From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov  1 06:56:25 2013
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 12:56:25 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour
Message-ID: <007901ced6f9$6404f3d0$2c0edb70$@cactus.dk>

Hi all

This is from Russia. Totally cute:

http://bestpozitiv.ru/video/utyata-v-akvaparke/

/gustav


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Nov  1 07:06:26 2013
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 08:06:26 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour
In-Reply-To: <007901ced6f9$6404f3d0$2c0edb70$@cactus.dk>
References: <007901ced6f9$6404f3d0$2c0edb70$@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1h0iPeNAA82DNptVQs=SUPw1RKjVR1AuXdY7Wr3cbNsRg@mail.gmail.com>

Gustav,

You are my best friend! Where do you find this stuff. This one is totally
hilarious. That's why I love you LOL. Ducks on planks. Only you, my bro.
LOL thank you.


On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> This is from Russia. Totally cute:
>
> http://bestpozitiv.ru/video/utyata-v-akvaparke/
>
> /gustav
>
> --
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>



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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Nov  1 10:09:06 2013
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 09:09:06 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour
In-Reply-To: <007901ced6f9$6404f3d0$2c0edb70$@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <516039640.48028183.1383318546476.JavaMail.root@cds002>

I found that hilarious. :-)

Thanks for posting.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, 1 November, 2013 4:56:25 AM
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour

Hi all

This is from Russia. Totally cute:

http://bestpozitiv.ru/video/utyata-v-akvaparke/

/gustav

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From charlotte.foust at gmail.com  Fri Nov  1 11:29:18 2013
From: charlotte.foust at gmail.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 09:29:18 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour
In-Reply-To: <007901ced6f9$6404f3d0$2c0edb70$@cactus.dk>
References: <007901ced6f9$6404f3d0$2c0edb70$@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <CAH+Met92v4MyABSkt11FjKeubfMK9kBP+9QuGgmbrMG68JErLw@mail.gmail.com>

That is wonderful!  Who knew ducklings like water slides as much as
children do?

Charlotte


On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 4:56 AM, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> This is from Russia. Totally cute:
>
> http://bestpozitiv.ru/video/utyata-v-akvaparke/
>
> /gustav
>
> --
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

From jimdettman at verizon.net  Fri Nov  1 14:51:55 2013
From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 15:51:55 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour
In-Reply-To: <CAH+Met92v4MyABSkt11FjKeubfMK9kBP+9QuGgmbrMG68JErLw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <007901ced6f9$6404f3d0$2c0edb70$@cactus.dk>
	<CAH+Met92v4MyABSkt11FjKeubfMK9kBP+9QuGgmbrMG68JErLw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F1C4103DAD4143FF9E829ECD4ADF9602@XPS>


 If you liked that, try this:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xEX-48RHCY

Jim. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 12:29 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour

That is wonderful!  Who knew ducklings like water slides as much as
children do?

Charlotte


On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 4:56 AM, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> This is from Russia. Totally cute:
>
> http://bestpozitiv.ru/video/utyata-v-akvaparke/
>
> /gustav
>
> --
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
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From dkalsow at yahoo.com  Fri Nov  1 14:51:05 2013
From: dkalsow at yahoo.com (Dale Kalsow)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 12:51:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Web Page Error
Message-ID: <1383335465.90789.YahooMailNeo@web125604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I have written some code in vba in excel.? The code opens a web site and from data in the spreadsheet fills in the same web form from each row of data.? If the web form does not come back with any data, the vba code closes it.? However, if it does find some data, it is supposed to leave the web form open.? The leaving it open part is not working.? Instead it throws an error.? Can anyone help me fix the error?? The error is:? Run-time error '91':? Object variable or With block variable not set.? I am getting this error in the following block of code
?
?i = 0: blnLoop = True: intI = objCollection.Length
?????????? While blnLoop
?????????? 
??????????????? MsgBox (objCollection(i).classname)
??????????????????? If objCollection(i).classname = "NoResultsSummaryText" Then
??????????????????? IE.Quit
??????????? 
??????????????????? blnLoop = False
?????????????? End If
?????????????? i = i + 1
?????????????? If i >= intI Then blnLoop = False
?????????? Wend
?
specifically on the:? If objCollection(i).classname = "NoResultsSummaryText" Then
?
line of code.
?
Does anyone see how I can fix this?
?
Thanks!
?
Dale

From davidalangibson2010 at gmail.com  Fri Nov  1 15:32:39 2013
From: davidalangibson2010 at gmail.com (David A Gibson)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 15:32:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour
Message-ID: <030c01ced741$82ad88e0$88089aa0$@gmail.com>

One year, I decided to buy my mother-in-law a cemetery plot as
a Christmas gift...

The next year, I didn't buy her a gift.

When she asked me why, I replied,

"Well, you still haven't used the gift I bought you last year!"

And that's how the fight started.....

________________________________


My wife and I were watching Who Wants To Be A Millionaire while
we were in bed.

I turned to her and said, 'Do you want to have Sex?'

'No,' she answered. I then said,

'Is that your final answer?'

She didn't even look at me this time, simply saying, 'Yes..'

So I said, "Then I'd like to phone a friend."

And that's when the fight started...

________________________________


My wife and I were sitting at a table at her high school
reunion, and she kept staring at a drunken man swigging his
drink as he sat alone at a nearby table.

I asked her, "Do you know him?"

"Yes", she sighed,

"He's my old boyfriend. I understand he took to drinking
right after we split up those many years ago, and I hear he
hasn't been sober since."

"My God!" I said, "Who would think a person could go on
celebrating that long?"

And then the fight started...

________________________________


When our lawn mower broke and wouldn't run, my wife kept hinting
to me that I should get it fixed. But, somehow I always had
something else to take care of first, the shed, the boat,
making beer.. Always something more important to me. Finally she
thought of a clever way to make her point.

When I arrived home one day, I found her seated in the tall
grass, busily snipping away with a tiny pair of sewing
scissors. I watched silently for a short time and then went into
the house. I was gone only a minute, and when I came out again
I handed her a toothbrush. I said, "When you finish cutting the
grass, you might as well sweep the driveway."

The doctors say I will walk again, but I will always have a limp.

______________________________

My wife sat down next to me as I was flipping channels.

She asked, "What's on TV?"

I said, "Dust."

And then the fight started...

________________________________


Saturday morning I got up early, quietly dressed, made my
lunch, and slipped quietly into the garage. I hooked up the
boat up to the van and proceeded to back out into a torrential
downpour. The wind was blowing 50mph, so I pulled back into the
garage, turned on the radio, and discovered that the weather
would be bad all day.

I went back into the house, quietly undressed, and slipped back
into bed. I cuddled up to my wife's back; now with a different
anticipation, and whispered, "The weather out there is
terrible."

My loving wife of 5 years replied, "And, can you believe my
stupid husband is out fishing in that?"

And that's how the fight started...

_______________________________


My wife was hinting about what she wanted for our upcoming
anniversary.

She said, "I want something shiny that goes from 0 to 150 in
about 3 seconds."

I bought her a bathroom scale.

And then the fight started......

______________________________


After retiring, I went to the Social Security office to apply
for Social Security.

The woman behind the counter asked me for my driver's License to
verify my age.

I looked in my pockets and realized I had left my wallet at
home. I told the woman that I was very sorry, but I would have
to go home and come back later.

The woman said, 'Unbutton your shirt'.

So I opened my shirt revealing my curly silver hair.

She said, 'That silver hair on your chest is proof enough for
me' and she processed my Social Security application.

When I got home, I excitedly told my wife about my experience at
the Social Security office. She said, 'You should have dropped
your pants. You might have gotten disability too.'

And then the fight started...

________________________________


My wife was standing nude, looking in the bedroom mirror.

She was not happy with what she saw and said to me,

"I feel horrible; I look old, fat and ugly. I really need you
to pay me a compliment.'

I replied, "Your eyesight's darn near perfect."

And then the fight started........

________________________________


I rear-ended a car this morning...the start of a REALLY bad day!

The driver got out of the other car, and he was a DWARF!!

He looked up at me and said 'I am NOT Happy!'

So I said, 'Well, which one ARE you then?'

That's how the fight started.


From davidalangibson2010 at gmail.com  Fri Nov  1 15:46:00 2013
From: davidalangibson2010 at gmail.com (David A Gibson)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 15:46:00 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour
In-Reply-To: <F1C4103DAD4143FF9E829ECD4ADF9602@XPS>
References: <007901ced6f9$6404f3d0$2c0edb70$@cactus.dk>
	<CAH+Met92v4MyABSkt11FjKeubfMK9kBP+9QuGgmbrMG68JErLw@mail.gmail.com>
	<F1C4103DAD4143FF9E829ECD4ADF9602@XPS>
Message-ID: <032701ced743$5fd0c060$1f724120$@gmail.com>

A self-entertaining dachshund.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PcL6-mjRNk

David Gibson

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 2:52 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour


 If you liked that, try this:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xEX-48RHCY

Jim. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 12:29 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour

That is wonderful!  Who knew ducklings like water slides as much as children
do?

Charlotte


On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 4:56 AM, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> This is from Russia. Totally cute:
>
> http://bestpozitiv.ru/video/utyata-v-akvaparke/
>
> /gustav
>
> --
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Nov  1 19:33:31 2013
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 18:33:31 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour
In-Reply-To: <032701ced743$5fd0c060$1f724120$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1289247278.48679470.1383352411066.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Ha ha ha ...just love it.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "David A Gibson" <davidalangibson2010 at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, 1 November, 2013 1:46:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour

A self-entertaining dachshund.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PcL6-mjRNk

David Gibson

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 2:52 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour


 If you liked that, try this:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xEX-48RHCY

Jim. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 12:29 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour

That is wonderful!  Who knew ducklings like water slides as much as children
do?

Charlotte


On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 4:56 AM, Gustav Brock <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> This is from Russia. Totally cute:
>
> http://bestpozitiv.ru/video/utyata-v-akvaparke/
>
> /gustav
>
> --
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Nov  1 19:38:15 2013
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 18:38:15 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour
In-Reply-To: <030c01ced741$82ad88e0$88089aa0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1171792039.48681989.1383352695338.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Very good...ROTF.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "David A Gibson" <davidalangibson2010 at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, 1 November, 2013 1:32:39 PM
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humour

One year, I decided to buy my mother-in-law a cemetery plot as
a Christmas gift...

The next year, I didn't buy her a gift.

When she asked me why, I replied,

"Well, you still haven't used the gift I bought you last year!"

And that's how the fight started.....

________________________________


My wife and I were watching Who Wants To Be A Millionaire while
we were in bed.

I turned to her and said, 'Do you want to have Sex?'

'No,' she answered. I then said,

'Is that your final answer?'

She didn't even look at me this time, simply saying, 'Yes..'

So I said, "Then I'd like to phone a friend."

And that's when the fight started...

________________________________


My wife and I were sitting at a table at her high school
reunion, and she kept staring at a drunken man swigging his
drink as he sat alone at a nearby table.

I asked her, "Do you know him?"

"Yes", she sighed,

"He's my old boyfriend. I understand he took to drinking
right after we split up those many years ago, and I hear he
hasn't been sober since."

"My God!" I said, "Who would think a person could go on
celebrating that long?"

And then the fight started...

________________________________


When our lawn mower broke and wouldn't run, my wife kept hinting
to me that I should get it fixed. But, somehow I always had
something else to take care of first, the shed, the boat,
making beer.. Always something more important to me. Finally she
thought of a clever way to make her point.

When I arrived home one day, I found her seated in the tall
grass, busily snipping away with a tiny pair of sewing
scissors. I watched silently for a short time and then went into
the house. I was gone only a minute, and when I came out again
I handed her a toothbrush. I said, "When you finish cutting the
grass, you might as well sweep the driveway."

The doctors say I will walk again, but I will always have a limp.

______________________________

My wife sat down next to me as I was flipping channels.

She asked, "What's on TV?"

I said, "Dust."

And then the fight started...

________________________________


Saturday morning I got up early, quietly dressed, made my
lunch, and slipped quietly into the garage. I hooked up the
boat up to the van and proceeded to back out into a torrential
downpour. The wind was blowing 50mph, so I pulled back into the
garage, turned on the radio, and discovered that the weather
would be bad all day.

I went back into the house, quietly undressed, and slipped back
into bed. I cuddled up to my wife's back; now with a different
anticipation, and whispered, "The weather out there is
terrible."

My loving wife of 5 years replied, "And, can you believe my
stupid husband is out fishing in that?"

And that's how the fight started...

_______________________________


My wife was hinting about what she wanted for our upcoming
anniversary.

She said, "I want something shiny that goes from 0 to 150 in
about 3 seconds."

I bought her a bathroom scale.

And then the fight started......

______________________________


After retiring, I went to the Social Security office to apply
for Social Security.

The woman behind the counter asked me for my driver's License to
verify my age.

I looked in my pockets and realized I had left my wallet at
home. I told the woman that I was very sorry, but I would have
to go home and come back later.

The woman said, 'Unbutton your shirt'.

So I opened my shirt revealing my curly silver hair.

She said, 'That silver hair on your chest is proof enough for
me' and she processed my Social Security application.

When I got home, I excitedly told my wife about my experience at
the Social Security office. She said, 'You should have dropped
your pants. You might have gotten disability too.'

And then the fight started...

________________________________


My wife was standing nude, looking in the bedroom mirror.

She was not happy with what she saw and said to me,

"I feel horrible; I look old, fat and ugly. I really need you
to pay me a compliment.'

I replied, "Your eyesight's darn near perfect."

And then the fight started........

________________________________


I rear-ended a car this morning...the start of a REALLY bad day!

The driver got out of the other car, and he was a DWARF!!

He looked up at me and said 'I am NOT Happy!'

So I said, 'Well, which one ARE you then?'

That's how the fight started.

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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Sat Nov  2 01:31:43 2013
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 19:31:43 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Maths Simplification
Message-ID: <001101ced795$3276d2b0$97647810$@dalyn.co.nz>

Not strictly Access but here goes.

 

I have a number (X) that measures the number of text messages to be sent in
a batch.

In a batch Y messages will fail to send.

Any failed messages will be sent as a fresh batch which will also have Y
messages that will fail to send.

The number of times a set of messages should be resent is Z

 

The formula to calculate how many messages are sent including resends is:

 

X + (X*Y^1) + (X*Y^2) .. + (X*Y^Z)

 

For example, 100 messages with a 20% fail rate to be sent 3 times is:

 

100 + (100 * .2) + (100 * .2^2) = 100 + 20 + 4 = 124

 

I could write this as a loop for Z times and add the values but I was
wondering if there was a single line formula which does the same thing?

 

Just curious.

 

Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
Wellington, New Zealand

 

 

 


From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Nov  2 02:43:59 2013
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 17:43:59 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Maths Simplification
In-Reply-To: <001101ced795$3276d2b0$97647810$@dalyn.co.nz>
References: <001101ced795$3276d2b0$97647810$@dalyn.co.nz>
Message-ID: <5274AD3F.650.45A3D44@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

It can also be written as  x * (y ^ 0  +.... y ^ 1 ... y  ^  z)

It is called  a Geometric series. The general solution  is:

s =  x * (1-y^z)/(1-y) 

So: x = 100, y = 0.2 and z = 3

100 * (1 - 0.2 ^ 3) / (1 - 0.2)  =   124

-- 
Stuart


On 2 Nov 2013 at 19:31, David Emerson wrote:

> Not strictly Access but here goes.
> 
> 
> 
> I have a number (X) that measures the number of text messages to be
> sent in a batch.
> 
> In a batch Y messages will fail to send.
> 
> Any failed messages will be sent as a fresh batch which will also have
> Y messages that will fail to send.
> 
> The number of times a set of messages should be resent is Z
> 
> 
> 
> The formula to calculate how many messages are sent including resends
> is:
> 
> 
> 
> X + (X*Y^1) + (X*Y^2) .. + (X*Y^Z)
> 
> 
> 
> For example, 100 messages with a 20% fail rate to be sent 3 times is:
> 
> 
> 
> 100 + (100 * .2) + (100 * .2^2) = 100 + 20 + 4 = 124
> 
> 
> 
> I could write this as a loop for Z times and add the values but I was
> wondering if there was a single line formula which does the same
> thing?
> 
> 
> 
> Just curious.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> David Emerson
> Dalyn Software Ltd
> Wellington, New Zealand
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Sat Nov  2 03:10:54 2013
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 18:10:54 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Maths Simplification
In-Reply-To: <5274AD3F.650.45A3D44@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <001101ced795$3276d2b0$97647810$@dalyn.co.nz>,
	<5274AD3F.650.45A3D44@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <5274B38E.32235.472E066@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

I forgot to mention.  If  y < 1 then it tends towards a limit S=x/(1-y)

In this case  100/(1-0.2) = 125  which is the most that wikk be sent no matter how large Z 
is.


On 2 Nov 2013 at 17:43, Stuart McLachlan wrote:

> It can also be written as  x * (y ^ 0  +.... y ^ 1 ... y  ^  z)
> 
> It is called  a Geometric series. The general solution  is:
> 
> s =  x * (1-y^z)/(1-y) 
> 
> So: x = 100, y = 0.2 and z = 3
> 
> 100 * (1 - 0.2 ^ 3) / (1 - 0.2)  =   124
> 
> -- 
> Stuart
> 
> 
> On 2 Nov 2013 at 19:31, David Emerson wrote:
> 
> > Not strictly Access but here goes.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I have a number (X) that measures the number of text messages to be
> > sent in a batch.
> > 
> > In a batch Y messages will fail to send.
> > 
> > Any failed messages will be sent as a fresh batch which will also
> > have Y messages that will fail to send.
> > 
> > The number of times a set of messages should be resent is Z
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The formula to calculate how many messages are sent including
> > resends is:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > X + (X*Y^1) + (X*Y^2) .. + (X*Y^Z)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > For example, 100 messages with a 20% fail rate to be sent 3 times
> > is:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 100 + (100 * .2) + (100 * .2^2) = 100 + 20 + 4 = 124
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I could write this as a loop for Z times and add the values but I
> > was wondering if there was a single line formula which does the same
> > thing?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Just curious.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > David Emerson
> > Dalyn Software Ltd
> > Wellington, New Zealand
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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From newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz  Sat Nov  2 13:24:41 2013
From: newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz (David Emerson)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 07:24:41 +1300
Subject: [AccessD] Maths Simplification
In-Reply-To: <5274B38E.32235.472E066@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <001101ced795$3276d2b0$97647810$@dalyn.co.nz>,
	<5274AD3F.650.45A3D44@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<5274B38E.32235.472E066@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <000f01ced7f8$cc3dda70$64b98f50$@dalyn.co.nz>

Thanks Stuart.

Regards

David Emerson
Dalyn Software Ltd
Wellington, New Zealand



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Saturday, 2 November 2013 9:11 p.m.
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Maths Simplification

I forgot to mention.  If  y < 1 then it tends towards a limit S=x/(1-y)

In this case  100/(1-0.2) = 125  which is the most that wikk be sent no
matter how large Z is.


On 2 Nov 2013 at 17:43, Stuart McLachlan wrote:

> It can also be written as  x * (y ^ 0  +.... y ^ 1 ... y  ^  z)
> 
> It is called  a Geometric series. The general solution  is:
> 
> s =  x * (1-y^z)/(1-y) 
> 
> So: x = 100, y = 0.2 and z = 3
> 
> 100 * (1 - 0.2 ^ 3) / (1 - 0.2)  =   124
> 
> -- 
> Stuart
> 
> 
> On 2 Nov 2013 at 19:31, David Emerson wrote:
> 
> > Not strictly Access but here goes.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I have a number (X) that measures the number of text messages to be
> > sent in a batch.
> > 
> > In a batch Y messages will fail to send.
> > 
> > Any failed messages will be sent as a fresh batch which will also
> > have Y messages that will fail to send.
> > 
> > The number of times a set of messages should be resent is Z
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The formula to calculate how many messages are sent including
> > resends is:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > X + (X*Y^1) + (X*Y^2) .. + (X*Y^Z)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > For example, 100 messages with a 20% fail rate to be sent 3 times
> > is:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 100 + (100 * .2) + (100 * .2^2) = 100 + 20 + 4 = 124
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I could write this as a loop for Z times and add the values but I
> > was wondering if there was a single line formula which does the same
> > thing?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Just curious.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > David Emerson
> > Dalyn Software Ltd
> > Wellington, New Zealand
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > AccessD mailing list
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> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > 
> 
> 
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From charlotte.foust at gmail.com  Sat Nov  2 14:31:40 2013
From: charlotte.foust at gmail.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 12:31:40 -0700
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
In-Reply-To: <CAH+Met8t9tDC51NnXSk=N8HQDXtxGbQh6MjNfa8Hsf16vs5uaQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH+Met8t9tDC51NnXSk=N8HQDXtxGbQh6MjNfa8Hsf16vs5uaQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAH+Met9-uxbxqtGkEdD68QJ6RqpLVKJsN-_LMePXbzasyuq4rA@mail.gmail.com>

Anybody have good or bad experience to report on this? I put it on my
tablet pc and don't see much difference overall.   The so-called start
button just brings up the same screen as the windows button.  I like the
new small button size and the fact that new apps aren't automatically added
to the start screen.  I haven't seen any performance differences.

Charlotte

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Sat Nov  2 14:51:24 2013
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 15:51:24 -0400
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
In-Reply-To: <CAH+Met9-uxbxqtGkEdD68QJ6RqpLVKJsN-_LMePXbzasyuq4rA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH+Met8t9tDC51NnXSk=N8HQDXtxGbQh6MjNfa8Hsf16vs5uaQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAH+Met9-uxbxqtGkEdD68QJ6RqpLVKJsN-_LMePXbzasyuq4rA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1io3w47zj+FZ2faMxY5oEq8TA0UTSPgDKeid7N3vtSuZA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Charlotte.

I guess that I am a reluctant convert. When I first tried Windows 8 I hated
it. But after two days, I grew familiar with what to do. The single biggest
thing was comprehending what the Windows key could do, and then suddenly I
grew comfortable in this new environment. And then along came 8.1 and it
fixed some rather egregious errors in 8,0


On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Charlotte Foust
<charlotte.foust at gmail.com>wrote:

> Anybody have good or bad experience to report on this? I put it on my
> tablet pc and don't see much difference overall.   The so-called start
> button just brings up the same screen as the windows button.  I like the
> new small button size and the fact that new apps aren't automatically added
> to the start screen.  I haven't seen any performance differences.
>
> Charlotte
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Nov  2 16:18:08 2013
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 15:18:08 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [AccessD] Maths Simplification
In-Reply-To: <5274AD3F.650.45A3D44@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <480685839.49259569.1383427088745.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Brilliant.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, 2 November, 2013 12:43:59 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Maths Simplification

It can also be written as  x * (y ^ 0  +.... y ^ 1 ... y  ^  z)

It is called  a Geometric series. The general solution  is:

s =  x * (1-y^z)/(1-y) 

So: x = 100, y = 0.2 and z = 3

100 * (1 - 0.2 ^ 3) / (1 - 0.2)  =   124

-- 
Stuart


On 2 Nov 2013 at 19:31, David Emerson wrote:

> Not strictly Access but here goes.
> 
> 
> 
> I have a number (X) that measures the number of text messages to be
> sent in a batch.
> 
> In a batch Y messages will fail to send.
> 
> Any failed messages will be sent as a fresh batch which will also have
> Y messages that will fail to send.
> 
> The number of times a set of messages should be resent is Z
> 
> 
> 
> The formula to calculate how many messages are sent including resends
> is:
> 
> 
> 
> X + (X*Y^1) + (X*Y^2) .. + (X*Y^Z)
> 
> 
> 
> For example, 100 messages with a 20% fail rate to be sent 3 times is:
> 
> 
> 
> 100 + (100 * .2) + (100 * .2^2) = 100 + 20 + 4 = 124
> 
> 
> 
> I could write this as a loop for Z times and add the values but I was
> wondering if there was a single line formula which does the same
> thing?
> 
> 
> 
> Just curious.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> David Emerson
> Dalyn Software Ltd
> Wellington, New Zealand
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From paul at wordwright.org  Sun Nov  3 12:41:01 2013
From: paul at wordwright.org (paul)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 18:41:01 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
In-Reply-To: <CAH+Met9-uxbxqtGkEdD68QJ6RqpLVKJsN-_LMePXbzasyuq4rA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH+Met8t9tDC51NnXSk=N8HQDXtxGbQh6MjNfa8Hsf16vs5uaQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAH+Met9-uxbxqtGkEdD68QJ6RqpLVKJsN-_LMePXbzasyuq4rA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKoNfVv5z-ECbtLWyYjUhzQdHb_QXWA_OZsX3h_mc9UN2eZUww@mail.gmail.com>

Well done, Charlotte, for downloading 8.1.

Win 8 killed my PC and I chose to stay with 7 for my replacement
desktop. It loaded onto my laptop without problems, but recently when
I've tried to upgrade to 8.1 (hopefully it is an upgrade), I keep
getting messages saying that the session failed.

When I compare the performance of the two machines, win 7 is quite the
better system.

All the best
paul

On 2 November 2013 19:31, Charlotte Foust <charlotte.foust at gmail.com> wrote:
> Anybody have good or bad experience to report on this? I put it on my
> tablet pc and don't see much difference overall.   The so-called start
> button just brings up the same screen as the windows button.  I like the
> new small button size and the fact that new apps aren't automatically added
> to the start screen.  I haven't seen any performance differences.
>
> Charlotte
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From charlotte.foust at gmail.com  Sun Nov  3 13:43:26 2013
From: charlotte.foust at gmail.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 11:43:26 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
In-Reply-To: <CAKoNfVv5z-ECbtLWyYjUhzQdHb_QXWA_OZsX3h_mc9UN2eZUww@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH+Met8t9tDC51NnXSk=N8HQDXtxGbQh6MjNfa8Hsf16vs5uaQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAH+Met9-uxbxqtGkEdD68QJ6RqpLVKJsN-_LMePXbzasyuq4rA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKoNfVv5z-ECbtLWyYjUhzQdHb_QXWA_OZsX3h_mc9UN2eZUww@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAH+Met_JuG0=-ACKkaUXcEVF9wyxdtNVPi5z_gqRO4Y_UyowLQ@mail.gmail.com>

I'm not sure how the upgrade from Win 7 to 8.1 works.  I thought you had to
install 8.0 first, but maybe not.  I don't find Win 8 or 8.1 any less
stable than Win 7, it's mostly the UI that's different and 8 loads way
faster than 7.  I actually like Win 8, although I still occasionally have
trouble finding ways to do things that were easy in earlier versions.

Charlotte


On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:41 AM, paul <paul at wordwright.org> wrote:

> Well done, Charlotte, for downloading 8.1.
>
> Win 8 killed my PC and I chose to stay with 7 for my replacement
> desktop. It loaded onto my laptop without problems, but recently when
> I've tried to upgrade to 8.1 (hopefully it is an upgrade), I keep
> getting messages saying that the session failed.
>
> When I compare the performance of the two machines, win 7 is quite the
> better system.
>
> All the best
> paul
>
> On 2 November 2013 19:31, Charlotte Foust <charlotte.foust at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Anybody have good or bad experience to report on this? I put it on my
> > tablet pc and don't see much difference overall.   The so-called start
> > button just brings up the same screen as the windows button.  I like the
> > new small button size and the fact that new apps aren't automatically
> added
> > to the start screen.  I haven't seen any performance differences.
> >
> > Charlotte
> > --
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> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
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>
>
>
> --
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> free, in the original spirit of the web.
> http:www.eBookTrove.com
> And now on Facebook. Hoping for a 'like', if you like.
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From paul at wordwright.org  Sun Nov  3 14:15:26 2013
From: paul at wordwright.org (paul)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 20:15:26 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
In-Reply-To: <CAH+Met_JuG0=-ACKkaUXcEVF9wyxdtNVPi5z_gqRO4Y_UyowLQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH+Met8t9tDC51NnXSk=N8HQDXtxGbQh6MjNfa8Hsf16vs5uaQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAH+Met9-uxbxqtGkEdD68QJ6RqpLVKJsN-_LMePXbzasyuq4rA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKoNfVv5z-ECbtLWyYjUhzQdHb_QXWA_OZsX3h_mc9UN2eZUww@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAH+Met_JuG0=-ACKkaUXcEVF9wyxdtNVPi5z_gqRO4Y_UyowLQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKoNfVtXUvu+CkniZCzfmkq-LBv8dNoa8o9VFvNVfWRsacVWtw@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry, Charlotte, not to be clear. As with so many windows' changes
(even back with the horrendous 95), I was there on the front line,
hoping that this time there would be something groundbreaking.

So, yes, I had Win 8 and within the last few weeks, a fortnight
perhaps. came news of the 8.1 upgrade. However, although the upgrade
began on the machine each time I tried, soon an error message appeared
to say it had failed.

