[AccessD] FMS Article on the new features in Access 2007

Max Wanadoo max.wanadoo at gmail.com
Thu Mar 19 17:23:13 CDT 2009


>but my memory is fuzzy on that item.

That would be age - right?  (Ducks and runs)

Max
ps. The people who want applications without programming are probably the
same ones who want Table Level access in Acces..



On 3/19/09, Charlotte Foust <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> wrote:
>
> It's more than possible.  Access has always been pitched to power users,
> from 1.0, but people fell in love with it and found it so much nicer to use
> and work with than dBase or Paradox, that they switched over and started
> developing in Access.  Remember PCs were still somewhat infantile then and I
> don't think even Microsoft ever expected Access to grow into the development
> tool it became.  I think that was in the QBasic days, but my memory is fuzzy
> on that item.
>
>
> Charlotte Foust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com
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> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMS Article on the new features in Access 2007
>
> I would expand that to the office suite, not just Access.  Is it possible
> Access was never intended to be the development tool it became, but just a
> power user application.  Now they are trying to reel it back in and move us
> to .net?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David McAfee
> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:19 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMS Article on the new features in Access 2007
>
> I'll Just wait for the next version.
>
> It used to be every other version of Access was not that great. I think
> something got out of Sync.
>
> 1 -Never used it
> 2 - Good
> 95 - Bleh, hurl, <dry heave noise>
> 97 - My favorite
> 2000 - I liked it, but I think it wasnt well liked
> 2002 (Office XP) I never really used it
> 2003 - Like it
> 2007 - more dry heaving noises
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Max Wanadoo <max.wanadoo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > With the single exception of the Datasheet Totals, there is nothing
> > fundamental,y improved for me as a developer.   The quote "..get  used
> > to it.." made me spit.  I can get used to anything, but why have all
> > these new ways of doing what is essentially the same.  Lots of "stuff"
> > is worse - David points them out below.
> > For me, I abhor the 2007.  No "fundamental" improvements - with this
> > "update", beauty is not even skin deep.
> >
> > Max
> >
> >
> > On 3/19/09, David McAfee <davidmcafee at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I agree with him on these A2007 problems:
> >>
> >> Not being able to see a list of object sorted by modified date the
> >> way you'd expect in Windows Explorer.
> >>
> >> Losing Alt+D as a way to put the current object in design mode
> >>
> >> Losing the toolbar item to automatically jump to a form or report's
> >> module code
> >>
> >> Missing right mouse click items like import/export
> >>
> >> As for the Ribbon, I don't like the "Once you get used to it, its not
> >> that bad" that I hear quite often.
> >> I don't feel so many command/tol bar buttons need to be seen. As a
> >> programer, I feel I need to know what the user needs to have
> >> available to them, If they do need something that can navigate view
> >> the menus (oops, they removed them!).
> >>
> >> "Overcoming Resistance to Change
> >>
> >> For years, the Access community complained that Microsoft was
> >> abandoning Access, that they didn't invest enough in it, that the Jet
> >> Engine and DAO was dead, etc. Well, the Microsoft Access development
> >> team for Access 2007 was the largest ever and Microsoft made a huge
> >> investment that added considerable new features to Access."
> >>
> >> I never really requested change. I hoped that they wouldn't abandon
> >> Access, like was always rumored.
> >>
> >> There are a few new cool features, but they never fixed some old bugs
> >> that still go back to early versions of Access.
> >>
> >> They still haven't made a list box with .fontcolor or
> >> .selectedrowBackColor property.
> >>
> >> The datasheet totals are cool, but I should provide that for my users
> >> in their form. Remember, users shouldnt be accessing the
> >> tables/queries directly.
> >>
> >> "In Access 2007, a different approach is necessary for finding your
> >> object. Rather than visually finding it, enter some letters of the
> >> object name in the Search Bar, and the list of objects gets filtered
> >> to just those names. This makes it very easy to find objects by name
> >> -- especially text within an object name -- that wasn't possible
> >> before. Once you are used to this, it's very difficult to go back."
> >>
> >> Nah, give me my detail view. The ability to sort by Name and or date
> >> is more important to me. My naming conventions is another way for me
> >> to quickly find what I need.
> >>
> >> The Date picker is nice, but is there a way to turn it off? THey may
> >> be times where you don't want it to be displayed, or use your own
> >> instead.
> >>
> >> Just my worthless 2 cents,
> >> David
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:04 PM, <rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I just thought I'd throw this out there and see everyone thinks.
> >> >
> >> > http://www.fmsinc.com/MicrosoftAccess/2007/Top-Features.html
> >> > <http://www.fmsinc.com/MicrosoftAccess/2007/Top-Features.html>
> >> >
> >> > It does sound like there are some nice new features.  Whether they
> >> outweigh
> >> > the drawbacks...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Rusty Hammond
> >> >
> >> >
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