[AccessD] Wish List.

Stuart McLachlan stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
Fri Sep 9 02:54:18 CDT 2011


It's true what they say - you live and learn.

I've been using tabs for umpteen years and I wasn't aware of that trick.

Neat!

-- 
Stuart

On 8 Sep 2011 at 22:47, rockysmolin at bchacc.com wrote:

> Try setting the Style property of the tab control to None.  
> 
> Rocky
> 
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Wish List.
> From: "Darryl Collins" <darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au>
> Date: Thu, September 08, 2011 5:02 pm
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> 
> " I'm not sure what you mean about not hiding the tab label."
> 
> At the top of every tab you have a label (tab) which sticks up above
> the rest of the form - the bit the user presses to change tabs if more
> than one tab is visible. The problem is even if only 1 tab is visible
> you cannot hide this label which stick out above the rest of the
> form/page. Visually this is not what we want to see.
> 
> Maybe I am just anal about this sort of thing, but it looks ugly, at
> least for what I am try to achieve.
> 
> Don't get me wrong, I am not anti-tabbed forms/pages. I have used the
> extensively in the past and will do so again. It is just in this one
> instance using tabs seems (and looks) like a cheap and tacky
> workaround.
> 
> Cheers
> Darryl,.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
> Foust Sent: Friday, 9 September 2011 1:56 AM To: Access Developers
> discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Wish List.
> 
> I do know how they work, but I was confused by what I understood of
> your description. What you're describing is exactly what tab controls
> are for, and I've used them that way in both Access and VB.Net. All
> you need to do with a tab control is select the tab page and that
> brings the controls on that page up for you to edit. In effect, you
> see them the way the user does, except for any controls that you make
> conditionally visible to the user when that page is up. Those, of
> course, you see in design view all the time.
> 
> I'm not sure what you mean about not hiding the tab label. If you're
> talking about the tabs themselves, they can be turned off so that you
> control the visible page through code. In Access and .Net, I simply
> have used the top and left settigs to insure that things lined up. How
> hard is that? As for photoshop, I hate it. It seems to me the ultimate
> in non-intuitive UIs, but I admit to being a luddite on some issues,
> especially with respect to graphics.
> 
> Charlotte Foust
> 
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Darryl Collins <
> darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Charlotte - forgive me for this as I really respect your opinion,
> > but I am not sure you understand how layers work in other
> > applications - they would never show up all at the same time (unless
> > that is what you wanted). You can control which ones are visible to
> > the user - might be one, might
> be
> > several in different combinations and you can show and reveal based
> > on
> what
> > the user needs.
> >
> > Layers would also have the huge advantage of allowing you to edit
> > each layer individually in design mode. So you have no need to move
> > controls out of the way to get to a control that is under another
> > one. Have play in photoshop if you get the chance and you will see
> > how useful this method
> is.
> > I know I can fake it using a tab form but the result is less elegant
> > you cannot hide the tab label itself and it is a pain to ensure all
> > the controls on each tab is aligned. Blah blah, I have resorted to
> > tabs in the past
> and
> > it is a clunky solution for what I am trying to do.
> >
> > That said, sometimes tabbed forms are the way to go. Just depends on
> > what you want to achieve. In this instance I was thinking "Man, wish
> > I had a layered design view"...
> >
> > Just my thoughts.
> > Cheers
> > Darryl.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte
> > Foust Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2011 12:10 PM To: Access
> > Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD]
> > Wish List.
> >
> > Microsoft addressed this years ago by introducing tab controls. Why
> > on earth would you want to use layers that all showed up at the same
> > time? Logically, layers would only show the controls relevant to
> > that
> layer/page.
> >
> > Charlotte Foust
> > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Darryl Collins <
> > darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > > Been doing a lot of work with forms. In particular single forms
> > > with a
> > lot
> > > of controls that are hidden or revealed depending on what options
> > > are available. I really wish MS were inspired by Adobe with how
> > > form design behaves. Why can't forms be layered? So you can work
> > > on individual
> > layers
> > > which only have the relevant controls for that layer, but when the
> > > form
> > is
> > > displayed all layers are shown, just like an image in Photoshop
> > > for example.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > That would be super useful as right now if I want to change
> > > anything on first controls I added, I have to move all of the
> > > other controls on top
> > out
> > > of the way, make the changes, and then put them all back again. A
> > > real PITA. Would be wonderful to turn on and off visibility on the
> > > layers
> and
> > > then it would be easy to access any set of controls that are just
> > > on
> that
> > > layer.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I know I can sort of fake this by using tabs, is this a better way
> > > or
> > does
> > > anyone has a different angle I can consider?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Darryl.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Darryl Collins
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