[AccessD] Windows 8

Charlotte Foust charlotte.foust at gmail.com
Wed Nov 30 11:35:44 CST 2011


Don't you have swype available, John?  It's in the Android OS, and I
couldn't live without it.  When I have to work with the virtual keyboard on
my Nook ereader, I get very frustrated having to tap each letter separately!

Charlotte Foust

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:29 AM, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>wrote:

> >    As far as pixel precision, it's really a matter of scaling, but do
> you really need that?  No.
>
> One of my chief irritations with my Droid is the virtual keyboard,
> constantly shifting to another keyboard to get at the numbers or special
> characters.  And try to position the pointer with my fat fingertip to get
> at a specific character to back space over...
>
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
>
> Reality is what refuses to go away
> when you do not believe in it
>
> On 11/29/2011 8:52 AM, Jim Dettman wrote:
>
>> Stuart,
>>
>>   I would agree to your points to a certain extent, but the main point
>> with
>> touch screen interfaces is that they are variable, which is a very
>> powerful
>> thing.
>>
>>   Like your current keyboard layout?  If not to bad, your stuck with it.
>> Not so with a keyboard simulated on a touch screen.
>>
>>   I'd also throw in the old saying "Today's science fiction is tomorrow's
>> fact".   Watch an episode of the original Star Trek; everything is
>> buttons.
>> Now watch one of Star Trek Next Generation; everything is soft; consoles,
>> hall displays, etc.  There's not a real button anywhere.  I don't doubt it
>> will be long before we are living like that.  Everything will be touch.
>>
>>   Now take a look at the reality side; the aviation industry for example.
>> Just about everything in aircraft avionics uses HUD's and multi-function
>> displays (which have physical buttons, but they are "soft" in that their
>> function changes based on the display).   And of course we can see where
>> consumer electronics is going.
>>
>>   When you come right down to it, what's the difference between typing on
>> a
>> keyboard and touching a display?  Really none (you push something with
>> your
>> finger).
>>
>>   Something that would showcase that quite nicely is terminal emulation.
>>  I
>> need to remember that the "DO" key on a VAX is one combination under this
>> emulation, another under this emulation, and different under a third.
>> And
>> not all physical numeric keypads have the same layout, which is really
>> important in the VAX world.  I would much rather see and use a virtual
>> keyboard on a touch screen.
>>
>>   Take a look at the original Tron movie sometime; virtual touch keyboard
>> built into the desktop.
>>
>>   As far as pixel precision, it's really a matter of scaling, but do you
>> really need that?  No.  In fact most people slow their mice down and only
>> worry about getting into the general area of where they need to be and not
>> getting to a specific pixel.  Just consider command buttons; I bet you
>> make
>> them larger then the text they display; why is that?
>>
>> Jim.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces@**databaseadvisors.com<accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com>
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces@**databaseadvisors.com<accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com>]
>> On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 08:09 PM
>>
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8
>>
>> What do you mean by "working with" virutal documents.
>>
>> If you mean creating/editing documents, give me a decent keyboard and the
>> fine resolution of
>> a mouse pointer or stylus please.   How do you get anywhere near pixel
>> precision with a
>> fingertip?
>>
>>
>> On 29 Nov 2011 at 4:25, Salakhetdinov Shamil wrote:
>>
>>  Darryl --
>>>
>>> Working with "virtual documents" by hands - two hands - on multi-touch
>>> displays is no doubt more ergonomic and intuitive than using mouse...
>>> The next logical step are "virtual desktops" - horizontally mounted
>>> displays, "virtual blackboards" with "virtual keyboards" etc. - that's
>>> another technological revolution of the ways of communicating with
>>> computers by using a broad range of both hands gestures and voice...
>>>
>>> The next should probably be "virtual holographic displays" and 3D
>>>
>> communication with them...
>>
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> -- Shamil
>>>
>>>
>>
>>  --
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