 'fixed' a problem with Access 2002/2003, where the properties sheet would be visible when not wanted and you had to remember to set the objects 'Allow Design Changed' property to "Design View Only" before releasing an app. to the wild (the pointless default being "All Views").
>
> And they 'fixed' it so well you have lost functionality. Looks like you will have to roll your own solution: say a pop-up form that displays the information you want, or a bunch of Debug.Print statements.
>
> Lambert ;-(
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David McAfee
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:07 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime
>
> Im just talking about displaying them on my new box when troubleshooting a combo/list box.
>
> In prior versions, you could display the properties for a control in design view then when you switch to form view it would still be visible, not so in A2007.
>
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdProperties gives an error in A2007:
>
> Runtime error '2046'
> The command or action 'Properties' isn't available now.
>
> :/
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Heenan, Lambert <Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com> wrote:
>> If you mean showing the properties sheet *AT* runtime, in a full MS Access installation then all you need is...
>>
>> ? ?Combo3.SetFocus
>> ? ?DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdProperties
>>
>> But if you are talking about displaying the properties sheet while running an application in the runtime environment (i.e. MS Access not installed) then I don't know how to do that.
>>
>> Lambert
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David
>> McAfee
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:50 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime
>>
>> Does anyone know how to enable properties during runtime?
>>
>> If was trying to troubleshoot a cascading combobox rowsource to see if it is reading correctly.
>>
>> I know I can check if many different ways, but I like to enable properties and look at the data tab's rowsource field as I am clicking on things.
>>
>> It seems I can't display the combo box properties in runtime.
>>
>> Does anybody know how?
>>
>> David



From ab-mi at post3.tele.dk  Tue Dec 29 15:47:30 2009
From: ab-mi at post3.tele.dk (Asger Blond)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:47:30 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime
In-Reply-To: <8786a4c00912291331y32269914xc8d6045cd8174e6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8786a4c00912291049s5da82f0aq3099a1527851802b@mail.gmail.com><B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E7E0D0DA9@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net><8786a4c00912291306j1bf112fexfedb6c334565e77e@mail.gmail.com><B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E7E0D0DD4@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
	<8786a4c00912291331y32269914xc8d6045cd8174e6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D26A96EEA0DA40B4B014678200029034@abpc>


David,
Access 2007 now has 3 view modes for forms: design, form, and layout view. To see the properties window during runtime use layout view.
HTH
Asger

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af David McAfee
Sendt: 29. december 2009 22:32
Til: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Emne: Re: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime

I used to love to be able to view and adjust listbox columns with the
properties at runtime.
I guess I wont be able to now that I've switched back to A2007. :(

D

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Heenan, Lambert
<Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com> wrote:
> Ah... 2007... Not there yet.
>
> It sounds like good old M$ has 'fixed' a problem with Access 2002/2003, where the properties sheet would be visible when not wanted and you had to remember to set the objects 'Allow Design Changed' property to "Design View Only" before releasing an app. to the wild (the pointless default being "All Views").
>
> And they 'fixed' it so well you have lost functionality. Looks like you will have to roll your own solution: say a pop-up form that displays the information you want, or a bunch of Debug.Print statements.
>
> Lambert ;-(
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David McAfee
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:07 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime
>
> Im just talking about displaying them on my new box when troubleshooting a combo/list box.
>
> In prior versions, you could display the properties for a control in design view then when you switch to form view it would still be visible, not so in A2007.
>
> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdProperties gives an error in A2007:
>
> Runtime error '2046'
> The command or action 'Properties' isn't available now.
>
> :/
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Heenan, Lambert <Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com> wrote:
>> If you mean showing the properties sheet *AT* runtime, in a full MS Access installation then all you need is...
>>
>>    Combo3.SetFocus
>>    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdProperties
>>
>> But if you are talking about displaying the properties sheet while running an application in the runtime environment (i.e. MS Access not installed) then I don't know how to do that.
>>
>> Lambert
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David
>> McAfee
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:50 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime
>>
>> Does anyone know how to enable properties during runtime?
>>
>> If was trying to troubleshoot a cascading combobox rowsource to see if it is reading correctly.
>>
>> I know I can check if many different ways, but I like to enable properties and look at the data tab's rowsource field as I am clicking on things.
>>
>> It seems I can't display the combo box properties in runtime.
>>
>> Does anybody know how?
>>
>> David

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From wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com  Tue Dec 29 15:53:53 2009
From: wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com (William Hindman)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:53:53 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
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...amen

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Gary Kjos" <garykjos at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:11 PM
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem

