[AccessD] IronSpeed

Lonnie Johnson prodevmg at yahoo.com
Thu Jan 29 06:54:42 CST 2009


IronSpeed can give you some pretty snazzy looking web apps that you can not normally get with VS and with a lot less effort. It is great for a novice if your specs are not too complicated and the user gives you the freedom to come up with how the application will look.
 
With that said it is not very practical if you work in an environment where the user is very specific about how the application willl look and function. It also generates wayyyyyy too much code on the web and database side. Then there are IT environment issues that you have to deal with to make it work on your server. The support staff is readily available but kind of defensive. Most of the time when you contact them the first response makes you feel like you have done something wrong instead of admitting that the tool is not as versatile as it should be.
 
I have bought it for my employees. We tried it and none of us like it. We were already using Visual Studio and thought this may expedite some of our work. Didn't happen.






May God bless you beyond your imagination!
Lonnie Johnson
ProDev, Professional Development of MS Access Databases
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--- On Thu, 1/29/09, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

From: Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] IronSpeed
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 4:23 AM

Hi William

Looks like we have a true fan of VS!

Neither do I have high thoughts about IronSpeed nor CodeCharge but with the
important difference, that I haven't tried any of them, so I can't tell
for sure.

But as for a framework or the like - or none - do you do as Shamil: 

" .. VS2008 + ASP.NET + .NET Framework + custom business application
programming is usually all you need for effective and competetive modern
software development..."

I tend to agree. Some of these frameworks are promoted by much sweet talk, but
I'm reluctant to enter some more or less steep learning curve just to
discover that it only brought you into a dead end or at least an area with
strange limitations.

Though I for the last year have been working with VS only, my experience with
web development is sparse but I am working hard as I soon will be entering a
larger project. So decisions have to be made ...

/gustav


>>> wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com 29-01-2009 12:55 >>>
Max

...the hardest thing for me to learn about web development was the web 
itself ...it is such a vastly different environment than the desktop 
...bandwidth drives everything and your priorities shift accordingly 
...Ironspeed didn't offer that pitch when I was evaluating them so I
can't 
honestly say they can't do it now though I find it hard to believe ...but I

can say that VS will allow you to produce an application that is very close 
to what you would do with Access ...and much more. You can dl it for free 
and MS has gone out of its way to provide good videos on how to do most of 
the basics ...and what MS misses, there is a vast support community on the 
web with unending samples and millions of lines of code.

William


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