On 3 November 2013 19:43, Charlotte Foust <charlotte.foust at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not sure how the upgrade from Win 7 to 8.1 works.  I thought you had to
> install 8.0 first, but maybe not.  I don't find Win 8 or 8.1 any less
> stable than Win 7, it's mostly the UI that's different and 8 loads way
> faster than 7.  I actually like Win 8, although I still occasionally have
> trouble finding ways to do things that were easy in earlier versions.
>
> Charlotte
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:41 AM, paul <paul at wordwright.org> wrote:
>
>> Well done, Charlotte, for downloading 8.1.
>>
>> Win 8 killed my PC and I chose to stay with 7 for my replacement
>> desktop. It loaded onto my laptop without problems, but recently when
>> I've tried to upgrade to 8.1 (hopefully it is an upgrade), I keep
>> getting messages saying that the session failed.
>>
>> When I compare the performance of the two machines, win 7 is quite the
>> better system.
>>
>> All the best
>> paul
>>
>> On 2 November 2013 19:31, Charlotte Foust <charlotte.foust at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Anybody have good or bad experience to report on this? I put it on my
>> > tablet pc and don't see much difference overall.   The so-called start
>> > button just brings up the same screen as the windows button.  I like the
>> > new small button size and the fact that new apps aren't automatically
>> added
>> > to the start screen.  I haven't seen any performance differences.
>> >
>> > Charlotte
>> > --
>> > AccessD mailing list
>> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> You're invited to help yourself from my huge collection of ebooks. All
>> free, in the original spirit of the web.
>> http:www.eBookTrove.com
>> And now on Facebook. Hoping for a 'like', if you like.
>> https://www.facebook.com/eBookTrove
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From darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au  Sun Nov  3 17:27:15 2013
From: darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au (Darryl Collins)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 23:27:15 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
In-Reply-To: <CAH+Met9-uxbxqtGkEdD68QJ6RqpLVKJsN-_LMePXbzasyuq4rA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAH+Met8t9tDC51NnXSk=N8HQDXtxGbQh6MjNfa8Hsf16vs5uaQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAH+Met9-uxbxqtGkEdD68QJ6RqpLVKJsN-_LMePXbzasyuq4rA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0fba328c52b441f493f805a893971635@SIXPR04MB048.apcprd04.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Charlotte,

This may be useful.  Ol' Woody is still not a fan from what I can read into his newsletters, but he seems to go over the pros and cons fairly well.
<<http://windowssecrets.com/newsletter/how-to-spend-your-first-hour-with-windows-8-1/>>

Cheers
Darryl.





-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Sunday, 3 November 2013 6:32 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 8.1

Anybody have good or bad experience to report on this? I put it on my
tablet pc and don't see much difference overall.   The so-called start
button just brings up the same screen as the windows button.  I like the new small button size and the fact that new apps aren't automatically added to the start screen.  I haven't seen any performance differences.

Charlotte
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From dkalsow at yahoo.com  Sun Nov  3 19:53:54 2013
From: dkalsow at yahoo.com (Dale Kalsow)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 17:53:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Fw:  Web Page Error
In-Reply-To: <1383335465.90789.YahooMailNeo@web125604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1383335465.90789.YahooMailNeo@web125604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1383530034.47963.YahooMailNeo@web125605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

?I anyone able to answer my question?

Thanks in advance.

Dale?

On Friday, November 1, 2013 2:54 PM, Dale Kalsow <dkalsow at yahoo.com> wrote:
  
I have written some code in vba in excel.? The code opens a web site and from data in the spreadsheet fills in the same web form from each row of data.? If the web form does not come back with any data, the vba code closes it.? However, if it does find some data, it is supposed to leave the web form open.? The leaving it open part is not working.? Instead it throws an error.? Can anyone help me fix the error?? The error is:? Run-time error '91':? Object variable or With block variable not set.? I am getting this error in the following block of code
?
?i = 0: blnLoop = True: intI = objCollection.Length
?????????? While blnLoop
?????????? 
??????????????? MsgBox (objCollection(i).classname)
??????????????????? If objCollection(i).classname = "NoResultsSummaryText" Then
??????????????????? IE.Quit
??????????? 
??????????????????? blnLoop = False
?????????????? End If
?????????????? i = i + 1
?????????????? If i >= intI Then blnLoop = False
?????????? Wend
?
specifically on the:? If objCollection(i).classname = "NoResultsSummaryText" Then
?
line of code.
?
Does anyone see how I can fix this?
?
Thanks!
?
Dale
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sun Nov  3 23:41:11 2013
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 21:41:11 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Fw:  Web Page Error
In-Reply-To: <1383530034.47963.YahooMailNeo@web125605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1383335465.90789.YahooMailNeo@web125604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<1383530034.47963.YahooMailNeo@web125605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C0D63817034B4B36940DBF016923DE3D@HAL9007>


What is the value if I when it throws the error?  IOW is it happening on the
first pas through the loop?

Where do you set objCollection?

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dale Kalsow
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 5:54 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Fw: Web Page Error

?I anyone able to answer my question?

Thanks in advance.

Dale?

On Friday, November 1, 2013 2:54 PM, Dale Kalsow <dkalsow at yahoo.com> wrote:
  
I have written some code in vba in excel.? The code opens a web site and
from data in the spreadsheet fills in the same web form from each row of
data.? If the web form does not come back with any data, the vba code closes
it.? However, if it does find some data, it is supposed to leave the web
form open.? The leaving it open part is not working.? Instead it throws an
error.? Can anyone help me fix the error?? The error is:? Run-time error
'91':? Object variable or With block variable not set.? I am getting this
error in the following block of code
?
?i = 0: blnLoop = True: intI = objCollection.Length
?????????? While blnLoop
?????????? 
??????????????? MsgBox (objCollection(i).classname)
??????????????????? If objCollection(i).classname = "NoResultsSummaryText"
Then
??????????????????? IE.Quit
??????????? 
??????????????????? blnLoop = False
?????????????? End If
?????????????? i = i + 1
?????????????? If i >= intI Then blnLoop = False
?????????? Wend
?
specifically on the:? If objCollection(i).classname = "NoResultsSummaryText"
Then
?
line of code.
?
Does anyone see how I can fix this?
?
Thanks!
?
Dale
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Sun Nov  3 23:59:18 2013
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 21:59:18 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Fw:  Web Page Error
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References: <1383335465.90789.YahooMailNeo@web125604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><1383530034.47963.YahooMailNeo@web125605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<C0D63817034B4B36940DBF016923DE3D@HAL9007>
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Are you overrunning the objCollection because your zero based indexing but
going to objCollection.Length?  IOW if objCollection.Length is 10 and you
start I at zero, you need to bail out of the loop at index 9 (the tenth
iteration) not 10 (the 11th iteration).

Just guessing here...


Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 9:41 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Fw: Web Page Error


What is the value if I when it throws the error?  IOW is it happening on the
first pas through the loop?

Where do you set objCollection?

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dale Kalsow
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 5:54 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] Fw: Web Page Error

?I anyone able to answer my question?

Thanks in advance.

Dale?

On Friday, November 1, 2013 2:54 PM, Dale Kalsow <dkalsow at yahoo.com> wrote:
  
I have written some code in vba in excel.? The code opens a web site and
from data in the spreadsheet fills in the same web form from each row of
data.? If the web form does not come back with any data, the vba code closes
it.? However, if it does find some data, it is supposed to leave the web
form open.? The leaving it open part is not working.? Instead it throws an
error.? Can anyone help me fix the error?? The error is:? Run-time error
'91':? Object variable or With block variable not set.? I am getting this
error in the following block of code
?
?i = 0: blnLoop = True: intI = objCollection.Length
?????????? While blnLoop
?????????? 
??????????????? MsgBox (objCollection(i).classname)
??????????????????? If objCollection(i).classname = "NoResultsSummaryText"
Then
??????????????????? IE.Quit
??????????? 
??????????????????? blnLoop = False
?????????????? End If
?????????????? i = i + 1
?????????????? If i >= intI Then blnLoop = False
?????????? Wend
?
specifically on the:? If objCollection(i).classname = "NoResultsSummaryText"
Then
?
line of code.
?
Does anyone see how I can fix this?
?
Thanks!
?
Dale
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From dkalsow at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  4 10:11:47 2013
From: dkalsow at yahoo.com (Dale Kalsow)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 08:11:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Web Page Error
Message-ID: <1383581507.81847.YahooMailNeo@web125602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

?Set objCollection = IE.document.getElementsByTagName("input")
?????????? i = 0
?????????? While i < objCollection.Length
?????????????? If objCollection(i).Name = "ctl00$ctl00$MainContent$uxSearchWideControl$txtFirstName" Then
?????????????????? 'objCollection(i).Value = ActiveSheet.Range("A1, A5").Value
?????????????????? objCollection(i).Value = strValue
??????????????? ElseIf objCollection(i).Name = "ctl00$ctl00$MainContent$uxSearchWideControl$txtLastName" Then
??????????????????? objCollection(i).Value = ActiveCell.Offset(0, 1).Value
?????????????? Set objCollection = IE.document.getElementsByTagName("a")
?????????????????????? 'If objCollection(i).href = "#" Then
???????????????????????? 'Set objElement = objCollection(i)
?????????????????????? 'End If
?????????????? Else
?????????????????? If objCollection(i).ID = "lnkSearch" And _
????????????????????? objCollection(i).Title = "Search" Then
?????????????????????? Set objElement = objCollection(i)
??????????????????? End If
?????????????? End If
?????????????? i = i + 1
?????????? Wend
?????????? objElement.Click
?????????? Do While IE.Busy
?????????????? Application.Wait DateAdd("s", 1, Now)
?????????? Loop
?????????? Application.Wait DateAdd("s", 3, Now)
?????????? Set objCollection = IE.document.getElementsByTagName("p")
?????????? i = 0: blnLoop = True: intI = objCollection.Length
?????????? While blnLoop
??????????????????? If objCollection(i).classname = "NoResultsSummaryText" Then
??????????????????? IE.Quit
??????????????????? blnLoop = False
?????????????? End If
?????????????? i = i + 1
?????????????? If i >= intI Then blnLoop = False
?????????? Wend

From dkalsow at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  4 10:22:47 2013
From: dkalsow at yahoo.com (Dale Kalsow)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 08:22:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Web Page Error
Message-ID: <1383582167.31907.YahooMailNeo@web125603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

I just send out the code in a separate email to the group.? Could you please look at it and see if you can notice any of the issues you highlighted?
?
Thanks!
?
Dale

From charlotte.foust at gmail.com  Mon Nov  4 12:09:55 2013
From: charlotte.foust at gmail.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 10:09:55 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
In-Reply-To: <0fba328c52b441f493f805a893971635@SIXPR04MB048.apcprd04.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CAH+Met8t9tDC51NnXSk=N8HQDXtxGbQh6MjNfa8Hsf16vs5uaQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAH+Met9-uxbxqtGkEdD68QJ6RqpLVKJsN-_LMePXbzasyuq4rA@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks for the link,  Darryl.  I stay away from Windows Secrets so I hadn't
seen it.  I haven't really explored the differences yet. I'm starting a new
contract today so I might not get to it for a while.

Charlotte
On Nov 3, 2013 3:28 PM, "Darryl Collins" <darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au>
wrote:

> Hi Charlotte,
>
> This may be useful.  Ol' Woody is still not a fan from what I can read
> into his newsletters, but he seems to go over the pros and cons fairly well.
> <<
> http://windowssecrets.com/newsletter/how-to-spend-your-first-hour-with-windows-8-1/
> >>
>
> Cheers
> Darryl.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:
> accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
> Sent: Sunday, 3 November 2013 6:32 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem
> Subject: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
>
> Anybody have good or bad experience to report on this? I put it on my
> tablet pc and don't see much difference overall.   The so-called start
> button just brings up the same screen as the windows button.  I like the
> new small button size and the fact that new apps aren't automatically added
> to the start screen.  I haven't seen any performance differences.
>
> Charlotte
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Nov  4 14:12:42 2013
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 13:12:42 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
In-Reply-To: <CAKoNfVtXUvu+CkniZCzfmkq-LBv8dNoa8o9VFvNVfWRsacVWtw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <786764622.50739230.1383595962839.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Paul:

What was the message? 

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "paul" <paul at wordwright.org>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Sunday, 3 November, 2013 12:15:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8.1

Sorry, Charlotte, not to be clear. As with so many windows' changes
(even back with the horrendous 95), I was there on the front line,
hoping that this time there would be something groundbreaking.

So, yes, I had Win 8 and within the last few weeks, a fortnight
perhaps. came news of the 8.1 upgrade. However, although the upgrade
began on the machine each time I tried, soon an error message appeared
to say it had failed.

On 3 November 2013 19:43, Charlotte Foust <charlotte.foust at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not sure how the upgrade from Win 7 to 8.1 works.  I thought you had to
> install 8.0 first, but maybe not.  I don't find Win 8 or 8.1 any less
> stable than Win 7, it's mostly the UI that's different and 8 loads way
> faster than 7.  I actually like Win 8, although I still occasionally have
> trouble finding ways to do things that were easy in earlier versions.
>
> Charlotte
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:41 AM, paul <paul at wordwright.org> wrote:
>
>> Well done, Charlotte, for downloading 8.1.
>>
>> Win 8 killed my PC and I chose to stay with 7 for my replacement
>> desktop. It loaded onto my laptop without problems, but recently when
>> I've tried to upgrade to 8.1 (hopefully it is an upgrade), I keep
>> getting messages saying that the session failed.
>>
>> When I compare the performance of the two machines, win 7 is quite the
>> better system.
>>
>> All the best
>> paul
>>
>> On 2 November 2013 19:31, Charlotte Foust <charlotte.foust at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Anybody have good or bad experience to report on this? I put it on my
>> > tablet pc and don't see much difference overall.   The so-called start
>> > button just brings up the same screen as the windows button.  I like the
>> > new small button size and the fact that new apps aren't automatically
>> added
>> > to the start screen.  I haven't seen any performance differences.
>> >
>> > Charlotte
>> > --
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>>
>>
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>> free, in the original spirit of the web.
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From paul at wordwright.org  Mon Nov  4 14:41:33 2013
From: paul at wordwright.org (paul)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 20:41:33 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
In-Reply-To: <786764622.50739230.1383595962839.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <CAKoNfVtXUvu+CkniZCzfmkq-LBv8dNoa8o9VFvNVfWRsacVWtw@mail.gmail.com>
	<786764622.50739230.1383595962839.JavaMail.root@cds002>
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Hello Jim
I think this was the website where it began -
http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2013/10/17/windows-8-1-now-available/?win81=

It had been recommended around the middle of last month. This led to
the 8.1 upgrade. As mentioned, the one machine it's safely installed
on is my laptop. So I attempted several times to upgrade online, from
the free upgrade. Each time it started well and began the process, but
before long an error message showed to say that the upgrade had
failed. It offered no explanation.

8 works ok on the laptop, but I can't see any improvement on Windows
7.  If I (crazily) hadn't followed my old habit since 3.1 of trying to
upgrade on the very day a revised OS was offered, I don't think I
would have been tempted by 8. I've regretted it since, I confess -
especially as I lost my PC through it.

Hope this helps, Jim.

All the best
paul

On 4 November 2013 20:12, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> Hi Paul:
>
> What was the message?
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "paul" <paul at wordwright.org>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, 3 November, 2013 12:15:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
>
> Sorry, Charlotte, not to be clear. As with so many windows' changes
> (even back with the horrendous 95), I was there on the front line,
> hoping that this time there would be something groundbreaking.
>
> So, yes, I had Win 8 and within the last few weeks, a fortnight
> perhaps. came news of the 8.1 upgrade. However, although the upgrade
> began on the machine each time I tried, soon an error message appeared
> to say it had failed.
>
> On 3 November 2013 19:43, Charlotte Foust <charlotte.foust at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm not sure how the upgrade from Win 7 to 8.1 works.  I thought you had to
>> install 8.0 first, but maybe not.  I don't find Win 8 or 8.1 any less
>> stable than Win 7, it's mostly the UI that's different and 8 loads way
>> faster than 7.  I actually like Win 8, although I still occasionally have
>> trouble finding ways to do things that were easy in earlier versions.
>>
>> Charlotte
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:41 AM, paul <paul at wordwright.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Well done, Charlotte, for downloading 8.1.
>>>
>>> Win 8 killed my PC and I chose to stay with 7 for my replacement
>>> desktop. It loaded onto my laptop without problems, but recently when
>>> I've tried to upgrade to 8.1 (hopefully it is an upgrade), I keep
>>> getting messages saying that the session failed.
>>>
>>> When I compare the performance of the two machines, win 7 is quite the
>>> better system.
>>>
>>> All the best
>>> paul
>>>
>>> On 2 November 2013 19:31, Charlotte Foust <charlotte.foust at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Anybody have good or bad experience to report on this? I put it on my
>>> > tablet pc and don't see much difference overall.   The so-called start
>>> > button just brings up the same screen as the windows button.  I like the
>>> > new small button size and the fact that new apps aren't automatically
>>> added
>>> > to the start screen.  I haven't seen any performance differences.
>>> >
>>> > Charlotte
>>> > --
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>>> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> free, in the original spirit of the web.
>>> http:www.eBookTrove.com
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Nov  4 15:21:53 2013
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 14:21:53 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
In-Reply-To: <CAKoNfVuR9qa5y077wQhHMnOHmkRkiSPgMAi5g72S4fzW_RwdTQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1424616060.50808803.1383600113243.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Paul:

I have had a similar situation with installing Windows 8 on a client's computer. It seems that the graphic accelerator had to be set on (or was it off?), in the BIOS, on the computer. This is just a wild suggestion. 

Also, depending on the motherboard, the latest hardware driver upgrades must be installed first before attempting to install Windows 8. Windows 8.x seems to have not problem installing on the latest hardware but there appears to have been little effort on supporting legacy hardware (4-5 years or older) and if that hardware does not support a UEFI upgrade, there can be more issues.

Jim       

----- Original Message -----
From: "paul" <paul at wordwright.org>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, 4 November, 2013 12:41:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8.1

Hello Jim
I think this was the website where it began -
http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2013/10/17/windows-8-1-now-available/?win81=

It had been recommended around the middle of last month. This led to
the 8.1 upgrade. As mentioned, the one machine it's safely installed
on is my laptop. So I attempted several times to upgrade online, from
the free upgrade. Each time it started well and began the process, but
before long an error message showed to say that the upgrade had
failed. It offered no explanation.

8 works ok on the laptop, but I can't see any improvement on Windows
7.  If I (crazily) hadn't followed my old habit since 3.1 of trying to
upgrade on the very day a revised OS was offered, I don't think I
would have been tempted by 8. I've regretted it since, I confess -
especially as I lost my PC through it.

Hope this helps, Jim.

All the best
paul

On 4 November 2013 20:12, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> Hi Paul:
>
> What was the message?
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "paul" <paul at wordwright.org>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Sunday, 3 November, 2013 12:15:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
>
> Sorry, Charlotte, not to be clear. As with so many windows' changes
> (even back with the horrendous 95), I was there on the front line,
> hoping that this time there would be something groundbreaking.
>
> So, yes, I had Win 8 and within the last few weeks, a fortnight
> perhaps. came news of the 8.1 upgrade. However, although the upgrade
> began on the machine each time I tried, soon an error message appeared
> to say it had failed.
>
> On 3 November 2013 19:43, Charlotte Foust <charlotte.foust at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm not sure how the upgrade from Win 7 to 8.1 works.  I thought you had to
>> install 8.0 first, but maybe not.  I don't find Win 8 or 8.1 any less
>> stable than Win 7, it's mostly the UI that's different and 8 loads way
>> faster than 7.  I actually like Win 8, although I still occasionally have
>> trouble finding ways to do things that were easy in earlier versions.
>>
>> Charlotte
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:41 AM, paul <paul at wordwright.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Well done, Charlotte, for downloading 8.1.
>>>
>>> Win 8 killed my PC and I chose to stay with 7 for my replacement
>>> desktop. It loaded onto my laptop without problems, but recently when
>>> I've tried to upgrade to 8.1 (hopefully it is an upgrade), I keep
>>> getting messages saying that the session failed.
>>>
>>> When I compare the performance of the two machines, win 7 is quite the
>>> better system.
>>>
>>> All the best
>>> paul
>>>
>>> On 2 November 2013 19:31, Charlotte Foust <charlotte.foust at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Anybody have good or bad experience to report on this? I put it on my
>>> > tablet pc and don't see much difference overall.   The so-called start
>>> > button just brings up the same screen as the windows button.  I like the
>>> > new small button size and the fact that new apps aren't automatically
>>> added
>>> > to the start screen.  I haven't seen any performance differences.
>>> >
>>> > Charlotte
>>> > --
>>> > AccessD mailing list
>>> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> You're invited to help yourself from my huge collection of ebooks. All
>>> free, in the original spirit of the web.
>>> http:www.eBookTrove.com
>>> And now on Facebook. Hoping for a 'like', if you like.
>>> https://www.facebook.com/eBookTrove
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From paul at wordwright.org  Mon Nov  4 15:53:36 2013
From: paul at wordwright.org (paul)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 21:53:36 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
In-Reply-To: <1424616060.50808803.1383600113243.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <CAKoNfVuR9qa5y077wQhHMnOHmkRkiSPgMAi5g72S4fzW_RwdTQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Yes, I follow you, Jim, thanks. Of course, there is no warning like
that. One assumes we can drop the dvd into place, and the rest happens
like magic. It didn't with the PC. I don't think it was older than two
years. I gave it away afterwards to a needy friend. I was able to
install Vista (I think) on it for the friend. Extraordinary to find
that with this OS we have to buy a new licence for each machine.
Amazing how greed has moved into this world in such a gigantic way -
and yet where is the huge cry of complaint!

On 4 November 2013 21:21, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> Hi Paul:
>
> I have had a similar situation with installing Windows 8 on a client's computer. It seems that the graphic accelerator had to be set on (or was it off?), in the BIOS, on the computer. This is just a wild suggestion.
>
> Also, depending on the motherboard, the latest hardware driver upgrades must be installed first before attempting to install Windows 8. Windows 8.x seems to have not problem installing on the latest hardware but there appears to have been little effort on supporting legacy hardware (4-5 years or older) and if that hardware does not support a UEFI upgrade, there can be more issues.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "paul" <paul at wordwright.org>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, 4 November, 2013 12:41:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
>
> Hello Jim
> I think this was the website where it began -
> http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2013/10/17/windows-8-1-now-available/?win81=
>
> It had been recommended around the middle of last month. This led to
> the 8.1 upgrade. As mentioned, the one machine it's safely installed
> on is my laptop. So I attempted several times to upgrade online, from
> the free upgrade. Each time it started well and began the process, but
> before long an error message showed to say that the upgrade had
> failed. It offered no explanation.
>
> 8 works ok on the laptop, but I can't see any improvement on Windows
> 7.  If I (crazily) hadn't followed my old habit since 3.1 of trying to
> upgrade on the very day a revised OS was offered, I don't think I
> would have been tempted by 8. I've regretted it since, I confess -
> especially as I lost my PC through it.
>
> Hope this helps, Jim.
>
> All the best
> paul
>
> On 4 November 2013 20:12, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
>> Hi Paul:
>>
>> What was the message?
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "paul" <paul at wordwright.org>
>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, 3 November, 2013 12:15:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
>>
>> Sorry, Charlotte, not to be clear. As with so many windows' changes
>> (even back with the horrendous 95), I was there on the front line,
>> hoping that this time there would be something groundbreaking.
>>
>> So, yes, I had Win 8 and within the last few weeks, a fortnight
>> perhaps. came news of the 8.1 upgrade. However, although the upgrade
>> began on the machine each time I tried, soon an error message appeared
>> to say it had failed.
>>
>> On 3 November 2013 19:43, Charlotte Foust <charlotte.foust at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I'm not sure how the upgrade from Win 7 to 8.1 works.  I thought you had to
>>> install 8.0 first, but maybe not.  I don't find Win 8 or 8.1 any less
>>> stable than Win 7, it's mostly the UI that's different and 8 loads way
>>> faster than 7.  I actually like Win 8, although I still occasionally have
>>> trouble finding ways to do things that were easy in earlier versions.
>>>
>>> Charlotte
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:41 AM, paul <paul at wordwright.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well done, Charlotte, for downloading 8.1.
>>>>
>>>> Win 8 killed my PC and I chose to stay with 7 for my replacement
>>>> desktop. It loaded onto my laptop without problems, but recently when
>>>> I've tried to upgrade to 8.1 (hopefully it is an upgrade), I keep
>>>> getting messages saying that the session failed.
>>>>
>>>> When I compare the performance of the two machines, win 7 is quite the
>>>> better system.
>>>>
>>>> All the best
>>>> paul
>>>>
>>>> On 2 November 2013 19:31, Charlotte Foust <charlotte.foust at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Anybody have good or bad experience to report on this? I put it on my
>>>> > tablet pc and don't see much difference overall.   The so-called start
>>>> > button just brings up the same screen as the windows button.  I like the
>>>> > new small button size and the fact that new apps aren't automatically
>>>> added
>>>> > to the start screen.  I haven't seen any performance differences.
>>>> >
>>>> > Charlotte
>>>> > --
>>>> > AccessD mailing list
>>>> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>>> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> You're invited to help yourself from my huge collection of ebooks. All
>>>> free, in the original spirit of the web.
>>>> http:www.eBookTrove.com
>>>> And now on Facebook. Hoping for a 'like', if you like.
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/eBookTrove
>>>> --
>>>> AccessD mailing list
>>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>>
>> --
>> AccessD mailing list
>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>> --
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>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
>
> --


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free, in the original spirit of the web.
http:www.eBookTrove.com
And now on Facebook. Hoping for a 'like', if you like.
https://www.facebook.com/eBookTrove


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Mon Nov  4 16:15:10 2013
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 17:15:10 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
In-Reply-To: <1424616060.50808803.1383600113243.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <CAKoNfVuR9qa5y077wQhHMnOHmkRkiSPgMAi5g72S4fzW_RwdTQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1424616060.50808803.1383600113243.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1hDP-UeFeQ__ZtzwgJgAJqqZ_8AxP2oAFWdbh_EX_c3Pw@mail.gmail.com>

Boy o boy o boy. I don't know what I did right but I have none of these
issues. I bought a Dell laptop recently, a fargin' whopper, 8GB RAM and 1TB
hard disk, and Windas 8. HD Died; I phoned Dell and they couriered a
shipping box to me, pre-stamped with From and To addresses. I boxed the
laptop and phoned Purolator and they fetched it and two days later I got
the laptop back, fresh with a new copy of Windows 8. Turned out that was
the day that the free download of 8.1 became available, so I bit the bullet
and now 8.1 is installed. And everything worked perfectly and I am a happy
camper.


On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Paul:
>
> I have had a similar situation with installing Windows 8 on a client's
> computer. It seems that the graphic accelerator had to be set on (or was it
> off?), in the BIOS, on the computer. This is just a wild suggestion.
>
> Also, depending on the motherboard, the latest hardware driver upgrades
> must be installed first before attempting to install Windows 8. Windows 8.x
> seems to have not problem installing on the latest hardware but there
> appears to have been little effort on supporting legacy hardware (4-5 years
> or older) and if that hardware does not support a UEFI upgrade, there can
> be more issues.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "paul" <paul at wordwright.org>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <
> accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, 4 November, 2013 12:41:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
>
> Hello Jim
> I think this was the website where it began -
> http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2013/10/17/windows-8-1-now-available/?win81=
>
> It had been recommended around the middle of last month. This led to
> the 8.1 upgrade. As mentioned, the one machine it's safely installed
> on is my laptop. So I attempted several times to upgrade online, from
> the free upgrade. Each time it started well and began the process, but
> before long an error message showed to say that the upgrade had
> failed. It offered no explanation.
>
> 8 works ok on the laptop, but I can't see any improvement on Windows
> 7.  If I (crazily) hadn't followed my old habit since 3.1 of trying to
> upgrade on the very day a revised OS was offered, I don't think I
> would have been tempted by 8. I've regretted it since, I confess -
> especially as I lost my PC through it.
>
> Hope this helps, Jim.
>
> All the best
> paul
>
> On 4 November 2013 20:12, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> > Hi Paul:
> >
> > What was the message?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "paul" <paul at wordwright.org>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <
> accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, 3 November, 2013 12:15:26 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
> >
> > Sorry, Charlotte, not to be clear. As with so many windows' changes
> > (even back with the horrendous 95), I was there on the front line,
> > hoping that this time there would be something groundbreaking.
> >
> > So, yes, I had Win 8 and within the last few weeks, a fortnight
> > perhaps. came news of the 8.1 upgrade. However, although the upgrade
> > began on the machine each time I tried, soon an error message appeared
> > to say it had failed.
> >
> > On 3 November 2013 19:43, Charlotte Foust <charlotte.foust at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> I'm not sure how the upgrade from Win 7 to 8.1 works.  I thought you
> had to
> >> install 8.0 first, but maybe not.  I don't find Win 8 or 8.1 any less
> >> stable than Win 7, it's mostly the UI that's different and 8 loads way
> >> faster than 7.  I actually like Win 8, although I still occasionally
> have
> >> trouble finding ways to do things that were easy in earlier versions.
> >>
> >> Charlotte
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:41 AM, paul <paul at wordwright.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Well done, Charlotte, for downloading 8.1.
> >>>
> >>> Win 8 killed my PC and I chose to stay with 7 for my replacement
> >>> desktop. It loaded onto my laptop without problems, but recently when
> >>> I've tried to upgrade to 8.1 (hopefully it is an upgrade), I keep
> >>> getting messages saying that the session failed.
> >>>
> >>> When I compare the performance of the two machines, win 7 is quite the
> >>> better system.
> >>>
> >>> All the best
> >>> paul
> >>>
> >>> On 2 November 2013 19:31, Charlotte Foust <charlotte.foust at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > Anybody have good or bad experience to report on this? I put it on my
> >>> > tablet pc and don't see much difference overall.   The so-called
> start
> >>> > button just brings up the same screen as the windows button.  I like
> the
> >>> > new small button size and the fact that new apps aren't automatically
> >>> added
> >>> > to the start screen.  I haven't seen any performance differences.
> >>> >
> >>> > Charlotte
> >>> > --
> >>> > AccessD mailing list
> >>> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> >>> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> >>> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> You're invited to help yourself from my huge collection of ebooks. All
> >>> free, in the original spirit of the web.
> >>> http:www.eBookTrove.com
> >>> And now on Facebook. Hoping for a 'like', if you like.
> >>> https://www.facebook.com/eBookTrove
> >>> --
> >>> AccessD mailing list
> >>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >>>
> > --
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > --
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
>
> --
> You're invited to help yourself from my huge collection of ebooks. All
> free, in the original spirit of the web.
> http:www.eBookTrove.com
> And now on Facebook. Hoping for a 'like', if you like.
> https://www.facebook.com/eBookTrove
> --
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> --
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>



-- 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Nov  4 17:02:48 2013
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 16:02:48 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
In-Reply-To: <CAKoNfVuBNH941RJWhO3aArX=-+sq5iEDBz9rmkQ4AuvDZhUTxQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <367315084.50911798.1383606168687.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Paul:

Being as I am now on a limited budget, (semi) retired and Microsoft has ended the Tech Account system, of which I have depended on for years in getting up to speed, so to support clients, access to inexpensive MS software is no longer possible, all my newer systems are Linux, mostly Ubuntu. It is simple, stupid and runs on everything.

With a bit of work I have been able to run all my applications; MS SQL, Microsoft Office, Skype (and so on), and some really old legacy packages along with some fine of vintage games...even virtual Windows 8.1.

It is a big step to move to another OS but I just want something stable, fast, with all the latest bells and whistles and runs as both desktop and multi-user server.

Jim    

----- Original Message -----
From: "paul" <paul at wordwright.org>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, 4 November, 2013 1:53:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8.1

Yes, I follow you, Jim, thanks. Of course, there is no warning like
that. One assumes we can drop the dvd into place, and the rest happens
like magic. It didn't with the PC. I don't think it was older than two
years. I gave it away afterwards to a needy friend. I was able to
install Vista (I think) on it for the friend. Extraordinary to find
that with this OS we have to buy a new licence for each machine.
Amazing how greed has moved into this world in such a gigantic way -
and yet where is the huge cry of complaint!

On 4 November 2013 21:21, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> Hi Paul:
>
> I have had a similar situation with installing Windows 8 on a client's computer. It seems that the graphic accelerator had to be set on (or was it off?), in the BIOS, on the computer. This is just a wild suggestion.
>
> Also, depending on the motherboard, the latest hardware driver upgrades must be installed first before attempting to install Windows 8. Windows 8.x seems to have not problem installing on the latest hardware but there appears to have been little effort on supporting legacy hardware (4-5 years or older) and if that hardware does not support a UEFI upgrade, there can be more issues.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "paul" <paul at wordwright.org>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, 4 November, 2013 12:41:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
>
> Hello Jim
> I think this was the website where it began -
> http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2013/10/17/windows-8-1-now-available/?win81=
>
> It had been recommended around the middle of last month. This led to
> the 8.1 upgrade. As mentioned, the one machine it's safely installed
> on is my laptop. So I attempted several times to upgrade online, from
> the free upgrade. Each time it started well and began the process, but
> before long an error message showed to say that the upgrade had
> failed. It offered no explanation.
>
> 8 works ok on the laptop, but I can't see any improvement on Windows
> 7.  If I (crazily) hadn't followed my old habit since 3.1 of trying to
> upgrade on the very day a revised OS was offered, I don't think I
> would have been tempted by 8. I've regretted it since, I confess -
> especially as I lost my PC through it.
>
> Hope this helps, Jim.
>
> All the best
> paul
>
> On 4 November 2013 20:12, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
>> Hi Paul:
>>
>> What was the message?
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "paul" <paul at wordwright.org>
>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, 3 November, 2013 12:15:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
>>
>> Sorry, Charlotte, not to be clear. As with so many windows' changes
>> (even back with the horrendous 95), I was there on the front line,
>> hoping that this time there would be something groundbreaking.
>>
>> So, yes, I had Win 8 and within the last few weeks, a fortnight
>> perhaps. came news of the 8.1 upgrade. However, although the upgrade
>> began on the machine each time I tried, soon an error message appeared
>> to say it had failed.
>>
>> On 3 November 2013 19:43, Charlotte Foust <charlotte.foust at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I'm not sure how the upgrade from Win 7 to 8.1 works.  I thought you had to
>>> install 8.0 first, but maybe not.  I don't find Win 8 or 8.1 any less
>>> stable than Win 7, it's mostly the UI that's different and 8 loads way
>>> faster than 7.  I actually like Win 8, although I still occasionally have
>>> trouble finding ways to do things that were easy in earlier versions.
>>>
>>> Charlotte
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:41 AM, paul <paul at wordwright.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well done, Charlotte, for downloading 8.1.
>>>>
>>>> Win 8 killed my PC and I chose to stay with 7 for my replacement
>>>> desktop. It loaded onto my laptop without problems, but recently when
>>>> I've tried to upgrade to 8.1 (hopefully it is an upgrade), I keep
>>>> getting messages saying that the session failed.
>>>>
>>>> When I compare the performance of the two machines, win 7 is quite the
>>>> better system.
>>>>
>>>> All the best
>>>> paul
>>>>
>>>> On 2 November 2013 19:31, Charlotte Foust <charlotte.foust at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Anybody have good or bad experience to report on this? I put it on my
>>>> > tablet pc and don't see much difference overall.   The so-called start
>>>> > button just brings up the same screen as the windows button.  I like the
>>>> > new small button size and the fact that new apps aren't automatically
>>>> added
>>>> > to the start screen.  I haven't seen any performance differences.
>>>> >
>>>> > Charlotte
>>>> > --
>>>> > AccessD mailing list
>>>> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>>> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> You're invited to help yourself from my huge collection of ebooks. All
>>>> free, in the original spirit of the web.
>>>> http:www.eBookTrove.com
>>>> And now on Facebook. Hoping for a 'like', if you like.
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/eBookTrove
>>>> --
>>>> AccessD mailing list
>>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>>
>> --
>> AccessD mailing list
>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>> --
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>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
>
> --


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http:www.eBookTrove.com
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https://www.facebook.com/eBookTrove

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Nov  4 17:04:46 2013
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 16:04:46 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hDP-UeFeQ__ZtzwgJgAJqqZ_8AxP2oAFWdbh_EX_c3Pw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2015880762.50914370.1383606286723.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Arthur:

I think to main point is as you stated. New hardware built specifically for Window 8.x...

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, 4 November, 2013 2:15:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8.1

Boy o boy o boy. I don't know what I did right but I have none of these
issues. I bought a Dell laptop recently, a fargin' whopper, 8GB RAM and 1TB
hard disk, and Windas 8. HD Died; I phoned Dell and they couriered a
shipping box to me, pre-stamped with From and To addresses. I boxed the
laptop and phoned Purolator and they fetched it and two days later I got
the laptop back, fresh with a new copy of Windows 8. Turned out that was
the day that the free download of 8.1 became available, so I bit the bullet
and now 8.1 is installed. And everything worked perfectly and I am a happy
camper.


On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Paul:
>
> I have had a similar situation with installing Windows 8 on a client's
> computer. It seems that the graphic accelerator had to be set on (or was it
> off?), in the BIOS, on the computer. This is just a wild suggestion.
>
> Also, depending on the motherboard, the latest hardware driver upgrades
> must be installed first before attempting to install Windows 8. Windows 8.x
> seems to have not problem installing on the latest hardware but there
> appears to have been little effort on supporting legacy hardware (4-5 years
> or older) and if that hardware does not support a UEFI upgrade, there can
> be more issues.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "paul" <paul at wordwright.org>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <
> accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, 4 November, 2013 12:41:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
>
> Hello Jim
> I think this was the website where it began -
> http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2013/10/17/windows-8-1-now-available/?win81=
>
> It had been recommended around the middle of last month. This led to
> the 8.1 upgrade. As mentioned, the one machine it's safely installed
> on is my laptop. So I attempted several times to upgrade online, from
> the free upgrade. Each time it started well and began the process, but
> before long an error message showed to say that the upgrade had
> failed. It offered no explanation.
>
> 8 works ok on the laptop, but I can't see any improvement on Windows
> 7.  If I (crazily) hadn't followed my old habit since 3.1 of trying to
> upgrade on the very day a revised OS was offered, I don't think I
> would have been tempted by 8. I've regretted it since, I confess -
> especially as I lost my PC through it.
>
> Hope this helps, Jim.
>
> All the best
> paul
>
> On 4 November 2013 20:12, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> > Hi Paul:
> >
> > What was the message?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "paul" <paul at wordwright.org>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <
> accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, 3 November, 2013 12:15:26 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
> >
> > Sorry, Charlotte, not to be clear. As with so many windows' changes
> > (even back with the horrendous 95), I was there on the front line,
> > hoping that this time there would be something groundbreaking.
> >
> > So, yes, I had Win 8 and within the last few weeks, a fortnight
> > perhaps. came news of the 8.1 upgrade. However, although the upgrade
> > began on the machine each time I tried, soon an error message appeared
> > to say it had failed.
> >
> > On 3 November 2013 19:43, Charlotte Foust <charlotte.foust at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> I'm not sure how the upgrade from Win 7 to 8.1 works.  I thought you
> had to
> >> install 8.0 first, but maybe not.  I don't find Win 8 or 8.1 any less
> >> stable than Win 7, it's mostly the UI that's different and 8 loads way
> >> faster than 7.  I actually like Win 8, although I still occasionally
> have
> >> trouble finding ways to do things that were easy in earlier versions.
> >>
> >> Charlotte
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:41 AM, paul <paul at wordwright.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Well done, Charlotte, for downloading 8.1.
> >>>
> >>> Win 8 killed my PC and I chose to stay with 7 for my replacement
> >>> desktop. It loaded onto my laptop without problems, but recently when
> >>> I've tried to upgrade to 8.1 (hopefully it is an upgrade), I keep
> >>> getting messages saying that the session failed.
> >>>
> >>> When I compare the performance of the two machines, win 7 is quite the
> >>> better system.
> >>>
> >>> All the best
> >>> paul
> >>>
> >>> On 2 November 2013 19:31, Charlotte Foust <charlotte.foust at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > Anybody have good or bad experience to report on this? I put it on my
> >>> > tablet pc and don't see much difference overall.   The so-called
> start
> >>> > button just brings up the same screen as the windows button.  I like
> the
> >>> > new small button size and the fact that new apps aren't automatically
> >>> added
> >>> > to the start screen.  I haven't seen any performance differences.
> >>> >
> >>> > Charlotte
> >>> > --
> >>> > AccessD mailing list
> >>> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> >>> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> >>> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> You're invited to help yourself from my huge collection of ebooks. All
> >>> free, in the original spirit of the web.
> >>> http:www.eBookTrove.com
> >>> And now on Facebook. Hoping for a 'like', if you like.
> >>> https://www.facebook.com/eBookTrove
> >>> --
> >>> AccessD mailing list
> >>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >>>
> > --
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > --
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
>
> --
> You're invited to help yourself from my huge collection of ebooks. All
> free, in the original spirit of the web.
> http:www.eBookTrove.com
> And now on Facebook. Hoping for a 'like', if you like.
> https://www.facebook.com/eBookTrove
> --
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> --
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>



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From charlotte.foust at gmail.com  Mon Nov  4 23:32:41 2013
From: charlotte.foust at gmail.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 21:32:41 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
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Arthur,

I had no problem at all upgrading my tablet PC to 8.1 from Win 8 either.
 It took a while to download and install, but since all my drivers, etc.
were up to date (I keep them that way on my machines) and all the
requirements were met, it was easy.  Your  Dell sounds a lot like mine,
except that on the advice of a systems guy I only went for the 500Gb HD.

Charlotte


On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>wrote:

> Boy o boy o boy. I don't know what I did right but I have none of these
> issues. I bought a Dell laptop recently, a fargin' whopper, 8GB RAM and 1TB
> hard disk, and Windas 8. HD Died; I phoned Dell and they couriered a
> shipping box to me, pre-stamped with From and To addresses. I boxed the
> laptop and phoned Purolator and they fetched it and two days later I got
> the laptop back, fresh with a new copy of Windows 8. Turned out that was
> the day that the free download of 8.1 became available, so I bit the bullet
> and now 8.1 is installed. And everything worked perfectly and I am a happy
> camper.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> > Hi Paul:
> >
> > I have had a similar situation with installing Windows 8 on a client's
> > computer. It seems that the graphic accelerator had to be set on (or was
> it
> > off?), in the BIOS, on the computer. This is just a wild suggestion.
> >
> > Also, depending on the motherboard, the latest hardware driver upgrades
> > must be installed first before attempting to install Windows 8. Windows
> 8.x
> > seems to have not problem installing on the latest hardware but there
> > appears to have been little effort on supporting legacy hardware (4-5
> years
> > or older) and if that hardware does not support a UEFI upgrade, there can
> > be more issues.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "paul" <paul at wordwright.org>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <
> > accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Monday, 4 November, 2013 12:41:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
> >
> > Hello Jim
> > I think this was the website where it began -
> >
> http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2013/10/17/windows-8-1-now-available/?win81=
> >
> > It had been recommended around the middle of last month. This led to
> > the 8.1 upgrade. As mentioned, the one machine it's safely installed
> > on is my laptop. So I attempted several times to upgrade online, from
> > the free upgrade. Each time it started well and began the process, but
> > before long an error message showed to say that the upgrade had
> > failed. It offered no explanation.
> >
> > 8 works ok on the laptop, but I can't see any improvement on Windows
> > 7.  If I (crazily) hadn't followed my old habit since 3.1 of trying to
> > upgrade on the very day a revised OS was offered, I don't think I
> > would have been tempted by 8. I've regretted it since, I confess -
> > especially as I lost my PC through it.
> >
> > Hope this helps, Jim.
> >
> > All the best
> > paul
> >
> > On 4 November 2013 20:12, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> > > Hi Paul:
> > >
> > > What was the message?
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "paul" <paul at wordwright.org>
> > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <
> > accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, 3 November, 2013 12:15:26 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
> > >
> > > Sorry, Charlotte, not to be clear. As with so many windows' changes
> > > (even back with the horrendous 95), I was there on the front line,
> > > hoping that this time there would be something groundbreaking.
> > >
> > > So, yes, I had Win 8 and within the last few weeks, a fortnight
> > > perhaps. came news of the 8.1 upgrade. However, although the upgrade
> > > began on the machine each time I tried, soon an error message appeared
> > > to say it had failed.
> > >
> > > On 3 November 2013 19:43, Charlotte Foust <charlotte.foust at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> I'm not sure how the upgrade from Win 7 to 8.1 works.  I thought you
> > had to
> > >> install 8.0 first, but maybe not.  I don't find Win 8 or 8.1 any less
> > >> stable than Win 7, it's mostly the UI that's different and 8 loads way
> > >> faster than 7.  I actually like Win 8, although I still occasionally
> > have
> > >> trouble finding ways to do things that were easy in earlier versions.
> > >>
> > >> Charlotte
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:41 AM, paul <paul at wordwright.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Well done, Charlotte, for downloading 8.1.
> > >>>
> > >>> Win 8 killed my PC and I chose to stay with 7 for my replacement
> > >>> desktop. It loaded onto my laptop without problems, but recently when
> > >>> I've tried to upgrade to 8.1 (hopefully it is an upgrade), I keep
> > >>> getting messages saying that the session failed.
> > >>>
> > >>> When I compare the performance of the two machines, win 7 is quite
> the
> > >>> better system.
> > >>>
> > >>> All the best
> > >>> paul
> > >>>
> > >>> On 2 November 2013 19:31, Charlotte Foust <charlotte.foust at gmail.com
> >
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> > Anybody have good or bad experience to report on this? I put it on
> my
> > >>> > tablet pc and don't see much difference overall.   The so-called
> > start
> > >>> > button just brings up the same screen as the windows button.  I
> like
> > the
> > >>> > new small button size and the fact that new apps aren't
> automatically
> > >>> added
> > >>> > to the start screen.  I haven't seen any performance differences.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Charlotte
> > >>> > --
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> > >>> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > >>> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> You're invited to help yourself from my huge collection of ebooks.
> All
> > >>> free, in the original spirit of the web.
> > >>> http:www.eBookTrove.com
> > >>> And now on Facebook. Hoping for a 'like', if you like.
> > >>> https://www.facebook.com/eBookTrove
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> > >>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > You're invited to help yourself from my huge collection of ebooks. All
> > free, in the original spirit of the web.
> > http:www.eBookTrove.com
> > And now on Facebook. Hoping for a 'like', if you like.
> > https://www.facebook.com/eBookTrove
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>
>
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From charlotte.foust at gmail.com  Mon Nov  4 23:33:41 2013
From: charlotte.foust at gmail.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 21:33:41 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
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My tablet was built for Win 7.  Both Win 8 and 8.1 have been upgrades.

Charlotte


On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Arthur:
>
> I think to main point is as you stated. New hardware built specifically
> for Window 8.x...
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <
> accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, 4 November, 2013 2:15:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
>
> Boy o boy o boy. I don't know what I did right but I have none of these
> issues. I bought a Dell laptop recently, a fargin' whopper, 8GB RAM and 1TB
> hard disk, and Windas 8. HD Died; I phoned Dell and they couriered a
> shipping box to me, pre-stamped with From and To addresses. I boxed the
> laptop and phoned Purolator and they fetched it and two days later I got
> the laptop back, fresh with a new copy of Windows 8. Turned out that was
> the day that the free download of 8.1 became available, so I bit the bullet
> and now 8.1 is installed. And everything worked perfectly and I am a happy
> camper.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> > Hi Paul:
> >
> > I have had a similar situation with installing Windows 8 on a client's
> > computer. It seems that the graphic accelerator had to be set on (or was
> it
> > off?), in the BIOS, on the computer. This is just a wild suggestion.
> >
> > Also, depending on the motherboard, the latest hardware driver upgrades
> > must be installed first before attempting to install Windows 8. Windows
> 8.x
> > seems to have not problem installing on the latest hardware but there
> > appears to have been little effort on supporting legacy hardware (4-5
> years
> > or older) and if that hardware does not support a UEFI upgrade, there can
> > be more issues.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "paul" <paul at wordwright.org>
> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <
> > accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > Sent: Monday, 4 November, 2013 12:41:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
> >
> > Hello Jim
> > I think this was the website where it began -
> >
> http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2013/10/17/windows-8-1-now-available/?win81=
> >
> > It had been recommended around the middle of last month. This led to
> > the 8.1 upgrade. As mentioned, the one machine it's safely installed
> > on is my laptop. So I attempted several times to upgrade online, from
> > the free upgrade. Each time it started well and began the process, but
> > before long an error message showed to say that the upgrade had
> > failed. It offered no explanation.
> >
> > 8 works ok on the laptop, but I can't see any improvement on Windows
> > 7.  If I (crazily) hadn't followed my old habit since 3.1 of trying to
> > upgrade on the very day a revised OS was offered, I don't think I
> > would have been tempted by 8. I've regretted it since, I confess -
> > especially as I lost my PC through it.
> >
> > Hope this helps, Jim.
> >
> > All the best
> > paul
> >
> > On 4 November 2013 20:12, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> > > Hi Paul:
> > >
> > > What was the message?
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "paul" <paul at wordwright.org>
> > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <
> > accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, 3 November, 2013 12:15:26 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
> > >
> > > Sorry, Charlotte, not to be clear. As with so many windows' changes
> > > (even back with the horrendous 95), I was there on the front line,
> > > hoping that this time there would be something groundbreaking.
> > >
> > > So, yes, I had Win 8 and within the last few weeks, a fortnight
> > > perhaps. came news of the 8.1 upgrade. However, although the upgrade
> > > began on the machine each time I tried, soon an error message appeared
> > > to say it had failed.
> > >
> > > On 3 November 2013 19:43, Charlotte Foust <charlotte.foust at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> I'm not sure how the upgrade from Win 7 to 8.1 works.  I thought you
> > had to
> > >> install 8.0 first, but maybe not.  I don't find Win 8 or 8.1 any less
> > >> stable than Win 7, it's mostly the UI that's different and 8 loads way
> > >> faster than 7.  I actually like Win 8, although I still occasionally
> > have
> > >> trouble finding ways to do things that were easy in earlier versions.
> > >>
> > >> Charlotte
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:41 AM, paul <paul at wordwright.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Well done, Charlotte, for downloading 8.1.
> > >>>
> > >>> Win 8 killed my PC and I chose to stay with 7 for my replacement
> > >>> desktop. It loaded onto my laptop without problems, but recently when
> > >>> I've tried to upgrade to 8.1 (hopefully it is an upgrade), I keep
> > >>> getting messages saying that the session failed.
> > >>>
> > >>> When I compare the performance of the two machines, win 7 is quite
> the
> > >>> better system.
> > >>>
> > >>> All the best
> > >>> paul
> > >>>
> > >>> On 2 November 2013 19:31, Charlotte Foust <charlotte.foust at gmail.com
> >
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> > Anybody have good or bad experience to report on this? I put it on
> my
> > >>> > tablet pc and don't see much difference overall.   The so-called
> > start
> > >>> > button just brings up the same screen as the windows button.  I
> like
> > the
> > >>> > new small button size and the fact that new apps aren't
> automatically
> > >>> added
> > >>> > to the start screen.  I haven't seen any performance differences.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Charlotte
> > >>> > --
> > >>> > AccessD mailing list
> > >>> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > >>> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > >>> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> You're invited to help yourself from my huge collection of ebooks.
> All
> > >>> free, in the original spirit of the web.
> > >>> http:www.eBookTrove.com
> > >>> And now on Facebook. Hoping for a 'like', if you like.
> > >>> https://www.facebook.com/eBookTrove
> > >>> --
> > >>> AccessD mailing list
> > >>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >>>
> > > --
> > > AccessD mailing list
> > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > --
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> > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > You're invited to help yourself from my huge collection of ebooks. All
> > free, in the original spirit of the web.
> > http:www.eBookTrove.com
> > And now on Facebook. Hoping for a 'like', if you like.
> > https://www.facebook.com/eBookTrove
> > --
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> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
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> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
>
>
>
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From paulrster at gmail.com  Tue Nov  5 02:10:43 2013
From: paulrster at gmail.com (Paul)
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 08:10:43 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
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Couldn't agree more, Jim, Linux (and Ubuntu, in particular) is the way to go. Win 8 encouraged me to take up Linux sooner that I expected to. Linux is good, very good. Linux shares my machines, but before long I would expect to use it all the time. 

8, I think, will be my last 'investment' in wiindoze. 
Cheers paul
Sent from my iPad

> On 4 Nov 2013, at 23:02, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hi Paul:
> 
> Being as I am now on a limited budget, (semi) retired and Microsoft has ended the Tech Account system, of which I have depended on for years in getting up to speed, so to support clients, access to inexpensive MS software is no longer possible, all my newer systems are Linux, mostly Ubuntu. It is simple, stupid and runs on everything.
> 
> With a bit of work I have been able to run all my applications; MS SQL, Microsoft Office, Skype (and so on), and some really old legacy packages along with some fine of vintage games...even virtual Windows 8.1.
> 
> It is a big step to move to another OS but I just want something stable, fast, with all the latest bells and whistles and runs as both desktop and multi-user server.
> 
> Jim    
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "paul" <paul at wordwright.org>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Monday, 4 November, 2013 1:53:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
> 
> Yes, I follow you, Jim, thanks. Of course, there is no warning like
> that. One assumes we can drop the dvd into place, and the rest happens
> like magic. It didn't with the PC. I don't think it was older than two
> years. I gave it away afterwards to a needy friend. I was able to
> install Vista (I think) on it for the friend. Extraordinary to find
> that with this OS we have to buy a new licence for each machine.
> Amazing how greed has moved into this world in such a gigantic way -
> and yet where is the huge cry of complaint!
> 
>> On 4 November 2013 21:21, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
>> Hi Paul:
>> 
>> I have had a similar situation with installing Windows 8 on a client's computer. It seems that the graphic accelerator had to be set on (or was it off?), in the BIOS, on the computer. This is just a wild suggestion.
>> 
>> Also, depending on the motherboard, the latest hardware driver upgrades must be installed first before attempting to install Windows 8. Windows 8.x seems to have not problem installing on the latest hardware but there appears to have been little effort on supporting legacy hardware (4-5 years or older) and if that hardware does not support a UEFI upgrade, there can be more issues.
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "paul" <paul at wordwright.org>
>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Monday, 4 November, 2013 12:41:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
>> 
>> Hello Jim
>> I think this was the website where it began -
>> http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2013/10/17/windows-8-1-now-available/?win81=
>> 
>> It had been recommended around the middle of last month. This led to
>> the 8.1 upgrade. As mentioned, the one machine it's safely installed
>> on is my laptop. So I attempted several times to upgrade online, from
>> the free upgrade. Each time it started well and began the process, but
>> before long an error message showed to say that the upgrade had
>> failed. It offered no explanation.
>> 
>> 8 works ok on the laptop, but I can't see any improvement on Windows
>> 7.  If I (crazily) hadn't followed my old habit since 3.1 of trying to
>> upgrade on the very day a revised OS was offered, I don't think I
>> would have been tempted by 8. I've regretted it since, I confess -
>> especially as I lost my PC through it.
>> 
>> Hope this helps, Jim.
>> 
>> All the best
>> paul
>> 
>>> On 4 November 2013 20:12, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>> Hi Paul:
>>> 
>>> What was the message?
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "paul" <paul at wordwright.org>
>>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, 3 November, 2013 12:15:26 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
>>> 
>>> Sorry, Charlotte, not to be clear. As with so many windows' changes
>>> (even back with the horrendous 95), I was there on the front line,
>>> hoping that this time there would be something groundbreaking.
>>> 
>>> So, yes, I had Win 8 and within the last few weeks, a fortnight
>>> perhaps. came news of the 8.1 upgrade. However, although the upgrade
>>> began on the machine each time I tried, soon an error message appeared
>>> to say it had failed.
>>> 
>>>> On 3 November 2013 19:43, Charlotte Foust <charlotte.foust at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I'm not sure how the upgrade from Win 7 to 8.1 works.  I thought you had to
>>>> install 8.0 first, but maybe not.  I don't find Win 8 or 8.1 any less
>>>> stable than Win 7, it's mostly the UI that's different and 8 loads way
>>>> faster than 7.  I actually like Win 8, although I still occasionally have
>>>> trouble finding ways to do things that were easy in earlier versions.
>>>> 
>>>> Charlotte
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:41 AM, paul <paul at wordwright.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well done, Charlotte, for downloading 8.1.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Win 8 killed my PC and I chose to stay with 7 for my replacement
>>>>> desktop. It loaded onto my laptop without problems, but recently when
>>>>> I've tried to upgrade to 8.1 (hopefully it is an upgrade), I keep
>>>>> getting messages saying that the session failed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> When I compare the performance of the two machines, win 7 is quite the
>>>>> better system.
>>>>> 
>>>>> All the best
>>>>> paul
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2 November 2013 19:31, Charlotte Foust <charlotte.foust at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Anybody have good or bad experience to report on this? I put it on my
>>>>>> tablet pc and don't see much difference overall.   The so-called start
>>>>>> button just brings up the same screen as the windows button.  I like the
>>>>>> new small button size and the fact that new apps aren't automatically
>>>>> added
>>>>>> to the start screen.  I haven't seen any performance differences.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Charlotte
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> AccessD mailing list
>>>>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>>>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> You're invited to help yourself from my huge collection of ebooks. All
>>>>> free, in the original spirit of the web.
>>>>> http:www.eBookTrove.com
>>>>> And now on Facebook. Hoping for a 'like', if you like.
>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/eBookTrove
>>>>> --
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>>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
> 
> 
> -- 
> You're invited to help yourself from my huge collection of ebooks. All
> free, in the original spirit of the web.
> http:www.eBookTrove.com
> And now on Facebook. Hoping for a 'like', if you like.
> https://www.facebook.com/eBookTrove
> 
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Tue Nov  5 03:34:54 2013
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 13:34:54 +0400
Subject: [AccessD] =?utf-8?q?Windows_8=2E1?=
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Message-ID: <1383644094.233173052@f418.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Arthur --

Did you get Win 8.1 installed over Win 8? I have seen here Gustav's recommendations to setup Win8.1 on a clean PC but I'd prefer to avoid this path and to have my Win8.1 upgrade setup to run over on my Win8 system.

