Rocky Smolin
rockysmolin at bchacc.com
Sat Sep 22 15:20:49 CDT 2012
So what's in a name? Perhaps AccessD means you've AccesseD the best, friendliest, most knowledgeable technical minds and advice in the Western Hemisphere. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 9:34 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Ctrl Break I would like to point out that we just had a rather long thread having mostly nothing to do with Access, but the list provided an answer to the problem, provided some soothing words and just generally acted like family. :) John W. Colby Colby Consulting Reality is what refuses to go away when you do not believe in it On 9/22/2012 11:25 AM, Jim Dettman wrote: > Rocky, > > > For all those questions, there's actually a nice article I found > when I checked into what the entry did (and it was on EE of all places<g>): > > http://www.experts-exchange.com/OS/Microsoft_Operating_Systems/Windows > /A_215 5-Keyboard-Remapping-CAPSLOCK-to-Ctrl-and-Beyond.html > > > I recently bought a new Dell over the summer and the break key > wasn't on the keyboard. Checking on-line, I see it's now a common > problem. As many have noted, it's just not used much anymore. > > I found a post in the Dell forums referencing the registry hack, > which I checked out through the EE article (I always want to make sure > I understand any registry change and what it's doing before I use it). > That's where I also found the program reference, but I'd rather not > install software if I don't have to, so I have not tried it and used the registry hack instead. > > Basically, windows has a set of "virtual keys" representing all the > various function and keystrokes, which hardware and BIOS mfg's map to. > This registry change affects that mapping. > > This is happening at a very low level and if you do screw it up, you > can end up making a keystroke unavailable. If it happens to be a > critical one, then you'd need to use a second computer to do a remote registry change. > > The one posted however does work and I double checked what it's doing. > > The article was well worth a read because it also gets into those > special function/media keys that kick off programs on your PC and how > that's accomplished. > > <<So I went to Regedit and when I drill down to Keyboard Layout I find > two more sub-folders - DosKeybCodes and DosKeybIDs. Ignore those? >> > > Yes. > > > Easiest is to do the change via file. Create a new text file on > your desktop (right click, new, text document) and call it > "mapctrlbreaktoF10.reg" > > Now edit it and paste in: > > Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 > > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout] > "Scancode > Map"=hex:00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,02,00,00,00,46,e0,44,00,00,00,00,00 > > and save. Double click and you'll be asked if it's OK to import. > Click OK and then reboot. You should now find that F10 gives you a break. > > A small caution on doing the above; you need to check for that > registry key before you do the above because doing the above will wipe > out anything already there. This key should not exist by default. > > By the way, if you want to delete the mapping, just delete the key. > > Jim. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky > Smolin > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 09:13 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] FW: Ctrl Break > > Jim: > > It looked like a good thing to try but I'm not to good with the > registry and always real cautious. > > So I went to Regedit and when I drill down to Keyboard Layout I find > two more sub-folders - DosKeybCodes and DosKeybIDs. Ignore those? > > So then is this snip that remaps F10 a new key? > > There's one key in Keyboard Layout - Default. Do I edit that one? Or > create a new key? > > If a new key does it go into its own sub-folder or into the Keyboard > Layout folder? > > Is Scancode Map the Value Name and the snip starting with =hex entered > in the value data? > > > So many questions...:) > > Thanks > > Rocky > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:07 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: [AccessD] FW: Ctrl Break > > > > You guys miss this? > > Jim. > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 04:21 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ctrl Break > > > It's not there on mine either. I've remapped the F10 using this: > > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout] > "Scancode > Map"=hex:00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,02,00,00,00,46,e0,44,00,00,00,00,00 > > Some have said this program works well: > > http://www.randyrants.com/2008/12/sharpkeys_30.html > > But I haven't tried it yet. > > Jim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 04:07 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ctrl Break > > Hey Guys > Thank You kindly. > This is a new system. And <Pause/Break> does not exist on the new keyboard. > I am not criticizing any of your comments. > But ever since I bought this new Dell product with Windows 7 it has > been one problem after another. My major problem is that there is no > longer the option to do <Ctrl Break> in Access 2003 to kill the Access > error message and view what is causing the problem in my code. > > The thing is I do not want to try my old keyboard, and I do not want > to talk to Dell's support people because I already told them I would > never buy another of their products. I am asking you guys if you can > give me some direction, that is all. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve > Turner > Sent: September-20-12 2:45 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ctrl Break > > Have you tried your old keyboard it should still work. I got a new > dell and I didn't like the light touch and one or two keys kept not > working so I put the old one back on and things work fine. Oh are you > on a laptop? Then you're up a creek I guess. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:25 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ctrl Break > > Hey Steve > I have to first thank both of you Steves for responding. No again the > companies keep dictating what you get, the Pause/Break key is gone. > Suckered again with the punch. > > Tony Septav > Nanaimo, BC > Canada > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve > Turner > Sent: September-20-12 2:07 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ctrl Break > > You don't have a pause break key to the right of the f keys? > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:02 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ctrl Break > > Hey Steve > Nope, I have tried all kinds of CTRL combinations and I just do not > get the needed affect. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve > Goodhall > Sent: September-20-12 1:56 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problemsolving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ctrl Break > > Does ctrl-c work? > > Steve Goodhall, MSCS, PMP > > -----Original message----- > From: Tony Septav <TSeptav at uniserve.com> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Thu, Sep 20, 2012 18:51:48 GMT+00:00 > Subject: [AccessD] Ctrl Break > > Hey All > > On my new Dell machine on the keyboard I cannot find any Break key. On > the older versions of keyboards I would always use <Ctrl Break> to > bust out of a code error message and jump to the spot it occurred. Is > there an alternative? > > > > PS: Windows 7 is causing me more grieve then I ever expected. > > > > Thanks > > Tony Septav > > Nanaimo, BC > > Canada > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5281 - Release Date: > 09/20/12 > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5281 - Release Date: > 09/20/12 > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5281 - Release Date: > 09/20/12 > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com