[AccessD] Advice on A2010....

Charlotte Foust charlotte.foust at gmail.com
Thu Dec 8 15:29:21 CST 2011


Copies of the form are full copies with the same limits.  The control count
is part of the properties of the form, so importing it doesn't change a
thing.  You can create a new form and copy the controls to it but then you
have to go through replacing the old form with the new one.
Charlotte Foust
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Heenan, Lambert <
Lambert.Heenan at chartisinsurance.com> wrote:

> Jim,
>
> Regarding the (crazy) form control limit. Do you know if the count gets
> reset if you make a copy of the form? Does the new copy have a controls
> count equal to the number of controls currently on the form? What about
> importing the form into another MDB file?
>
> Just curious, I've not yet hit that limit.
>
> Lambert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:
> accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 11:50 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Advice on A2010....
>
>
>  Couple of comments:
>
> 1. In regards to Doug's comments on connections, you really should only
> have one with DAO as long as your not using Opendatabase.  Always using
> currentdb(), will use the same connection.  Don't see where your bumping
> into the 255 user limit there.
>
> 2. Access is limited to 2048 table ID's open at one time.  A table ID is
> used for every table and field reference.  A form with 37 tabs is huge and
> I would guess that's what your running into.
>
> 3. Access is limited to 754 controls over the life of a form, so watch how
> big you get (note the limit is not 754 - deleting and creating a control
> does not decrement/increment the count, it only increments it).  Surprised
> you didn't run into that one.
>
> 4. If your working in ADO, make sure you use CurrentProject.Connection
> This is Access/Jet's ADO connection for the DB you opened and as long as
> you use it, you'll show up as only one user.  If you open your open ADO
> connections, each will count as a user (when opened together) and will
> count towards the 255 limit.
>
> HTH,
> Jim.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins
> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 06:33 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> (accessd at databaseadvisors.com)
> Subject: [AccessD] Advice on A2010....
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Boy, A2010 does some weird stuff.
>
> I have an accdb database. It is on my local drive, it is only me who uses
> it, it is only me who can access it.  It has DAO code it uses to do stuff
> with recordsets within the currentDB only.  There are no external
> connections. There is no BE / FE setup (doesn't need it).  This database is
> tiny (about 7 MB) - doesn't have a lot of data or really do any heavy
> processing at all - basic stuff.
>
> The only thing that is unusual for me is I have one main form, which has
> 37 tabs on it which in turn has listboxes and subforms - and the subforms
> are bound to their tables - I would usually use unbound, but in this case
> there is no point.  Besides they are all really small datasets.
>
> For weeks this has worked pretty well - then suddenly I started getting an
> error when trying to make design changes "Not opened in Exclusive mode -
> another user is using the database - can't save changes" was the gist of it.
> Now how can that happen?  There was some suggestion from Google search
> that it maybe one of the DAO recordsets was being left opened and thus
> Access thinks there is a open connection and thus another user(?).  I
> double checked I was closing all RS and setting them to nothing when I
> finished with them.
>
> Nothing seemed to work.  After much poking around on Google I found this
> piece of code and added it.  It seems to have helped, but I am not sure if
> that is just co-incidence or not.  I had done a few tweaks and rebuild a
> couple of modules so hard to say:
>
> "'Initiate Passive Shutdown - do not allow new Users
> CurrentProject.Connection.Properties("Jet OLEDB:Connection Control") = 1"
>
> This is meant to force access to reject any new users to the database.  I
> wish I could say with confidence that this was what fixed it. I guess I
> could comment out the code and do some tests, but right now, after losing
> two days, I am just wanting to catch up on the days I have lost.
>
> The other weird issue I get at some point when using this database is "You
> don't have enough resources to perform the operation".  WTF? Again this
> will fail on doing something low impact and simple.  It is like Access hit
> some sort of limit (again maybe open connections via DAO.Recordset(?) -
> this is where it usually fails when using code to update stuff via DAO).
>  But all the DAO connections are all being closed in the code - and usually
> only 1 is open at any one time (a max of 3 in a couple of modules) and they
> are all set to nothing once I have finished with them.  Besides they are
> also doing bugger all work.  Maybe updating 10 records out of a total of 50
> - that sort of thing.  What 'resources' could possibly be being exhausted
> with that sort of workload?  A restart of the app will usually fix the
> problem, but what is going here?
>
> Has anyone else had these issues, and any ideas on what to do about them?
>
> Cheers
> Darryl.
>
> Darryl Collins
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