[AccessD] Magic Jack (OT)

William Hindman wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com
Tue Jun 23 21:14:09 CDT 2009


Drew
...yes and no ...unlike Vonage it requires a pc AND internet access ...on 
both ends ...given those, its very cheap and as reliable as its dependents.
...Comcast gives me voip off my cable modem, no pc required on either end 
...in Thailand they receive the calls on their landline or cell phones.
...pcs and internet access are still relatively expensive in Thailand so the 
Magic Jack is not the "magic" answer you would think
William

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From: "Drew Wutka" <DWUTKA at marlow.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 6:31 PM
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: [AccessD] Magic Jack (OT)

> Yes.  It's an IP phone 'jack', that plugs into your USB, allowing you to
> plug your normal phone into it, making VoIP calls.  It is a US based
> system, so calls in the US are free, however, you can buy a Magic Jack,
> send it to someone overseas (with Internet access), and they will then
> have a US number.
>
> It's something like $40, which is the jack, and 1 year of service, after
> that, it's $20 a year for service, probably the cheapest phone service
> you can find.
>
> Drew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:24 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Learning .Net
>
> Using the internet?
>
> Max
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
> Sent: 23 June 2009 23:11
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Learning .Net
>
> Yes, it's just a physical device that allows you to use a normal phone.
> More like Vonage.
>
> Drew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:04 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Learning .Net
>
> Thanks.  Googled it and it sounds vry much like skype.
>
> Max
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
> Sent: 23 June 2009 22:54
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Learning .Net
>
> Whooops, meant 'Magic Jack'.  It's a USB IP Phone.
>
> My bad....
>
> Drew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:48 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Learning .Net
>
> What is a smart jack?  I have just googled it and it just appears to be
> a
> termination box between the "provider" and the "user"
>
> Max
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
> Sent: 23 June 2009 22:36
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Learning .Net
>
> If you are just calling Lai's family, why not send them a 'smart jack'.
> They'd have a US number then. (for $20 a year!)
>
> Drew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William
> Hindman
> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:25 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Learning .Net
>
> AT&T was out here in the boonies last week trying to sell me their new
> U-Verse plan over my current Comcast 16Gb
>
> ...the most attractive sales point, to me, was that in a total power
> outage
> like after a hurricane (knock on wood)
>
> they guarantee 20 hours of net access after the power fails because the
> whole system is on huge battery back-up
>
> ...but they wanted $30 a month more and that didn't include free calls
> to
> Thailand so I wasn't interested.
>
> William
>
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> From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:56 PM
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> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Learning .Net
>
>> > I can hardly wait until fiber-opticale gigabyte internet lines
> starts
>> > coming down my street... as
>> this will just be a moot point. ;-)
>>
>> lol...
>>
>> I lost power the other day for hours on end.  While my generator fired
> up
>> and I went on with my
>> work, I had to switch tasks to work local as my internet connection
> went
>> out with the power.  And
>> NOT at my house, it was out all over town.
>>
>> This is one argument AGAINST cloud computing (and storage).
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>>
>> Jim Lawrence wrote:
>>> Hi Drew:
>>>
>>> I can hardly wait until fiber-opticale gigabyte internet lines starts
>
>>> coming
>>> down my street... as this will just be a moot point. ;-)
>>>
>>> Of course what ever works for you is just fine.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:34 AM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Learning .Net
>>>
>>> Yes, remoting in, such as with Remote Desktop, or some other Terminal
>>> session, will work fine, because you are getting the screen, not
> working
>>> a file based database across the network.
>>>
>>> However, sometimes you just want an application running on your local
>>> system.  For example, when I am home, I make a VPN connection, and
> open
>>> Outlook, so I almost always have my work email (the only email system
> I
>>> really use).  I also have an application that used to be our request
>>> system.  It has a lot more features, so it is still in use (even
> though
>>> we now use a very slow web based 'request' system).  It has automatic
>>> links to various systems, and more importantly, it has a 'Phone List'
>>> for the company.  That phone list is pretty tricked out.  I can
> search
>>> for someone in a blink of an eye, and from that search, can get their
>>> contact info, if they are online, can remote into their machine, can
> use
>>> remote computer management, links to their local drives, etc.  Can
>>> switch the phone list to list our online servers too.
>>>
>>> While I could remote in to use that app, I prefer to be able to use
> it
>>> straight through the VPN.  When that app was .mdb based, it would
> take
>>> 20 to 30 times longer to do anything.  Very sluggish.  (And it did
> use
>>> ADO to access the .mdb).  Now it hits a SQL server, and there is a
>>> fraction of a delay over a VPN versus when I am local.  That is truly
>>> the only advantage I have found though, because this app ran just
> fine
>>> locally over our local network when it used an .mdb.
>>>
>>> Drew
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> Lawrence
>>> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:17 PM
>>> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Learning .Net
>>>
>>> Hi Drew:
>>>
>>> I have found the best solution is to remote-in rather than try to run
> an
>>> Access MDB through a VPN and if you are going to do the VPN then
> unbound
>>> with ADO-OLE works well for me.
>>>
>>> You can get a free express version of Oracle and forms app... I have
> no
>>> idea
>>> how good they are.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka
>>> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 1:41 PM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Learning .Net
>>>
>>> Not Oracle?  Yikes!  <grin>
>>>
>>> As an ardent fan of Access (especially Access 97), I must admit that
>>> knowledge in a server side database can come in real handy!  On a
> normal
>>> network, an .mdb solution works fine, but try using it over a VPN,
> and
>>> yikes.....
>>>
>>> Drew
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