[AccessD] Access and SQL Server

LOL.  Yep, and the strange part of that whole thread is that I have studied all that stuff, though 
not necessarily all of it in a classroom.  I know tuple and relation but it simply isn't used 
anywhere in the (non-academic) world so why cling to it?  All it appears to do is provide a false 
sense of superiority.

If you happen to work at a university and need to discuss these terms on a daily basis with an 80 
year old professor who learned that stuff and refuses to use modern terms, then I guess they would 
be relevant.

;)

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com

On 3/18/2011 3:55 PM, Drew Wutka wrote:
> "I am happy you like it but I have never actually uttered the word tuple
> in my life, it makes no
> difference to me.  I get along just fine with tables, rows and fields.
> I understand what goes in
> each of those things.  It is second nature (and trivial) to normalize to
> 3rd normal.  I have read
> many though not all of the rest of the 16 normal forms and understood
> (at the time I read it) *some*
> of them.  Most seemed oh so esoteric." -- JWC	
>
> LOL.  I'm sure I told this story before, but about a decade ago, when I
> started working for my current employer, I started going back to
> college.  Took an MIS class (Managing Information Services).
>
> First day of the class, I was sitting in the back, here I am, 28 years
> old, with a bunch of people that probably couldn't order a beer.  The
> teacher starts going into the internet, and TCP/IP.  Just going over
> basic stuff.  He then goes over a very basic description of an IP
> address, and asks if anyone knew why each quad of an IP address had
> values from only 0 to 255.  I looked around, no one was answering, so I
> raised my hand.  The professor called on me, and I said 'Because that's
> 8 bits, or a byte'.  Wow, the class looked at me like a herd of deer
> mesmerized by headlights! LOL.
>
> I never studied for any of the tests, and I don't remember if there was
> homework or not (I would have done the homework if there was some).  I
> always got an A on the tests.  This stuff was SOOO far below my level of
> understanding it wasn't funny, but it was a required course that I
> couldn't test out of.  On one of the tests the question was:
>
> What would a relational database developer refer to as a row of data?
>
> So here I am, taking this test, and employeed full time as a
> programmer/developer (with a relational database), and so I answered
> 'record' (I think it might have been row).  Tuple was in the list of
> answers, but honestly, I hadn't read that chapter in the book.
>
> So when I got my test back, it was the only question I had wrong, so I
> went and asked the instructor.  His response was basically 'the book
> answer is tuple'.  I had to laugh at that, because the book also
> described Widnows 95 and Windows 98 as 'different Operating Systems',
> which the teacher pointed out in class is 'technically' incorrect.
>
> Drew
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