[AccessD] New SQL Server license scheme is RADICALLLY more expensive

Arthur Fuller fuller.artful at gmail.com
Sat Nov 12 14:36:04 CST 2011


I was never a big fan of Fedora; same problems as you. Ubuntu and Mint are
my chosen paths.
A.

On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 3:30 PM, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>wrote:

> Fedora just hung showing the pretty submarine.  It can't shutdown, power
> down only.  Won't release the virtual cd so that I can install the tools.
>
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
>
> Reality is what refuses to go away
> when you do not believe in it
>
> On 11/12/2011 2:26 PM, jwcolby wrote:
>
>> I am downloading 4 different distros. Every one claims to just fire up
>> and go. We shall see. Of
>> course getting MariaDb to go after that is one more thing to make happen.
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> Colby Consulting
>>
>> Reality is what refuses to go away
>> when you do not believe in it
>>
>> On 11/12/2011 1:35 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> I'm afraid that I can't help you in this endeavour, John. It seems that
>>> Oracle VirtualBox doesn't have the ability to inhale VMs from other
>>> sources
>>> (I could be wrong, but if so, haven't yet figured out how to do it.)
>>> What I
>>> do instead (in VirtualBox) is create a new VM, loading a CD with the
>>> downloaded OS, and after that, VirtualBox takes care of everything:
>>> mounts
>>> the OS, installs it as a VM, allocates the default space with Grow, etc.)
>>>
>>> Allegedly there is a way to use MS VM images, but I haven't got that far
>>> yet
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 11:47 AM, jwcolby<jwcolby@**colbyconsulting.com<jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>>  Arthur,
>>>>
>>>> Do you have a Linux distro that runs in a Hyper-V vm. Yea I know Hyper-V
>>>> is MS but I made a switch to Hyper-V and it would be very disruptive to
>>>> switch back. But I would like to get a vm up and running so I could play
>>>> in MariaDB.
>>>>
>>>> Are there encapsulated VMs that I can just download and start as VMs in
>>>> Hyper-V? I tried to get two different DISTROs running and failed both
>>>> times.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John W. Colby
>>>> Colby Consulting
>>>>
>>>> Reality is what refuses to go away
>>>> when you do not believe in it
>>>>
>>>> On 11/12/2011 11:11 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  I have moved to MySQL for medium-to-large DBs and to SQLite for small
>>>>> DBs.
>>>>> See ya, BillG and SteveB. I'm gone, reluctantly so, since I have spent
>>>>> the
>>>>> last dozen or so years mastering MS-SQL, which I now realize was a
>>>>> complete
>>>>> waste of time and energy. From now on, I'm going open-source solutions,
>>>>> and
>>>>> I'm about to bolt from the whole Windows "solution" in favour of Ubuntu
>>>>> and|or Mint (a fork from Ubuntu). Currently I run both these OSs as VMs
>>>>> inside Oracle/Sun VirtualBox. but I am about to flip the whole system
>>>>> so
>>>>> the basic boot is into Ubuntu and any Windows/Access sessions will be
>>>>> dealt
>>>>> with in a VM.
>>>>>
>>>>> So long, Steve and Bill. It's been a slice, but I'm done with you guys.
>>>>> You
>>>>> don't make life better; you only make it more expensive. And as a
>>>>> semi-retired person, expenses matter significantly.I just calculated
>>>>> December and realized that at the end of the day (after rent, hydro,
>>>>> net
>>>>> connection etc.) I have a whopping $15 left for the whole month of
>>>>> December. Wow. Party hearty.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not that I'm complaining. Were it not for our alleged socialist
>>>>> government,
>>>>> I wouldn't receive so much as a dime; so I count myself in the set of
>>>>> Lucky
>>>>> MoFus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Arthur
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Mark Simms<marksimms at verizon.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> John - I think it's a poor strategy on Microsoft's part.
>>>>>
>>>>>> IMHO: They should position themselves price-wise BETWEEN the
>>>>>> ever-so-expensive Oracle and the ever-so-cheap MySQL.
>>>>>> Instead, they appear to be moving towards trying to compete with
>>>>>> Oracle...
>>>>>> This is so "Balmer-like".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: accessd-bounces@**databaseadvi**sors.com<http://databaseadvisors.com>
>>>>>>> <accessd-bounces@**databaseadvisors.com<accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com>
>>>>>>> >[mailto:
>>>>>>> accessd-
>>>>>>> bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 9:27 AM
>>>>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving; Sqlserver-Dba
>>>>>>> Subject: [AccessD] New SQL Server license scheme is RADICALLLY more
>>>>>>> expensive
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://sqlserverperformance.****wordpress.com/2011/11/10/sql-****<http://wordpress.com/2011/11/10/sql-**>
>>>>>>> server-2012-<http://**sqlserverperformance.**
>>>>>>> wordpress.com/2011/11/10/sql-**server-2012-<http://sqlserverperformance.wordpress.com/2011/11/10/sql-server-2012->
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> licensing-and-hardware-****considerations/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The full retail license cost per physical core is $6874.00 for SQL
>>>>>>> Server 2012 Enterprise Edition.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I cannot imagine that there will not be a huge backlash about this
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> clients and massive
>>>>>>> switching to MySQL and the likes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know that I will never purchase SQL Server 2010.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>> Colby Consulting
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>>>>>>> when you do not believe in it
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