Thank you.

-- Shamil

Monday, November  4, 2013 5:15 PM -05:00 from Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>:
>Boy o boy o boy. I don't know what I did right but I have none of these
>issues. I bought a Dell laptop recently, a fargin' whopper, 8GB RAM and 1TB
>hard disk, and Windas 8. HD Died; I phoned Dell and they couriered a
>shipping box to me, pre-stamped with From and To addresses. I boxed the
>laptop and phoned Purolator and they fetched it and two days later I got
>the laptop back, fresh with a new copy of Windows 8. Turned out that was
>the day that the free download of 8.1 became available, so I bit the bullet
>and now 8.1 is installed. And everything worked perfectly and I am a happy
>camper.
>
>
>On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Jim Lawrence < accessd at shaw.ca > wrote:
>
>> Hi Paul:
>>
>> I have had a similar situation with installing Windows 8 on a client's
>> computer. It seems that the graphic accelerator had to be set on (or was it
>> off?), in the BIOS, on the computer. This is just a wild suggestion.
>>
>> Also, depending on the motherboard, the latest hardware driver upgrades
>> must be installed first before attempting to install Windows 8. Windows 8.x
>> seems to have not problem installing on the latest hardware but there
>> appears to have been little effort on supporting legacy hardware (4-5 years
>> or older) and if that hardware does not support a UEFI upgrade, there can
>> be more issues.
>>
>> Jim
<<< skipped >>

From darren at activebilling.com.au  Tue Nov  5 09:31:53 2013
From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren)
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 02:31:53 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:BAT/CMD file not outputting to log file if run from
	VBA
Message-ID: <012f01ceda3c$291e2f20$7b5a8d60$@activebilling.com.au>

Hi guys

 

I have a CMD file that is run from VBA.

Inside this CMD file are lines like: 

 

     Echo blah blah blah >> LogFile.txt

 

All good and pretty basic - If I double click the CMD or BAT file the
outputting to the log file via the '>>' works a treat.

If I 'run' the CMD/BAT file from VBA then the file runs but the >> bits seem
to be ignored.

As a result the log file isn't created and (of course) there are no log
entries.

I have tried with CMD and with BAT files

I have tried calling the BAT/CMD file a few ways from within VBA too. All no
joy.

 

Dim strFileToRun As String

strFileToRun = Me.txtDeployFileToBuildPath

''strFileToRun = "C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL
Server\90\Tools\Binn\Run.bat"

 

Dim retval

'retval = Shell(strFileToRun, vbNormal)

 

Call fHandleFile(strFileToRun, -1)

'Call Shell(strFileToRun, 0)

 

And so on

 

Anyone come across this before?

 

Many thanks in advance

D


From paul.hartland at googlemail.com  Tue Nov  5 09:47:34 2013
From: paul.hartland at googlemail.com (Paul Hartland)
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 15:47:34 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:BAT/CMD file not outputting to log file if run
 from VBA
In-Reply-To: <012f01ceda3c$291e2f20$7b5a8d60$@activebilling.com.au>
References: <012f01ceda3c$291e2f20$7b5a8d60$@activebilling.com.au>
Message-ID: <CALGJE97qgnyA4+D8OCBhuquRHODd=Auy4Wymdb5CfDHF6etnyg@mail.gmail.com>

Darren,

Seems to ring a bell from somewhere in my past experience, try searching on
google for a function called ShellWait, I am sre this cured a similar
problem for me a couple of years back.

Paul


On 5 November 2013 15:31, Darren <darren at activebilling.com.au> wrote:

> Hi guys
>
>
>
> I have a CMD file that is run from VBA.
>
> Inside this CMD file are lines like:
>
>
>
>      Echo blah blah blah >> LogFile.txt
>
>
>
> All good and pretty basic - If I double click the CMD or BAT file the
> outputting to the log file via the '>>' works a treat.
>
> If I 'run' the CMD/BAT file from VBA then the file runs but the >> bits
> seem
> to be ignored.
>
> As a result the log file isn't created and (of course) there are no log
> entries.
>
> I have tried with CMD and with BAT files
>
> I have tried calling the BAT/CMD file a few ways from within VBA too. All
> no
> joy.
>
>
>
> Dim strFileToRun As String
>
> strFileToRun = Me.txtDeployFileToBuildPath
>
> ''strFileToRun = "C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL
> Server\90\Tools\Binn\Run.bat"
>
>
>
> Dim retval
>
> 'retval = Shell(strFileToRun, vbNormal)
>
>
>
> Call fHandleFile(strFileToRun, -1)
>
> 'Call Shell(strFileToRun, 0)
>
>
>
> And so on
>
>
>
> Anyone come across this before?
>
>
>
> Many thanks in advance
>
> D
>
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From darren at activebilling.com.au  Tue Nov  5 10:07:54 2013
From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren)
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 03:07:54 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:BAT/CMD file not outputting to log file if run
	from VBA
Message-ID: <013401ceda41$30c9bd20$925d3760$@activebilling.com.au>

Hi Paul,
Thanks for the prompt response.
I'm having no issues with timing. I create the batch file then run it all
via code.
The issue is: Running it via code (VBA) the bits in the batch file that
should output stuff to a log file via ">>" just don't work.
Yet if I double click that 'very same batch' file from its folder, it runs
and outputs to the log file.
Same batch or CMD file. Double clicking works - file runs does what it's
supposed to and outputs some stuff as required to a txt file..
Yet Calling it via code, allows the batch to run and do what it's supposed
to do, but no outputs to the log file.
Weird!
Darren

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hartland
Sent: Wednesday, 6 November 2013 2:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003:BAT/CMD file not outputting to log file if run
from VBA

Darren,

Seems to ring a bell from somewhere in my past experience, try searching on
google for a function called ShellWait, I am sre this cured a similar
problem for me a couple of years back.

Paul


On 5 November 2013 15:31, Darren <darren at activebilling.com.au> wrote:

> Hi guys
>
>
>
> I have a CMD file that is run from VBA.
>
> Inside this CMD file are lines like:
>
>
>
>      Echo blah blah blah >> LogFile.txt
>
>
>
> All good and pretty basic - If I double click the CMD or BAT file the 
> outputting to the log file via the '>>' works a treat.
>
> If I 'run' the CMD/BAT file from VBA then the file runs but the >> 
> bits seem to be ignored.
>
> As a result the log file isn't created and (of course) there are no 
> log entries.
>
> I have tried with CMD and with BAT files
>
> I have tried calling the BAT/CMD file a few ways from within VBA too. 
> All no joy.
>
>
>
> Dim strFileToRun As String
>
> strFileToRun = Me.txtDeployFileToBuildPath
>
> ''strFileToRun = "C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL 
> Server\90\Tools\Binn\Run.bat"
>
>
>
> Dim retval
>
> 'retval = Shell(strFileToRun, vbNormal)
>
>
>
> Call fHandleFile(strFileToRun, -1)
>
> 'Call Shell(strFileToRun, 0)
>
>
>
> And so on
>
>
>
> Anyone come across this before?
>
>
>
> Many thanks in advance
>
> D
>
> --
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>



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From garykjos at gmail.com  Tue Nov  5 10:16:16 2013
From: garykjos at gmail.com (Gary Kjos)
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 10:16:16 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Fw: Web Page Error
In-Reply-To: <1383530034.47963.YahooMailNeo@web125605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1383335465.90789.YahooMailNeo@web125604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<1383530034.47963.YahooMailNeo@web125605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2R_p+poh6dcm-zT6e5oTn-Qf53VN4wJDvsFbPhVscx1rtZsQ@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry but you are way beyond my level of expertise Dale.

Good luck figuring it out.

GK


On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Dale Kalsow <dkalsow at yahoo.com> wrote:

>  I anyone able to answer my question?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Dale
>
> On Friday, November 1, 2013 2:54 PM, Dale Kalsow <dkalsow at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> I have written some code in vba in excel.  The code opens a web site and
> from data in the spreadsheet fills in the same web form from each row of
> data.  If the web form does not come back with any data, the vba code
> closes it.  However, if it does find some data, it is supposed to leave the
> web form open.  The leaving it open part is not working.  Instead it throws
> an error.  Can anyone help me fix the error?  The error is:  Run-time error
> '91':  Object variable or With block variable not set.  I am getting this
> error in the following block of code
>
>  i = 0: blnLoop = True: intI = objCollection.Length
>            While blnLoop
>
>                 MsgBox (objCollection(i).classname)
>                     If objCollection(i).classname = "NoResultsSummaryText"
> Then
>                     IE.Quit
>
>                     blnLoop = False
>                End If
>                i = i + 1
>                If i >= intI Then blnLoop = False
>            Wend
>
> specifically on the:  If objCollection(i).classname =
> "NoResultsSummaryText" Then
>
> line of code.
>
> Does anyone see how I can fix this?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dale
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From dkalsow at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  5 10:23:59 2013
From: dkalsow at yahoo.com (Dale Kalsow)
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 08:23:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [AccessD] Fw: Web Page Error
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2R_p+poh6dcm-zT6e5oTn-Qf53VN4wJDvsFbPhVscx1rtZsQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1383335465.90789.YahooMailNeo@web125604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>	<1383530034.47963.YahooMailNeo@web125605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<CAJ2R_p+poh6dcm-zT6e5oTn-Qf53VN4wJDvsFbPhVscx1rtZsQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1383668639.73758.YahooMailNeo@web125604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

thanks anyway



On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 10:18 AM, Gary Kjos <garykjos at gmail.com> wrote:
  
Sorry but you are way beyond my level of expertise Dale.

Good luck figuring it out.

GK


On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Dale Kalsow <dkalsow at yahoo.com> wrote:

>? I anyone able to answer my question?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Dale
>
> On Friday, November 1, 2013 2:54 PM, Dale Kalsow <dkalsow at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> I have written some code in vba in excel.? The code opens a web site and
> from data in the spreadsheet fills in the same web form from each row of
> data.? If the web form does not come back with any data, the vba code
> closes it.? However, if it does find some data, it is supposed to leave the
> web form open.? The leaving it open part is not working.? Instead it throws
> an error.? Can anyone help me fix the error?? The error is:? Run-time error
> '91':? Object variable or With block variable not set.? I am getting this
> error in the following block of code
>
>? i = 0: blnLoop = True: intI = objCollection.Length
>? ? ? ? ? ? While blnLoop
>
>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?  MsgBox (objCollection(i).classname)
>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?  If objCollection(i).classname = "NoResultsSummaryText"
> Then
>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?  IE.Quit
>
>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?  blnLoop = False
>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? End If
>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? i = i + 1
>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? If i >= intI Then blnLoop = False
>? ? ? ? ? ? Wend
>
> specifically on the:? If objCollection(i).classname =
> "NoResultsSummaryText" Then
>
> line of code.
>
> Does anyone see how I can fix this?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dale
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From Lambert.Heenan at aig.com  Tue Nov  5 11:39:48 2013
From: Lambert.Heenan at aig.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 12:39:48 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:BAT/CMD file not outputting to log file if
	run	from VBA
In-Reply-To: <013401ceda41$30c9bd20$925d3760$@activebilling.com.au>
References: <013401ceda41$30c9bd20$925d3760$@activebilling.com.au>
Message-ID: <F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F980218728699@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>

Hi Darren,

There are a couple of problems with your code.

First thing is you should always run batch (or CMD) files via the command line processor (CLP). So you should retrieve that with Environ("Comspec") and the command you pass to SHELL() would then be

retval = Shell(Environ("Comspec") & " /C " & strFileToRun, vbNormal)

The /C make the CLP run the command and then terminate.

Second, I have found that when you call a batch file that redirects output, it the batch file does not specify the path to the log file then the batch file behaves differently if you run it directly from Explorer, or via code.  Via code it winds up redirecting the output to the named file, but that file will be created in whatever is defined as your HOMESHARE - see the output from SET in a DOS window. So the solution to that problem is to change the batch file so that it explicitly specifies the path to the log file.

Lambert


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 11:08 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003:BAT/CMD file not outputting to log file if run from VBA

Hi Paul,
Thanks for the prompt response.
I'm having no issues with timing. I create the batch file then run it all via code.
The issue is: Running it via code (VBA) the bits in the batch file that should output stuff to a log file via ">>" just don't work.
Yet if I double click that 'very same batch' file from its folder, it runs and outputs to the log file.
Same batch or CMD file. Double clicking works - file runs does what it's supposed to and outputs some stuff as required to a txt file..
Yet Calling it via code, allows the batch to run and do what it's supposed to do, but no outputs to the log file.
Weird!
Darren

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hartland
Sent: Wednesday, 6 November 2013 2:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003:BAT/CMD file not outputting to log file if run from VBA

Darren,

Seems to ring a bell from somewhere in my past experience, try searching on google for a function called ShellWait, I am sre this cured a similar problem for me a couple of years back.

Paul


On 5 November 2013 15:31, Darren <darren at activebilling.com.au> wrote:

> Hi guys
>
>
>
> I have a CMD file that is run from VBA.
>
> Inside this CMD file are lines like:
>
>
>
>      Echo blah blah blah >> LogFile.txt
>
>
>
> All good and pretty basic - If I double click the CMD or BAT file the 
> outputting to the log file via the '>>' works a treat.
>
> If I 'run' the CMD/BAT file from VBA then the file runs but the >> 
> bits seem to be ignored.
>
> As a result the log file isn't created and (of course) there are no 
> log entries.
>
> I have tried with CMD and with BAT files
>
> I have tried calling the BAT/CMD file a few ways from within VBA too. 
> All no joy.
>
>
>
> Dim strFileToRun As String
>
> strFileToRun = Me.txtDeployFileToBuildPath
>
> ''strFileToRun = "C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL 
> Server\90\Tools\Binn\Run.bat"
>
>
>
> Dim retval
>
> 'retval = Shell(strFileToRun, vbNormal)
>
>
>
> Call fHandleFile(strFileToRun, -1)
>
> 'Call Shell(strFileToRun, 0)
>
>
>
> And so on
>
>
>
> Anyone come across this before?
>
>
>
> Many thanks in advance
>
> D
>
> --
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>



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From RRANTHON at sentara.com  Tue Nov  5 10:27:42 2013
From: RRANTHON at sentara.com (RANDALL R ANTHONY)
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 16:27:42 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Fw: Web Page Error
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2R_p+poh6dcm-zT6e5oTn-Qf53VN4wJDvsFbPhVscx1rtZsQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1383335465.90789.YahooMailNeo@web125604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<1383530034.47963.YahooMailNeo@web125605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<CAJ2R_p+poh6dcm-zT6e5oTn-Qf53VN4wJDvsFbPhVscx1rtZsQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201311051801.rA5I1ldr023842@databaseadvisors.com>

Dale,
I don't see where you're setting objCollection(i).classname to anything until you do your comparison?
:  Object variable or With block variable not set  ---  Indicates there's nothing in the object.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gary Kjos
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 11:16 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Fw: Web Page Error

Sorry but you are way beyond my level of expertise Dale.

Good luck figuring it out.

GK


On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Dale Kalsow <dkalsow at yahoo.com> wrote:

>  I anyone able to answer my question?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Dale
>
> On Friday, November 1, 2013 2:54 PM, Dale Kalsow <dkalsow at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> I have written some code in vba in excel.  The code opens a web site 
> and from data in the spreadsheet fills in the same web form from each 
> row of data.  If the web form does not come back with any data, the 
> vba code closes it.  However, if it does find some data, it is 
> supposed to leave the web form open.  The leaving it open part is not 
> working.  Instead it throws an error.  Can anyone help me fix the 
> error?  The error is:  Run-time error
> '91':  Object variable or With block variable not set.  I am getting 
> this error in the following block of code
>
>  i = 0: blnLoop = True: intI = objCollection.Length
>            While blnLoop
>
>                 MsgBox (objCollection(i).classname)
>                     If objCollection(i).classname = "NoResultsSummaryText"
> Then
>                     IE.Quit
>
>                     blnLoop = False
>                End If
>                i = i + 1
>                If i >= intI Then blnLoop = False
>            Wend
>
> specifically on the:  If objCollection(i).classname = 
> "NoResultsSummaryText" Then
>
> line of code.
>
> Does anyone see how I can fix this?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dale
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From paul at wordwright.org  Tue Nov  5 12:11:47 2013
From: paul at wordwright.org (paul)
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 18:11:47 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hDP-UeFeQ__ZtzwgJgAJqqZ_8AxP2oAFWdbh_EX_c3Pw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKoNfVuR9qa5y077wQhHMnOHmkRkiSPgMAi5g72S4fzW_RwdTQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1424616060.50808803.1383600113243.JavaMail.root@cds002>
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Message-ID: <CAKoNfVvo4pHw5wA4+PfZVa+OP+WS1XP+aV4sc+0fuLmHYD79Zw@mail.gmail.com>

Well done, Arthur. Very pleased to hear it, and glad that an expert of
your status gets better treatment. And of course, zillions of people
must have had a satisfactory experience. However, when I looked at the
web, thanks to Uncle Google, I found that I was certainly not alone.

When 8 killed my PC, once again the web showed that a lot of
experienced coders as well as those with less knowledge also suffered
from the 'upgrades' they had bought.

Windoze had websites set up to answer the problems. But you couldn't
email for help, you had to phone certain helpers depending on where
you were based. I tried many times over several days to get through
but without any success.

Very good to hear from you, by the by, Arthur. Over the years, I have
followed many of your threads, and those you have helped. I seem to
recall that many years ago you were seriously unwell. A friend of mine
was suffering from an almost identical problem. He was also a very
knowledgeable and helpful fellow. It was a great relief when I read
that you were out of the serious zone and were recovering.

On 4 November 2013 22:15, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:
> Boy o boy o boy. I don't know what I did right but I have none of these
> issues. I bought a Dell laptop recently, a fargin' whopper, 8GB RAM and 1TB
> hard disk, and Windas 8. HD Died; I phoned Dell and they couriered a
> shipping box to me, pre-stamped with From and To addresses. I boxed the
> laptop and phoned Purolator and they fetched it and two days later I got
> the laptop back, fresh with a new copy of Windows 8. Turned out that was
> the day that the free download of 8.1 became available, so I bit the bullet
> and now 8.1 is installed. And everything worked perfectly and I am a happy
> camper.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> Hi Paul:
>>
>> I have had a similar situation with installing Windows 8 on a client's
>> computer. It seems that the graphic accelerator had to be set on (or was it
>> off?), in the BIOS, on the computer. This is just a wild suggestion.
>>
>> Also, depending on the motherboard, the latest hardware driver upgrades
>> must be installed first before attempting to install Windows 8. Windows 8.x
>> seems to have not problem installing on the latest hardware but there
>> appears to have been little effort on supporting legacy hardware (4-5 years
>> or older) and if that hardware does not support a UEFI upgrade, there can
>> be more issues.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "paul" <paul at wordwright.org>
>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <
>> accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Sent: Monday, 4 November, 2013 12:41:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
>>
>> Hello Jim
>> I think this was the website where it began -
>> http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2013/10/17/windows-8-1-now-available/?win81=
>>
>> It had been recommended around the middle of last month. This led to
>> the 8.1 upgrade. As mentioned, the one machine it's safely installed
>> on is my laptop. So I attempted several times to upgrade online, from
>> the free upgrade. Each time it started well and began the process, but
>> before long an error message showed to say that the upgrade had
>> failed. It offered no explanation.
>>
>> 8 works ok on the laptop, but I can't see any improvement on Windows
>> 7.  If I (crazily) hadn't followed my old habit since 3.1 of trying to
>> upgrade on the very day a revised OS was offered, I don't think I
>> would have been tempted by 8. I've regretted it since, I confess -
>> especially as I lost my PC through it.
>>
>> Hope this helps, Jim.
>>
>> All the best
>> paul
>>
>> On 4 November 2013 20:12, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:
>> > Hi Paul:
>> >
>> > What was the message?
>> >
>> > Jim
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "paul" <paul at wordwright.org>
>> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <
>> accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> > Sent: Sunday, 3 November, 2013 12:15:26 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Windows 8.1
>> >
>> > Sorry, Charlotte, not to be clear. As with so many windows' changes
>> > (even back with the horrendous 95), I was there on the front line,
>> > hoping that this time there would be something groundbreaking.
>> >
>> > So, yes, I had Win 8 and within the last few weeks, a fortnight
>> > perhaps. came news of the 8.1 upgrade. However, although the upgrade
>> > began on the machine each time I tried, soon an error message appeared
>> > to say it had failed.
>> >
>> > On 3 November 2013 19:43, Charlotte Foust <charlotte.foust at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> I'm not sure how the upgrade from Win 7 to 8.1 works.  I thought you
>> had to
>> >> install 8.0 first, but maybe not.  I don't find Win 8 or 8.1 any less
>> >> stable than Win 7, it's mostly the UI that's different and 8 loads way
>> >> faster than 7.  I actually like Win 8, although I still occasionally
>> have
>> >> trouble finding ways to do things that were easy in earlier versions.
>> >>
>> >> Charlotte
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:41 AM, paul <paul at wordwright.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Well done, Charlotte, for downloading 8.1.
>> >>>
>> >>> Win 8 killed my PC and I chose to stay with 7 for my replacement
>> >>> desktop. It loaded onto my laptop without problems, but recently when
>> >>> I've tried to upgrade to 8.1 (hopefully it is an upgrade), I keep
>> >>> getting messages saying that the session failed.
>> >>>
>> >>> When I compare the performance of the two machines, win 7 is quite the
>> >>> better system.
>> >>>
>> >>> All the best
>> >>> paul
>> >>>
>> >>> On 2 November 2013 19:31, Charlotte Foust <charlotte.foust at gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > Anybody have good or bad experience to report on this? I put it on my
>> >>> > tablet pc and don't see much difference overall.   The so-called
>> start
>> >>> > button just brings up the same screen as the windows button.  I like
>> the
>> >>> > new small button size and the fact that new apps aren't automatically
>> >>> added
>> >>> > to the start screen.  I haven't seen any performance differences.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Charlotte
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov  5 13:19:38 2013
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 12:19:38 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:BAT/CMD file not outputting to log file if run
 from	VBA
In-Reply-To: <012f01ceda3c$291e2f20$7b5a8d60$@activebilling.com.au>
Message-ID: <1971518802.51773198.1383679178722.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Darren:

A number of years ago I had a similar issue so I called the a virtual command environment directly:

cmd /k blah blah blah >> LogFile.txt

Question; what is the "Echo" part of the command line being used for? Shouldn't it just read "blah blah blah >> LogFile.txt" ?

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Darren" <darren at activebilling.com.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 5 November, 2013 7:31:53 AM
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:BAT/CMD file not outputting to log file if run from	VBA

Hi guys

 

I have a CMD file that is run from VBA.

Inside this CMD file are lines like: 

 

     Echo blah blah blah >> LogFile.txt

 

All good and pretty basic - If I double click the CMD or BAT file the
outputting to the log file via the '>>' works a treat.

If I 'run' the CMD/BAT file from VBA then the file runs but the >> bits seem
to be ignored.

As a result the log file isn't created and (of course) there are no log
entries.

I have tried with CMD and with BAT files

I have tried calling the BAT/CMD file a few ways from within VBA too. All no
joy.

 

Dim strFileToRun As String

strFileToRun = Me.txtDeployFileToBuildPath

''strFileToRun = "C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL
Server\90\Tools\Binn\Run.bat"

 

Dim retval

'retval = Shell(strFileToRun, vbNormal)

 

Call fHandleFile(strFileToRun, -1)

'Call Shell(strFileToRun, 0)

 

And so on

 

Anyone come across this before?

 

Many thanks in advance

D

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From Lambert.Heenan at aig.com  Tue Nov  5 15:13:33 2013
From: Lambert.Heenan at aig.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 16:13:33 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Getting the Primary Key of a New records in Oracle
Message-ID: <F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F9802187286D5@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>

Does anyone know how I can retrieve the primary key value from a new record just added to a linked Oracle table using VBA?

I.e. I create a records using VBA, populate the fields with VBA and update the record. How do I then find out what the primary key value allocated by Oracle is? The key field is of type NUMBER(10) and it is populated by a trigger (which I have no control over).

Lambert

From jackandpat.d at gmail.com  Tue Nov  5 15:30:27 2013
From: jackandpat.d at gmail.com (jack drawbridge)
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 16:30:27 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Getting the Primary Key of a New records in Oracle
In-Reply-To: <F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F9802187286D5@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>
References: <F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F9802187286D5@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>
Message-ID: <CAKvidAsfv=b1hXQC9wG-BWdR7L5N7q1-tznvW6ypBnT23USFuA@mail.gmail.com>

Just a guess since it's been a long time since I did any Oracle work
--
can you use a pass through query to Oracle looking for your PK field where
rownumber = (select max(rownumber) from yourtableName) ??


On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Heenan, Lambert <Lambert.Heenan at aig.com>wrote:

> Does anyone know how I can retrieve the primary key value from a new
> record just added to a linked Oracle table using VBA?
>
> I.e. I create a records using VBA, populate the fields with VBA and update
> the record. How do I then find out what the primary key value allocated by
> Oracle is? The key field is of type NUMBER(10) and it is populated by a
> trigger (which I have no control over).
>
> Lambert
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Nov  5 15:41:09 2013
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 07:41:09 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:BAT/CMD file not outputting to log file if run
	from VBA
In-Reply-To: <012f01ceda3c$291e2f20$7b5a8d60$@activebilling.com.au>
References: <012f01ceda3c$291e2f20$7b5a8d60$@activebilling.com.au>
Message-ID: <527965F5.811.16CB9C55@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Bet you a beer that it's a "current directory" problem. :)

Either, your batch file is running in a directory that won't let you append to a file or your 
Logfile.txt is being written to but it is not where you think it is.



-- 
Stuart

On 6 Nov 2013 at 2:31, Darren wrote:

> Hi guys
> 
> 
> 
> I have a CMD file that is run from VBA.
> 
> Inside this CMD file are lines like: 
> 
> 
> 
>      Echo blah blah blah >> LogFile.txt
> 
> 
> 
> All good and pretty basic - If I double click the CMD or BAT file the
> outputting to the log file via the '>>' works a treat.
> 
> If I 'run' the CMD/BAT file from VBA then the file runs but the >>
> bits seem to be ignored.
> 
> As a result the log file isn't created and (of course) there are no
> log entries.
> 
> I have tried with CMD and with BAT files
> 
> I have tried calling the BAT/CMD file a few ways from within VBA too.
> All no joy.
> 
> 
> 
> Dim strFileToRun As String
> 
> strFileToRun = Me.txtDeployFileToBuildPath
> 
> ''strFileToRun = "C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL
> Server\90\Tools\Binn\Run.bat"
> 
> 
> 
> Dim retval
> 
> 'retval = Shell(strFileToRun, vbNormal)
> 
> 
> 
> Call fHandleFile(strFileToRun, -1)
> 
> 'Call Shell(strFileToRun, 0)
> 
> 
> 
> And so on
> 
> 
> 
> Anyone come across this before?
> 
> 
> 
> Many thanks in advance
> 
> D
> 
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From Rusty.Hammond at cpiqpc.com  Tue Nov  5 15:48:45 2013
From: Rusty.Hammond at cpiqpc.com (Rusty Hammond)
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 15:48:45 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Getting the Primary Key of a New records in Oracle
In-Reply-To: <F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F9802187286D5@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>
References: <F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F9802187286D5@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>
Message-ID: <49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB721701F39052F@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET>

Lambert, use the LastModified property:

     With rst
	  .AddNew
             ![SomeField1] = "SomeValue"
             ![SomeField2] = "SomeValue2"
        .Update
        .BookMark = .LastModified
        intPriKey = ![PrimKeyID]
    End With

HTH,

Rusty

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
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Lambert
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 3:14 PM
To: 'Access-D Email (accessd at databaseadvisors.com)'; 'ACCESS-L
Email(ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM)'
Subject: [AccessD] Getting the Primary Key of a New records in Oracle

Does anyone know how I can retrieve the primary key value from a new
record just added to a linked Oracle table using VBA?

I.e. I create a records using VBA, populate the fields with VBA and
update the record. How do I then find out what the primary key value
allocated by Oracle is? The key field is of type NUMBER(10) and it is
populated by a trigger (which I have no control over).

Lambert
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Nov  5 15:49:25 2013
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 07:49:25 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Getting the Primary Key of a New records in Oracle
In-Reply-To: <F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F9802187286D5@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>
References: <F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F9802187286D5@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>
Message-ID: <527967E5.2651.16D32E67@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

Don't do Oracle much, but in other RDBMSs the usual solution is to create the record through 
a stored procedure that returns something like @IDENTITY


On 5 Nov 2013 at 16:13, Heenan, Lambert wrote:

> Does anyone know how I can retrieve the primary key value from a new
> record just added to a linked Oracle table using VBA?
> 
> I.e. I create a records using VBA, populate the fields with VBA and
> update the record. How do I then find out what the primary key value
> allocated by Oracle is? The key field is of type NUMBER(10) and it is
> populated by a trigger (which I have no control over).
> 
> Lambert
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Nov  5 15:50:34 2013
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 07:50:34 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Getting the Primary Key of a New records in Oracle
In-Reply-To: <F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F9802187286D5@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>
References: <F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F9802187286D5@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>
Message-ID: <5279682A.1393.16D43E7D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

A quick google found:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1145294/oracle-return-newly-inserted-key-value

INSERT INTO my_table (col_1, col_2)
  VALUES ('foo', 'bar')
  RETURNING pk_id INTO my_variable;

On 5 Nov 2013 at 16:13, Heenan, Lambert wrote:

> Does anyone know how I can retrieve the primary key value from a new
> record just added to a linked Oracle table using VBA?
> 
> I.e. I create a records using VBA, populate the fields with VBA and
> update the record. How do I then find out what the primary key value
> allocated by Oracle is? The key field is of type NUMBER(10) and it is
> populated by a trigger (which I have no control over).
> 
> Lambert
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From darren at activebilling.com.au  Tue Nov  5 16:33:10 2013
From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren)
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 09:33:10 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:BAT/CMD file not outputting to log file if
	run	from VBA
In-Reply-To: <527965F5.811.16CB9C55@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
References: <012f01ceda3c$291e2f20$7b5a8d60$@activebilling.com.au>
	<527965F5.811.16CB9C55@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <013c01ceda77$041c73e0$0c555ba0$@activebilling.com.au>

Thank you Heenan, Jim and Stuart.

Stuart gets a beer. Sheesh what a PITA.
It was writing the text file to the 'MyDocs' folder.
How frustrating.
All good and all resolved now.
Many thanks to you all. I had wasted too many hours on this.

Stuart, thanks...again - When you're in  Sydney, gimme a yell, it's my
shout.

D


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Wednesday, 6 November 2013 8:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003:BAT/CMD file not outputting to log file if run
from VBA

Bet you a beer that it's a "current directory" problem. :)

Either, your batch file is running in a directory that won't let you append
to a file or your Logfile.txt is being written to but it is not where you
think it is.



-- 
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On 6 Nov 2013 at 2:31, Darren wrote:

> Hi guys
> 
> 
> 
> I have a CMD file that is run from VBA.
> 
> Inside this CMD file are lines like: 
> 
> 
> 
>      Echo blah blah blah >> LogFile.txt
> 
> 
> 
> All good and pretty basic - If I double click the CMD or BAT file the
> outputting to the log file via the '>>' works a treat.
> 
> If I 'run' the CMD/BAT file from VBA then the file runs but the >>
> bits seem to be ignored.
> 
> As a result the log file isn't created and (of course) there are no
> log entries.
> 
> I have tried with CMD and with BAT files
> 
> I have tried calling the BAT/CMD file a few ways from within VBA too.
> All no joy.
> 
> 
> 
> Dim strFileToRun As String
> 
> strFileToRun = Me.txtDeployFileToBuildPath
> 
> ''strFileToRun = "C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL
> Server\90\Tools\Binn\Run.bat"
> 
> 
> 
> Dim retval
> 
> 'retval = Shell(strFileToRun, vbNormal)
> 
> 
> 
> Call fHandleFile(strFileToRun, -1)
> 
> 'Call Shell(strFileToRun, 0)
> 
> 
> 
> And so on
> 
> 
> 
> Anyone come across this before?
> 
> 
> 
> Many thanks in advance
> 
> D
> 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov  5 18:26:49 2013
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 17:26:49 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:BAT/CMD file not outputting to log file if
	run	from VBA
In-Reply-To: <527965F5.811.16CB9C55@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <509876075.52120599.1383697609482.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Would that suggest that a line like:

blah blah blah >> <absolute pathname>\LogFile.txt

Jim

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From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2013 1:41:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003:BAT/CMD file not outputting to log file if run	from VBA

Bet you a beer that it's a "current directory" problem. :)

Either, your batch file is running in a directory that won't let you append to a file or your 
Logfile.txt is being written to but it is not where you think it is.



-- 
Stuart

On 6 Nov 2013 at 2:31, Darren wrote:

> Hi guys
> 
> 
> 
> I have a CMD file that is run from VBA.
> 
> Inside this CMD file are lines like: 
> 
> 
> 
>      Echo blah blah blah >> LogFile.txt
> 
> 
> 
> All good and pretty basic - If I double click the CMD or BAT file the
> outputting to the log file via the '>>' works a treat.
> 
> If I 'run' the CMD/BAT file from VBA then the file runs but the >>
> bits seem to be ignored.
> 
> As a result the log file isn't created and (of course) there are no
> log entries.
> 
> I have tried with CMD and with BAT files
> 
> I have tried calling the BAT/CMD file a few ways from within VBA too.
> All no joy.
> 
> 
> 
> Dim strFileToRun As String
> 
> strFileToRun = Me.txtDeployFileToBuildPath
> 
> ''strFileToRun = "C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL
> Server\90\Tools\Binn\Run.bat"
> 
> 
> 
> Dim retval
> 
> 'retval = Shell(strFileToRun, vbNormal)
> 
> 
> 
> Call fHandleFile(strFileToRun, -1)
> 
> 'Call Shell(strFileToRun, 0)
> 
> 
> 
> And so on
> 
> 
> 
> Anyone come across this before?
> 
> 
> 
> Many thanks in advance
> 
> D
> 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov  5 18:28:01 2013
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 17:28:01 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:BAT/CMD file not outputting to log file
	if	run	from VBA
In-Reply-To: <013c01ceda77$041c73e0$0c555ba0$@activebilling.com.au>
Message-ID: <1291362374.52121798.1383697681418.JavaMail.root@cds002>

:-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Darren" <darren at activebilling.com.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2013 2:33:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003:BAT/CMD file not outputting to log file if	run	from VBA

Thank you Heenan, Jim and Stuart.

Stuart gets a beer. Sheesh what a PITA.
It was writing the text file to the 'MyDocs' folder.
How frustrating.
All good and all resolved now.
Many thanks to you all. I had wasted too many hours on this.

Stuart, thanks...again - When you're in  Sydney, gimme a yell, it's my
shout.

D


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Wednesday, 6 November 2013 8:41 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003:BAT/CMD file not outputting to log file if run
from VBA

Bet you a beer that it's a "current directory" problem. :)

Either, your batch file is running in a directory that won't let you append
to a file or your Logfile.txt is being written to but it is not where you
think it is.



-- 
Stuart

On 6 Nov 2013 at 2:31, Darren wrote:

> Hi guys
> 
> 
> 
> I have a CMD file that is run from VBA.
> 
> Inside this CMD file are lines like: 
> 
> 
> 
>      Echo blah blah blah >> LogFile.txt
> 
> 
> 
> All good and pretty basic - If I double click the CMD or BAT file the
> outputting to the log file via the '>>' works a treat.
> 
> If I 'run' the CMD/BAT file from VBA then the file runs but the >>
> bits seem to be ignored.
> 
> As a result the log file isn't created and (of course) there are no
> log entries.
> 
> I have tried with CMD and with BAT files
> 
> I have tried calling the BAT/CMD file a few ways from within VBA too.
> All no joy.
> 
> 
> 
> Dim strFileToRun As String
> 
> strFileToRun = Me.txtDeployFileToBuildPath
> 
> ''strFileToRun = "C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL
> Server\90\Tools\Binn\Run.bat"
> 
> 
> 
> Dim retval
> 
> 'retval = Shell(strFileToRun, vbNormal)
> 
> 
> 
> Call fHandleFile(strFileToRun, -1)
> 
> 'Call Shell(strFileToRun, 0)
> 
> 
> 
> And so on
> 
> 
> 
> Anyone come across this before?
> 
> 
> 
> Many thanks in advance
> 
> D
> 
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From delam at zyterra.com  Tue Nov  5 20:32:30 2013
From: delam at zyterra.com (Debbie)
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 20:32:30 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT : Computer trouble Help!
In-Reply-To: <F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F980210606898@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>
References: <F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F980210606895@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>
	<52713BB7.90405@gmail.com>
	<F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F980210606898@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>
Message-ID: <9EDE5C77-4BC1-4590-A067-75FAC66C0566@zyterra.com>

Hi all. I have come home to a laptop that has suddenly become a brick. 

My roommate says it asked about some update and restart, now nothing works. I get a flicker from the wireless light, but no others. I cannot turn it on to even get a blue screen. 

It has been running NT and is a bit low on hard drive space. Other than that everything has been doing well. 

Is this anything anyone has encountered before and knows a solution to?

Debbie

From darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au  Tue Nov  5 21:40:30 2013
From: darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au (Darryl Collins)
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 03:40:30 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] OT : Computer trouble Help!
In-Reply-To: <9EDE5C77-4BC1-4590-A067-75FAC66C0566@zyterra.com>
References: <F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F980210606895@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>
	<52713BB7.90405@gmail.com>
	<F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F980210606898@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>
	<9EDE5C77-4BC1-4590-A067-75FAC66C0566@zyterra.com>
Message-ID: <7eaae25cf16a40bb8b5cc7b619770d14@SIXPR04MB048.apcprd04.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Debbie.

'NT' as in Windows 2000 NT?

Cheers
Darryl.

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Debbie
Sent: Wednesday, 6 November 2013 1:33 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] OT : Computer trouble Help!

Hi all. I have come home to a laptop that has suddenly become a brick. 

My roommate says it asked about some update and restart, now nothing works. I get a flicker from the wireless light, but no others. I cannot turn it on to even get a blue screen. 

It has been running NT and is a bit low on hard drive space. Other than that everything has been doing well. 

Is this anything anyone has encountered before and knows a solution to?

Debbie
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From jbartow at winhaven.net  Tue Nov  5 23:00:43 2013
From: jbartow at winhaven.net (John R Bartow)
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 23:00:43 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT : Computer trouble Help!
In-Reply-To: <9EDE5C77-4BC1-4590-A067-75FAC66C0566@zyterra.com>
References: <F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F980210606895@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>	<52713BB7.90405@gmail.com>	<F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F980210606898@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>
	<9EDE5C77-4BC1-4590-A067-75FAC66C0566@zyterra.com>
Message-ID: <00c801cedaad$25fc4450$71f4ccf0$@winhaven.net>

Hi Debbie,
Do you mean Windows NT4? I'm guessing it gave up the ghost. Hard drive
failure, or other major component, coincidental with the update, which there
shouldn't be any of, since NT support was eliminated years ago. 

Unplug it and pull the battery out for 30 seconds. Put it back together and
plug it in. Turn it on. Hold your fingers on the case. If you can't feel any
vibration whatsoever then it's probably the hard drive is not starting. (You
should be able to tell the difference between the fans vibration and the
hard drives as the fans start immediately and the hard drive will start
shortly after.)

Otherwise need more info.
John B.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Debbie
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 8:33 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] OT : Computer trouble Help!

Hi all. I have come home to a laptop that has suddenly become a brick. 

My roommate says it asked about some update and restart, now nothing works.
I get a flicker from the wireless light, but no others. I cannot turn it on
to even get a blue screen. 

It has been running NT and is a bit low on hard drive space. Other than that
everything has been doing well. 

Is this anything anyone has encountered before and knows a solution to?

Debbie
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov  6 03:57:33 2013
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 10:57:33 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT : Computer trouble Help!
Message-ID: <003901cedad6$9d6a29c0$d83e7d40$@cactus.dk>

Hi Debbie

Eh ... your roommate didn't tell what was downloaded minutes before to
"clean up" or "increase speed" of the machine?

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Debbie
Sendt: 6. november 2013 03:33
Til: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Emne: [AccessD] OT : Computer trouble Help!

Hi all. I have come home to a laptop that has suddenly become a brick. 

My roommate says it asked about some update and restart, now nothing works.
I get a flicker from the wireless light, but no others. I cannot turn it on
to even get a blue screen. 

It has been running NT and is a bit low on hard drive space. Other than that
everything has been doing well. 

Is this anything anyone has encountered before and knows a solution to?

Debbie 



From delam at zyterra.com  Wed Nov  6 06:13:03 2013
From: delam at zyterra.com (Debbie)
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 06:13:03 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT : Computer trouble Help!
In-Reply-To: <003901cedad6$9d6a29c0$d83e7d40$@cactus.dk>
References: <003901cedad6$9d6a29c0$d83e7d40$@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <2240840F-8D25-490B-902B-2FB78FB4D64F@zyterra.com>

Groan, I am trying not to dwell on that. She is not tech savvy and just says yes when something official looking shows up. 

It is really acting as though the fan and the hard drive are kaput. I get no movement at all. I have tried removing and reseating the battery hoping power was the issue. 

I was hoping that someone had pulled this rabbit out if the hat before so I would not be shopping for a new computer. If I must, I must though. Wish it had happened when I was not paying off 2 major car breakdowns. 

If anyone has more ideas I am all ears. 

Debbie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 6, 2013, at 3:57 AM, "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> 
> Hi Debbie
> 
> Eh ... your roommate didn't tell what was downloaded minutes before to
> "clean up" or "increase speed" of the machine?
> 
> /gustav
> 
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Debbie
> Sendt: 6. november 2013 03:33
> Til: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Emne: [AccessD] OT : Computer trouble Help!
> 
> Hi all. I have come home to a laptop that has suddenly become a brick. 
> 
> My roommate says it asked about some update and restart, now nothing works.
> I get a flicker from the wireless light, but no others. I cannot turn it on
> to even get a blue screen. 
> 
> It has been running NT and is a bit low on hard drive space. Other than that
> everything has been doing well. 
> 
> Is this anything anyone has encountered before and knows a solution to?
> 
> Debbie 
> 
> 
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From jwcolby at gmail.com  Wed Nov  6 06:43:41 2013
From: jwcolby at gmail.com (John W Colby)
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 07:43:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT : Computer trouble Help!
In-Reply-To: <2240840F-8D25-490B-902B-2FB78FB4D64F@zyterra.com>
References: <003901cedad6$9d6a29c0$d83e7d40$@cactus.dk>
	<2240840F-8D25-490B-902B-2FB78FB4D64F@zyterra.com>
Message-ID: <527A397D.4080404@gmail.com>

It sounds entirely coincidental to me. If you are getting nothing then it is not even getting into 
the bios.  Modern viruses no longer wipe bioses, though it is technically possible I guess.

It sounds to me like it just died.  The disk may very well be salvageable however, in fact probably is.

John W. Colby

Reality is what refuses to go away
when you do not believe in it

On 11/6/2013 7:13 AM, Debbie wrote:
> Groan, I am trying not to dwell on that. She is not tech savvy and just says yes when something official looking shows up.
>
> It is really acting as though the fan and the hard drive are kaput. I get no movement at all. I have tried removing and reseating the battery hoping power was the issue.
>
> I was hoping that someone had pulled this rabbit out if the hat before so I would not be shopping for a new computer. If I must, I must though. Wish it had happened when I was not paying off 2 major car breakdowns.
>
> If anyone has more ideas I am all ears.
>
> Debbie
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 6, 2013, at 3:57 AM, "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Debbie
>>
>> Eh ... your roommate didn't tell what was downloaded minutes before to
>> "clean up" or "increase speed" of the machine?
>>
>> /gustav
>>
>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>> Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Debbie
>> Sendt: 6. november 2013 03:33
>> Til: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Emne: [AccessD] OT : Computer trouble Help!
>>
>> Hi all. I have come home to a laptop that has suddenly become a brick.
>>
>> My roommate says it asked about some update and restart, now nothing works.
>> I get a flicker from the wireless light, but no others. I cannot turn it on
>> to even get a blue screen.
>>
>> It has been running NT and is a bit low on hard drive space. Other than that
>> everything has been doing well.
>>
>> Is this anything anyone has encountered before and knows a solution to?
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>>
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From jimdettman at verizon.net  Wed Nov  6 07:10:42 2013
From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 08:10:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT : Computer trouble Help!
In-Reply-To: <9EDE5C77-4BC1-4590-A067-75FAC66C0566@zyterra.com>
References: <F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F980210606895@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>
	<52713BB7.90405@gmail.com>
	<F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F980210606898@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>
	<9EDE5C77-4BC1-4590-A067-75FAC66C0566@zyterra.com>
Message-ID: <F007C1A4845442ABA45018628087CB31@XPS>

Debbie,

 I would try and see if you can access the laptop's BIOS.   Typically,
that's done by pressing F2 at startup, but it can very from Mfg to Mfg.

 If you can't, then it's most certainly a failure of the motherboard or the
power supply.

 If you can access the BIOS, then you can reset to factory defaults and try
booting again.   It is possible that the BIOS memory has been scrambled
giving you un-bootable settings.

 There also may be diagnostics/status display that will tell you if your
hard drive is alive or not.

Jim. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Debbie
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 09:33 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] OT : Computer trouble Help!

Hi all. I have come home to a laptop that has suddenly become a brick. 

My roommate says it asked about some update and restart, now nothing works.
I get a flicker from the wireless light, but no others. I cannot turn it on
to even get a blue screen. 

It has been running NT and is a bit low on hard drive space. Other than that
everything has been doing well. 

Is this anything anyone has encountered before and knows a solution to?

Debbie
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From rockysmolin at bchacc.com  Wed Nov  6 07:35:25 2013
From: rockysmolin at bchacc.com (Rocky Smolin)
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 05:35:25 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT : Computer trouble Help!
In-Reply-To: <527A397D.4080404@gmail.com>
References: <003901cedad6$9d6a29c0$d83e7d40$@cactus.dk><2240840F-8D25-490B-902B-2FB78FB4D64F@zyterra.com>
	<527A397D.4080404@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01753C10759B4519959E3F7021D1ED0D@HAL9007>

Do you have a bootable OS CD to put in the CD drive to see if it will boot
from that?

Rocky


On 11/6/2013 7:13 AM, Debbie wrote:
> Groan, I am trying not to dwell on that. She is not tech savvy and just
says yes when something official looking shows up.
>
> It is really acting as though the fan and the hard drive are kaput. I get
no movement at all. I have tried removing and reseating the battery hoping
power was the issue.
>
> I was hoping that someone had pulled this rabbit out if the hat before so
I would not be shopping for a new computer. If I must, I must though. Wish
it had happened when I was not paying off 2 major car breakdowns.
>
> If anyone has more ideas I am all ears.
>
> Debbie
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 6, 2013, at 3:57 AM, "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Debbie
>>
>> Eh ... your roommate didn't tell what was downloaded minutes before 
>> to "clean up" or "increase speed" of the machine?
>>
>> /gustav
>>
>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>> Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Debbie
>> Sendt: 6. november 2013 03:33
>> Til: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Emne: [AccessD] OT : Computer trouble Help!
>>
>> Hi all. I have come home to a laptop that has suddenly become a brick.
>>
>> My roommate says it asked about some update and restart, now nothing
works.
>> I get a flicker from the wireless light, but no others. I cannot turn 
>> it on to even get a blue screen.
>>
>> It has been running NT and is a bit low on hard drive space. Other 
>> than that everything has been doing well.
>>
>> Is this anything anyone has encountered before and knows a solution to?
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>>
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From jwcolby at gmail.com  Wed Nov  6 07:41:42 2013
From: jwcolby at gmail.com (John W Colby)
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 08:41:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT : Computer trouble Help!
In-Reply-To: <00c801cedaad$25fc4450$71f4ccf0$@winhaven.net>
References: <F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F980210606895@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>	<52713BB7.90405@gmail.com>	<F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F980210606898@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>	<9EDE5C77-4BC1-4590-A067-75FAC66C0566@zyterra.com>
	<00c801cedaad$25fc4450$71f4ccf0$@winhaven.net>
Message-ID: <527A4716.9020605@gmail.com>

Even if no hard drive, there should be bios stuff.  It sounds like the bios is not starting which 
means entirely dead processor or memory.

John W. Colby

Reality is what refuses to go away
when you do not believe in it

On 11/6/2013 12:00 AM, John R Bartow wrote:
> Hi Debbie,
> Do you mean Windows NT4? I'm guessing it gave up the ghost. Hard drive
> failure, or other major component, coincidental with the update, which there
> shouldn't be any of, since NT support was eliminated years ago.
>
> Unplug it and pull the battery out for 30 seconds. Put it back together and
> plug it in. Turn it on. Hold your fingers on the case. If you can't feel any
> vibration whatsoever then it's probably the hard drive is not starting. (You
> should be able to tell the difference between the fans vibration and the
> hard drives as the fans start immediately and the hard drive will start
> shortly after.)
>
> Otherwise need more info.
> John B.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Debbie
> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 8:33 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] OT : Computer trouble Help!
>
> Hi all. I have come home to a laptop that has suddenly become a brick.
>
> My roommate says it asked about some update and restart, now nothing works.
> I get a flicker from the wireless light, but no others. I cannot turn it on
> to even get a blue screen.
>
> It has been running NT and is a bit low on hard drive space. Other than that
> everything has been doing well.
>
> Is this anything anyone has encountered before and knows a solution to?
>
> Debbie


From Lambert.Heenan at aig.com  Wed Nov  6 08:17:41 2013
From: Lambert.Heenan at aig.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 09:17:41 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Getting the Primary Key of a New records in Oracle
In-Reply-To: <49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB721701F39052F@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET>
References: <F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F9802187286D5@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>
	<49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB721701F39052F@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET>
Message-ID: <F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F980218728716@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>

That looked really promising, but as soon as the nPrimKey = ![ID] line executed I got an error 3167: Record is deleted. ;-(

Sub GetLastModfied()
Dim db As DAO.Database
Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
Dim nPrimKey As Long

    Set db = curdb
    Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("IB_Amounts", dbOpenDynaset)
    With rs
        .AddNew
        !CovId = "Test"
        !strComment = "Testing getting primary key"
        .Update
        .Bookmark = .LastModified
        nPrimKey = !ID
        .Close
    End With
    Set rs = Nothing
    Set db = Nothing
    Debug.Print nPrimKey, DLookup("Description", "IB_Amounts", "ID=" & nPrimKey)
End Sub

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 4:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving; ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Getting the Primary Key of a New records in Oracle

Lambert, use the LastModified property:

     With rst
	  .AddNew
             ![SomeField1] = "SomeValue"
             ![SomeField2] = "SomeValue2"
        .Update
        .BookMark = .LastModified
        intPriKey = ![PrimKeyID]
    End With

HTH,

Rusty

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 3:14 PM
To: 'Access-D Email (accessd at databaseadvisors.com)'; 'ACCESS-L Email(ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM)'
Subject: [AccessD] Getting the Primary Key of a New records in Oracle

Does anyone know how I can retrieve the primary key value from a new record just added to a linked Oracle table using VBA?

I.e. I create a records using VBA, populate the fields with VBA and update the record. How do I then find out what the primary key value allocated by Oracle is? The key field is of type NUMBER(10) and it is populated by a trigger (which I have no control over).

Lambert
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From jimdettman at verizon.net  Wed Nov  6 08:40:06 2013
From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 09:40:06 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Getting the Primary Key of a New records in Oracle
In-Reply-To: <F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F980218728716@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>
References: <F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F9802187286D5@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>
	<49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB721701F39052F@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET>
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Lambert,

  The logic is sound, but the problem is the ODBC table and that JET works
with keyset driven cursors.  You should read through the following:

"#Deleted" errors with linked ODBC tables
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/128809 

 and see if there's anything you might do differently with the table.  With
SQL Server for example, an easy fix in many cases is to add a timestamp
column to the table (which is a misnomer as it's not a timestamp field, but
works to turn on row versioning).

 Not sure if you can do anything with the table, but that logic typically
does work.

Jim.

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Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 09:18 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving';
'ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Getting the Primary Key of a New records in Oracle

That looked really promising, but as soon as the nPrimKey = ![ID] line
executed I got an error 3167: Record is deleted. ;-(

Sub GetLastModfied()
Dim db As DAO.Database
Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
Dim nPrimKey As Long

    Set db = curdb
    Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("IB_Amounts", dbOpenDynaset)
    With rs
        .AddNew
        !CovId = "Test"
        !strComment = "Testing getting primary key"
        .Update
        .Bookmark = .LastModified
        nPrimKey = !ID
        .Close
    End With
    Set rs = Nothing
    Set db = Nothing
    Debug.Print nPrimKey, DLookup("Description", "IB_Amounts", "ID=" &
nPrimKey)
End Sub

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 4:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving;
ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Getting the Primary Key of a New records in Oracle

Lambert, use the LastModified property:

     With rst
	  .AddNew
             ![SomeField1] = "SomeValue"
             ![SomeField2] = "SomeValue2"
        .Update
        .BookMark = .LastModified
        intPriKey = ![PrimKeyID]
    End With

HTH,

Rusty

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Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 3:14 PM
To: 'Access-D Email (accessd at databaseadvisors.com)'; 'ACCESS-L
Email(ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM)'
Subject: [AccessD] Getting the Primary Key of a New records in Oracle

Does anyone know how I can retrieve the primary key value from a new record
just added to a linked Oracle table using VBA?

I.e. I create a records using VBA, populate the fields with VBA and update
the record. How do I then find out what the primary key value allocated by
Oracle is? The key field is of type NUMBER(10) and it is populated by a
trigger (which I have no control over).

Lambert
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From delam at zyterra.com  Wed Nov  6 08:49:05 2013
From: delam at zyterra.com (Debbie)
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 08:49:05 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT : Computer trouble Help!
In-Reply-To: <527A4716.9020605@gmail.com>
References: <F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F980210606895@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>
	<52713BB7.90405@gmail.com>
	<F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F980210606898@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>
	<9EDE5C77-4BC1-4590-A067-75FAC66C0566@zyterra.com>
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	<527A4716.9020605@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F9E9F6F5-3460-4195-95C0-588F452D56DB@zyterra.com>

Nothing at all. I cannot get anything from it. Initially I thought it was unplugged and the power was drained. I double checked the cords, then reseated the battery. Still nothing. Saw the one dim wifi light after that. Has to be a power issue, or the motherboard or bios are gone. 

Guess I am computer shopping. 

Debbie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 6, 2013, at 7:41 AM, John W Colby <jwcolby at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Even if no hard drive, there should be bios stuff.  It sounds like the bios is not starting which means entirely dead processor or memory.
> 
> John W. Colby
> 
> Reality is what refuses to go away
> when you do not believe in it
> 
>> On 11/6/2013 12:00 AM, John R Bartow wrote:
>> Hi Debbie,
>> Do you mean Windows NT4? I'm guessing it gave up the ghost. Hard drive
>> failure, or other major component, coincidental with the update, which there
>> shouldn't be any of, since NT support was eliminated years ago.
>> 
>> Unplug it and pull the battery out for 30 seconds. Put it back together and
>> plug it in. Turn it on. Hold your fingers on the case. If you can't feel any
>> vibration whatsoever then it's probably the hard drive is not starting. (You
>> should be able to tell the difference between the fans vibration and the
>> hard drives as the fans start immediately and the hard drive will start
>> shortly after.)
>> 
>> Otherwise need more info.
>> John B.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Debbie
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 8:33 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: [AccessD] OT : Computer trouble Help!
>> 
>> Hi all. I have come home to a laptop that has suddenly become a brick.
>> 
>> My roommate says it asked about some update and restart, now nothing works.
>> I get a flicker from the wireless light, but no others. I cannot turn it on
>> to even get a blue screen.
>> 
>> It has been running NT and is a bit low on hard drive space. Other than that
>> everything has been doing well.
>> 
>> Is this anything anyone has encountered before and knows a solution to?
>> 
>> Debbie
> 
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From jimdettman at verizon.net  Wed Nov  6 08:55:09 2013
From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 09:55:09 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Getting the Primary Key of a New records in Oracle
In-Reply-To: <F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F980218728716@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>
References: <F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F9802187286D5@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>
	<49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB721701F39052F@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET>
	<F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F980218728716@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>
Message-ID: <2511F497D7F24717B20D7477A3011957@XPS>


 Here's another more recent article with a little more info:

PRB: Explaining "Record is deleted" error accessing ODBC table
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/172339 

One thing that you can sometimes do as well is use a different unique index
on the JET side.  This is not at all obvious.  You can find the technique
discussed here:

Optimizing Microsoft Office Access Applications Linked to SQL Server
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb188204.aspx

Read the section "Adjusting Dynaset Behavior" in "Understanding and
Addressing Performance Issues".  Also in "Understanding and Addressing
Updatability Issues" , read "Specifying a Unique Index".

While this article was written for SQL Server, I don't see why what is
stated would not work for any ODBC data source and it might get you around
your problem above.

Jim.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 09:18 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving';
'ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Getting the Primary Key of a New records in Oracle

That looked really promising, but as soon as the nPrimKey = ![ID] line
executed I got an error 3167: Record is deleted. ;-(

Sub GetLastModfied()
Dim db As DAO.Database
Dim rs As DAO.Recordset
Dim nPrimKey As Long

    Set db = curdb
    Set rs = db.OpenRecordset("IB_Amounts", dbOpenDynaset)
    With rs
        .AddNew
        !CovId = "Test"
        !strComment = "Testing getting primary key"
        .Update
        .Bookmark = .LastModified
        nPrimKey = !ID
        .Close
    End With
    Set rs = Nothing
    Set db = Nothing
    Debug.Print nPrimKey, DLookup("Description", "IB_Amounts", "ID=" &
nPrimKey)
End Sub

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rusty Hammond
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 4:49 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving;
ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Getting the Primary Key of a New records in Oracle

Lambert, use the LastModified property:

     With rst
	  .AddNew
             ![SomeField1] = "SomeValue"
             ![SomeField2] = "SomeValue2"
        .Update
        .BookMark = .LastModified
        intPriKey = ![PrimKeyID]
    End With

HTH,

Rusty

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Heenan, Lambert
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 3:14 PM
To: 'Access-D Email (accessd at databaseadvisors.com)'; 'ACCESS-L
Email(ACCESS-L at PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM)'
Subject: [AccessD] Getting the Primary Key of a New records in Oracle

Does anyone know how I can retrieve the primary key value from a new record
just added to a linked Oracle table using VBA?

I.e. I create a records using VBA, populate the fields with VBA and update
the record. How do I then find out what the primary key value allocated by
Oracle is? The key field is of type NUMBER(10) and it is populated by a
trigger (which I have no control over).

Lambert
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From jwcolby at gmail.com  Wed Nov  6 08:54:39 2013
From: jwcolby at gmail.com (John W Colby)
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 09:54:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT : Computer trouble Help!
In-Reply-To: <F9E9F6F5-3460-4195-95C0-588F452D56DB@zyterra.com>
References: <F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F980210606895@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>	<52713BB7.90405@gmail.com>	<F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F980210606898@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>	<9EDE5C77-4BC1-4590-A067-75FAC66C0566@zyterra.com>	<00c801cedaad$25fc4450$71f4ccf0$@winhaven.net>	<527A4716.9020605@gmail.com>
	<F9E9F6F5-3460-4195-95C0-588F452D56DB@zyterra.com>
Message-ID: <527A582F.9000306@gmail.com>

You can probably get the stuff off the hard disk using a USB disk caddy.

John W. Colby

Reality is what refuses to go away
when you do not believe in it

On 11/6/2013 9:49 AM, Debbie wrote:
> Nothing at all. I cannot get anything from it. Initially I thought it was unplugged and the power was drained. I double checked the cords, then reseated the battery. Still nothing. Saw the one dim wifi light after that. Has to be a power issue, or the motherboard or bios are gone.
>
> Guess I am computer shopping.
>
> Debbie
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 6, 2013, at 7:41 AM, John W Colby <jwcolby at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Even if no hard drive, there should be bios stuff.  It sounds like the bios is not starting which means entirely dead processor or memory.
>>
>> John W. Colby
>>
>> Reality is what refuses to go away
>> when you do not believe in it
>>
>>> On 11/6/2013 12:00 AM, John R Bartow wrote:
>>> Hi Debbie,
>>> Do you mean Windows NT4? I'm guessing it gave up the ghost. Hard drive
>>> failure, or other major component, coincidental with the update, which there
>>> shouldn't be any of, since NT support was eliminated years ago.
>>>
>>> Unplug it and pull the battery out for 30 seconds. Put it back together and
>>> plug it in. Turn it on. Hold your fingers on the case. If you can't feel any
>>> vibration whatsoever then it's probably the hard drive is not starting. (You
>>> should be able to tell the difference between the fans vibration and the
>>> hard drives as the fans start immediately and the hard drive will start
>>> shortly after.)
>>>
>>> Otherwise need more info.
>>> John B.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Debbie
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 8:33 PM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: [AccessD] OT : Computer trouble Help!
>>>
>>> Hi all. I have come home to a laptop that has suddenly become a brick.
>>>
>>> My roommate says it asked about some update and restart, now nothing works.
>>> I get a flicker from the wireless light, but no others. I cannot turn it on
>>> to even get a blue screen.
>>>
>>> It has been running NT and is a bit low on hard drive space. Other than that
>>> everything has been doing well.
>>>
>>> Is this anything anyone has encountered before and knows a solution to?
>>>
>>> Debbie
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From ralphb at cwgsy.net  Wed Nov  6 09:33:58 2013
From: ralphb at cwgsy.net (Ralph Bryce)
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 15:33:58 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] OT : Computer trouble Help!
In-Reply-To: <9EDE5C77-4BC1-4590-A067-75FAC66C0566@zyterra.com>
References: <F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F980210606895@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>
	<52713BB7.90405@gmail.com>
	<F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F980210606898@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>
	<9EDE5C77-4BC1-4590-A067-75FAC66C0566@zyterra.com>
Message-ID: <201311061533.rA6FXjgS025590@databaseadvisors.com>

Hi Debbie,

Can you beg/borrow/buy off ebay an identical laptop and swap the hard drives?
A machine of NT vintage should be cheap to pick up so you can at least easily
prove where the fault lies/access your data.

Ralph B


At 02:32 06/11/2013, you wrote:
>Hi all. I have come home to a laptop that has suddenly become a brick.
>
>My roommate says it asked about some update and restart, now nothing 
>works. I get a flicker from the wireless light, but no others. I 
>cannot turn it on to even get a blue screen.
>
>It has been running NT and is a bit low on hard drive space. Other 
>than that everything has been doing well.
>
>Is this anything anyone has encountered before and knows a solution to?
>
>Debbie
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From delam at zyterra.com  Wed Nov  6 10:19:57 2013
From: delam at zyterra.com (Debbie)
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 10:19:57 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT : Computer trouble Help!
In-Reply-To: <201311061533.rA6FXjgS025590@databaseadvisors.com>
References: <F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F980210606895@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>
	<52713BB7.90405@gmail.com>
	<F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F980210606898@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>
	<9EDE5C77-4BC1-4590-A067-75FAC66C0566@zyterra.com>
	<201311061533.rA6FXjgS025590@databaseadvisors.com>
Message-ID: <BD712A29-B199-4430-B9B7-8C12C5958D68@zyterra.com>

I have enough backups that I am not too concerned about data thank goodness. Might as well get reasonably up to date as I can for cheap while I am at it. 


Debbie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 6, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Ralph Bryce <ralphb at cwgsy.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Debbie,
> 
> Can you beg/borrow/buy off ebay an identical laptop and swap the hard drives?
> A machine of NT vintage should be cheap to pick up so you can at least easily
> prove where the fault lies/access your data.
> 
> Ralph B
> 
> 
> At 02:32 06/11/2013, you wrote:
>> Hi all. I have come home to a laptop that has suddenly become a brick.
>> 
>> My roommate says it asked about some update and restart, now nothing works. I get a flicker from the wireless light, but no others. I cannot turn it on to even get a blue screen.
>> 
>> It has been running NT and is a bit low on hard drive space. Other than that everything has been doing well.
>> 
>> Is this anything anyone has encountered before and knows a solution to?
>> 
>> Debbie
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From jimdettman at verizon.net  Wed Nov  6 10:37:53 2013
From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 11:37:53 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT : Computer trouble Help!
In-Reply-To: <BD712A29-B199-4430-B9B7-8C12C5958D68@zyterra.com>
References: <F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F980210606895@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>
	<52713BB7.90405@gmail.com>
	<F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F980210606898@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>
	<9EDE5C77-4BC1-4590-A067-75FAC66C0566@zyterra.com>
	<201311061533.rA6FXjgS025590@databaseadvisors.com>
	<BD712A29-B199-4430-B9B7-8C12C5958D68@zyterra.com>
Message-ID: <ECD40E9A618A413C95127854652F3C0C@XPS>


 Good job on that!   Usually this is the point where you the "backup?"
question. 

 In fact that reminds me, I've gotten lax again; I need to do a backup<g>.

  I'm getting spoiled by RAID setups.  They really have taken me out of
having the right mindset.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Debbie
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 11:20 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT : Computer trouble Help!

I have enough backups that I am not too concerned about data thank goodness.
Might as well get reasonably up to date as I can for cheap while I am at it.



Debbie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 6, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Ralph Bryce <ralphb at cwgsy.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Debbie,
> 
> Can you beg/borrow/buy off ebay an identical laptop and swap the hard
drives?
> A machine of NT vintage should be cheap to pick up so you can at least
easily
> prove where the fault lies/access your data.
> 
> Ralph B
> 
> 
> At 02:32 06/11/2013, you wrote:
>> Hi all. I have come home to a laptop that has suddenly become a brick.
>> 
>> My roommate says it asked about some update and restart, now nothing
works. I get a flicker from the wireless light, but no others. I cannot turn
it on to even get a blue screen.
>> 
>> It has been running NT and is a bit low on hard drive space. Other than
that everything has been doing well.
>> 
>> Is this anything anyone has encountered before and knows a solution to?
>> 
>> Debbie
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From darren at activebilling.com.au  Wed Nov  6 18:51:31 2013
From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren)
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 11:51:31 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:BAT/CMD file not outputting to log file
	if	run	from VBA
In-Reply-To: <509876075.52120599.1383697609482.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <527965F5.811.16CB9C55@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<509876075.52120599.1383697609482.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <005301cedb53$81338990$839a9cb0$@activebilling.com.au>

Hi Jim,
Interestingly I did have the full path for the log file (I had played with
just the log file path too)
But neither worked unless I double clicked the relevant file from the
folder. 
Running it VBA with Full Path or just file name gave me nothing.
Well, I thought it was nothing. The file was being written out - Just to the
MyDocs folder.
The solution was to add quotes about the full path of the logfile. 
In my myriad of hours and hours testing I thought I had tried at least a few
incarnations with quotes about the full path.
Turns out I didn't.
When Stuart made his comment I searched on the logfile name and voila -
there it sat in the MyDocs.
I'm sure someone on the list here can explain why it outputs but to a diff
location.
I also tried yours and Lambert's suggestion but without success.
I also removed the 'echo' comments, again without success.
Thanks for the help


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, 6 November 2013 11:27 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003:BAT/CMD file not outputting to log file if run
from VBA

Would that suggest that a line like:

blah blah blah >> <absolute pathname>\LogFile.txt

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2013 1:41:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003:BAT/CMD file not outputting to log file if run
from VBA

Bet you a beer that it's a "current directory" problem. :)

Either, your batch file is running in a directory that won't let you append
to a file or your Logfile.txt is being written to but it is not where you
think it is.



-- 
Stuart

On 6 Nov 2013 at 2:31, Darren wrote:

> Hi guys
> 
> 
> 
> I have a CMD file that is run from VBA.
> 
> Inside this CMD file are lines like: 
> 
> 
> 
>      Echo blah blah blah >> LogFile.txt
> 
> 
> 
> All good and pretty basic - If I double click the CMD or BAT file the
> outputting to the log file via the '>>' works a treat.
> 
> If I 'run' the CMD/BAT file from VBA then the file runs but the >>
> bits seem to be ignored.
> 
> As a result the log file isn't created and (of course) there are no
> log entries.
> 
> I have tried with CMD and with BAT files
> 
> I have tried calling the BAT/CMD file a few ways from within VBA too.
> All no joy.
> 
> 
> 
> Dim strFileToRun As String
> 
> strFileToRun = Me.txtDeployFileToBuildPath
> 
> ''strFileToRun = "C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL
> Server\90\Tools\Binn\Run.bat"
> 
> 
> 
> Dim retval
> 
> 'retval = Shell(strFileToRun, vbNormal)
> 
> 
> 
> Call fHandleFile(strFileToRun, -1)
> 
> 'Call Shell(strFileToRun, 0)
> 
> 
> 
> And so on
> 
> 
> 
> Anyone come across this before?
> 
> 
> 
> Many thanks in advance
> 
> D
> 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Nov  6 19:46:51 2013
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2013 11:46:51 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] A2003:BAT/CMD file not outputting to log file if run
	from VBA
In-Reply-To: <005301cedb53$81338990$839a9cb0$@activebilling.com.au>
References: <527965F5.811.16CB9C55@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>,
	<509876075.52120599.1383697609482.JavaMail.root@cds002>,
	<005301cedb53$81338990$839a9cb0$@activebilling.com.au>
Message-ID: <527AF10B.21415.47C73FE@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

The batch file did not have the full path for the log file specified.

When you double clicked on the batch file in the folder, the command interpreter ran the 
batch file FROM that folder.  If you open a Cmd prompt, change to c:\ and then type the full 
path and name of the batch file, it will run from the root directory and create the log file there.


When you opened it from VBA, the batch file was invoked from the  current directory for 
Access applications  The default is My Documents, but you can change that in Access 
Options.. ( Do a Cltr+G and then type "? curdir")


-- 
Stuart

On 7 Nov 2013 at 11:51, Darren wrote:

> Hi Jim,
> Interestingly I did have the full path for the log file (I had played
> with just the log file path too) But neither worked unless I double
> clicked the relevant file from the folder. Running it VBA with Full
> Path or just file name gave me nothing. Well, I thought it was
> nothing. The file was being written out - Just to the MyDocs folder.
> The solution was to add quotes about the full path of the logfile. In
> my myriad of hours and hours testing I thought I had tried at least a
> few incarnations with quotes about the full path. Turns out I didn't.
> When Stuart made his comment I searched on the logfile name and voila
> - there it sat in the MyDocs. I'm sure someone on the list here can
> explain why it outputs but to a diff location. I also tried yours and
> Lambert's suggestion but without success. I also removed the 'echo'
> comments, again without success. Thanks for the help
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, 6 November 2013 11:27 AM To: Access
> Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD]
> A2003:BAT/CMD file not outputting to log file if run from VBA
> 
> Would that suggest that a line like:
> 
> blah blah blah >> <absolute pathname>\LogFile.txt
> 
> Jim
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2013 1:41:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] A2003:BAT/CMD file not outputting to log file
> if run from VBA
> 
> Bet you a beer that it's a "current directory" problem. :)
> 
> Either, your batch file is running in a directory that won't let you
> append to a file or your Logfile.txt is being written to but it is not
> where you think it is.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Stuart
> 
> On 6 Nov 2013 at 2:31, Darren wrote:
> 
> > Hi guys
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I have a CMD file that is run from VBA.
> > 
> > Inside this CMD file are lines like: 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >      Echo blah blah blah >> LogFile.txt
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > All good and pretty basic - If I double click the CMD or BAT file
> > the outputting to the log file via the '>>' works a treat.
> > 
> > If I 'run' the CMD/BAT file from VBA then the file runs but the >>
> > bits seem to be ignored.
> > 
> > As a result the log file isn't created and (of course) there are no
> > log entries.
> > 
> > I have tried with CMD and with BAT files
> > 
> > I have tried calling the BAT/CMD file a few ways from within VBA
> > too. All no joy.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Dim strFileToRun As String
> > 
> > strFileToRun = Me.txtDeployFileToBuildPath
> > 
> > ''strFileToRun = "C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL
> > Server\90\Tools\Binn\Run.bat"
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Dim retval
> > 
> > 'retval = Shell(strFileToRun, vbNormal)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Call fHandleFile(strFileToRun, -1)
> > 
> > 'Call Shell(strFileToRun, 0)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > And so on
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Anyone come across this before?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Many thanks in advance
> > 
> > D
> > 
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From df.waters at comcast.net  Thu Nov  7 09:51:16 2013
From: df.waters at comcast.net (Dan Waters)
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 09:51:16 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Developer / Beer Czar Wanted
Message-ID: <002601cedbd1$3198ac20$94ca0460$@comcast.net>

Take a look at www.weworkremotely.com.  Search for Beer Czar - and get ready
to prove that you can do the job!!  J

 

Dan

 


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu Nov  7 14:31:36 2013
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 15:31:36 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Developer / Beer Czar Wanted
In-Reply-To: <002601cedbd1$3198ac20$94ca0460$@comcast.net>
References: <002601cedbd1$3198ac20$94ca0460$@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1iqe1qHGpg0RWBL9pC41fhw1Xtp=jN8siHkmgZM_R0cLg@mail.gmail.com>

Actually I don't much like beer, but the title of "Beer czar" is appealing.
I can see wearing that as my semi-retirement project.


On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Dan Waters <df.waters at comcast.net> wrote:

> Take a look at www.weworkremotely.com.  Search for Beer Czar - and get
> ready
> to prove that you can do the job!!  J
>
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
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From kismert at gmail.com  Thu Nov  7 16:20:20 2013
From: kismert at gmail.com (kismert .)
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 16:20:20 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Contract Work
Message-ID: <CAMEw5yVJXeKTDWy3iq+e7Bp46qrkx1TChLt=yW8oS7018zqjjQ@mail.gmail.com>

Accelerated Production Systems, a Texas-based Engineering and Fabrication
company, has some Access work that we want to subcontract out.

It involves converting 3-5 Access 2000 databases to Access 2010. Tasks:

   - Create a Ribbon that replaces the functionality of the old Command Bar
   menu.
   - Addressing any other Access 2010 compatibility issues.
   - Being able to work along the lines of a mostly-completed go-by example
   - Creating a deployment package using the Access 2010 Runtime.

This should be catnip for those new-fangled ribbon lovers out there!

Let me know if you are interested in doing this work!

-Ken

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu Nov  7 16:36:24 2013
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 17:36:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Contract Work
In-Reply-To: <CAMEw5yVJXeKTDWy3iq+e7Bp46qrkx1TChLt=yW8oS7018zqjjQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMEw5yVJXeKTDWy3iq+e7Bp46qrkx1TChLt=yW8oS7018zqjjQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1jOeJLqX0d8f_x2uZHA6UyGf+83xe=wCLGosRNnY-22FQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Ken,

I could do this, but only remotely, since I live in Canada. But I have done
lots of work like this over the net. The largest question in your post is
the bullet about a new ribbon. I can do that, but I need more specs.

Arthur

From jm.hwsn at gmail.com  Thu Nov  7 19:15:25 2013
From: jm.hwsn at gmail.com (jm.hwsn)
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 19:15:25 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Contract Work
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1jOeJLqX0d8f_x2uZHA6UyGf+83xe=wCLGosRNnY-22FQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMEw5yVJXeKTDWy3iq+e7Bp46qrkx1TChLt=yW8oS7018zqjjQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1jOeJLqX0d8f_x2uZHA6UyGf+83xe=wCLGosRNnY-22FQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <32109BE0D464487296BB1081C424A332@HomePC>

Hi Ken,
I'm with Arthur on this one. The ribbons are time consuming.  Especially 
since you have to start from scratch on each one.... that is if there are 
any differences at all. Each form could require new coding for the ribbon.

I'm in San Antonio, a mere four hour jaunt from their corporate headquarters 
in The Woodlands.  However, I think Arthur should have this work. It would 
be after the new year before I could even think about another contract.

Jim

-----Original Message----- 
From: Arthur Fuller
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 4:36 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Contract Work

Hi Ken,

I could do this, but only remotely, since I live in Canada. But I have done
lots of work like this over the net. The largest question in your post is
the bullet about a new ribbon. I can do that, but I need more specs.

Arthur
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Nov  8 10:15:56 2013
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 11:15:56 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Contract Work
In-Reply-To: <32109BE0D464487296BB1081C424A332@HomePC>
References: <CAMEw5yVJXeKTDWy3iq+e7Bp46qrkx1TChLt=yW8oS7018zqjjQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1jOeJLqX0d8f_x2uZHA6UyGf+83xe=wCLGosRNnY-22FQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<32109BE0D464487296BB1081C424A332@HomePC>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1inaJSTL5x1z99JhEnjpy27xsU9ASe173wXkpLAEp7Qjw@mail.gmail.com>

Jim,

I've been to San Antonio, and walked its breathtaking canals and spent way
too much money in those lovely restaurants. Yeah, and I all the tourist
stuff, you know, fabulous food, one or two hookers, even took a side trip
to The Alamo.

I would be happy to tackle this challenge, or as we prefer to say in the
Great White North, to wrestle this pig to the ground. I have actually done
that, and not in the metaphoric sense. Do you have any idea how difficult
it is to wrestle a pig? Your average pig weighs at least 100 pounds more
than I do. Therefore the only way to win is with brains and agility. It's a
lot like software development.

Arthur


From jwcolby at gmail.com  Fri Nov  8 10:26:02 2013
From: jwcolby at gmail.com (John W Colby)
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 11:26:02 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Contract Work
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1inaJSTL5x1z99JhEnjpy27xsU9ASe173wXkpLAEp7Qjw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMEw5yVJXeKTDWy3iq+e7Bp46qrkx1TChLt=yW8oS7018zqjjQ@mail.gmail.com>	<CAEPJO1jOeJLqX0d8f_x2uZHA6UyGf+83xe=wCLGosRNnY-22FQ@mail.gmail.com>	<32109BE0D464487296BB1081C424A332@HomePC>
	<CAEPJO1inaJSTL5x1z99JhEnjpy27xsU9ASe173wXkpLAEp7Qjw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <527D109A.9000202@gmail.com>

Pigs are pretty darned smart as well, maybe smarter than Arthur?  ;)

John W. Colby

Reality is what refuses to go away
when you do not believe in it

On 11/8/2013 11:15 AM, Arthur Fuller wrote:
> Jim,
>
> I've been to San Antonio, and walked its breathtaking canals and spent way
> too much money in those lovely restaurants. Yeah, and I all the tourist
> stuff, you know, fabulous food, one or two hookers, even took a side trip
> to The Alamo.
>
> I would be happy to tackle this challenge, or as we prefer to say in the
> Great White North, to wrestle this pig to the ground. I have actually done
> that, and not in the metaphoric sense. Do you have any idea how difficult
> it is to wrestle a pig? Your average pig weighs at least 100 pounds more
> than I do. Therefore the only way to win is with brains and agility. It's a
> lot like software development.
>
> Arthur
>


From kismert at gmail.com  Fri Nov  8 11:33:11 2013
From: kismert at gmail.com (kismert .)
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 11:33:11 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Contract Work
Message-ID: <CAMEw5yVtNOTOAA9qJ=57cDT4fPVcbLeq=5hGU0v8GL6uat+HsA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks gents, for your interest! Art, I will be getting with you off list.

-Ken

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Nov  8 11:47:21 2013
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 12:47:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Contract Work
In-Reply-To: <CAMEw5yVtNOTOAA9qJ=57cDT4fPVcbLeq=5hGU0v8GL6uat+HsA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMEw5yVtNOTOAA9qJ=57cDT4fPVcbLeq=5hGU0v8GL6uat+HsA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1h6pVqA2KuT2XMzjJUoO0TYvZ_igKkM+srm1cb_oUSquA@mail.gmail.com>

JWC,

I hereby challenge you to a pig-rodeo in which the fewest seconds to the
ground of an unknown pig is the winner. But I want Gustav to enter also.
Maybe we could call it Coders versus Oinkers, and sell the concept to some
sports-tv network. Oh god, I can hardly to wait to see Anita in the ring,
and Tina, and Helen, and Susan,. doubtless wearing something scanty. This
could be a huge hit: Coders Versus Oinkers! Ya ya ya.


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:33 PM, kismert . <kismert at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks gents, for your interest! Art, I will be getting with you off list.
>
> -Ken
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From jwcolby at gmail.com  Fri Nov  8 11:49:46 2013
From: jwcolby at gmail.com (John Colby)
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 12:49:46 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Contract Work
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1h6pVqA2KuT2XMzjJUoO0TYvZ_igKkM+srm1cb_oUSquA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMEw5yVtNOTOAA9qJ=57cDT4fPVcbLeq=5hGU0v8GL6uat+HsA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1h6pVqA2KuT2XMzjJUoO0TYvZ_igKkM+srm1cb_oUSquA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAA_iUE_6U7D3F9NUdNW0dZCNxH6NP3jC-UbCSMXqaiTR+dw2Uw@mail.gmail.com>

What you don't want to see me in something skimpy?
On Nov 8, 2013 12:48 PM, "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:

> JWC,
>
> I hereby challenge you to a pig-rodeo in which the fewest seconds to the
> ground of an unknown pig is the winner. But I want Gustav to enter also.
> Maybe we could call it Coders versus Oinkers, and sell the concept to some
> sports-tv network. Oh god, I can hardly to wait to see Anita in the ring,
> and Tina, and Helen, and Susan,. doubtless wearing something scanty. This
> could be a huge hit: Coders Versus Oinkers! Ya ya ya.
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:33 PM, kismert . <kismert at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks gents, for your interest! Art, I will be getting with you off
> list.
> >
> > -Ken
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> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> >
>
>
>
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov  8 11:59:09 2013
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 18:59:09 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Contract Work
Message-ID: <008a01cedcac$39850e70$ac8f2b50$@cactus.dk>

Hi John

Ah, I can see Arthur's brain screams for true challenges and now is running
wild. 
Let's hope Ken can keep him busy for a while - a couple of ribbons is a good
start!

/gustav


-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af John Colby
Sendt: 8. november 2013 18:50
Til: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Emne: Re: [AccessD] OT: Contract Work

What you don't want to see me in something skimpy?
On Nov 8, 2013 12:48 PM, "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:

> JWC,
>
> I hereby challenge you to a pig-rodeo in which the fewest seconds to 
> the ground of an unknown pig is the winner. But I want Gustav to enter
also.
> Maybe we could call it Coders versus Oinkers, and sell the concept to 
> some sports-tv network. Oh god, I can hardly to wait to see Anita in 
> the ring, and Tina, and Helen, and Susan,. doubtless wearing something 
> scanty. This could be a huge hit: Coders Versus Oinkers! Ya ya ya.
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:33 PM, kismert . <kismert at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks gents, for your interest! Art, I will be getting with you off
list.
> >
> > -Ken 




From jwcolby at gmail.com  Fri Nov  8 12:01:14 2013
From: jwcolby at gmail.com (John Colby)
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 13:01:14 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Contract Work
In-Reply-To: <008a01cedcac$39850e70$ac8f2b50$@cactus.dk>
References: <008a01cedcac$39850e70$ac8f2b50$@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <CAA_iUE8PSkyGrt2VwD16PO-UEou3F20s6cn3CP4ZmWnxbYjVuw@mail.gmail.com>

Much better than you and I running around in something skimpy
On Nov 8, 2013 1:00 PM, "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:

> Hi John
>
> Ah, I can see Arthur's brain screams for true challenges and now is running
> wild.
> Let's hope Ken can keep him busy for a while - a couple of ribbons is a
> good
> start!
>
> /gustav
>
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af John Colby
> Sendt: 8. november 2013 18:50
> Til: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Emne: Re: [AccessD] OT: Contract Work
>
> What you don't want to see me in something skimpy?
> On Nov 8, 2013 12:48 PM, "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > JWC,
> >
> > I hereby challenge you to a pig-rodeo in which the fewest seconds to
> > the ground of an unknown pig is the winner. But I want Gustav to enter
> also.
> > Maybe we could call it Coders versus Oinkers, and sell the concept to
> > some sports-tv network. Oh god, I can hardly to wait to see Anita in
> > the ring, and Tina, and Helen, and Susan,. doubtless wearing something
> > scanty. This could be a huge hit: Coders Versus Oinkers! Ya ya ya.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:33 PM, kismert . <kismert at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks gents, for your interest! Art, I will be getting with you off
> list.
> > >
> > > -Ken
>
>
>
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Nov  8 13:55:42 2013
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 14:55:42 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Contract Work
In-Reply-To: <CAA_iUE8PSkyGrt2VwD16PO-UEou3F20s6cn3CP4ZmWnxbYjVuw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <008a01cedcac$39850e70$ac8f2b50$@cactus.dk>
	<CAA_iUE8PSkyGrt2VwD16PO-UEou3F20s6cn3CP4ZmWnxbYjVuw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1i4u6GSwpXVRvtyNDcHcgC+2Fiw8LJh0LGWsde+=_ivmA@mail.gmail.com>

Frankly, I don't think that I'd look that good in something skimpy. Better
to put me in some kind of Innuit snowmobile suit.

A.


From charlotte.foust at gmail.com  Fri Nov  8 14:41:04 2013
From: charlotte.foust at gmail.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 12:41:04 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Contract Work
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1h6pVqA2KuT2XMzjJUoO0TYvZ_igKkM+srm1cb_oUSquA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMEw5yVtNOTOAA9qJ=57cDT4fPVcbLeq=5hGU0v8GL6uat+HsA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1h6pVqA2KuT2XMzjJUoO0TYvZ_igKkM+srm1cb_oUSquA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAH+Met-pFcQZSR8P-594Lv7NDfJdr_Zx-reasL9qR_+A_nwyiQ@mail.gmail.com>

I love pigs!  Can I play?  Nothing scanty for my old bones, maybe a clown
costume?

Charlotte


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>wrote:

> JWC,
>
> I hereby challenge you to a pig-rodeo in which the fewest seconds to the
> ground of an unknown pig is the winner. But I want Gustav to enter also.
> Maybe we could call it Coders versus Oinkers, and sell the concept to some
> sports-tv network. Oh god, I can hardly to wait to see Anita in the ring,
> and Tina, and Helen, and Susan,. doubtless wearing something scanty. This
> could be a huge hit: Coders Versus Oinkers! Ya ya ya.
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:33 PM, kismert . <kismert at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks gents, for your interest! Art, I will be getting with you off
> list.
> >
> > -Ken
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> >
>
>
>
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Nov 12 11:05:57 2013
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 12:05:57 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Question for Access Developers
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1hP-vHdiDLLFS542sSJAXAMcRUrXDoSCtmv3cegvwoJGw@mail.gmail.com>

Imagine that some firm emerged with an Access compiler, that skipped all
the Run-Time stuff and generated an EXE that supported everything that in
V.1.0 supported everything up to and including Access 2007, but thanks to a
switch could permanently hide various Access objects such as the Database
window etc.. Would you be interested in such a product? Or alternatively,
would you just prefer to move on to another product such as Visual Studio,
Alpha Anywhere, etc.?

