[AccessD] Bootcamp or Paralells - was RE: OT: iPhone/iPad development on an MS Windows PC - noway?

Stuart McLachlan stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
Sat Sep 15 00:07:59 CDT 2012


Which is why I put 8GB of RAM in my  laptop.

-- 
Stuart

On 14 Sep 2012 at 21:09, Hans-Christian Andersen wrote:

> The one main issue with virtualising (for me, that is) is that you end
> up having less dedicated memory - more so than CPU resources. If you
> don't need much, than all is good, but .NET/Java applications tend to
> be pigs (and so is visual studio). 
> 
> Best regards,
> Hans-Christian Andersen
> 
> 
> On 14 Sep 2012, at 19:47, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
> 
> > Almost certainly, a VM is emulated.  However with the speed of hardware these days...
> > 
> > John W. Colby
> > Colby Consulting
> > 
> > Reality is what refuses to go away
> > when you do not believe in it
> > 
> > On 9/14/2012 4:22 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote:
> >> Thanks - do you know if there's any difference in speed, response time,
> >> etc.?
> >> 
> >> R
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
> >> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:29 AM
> >> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Bootcamp or Paralells - was RE: OT: iPhone/iPad
> >> development on an MS Windows PC - noway?
> >> 
> >> Bootcamp requires selecting which OS to boot into, i.e. only one of the OSes
> >> is available at the time.  Parallels runs Windows7 (or other OS) in a VM
> >> under the Mac and thus both are available "simultaneously" which is less
> >> intrusive if you ask me.
> >> 
> >> John W. Colby
> >> Colby Consulting
> >> 
> >> Reality is what refuses to go away
> >> when you do not believe in it
> >> 
> >> On 9/14/2012 1:07 PM, Rocky Smolin wrote:
> >>> If I want to run my commercial app on a Mac and recommend how to do it
> >>> to clients who want to use Mac but run my app, which is better -
> >>> Bootcamp or Parallels?
> >>> 
> >>> Rocky
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> >>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Doug Steele
> >>> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 9:44 AM
> >>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> >>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: iPhone/iPad development on an MS Windows PC
> >>> - noway?
> >>> 
> >>> Hi Shamil:
> >>> 
> >>> You can always use Bootcamp which effectively runs Windows directly on
> >>> a Mac.
> >>> 
> >>> I've got a fairly new Macbook Pro - 2.3ghz I5, 8gb ram.  I just did
> >>> some quick timing tests opening an A2003 database and running a big
> >>> report.  I also did the same on my older 2.66ghz Core2 Duo 4gb Windows 7
> >> 32bit box.
> >>> 
> >>> I just counted off the time manually, so this is pretty rough. But
> >>> repeatedly running the same report on Bootcamp (32 bit Windows 7), in
> >>> Parallels (64 bit Windows 7) and on the Windows machine all seemed to
> >>> take the same time - about 12 seconds on all versions.
> >>> 
> >>> Psychologically at least, my experience with using all 3 approaches is
> >>> that I can't tell the difference.
> >>> 
> >>> Doug
> >>> 
> >>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Salakhetdinov Shamil
> >>> <mcp2004 at mail.ru>wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> Hi All --
> >>>> 
> >>>> I do like my Windows Phone 7.5(:)) and it has a set of features,
> >>>> which are good enough for me currently, I like Windows 7 and as I
> >>>> have written here several times I have no any objections on new
> >>>> "Metro" UI for coming Windows
> >>>> 8: desktop, tablet, phone. I suppose I'm rather effective VS2010/C#/...
> >>>> developer, my customers like my work...
> >>>> 
> >>>> ... but it  .... "seems that the future of Windows development is
> >>>> happening largely for corporate environments and customers. I don't
> >>>> take issue with this other than being someone who doesn't live or
> >>>> work inside a corporate environment at home..." (source: "50 Reasons
> >>>> to Switch from Microsoft Windows to Apple's Mac OS X" -
> >>>> 
> >>> http://chris.pirillo.com/50-reasons-to-switch-from-microsoft-windows-t
> >>> o-appl
> >>> es-mac-os-x/).
> >>>> ..
> >>>> 
> >>>> ... IOW I do plan to start learning iPhone/iPad (and Android) custom
> >>>> development really soon and I have to find what is the most effective
> >>>> yet as affordable as possible combination of hardware and software to
> >>>> keep both MS Windows (desktop, Phone, tablet) and iPhone/iPad and
> >>>> Android development...
> >>>> 
> >>>> I suppose that getting a Mac instead of a PC is unavoidable but
> >>>> should I additionally have an MS Windows driven box/laptop or running
> >>>> MS Windows with Visual Studio on Mac under VMWare Fusion or Parallels
> >>>> is as speedy as running MS Windows and Visual Studio on a "bare Intel
> >>> processor metal"?
> >>>> Does anybody here have a real life experience of MS WIndows
> >>>> development on a Mac? Please advise.
> >>>> 
> >>>> FYI: Some more links on the OT subject:
> >>>> 
> >>>> A hardcore Windows guy gets a Mac
> >>>> 
> >>>> http://www.davidalison.com/2008/02/hardcore-windows-guy-switches-to-m
> >>>> a c.html iPhone Development On Windows - 7 Options
> >>>> http://maniacdev.com/2010/01/iphone-development-windows-options-avail
> >>>> a
> >>>> ble/
> >>>> iPhone development on Windows
> >>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/113547/iphone-development-on-windo
> >>>> w
> >>>> s
> >>>> http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=537583
> >>>> Thank you.
> >>>> 
> >>>> -- Shamil
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