> OK, but before you spend any money..... Think about your purchase.
>
> The switch on your router probably runs at 10 or 100 bits per second.
> Or maybe BYTES Per Second?
>
> At least some of your wired systems probably have 1,000 bps network
> connections. Instead of getting the cheapest switch you can find, you
> should think about getting a little LARGER one that also is 1,000
> (gigabit) capable and then moving the other gear to that switch
> instead of connecting them to the router. It will only matter for
> computer to computer connections where both are at gigabit spead. In
> my case I have a Windows Home Server that has a gigabit connection and
> so I want all my other gigabit capable systems on that switch to take
> advantage. I bought an 8 port gigabit switch. I think it cost about
> $100. The slower stuff can go on either the routers switch or the new
> switch but all the fast stuff should go on the gigabit switch.
>
> John Colby turned me on to this concept.
>
> GK
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> 
> wrote:
>> Since it looks like it's the hub that's the problem, I think for the same
>> amount of time I could go get an inexpensive switch at Fry's and that 
>> might
>> solve the problem.
>>
>> R
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:46 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>>
>> Yes that router has Auto Sensing ports.
>>
>> Quite a lot of troubleshooting info in the manual
>> http://kbserver.netgear.com/pdf/wpn824_ref_manual.pdf
>>
>> Have you gone into the browser interface to the router and see if it 
>> shows
>> that system under "connected devices" or something like that?
>>
>> I'm wondering if that system has and IP address hardcoaded or is not 
>> looking
>> to the router for it's IP address for some reason.
>>
>> GK
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Router is a netgear WPN824 V2 Rangemax.  I don't think there's any
>>> difference among the ports.
>>>
>>> R
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 9:25 AM
>>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>> Cc: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>>>
>>> I have essentially the same thing going on. "Recenttly" (3 years ago)
>>> I swapped out the hub for a switch to take advantage of gigabyte
>>> boards in some of my systems. On my router only port 1 is setup to
>>> have a hub or switch set up on it. You might check your router
>>> documentation. That cable then goes into the UPLOAD port on the switch
>>> or hub. All ports may not be equal when it comes to connecting 
>>> additional
>> hubs and or switches.
>>>
>>> GK
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Rocky Smolin
>>> <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Dear List:
>>>>
>>>> I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports.  Problem
>>>> is that I need five ports.  I had an old hub in the cabinet so I
>>>> connected one of the router's ports to the hub.  One of the ports on
>>>> the hub goes to a Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which gives
>>>> another computer and the HDTV access to the network and the net
>>>> through two other XE102s.  Everything works a treat.
>>>>
>>>> But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45
>>>> cable) to an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the network
>>>> but not the internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer is
>>>> connected to 'unidentified network', 'local access only', and says
>>>> that the IP address is invalid - which it is - looks like some kind
>>>> of fixed IP instead of the 192.168.1.n number assigned by the router 
>>>> (?).
>>>>
>>>> Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why.
>>>> And years ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think
>>>> the hub is good (the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) and
>>>> the cables are good - I tested them by using the router's ports - and
>>>> it
>>> worked.
>>>>
>>>> Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the
>>>> empty ports on the hub?  Should I get a switch?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> MTIA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rocky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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From davidmcafee at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 15:58:25 2009
From: davidmcafee at gmail.com (David McAfee)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:58:25 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime
In-Reply-To: <D26A96EEA0DA40B4B014678200029034@abpc>
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I don't see that option from the ribbon drop down or when right
clicking  the form name from the navigation pane.

Only Design View and Form View are shown.

hmm, just tried it in an mdb and it works fine.

Wonder if the issue is that this is an ADP?

David


On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Asger Blond <ab-mi at post3.tele.dk> wrote:
>
> David,
> Access 2007 now has 3 view modes for forms: design, form, and layout view. To see the properties window during runtime use layout view.
> HTH
> Asger
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af David McAfee
> Sendt: 29. december 2009 22:32
> Til: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Emne: Re: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime
>
> I used to love to be able to view and adjust listbox columns with the
> properties at runtime.
> I guess I wont be able to now that I've switched back to A2007. :(
>
> D
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Heenan, Lambert
> <Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com> wrote:
>> Ah... 2007... Not there yet.
>>
>> It sounds like good old M$ has 'fixed' a problem with Access 2002/2003, where the properties sheet would be visible when not wanted and you had to remember to set the objects 'Allow Design Changed' property to "Design View Only" before releasing an app. to the wild (the pointless default being "All Views").
>>
>> And they 'fixed' it so well you have lost functionality. Looks like you will have to roll your own solution: say a pop-up form that displays the information you want, or a bunch of Debug.Print statements.
>>
>> Lambert ;-(
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David McAfee
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:07 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime
>>
>> Im just talking about displaying them on my new box when troubleshooting a combo/list box.
>>
>> In prior versions, you could display the properties for a control in design view then when you switch to form view it would still be visible, not so in A2007.
>>
>> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdProperties gives an error in A2007:
>>
>> Runtime error '2046'
>> The command or action 'Properties' isn't available now.
>>
>> :/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Heenan, Lambert <Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com> wrote:
>>> If you mean showing the properties sheet *AT* runtime, in a full MS Access installation then all you need is...
>>>
>>> ? ?Combo3.SetFocus
>>> ? ?DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdProperties
>>>
>>> But if you are talking about displaying the properties sheet while running an application in the runtime environment (i.e. MS Access not installed) then I don't know how to do that.
>>>
>>> Lambert
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David
>>> McAfee
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:50 PM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime
>>>
>>> Does anyone know how to enable properties during runtime?
>>>
>>> If was trying to troubleshoot a cascading combobox rowsource to see if it is reading correctly.
>>>
>>> I know I can check if many different ways, but I like to enable properties and look at the data tab's rowsource field as I am clicking on things.
>>>
>>> It seems I can't display the combo box properties in runtime.
>>>
>>> Does anybody know how?
>>>
>>> David
>
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From ab-mi at post3.tele.dk  Tue Dec 29 16:18:51 2009
From: ab-mi at post3.tele.dk (Asger Blond)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:18:51 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime
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Yes, seems layout view is missing in adp - too bad...
Asger

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af David McAfee
Sendt: 29. december 2009 22:58
Til: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Emne: Re: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime

I don't see that option from the ribbon drop down or when right
clicking  the form name from the navigation pane.

Only Design View and Form View are shown.

hmm, just tried it in an mdb and it works fine.

Wonder if the issue is that this is an ADP?

