Jim Dettman
jimdettman at verizon.net
Thu Nov 1 15:52:23 CDT 2012
I should clarify one point; when I said "Traditional desktop development with Access is out.", I should have said " on it's way out" With 2013, you still can develop desktop apps. But no new features have been added to support that and nothing new (from my viewpoint) has been added for quite some time (see my reply to Tina). What I see from Microsoft is that everything (not just with Access) is all about the cloud and Office 365 and if your not heading in that direction, your heading in the wrong one. Jim. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 04:11 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Regarding multi-value field, from a reader As if we did not see this coming. I have been saying it for a while and now it is official. Access is no longer the preserve of developers; Developers will still be needed or people who understand how databases work but that is not because MS has not tried to eliminate their requirement so expect no official support. In traditional MS response to situations, just ignore a problem, direct all who ask to RTFM or RTFWS and the problem will just disappear...just like all their web developers. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 12:06 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Regarding multi-value field, from a reader If you haven't figured it out, we (developers) are not going to be in the picture much longer. Microsoft just released details on Office and Access 2013: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj162978(v=office.15).aspx Couple of quotes: "A new interactive view designer makes it easy for users who have little or no programming experience to build apps. " "A new application model enables subject matter experts to quickly create and share applications that can be used to run their business. " They are focused on the end user and nothing but and everything is about the cloud and Office 365. Traditional desktop development with Access is out. Here's a list of what got pulled out: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc178954%28v=office.15%29.aspx; Two biggies from that: 1. Access 2003 toolbars and command bars are no longer supported. You *must* use the ribbon. 2. ADP's are gone. And there's a bunch of other stuff, like Pivot Charts. Jim. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tina Norris Fields Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 02:52 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Regarding multi-value field, from a reader Well, for what it's worth, I agree with everybody who said don't use multi-value fields! Geez, we go to lots of trouble to normalize our data and then Access arrives with new specialties that at least look like the destruction of normalization! Dang! T Tina Norris Fields tinanfields at torchlake.com 231-322-2787 On 10/31/2012 7:08 PM, Susan Harkins wrote: > Received the following from a reader: > > "I set up a multivalued field in Access 2010 using a List Box and > providing a Value List with values M,T,W,R,F. Everything works fine > but for one problem. When I chose M, W, F from my list, th > emultivalued filed reads F, M, W ... i.e., the entries are sorted left > to right whereas I want them to show up as M, W, F. Is there a way to > do this?" > > =====Other than learning the basics so I could write about them, I > don't use them and have almost no experience. Anyone have a quick and > easy answer? I'm going to do a little research, but if anybody knows, > please share! > > Thanks! > Susan H. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com