[AccessD] OT - Best Web Language

Jim Lawrence accessd at shaw.ca
Mon Feb 18 21:51:18 CST 2013


Hi Mark:

Wow, that restriction seems to violate everything in a Democratic country or
any Democracy for that matter.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Simms
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 5:23 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT - Best Web Language

I agree with Jim and might add:  you are really taking on a lot in a short
period of time.
Be prepared for little sleep.
Webdev has always been a sausage-making-like endeavor.
I've been waiting for that to change...but alas, despite PHP, ASP.NET,
JQuery, HTML5, Silverlight, etc. all becoming compelling solutions, no one
solution has surfaced as "king" of webdev.

Interestingly, what I got involved with recently is the LEGAL aspects of
websites.
If you attempt (As I am about to do) to post true, but derogatory material
on the web....it will be taken down even if it's 100% totally true and
accurate.
Free speech is no longer in the USA. Period. Lawyers run the country.
A blogsite on the ever so popular Wordpress website can be taken down with
ONE PHONE CALL FROM A LAWYER...no questions asked. If he complains, it comes
down. If his allegations are BOGUS, it still comes down.
You want to challenge that ? Be prepared to spend at least $20k in legal
expenses....depositions and even a jury trial.

I've found a solution with webhosting services in Belize and Singapore who
only honor THEIR legal system's rules and laws.
Essentially, to "take down" sites hosted there would require a US State
department initiated Seal Team attack akin to the one on Osama Bin Laden.

Wait ! There's more. Having sites at these remote locations still does not
prevent your enemies (the ones you are writing about) to hit you with DDOS
attacks (Distributed Denial of Service) to prevent publicity of their
wrong-doings.
So you have to purchase special services like this:
http://www.cloudflare.com/features-security This effectively adds another
layer of sentinel security albeit at the cost of an extra "hop" or two.

This all came about after I was rejected by a newspaper...who feared they
would be sued if the material was published. So I thought the web would be
an easy alternative. How wrong I was.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-
> bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 7:28 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT - Best Web Language
>
> Hi Paul:
>
> It looks like it is going to take a bit of effort to get up to speed
> quickly.
>
> Just a quick couple of comments. It appears that they are a Microsoft
> shop
> as they have a MS SQL BE DB so ASP.Net as the server BE language may be
> your
> best approach. The FE webpages will be a combination of HTML, CSS and
> JavaScript...ASP.Net later. You can test these web pages by just saving
> the
> page with the extension of HTML and just double clicking on the result
> and
> it will run on the default browser.
>
> Look for sample code (there is thousnds of code samples out there) and
> dig
> through an appropriate example until you understand the syntax and what
> it
> is doing.
>
> Connecting and testing the result with page with a language like
> ASP.Net in
> them assumes a few things. An IIS server; it is free and I think it
> runs on
> any Windows machine and comes default with the ASP.Net interpeter on
> it.
> Connection start page to web server is a point of further discussing
> and if
> you can just get a simple web page running on your default browser we
> can go
> the next step.
>
> http://www.w3schools.com is a good place to start.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Paul
> Hartland
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 3:05 PM
> To: Access List
> Subject: [AccessD] OT - Best Web Language
>
> To all,
>
> The other day I posted an OT about starting to learn VB.net whilst I am
> out
> of work, I am using the Microsoft Visual Studio Express as I can't
> afford
> to purchase the full Visual Studio suite, and I got some very useful
> answers and pointers etc.  Today I have been contacted by a recruitment
> agency that has an off the shelf product linked into SQL Server, and
> want
> to employ someone on a contract basis to develop a more bespoke front
> end,
> but will also want a web front end which will enable their staff to
> logon
> and fill in their timesheet etc, and I was wondering what would be the
> best
> or mixture of languages to use ASP, PHP, Java, HTML etc and if I write
> something how could I test it on my machine at home ? as I have a
> meeting
> with them this Friday 22nd February, it sounds like they would be
> willing
> to spend a little on a training course for me, but not holding them to
> it.
>
> Thank you for any help in advance.
>
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