[AccessD] Scrum

Bill Patten bill_patten at embarqmail.com
Mon Mar 2 11:51:06 CST 2009


As far as I know, of course no one at the events could officially state that 
it would not be enforced but that was the impression I got.

Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scrum


I assume that the same true for the version of Windows 2008 and SQL Server 
2008?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Bill Patten wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> It was mentioned at the "hero" event that because of the value of VS2008
> Standard, MS would have had to provide 1099's had they just given it out. 
> By
> making it a demo (1 Year) they did not.  It was also mentioned that their
> was no plan or method to enforce the time period.
>
> Bill
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 4:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scrum
>
>
> I don't have professional version of either.  I have standard edition of
> both though the 2008 was
> supposed to be limited to a year from when I got it, which Microsoft 
> didn't
> disclose until AFTER I
> attended their release party to get the copy.
>
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>
>
> Salakhetdinov Shamil wrote:
>> Thank you, Doug,
>>
>> Now we have 5 team members! :)
>>
>> Gustav,
>> Mike,
>> John,
>> Doug,
>> Shamil
>>
>> And the team is complete for this first project as we plan to use
>> TargetProcess SCRUM/agile management softwarem which free community
>> edition has only five free licenses. I have got this edition already and 
>> I
>> plan to install it within this week on my ASP.NET hosting site (because I
>> do not have server side access to thsi ASP.NEt hosting site the
>> installation needs some manual work).
>>
>> The most urgent task now before we start is to get everybody the same VS
>> version if possible.
>>
>> In my opinion the best would be VS2008 Prof.
>> If some of the team members will have VS2005 Prof. that would be still OK
>> but with some issues in sharing sources prepared using different VS
>> version.
>>
>> If VS2005 and VS2008 Standard Edition compile well the following sample
>> solutions
>>
>> http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/download/scrum/nwnet.zip (~400KB)
>>
>> and allow to use .NET ReportViewer control in design mode they also
>> qualify as development evnironment.
>>
>> If C#2008 Express Edition allow to use .NET ReportViewer control in 
>> design
>> mode - it will also quialify.
>>
>> The current version of sample solution referred above do have class
>> library, which according to William's info do not compile under C# 2008
>> Express edition - the solution of this issue could be:
>>
>> - compile classlib dlls under VS2005 or VS2006 Professional edition and
>> give that compiled DLLs to the team memebrs with C# 2008 Express to use.
>> The DLLs promise to be stable, and every library code team members with 
>> C#
>> 2008 Express will create can be first put by them into their FE project
>> and then moved into class lib. - some trouble but not that much - it can
>> be handled. (The areferred above sample solution does have this classlib
>> dll in \Bin subfolder)
>>
>> Of course the best would be all of us to get alighed with VS2005 or 
>> VS2008
>> Professional (or Standard if it works well with the above sample
>> projects).
>>
>> I have both installed on one PC - VS2008 installs just fine on the same 
>> PC
>> where VS2005 is installed (VS2008 needs quite some space to be installed
>> but installation works smoothly. AFAIKR I have tested also VS2008 Prof.
>> installation under VNWare and it worked OK).
>>
>> Could that be that some AccessD members have some not used VS2008 Prof.
>> licenses to share? - I mean the minimal MS Partner MSDN subscription
>> usually have 5 licenses and some can be shared if not used? Am I wrong? 
>> (I
>> have got my VS2008 Prof. license form my friend/partner who might have
>> another not used VS2008 Prof. license - I will check)...
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> --
>> Shamil
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Doug Murphy" <dw-murphy at cox.net>
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem
>> solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:34:21 -0800
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scrum
>>
>>> OK, I signed into Shamil's site. By play I ment participate. I have
>>> VS2008
>>> on my development machine. Not sure I have a full install of 2005. There
>>> is
>>> enough to support SQL Server reports. My hope here is to learn from all
>>> of
>>> the participants while hopefully contributing.
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 10:44 AM
>>> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scrum
>>>
>>> Hi Doug
>>>
>>> Great! Sounds indeed as you can "play" as you call it!
>>> So please go ahead and sign up at Shamil's site:
>>>
>>>   http://shamils-4.hosting.parking.ru/dnn49
>>>
>>> /gustav
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> dw-murphy at cox.net 01-03-2009 18:58:58 >>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> I have been working some with VS2008 in ASP.NET and a few small VB.NET
>>> WinForms apps. I would like to work with you on this as I have been
>>> looking
>>> at VS as a good database front end environment as Microsoft moves office
>>> further away from what I think most business need for their application.
>>> I
>>> see this as a good learning excercise.
>>>
>>> Let me know if I can play, help or lurk.
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>>
>>>
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