Салахетдинов Шамиль
mcp2004 at mail.ru
Wed Jan 28 17:17:49 CST 2009
Agreed with William. Tried Iron Speed but found it too heavy and limiting... It could have been NIH-syndrome but I then have developed my own light app framework on top on .NET Framework - a light app framework and hand made code generator to develop 3-layered web apps... ...once again, it could have been NIH-syndrome, and I planned to "cure myself" from it by using LINQ to SQL but I have recently got known that LINQ to SQL is dead (http://www.infoq.com/news/2008/11/DLINQ-Future), and I'm happy again that I didn't bind myself with any cute but volatile MS technologies and third-party tools... ...well, I currently have some hopes looking at CSLA.NET(http://www.lhotka.net/cslanet/) and LINQ to Entities (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb386964.aspx) but I doubt I will use them as the core of my development because VS2008 + ASP.NET + .NET Framework + custom business application programming is usually all you need for effective and competetive modern software development... ...LINQ (and its variations: LINQ to Objects, LINQ to XML, LINQ to Entities...) - they are interesting IMO because they can supply in the (near) future "out-of-the-box" parallel execution of managed code on multi-core PCs: is that parallel execution needed for my projects now with dual core PCs being mainstream? - no, and it looks like (business applications) software we are developing is getting obsolete very quickly these days therefore caring for this software tomorrow is becoming expensive... ...I can be wrong but my current development strategy is to use as much as possible core stable .NET Framework and VS and MS SQL technologies and wait for new "cute" ones to get mature and stabilize or die - I will use the former (stabilized and mature), and I will not waste my time for the latter (cute but getting dead quickly (LINQ2SQL) or cute but heavy and too limiting (Iron Speed...))... It seems to work rather well this strategy. I should have stopped looking for "silver bullet" a long ago... Thank you. -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: "William Hindman" <wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:57:25 -0500 Subject: Re: [AccessD] IronSpeed > > Max > > ...just a note from my own experience with such tools ...when I first > started looking at web technologies because a large client insisted that I > do his web site rather than farm it out to someone he didn't know, Iron > Speed was one of the tools I evaluated before going with Code Charge Studio > ...a long and painful time later I actually produced a data driven site with > it ...but the limitations are very serious ...you do it their way and if > they can't do it, well then you have to build it from scratch and wonder why > in the hell you didn't do it all from scratch ...there are compromises that > are forced upon you at every turn and they accumulate ...immediately after I > delivered the web site MS released VS Express Web Developer Edition for free > and I started playing with it ...heaven! ...Access on steroids on the web > ...and totally free ...and while the learning curve, while not paltry, was > no more than with Iron Speed or CCS, the results were enormously better in > functionality, performance, and the gui. > > ...any of these tools readily use an mdb as their datasource ...but with VS > its native and there are a HUGE amount of resources on the web to resolve > virtually any problem you can think of ...Iron Speed and CCS have dedicated > user communities but its necessarily very limited in comparison to VS. > > ...hth > > William > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Max Wanadoo" <max.wanadoo at gmail.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 3:38 PM > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Subject: [AccessD] IronSpeed > > > John Cliviger: > > > > John, do you (or anybody) have any experience of deploying MS Access DBs > > to > > IronSpeed? > > > > http://www.ironspeed.com/products/DownloadNow.aspx?c=CP02 > > > > Thanks > > Max > > > > > > > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >