[AccessD] Access/SQL

William Hindman wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com
Sat Nov 14 20:23:23 CST 2009


...when I went to school, the "future" (according to the profs) was Fortran 
and COBOL ...and I'm not THAT old :)

...Java is almost as old as your son, by the time he graduates it'll be in 
steep decline ...IBM is buying Sun, the evangelist behind Java ...but they 
want Sun's mainframe and workstation business, thus the continued financial 
evangelization of Java is almost certainly dead ...dot net is the immediate 
future and as others have mentioned, it really doesn't matter which language 
you use it with ...supposedly MS is even going to support Linux on it 
...lots of heartburn in the geek world if MS turns out to be the first 
successful platform independent software provider.

William

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From: "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 8:28 PM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access/SQL

> Sheesh!! You gotta be multi-lingual?
>
> I think I'll urge him to do something simpler and easier.  Like nuclear
> physics or brain surgery.
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil
> Salakhetdinov
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 5:09 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access/SQL
>
> <<<
> But what should he learn for the future?
>>>>
> JAVA, JavaScript, C#, Ruby, C/C++, Assembler, HTML, CSS...
>
> Maybe he should better start/switch to C/C+ and Assembler - then the other
> languages from the above list will be relatively easy to learn and use for
> him...
>
> <<<
> What's going to be the platform du jour in 5 years? 10 years?
>>>>
> No idea.
>
> --
> Shamil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 3:04 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access/SQL
>
> Well, I'm so happy I waited to learn VB.NET.  It died while I was waiting.
> One vote for the procrastinators.
>
> My kid is 13.  He's heavy into JAVA now.  But what should he learn for the
> future?  What's going to be the platform du jour in 5 years? 10 years?
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil
> Salakhetdinov
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 1:30 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access/SQL
>
> Mark,
>
> VB.Net is OK.
> I can use both C# and VB.NET interchangeably as many .NET developers do.
> But I do prefer C#.
> Nowadays in my development I'm using 99.99% of the time C# (for several
> years now).
> There are also F#, IronPython and IronRuby, which can be used on .NET
> development platform...
> Even more programming languages will come to .NET platform in the 
> future...
>
> Even Fortran can be used within .NET -
> http://www.codeproject.com/KB/net-languages/intro_fortran.aspx AFAIHF...
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Shamil
>
> P.S. I'd guess "new powerful webdev platform" uses C# by default but you 
> can
> always switch to VB.NET or use both...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Simms
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 11:59 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access/SQL
>
> VB.NET is dead, dead, dead.
> Everyone has moved to C#...much more elegant.
> On Microsoft's new, most powerful webdev platform one can only use C#.
> Recent stat from DICE.COM: 68 VB.NET openings vs. 162 C# 
> openings....almost
> 3:1 !!!
>
> Note: Even John Colby has moved over to C#.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil
>> Salakhetdinov
>> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 1:36 PM
>> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access/SQL
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> IMO C# + .NET Framework is the best ever general purpose development
>> platform for business applications.
>>
>> I'm talking from my experience in development of business applications
>> using PL/1, COBOL, Fortran (Fortran-77), Pascal, Delphi, C/C++,
>> DataFlex, VBA, VB6, VB.NET, C#...
>>
>> One with good VB6/VBA development experience can start developing
>> VB.NET business apps the next day/week provided they will get proper
>> guidelines/help/tutoring...
>>
>> I have such examples as e.g. when I have got advanced MS Excel COM
>> Add-in and converted it (just starting using VB.NET this day) to a
>> VB.NET one within three days (10,000+ code
>> lines) - it's nothing special - most of experienced VB6/VBA developers
>> can do that.
>>
>> --
>> Shamil
>
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