[AccessD] Tony's comments - Part 2

Hans-Christian Andersen hans.andersen at phulse.com
Wed Feb 20 10:32:34 CST 2013

My issue with this list is that is focused on Microsoft tech and so I don't have a lot to say. When I do have something to say, I feel it is often met with silence, unless it is something that is a hot button issue (ie. Apple, Windows 8, state of the job market, etc). Maybe it's because most of you know each other well and I'm just an outsider.

Maybe we should add a few new mailing lists. For instance one for Linux, since Jim, Arthur and I all have an interest in this.

Best regards,
Hans-Christian Andersen

On 20 Feb 2013, at 07:58, "Jim Dettman" <jimdettman at verizon.net> wrote:

>  The other thing is that AccessD has not changed in many, many, years and
> the list format is limiting.   John just made the comment "We were going to
> have a discussion about other forms that the list could you use instead of
> just a list. That hasn't happened but it may yet."
> May happen?  Like when?  Wasn't it months ago it was talked about?  or
> changes to the web site?   Don't take me wrong, I'm not trying to be overly
> critical (for example, where is *my* contribution).   My point is that
> Access D has remained virtually unchanged since it's beginning.  Is it any
> wonder there are not new members?  There's nothing here to attract them.
> Blogging, Articles, uploads, etc should have been done years ago (and just
> as an FYI, we had the same discussions on EE about 7-8 years ago).  I belong
> to a local board for dirt bike riders and it's got way more features then
> Access D has (it's a simple machines board and cost approx $60/yr).  The
> times have changed and Access D has not.
>  And while I applaud the article from Arthur and John; guys the horse left
> the barn years ago.   These would have been killer articles ten years back,
> but now?  No one is building anything sophisticated in VBA anymore.  Look to
> the 3rd party world; do you see any of the old standby's updated for 64 bit?
> No.  Stephan has retired from all things Access, FMS is really not cranking
> out any new stuff,  MZ Tools has been on version 3 for years now, and Smart
> Indenter hasn't been updated beyond A2003.
>  Arthur did make one point that I disagree with "There is also the
> possibility that our discussions have acquired such a narrow focus as to be
> intelligible only to the Accesserati."
>  If anything, the opposite is true and is something I complained about a
> couple of years back; to a certain extent, we seem to talk about just about
> anything and everything here now.  It's not just Access anymore and I
> believe I share some of Tony's feelings on this as well.  I got tired of the
> list several years back after seeing nothing new from anyone, seeing the
> same stuff over and over (how many PK debates have we had),  and reading
> post after post from John about his latest SQL Server/Windows Server
> adventures, networking in his house, etc., which had nothing to do with
> Access.   
>  But everyone basically said "times have changed and we all do a lot more
> then just Access now", which is totally correct.  A list re-organization was
> suggested back then.  But once again, nothing ever happened and here we are
> a couple of years latter with nothing changed, having the same conversation
> all over again.
> Jim
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