[AccessD] New SQL Server license scheme is RADICALLLY more expensive

jwcolby jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Sat Nov 12 14:30:07 CST 2011


Fedora just hung showing the pretty submarine.  It can't shutdown, power down only.  Won't release 
the virtual cd so that I can install the tools.

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting

Reality is what refuses to go away
when you do not believe in it

On 11/12/2011 2:26 PM, jwcolby wrote:
> I am downloading 4 different distros. Every one claims to just fire up and go. We shall see. Of
> course getting MariaDb to go after that is one more thing to make happen.
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
>
> Reality is what refuses to go away
> when you do not believe in it
>
> On 11/12/2011 1:35 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
>> I'm afraid that I can't help you in this endeavour, John. It seems that
>> Oracle VirtualBox doesn't have the ability to inhale VMs from other sources
>> (I could be wrong, but if so, haven't yet figured out how to do it.) What I
>> do instead (in VirtualBox) is create a new VM, loading a CD with the
>> downloaded OS, and after that, VirtualBox takes care of everything: mounts
>> the OS, installs it as a VM, allocates the default space with Grow, etc.)
>>
>> Allegedly there is a way to use MS VM images, but I haven't got that far yet
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 11:47 AM, jwcolby<jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Arthur,
>>>
>>> Do you have a Linux distro that runs in a Hyper-V vm. Yea I know Hyper-V
>>> is MS but I made a switch to Hyper-V and it would be very disruptive to
>>> switch back. But I would like to get a vm up and running so I could play
>>> in MariaDB.
>>>
>>> Are there encapsulated VMs that I can just download and start as VMs in
>>> Hyper-V? I tried to get two different DISTROs running and failed both
>>> times.
>>>
>>>
>>> John W. Colby
>>> Colby Consulting
>>>
>>> Reality is what refuses to go away
>>> when you do not believe in it
>>>
>>> On 11/12/2011 11:11 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have moved to MySQL for medium-to-large DBs and to SQLite for small DBs.
>>>> See ya, BillG and SteveB. I'm gone, reluctantly so, since I have spent the
>>>> last dozen or so years mastering MS-SQL, which I now realize was a
>>>> complete
>>>> waste of time and energy. From now on, I'm going open-source solutions,
>>>> and
>>>> I'm about to bolt from the whole Windows "solution" in favour of Ubuntu
>>>> and|or Mint (a fork from Ubuntu). Currently I run both these OSs as VMs
>>>> inside Oracle/Sun VirtualBox. but I am about to flip the whole system so
>>>> the basic boot is into Ubuntu and any Windows/Access sessions will be
>>>> dealt
>>>> with in a VM.
>>>>
>>>> So long, Steve and Bill. It's been a slice, but I'm done with you guys.
>>>> You
>>>> don't make life better; you only make it more expensive. And as a
>>>> semi-retired person, expenses matter significantly.I just calculated
>>>> December and realized that at the end of the day (after rent, hydro, net
>>>> connection etc.) I have a whopping $15 left for the whole month of
>>>> December. Wow. Party hearty.
>>>>
>>>> Not that I'm complaining. Were it not for our alleged socialist
>>>> government,
>>>> I wouldn't receive so much as a dime; so I count myself in the set of
>>>> Lucky
>>>> MoFus.
>>>>
>>>> Arthur
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Mark Simms<marksimms at verizon.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> John - I think it's a poor strategy on Microsoft's part.
>>>>> IMHO: They should position themselves price-wise BETWEEN the
>>>>> ever-so-expensive Oracle and the ever-so-cheap MySQL.
>>>>> Instead, they appear to be moving towards trying to compete with
>>>>> Oracle...
>>>>> This is so "Balmer-like".
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: accessd-bounces@**databaseadvisors.com<accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com>[mailto:
>>>>>> accessd-
>>>>>> bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 9:27 AM
>>>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving; Sqlserver-Dba
>>>>>> Subject: [AccessD] New SQL Server license scheme is RADICALLLY more
>>>>>> expensive
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://sqlserverperformance.**wordpress.com/2011/11/10/sql-**
>>>>>> server-2012-<http://sqlserverperformance.wordpress.com/2011/11/10/sql-server-2012->
>>>>>> licensing-and-hardware-**considerations/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The full retail license cost per physical core is $6874.00 for SQL
>>>>>> Server 2012 Enterprise Edition.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I cannot imagine that there will not be a huge backlash about this from
>>>>>> clients and massive
>>>>>> switching to MySQL and the likes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know that I will never purchase SQL Server 2010.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Colby Consulting
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>>>>>> when you do not believe in it
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