Hans-Christian Andersen
hans.andersen at phulse.com
Wed Feb 20 15:00:07 CST 2013
>True but there are not many R on R, Python, PHP, ASP.Net, JavaScript and HTML developers on this list, in fact darn few web designer here of any level Then perhaps maybe this is just the wrong mailing list for me? I guess the problem might be that we don't have too many new people joining with a fresh perspective on newer technologies. - Hans * Hans-Christian Andersen **Web Application Developer, Vancouver, Canada* E: hans at phulse.com T: +44 (0)20 7193 7841 L: http://uk.linkedin.com/in/andersenhc http://www.nokenode.com/ *Unique Gifts, Collectables, Artwork* *Come one, come all to.... *www.corinnajasmine.com * * On 20 February 2013 12:28, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote: > Hi all: > > True but there are not many R on R, Python, PHP, ASP.Net, JavaScript and > HTML developers on this list, in fact darn few web designer here of any > level. There are also very few people who have any knowledge of servers, > other than for limited network use. If the word Linux is not in your > development vocabulary it is time to start learning. Another word like HTML > should just look like a challenge and not something to be avoided. I have > not heard of anyone talking about the great app they just wrote for some > Tablet or Smartphone?...yet. > > Any developer with an eye to the future had better be looking at the > browser > instead of the desktop. If not, the best development work you can hope for > in the future, is maintaining other programmer's (and I use that title > liberally) crap until the client moves to the web. > > Because most of the desktop apps are history, there will never be another > replacement for MS Access...they are just are not needed. > > If any of you have been frequenting the DBA-Tech list you will know > discussion has been argued at some length but also would have seen many > links to great new technologies and not just items with a MS seal of > approval. (or Smartphone/iPhone, tablet, Linux or Apple for that matter.) > > As I am "sort" of retired, I can help anyone willing to take the plunge but > I will not build your next website, product app, setup your server, install > your Linux distro or web-database for you. ;-) > > So get with the program, get to work you old farts and quit whining!!! ;-) > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Hans-Christian > Andersen > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 8:33 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Tony's comments - Part 2 > > My issue with this list is that is focused on Microsoft tech and so I don't > have a lot to say. When I do have something to say, I feel it is often met > with silence, unless it is something that is a hot button issue (ie. Apple, > Windows 8, state of the job market, etc). Maybe it's because most of you > know each other well and I'm just an outsider. > > Maybe we should add a few new mailing lists. For instance one for Linux, > since Jim, Arthur and I all have an interest in this. > > Best regards, > Hans-Christian Andersen > > > On 20 Feb 2013, at 07:58, "Jim Dettman" <jimdettman at verizon.net> wrote: > > > The other thing is that AccessD has not changed in many, many, years and > > the list format is limiting. John just made the comment "We were going > to > > have a discussion about other forms that the list could you use instead > of > > just a list. That hasn't happened but it may yet." > > > > May happen? Like when? Wasn't it months ago it was talked about? or > > changes to the web site? Don't take me wrong, I'm not trying to be > overly > > critical (for example, where is *my* contribution). My point is that > > Access D has remained virtually unchanged since it's beginning. Is it > any > > wonder there are not new members? There's nothing here to attract them. > > Blogging, Articles, uploads, etc should have been done years ago (and > just > > as an FYI, we had the same discussions on EE about 7-8 years ago). I > belong > > to a local board for dirt bike riders and it's got way more features then > > Access D has (it's a simple machines board and cost approx $60/yr). The > > times have changed and Access D has not. > > > > And while I applaud the article from Arthur and John; guys the horse > left > > the barn years ago. These would have been killer articles ten years > back, > > but now? No one is building anything sophisticated in VBA anymore. Look > to > > the 3rd party world; do you see any of the old standby's updated for 64 > bit? > > No. Stephan has retired from all things Access, FMS is really not > cranking > > out any new stuff, MZ Tools has been on version 3 for years now, and > Smart > > Indenter hasn't been updated beyond A2003. > > > > Arthur did make one point that I disagree with "There is also the > > possibility that our discussions have acquired such a narrow focus as to > be > > intelligible only to the Accesserati." > > > > If anything, the opposite is true and is something I complained about a > > couple of years back; to a certain extent, we seem to talk about just > about > > anything and everything here now. It's not just Access anymore and I > > believe I share some of Tony's feelings on this as well. I got tired of > the > > list several years back after seeing nothing new from anyone, seeing the > > same stuff over and over (how many PK debates have we had), and reading > > post after post from John about his latest SQL Server/Windows Server > > adventures, networking in his house, etc., which had nothing to do with > > Access. > > > > But everyone basically said "times have changed and we all do a lot more > > then just Access now", which is totally correct. A list re-organization > was > > suggested back then. But once again, nothing ever happened and here we > are > > a couple of years latter with nothing changed, having the same > conversation > > all over again. > > > > Jim > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >