[AccessD] I was not going to post this

Arthur,

Thank you for an object lesson in making it to the Bozo list.

Maybe as you know so much, you could have posted some useful answers to the 
requests for help, and advice, or even one of the 'discussion' threads - 
maybe even the one discussing the various uses of RANGE and array and the 
Variant type.

I am under the impression that the Excel-L group does it's best to assist 
those venturing into the (whatever your assessment) world of VBA and the 
more difficult use of Functions in Excel.

And as someone using Excel, and supporting those using it, I have no problem 
stating that many of the problems I (and the group) address are those 
associated with a lack of understanding of the linmitations associated with 
computing imposed by those not interested in learning on those trying to 
learn (without proper training) to use the Excel they have been told is to 
be used.

JimB

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:11 AM
Subject: [AccessD] I was not going to post this


> For some reason I ended up joining a list about Excel
> EXCEL-L at peach.ease.lsoft.com),  mistaking it for one our our lists. Wow 
> was
> I wrong/ These people need more than a lifetime of help. Unfortunately, as
> I age, I don't have that much time.. .
>
> To be fair, it's a user's group not a developer's group, and it does shed
> some light on the differenence.
>
> The scary part is that some of these people fancy themselves as "Quants",
> short for Quantitative Analysts, which means that they are risking the
> hard-earned money that others have made and invested in this or that fund.
> And I am aware of many of their algorithms, having once worked for a
> Bermudian hedge fund, which at least had the sense to use SQL Server 
> rather
> then Excel.
>
> This seriously frightens me. These Excel listers, save on or two, don't
> even know that there is a difference between a Range and an Array.
>
> The prospect that these people are playing with millions of dollars of
> money belonging to other people is truly frightening. The up-side is that 
> I
> have invested zero dollars in the opinions of these fools; the down-side 
> is
> that many several millions have, and I fear for their prospects.
>
> I guess what I am saying is this: if you want to realize what a valuable
> group this one is, just go visit that one for a minute or two. To think
> that these people are waging millions of other people's dollars on their
> "feelings" is ghastly.
>
> Hold onto your wallet; trust no one, especially if they come bearing a
> spreadsheet.Yes, there are tools available to audit spreadsheets, and I
> trust them. But in their absence. do not trust anyone. These people are
> jokers, fools or scammers. Take your pick.
>
> I do not fancy myself as an Excel guru. But once I learned the model, I 
> had
> no problem doing some fancy footwork in Excel. Bur rhis goes to way that
> there is a difference between a programmer and a user. The frightening 
> part
> is that users equipped with Excel are making decisions involving millions
> of other people's dollars.
>
> -- 
> Arthur
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