David


On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Asger Blond <ab-mi at post3.tele.dk> wrote:
>
> David,
> Access 2007 now has 3 view modes for forms: design, form, and layout view. To see the properties window during runtime use layout view.
> HTH
> Asger
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af David McAfee
> Sendt: 29. december 2009 22:32
> Til: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Emne: Re: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime
>
> I used to love to be able to view and adjust listbox columns with the
> properties at runtime.
> I guess I wont be able to now that I've switched back to A2007. :(
>
> D
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Heenan, Lambert
> <Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com> wrote:
>> Ah... 2007... Not there yet.
>>
>> It sounds like good old M$ has 'fixed' a problem with Access 2002/2003, where the properties sheet would be visible when not wanted and you had to remember to set the objects 'Allow Design Changed' property to "Design View Only" before releasing an app. to the wild (the pointless default being "All Views").
>>
>> And they 'fixed' it so well you have lost functionality. Looks like you will have to roll your own solution: say a pop-up form that displays the information you want, or a bunch of Debug.Print statements.
>>
>> Lambert ;-(
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David McAfee
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:07 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime
>>
>> Im just talking about displaying them on my new box when troubleshooting a combo/list box.
>>
>> In prior versions, you could display the properties for a control in design view then when you switch to form view it would still be visible, not so in A2007.
>>
>> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdProperties gives an error in A2007:
>>
>> Runtime error '2046'
>> The command or action 'Properties' isn't available now.
>>
>> :/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Heenan, Lambert <Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com> wrote:
>>> If you mean showing the properties sheet *AT* runtime, in a full MS Access installation then all you need is...
>>>
>>>    Combo3.SetFocus
>>>    DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdProperties
>>>
>>> But if you are talking about displaying the properties sheet while running an application in the runtime environment (i.e. MS Access not installed) then I don't know how to do that.
>>>
>>> Lambert
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David
>>> McAfee
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:50 PM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime
>>>
>>> Does anyone know how to enable properties during runtime?
>>>
>>> If was trying to troubleshoot a cascading combobox rowsource to see if it is reading correctly.
>>>
>>> I know I can check if many different ways, but I like to enable properties and look at the data tab's rowsource field as I am clicking on things.
>>>
>>> It seems I can't display the combo box properties in runtime.
>>>
>>> Does anybody know how?
>>>
>>> David
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From davidmcafee at gmail.com  Tue Dec 29 16:37:25 2009
From: davidmcafee at gmail.com (David McAfee)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:37:25 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime
In-Reply-To: <34613F4D5BE942FE81B02668530402C0@abpc>
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I do like the layout view in reports.
Adjusting controls the only thing I like better in Crystal over Access
reports, and now Access has that ability. :)

Thanks for the tip.

David

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Asger Blond <ab-mi at post3.tele.dk> wrote:
> Yes, seems layout view is missing in adp - too bad...
> Asger
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af David McAfee
> Sendt: 29. december 2009 22:58
> Til: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Emne: Re: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime
>
> I don't see that option from the ribbon drop down or when right
> clicking ?the form name from the navigation pane.
>
> Only Design View and Form View are shown.
>
> hmm, just tried it in an mdb and it works fine.
>
> Wonder if the issue is that this is an ADP?
>
> David
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Asger Blond <ab-mi at post3.tele.dk> wrote:
>>
>> David,
>> Access 2007 now has 3 view modes for forms: design, form, and layout view. To see the properties window during runtime use layout view.
>> HTH
>> Asger
>>
>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>> Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af David McAfee
>> Sendt: 29. december 2009 22:32
>> Til: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Emne: Re: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime
>>
>> I used to love to be able to view and adjust listbox columns with the
>> properties at runtime.
>> I guess I wont be able to now that I've switched back to A2007. :(
>>
>> D
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Heenan, Lambert
>> <Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com> wrote:
>>> Ah... 2007... Not there yet.
>>>
>>> It sounds like good old M$ has 'fixed' a problem with Access 2002/2003, where the properties sheet would be visible when not wanted and you had to remember to set the objects 'Allow Design Changed' property to "Design View Only" before releasing an app. to the wild (the pointless default being "All Views").
>>>
>>> And they 'fixed' it so well you have lost functionality. Looks like you will have to roll your own solution: say a pop-up form that displays the information you want, or a bunch of Debug.Print statements.
>>>
>>> Lambert ;-(
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David McAfee
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:07 PM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime
>>>
>>> Im just talking about displaying them on my new box when troubleshooting a combo/list box.
>>>
>>> In prior versions, you could display the properties for a control in design view then when you switch to form view it would still be visible, not so in A2007.
>>>
>>> DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdProperties gives an error in A2007:
>>>
>>> Runtime error '2046'
>>> The command or action 'Properties' isn't available now.
>>>
>>> :/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Heenan, Lambert <Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com> wrote:
>>>> If you mean showing the properties sheet *AT* runtime, in a full MS Access installation then all you need is...
>>>>
>>>> ? ?Combo3.SetFocus
>>>> ? ?DoCmd.RunCommand acCmdProperties
>>>>
>>>> But if you are talking about displaying the properties sheet while running an application in the runtime environment (i.e. MS Access not installed) then I don't know how to do that.
>>>>
>>>> Lambert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David
>>>> McAfee
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:50 PM
>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>> Subject: [AccessD] A2007 Properties during runtime
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know how to enable properties during runtime?
>>>>
>>>> If was trying to troubleshoot a cascading combobox rowsource to see if it is reading correctly.
>>>>
>>>> I know I can check if many different ways, but I like to enable properties and look at the data tab's rowsource field as I am clicking on things.
>>>>
>>>> It seems I can't display the combo box properties in runtime.
>>>>
>>>> Does anybody know how?
>>>>
>>>> David



From krosenstiel at comcast.net  Tue Dec 29 19:24:11 2009
From: krosenstiel at comcast.net (Karen Rosenstiel)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:24:11 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
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References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005><aea6c4950912290924n33423a65k4c96af56f13bb25d@mail.gmail.com><69D522B1FCC9401583623E5D865A532E@HAL9005><aea6c4950912291045n742c0efex603aac1b1a8e0ede@mail.gmail.com><0BA4A52491034DA09AA29B933FFC1468@HAL9005><aea6c4950912291211g4ecc47aam582212a8e27d7468@mail.gmail.com><44463D90C6CF428F9E93C9066227B3D1@HAL9005><aea6c4950912291308k15fa1f1t2d8f6f2f3f202dbe@mail.gmail.com><aea6c4950912291317i3fd3a02ctcf2f3f76dbd8aef2@mail.gmail.com>
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I checked the reviews on Newegg. There were quite a few that said this hub
was average to below average. DLink apparently has really poor support and
their rebate on this product might not be honored. 


