[AccessD] Bootcamp or Paralells - was RE: OT: iPhone/iPad development on an MS Windows PC - noway?

Hans-Christian Andersen hans.andersen at phulse.com
Fri Sep 14 23:09:14 CDT 2012


The one main issue with virtualising (for me, that is) is that you end up having less dedicated memory - more so than CPU resources. If you don't need much, than all is good, but .NET/Java applications tend to be pigs (and so is visual studio).

Best regards,
Hans-Christian Andersen


On 14 Sep 2012, at 19:47, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:

> Almost certainly, a VM is emulated.  However with the speed of hardware these days...
> 
> John W. Colby
> Colby Consulting
> 
> Reality is what refuses to go away
> when you do not believe in it
> 
> On 9/14/2012 4:22 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote:
>> Thanks - do you know if there's any difference in speed, response time,
>> etc.?
>> 
>> R
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
>> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:29 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Bootcamp or Paralells - was RE: OT: iPhone/iPad
>> development on an MS Windows PC - noway?
>> 
>> Bootcamp requires selecting which OS to boot into, i.e. only one of the OSes
>> is available at the time.  Parallels runs Windows7 (or other OS) in a VM
>> under the Mac and thus both are available "simultaneously" which is less
>> intrusive if you ask me.
>> 
>> John W. Colby
>> Colby Consulting
>> 
>> Reality is what refuses to go away
>> when you do not believe in it
>> 
>> On 9/14/2012 1:07 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote:
>>> If I want to run my commercial app on a Mac and recommend how to do it
>>> to clients who want to use Mac but run my app, which is better -
>>> Bootcamp or Parallels?
>>> 
>>> Rocky
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Steele
>>> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 9:44 AM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: iPhone/iPad development on an MS Windows PC
>>> - noway?
>>> 
>>> Hi Shamil:
>>> 
>>> You can always use Bootcamp which effectively runs Windows directly on
>>> a Mac.
>>> 
>>> I've got a fairly new Macbook Pro - 2.3ghz I5, 8gb ram.  I just did
>>> some quick timing tests opening an A2003 database and running a big
>>> report.  I also did the same on my older 2.66ghz Core2 Duo 4gb Windows 7
>> 32bit box.
>>> 
>>> I just counted off the time manually, so this is pretty rough. But
>>> repeatedly running the same report on Bootcamp (32 bit Windows 7), in
>>> Parallels (64 bit Windows 7) and on the Windows machine all seemed to
>>> take the same time - about 12 seconds on all versions.
>>> 
>>> Psychologically at least, my experience with using all 3 approaches is
>>> that I can't tell the difference.
>>> 
>>> Doug
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Salakhetdinov Shamil
>>> <mcp2004 at mail.ru>wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi All --
>>>> 
>>>> I do like my Windows Phone 7.5(:)) and it has a set of features,
>>>> which are good enough for me currently, I like Windows 7 and as I
>>>> have written here several times I have no any objections on new
>>>> "Metro" UI for coming Windows
>>>> 8: desktop, tablet, phone. I suppose I'm rather effective VS2010/C#/...
>>>> developer, my customers like my work...
>>>> 
>>>> ... but it  .... "seems that the future of Windows development is
>>>> happening largely for corporate environments and customers. I don't
>>>> take issue with this other than being someone who doesn't live or
>>>> work inside a corporate environment at home..." (source: "50 Reasons
>>>> to Switch from Microsoft Windows to Apple's Mac OS X" -
>>>> 
>>> http://chris.pirillo.com/50-reasons-to-switch-from-microsoft-windows-t
>>> o-appl
>>> es-mac-os-x/).
>>>> ..
>>>> 
>>>> ... IOW I do plan to start learning iPhone/iPad (and Android) custom
>>>> development really soon and I have to find what is the most effective
>>>> yet as affordable as possible combination of hardware and software to
>>>> keep both MS Windows (desktop, Phone, tablet) and iPhone/iPad and
>>>> Android development...
>>>> 
>>>> I suppose that getting a Mac instead of a PC is unavoidable but
>>>> should I additionally have an MS Windows driven box/laptop or running
>>>> MS Windows with Visual Studio on Mac under VMWare Fusion or Parallels
>>>> is as speedy as running MS Windows and Visual Studio on a "bare Intel
>>> processor metal"?
>>>> Does anybody here have a real life experience of MS WIndows
>>>> development on a Mac? Please advise.
>>>> 
>>>> FYI: Some more links on the OT subject:
>>>> 
>>>> A hardcore Windows guy gets a Mac
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.davidalison.com/2008/02/hardcore-windows-guy-switches-to-m
>>>> a c.html iPhone Development On Windows - 7 Options
>>>> http://maniacdev.com/2010/01/iphone-development-windows-options-avail
>>>> a
>>>> ble/
>>>> iPhone development on Windows
>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/113547/iphone-development-on-windo
>>>> w
>>>> s
>>>> http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=537583
>>>> Thank you.
>>>> 
>>>> -- Shamil
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