[AccessD] Conditional keep together

Debbie delam at zyterra.com
Thu Jan 20 15:31:38 CST 2011


Correct

Debbie

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On Jan 20, 2011, at 3:16 PM, "Boyd Trimmell" <accesscoach at hitechcoach.com 
 > wrote:

> Debbie,
>
> Ah... so it is OK to have more than one group on a page.  You just  
> don't
> want a group to span multiple pages if possible.  Is that correct?
>
>
> Boyd Trimmell
> aka HiTechCoach at UtterAccess.com and other support sites
> Microsoft Access MVP 2010 ( MVP Profile )
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Debbie
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 2:59 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Conditional keep together
>
> Hmm. The customer might go for that as an alternate to keeping the  
> sections
> together. I think I may even have some code that will give me similar
> results, not just start every section on a new page.
>
> Thanks for taking me on a new track here. This has possibilities.
>
> Debbie
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 20, 2011, at 2:52 PM, "Boyd Trimmell" <accesscoach at hitechcoach.com 
>   >
> wrote:
>
>> Debbie,
>>
>> With the keep together property set to no, have you tried setting the
>> it to start  on a  new page for each group?
>>
>> Boyd Trimmell
>> aka HiTechCoach at UtterAccess.com and other support sites Microsoft
>> Access MVP 2010 ( MVP Profile )
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Debbie
>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 2:43 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Conditional keep together
>>
>> The section starts printing on the first page and continues to page  
>> 2.
>> Subsequent groups may get split over 2 pages though and is not what
>> the customer wants.
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 2:03 PM, "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What happens if you set the section to Keep Together with First
>>> Record?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Debbie
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:02 AM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Conditional keep together
>>>
>>> Section or header both crash. I get this program has encountered an
>>> unexpected error and has to close. It backs up. Repairs and compacts
>>> and restarts every time I put it in any type of format event.
>>>
>>> Debbie
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 11:47 AM, "Rocky Smolin"  
>>> <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On format of the report or the header or the footer section? What
>>>> kind of crash?
>>>>
>>>> R
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Debbie
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 8:40 AM
>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Conditional keep together
>>>>
>>>> I started to put a conditional keep together in code on format.  
>>>> This
>>>> actually crashes Access. Only in the on open event will it work.
>>>>
>>>> I have started experimenting with adding a conditional page  
>>>> break. I
>>>> can get it to work only when I want, but the records still start on
>>>> page 2.
>>>> I just
>>>> get a page break in the middle of page 2 rather than moving the
>>>> first part of the records to page 1
>>>>
>>>> Debbie
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 9:21 AM, "Rocky Smolin"  
>>>> <rockysmolin at bchacc.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is it a function of how many records there are in the group?  I
>>>>> wouldn't want to hard code a test for a specific data value if I
>>>>> could avoid it.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can, of course, set the keep together property through code,
>>>>> but the question is where to do it?
>>>>>
>>>>> I've never tried this but I'd experiment with the Format event of
>>>>> the group header.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rocky
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Debbie
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 6:48 AM
>>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>>> Subject: [AccessD] Conditional keep together
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a report with 2 grouping levels. The first group is keep
>>>>> together with first record and the second is keep all records
>>>>> together on one page.
>>>>> 99.9% of the time this is perfect.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I have the situation where my first keep all records together
>>>>> group fits perfectly on a page all by itself. This means I have a
>>>>> report header, further group header, then a page break. Not until
>>>>> page
>>>>> 2 do I see this first set of detail records because if the keep
>>>>> together.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not want to set this to keep with first record just to cover
>>>>> this one instance with one user, but I have to admit it is pretty
>>>>> awful.
>>>>> Is
>>>>> there any way to determine that this has happened ahead of time  
>>>>> and
>>>>> reset the keep together property?  Better yet only reset it on the
>>>>> group having problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can set the keep together, but only on open. By the time I can
>>>>> tell if it is needed, my window of opportunity is lost and I am
>>>>> better off just setting this group to keep together with first
>>>>> record and just be dine with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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