Regards,

Karen Rosenstiel
Seattle WA USA 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem

Or the same item from NewEgg at $45.99...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127082

Lambert 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem

http://www.frys.com/product/4818280

$59.99 8 port Gigabit Switch. from D-Link

GK

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:
> You NEED a Windows Home Server to back up all those machines. Pay no 
> attention that mine is still giving me grief. The concept is sound.
> Once you start streaming HD video that 100 mb switch ain't going to 
> cut it. Don't buy anything less than Gigabit now. Mark my words. Gary 
> Kjos, December 29, 2009, 3:07pm CST ?;-)
>
> GK
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
wrote:
>> True enough except we do very little computer to computer communication.
>> It's all internet. ?And there, I think the constraint is the servers, 
>> not the pipe to my house.
>>
>> R
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:12 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>>
>> OK, but before you spend any money..... Think about your purchase.
>>
>> The switch on your router probably runs at 10 or 100 bits per second.
>> Or maybe BYTES Per Second?
>>
>> At least some of your wired systems probably have 1,000 bps network 
>> connections. Instead of getting the cheapest switch you can find, you 
>> should think about getting a little LARGER one that also is 1,000
>> (gigabit) capable and then moving the other gear to that switch 
>> instead of connecting them to the router. It will only matter for 
>> computer to computer connections where both are at gigabit spead. In 
>> my case I have a Windows Home Server that has a gigabit connection 
>> and so I want all my other gigabit capable systems on that switch to 
>> take advantage. I bought an 8 port gigabit switch. I think it cost 
>> about $100. The slower stuff can go on either the routers switch or 
>> the new switch but all the fast stuff should go on the gigabit switch.
>>
>> John Colby turned me on to this concept.
>>
>> GK
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Rocky Smolin 
>> <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Since it looks like it's the hub that's the problem, I think for the 
>>> same amount of time I could go get an inexpensive switch at Fry's 
>>> and that might solve the problem.
>>>
>>> R
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:46 AM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>>>
>>> Yes that router has Auto Sensing ports.
>>>
>>> Quite a lot of troubleshooting info in the manual 
>>> http://kbserver.netgear.com/pdf/wpn824_ref_manual.pdf
>>>
>>> Have you gone into the browser interface to the router and see if it 
>>> shows that system under "connected devices" or something like that?
>>>
>>> I'm wondering if that system has and IP address hardcoaded or is not 
>>> looking to the router for it's IP address for some reason.
>>>
>>> GK
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Rocky Smolin 
>>> <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Router is a netgear WPN824 V2 Rangemax. ?I don't think there's any 
>>>> difference among the ports.
>>>>
>>>> R
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary 
>>>> Kjos
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 9:25 AM
>>>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>>> Cc: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>>>>
>>>> I have essentially the same thing going on. "Recenttly" (3 years
>>>> ago) I swapped out the hub for a switch to take advantage of 
>>>> gigabyte boards in some of my systems. On my router only port 1 is 
>>>> setup to have a hub or switch set up on it. You might check your 
>>>> router documentation. That cable then goes into the UPLOAD port on 
>>>> the switch or hub. All ports may not be equal when it comes to 
>>>> connecting additional
>>> hubs and or switches.
>>>>
>>>> GK
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Rocky Smolin 
>>>> <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Dear List:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports. 
>>>>> Problem is that I need five ports. ?I had an old hub in the 
>>>>> cabinet so I connected one of the router's ports to the hub. ?One 
>>>>> of the ports on the hub goes to a Netgear XE102 wall plugged 
>>>>> bridge which gives another computer and the HDTV access to the 
>>>>> network and the net through two other XE102s. ?Everything works a
treat.
>>>>>
>>>>> But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45
>>>>> cable) to an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the 
>>>>> network but not the internet - windows diagnosis shows the 
>>>>> computer is connected to 'unidentified network', 'local access 
>>>>> only', and says that the IP address is invalid - which it is - 
>>>>> looks like some kind of fixed IP instead of the 192.168.1.n number 
>>>>> assigned by the router
>> (?).
>>>>>
>>>>> Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why.
>>>>> And years ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think 
>>>>> the hub is good (the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) 
>>>>> and the cables are good - I tested them by using the router's 
>>>>> ports
>>>>> - and it
>>>> worked.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the 
>>>>> empty ports on the hub? ?Should I get a switch?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> MTIA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Tue Dec 29 19:46:49 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:46:49 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
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OK - Dlink 10/100 is $15 -
http://www.frys.com/product/4774329?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG -
10/100/1000 is $33 -
http://www.frys.com/product/4094352?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG - so no
brainer I guess.  Except the connection to the TV is through this:
http://www.netgear.com/Products/PowerlineNetworking/PowerlineEthernetAdapter
s/XE102.aspx

R 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:08 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem

You NEED a Windows Home Server to back up all those machines. Pay no
attention that mine is still giving me grief. The concept is sound.
Once you start streaming HD video that 100 mb switch ain't going to cut it.
Don't buy anything less than Gigabit now. Mark my words. Gary Kjos, December
29, 2009, 3:07pm CST  ;-)

GK

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
wrote:
> True enough except we do very little computer to computer communication.
> It's all internet. ?And there, I think the constraint is the servers, 
> not the pipe to my house.
>
> R
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:12 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>
> OK, but before you spend any money..... Think about your purchase.
>
> The switch on your router probably runs at 10 or 100 bits per second.
> Or maybe BYTES Per Second?
>
> At least some of your wired systems probably have 1,000 bps network 
> connections. Instead of getting the cheapest switch you can find, you 
> should think about getting a little LARGER one that also is 1,000
> (gigabit) capable and then moving the other gear to that switch 
> instead of connecting them to the router. It will only matter for 
> computer to computer connections where both are at gigabit spead. In 
> my case I have a Windows Home Server that has a gigabit connection and 
> so I want all my other gigabit capable systems on that switch to take 
> advantage. I bought an 8 port gigabit switch. I think it cost about 
> $100. The slower stuff can go on either the routers switch or the new 
> switch but all the fast stuff should go on the gigabit switch.
>
> John Colby turned me on to this concept.
>
> GK
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
> wrote:
>> Since it looks like it's the hub that's the problem, I think for the 
>> same amount of time I could go get an inexpensive switch at Fry's and 
>> that might solve the problem.
>>
>> R
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:46 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>>
>> Yes that router has Auto Sensing ports.
>>
>> Quite a lot of troubleshooting info in the manual 
>> http://kbserver.netgear.com/pdf/wpn824_ref_manual.pdf
>>
>> Have you gone into the browser interface to the router and see if it 
>> shows that system under "connected devices" or something like that?
>>
>> I'm wondering if that system has and IP address hardcoaded or is not 
>> looking to the router for it's IP address for some reason.
>>
>> GK
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Rocky Smolin 
>> <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Router is a netgear WPN824 V2 Rangemax. ?I don't think there's any 
>>> difference among the ports.
>>>
>>> R
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 9:25 AM
>>> To: Discussion of Hardware and Software issues
>>> Cc: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>>>
>>> I have essentially the same thing going on. "Recenttly" (3 years 
>>> ago) I swapped out the hub for a switch to take advantage of 
>>> gigabyte boards in some of my systems. On my router only port 1 is 
>>> setup to have a hub or switch set up on it. You might check your 
>>> router documentation. That cable then goes into the UPLOAD port on 
>>> the switch or hub. All ports may not be equal when it comes to 
>>> connecting additional
>> hubs and or switches.
>>>
>>> GK
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Rocky Smolin 
>>> <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Dear List:
>>>>
>>>> I have a nice netgerar router with wireless and four ports. ?
>>>> Problem is that I need five ports. ?I had an old hub in the cabinet 
>>>> so I connected one of the router's ports to the hub. ?One of the 
>>>> ports on the hub goes to a Netgear XE102 wall plugged bridge which 
>>>> gives another computer and the HDTV access to the network and the 
>>>> net through two other XE102s. ?Everything works a treat.
>>>>
>>>> But when I try to connect another machine (via regular Cat-5/RJ45
>>>> cable) to an empty port on the hub, the computer can see the 
>>>> network but not the internet - windows diagnosis shows the computer 
>>>> is connected to 'unidentified network', 'local access only', and 
>>>> says that the IP address is invalid - which it is - looks like some 
>>>> kind of fixed IP instead of the 192.168.1.n number assigned by the 
>>>> router
> (?).
>>>>
>>>> Oddly, the Netgear bridge doesn't have a problem - don't know why.
>>>> And years ago I was using this hub to connect machines. So I think 
>>>> the hub is good (the Netgear Bridge works in all the hub's ports) 
>>>> and the cables are good - I tested them by using the router's ports
>>>> - and it
>>> worked.
>>>>
>>>> Anybody know why these ports won't work? Is there a way to use the 
>>>> empty ports on the hub? ?Should I get a switch?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> MTIA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rocky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Dec 29 21:24:22 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:24:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW:  Re:  [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <44463D90C6CF428F9E93C9066227B3D1@HAL9005>
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Unless you have fiber to the curb, your constraint on the internet will be the service provider. 
Mine is ~10 mbit / second.  Obviously that will go just fine on any 100 mbit switch / router.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Rocky Smolin wrote:
> True enough except we do very little computer to computer communication.
> It's all internet.  And there, I think the constraint is the servers, not
> the pipe to my house.
> 
> R 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:12 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
> 
> OK, but before you spend any money..... Think about your purchase.
> 
> The switch on your router probably runs at 10 or 100 bits per second.
> Or maybe BYTES Per Second?
> 
> At least some of your wired systems probably have 1,000 bps network
> connections. Instead of getting the cheapest switch you can find, you should
> think about getting a little LARGER one that also is 1,000
> (gigabit) capable and then moving the other gear to that switch instead of
> connecting them to the router. It will only matter for computer to computer
> connections where both are at gigabit spead. In my case I have a Windows
> Home Server that has a gigabit connection and so I want all my other gigabit
> capable systems on that switch to take advantage. I bought an 8 port gigabit
> switch. I think it cost about $100. The slower stuff can go on either the
> routers switch or the new switch but all the fast stuff should go on the
> gigabit switch.
> 
> John Colby turned me on to this concept.



From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Tue Dec 29 21:25:34 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:25:34 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW:  Re:  [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950912291308k15fa1f1t2d8f6f2f3f202dbe@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <4B3AC82E.1020200@colbyconsulting.com>

ROTFL.

And John Colby is a pretty smart guy too.  ;)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Gary Kjos wrote:
> You NEED a Windows Home Server to back up all those machines. Pay no
> attention that mine is still giving me grief. The concept is sound.
> Once you start streaming HD video that 100 mb switch ain't going to
> cut it. Don't buy anything less than Gigabit now. Mark my words. Gary
> Kjos, December 29, 2009, 3:07pm CST  ;-)
> 
> GK
> 
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Rocky Smolin <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:
>> True enough except we do very little computer to computer communication.
>> It's all internet.  And there, I think the constraint is the servers, not
>> the pipe to my house.
>>
>> R
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:12 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>>
>> OK, but before you spend any money..... Think about your purchase.
>>
>> The switch on your router probably runs at 10 or 100 bits per second.
>> Or maybe BYTES Per Second?
>>
>> At least some of your wired systems probably have 1,000 bps network
>> connections. Instead of getting the cheapest switch you can find, you should
>> think about getting a little LARGER one that also is 1,000
>> (gigabit) capable and then moving the other gear to that switch instead of
>> connecting them to the router. It will only matter for computer to computer
>> connections where both are at gigabit spead. In my case I have a Windows
>> Home Server that has a gigabit connection and so I want all my other gigabit
>> capable systems on that switch to take advantage. I bought an 8 port gigabit
>> switch. I think it cost about $100. The slower stuff can go on either the
>> routers switch or the new switch but all the fast stuff should go on the
>> gigabit switch.
>>
>> John Colby turned me on to this concept.
>>
>> GK



From garykjos at gmail.com  Wed Dec 30 11:04:41 2009
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:04:41 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <4B3AC7E6.3070307@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>
	<aea6c4950912290924n33423a65k4c96af56f13bb25d@mail.gmail.com>
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Aw come on John. I know YOU are NOT buying any 10/100 switch. Now you
probably have some of those laying around but you are only buying
Gigabit netowrking stuff aren't you?

GK

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:24 PM, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> Unless you have fiber to the curb, your constraint on the internet will be the service provider.
> Mine is ~10 mbit / second. ?Obviously that will go just fine on any 100 mbit switch / router.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>
> Rocky Smolin wrote:
>> True enough except we do very little computer to computer communication.
>> It's all internet. ?And there, I think the constraint is the servers, not
>> the pipe to my house.
>>
>> R
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:12 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>>
>> OK, but before you spend any money..... Think about your purchase.
>>
>> The switch on your router probably runs at 10 or 100 bits per second.
>> Or maybe BYTES Per Second?
>>
>> At least some of your wired systems probably have 1,000 bps network
>> connections. Instead of getting the cheapest switch you can find, you should
>> think about getting a little LARGER one that also is 1,000
>> (gigabit) capable and then moving the other gear to that switch instead of
>> connecting them to the router. It will only matter for computer to computer
>> connections where both are at gigabit spead. In my case I have a Windows
>> Home Server that has a gigabit connection and so I want all my other gigabit
>> capable systems on that switch to take advantage. I bought an 8 port gigabit
>> switch. I think it cost about $100. The slower stuff can go on either the
>> routers switch or the new switch but all the fast stuff should go on the
>> gigabit switch.
>>
>> John Colby turned me on to this concept.
>


-- 
Gary Kjos
garykjos at gmail.com



From jedi at charm.net  Wed Dec 30 12:01:39 2009
From: jedi at charm.net (Michael Bahr)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:01:39 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950912291308k15fa1f1t2d8f6f2f3f202dbe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>
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	<69D522B1FCC9401583623E5D865A532E@HAL9005>
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> You NEED a Windows Home Server to back up all those machines. Pay no
> attention that mine is still giving me grief. The concept is sound.
> Once you start streaming HD video that 100 mb switch ain't going to
> cut it. Don't buy anything less than Gigabit now. Mark my words. Gary

This is sooo NOT true!!  I stream HD content from my computer upstairs to
my HD TV downstairs using a 100Mbs connection.  There is absolutely no
studdering--just smooth playback.  I record OTA broadcast and record
directly from my cable Set Top Box using an HD-PVR to my computer and edit
out the commercials.  Even Blu-Ray can be streamed through 100Mps
connection.

A 1000Mps switch will do no good unless the router is also 1000Mps.  Also
a 1000Mps is much less than 10 times faster, more like 2-4 times at best. 
You are better off sticking with 100Mps unless you get a good deal.

> Kjos, December 29, 2009, 3:07pm CST  ;-)
>
> GK
>




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Dec 30 12:17:08 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:17:08 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <aea6c4950912300904s43771f86ve110a382d687b5a8@mail.gmail.com>
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	<aea6c4950912300904s43771f86ve110a382d687b5a8@mail.gmail.com>
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I use gigabit switches up in my office.  However I bought two refurbed wireless routers for setting 
up access points (networks) at opposite ends of my house.  I run the cable modem into a 10/100 
switch which I run up to my office at the east end of my house.  I also run a wire off to the west 
end of the house to the living room.  So in the middle of my house is that first 10 / 100 / 
wireless.  The video server, a Windows Home Server machine, is up in my office.  The HTPC is down in 
the living room at the opposite end of the house.  All video from the WHS runs through 10/100 (that 
middle router) to get to the HTPC.

The gigabit switch up in my office interfaces my two SQL Server "mega machines", my WHS and my 
laptop.  So IN MY OFFICE, I have full gigabit, but for the rest of the house I only have 10/100. 
Sadly, in the affordable wireless router market, the switch is still a 10/100.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Gary Kjos wrote:
> Aw come on John. I know YOU are NOT buying any 10/100 switch. Now you
> probably have some of those laying around but you are only buying
> Gigabit netowrking stuff aren't you?
> 
> GK
> 
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:24 PM, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
>> Unless you have fiber to the curb, your constraint on the internet will be the service provider.
>> Mine is ~10 mbit / second.  Obviously that will go just fine on any 100 mbit switch / router.
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>>
>> Rocky Smolin wrote:
>>> True enough except we do very little computer to computer communication.
>>> It's all internet.  And there, I think the constraint is the servers, not
>>> the pipe to my house.
>>>
>>> R
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:12 PM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
>>>
>>> OK, but before you spend any money..... Think about your purchase.
>>>
>>> The switch on your router probably runs at 10 or 100 bits per second.
>>> Or maybe BYTES Per Second?
>>>
>>> At least some of your wired systems probably have 1,000 bps network
>>> connections. Instead of getting the cheapest switch you can find, you should
>>> think about getting a little LARGER one that also is 1,000
>>> (gigabit) capable and then moving the other gear to that switch instead of
>>> connecting them to the router. It will only matter for computer to computer
>>> connections where both are at gigabit spead. In my case I have a Windows
>>> Home Server that has a gigabit connection and so I want all my other gigabit
>>> capable systems on that switch to take advantage. I bought an 8 port gigabit
>>> switch. I think it cost about $100. The slower stuff can go on either the
>>> routers switch or the new switch but all the fast stuff should go on the
>>> gigabit switch.
>>>
>>> John Colby turned me on to this concept.
> 
> 


From Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com  Wed Dec 30 12:40:22 2009
From: Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:40:22 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <4B3B9924.4010206@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>
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This one looks pretty affordable...

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3591557&csid=ITD&body=MAIN#detailspecs

Lambert :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 1:17 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem

I use gigabit switches up in my office.  However I bought two refurbed wireless routers for setting up access points (networks) at opposite ends of my house.  <snip>
Sadly, in the affordable wireless router market, the switch is still a 10/100.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com




From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Dec 30 12:40:53 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:40:53 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <1753.24.35.25.42.1262196099.squirrel@mail.expedient.net>
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Michael,

Yes, video will play smoothly on 100 mbps.

And true, a gigabit switch does no good if any part of the path goes through a 100 mbit switch.

OTOH, if you have servers that need to talk to each other, gigabit between the servers is the way to go.

My home / office is a good example.  I have a 100 mbit router with wireless in the middle of the 
house.  My office is upstairs at one end, the living room is downstairs on the other end.

