[AccessD] New SQL Server license scheme is RADICALLLY moreexpensive

Salakhetdinov Shamil mcp2004 at mail.ru
Wed Nov 16 03:06:15 CST 2011


John --

Yes, AFAIHH .NET client machines can run against mySQL.

I can be wrong but aren't you just trying to use "raw modern multi-core processors power " to crunch relational db indexes and joins and for that you need to use all the processor's cores?,

What if you'd try to use just one core and a lot of cheap  memory for MS SQL db communication and use other cores to your custom application data processing/crunching and you'll write some custom C#/.NET coding for that - would that save your customers from paying high MS SQL per-core license costs *right now*? And when they get good profit from your working solutions then  they can afford some loans from banks and afford per-core MS SQL licensing - and by that time you'll get them developed even more better and more profitable custom solutions?

> It isn't dead simple but you do get off the endless licensing treadmill with Microsoft.
John, but "licensing treadmill" or "custom software development and support treadmill" is what drives your, mine and other companies hi-tech businesses, isn't it?

Thank you.

-- Shamil

16 ноября 2011, 03:01 от jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>:
> Shamil,
> 
> In fact I believe that seat licensing is very reasonable with Microsoft.  AFAICT the per seat is
> about $200 for Windows AND SQL Server, and that is a onc time cost, or probably a once every 4 or 5
> years if they force you to get new CALs on some new revision of the software.
> 
> in my opinion, that is just a reasonable cost for licensing a SQl Server.  It does have to be
> budgeted for however.  For example for this new server they need around 40 CALs which is $8K plus
> some fixed "server license" fees.  That is a lump sum check that has to be written.  If they just
> put that in the bank over 4 or 5 years they would be fine.
> 
> I am not convinced that TCO as you describe it is huge on Linux / MySQL.  I have a linux server that
> sits in the corner and runs.  My TCO for that was $120 plus an old server system.  If Access can
> talk through ODBC to MySQL then a conversion to MySQL would be reasonably priced.  Yes there is a
> learning curve but still there are no or low recurring fees.  Can .Net on client machines run
> against MySQL?  I would bet so.  Can I run VMs on Linux for things that have to run on Windows?
> What has to run on Windows?
> 
> It isn't dead simple but you do get off the endless licensing treadmill with Microsoft.
> 
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> 
> Reality is what refuses to go away
> when you do not believe in it
> 
> On 11/15/2011 12:58 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil wrote:
> > Hans --
> >
> > Than you for your remark.
> >
> > Sorry, but I'm talking about "Total Cost of Ownership" (TCO) (long run costs - license, development, support etc.)
> >
> > .NET/C# (VS2010) + MS SQL   vs.  mySQL + ... (?).....
> >
> > I haven 't seen any real figures - did you?
> >
> > My feeling is that .NET/C# 4.0 (VS2010) + MS SQL TCO is (considerably) lower even with that high license costs as JC quotes...
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > -- Shamil
> >
> > 15 ноября 2011, 12:51 от Hans-Christian Andersen<hans.andersen at phulse.com>:
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