[AccessD] AccessD never changes

Well said Charlotte.

Jim

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 4:31 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] AccessD never changes

Ken,

I doubt you'll find much fluster in this group, but thanks for thinking
we're still capable of it.  Access is moving away from the mossy backs; but
as I just discovered from a phone interview, users are still rolling their
own Access databases (along with some VB 6 developers who don't really
think in Access) and IT departments still need people to help document,
untangle, and migrate them because IT DOESN'T SUPPORT ACCESS!  I don't know
how I would make a living doing such a thing, but I do get contract work
from it on occasion.

The point is, we can't make Access relevant by simply applying our brains
to it, no matter how many people post.  I will be playing with Access 2013
on Windows 8 to see what it might offer for that kind of platform, but I
don't expect there to be a rush to use it.  The gap between user and
developer has widened with Windows 8/Access 2013 even further than it was
before.  I'm not even sure how a newcomer could learn to build anything in
2013 on the new platform, so I'm fiddling with it.  Trying to move the list
to a new platform is even more of a disconnect, and I wouldn't encourage
anyone to try it without wearing Kevlar

No hard feelings.  I don't take anything personally anymore!

Charlotte

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Kenneth Ismert <kismert at gmail.com> wrote:

> >
> > Charlotte Foust
> >
> > Why should we be leading a pack? ...
> >
>
> Charlotte,
>
> I think the group in the past has brought up a lot of people from relative
> noob status to fairly competent developers. For a serious newcomer, this
> was where the rubber met the road.
>
> Anyhow, this topic has a a familiar devolution:
>
> Dissenter: The group is going downhill!
> Group: What?!? We love it like this -- it should never change! (Long
> reminiscences about the glory days of the past)
> Dissenter: Show numbers that demonstrate a growing group.
> Group: (silence)
> Dissenter: Show one way that we are relevant, or excel in some way that
> would draw new people in.
> Group: Why should we be relevant? We don't like those new people anyway.
> Dissenter: What about Groups X, Y and Z, all of which have bigger-name
> experts, higher post volumes and more on-topic posts?
> Group: (grumble mumble)
> Dissenter: So what exactly is our purpose? Shouldn't we own up to the fact
> that we have become an old fart's social club?
> Group: Why, if it wasn't for our lumbago, we'd get after you, you
> rapscallion!
>
> It's just funny to me how many people here are not willing to acknowledge
> the obvious, and are flustered by those who point it out.
>
> -Ken
>
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