[AccessD] Access 2K subforms bound to SQL Server.

Charlotte Foust charlotte.foust at gmail.com
Fri Jan 20 23:41:07 CST 2012


Sure, but will they go along with that?

Charlotte Foust

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 7:20 PM, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>wrote:

> >The alternative if you can't persuade them into upgrading is to go
> completely unbound and the forms and use code to manage the
> reads/writes/edits/deletions.
>
> This is a monster application with close to 200 forms, using my framework
> for all kinds of repetitive / user interface stuff, all of which assumed
> bound.  It would be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay cheaper to upgrade all of the
> users to a modern office version than pay me to rewrite it to unbound so
> they could stay on an 11 year old buggy as hell office version.
>
> Doncha think?
>
>
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
>
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> when you do not believe in it
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> On 1/20/2012 1:16 PM, Charlotte Foust wrote:
>
>> I remember the problem in 2000.  It was resolved in 2002.  Have you tried
>> using a recordset based on a view?  I can't recall whether that made a
>> difference or not.  The alternative if you can't persuade them into
>> upgrading is to go completely unbound and the forms and use code to manage
>> the reads/writes/edits/deletions.  I used the unbound option a LOT when I
>> was working in 2000.
>>
>> Charlotte Foust
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 9:48 AM, jwcolby<jwcolby@**colbyconsulting.com<jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
>> >wrote:
>>
>>  My client is moving to SQL Server at my persistent prodding.  They have
>>> outgrown Access database containers, we have had to split their original
>>> single Access BE many times and now have about 6 different BEs with as
>>> much
>>> as 800 megs of data in some of them (after compact / repair).  "Another
>>> user has locked this record" kinds of issues.  All that stuff.
>>>
>>> So we are slooooowly moving the database to SQL Server.
>>>
>>> The problem is that they remain firmly mired in Access 2000.  Yep.  Sigh.
>>>
>>> The biggest issue with Access 2K from the perspective of SQL Server is
>>> that forms cannot be bound to recordsets and still be editable.
>>>
>>> So I am searching for a way to emulate what has always mostly worked, yet
>>> at least maintain the current speed (not great) or speed things up.
>>>
>>> I have been using SQl Server with Office 2003 for a long time and it
>>> works
>>> very well but I don't have that here.  I am considering trying to use
>>> Access 2007 runtime, which I am using in other places and seems to work
>>> quite well.  The biggest problem with doing that for this client is
>>> simply
>>> that the application is *very* complex and I program "to the metal".
>>>  When
>>> something doesn't work in runtime, it is extremely difficult to
>>> troubleshoot.
>>>
>>> So I am looking for thoughts on my predicament, and how you may have
>>> handled a similar situation.
>>>
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