[AccessD] OT: Virtual PC 2007 (MS), CITRIX XenServer, CITRIX HDX...

Drew Wutka DWUTKA at Marlow.com
Tue Sep 22 09:59:16 CDT 2009


MS product.  It's called Virtual Server 2005.  (There is a newer version
out, but it's not free, AFAIK)

Drew

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 5:17 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Virtual PC 2007 (MS), CITRIX XenServer,
CITRIX HDX...

By "Virtual server" are you referring to a VMWare product or a MS
product?  they both have something 
of this nature.

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


Drew Wutka wrote:
> Hmmmm, first, you can accomplish 1, 2, and the first part of 3 simply
> with Virtual Server 2005.  It's FREE, and compatible with Virtual PC
> 2007.  (By compatible, you can create a VM in Virtual PC 2007, shut it
> down, copy the .vhd hard drive file to a location where your virtual
> server can use it, and then create a new VM in Virtual Server 2005
using
> that hard drive.)
> 
> Virtual Server machines run in the back ground, not directly on your
> machine. But Virtual Server is also WAY better at running multiple
> machines.  Virtual PC runs EVERYTHING in one thread, so if you have 3
> machines running, you are running them all within one thread.  With
> Virtual server, each virtual machine (that is running), runs in it's
own
> thread.  Virtual Server has two 'interfaces'  There is a web interface
> (which is the default interface). This lets you control the entire
> system, and control an individual VM through an ActiveX control.
There
> is also a VM something or other that let's you 'connect' to a running
VM
> (and this too can be run from another machine (you just install that
> portion of Virtual Server 2005 on the client machine you want to use
> that utility on).  That interface, however, doesn't let you make
changes
> to anything in the system, just offers a method of actually
interfacing
> with the VM itself.
> 
> There is also VMRCplus (version 1.8.0.0).  It's a free utility that
uses
> Virtual Server's scripting capabilities to give you a handy method of
> controlling both the server and all the VM's.  The only issue I have
had
> with this utility, is that it MUST be run on a standard LAN (100
megabit
> or better).  Running it through a VPN connection (behind a T1 (1.5
> megabit) connection) it won't work...it is just pulling too much
> information down to ever allow you to do anything.
> 
> Virtual Machines can also be setup to turn on automatically with the
> machine (and either shutdown or pause when the host machine shuts
down),
> and with the scripting stuff, you can do practically anything you want
> (including shutting a machine down in order to backup it's .vhd file)
> 
> Drew
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil
> Salakhetdinov
> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 3:43 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: [AccessD] OT: Virtual PC 2007 (MS), CITRIX XenServer, CITRIX
> HDX...
> 
> Hi All,
> 
>  
> 
> Sorry for off-topic but I expect the subject would be interesting for
> many
> developers here, and I do expect some of you do use such a
configuration
> of
> computers systems I'm considering here to create.
> 
>  
> 
> Plan: 
> 
>  
> 
> I wanted to have:
> 
>  
> 
> 1)      Several virtual PCs (VPCs), which can be kept and loaded from
a
> common local/Internet store with minimal overheads;
> 
> 2)      When loaded and started I wanted to access VPCs from real
> desktop on
> PC they are running as well as via a virtual desktop from other
systems
> running in my LAN as well as from Internet assuming my running VPCs
will
> be
> seen from there (I will get static IP(s) and my main ISP has a
broadband
> connection to my home/office, which I'm using here every day );
> 
> 3)      I also wanted the data from some of my VPCs/physical systems
> backed-up automatically (on schedule) not only locally but also
> somewhere on
> Internet;
> 
> 4)      When out of home/office for a long period of time, and having
my
> physical systems shut down I wanted to have (some of) my VPCs moved to
> an
> Internet VPS hosting to use them from anywhere in this world.
> 
>  
> 
> As far I currently understand:
> 
>  
> 
>  (1) -  can be done using CITRIX XenServer
>
(http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=683148
> ), 
> 
>  (2) - using CITRIX HDX technology
> (http://community.citrix.com/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=79463606),
> 
>  (3) - using e.g. Amazon S3 Services
> (http://aws.amazon.com/s3/#functionality ), and
> 
>  (4) - using e.g. Triple8 VPSs (http://www.triple8.net/vps.htm )
> 
>  
> 
> Question: Does anybody use/plan to use the above technologies in the
> near
> future? If you do use them what are your experience - I'm especially
> interested to hear about real life experience of using
VS2005/2008/2010
> development for Visual Studio running on an Internet-located  VPS
> (Virtual
> Private Server), and accessed via Virtual Desktop (CITRIX HDX) from
Web
> Browser. running on Windows Mobile powered SmartPhone J Well, I'm
> kidding
> about the latter  "SmartPhone VS development" but I do wanted to know
> about
> real life experience of using VS development via Virtual Desktop
driven
> by
> CITRIX HDX.
> 
>  
> 
> Please correct me if I'm wrong and advise what are the better
> technologies
> in your opinion to apply for and fulfill my plan.
> 
>  
> 
> Thank you.
> 
>  
> 
> --
> 
> Shamil  
> 
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