[AccessD] New SQL Server license scheme is RADICALLLY more expensive

jwcolby jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Sat Nov 12 15:14:15 CST 2011


OpenSUSE Showed promise.  Seemed to install.  Turned into a black screen.  Shutdown, turned it back 
on and I am at a pretty green desktop with folder icons.  Linux Integration Service doesn't just 
install...

It seems in fact that the Linux Integration Service only works on a small handful of distros.

Now I remember why I stopped trying... ;)

John W. Colby
Colby Consulting

Reality is what refuses to go away
when you do not believe in it

On 11/12/2011 3:30 PM, jwcolby wrote:
> Fedora just hung showing the pretty submarine. It can't shutdown, power down only. Won't release the
> virtual cd so that I can install the tools.
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
>
> Reality is what refuses to go away
> when you do not believe in it
>
> On 11/12/2011 2:26 PM, jwcolby wrote:
>> I am downloading 4 different distros. Every one claims to just fire up and go. We shall see. Of
>> course getting MariaDb to go after that is one more thing to make happen.
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> Colby Consulting
>>
>> Reality is what refuses to go away
>> when you do not believe in it
>>
>> On 11/12/2011 1:35 PM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
>>> I'm afraid that I can't help you in this endeavour, John. It seems that
>>> Oracle VirtualBox doesn't have the ability to inhale VMs from other sources
>>> (I could be wrong, but if so, haven't yet figured out how to do it.) What I
>>> do instead (in VirtualBox) is create a new VM, loading a CD with the
>>> downloaded OS, and after that, VirtualBox takes care of everything: mounts
>>> the OS, installs it as a VM, allocates the default space with Grow, etc.)
>>>
>>> Allegedly there is a way to use MS VM images, but I haven't got that far yet
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 11:47 AM, jwcolby<jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Arthur,
>>>>
>>>> Do you have a Linux distro that runs in a Hyper-V vm. Yea I know Hyper-V
>>>> is MS but I made a switch to Hyper-V and it would be very disruptive to
>>>> switch back. But I would like to get a vm up and running so I could play
>>>> in MariaDB.
>>>>
>>>> Are there encapsulated VMs that I can just download and start as VMs in
>>>> Hyper-V? I tried to get two different DISTROs running and failed both
>>>> times.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John W. Colby
>>>> Colby Consulting
>>>>
>>>> Reality is what refuses to go away
>>>> when you do not believe in it
>>>>
>>>> On 11/12/2011 11:11 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have moved to MySQL for medium-to-large DBs and to SQLite for small DBs.
>>>>> See ya, BillG and SteveB. I'm gone, reluctantly so, since I have spent the
>>>>> last dozen or so years mastering MS-SQL, which I now realize was a
>>>>> complete
>>>>> waste of time and energy. From now on, I'm going open-source solutions,
>>>>> and
>>>>> I'm about to bolt from the whole Windows "solution" in favour of Ubuntu
>>>>> and|or Mint (a fork from Ubuntu). Currently I run both these OSs as VMs
>>>>> inside Oracle/Sun VirtualBox. but I am about to flip the whole system so
>>>>> the basic boot is into Ubuntu and any Windows/Access sessions will be
>>>>> dealt
>>>>> with in a VM.
>>>>>
>>>>> So long, Steve and Bill. It's been a slice, but I'm done with you guys.
>>>>> You
>>>>> don't make life better; you only make it more expensive. And as a
>>>>> semi-retired person, expenses matter significantly.I just calculated
>>>>> December and realized that at the end of the day (after rent, hydro, net
>>>>> connection etc.) I have a whopping $15 left for the whole month of
>>>>> December. Wow. Party hearty.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not that I'm complaining. Were it not for our alleged socialist
>>>>> government,
>>>>> I wouldn't receive so much as a dime; so I count myself in the set of
>>>>> Lucky
>>>>> MoFus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Arthur
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Mark Simms<marksimms at verizon.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> John - I think it's a poor strategy on Microsoft's part.
>>>>>> IMHO: They should position themselves price-wise BETWEEN the
>>>>>> ever-so-expensive Oracle and the ever-so-cheap MySQL.
>>>>>> Instead, they appear to be moving towards trying to compete with
>>>>>> Oracle...
>>>>>> This is so "Balmer-like".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: accessd-bounces@**databaseadvisors.com<accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com>[mailto:
>>>>>>> accessd-
>>>>>>> bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 9:27 AM
>>>>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving; Sqlserver-Dba
>>>>>>> Subject: [AccessD] New SQL Server license scheme is RADICALLLY more
>>>>>>> expensive
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://sqlserverperformance.**wordpress.com/2011/11/10/sql-**
>>>>>>> server-2012-<http://sqlserverperformance.wordpress.com/2011/11/10/sql-server-2012->
>>>>>>> licensing-and-hardware-**considerations/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The full retail license cost per physical core is $6874.00 for SQL
>>>>>>> Server 2012 Enterprise Edition.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I cannot imagine that there will not be a huge backlash about this from
>>>>>>> clients and massive
>>>>>>> switching to MySQL and the likes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know that I will never purchase SQL Server 2010.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> John W. Colby
>>>>>>> Colby Consulting
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Reality is what refuses to go away
>>>>>>> when you do not believe in it
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