Hans-Christian Andersen
hans.andersen at phulse.com
Thu Jul 19 18:47:03 CDT 2012
My main concern with regards to this isn't all the fancy non-standard enterprise features that Microsoft introduced with their Exchange product. Of course it's a challenge for others to support those features perfectly when it's designed by MS and patented by them too. But something as basic as IMAP is something everyone does properly. And it is a very basic protocol that has been out for a long time (since 2003) and has a clearly defined RFC. - Hans Sent from my iPhone On 2012-07-15, at 4:28 PM, "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote: > Hi Hans: > > I was reading an article going on a couple of weeks ago explaining our three > protocols we use for all emailing. > > http://signinx.com/difference-between-pop3-imap-smtp/ > > How Microsoft would be able to have any emailing without the use of one of > the protocols is beyond me. > > Upon closer reading of the posted article it seems that Microsoft hasn't > completed an appropriate email client; yet and there are no real > alternatives for computers, with use the new Arm chip set. Building an email > client would seem a no-brainer as currently it would put on the level with > that of the iPad, which the writer said had to be "jail-broken", to make it > fully functional or Apple's email version which he described as just > plain-buggy. Everything at the moment depends on a completed version of the > new office which will be an additional expense (Very expensive?). > > According to another article, I can't seem to find now, it appears that > Microsoft is attempting to move that functionality to the Cloud; its own > Cloud. So it will be just like the new Win8 product, only supporting the IE > browser. IMHO, MS is trying to become more Apple than Apple, in > shutting-down and locking out all competition within their private preserve. > > Of course there are still a few months before everything goes on sale and > becomes official. I will be concerned at that point if no movement has been > made on any mail client. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hans-Christian > Andersen > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 2:59 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8 Mail Leaves Users Pining For the Desktop > -or Even Their Phones > > The big push is to get everyone to love Metro though. A lack of support for > something as basic as IMAP is quite surprising. > > Best regards, > Hans-Christian Andersen > > > On 15 Jul 2012, at 11:50, "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote: > >> I guess users will just have to learn how to make better usage out of > Google >> Mail, unfortunately they will have to figure how to do that with only the > IE >> browser available. >> >> Jim >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hans-Christian >> Andersen >> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 11:50 PM >> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >> Subject: [AccessD] Windows 8 Mail Leaves Users Pining For the Desktop - or >> Even Their Phones >> >> > http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/07/windows-8-mail-leaves- >> users-pining-for-the-desktop-or-even-their-phones/ >> >> -- snip -- >> >> "The e-mail client in Windows 8 is the shell of a potentially good >> application - but Microsoft hasn't given it the proper care it deserves. >> With less than a month before Windows 8 hits RTM, Mail is a mess that >> doesn't support IMAP, can't connect to servers with self-signed >> certificates, and lacks basic features like flagging messages for > followup. >> Metro Mail is feature-deficient compared not just to other desktop and >> tablet apps - it's behind Microsoft's own phone platform. Whether used on > a >> tablet or desktop, this in-depth look concludes that Metro Mail in its >> current form will have users pining for a real desktop application." >> >> -- snip -- >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com