[AccessD] AccessD never changes

True. If I were not an MBA/CPA and several years experience I could not get
75 per hr 1099 basis. And now I font have work because my client cut back.
We are still in recession. If you are in a contractor role without
potential for grooming for management.... and very lucky... you can forget
about making big money in IT unless you write apps.

I dont think the big money will ever be there again for pay as you go
because all systems are going enterprise plus cloud and all user
experiences getting dummef down and commoditized.

I feel like maybe I will have to beg people to let me do stuff for them for
free soon. Or go back to working on a functional team instead of
development.
On Feb 23, 2013 11:09 AM, "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Well said Charlotte.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 4:31 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] AccessD never changes
>
> Ken,
>
> I doubt you'll find much fluster in this group, but thanks for thinking
> we're still capable of it.  Access is moving away from the mossy backs; but
> as I just discovered from a phone interview, users are still rolling their
> own Access databases (along with some VB 6 developers who don't really
> think in Access) and IT departments still need people to help document,
> untangle, and migrate them because IT DOESN'T SUPPORT ACCESS!  I don't know
> how I would make a living doing such a thing, but I do get contract work
> from it on occasion.
>
> The point is, we can't make Access relevant by simply applying our brains
> to it, no matter how many people post.  I will be playing with Access 2013
> on Windows 8 to see what it might offer for that kind of platform, but I
> don't expect there to be a rush to use it.  The gap between user and
> developer has widened with Windows 8/Access 2013 even further than it was
> before.  I'm not even sure how a newcomer could learn to build anything in
> 2013 on the new platform, so I'm fiddling with it.  Trying to move the list
> to a new platform is even more of a disconnect, and I wouldn't encourage
> anyone to try it without wearing Kevlar
>
> No hard feelings.  I don't take anything personally anymore!
>
> Charlotte
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Kenneth Ismert <kismert at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > >
> > > Charlotte Foust
> > >
> > > Why should we be leading a pack? ...
> > >
> >
> > Charlotte,
> >
> > I think the group in the past has brought up a lot of people from
> relative
> > noob status to fairly competent developers. For a serious newcomer, this
> > was where the rubber met the road.
> >
> > Anyhow, this topic has a a familiar devolution:
> >
> > Dissenter: The group is going downhill!
> > Group: What?!? We love it like this -- it should never change! (Long
> > reminiscences about the glory days of the past)
> > Dissenter: Show numbers that demonstrate a growing group.
> > Group: (silence)
> > Dissenter: Show one way that we are relevant, or excel in some way that
> > would draw new people in.
> > Group: Why should we be relevant? We don't like those new people anyway.
> > Dissenter: What about Groups X, Y and Z, all of which have bigger-name
> > experts, higher post volumes and more on-topic posts?
> > Group: (grumble mumble)
> > Dissenter: So what exactly is our purpose? Shouldn't we own up to the
> fact
> > that we have become an old fart's social club?
> > Group: Why, if it wasn't for our lumbago, we'd get after you, you
> > rapscallion!
> >
> > It's just funny to me how many people here are not willing to acknowledge
> > the obvious, and are flustered by those who point it out.
> >
> > -Ken
> >
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