-- 
Arthur

From dbdoug at gmail.com  Tue Nov 12 12:06:40 2013
From: dbdoug at gmail.com (Doug Steele)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 10:06:40 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Question for Access Developers
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hP-vHdiDLLFS542sSJAXAMcRUrXDoSCtmv3cegvwoJGw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hP-vHdiDLLFS542sSJAXAMcRUrXDoSCtmv3cegvwoJGw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFa8Nkja3CSsYLp5Ak3Dc=ShFLswY3XWfDaOgGPb8BjqZD4bnw@mail.gmail.com>

Sounds good - spent a busy weekend coding, did you?

Doug


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>wrote:

> Imagine that some firm emerged with an Access compiler, that skipped all
> the Run-Time stuff and generated an EXE that supported everything that in
> V.1.0 supported everything up to and including Access 2007, but thanks to a
> switch could permanently hide various Access objects such as the Database
> window etc.. Would you be interested in such a product? Or alternatively,
> would you just prefer to move on to another product such as Visual Studio,
> Alpha Anywhere, etc.?
>
> --
> Arthur
> --
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

From michael at mattysconsulting.com  Tue Nov 12 12:36:04 2013
From: michael at mattysconsulting.com (Michael Mattys)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 13:36:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Question for Access Developers
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hP-vHdiDLLFS542sSJAXAMcRUrXDoSCtmv3cegvwoJGw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hP-vHdiDLLFS542sSJAXAMcRUrXDoSCtmv3cegvwoJGw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000f01cedfd6$0cad9160$2608b420$@mattysconsulting.com>

Something that compiles to machine language?
Are you including ADP's? Would it still be temperamental about linked
tables?
Could we do web development with it?

If so, I am buying!

Michael R Mattys
Mattys Consulting, LLC
www.mattysconsulting.com

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 12:06 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Question for Access Developers

Imagine that some firm emerged with an Access compiler, that skipped all the
Run-Time stuff and generated an EXE that supported everything that in
V.1.0 supported everything up to and including Access 2007, but thanks to a
switch could permanently hide various Access objects such as the Database
window etc.. Would you be interested in such a product? Or alternatively,
would you just prefer to move on to another product such as Visual Studio,
Alpha Anywhere, etc.?

--
Arthur
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http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Tue Nov 12 12:46:17 2013
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 22:46:17 +0400
Subject: [AccessD] =?utf-8?q?Poll=3A_Question_for_Access_Developers?=
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hP-vHdiDLLFS542sSJAXAMcRUrXDoSCtmv3cegvwoJGw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hP-vHdiDLLFS542sSJAXAMcRUrXDoSCtmv3cegvwoJGw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1384281977.512367689@f434.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Arthur --

Access 1.0 - 2007 compiler, converting mdbs with VBA modules into VB.NET/C# sources, compiling them into DLLs and linking with ?.NET-based runtime engine (EXEs and DLLs) would be useful I suppose.
VBA as it's now - is 'evil' (I mean not VBA language but its unstable for 'legal tricks' engine) - it should be substituted with VB.NET/C#, or interpreted using VB.NET/C# based new engine.
In theory such a compiler compiling into .NET exe can be done (I do not see any technical obstacles) as the current version of VB.NET/C# covers VB6/VBA (including dynamic binding, eval etc.) - actually current versions of VB.NET and C# have much more powerful and very effectively working late binding VB6/VBA have never had. All the MS Access 1.0-2007 functionality can be programmed/interpreted by using VB.NET/C#...

In practice I think Visual Studio LightSwitch ( http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/ff796201.aspx ) is going to occupy the niche of "MS Access 1.0-2007 compiler". So the chances of "MS Access 1.0 - 2007 exe compiler" to appear are very low. I'd be happy if I'd be found wrong with my last statement.

Thank you.

-- Shamil


Tuesday, November 12, 2013 12:05 PM -05:00 from Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>:
>Imagine that some firm emerged with an Access compiler, that skipped all
>the Run-Time stuff and generated an EXE that supported everything that in
>V.1.0 supported everything up to and including Access 2007, but thanks to a
>switch could permanently hide various Access objects such as the Database
>window etc.. Would you be interested in such a product? Or alternatively,
>would you just prefer to move on to another product such as Visual Studio,
>Alpha Anywhere, etc.?
>
>-- 
>Arthur
>-- 
>AccessD mailing list
>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>Website:  http://www.databaseadvisors.com


-- 
???????????? ??????

From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Nov 12 14:09:44 2013
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 15:09:44 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Question for Access Developers
In-Reply-To: <1384281977.512367689@f434.i.mail.ru>
References: <CAEPJO1hP-vHdiDLLFS542sSJAXAMcRUrXDoSCtmv3cegvwoJGw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1384281977.512367689@f434.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1jXM8kxf-gD7sWEKLrSauMX-w=3Z4VzWeptUTaheeJ1Gw@mail.gmail.com>

Shamil,

I thought that LightSwitch was declared dead by MS. Perhaps I'm wrong.

Arthur


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil <mcp2004 at mail.ru>wrote:

>  Hi Arthur --
>
> Access 1.0 - 2007 compiler, converting mdbs with VBA modules into
> VB.NET/C# sources, compiling them into DLLs and linking with  .NET-based
> runtime engine (EXEs and DLLs) would be useful I suppose.
> VBA as it's now - is 'evil' (I mean not VBA language but its unstable for
> 'legal tricks' engine) - it should be substituted with VB.NET/C#, or
> interpreted using VB.NET/C# based new engine.
> In theory such a compiler compiling into .NET exe can be done (I do not
> see any technical obstacles) as the current version of VB.NET/C# covers
> VB6/VBA (including dynamic binding, eval etc.) - actually current versions
> of VB.NET and C# have much more powerful and very effectively working
> late binding VB6/VBA have never had. All the MS Access 1.0-2007
> functionality can be programmed/interpreted by using VB.NET/C#...
>
> In practice I think Visual Studio LightSwitch (
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/ff796201.aspx ) is going to
> occupy the niche of "MS Access 1.0-2007 compiler". So the chances of "MS
> Access 1.0 - 2007 exe compiler" to appear are very low. I'd be happy if I'd
> be found wrong with my last statement.
>
> Thank you.
>
> -- Shamil
>
>
>

From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Tue Nov 12 14:26:26 2013
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 06:26:26 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Question for Access Developers
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1hP-vHdiDLLFS542sSJAXAMcRUrXDoSCtmv3cegvwoJGw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hP-vHdiDLLFS542sSJAXAMcRUrXDoSCtmv3cegvwoJGw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <52828EF2.32661.7C7A29D@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

If it were a true Exe and didn't depend on a .Net framework or similar  I'd be right into it.

-- 
Stuart

On 12 Nov 2013 at 12:05, Arthur Fuller wrote:

> Imagine that some firm emerged with an Access compiler, that skipped
> all the Run-Time stuff and generated an EXE that supported everything
> that in V.1.0 supported everything up to and including Access 2007,
> but thanks to a switch could permanently hide various Access objects
> such as the Database window etc.. Would you be interested in such a
> product? Or alternatively, would you just prefer to move on to another
> product such as Visual Studio, Alpha Anywhere, etc.?
> 
> -- 
> Arthur
> -- 
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 



From dw-murphy at cox.net  Tue Nov 12 14:32:05 2013
From: dw-murphy at cox.net (Doug Murphy)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 12:32:05 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Question for Access Developers
In-Reply-To: <okBT1m01D0xgD8Z01kBVeX>
References: <CAEPJO1hP-vHdiDLLFS542sSJAXAMcRUrXDoSCtmv3cegvwoJGw@mail.gmail.com>	<1384281977.512367689@f434.i.mail.ru>
	<okBT1m01D0xgD8Z01kBVeX>
Message-ID: <007101cedfe6$40996570$c1cc3050$@cox.net>

It is alive and well, http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/ff796201.aspx.


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 12:10 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll: Question for Access Developers

Shamil,

I thought that LightSwitch was declared dead by MS. Perhaps I'm wrong.

Arthur


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil
<mcp2004 at mail.ru>wrote:

>  Hi Arthur --
>
> Access 1.0 - 2007 compiler, converting mdbs with VBA modules into 
> VB.NET/C# sources, compiling them into DLLs and linking with  
> .NET-based runtime engine (EXEs and DLLs) would be useful I suppose.
> VBA as it's now - is 'evil' (I mean not VBA language but its unstable 
> for 'legal tricks' engine) - it should be substituted with VB.NET/C#, 
> or interpreted using VB.NET/C# based new engine.
> In theory such a compiler compiling into .NET exe can be done (I do 
> not see any technical obstacles) as the current version of VB.NET/C# 
> covers VB6/VBA (including dynamic binding, eval etc.) - actually 
> current versions of VB.NET and C# have much more powerful and very 
> effectively working late binding VB6/VBA have never had. All the MS 
> Access 1.0-2007 functionality can be programmed/interpreted by using
VB.NET/C#...
>
> In practice I think Visual Studio LightSwitch ( 
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/ff796201.aspx ) is going to 
> occupy the niche of "MS Access 1.0-2007 compiler". So the chances of 
> "MS Access 1.0 - 2007 exe compiler" to appear are very low. I'd be 
> happy if I'd be found wrong with my last statement.
>
> Thank you.
>
> -- Shamil
>
>
>
--
AccessD mailing list
AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com


From Rusty.Hammond at cpiqpc.com  Tue Nov 12 14:51:31 2013
From: Rusty.Hammond at cpiqpc.com (Rusty Hammond)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 14:51:31 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Question for Access Developers
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1jXM8kxf-gD7sWEKLrSauMX-w=3Z4VzWeptUTaheeJ1Gw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1384281977.512367689@f434.i.mail.ru>
	<CAEPJO1jXM8kxf-gD7sWEKLrSauMX-w=3Z4VzWeptUTaheeJ1Gw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB721701F39059C@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET>

Arthur,

You might be thinking of Silverlight being dead.

Rusty 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 2:10 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll: Question for Access Developers

Shamil,

I thought that LightSwitch was declared dead by MS. Perhaps I'm wrong.

Arthur


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil
<mcp2004 at mail.ru>wrote:

>  Hi Arthur --
>
> Access 1.0 - 2007 compiler, converting mdbs with VBA modules into 
> VB.NET/C# sources, compiling them into DLLs and linking with  
> .NET-based runtime engine (EXEs and DLLs) would be useful I suppose.
> VBA as it's now - is 'evil' (I mean not VBA language but its unstable 
> for 'legal tricks' engine) - it should be substituted with VB.NET/C#, 
> or interpreted using VB.NET/C# based new engine.
> In theory such a compiler compiling into .NET exe can be done (I do 
> not see any technical obstacles) as the current version of VB.NET/C# 
> covers VB6/VBA (including dynamic binding, eval etc.) - actually 
> current versions of VB.NET and C# have much more powerful and very 
> effectively working late binding VB6/VBA have never had. All the MS 
> Access 1.0-2007 functionality can be programmed/interpreted by using
VB.NET/C#...
>
> In practice I think Visual Studio LightSwitch ( 
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/ff796201.aspx ) is going to 
> occupy the niche of "MS Access 1.0-2007 compiler". So the chances of 
> "MS Access 1.0 - 2007 exe compiler" to appear are very low. I'd be 
> happy if I'd be found wrong with my last statement.
>
> Thank you.
>
> -- Shamil
>
>
>
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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Nov 12 14:58:07 2013
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 15:58:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Question for Access Developers
In-Reply-To: <49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB721701F39059C@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET>
References: <1384281977.512367689@f434.i.mail.ru>
	<CAEPJO1jXM8kxf-gD7sWEKLrSauMX-w=3Z4VzWeptUTaheeJ1Gw@mail.gmail.com>
	<49A286ABF515E94A8505CD14DEB721701F39059C@CPIEMAIL-EVS1.CPIQPC.NET>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1itixigmwPbKGPjtgerQe2+9bGHpgTw=OXt=fC8ZguwyA@mail.gmail.com>

Rusty,

Good guess. That's what I was thinking of.

Arthur


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Rusty Hammond <Rusty.Hammond at cpiqpc.com>wrote:

> Arthur,
>
> You might be thinking of Silverlight being dead.
>
> Rusty
>
>

From marksimms at verizon.net  Wed Nov 13 05:10:09 2013
From: marksimms at verizon.net (Mark Simms)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 06:10:09 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Question for Access Developers
In-Reply-To: <1384281977.512367689@f434.i.mail.ru>
References: <CAEPJO1hP-vHdiDLLFS542sSJAXAMcRUrXDoSCtmv3cegvwoJGw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1384281977.512367689@f434.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <001a01cee060$ebda2f30$c38e8d90$@net>

This company called Donex did this for Excel !

> >Imagine that some firm emerged with an Access compiler, that skipped
> all the Run-Time stuff and generated an EXE that supported everything that
> >V.1.0 supported everything up to and including Access 2007, but thanks



From greggs at msn.com  Wed Nov 13 05:39:12 2013
From: greggs at msn.com (Gregg Steinbrenner)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 12:39:12 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Hey, Access Developers Discussion And Problem Solvin
Message-ID: <201311131139.rADBdLPw029103@databaseadvisors.com>


     
         
      
    
        
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From BradM at blackforestltd.com  Wed Nov 13 13:25:20 2013
From: BradM at blackforestltd.com (Brad Marks)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 13:25:20 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on Intranet
References: <1971518802.51773198.1383679178722.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C501B2DD3C@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>

All, 

We use Access 2007 to create a large number of reports from data that is
stored in a purchased package system.  This works very nicely.

Recently, we have built a new report that shows "production schedule
information".  Our users really like this new report, the catch is that
it takes about 2-3 minutes to generate it.

Because of this long generation time, I have set up a scheduled task to
run every 15 minutes to generate this new report.  The output is
exported as a PDF file.  One of the pages on our Intranet has a link to
this PDF file.  This approach has worked nicely.  

Our users really like being able to obtain this report instantly via the
Intranet rather than waiting 2-3 minutes when they generate it via the
Access application.

There is one problem, however.  If any user is viewing the PDF file when
the "refresh job" is running, the refresh is not able to place the new
PDF file in the Intranet's folder.

I am curious if anyone else has run into this problem and has ideas on
how to work around it.

Thanks,
Brad


From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 13 15:08:50 2013
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 14:08:50 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Question for Access Developers
In-Reply-To: <1384281977.512367689@f434.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <640393303.59710074.1384376929992.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Shamil and Arthur:

I would also add that a product that would move applications towards creating web based results would be the first choice...less platform dependency. 

PS. Thanks for the link.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:46:17 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll: Question for Access Developers

 Hi Arthur --

Access 1.0 - 2007 compiler, converting mdbs with VBA modules into VB.NET/C# sources, compiling them into DLLs and linking with ?.NET-based runtime engine (EXEs and DLLs) would be useful I suppose.
VBA as it's now - is 'evil' (I mean not VBA language but its unstable for 'legal tricks' engine) - it should be substituted with VB.NET/C#, or interpreted using VB.NET/C# based new engine.
In theory such a compiler compiling into .NET exe can be done (I do not see any technical obstacles) as the current version of VB.NET/C# covers VB6/VBA (including dynamic binding, eval etc.) - actually current versions of VB.NET and C# have much more powerful and very effectively working late binding VB6/VBA have never had. All the MS Access 1.0-2007 functionality can be programmed/interpreted by using VB.NET/C#...

In practice I think Visual Studio LightSwitch ( http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/ff796201.aspx ) is going to occupy the niche of "MS Access 1.0-2007 compiler". So the chances of "MS Access 1.0 - 2007 exe compiler" to appear are very low. I'd be happy if I'd be found wrong with my last statement.

Thank you.

-- Shamil


Tuesday, November 12, 2013 12:05 PM -05:00 from Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>:
>Imagine that some firm emerged with an Access compiler, that skipped all
>the Run-Time stuff and generated an EXE that supported everything that in
>V.1.0 supported everything up to and including Access 2007, but thanks to a
>switch could permanently hide various Access objects such as the Database
>window etc.. Would you be interested in such a product? Or alternatively,
>would you just prefer to move on to another product such as Visual Studio,
>Alpha Anywhere, etc.?
>
>-- 
>Arthur
>-- 
>AccessD mailing list
>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>Website:  http://www.databaseadvisors.com


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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 13 15:19:17 2013
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 14:19:17 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Question for Access Developers
In-Reply-To: <1384281977.512367689@f434.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <407922031.59721603.1384377557450.JavaMail.root@cds002>

PS: When I attempted to install the latest version of Silverlight to my working computer, I had forgotten that I was no longer running a Windows computer. The downloader just directed me to the appropriate Mono version to download and continue.

http://www.go-mono.com/mono-downloads/download.html

This is a nice feature.

Jim  

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:46:17 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll: Question for Access Developers

 Hi Arthur --

Access 1.0 - 2007 compiler, converting mdbs with VBA modules into VB.NET/C# sources, compiling them into DLLs and linking with ?.NET-based runtime engine (EXEs and DLLs) would be useful I suppose.
VBA as it's now - is 'evil' (I mean not VBA language but its unstable for 'legal tricks' engine) - it should be substituted with VB.NET/C#, or interpreted using VB.NET/C# based new engine.
In theory such a compiler compiling into .NET exe can be done (I do not see any technical obstacles) as the current version of VB.NET/C# covers VB6/VBA (including dynamic binding, eval etc.) - actually current versions of VB.NET and C# have much more powerful and very effectively working late binding VB6/VBA have never had. All the MS Access 1.0-2007 functionality can be programmed/interpreted by using VB.NET/C#...

In practice I think Visual Studio LightSwitch ( http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/ff796201.aspx ) is going to occupy the niche of "MS Access 1.0-2007 compiler". So the chances of "MS Access 1.0 - 2007 exe compiler" to appear are very low. I'd be happy if I'd be found wrong with my last statement.

Thank you.

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Tuesday, November 12, 2013 12:05 PM -05:00 from Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>:
>Imagine that some firm emerged with an Access compiler, that skipped all
>the Run-Time stuff and generated an EXE that supported everything that in
>V.1.0 supported everything up to and including Access 2007, but thanks to a
>switch could permanently hide various Access objects such as the Database
>window etc.. Would you be interested in such a product? Or alternatively,
>would you just prefer to move on to another product such as Visual Studio,
>Alpha Anywhere, etc.?
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From Gustav at cactus.dk  Wed Nov 13 15:30:18 2013
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 22:30:18 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on	Intranet
Message-ID: <s283fd92.079@cactus.dk>

Hi Brad

Right after the creation of the PDF in a working folder, you could copy it to the folder users reach.

/gustav

>>> BradM at blackforestltd.com 13-11-13 20:25 >>>
All, 

We use Access 2007 to create a large number of reports from data that is
stored in a purchased package system.  This works very nicely.

Recently, we have built a new report that shows "production schedule
information".  Our users really like this new report, the catch is that
it takes about 2-3 minutes to generate it.

Because of this long generation time, I have set up a scheduled task to
run every 15 minutes to generate this new report.  The output is
exported as a PDF file.  One of the pages on our Intranet has a link to
this PDF file.  This approach has worked nicely.  

Our users really like being able to obtain this report instantly via the
Intranet rather than waiting 2-3 minutes when they generate it via the
Access application.

There is one problem, however.  If any user is viewing the PDF file when
the "refresh job" is running, the refresh is not able to place the new
PDF file in the Intranet's folder.

I am curious if anyone else has run into this problem and has ideas on
how to work around it.

Thanks,
Brad



From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 13 15:57:59 2013
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 14:57:59 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on Intranet
In-Reply-To: <E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C501B2DD3C@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>
Message-ID: <826360465.59768667.1384379879253.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Brad:

My first question would be what type of backend do you have? An MDB just does not cut it when it comes to complex queries...and there is not much you can do about but...

If you have a real SQL DB that runs SPs, MS SQL Express, MS SQL, MySQL, comes to mind you can use them. Many years ago there was a complex report that would take a full hour for the both halves to complete, from a MDB but less than a couple of seconds on an MS SQL DB.

Jim 

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Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 11:25:20 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on Intranet

All, 

We use Access 2007 to create a large number of reports from data that is
stored in a purchased package system.  This works very nicely.

Recently, we have built a new report that shows "production schedule
information".  Our users really like this new report, the catch is that
it takes about 2-3 minutes to generate it.

Because of this long generation time, I have set up a scheduled task to
run every 15 minutes to generate this new report.  The output is
exported as a PDF file.  One of the pages on our Intranet has a link to
this PDF file.  This approach has worked nicely.  

Our users really like being able to obtain this report instantly via the
Intranet rather than waiting 2-3 minutes when they generate it via the
Access application.

There is one problem, however.  If any user is viewing the PDF file when
the "refresh job" is running, the refresh is not able to place the new
PDF file in the Intranet's folder.

I am curious if anyone else has run into this problem and has ideas on
how to work around it.

Thanks,
Brad

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From darren at activebilling.com.au  Wed Nov 13 16:32:25 2013
From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 09:32:25 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on Intranet
In-Reply-To: <E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C501B2DD3C@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>
References: <1971518802.51773198.1383679178722.JavaMail.root@cds002>
	<E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C501B2DD3C@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>
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Hi Brad,
I would recommend something similar to Gustav's approach. 
Don't have users click on the actual result PDF file. Have them open a copy
of the result PDF file.
That way the build and PDF creation process is not interrupted or interfered
with.
Then have a copy routine running in the back ground copying the live result
PDF file to a copy location. 
So basically, point users to that copied location via your intranet page.
You could even use a simple batch file to do the copying and output the
results of the batch file copy to a logfile. 
Many thanks

Darren

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Brad Marks
Sent: Thursday, 14 November 2013 6:25 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on Intranet

All, 

We use Access 2007 to create a large number of reports from data that is
stored in a purchased package system.  This works very nicely.

Recently, we have built a new report that shows "production schedule
information".  Our users really like this new report, the catch is that it
takes about 2-3 minutes to generate it.

Because of this long generation time, I have set up a scheduled task to run
every 15 minutes to generate this new report.  The output is exported as a
PDF file.  One of the pages on our Intranet has a link to this PDF file.
This approach has worked nicely.  

Our users really like being able to obtain this report instantly via the
Intranet rather than waiting 2-3 minutes when they generate it via the
Access application.

There is one problem, however.  If any user is viewing the PDF file when the
"refresh job" is running, the refresh is not able to place the new PDF file
in the Intranet's folder.

I am curious if anyone else has run into this problem and has ideas on how
to work around it.

Thanks,
Brad

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From BradM at blackforestltd.com  Wed Nov 13 19:39:47 2013
From: BradM at blackforestltd.com (Brad Marks)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 19:39:47 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on	Intranet
References: <s283fd92.079@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C50163B568@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>

Gustav,

Thanks for the assistance.

I changed the creation of the PDF to go into a working folder.

I then added a small step to copy the PDF file from the working folder to the folder that the Intranet uses.
This step uses a .bat file (Copy C:\Staging\Test.PDF C:\Intranet\Test.PDF) 

When I run this two-step process, I still run into problems if the PDF file in the Intranet folder is in use when the second step is executed.

I am wondering if there is any Windows Utility that can copy from A.pdf to B.pdf when B.pdf is opened.

Thanks,
Brad 
   


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wed 11/13/2013 3:30 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on	Intranet
 
Hi Brad

Right after the creation of the PDF in a working folder, you could copy it to the folder users reach.

/gustav

>>> BradM at blackforestltd.com 13-11-13 20:25 >>>
All, 

We use Access 2007 to create a large number of reports from data that is
stored in a purchased package system.  This works very nicely.

Recently, we have built a new report that shows "production schedule
information".  Our users really like this new report, the catch is that
it takes about 2-3 minutes to generate it.

Because of this long generation time, I have set up a scheduled task to
run every 15 minutes to generate this new report.  The output is
exported as a PDF file.  One of the pages on our Intranet has a link to
this PDF file.  This approach has worked nicely.  

Our users really like being able to obtain this report instantly via the
Intranet rather than waiting 2-3 minutes when they generate it via the
Access application.

There is one problem, however.  If any user is viewing the PDF file when
the "refresh job" is running, the refresh is not able to place the new
PDF file in the Intranet's folder.

I am curious if anyone else has run into this problem and has ideas on
how to work around it.

Thanks,
Brad


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From BradM at blackforestltd.com  Wed Nov 13 19:45:37 2013
From: BradM at blackforestltd.com (Brad Marks)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 19:45:37 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on Intranet
References: <826360465.59768667.1384379879253.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C50163B569@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>

Jim,

Good question.

Unfortunately, I am working with a purchased package where that back-end database cannot be changed.

The database is Firebird.

I wish that SQL Server was used, but it isn't.

The long running report also has a lot of conditional formatting, so it appears that at least half of the run time is being consumed by report formatting.

Thanks for your help.
Brad 
  


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wed 11/13/2013 3:57 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on Intranet
 
Hi Brad:

My first question would be what type of backend do you have? An MDB just does not cut it when it comes to complex queries...and there is not much you can do about but...

If you have a real SQL DB that runs SPs, MS SQL Express, MS SQL, MySQL, comes to mind you can use them. Many years ago there was a complex report that would take a full hour for the both halves to complete, from a MDB but less than a couple of seconds on an MS SQL DB.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Marks" <BradM at blackforestltd.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 11:25:20 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on Intranet

All, 

We use Access 2007 to create a large number of reports from data that is
stored in a purchased package system.  This works very nicely.

Recently, we have built a new report that shows "production schedule
information".  Our users really like this new report, the catch is that
it takes about 2-3 minutes to generate it.

Because of this long generation time, I have set up a scheduled task to
run every 15 minutes to generate this new report.  The output is
exported as a PDF file.  One of the pages on our Intranet has a link to
this PDF file.  This approach has worked nicely.  

Our users really like being able to obtain this report instantly via the
Intranet rather than waiting 2-3 minutes when they generate it via the
Access application.

There is one problem, however.  If any user is viewing the PDF file when
the "refresh job" is running, the refresh is not able to place the new
PDF file in the Intranet's folder.

I am curious if anyone else has run into this problem and has ideas on
how to work around it.

Thanks,
Brad

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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Wed Nov 13 21:23:22 2013
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 13:23:22 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on Intranet
In-Reply-To: <E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C50163B568@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>
References: <s283fd92.079@cactus.dk>,
	<E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C50163B568@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>
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Shadowcopy  - http://www.runtime.org/shadow-copy.htm

However, that is not the correct solution to your problem.  Your problem is the way the 
Intranet is set up.  

Are you using a prpoer web server, or are you just using URLs to a shared folder on your 
network. It looks like the latter.

If you use a web server to serve the PDF, it will not be locked by a user viewing it.   



On 13 Nov 2013 at 19:39, Brad Marks wrote:

> Gustav,
> 
> Thanks for the assistance.
> 
> I changed the creation of the PDF to go into a working folder.
> 
> I then added a small step to copy the PDF file from the working folder
> to the folder that the Intranet uses. This step uses a .bat file (Copy
> C:\Staging\Test.PDF C:\Intranet\Test.PDF) 
> 
> When I run this two-step process, I still run into problems if the PDF
> file in the Intranet folder is in use when the second step is
> executed.
> 
> I am wondering if there is any Windows Utility that can copy from
> A.pdf to B.pdf when B.pdf is opened.
> 
> Thanks,
> Brad 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Gustav Brock
> Sent: Wed 11/13/2013 3:30 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject:
> Re: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on	Intranet
> 
> Hi Brad
> 
> Right after the creation of the PDF in a working folder, you could
> copy it to the folder users reach.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> >>> BradM at blackforestltd.com 13-11-13 20:25 >>>
> All, 
> 
> We use Access 2007 to create a large number of reports from data that
> is stored in a purchased package system.  This works very nicely.
> 
> Recently, we have built a new report that shows "production schedule
> information".  Our users really like this new report, the catch is
> that it takes about 2-3 minutes to generate it.
> 
> Because of this long generation time, I have set up a scheduled task
> to run every 15 minutes to generate this new report.  The output is
> exported as a PDF file.  One of the pages on our Intranet has a link
> to this PDF file.  This approach has worked nicely.  
> 
> Our users really like being able to obtain this report instantly via
> the Intranet rather than waiting 2-3 minutes when they generate it via
> the Access application.
> 
> There is one problem, however.  If any user is viewing the PDF file
> when the "refresh job" is running, the refresh is not able to place
> the new PDF file in the Intranet's folder.
> 
> I am curious if anyone else has run into this problem and has ideas on
> how to work around it.
> 
> Thanks,
> Brad
> 
> 
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From anita at ddisolutions.com.au  Wed Nov 13 22:02:57 2013
From: anita at ddisolutions.com.au (Anita Smith)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 04:02:57 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Question for Access Developers
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A bit late but - I would love such a compiler. In fact I would give up my cat for one of those (shame I don't have a cat though).

