jwcolby
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Mon Jun 29 08:19:37 CDT 2009
Boy is THAT well said. And that is the problem, Access is being gussified to sell it to the masses, not fixed to sell it to business who use it. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com Max Wanadoo wrote: > William: > > Thanks for that link. > > Everybody (most all, anyway) keep referring to new FEATURES. I am more > interested in BENEFITS. Any sales person will tell you that to make a sale > you have to show the customer/client what BENEFITS the new features will > bring to his business. > > IMO, features are useful to make initial sales to those who only have a > "general feel for what they want and *think* that the list of benefits will > do the job". It is also useful for more experienced people who think that > their business strategy will sit well with the new look/feel and will be > moving their product onto the new platform. For the Business Client who is > paying for a developed package and who probably never touches a computer > apart from letters and emails, the database driven backend is completely > immaterial. This type of client is only concerned with run-times, > throughput and output. He does not want his staff to sit there "playing' > with the features. He wants them to do what he is paying them to do. > > Unless BENEFITS are open, obvious and cost-effective they are meaningless to > developers. They cannot be leveraged on their existing business model > because they do not deliver anything that can be passed on to the client and > for which the client is willing to pay. > > IMO > > Max > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman > Sent: 29 June 2009 10:01 > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll on Access 2007 > > Shamil > > http://blogs.msdn.com/access/archive/tags/Access+14/default.aspx > > ...that's the Access 14 team manager's blog. > > William > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru> > Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:41 AM > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll on Access 2007 > >> Hi Steve, >> >> I have heard there are should be many new features in MS Access 2010 - is >> that information on "What's new in MS Access 2010" already available >> somewhere? >> >> Don't take "attacks" on your opinion on MS Access 2007 pros&cons too close >> to yourself - such "attacks" is a usual way to discuss "hot" topics here - >> welcome to the club! :) >> >> As for MS listening or not to MS Access (VBA) developers: they are >> listening >> I think but they apply a strong "noise filter" on what they hear - and >> that >> filter does very probably filter out many things advanced MS Access (VBA) >> developers urge for but MS finds them to be irrelevant to their own >> business... >> >> Microsoft do you hear me? :) >> >> Thank you. >> >> -- >> Shamil >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Schapel >> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 5:28 AM >> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll on Access 2007 >> >> Darryl, >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Darryl Collins" <Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au> >> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 12:31 PM >> >>> ... I hope you are backing the right horse here Steve. >> Thanks very much for your comments. As you know, we are rapidly >> approaching >> >> the release of the next version. Access 2007 was always going to be an >> interim measure, as a step moving towards new paradigms. I will have a >> better idea whether I'm backing the right horse after we have built some >> Access 2010 apps. >> >>> MS Access has been on the edge before and I think it is now again. >> Ever since I first started using Access in 1994, there have been vehement >> claims in one quarter or another that Access is dead, Microsoft is >> dropping >> Access, X and Y are better than Access, etc. I don't know about "on the >> edge", but really a turning point. What I think will happen is that those >> who abandon Access because of the new directions, will be replaced by >> others >> >> who embrace it and move forward with it. >> >> If you're one of those who moves to other technologies, I understand the >> reasons, and have no criticism, and I hope there is nothing I have said to >> imply otherwise. I wish you well with that. But for me, at this stage it >> looks like I will be sticking with Access for the long haul. >> >> -- >> Regards >> Steve >> >> >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature >> database 4194 (20090628) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.esetnod32.ru >> >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >