[AccessD] Scrum

Bill Patten bill_patten at embarqmail.com
Mon Mar 2 10:46:10 CST 2009


Hi John,

It was mentioned at the "hero" event that because of the value of VS2008 
Standard, MS would have had to provide 1099's had they just given it out. By 
making it a demo (1 Year) they did not.  It was also mentioned that their 
was no plan or method to enforce the time period.

Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 4:59 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scrum


I don't have professional version of either.  I have standard edition of 
both though the 2008 was
supposed to be limited to a year from when I got it, which Microsoft didn't 
disclose until AFTER I
attended their release party to get the copy.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Salakhetdinov Shamil wrote:
> Thank you, Doug,
>
> Now we have 5 team members! :)
>
> Gustav,
> Mike,
> John,
> Doug,
> Shamil
>
> And the team is complete for this first project as we plan to use 
> TargetProcess SCRUM/agile management softwarem which free community 
> edition has only five free licenses. I have got this edition already and I 
> plan to install it within this week on my ASP.NET hosting site (because I 
> do not have server side access to thsi ASP.NEt hosting site the 
> installation needs some manual work).
>
> The most urgent task now before we start is to get everybody the same VS 
> version if possible.
>
> In my opinion the best would be VS2008 Prof.
> If some of the team members will have VS2005 Prof. that would be still OK 
> but with some issues in sharing sources prepared using different VS 
> version.
>
> If VS2005 and VS2008 Standard Edition compile well the following sample 
> solutions
>
> http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/download/scrum/nwnet.zip (~400KB)
>
> and allow to use .NET ReportViewer control in design mode they also 
> qualify as development evnironment.
>
> If C#2008 Express Edition allow to use .NET ReportViewer control in design 
> mode - it will also quialify.
>
> The current version of sample solution referred above do have class 
> library, which according to William's info do not compile under C# 2008 
> Express edition - the solution of this issue could be:
>
> - compile classlib dlls under VS2005 or VS2006 Professional edition and 
> give that compiled DLLs to the team memebrs with C# 2008 Express to use. 
> The DLLs promise to be stable, and every library code team members with C# 
> 2008 Express will create can be first put by them into their FE project 
> and then moved into class lib. - some trouble but not that much - it can 
> be handled. (The areferred above sample solution does have this classlib 
> dll in \Bin subfolder)
>
> Of course the best would be all of us to get alighed with VS2005 or VS2008 
> Professional (or Standard if it works well with the above sample 
> projects).
>
> I have both installed on one PC - VS2008 installs just fine on the same PC 
> where VS2005 is installed (VS2008 needs quite some space to be installed 
> but installation works smoothly. AFAIKR I have tested also VS2008 Prof. 
> installation under VNWare and it worked OK).
>
> Could that be that some AccessD members have some not used VS2008 Prof. 
> licenses to share? - I mean the minimal MS Partner MSDN subscription 
> usually have 5 licenses and some can be shared if not used? Am I wrong? (I 
> have got my VS2008 Prof. license form my friend/partner who might have 
> another not used VS2008 Prof. license - I will check)...
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Shamil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Doug Murphy" <dw-murphy at cox.net>
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem 
> solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:34:21 -0800
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scrum
>
>> OK, I signed into Shamil's site. By play I ment participate. I have 
>> VS2008
>> on my development machine. Not sure I have a full install of 2005. There 
>> is
>> enough to support SQL Server reports. My hope here is to learn from all 
>> of
>> the participants while hopefully contributing.
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 10:44 AM
>> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scrum
>>
>> Hi Doug
>>
>> Great! Sounds indeed as you can "play" as you call it!
>> So please go ahead and sign up at Shamil's site:
>>
>>   http://shamils-4.hosting.parking.ru/dnn49
>>
>> /gustav
>>
>>
>>>>> dw-murphy at cox.net 01-03-2009 18:58:58 >>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I have been working some with VS2008 in ASP.NET and a few small VB.NET
>> WinForms apps. I would like to work with you on this as I have been 
>> looking
>> at VS as a good database front end environment as Microsoft moves office
>> further away from what I think most business need for their application. 
>> I
>> see this as a good learning excercise.
>>
>> Let me know if I can play, help or lurk.
>>
>> Doug
>>
>>
>>
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