I have a gigabit switch that serves the entire office, however everything from my office to the 
living room is 100 mbit because it goes through the 100 mbit router in the middle.  Even if I wanted 
to run gigabit to the living room I terminate in another wireless router in the living room which 
has... a 100 mbit switch.  I have THREE wireless routers in my home, one at each end of the house 
and one in the middle.  Each has a 100 mbit switch.  I could go gigabit in the routers but the cost 
so high that I don't.

Out of curiosity, I just went down to the living room and looked at the network utilization as I 
watched a 720p video.  It peaked at 25% of the 100 mbit link and averaged about 13%.  That is one 
stream to one tv, at 720P.

I think that full gigabit is good in concept, but I personally don't because of the cost of gigabit 
wireless routers.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Michael Bahr wrote:
>> You NEED a Windows Home Server to back up all those machines. Pay no
>> attention that mine is still giving me grief. The concept is sound.
>> Once you start streaming HD video that 100 mb switch ain't going to
>> cut it. Don't buy anything less than Gigabit now. Mark my words. Gary
> 
> This is sooo NOT true!!  I stream HD content from my computer upstairs to
> my HD TV downstairs using a 100Mbs connection.  There is absolutely no
> studdering--just smooth playback.  I record OTA broadcast and record
> directly from my cable Set Top Box using an HD-PVR to my computer and edit
> out the commercials.  Even Blu-Ray can be streamed through 100Mps
> connection.
> 
> A 1000Mps switch will do no good unless the router is also 1000Mps.  Also
> a 1000Mps is much less than 10 times faster, more like 2-4 times at best. 
> You are better off sticking with 100Mps unless you get a good deal.
> 
>> Kjos, December 29, 2009, 3:07pm CST  ;-)
>>
>> GK
>>
> 
> 


From jedi at charm.net  Wed Dec 30 14:33:28 2009
From: jedi at charm.net (Michael Bahr)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:33:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [AccessD] [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <4B3B9EB5.4040407@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>	<aea6c4950912290924n33423a65k4c96af56f13bb25d@mail.gmail.com>	<69D522B1FCC9401583623E5D865A532E@HAL9005>	<aea6c4950912291045n742c0efex603aac1b1a8e0ede@mail.gmail.com>	<0BA4A52491034DA09AA29B933FFC1468@HAL9005>	<aea6c4950912291211g4ecc47aam582212a8e27d7468@mail.gmail.com>	<44463D90C6CF428F9E93C9066227B3D1@HAL9005>	<aea6c4950912291308k15fa1f1t2d8f6f2f3f202dbe@mail.gmail.com>
	<1753.24.35.25.42.1262196099.squirrel@mail.expedient.net>
	<4B3B9EB5.4040407@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <1443.24.35.25.42.1262205208.squirrel@mail.expedient.net>

Hi John, I was responding to the comment about video streaming.  If
anybody tells you you **need** Giga-Bit to stream video then they are just
lying.  You are correct about network servers and such.  There are several
protocals that are used to stream video, one of the more popular ones is
http.  Http maxes out at about 45-50 Mbps.  This is well within the ~90%
of video out there today--as you already observed in your network
performance.  Even raw Blu-Ray video would probrably pass ok using this
protocall.  I have some demo videos that are at 1080P with 5.1 DTS that 
streams comfortly to my surprize and oh they look and sound so nice.  When
the time is right I need to buy a file-server to archive my videos. 
Newegg has a bunch and so far Synology and Qnap are in the running.

Mike...

> Michael,
>
> Yes, video will play smoothly on 100 mbps.
>
> And true, a gigabit switch does no good if any part of the path goes
> through a 100 mbit switch.
>
> OTOH, if you have servers that need to talk to each other, gigabit between
> the servers is the way to go.
>
> My home / office is a good example.  I have a 100 mbit router with
> wireless in the middle of the
> house.  My office is upstairs at one end, the living room is downstairs on
> the other end.
>
> I have a gigabit switch that serves the entire office, however everything
> from my office to the
> living room is 100 mbit because it goes through the 100 mbit router in the
> middle.  Even if I wanted
> to run gigabit to the living room I terminate in another wireless router
> in the living room which
> has... a 100 mbit switch.  I have THREE wireless routers in my home, one
> at each end of the house
> and one in the middle.  Each has a 100 mbit switch.  I could go gigabit in
> the routers but the cost
> so high that I don't.
>
> Out of curiosity, I just went down to the living room and looked at the
> network utilization as I
> watched a 720p video.  It peaked at 25% of the 100 mbit link and averaged
> about 13%.  That is one
> stream to one tv, at 720P.
>
> I think that full gigabit is good in concept, but I personally don't
> because of the cost of gigabit
> wireless routers.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>
> Michael Bahr wrote:
>>> You NEED a Windows Home Server to back up all those machines. Pay no
>>> attention that mine is still giving me grief. The concept is sound.
>>> Once you start streaming HD video that 100 mb switch ain't going to
>>> cut it. Don't buy anything less than Gigabit now. Mark my words. Gary
>>
>> This is sooo NOT true!!  I stream HD content from my computer upstairs
>> to
>> my HD TV downstairs using a 100Mbs connection.  There is absolutely no
>> studdering--just smooth playback.  I record OTA broadcast and record
>> directly from my cable Set Top Box using an HD-PVR to my computer and
>> edit
>> out the commercials.  Even Blu-Ray can be streamed through 100Mps
>> connection.
>>
>> A 1000Mps switch will do no good unless the router is also 1000Mps.
>> Also
>> a 1000Mps is much less than 10 times faster, more like 2-4 times at
>> best.
>> You are better off sticking with 100Mps unless you get a good deal.
>>
>>> Kjos, December 29, 2009, 3:07pm CST  ;-)
>>>
>>> GK
>>>
>>
>>
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Wed Dec 30 22:28:54 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:28:54 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
In-Reply-To: <B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E7E0D0F22@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
References: <0673D299CEEB4B8795151B0C69F99777@HAL9005>	<aea6c4950912290924n33423a65k4c96af56f13bb25d@mail.gmail.com>	<69D522B1FCC9401583623E5D865A532E@HAL9005>	<aea6c4950912291045n742c0efex603aac1b1a8e0ede@mail.gmail.com>	<0BA4A52491034DA09AA29B933FFC1468@HAL9005>	<aea6c4950912291211g4ecc47aam582212a8e27d7468@mail.gmail.com>	<44463D90C6CF428F9E93C9066227B3D1@HAL9005>	<4B3AC7E6.3070307@colbyconsulting.com>	<aea6c4950912300904s43771f86ve110a382d687b5a8@mail.gmail.com>	<4B3B9924.4010206@colbyconsulting.com>
	<B4F1446167F0BD4FAD640A79824EE0B00E7E0D0F22@LIVP3MMBX11.mail.aig.net>
Message-ID: <4B3C2886.1040609@colbyconsulting.com>

Well... "affordable" for one maybe, but I need at least two.  Even then, affordable for me is $50. 
I actually bought two refurbished routers for $29 each.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Heenan, Lambert wrote:
> This one looks pretty affordable...
> 
> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3591557&csid=ITD&body=MAIN#detailspecs
> 
> Lambert :-)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 1:17 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW: Re: [dba-Tech] Hub problem
> 
> I use gigabit switches up in my office.  However I bought two refurbed wireless routers for setting up access points (networks) at opposite ends of my house.  <snip>
> Sadly, in the affordable wireless router market, the switch is still a 10/100.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> 


From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Dec 31 04:47:38 2009
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:47:38 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Happy New Year
Message-ID: <sb3c8f7d.035@cactus.dk>

Hi all

I need a little help. My New Year's resolution is to not have a New Year's resolution. How do I make that come true?

Happy New Year to everyone!

/gustav




From ab-mi at post3.tele.dk  Thu Dec 31 05:59:26 2009
From: ab-mi at post3.tele.dk (Asger Blond)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:59:26 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Happy New Year
In-Reply-To: <sb3c8f7d.035@cactus.dk>
References: <sb3c8f7d.035@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <FE39BB286CDC4EB39A7F9E082874C2C0@abpc>

Well, since the liar paradox was the great inspiration for Alan Turing maybe you could just stick to computer theory.

Happy New Year
Asger

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Gustav Brock
Sendt: 31. december 2009 11:48
Til: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Emne: [AccessD] OT: Happy New Year

Hi all

I need a little help. My New Year's resolution is to not have a New Year's resolution. How do I make that come true?

Happy New Year to everyone!

/gustav


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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Thu Dec 31 08:30:08 2009
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 06:30:08 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Happy New Year
In-Reply-To: <sb3c8f7d.035@cactus.dk>
References: <sb3c8f7d.035@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <2ADD1FC7AD8A4217A6899659D2209778@HAL9005>

I think nulls must be involved somehow...

Best to you and yours Gustav.

R 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 2:48 AM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Happy New Year

Hi all

I need a little help. My New Year's resolution is to not have a New Year's
resolution. How do I make that come true?

Happy New Year to everyone!

/gustav


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From jwelz at hotmail.com  Thu Dec 31 11:16:41 2009
From: jwelz at hotmail.com (Jurgen Welz)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:16:41 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] A2K:Get file name after drag and drop_SecondSend
In-Reply-To: <02e201ca860b$e798bf30$301b910a@denzilnote>
References: <043c01ca7a02$c60ffbe0$301b910a@denzilnote><013501ca82b0$8e67e930$301b910a@denzilnote><4B30CE8A.50305@colbyconsulting.com>,
	, <01a801ca8315$2c7cf8e0$301b910a@denzilnote>, ,
	<B888A7D5E7A54CDB8791DE8942CAB70B@Mattys>,
	<BLU144-W5A851529416403C959D59A1810@phx.gbl>,
	<02e201ca860b$e798bf30$301b910a@denzilnote>
Message-ID: <BLU144-W27C02C7BF67CF4785A79BEA1780@phx.gbl>


It was the link in Michael's post.

Ciao J?rgen Welz Edmonton, Alberta jwelz at hotmail.com


 
> From: darren at activebilling.com.au
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:14:59 +1100
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K:Get file name after drag and drop_SecondSend
> 
> Hi Jurgen
> When you say great code are you referring to the link in Michael's post below or
> was there some code or example in your post I can't see?
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Darren
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jurgen Welz
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 December 2009 8:46 AM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2K:Get file name after drag and drop_SecondSend
> 
> 
> Great Code. Works well in Access 2003. Properties on the VBA Editor Help ->
> About screen in this version of Access shows VB 6.3. I added the form code to a
> sub form Filelist common to several forms in an application. It stores the full
> file path and name in the strFilename variable of the Public Dropped procedure
> as written.
> 
> 
> 
> This procedure will allow me to directly copy files to one or more of the
> folders displayed in my file list subform using file procedures in VBA. Very
> Nice!
> 
> Ciao 
> 
> J?rgen Welz 
> 
> Edmonton, Alberta 
> 
> jwelz at hotmail.com
 		 	   		  
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From jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com  Thu Dec 31 16:29:43 2009
From: jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com (jwcolby)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:29:43 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Happy new year
Message-ID: <4B3D25D7.2030404@colbyconsulting.com>

I will likely be asleep when it actually happens locally, so I wish each and every one of you a MUCH 
better year in 2010.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

-- 
John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


From garykjos at gmail.com  Thu Dec 31 16:35:55 2009
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:35:55 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Happy new year
In-Reply-To: <4B3D25D7.2030404@colbyconsulting.com>
References: <4B3D25D7.2030404@colbyconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <aea6c4950912311435i793a6c8dua23b75578f87b699@mail.gmail.com>

Likewise for me too John. Early to bed, early to rise is my program
for the most part.

I echo your sentiments. Happy New Year!

GK

On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 4:29 PM, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> I will likely be asleep when it actually happens locally, so I wish each and every one of you a MUCH
> better year in 2010.
>
> HAPPY NEW YEAR!
>
> --
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com


-- 
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