[AccessD] Email problem. Again

Max Wanadoo max.wanadoo at gmail.com
Mon Mar 1 15:12:08 CST 2010


Then print them from the client as  per normal.  Regardless  of how they
transit  through the internet, they  will arrive in your law firm's inbox
and outgoing will originate from there too.

Routing through googlemail wont affect that one way or the other.  With your
CDO you are using Microsoft credentials.  All I am saying is use Google's.

At my charity, ALL emails are re-directed to googlemail and we auto-download
from there.  We hardly ever, ever get spam and because we tell google to
retain a  copy, then we have an archive for everybody - nobody can delete an
email and pretend they never got it because there is a copy on google.

Think  outside the box.  Make it work for your needs.

Max
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: 01 March 2010 20:38
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email problem. Again

Law firm - they want copies of all emails coming and going and they want it
in-house. 

R
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 12:24 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email problem. Again

Why is that a problem. Google lets you have as many as you want.

Rocky.client1name at goolemail.com
Rocky.client2name at goolemail.com
Rocky.client3name at goolemail.com

You can even take out a business solution from them with Google docs etc,
etc.  Google gives you tons of  stuff that MS does not.

Etc.

Max

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: 01 March 2010 20:17
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email problem. Again

Yeah, but it's not for me - it's for a client and then he's going to try to
resell the app to others.  So it has to be pretty general case. 

r 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 11:43 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email problem. Again


Well, you could always open a Gmail account with Google called
Rocky.Clients at googlemail.com and then use  their smtp  to send out your
client emails.  You could  also  use  it to handle their emails  to you.

Max
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: 01 March 2010 19:38
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email problem. Again

Dan,

  I've used the vbSendMail.DLL for many years, but Rocky will still have the
same issues that he has with CDO; that is you need to know the SMTP server,
you need and account and password, and you need to know how it wants to
authenticate.

  vbSendMail does have some code to support finding the SMTP server via the
DNS MX record, but it still won't help if you don't have an account to
authenticate with nor know how the server wants to. Unfortunately, the days
of open SMTP servers that will accept mail from anyone are gone.

  The only issue with CDO is that there are different CDO libs, but most of
those have retired by now (NT4 was different then 2000, etc).  Other then
that, it's similar to vbSendMail in terms of functionality.  However you are
relying on something being installed on the client as you would be with
Outlook.

  Like you, I've found vbSendMail easy to use and it works as a drop in even
though it reads as VB 6.0.  I even wrote a class wrapper for it because it
had too many options for most of what I do with mail, which worked fine.

  Haven't used IPWorks, but I believe it's Gustav that likes it a lot.

Jim.

  

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 1:25 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Email problem. Again

Hi Rocky,

Go to http://www.freevbcode.com/ShowCode.Asp?ID=109 to download this
application and .dll.

This includes an application form where you can enter all your info and send
an email.  After you register the files vbSendMail.dll and mswinsck.ocx, and
then the email doesn't go, then it's a network issue.

I've also converted this to use with Access, and it's completely reliable.

Good luck!
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 10:32 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Email problem. Again

Dear List:

Couple years ago I got a lead here on how to automatically send emails with
reports attached from an app for one of my clients client - a patent
attorney who needs to send regular reports to all his clients.  I ended up
with a routine I got from a link called SendSMTPMail which requires a
reference to Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 library.  

It requires that you pass to the routine the mail server name, user name,
password, and port.  

And it worked for many months.  Then it stopped.  It works on my machine
with my personal but at their site, where they're using Exchange server,
something may have changed.  Who knows?  We had a session with their network
guy but couldn't get it to work.  

OTOH, I had the client try the routine at home on his laptop using his
personal account and he reported that it failed.  Now I don't know for sure
what parameters he passed to the SendSMTPMail routine so I don't know if
they were the right ones.  But if he has the right ones, and it failed on
his personal account, then that might point to the CDO? But that's been the
same (AFAIK) since day 1.

In any event, 2 questions:

1) any ideas why this would stop working?

2) is there a more "moderne" approach to this sending of emails?  He and I
discussed using the Outlook object - I've got that code in other apps, but
since he has ambitions to resell this system to other law firms, it should
be independent of Outlook.

MTIA

Rocky Smolin

Beach Access Software

858-259-4334

www.e-z-mrp.com <http://www.e-z-mrp.com/> 

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