[AccessD] Learning .Net

Jim Lawrence accessd at shaw.ca
Tue Jun 23 17:20:12 CDT 2009


Just like the phones... excellent concept.... but 30 more for less :-(

That's the way it should be then the whole argument about internet vs local
will be over.

Jim  

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 2:25 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Learning .Net

AT&T was out here in the boonies last week trying to sell me their new 
U-Verse plan over my current Comcast 16Gb

...the most attractive sales point, to me, was that in a total power outage 
like after a hurricane (knock on wood)

they guarantee 20 hours of net access after the power fails because the 
whole system is on huge battery back-up

...but they wanted $30 a month more and that didn't include free calls to 
Thailand so I wasn't interested.

William

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From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:56 PM
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Learning .Net

> > I can hardly wait until fiber-opticale gigabyte internet lines starts 
> > coming down my street... as
> this will just be a moot point. ;-)
>
> lol...
>
> I lost power the other day for hours on end.  While my generator fired up 
> and I went on with my
> work, I had to switch tasks to work local as my internet connection went 
> out with the power.  And
> NOT at my house, it was out all over town.
>
> This is one argument AGAINST cloud computing (and storage).
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>
> Jim Lawrence wrote:
>> Hi Drew:
>>
>> I can hardly wait until fiber-opticale gigabyte internet lines starts 
>> coming
>> down my street... as this will just be a moot point. ;-)
>>
>> Of course what ever works for you is just fine.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:34 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Learning .Net
>>
>> Yes, remoting in, such as with Remote Desktop, or some other Terminal
>> session, will work fine, because you are getting the screen, not working
>> a file based database across the network.
>>
>> However, sometimes you just want an application running on your local
>> system.  For example, when I am home, I make a VPN connection, and open
>> Outlook, so I almost always have my work email (the only email system I
>> really use).  I also have an application that used to be our request
>> system.  It has a lot more features, so it is still in use (even though
>> we now use a very slow web based 'request' system).  It has automatic
>> links to various systems, and more importantly, it has a 'Phone List'
>> for the company.  That phone list is pretty tricked out.  I can search
>> for someone in a blink of an eye, and from that search, can get their
>> contact info, if they are online, can remote into their machine, can use
>> remote computer management, links to their local drives, etc.  Can
>> switch the phone list to list our online servers too.
>>
>> While I could remote in to use that app, I prefer to be able to use it
>> straight through the VPN.  When that app was .mdb based, it would take
>> 20 to 30 times longer to do anything.  Very sluggish.  (And it did use
>> ADO to access the .mdb).  Now it hits a SQL server, and there is a
>> fraction of a delay over a VPN versus when I am local.  That is truly
>> the only advantage I have found though, because this app ran just fine
>> locally over our local network when it used an .mdb.
>>
>> Drew
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
>> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:17 PM
>> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Learning .Net
>>
>> Hi Drew:
>>
>> I have found the best solution is to remote-in rather than try to run an
>> Access MDB through a VPN and if you are going to do the VPN then unbound
>> with ADO-OLE works well for me.
>>
>> You can get a free express version of Oracle and forms app... I have no
>> idea
>> how good they are.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
>> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 1:41 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Learning .Net
>>
>> Not Oracle?  Yikes!  <grin>
>>
>> As an ardent fan of Access (especially Access 97), I must admit that
>> knowledge in a server side database can come in real handy!  On a normal
>> network, an .mdb solution works fine, but try using it over a VPN, and
>> yikes.....
>>
>> Drew
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