I have never fallen out of love with Access. Except of course the Ribbon. I definitely don't like the Ribbon but I am prepared to put up with it. 

I just love how easy it is to set up a great application using Access. I have two large systems out there using Access/SQL Server/SQL Server Express & Replication.  I still love working on those systems adding new functionality over the years and visiting the customer and seeing my system on all the monitors. 

Anita Smith

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Sent: Wednesday, 13 November 2013 4:06 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Question for Access Developers

Imagine that some firm emerged with an Access compiler, that skipped all the Run-Time stuff and generated an EXE that supported everything that in
V.1.0 supported everything up to and including Access 2007, but thanks to a switch could permanently hide various Access objects such as the Database window etc.. Would you be interested in such a product? Or alternatively, would you just prefer to move on to another product such as Visual Studio, Alpha Anywhere, etc.?

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From anita at ddisolutions.com.au  Wed Nov 13 22:13:42 2013
From: anita at ddisolutions.com.au (Anita Smith)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 04:13:42 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Contract Work
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Coders versus scantily clad Oinkers - eh! 

Not sure I qualify for this challenge. My strength is not in coding and although we humans are related to pigs I think I look more like a giraffe.  I could of course be the ringmaster / town crier / water girl or maybe even the cheer leader - mind you I haven't got anything scantily enough in my wardrobe ;-)

Anita Smith

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I love pigs!  Can I play?  Nothing scanty for my old bones, maybe a clown costume?

Charlotte


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>wrote:

> JWC,
>
> I hereby challenge you to a pig-rodeo in which the fewest seconds to 
> the ground of an unknown pig is the winner. But I want Gustav to enter also.
> Maybe we could call it Coders versus Oinkers, and sell the concept to 
> some sports-tv network. Oh god, I can hardly to wait to see Anita in 
> the ring, and Tina, and Helen, and Susan,. doubtless wearing something 
> scanty. This could be a huge hit: Coders Versus Oinkers! Ya ya ya.
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:33 PM, kismert . <kismert at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks gents, for your interest! Art, I will be getting with you off
> list.
> >
> > -Ken
> > -


From vbacreations at gmail.com  Wed Nov 13 22:39:54 2013
From: vbacreations at gmail.com (William Benson)
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 23:39:54 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Contract Work
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Bob Phillips is WICKED fast at ribbons. So are many orhers. I suggest
farming it out to those who know what the F  they are doing.

Just my two pence.

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On Nov 7, 2013 8:16 PM, "jm.hwsn" <jm.hwsn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Ken,
> I'm with Arthur on this one. The ribbons are time consuming.  Especially
> since you have to start from scratch on each one.... that is if there are
> any differences at all. Each form could require new coding for the ribbon.
>
> I'm in San Antonio, a mere four hour jaunt from their corporate
> headquarters in The Woodlands.  However, I think Arthur should have this
> work. It would be after the new year before I could even think about
> another contract.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 4:36 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Contract Work
>
> Hi Ken,
>
> I could do this, but only remotely, since I live in Canada. But I have done
> lots of work like this over the net. The largest question in your post is
> the bullet about a new ribbon. I can do that, but I need more specs.
>
> Arthur
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Thu Nov 14 01:06:24 2013
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 08:06:24 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on Intranet
Message-ID: <002901cee108$079ed200$16dc7600$@cactus.dk>

Hi Brad

I think Stuart nailed it. Viewing the PDF should not lock it.

/gustav

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Emne: Re: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on Intranet

Gustav,

Thanks for the assistance.

I changed the creation of the PDF to go into a working folder.

I then added a small step to copy the PDF file from the working folder to
the folder that the Intranet uses.
This step uses a .bat file (Copy C:\Staging\Test.PDF C:\Intranet\Test.PDF) 

When I run this two-step process, I still run into problems if the PDF file
in the Intranet folder is in use when the second step is executed.

I am wondering if there is any Windows Utility that can copy from A.pdf to
B.pdf when B.pdf is opened.

Thanks,
Brad 
   


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wed 11/13/2013 3:30 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on
Intranet
 
Hi Brad

Right after the creation of the PDF in a working folder, you could copy it
to the folder users reach.

/gustav

>>> BradM at blackforestltd.com 13-11-13 20:25 >>>
All, 

We use Access 2007 to create a large number of reports from data that is
stored in a purchased package system.  This works very nicely.

Recently, we have built a new report that shows "production schedule
information".  Our users really like this new report, the catch is that it
takes about 2-3 minutes to generate it.

Because of this long generation time, I have set up a scheduled task to run
every 15 minutes to generate this new report.  The output is exported as a
PDF file.  One of the pages on our Intranet has a link to this PDF file.
This approach has worked nicely.  

Our users really like being able to obtain this report instantly via the
Intranet rather than waiting 2-3 minutes when they generate it via the
Access application.

There is one problem, however.  If any user is viewing the PDF file when the
"refresh job" is running, the refresh is not able to place the new PDF file
in the Intranet's folder.

I am curious if anyone else has run into this problem and has ideas on how
to work around it.

Thanks,
Brad




From BradM at blackforestltd.com  Thu Nov 14 06:42:00 2013
From: BradM at blackforestltd.com (Brad Marks)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 06:42:00 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on Intranet
References: <s283fd92.079@cactus.dk>,
	<E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C50163B568@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>
	<5284422A.4807.E6BB3A0@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C50163B56A@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>

Stuart,

Thanks for the help, I appreciate it.

You are right about the little "Intranet" that I have set up.  

I work part time for a small firm with a very small IT budget.  We do not have a real web server.
Perhaps down the road when there is more time and more money available, this will change.

For the short term, I am forced to simply point URLs to a shared folder on the file server.

Thanks again,
Brad  


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Stuart McLachlan
Sent: Wed 11/13/2013 9:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on Intranet
 
Shadowcopy  - http://www.runtime.org/shadow-copy.htm

However, that is not the correct solution to your problem.  Your problem is the way the 
Intranet is set up.  

Are you using a prpoer web server, or are you just using URLs to a shared folder on your 
network. It looks like the latter.

If you use a web server to serve the PDF, it will not be locked by a user viewing it.   



On 13 Nov 2013 at 19:39, Brad Marks wrote:

> Gustav,
> 
> Thanks for the assistance.
> 
> I changed the creation of the PDF to go into a working folder.
> 
> I then added a small step to copy the PDF file from the working folder
> to the folder that the Intranet uses. This step uses a .bat file (Copy
> C:\Staging\Test.PDF C:\Intranet\Test.PDF) 
> 
> When I run this two-step process, I still run into problems if the PDF
> file in the Intranet folder is in use when the second step is
> executed.
> 
> I am wondering if there is any Windows Utility that can copy from
> A.pdf to B.pdf when B.pdf is opened.
> 
> Thanks,
> Brad 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Gustav Brock
> Sent: Wed 11/13/2013 3:30 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject:
> Re: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on	Intranet
> 
> Hi Brad
> 
> Right after the creation of the PDF in a working folder, you could
> copy it to the folder users reach.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> >>> BradM at blackforestltd.com 13-11-13 20:25 >>>
> All, 
> 
> We use Access 2007 to create a large number of reports from data that
> is stored in a purchased package system.  This works very nicely.
> 
> Recently, we have built a new report that shows "production schedule
> information".  Our users really like this new report, the catch is
> that it takes about 2-3 minutes to generate it.
> 
> Because of this long generation time, I have set up a scheduled task
> to run every 15 minutes to generate this new report.  The output is
> exported as a PDF file.  One of the pages on our Intranet has a link
> to this PDF file.  This approach has worked nicely.  
> 
> Our users really like being able to obtain this report instantly via
> the Intranet rather than waiting 2-3 minutes when they generate it via
> the Access application.
> 
> There is one problem, however.  If any user is viewing the PDF file
> when the "refresh job" is running, the refresh is not able to place
> the new PDF file in the Intranet's folder.
> 
> I am curious if anyone else has run into this problem and has ideas on
> how to work around it.
> 
> Thanks,
> Brad
> 
> 
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From Lambert.Heenan at aig.com  Thu Nov 14 08:11:18 2013
From: Lambert.Heenan at aig.com (Heenan, Lambert)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 09:11:18 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on	Intranet
In-Reply-To: <E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C50163B568@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>
References: <s283fd92.079@cactus.dk>
	<E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C50163B568@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>
Message-ID: <F5B2E2ECEE84F142883A2E6DCA867F980218728C42@LIVP3MMBX10.mail.aig.net>

I have an application that calls for many users to be able to access many different stored documents.

To keep them from stepping on each other's toes, when they call up a document the application places a copy of the document in a defined folder on their home drive and then when the database shuts down any docs in that folder are deleted.

So they never get to look at the originals.

Lambert

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Brad Marks
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 8:40 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on Intranet

Gustav,

Thanks for the assistance.

I changed the creation of the PDF to go into a working folder.

I then added a small step to copy the PDF file from the working folder to the folder that the Intranet uses.
This step uses a .bat file (Copy C:\Staging\Test.PDF C:\Intranet\Test.PDF) 

When I run this two-step process, I still run into problems if the PDF file in the Intranet folder is in use when the second step is executed.

I am wondering if there is any Windows Utility that can copy from A.pdf to B.pdf when B.pdf is opened.

Thanks,
Brad 
   


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Gustav Brock
Sent: Wed 11/13/2013 3:30 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on	Intranet
 
Hi Brad

Right after the creation of the PDF in a working folder, you could copy it to the folder users reach.

/gustav

>>> BradM at blackforestltd.com 13-11-13 20:25 >>>
All, 

We use Access 2007 to create a large number of reports from data that is stored in a purchased package system.  This works very nicely.

Recently, we have built a new report that shows "production schedule information".  Our users really like this new report, the catch is that it takes about 2-3 minutes to generate it.

Because of this long generation time, I have set up a scheduled task to run every 15 minutes to generate this new report.  The output is exported as a PDF file.  One of the pages on our Intranet has a link to this PDF file.  This approach has worked nicely.  

Our users really like being able to obtain this report instantly via the Intranet rather than waiting 2-3 minutes when they generate it via the Access application.

There is one problem, however.  If any user is viewing the PDF file when the "refresh job" is running, the refresh is not able to place the new PDF file in the Intranet's folder.

I am curious if anyone else has run into this problem and has ideas on how to work around it.

Thanks,
Brad


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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu Nov 14 10:19:04 2013
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 11:19:04 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Contract Work
In-Reply-To: <CAGuQ9V6CJWJomDPDmgRGLor_ZdkzGwcvrvFV4oyDXwQ+uViiCw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMEw5yVJXeKTDWy3iq+e7Bp46qrkx1TChLt=yW8oS7018zqjjQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1jOeJLqX0d8f_x2uZHA6UyGf+83xe=wCLGosRNnY-22FQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<32109BE0D464487296BB1081C424A332@HomePC>
	<CAGuQ9V6CJWJomDPDmgRGLor_ZdkzGwcvrvFV4oyDXwQ+uViiCw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1gNBeAqpHiEGQPMmuyj2=mYo8scVi18dGA0JwgHF2WK7Q@mail.gmail.com>

Anita,

There's absolutely Nothing wrong with girls who resemble giraffes! Although
I am not Japanese, I do love a long-necked girl. (Perhaps that reference
requires a tad of explanation: Japanese men traditionally have considered
the most erogenous zone of a woman to be her neck, and the Bermuda triangle
secondary; oh God, that too requires an explanation, so OK... nipple nipple
nether = Bermuda Triangle; sailors who venture there may be lost forever;
but that is a risky proposition. Much safer to stay with the Japanese
tradition and focus upon the neck.)

Just an FYI, and a survival guide for aching men.

Arthur


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Thu Nov 14 10:25:07 2013
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 11:25:07 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Question for Access Developers
In-Reply-To: <0B4AA61FDEF597449F7D28C41E786D9653894D@DDI-DC1.DDI.local>
References: <CAEPJO1hP-vHdiDLLFS542sSJAXAMcRUrXDoSCtmv3cegvwoJGw@mail.gmail.com>
	<0B4AA61FDEF597449F7D28C41E786D9653894D@DDI-DC1.DDI.local>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1gTKVX=OOgg5Z9c_T_+OHDsBb_7Q9EUqdzer_aK4Dd6iA@mail.gmail.com>

I have written this more than once, and shall restate it again. If you are
an Access developer looking for a path toward developing and deploying apps
that work on smart phones, tablets and traditional web browsers, and also
standard desktop apps, please look at AlphaSoftware.com. Download the
trial, run the demo-videos, and fasten your seatbelts. Prepare to be
astounded. The folks at Alpha have built some awesome technology.

A.


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Anita Smith <anita at ddisolutions.com.au>wrote:

> A bit late but - I would love such a compiler. In fact I would give up my
> cat for one of those (shame I don't have a cat though).
>
> I have never fallen out of love with Access. Except of course the Ribbon.
> I definitely don't like the Ribbon but I am prepared to put up with it.
>
> I just love how easy it is to set up a great application using Access. I
> have two large systems out there using Access/SQL Server/SQL Server Express
> & Replication.  I still love working on those systems adding new
> functionality over the years and visiting the customer and seeing my system
> on all the monitors.
>
> Anita Smith
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:
> accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
> Sent: Wednesday, 13 November 2013 4:06 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Question for Access Developers
>
> Imagine that some firm emerged with an Access compiler, that skipped all
> the Run-Time stuff and generated an EXE that supported everything that in
> V.1.0 supported everything up to and including Access 2007, but thanks to
> a switch could permanently hide various Access objects such as the Database
> window etc.. Would you be interested in such a product? Or alternatively,
> would you just prefer to move on to another product such as Visual Studio,
> Alpha Anywhere, etc.?
>
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Nov 14 10:26:02 2013
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 09:26:02 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on Intranet
In-Reply-To: <E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C50163B569@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>
Message-ID: <1000093377.60516718.1384446362238.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Brad:

It seems that Gustav has the best idea on how to solve it. 

Here is one possible solution: As to copying one file over another, at the time of creation, you could just create a file name from the current date and time, put together as a string. It would be unlikely that a two identical named files would be created and if there was a name collision produced then the system would just pause and try again. It would be easy to find the newest file if needed as it would sort in order. And of course older copies could be just as easily identified and purged.

Just a thought.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Marks" <BradM at blackforestltd.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:45:37 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on Intranet

Jim,

Good question.

Unfortunately, I am working with a purchased package where that back-end database cannot be changed.

The database is Firebird.

I wish that SQL Server was used, but it isn't.

The long running report also has a lot of conditional formatting, so it appears that at least half of the run time is being consumed by report formatting.

Thanks for your help.
Brad 

From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Nov 14 10:27:11 2013
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 09:27:11 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on Intranet
In-Reply-To: <5284422A.4807.E6BB3A0@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <217658413.60518629.1384446431529.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Excellent suggestion.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stuart McLachlan" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 7:23:22 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on Intranet

Shadowcopy  - http://www.runtime.org/shadow-copy.htm

However, that is not the correct solution to your problem.  Your problem is the way the 
Intranet is set up.  

Are you using a prpoer web server, or are you just using URLs to a shared folder on your 
network. It looks like the latter.

If you use a web server to serve the PDF, it will not be locked by a user viewing it.   



On 13 Nov 2013 at 19:39, Brad Marks wrote:

> Gustav,
> 
> Thanks for the assistance.
> 
> I changed the creation of the PDF to go into a working folder.
> 
> I then added a small step to copy the PDF file from the working folder
> to the folder that the Intranet uses. This step uses a .bat file (Copy
> C:\Staging\Test.PDF C:\Intranet\Test.PDF) 
> 
> When I run this two-step process, I still run into problems if the PDF
> file in the Intranet folder is in use when the second step is
> executed.
> 
> I am wondering if there is any Windows Utility that can copy from
> A.pdf to B.pdf when B.pdf is opened.
> 
> Thanks,
> Brad 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Gustav Brock
> Sent: Wed 11/13/2013 3:30 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject:
> Re: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on	Intranet
> 
> Hi Brad
> 
> Right after the creation of the PDF in a working folder, you could
> copy it to the folder users reach.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> >>> BradM at blackforestltd.com 13-11-13 20:25 >>>
> All, 
> 
> We use Access 2007 to create a large number of reports from data that
> is stored in a purchased package system.  This works very nicely.
> 
> Recently, we have built a new report that shows "production schedule
> information".  Our users really like this new report, the catch is
> that it takes about 2-3 minutes to generate it.
> 
> Because of this long generation time, I have set up a scheduled task
> to run every 15 minutes to generate this new report.  The output is
> exported as a PDF file.  One of the pages on our Intranet has a link
> to this PDF file.  This approach has worked nicely.  
> 
> Our users really like being able to obtain this report instantly via
> the Intranet rather than waiting 2-3 minutes when they generate it via
> the Access application.
> 
> There is one problem, however.  If any user is viewing the PDF file
> when the "refresh job" is running, the refresh is not able to place
> the new PDF file in the Intranet's folder.
> 
> I am curious if anyone else has run into this problem and has ideas on
> how to work around it.
> 
> Thanks,
> Brad
> 
> 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Nov 14 15:47:25 2013
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 07:47:25 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on Intranet
In-Reply-To: <E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C50163B56A@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>
References: <s283fd92.079@cactus.dk>,
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Download XAMP or WAMPServer  and instal it on the file server   It's virtually a one click 
operation and they are not resource hungry applications on a small intranet..I use the latter 
on my development laptop for designing websites 

Move the files in C:\INtranet to  your website directory 

Voila!  just a few minutes work.

-- 
Stuart

On 14 Nov 2013 at 6:42, Brad Marks wrote:

> Stuart,
> 
> Thanks for the help, I appreciate it.
> 
> You are right about the little "Intranet" that I have set up.  
> 
> I work part time for a small firm with a very small IT budget.  We do
> not have a real web server. Perhaps down the road when there is more
> time and more money available, this will change.
> 
> For the short term, I am forced to simply point URLs to a shared
> folder on the file server.
> 
> Thanks again,
> Brad  
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Stuart
> McLachlan Sent: Wed 11/13/2013 9:23 PM To: Access Developers
> discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Problems with
> Refreshing Access Report on Intranet
> 
> Shadowcopy  - http://www.runtime.org/shadow-copy.htm
> 
> However, that is not the correct solution to your problem.  Your
> problem is the way the Intranet is set up.  
> 
> Are you using a prpoer web server, or are you just using URLs to a
> shared folder on your network. It looks like the latter.
> 
> If you use a web server to serve the PDF, it will not be locked by a
> user viewing it.   
> 
> 
> 
> On 13 Nov 2013 at 19:39, Brad Marks wrote:
> 
> > Gustav,
> > 
> > Thanks for the assistance.
> > 
> > I changed the creation of the PDF to go into a working folder.
> > 
> > I then added a small step to copy the PDF file from the working
> > folder to the folder that the Intranet uses. This step uses a .bat
> > file (Copy C:\Staging\Test.PDF C:\Intranet\Test.PDF) 
> > 
> > When I run this two-step process, I still run into problems if the
> > PDF file in the Intranet folder is in use when the second step is
> > executed.
> > 
> > I am wondering if there is any Windows Utility that can copy from
> > A.pdf to B.pdf when B.pdf is opened.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Brad 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Gustav Brock
> > Sent: Wed 11/13/2013 3:30 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report
> > on	Intranet
> > 
> > Hi Brad
> > 
> > Right after the creation of the PDF in a working folder, you could
> > copy it to the folder users reach.
> > 
> > /gustav
> > 
> > >>> BradM at blackforestltd.com 13-11-13 20:25 >>>
> > All, 
> > 
> > We use Access 2007 to create a large number of reports from data
> > that is stored in a purchased package system.  This works very
> > nicely.
> > 
> > Recently, we have built a new report that shows "production schedule
> > information".  Our users really like this new report, the catch is
> > that it takes about 2-3 minutes to generate it.
> > 
> > Because of this long generation time, I have set up a scheduled task
> > to run every 15 minutes to generate this new report.  The output is
> > exported as a PDF file.  One of the pages on our Intranet has a link
> > to this PDF file.  This approach has worked nicely.  
> > 
> > Our users really like being able to obtain this report instantly via
> > the Intranet rather than waiting 2-3 minutes when they generate it
> > via the Access application.
> > 
> > There is one problem, however.  If any user is viewing the PDF file
> > when the "refresh job" is running, the refresh is not able to place
> > the new PDF file in the Intranet's folder.
> > 
> > I am curious if anyone else has run into this problem and has ideas
> > on how to work around it.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Brad
> > 
> > 
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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Thu Nov 14 15:50:37 2013
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 07:50:37 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on Intranet
In-Reply-To: <1000093377.60516718.1384446362238.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C50163B569@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>,
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ISTM that Gustav has re-invented the web server :-)

On 14 Nov 2013 at 9:26, Jim Lawrence wrote:

> Hi Brad:
> 
> It seems that Gustav has the best idea on how to solve it. 
> 


From kismert at gmail.com  Thu Nov 14 16:56:33 2013
From: kismert at gmail.com (kismert .)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 16:56:33 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Contract Work
Message-ID: <CAMEw5yU020Xx0hX-9LAZGGOzD_vyb345OUgNJLJVpYnjEhuSZQ@mail.gmail.com>

Don't throw down the 'scanty' challenge! I'll show up wearing the 'Borat
sling', and everyone's eyesight will be damaged for a month!

-Ken


> I love pigs!  Can I play?  Nothing scanty for my old bones, maybe a clown
> costume?
>
> Charlotte
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > JWC,
> >
> > I hereby challenge you to a pig-rodeo in which the fewest seconds to the
> > ground of an unknown pig is the winner. But I want Gustav to enter also.
> > Maybe we could call it Coders versus Oinkers, and sell the concept to
> some
> > sports-tv network. Oh god, I can hardly to wait to see Anita in the ring,
> > and Tina, and Helen, and Susan,. doubtless wearing something scanty. This
> > could be a huge hit: Coders Versus Oinkers! Ya ya ya.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 12:33 PM, kismert . <kismert at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks gents, for your interest! Art, I will be getting with you off
> > list.
> > >
> > > -Ken
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>

From anita at ddisolutions.com.au  Thu Nov 14 17:00:20 2013
From: anita at ddisolutions.com.au (Anita Smith)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 23:00:20 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Question for Access Developers
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gTKVX=OOgg5Z9c_T_+OHDsBb_7Q9EUqdzer_aK4Dd6iA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1hP-vHdiDLLFS542sSJAXAMcRUrXDoSCtmv3cegvwoJGw@mail.gmail.com>
	<0B4AA61FDEF597449F7D28C41E786D9653894D@DDI-DC1.DDI.local>
	<CAEPJO1gTKVX=OOgg5Z9c_T_+OHDsBb_7Q9EUqdzer_aK4Dd6iA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0B4AA61FDEF597449F7D28C41E786D96538B7F@DDI-DC1.DDI.local>

Thanks for the info Arthur - I will check that out over the weekend.

Anita Smith

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Friday, 15 November 2013 3:25 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll: Question for Access Developers

I have written this more than once, and shall restate it again. If you are an Access developer looking for a path toward developing and deploying apps that work on smart phones, tablets and traditional web browsers, and also standard desktop apps, please look at AlphaSoftware.com. Download the trial, run the demo-videos, and fasten your seatbelts. Prepare to be astounded. The folks at Alpha have built some awesome technology.

A.


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Anita Smith <anita at ddisolutions.com.au>wrote:

> A bit late but - I would love such a compiler. In fact I would give up 
> my cat for one of those (shame I don't have a cat though).
>
> I have never fallen out of love with Access. Except of course the Ribbon.
> I definitely don't like the Ribbon but I am prepared to put up with it.
>
> I just love how easy it is to set up a great application using Access. 
> I have two large systems out there using Access/SQL Server/SQL Server 
> Express & Replication.  I still love working on those systems adding 
> new functionality over the years and visiting the customer and seeing 
> my system on all the monitors.
>
> Anita Smith
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:
> accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
> Sent: Wednesday, 13 November 2013 4:06 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Poll: Question for Access Developers
>
> Imagine that some firm emerged with an Access compiler, that skipped 
> all the Run-Time stuff and generated an EXE that supported everything 
> that in
> V.1.0 supported everything up to and including Access 2007, but thanks 
> to a switch could permanently hide various Access objects such as the 
> Database window etc.. Would you be interested in such a product? Or 
> alternatively, would you just prefer to move on to another product 
> such as Visual Studio, Alpha Anywhere, etc.?
>
> --
> Arthur
> --
>
>
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From charlotte.foust at gmail.com  Thu Nov 14 17:21:42 2013
From: charlotte.foust at gmail.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 15:21:42 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Contract Work
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gNBeAqpHiEGQPMmuyj2=mYo8scVi18dGA0JwgHF2WK7Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMEw5yVJXeKTDWy3iq+e7Bp46qrkx1TChLt=yW8oS7018zqjjQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1jOeJLqX0d8f_x2uZHA6UyGf+83xe=wCLGosRNnY-22FQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<32109BE0D464487296BB1081C424A332@HomePC>
	<CAGuQ9V6CJWJomDPDmgRGLor_ZdkzGwcvrvFV4oyDXwQ+uViiCw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1gNBeAqpHiEGQPMmuyj2=mYo8scVi18dGA0JwgHF2WK7Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAH+Met8Qq43bLxEpsSXRvmGt8DxC3eR4tv7kMCvn2JnX8Xya1g@mail.gmail.com>

Sounds like more of a risque proposition to me, Arthur.

Charlotte


On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>wrote:

> Anita,
>
> There's absolutely Nothing wrong with girls who resemble giraffes! Although
> I am not Japanese, I do love a long-necked girl. (Perhaps that reference
> requires a tad of explanation: Japanese men traditionally have considered
> the most erogenous zone of a woman to be her neck, and the Bermuda triangle
> secondary; oh God, that too requires an explanation, so OK... nipple nipple
> nether = Bermuda Triangle; sailors who venture there may be lost forever;
> but that is a risky proposition. Much safer to stay with the Japanese
> tradition and focus upon the neck.)
>
> Just an FYI, and a survival guide for aching men.
>
> Arthur
>
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From anita at ddisolutions.com.au  Thu Nov 14 18:19:19 2013
From: anita at ddisolutions.com.au (Anita Smith)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 00:19:19 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Contract Work
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1gNBeAqpHiEGQPMmuyj2=mYo8scVi18dGA0JwgHF2WK7Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMEw5yVJXeKTDWy3iq+e7Bp46qrkx1TChLt=yW8oS7018zqjjQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1jOeJLqX0d8f_x2uZHA6UyGf+83xe=wCLGosRNnY-22FQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<32109BE0D464487296BB1081C424A332@HomePC>
	<CAGuQ9V6CJWJomDPDmgRGLor_ZdkzGwcvrvFV4oyDXwQ+uViiCw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1gNBeAqpHiEGQPMmuyj2=mYo8scVi18dGA0JwgHF2WK7Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0B4AA61FDEF597449F7D28C41E786D96538C08@DDI-DC1.DDI.local>

Arthur,
Righty-o. 

Now, how we got from contract work to Bermuda is a mystery of ginormous proportions. A mystery not seen since the big bang.

I'm just going to have to stick my neck out here ... (OH OK  I admit, that was lame) ... but according to the survival guide for pesky ladies, the Bermuda triangle is a no go zone until further research establishes the long term effects of mulling around there.

Anita Smith

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Friday, 15 November 2013 3:19 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Contract Work

Anita,

There's absolutely Nothing wrong with girls who resemble giraffes! Although I am not Japanese, I do love a long-necked girl. (Perhaps that reference requires a tad of explanation: Japanese men traditionally have considered the most erogenous zone of a woman to be her neck, and the Bermuda triangle secondary; oh God, that too requires an explanation, so OK... nipple nipple nether = Bermuda Triangle; sailors who venture there may be lost forever; but that is a risky proposition. Much safer to stay with the Japanese tradition and focus upon the neck.)

Just an FYI, and a survival guide for aching men.

Arthur

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From anita at ddisolutions.com.au  Thu Nov 14 19:29:48 2013
From: anita at ddisolutions.com.au (Anita Smith)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 01:29:48 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humor
Message-ID: <0B4AA61FDEF597449F7D28C41E786D96538C44@DDI-DC1.DDI.local>

YAY! It's Friday here in Australia and I'm celebrating by watching one of my favourite videos. I think other nerds may like this one.

http://youtu.be/fk6Q-SmLVQ4


Anita Smith


From marksimms at verizon.net  Thu Nov 14 21:43:21 2013
From: marksimms at verizon.net (Mark Simms)
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 22:43:21 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Contract Work
In-Reply-To: <CAGuQ9V6CJWJomDPDmgRGLor_ZdkzGwcvrvFV4oyDXwQ+uViiCw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMEw5yVJXeKTDWy3iq+e7Bp46qrkx1TChLt=yW8oS7018zqjjQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1jOeJLqX0d8f_x2uZHA6UyGf+83xe=wCLGosRNnY-22FQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<32109BE0D464487296BB1081C424A332@HomePC>
	<CAGuQ9V6CJWJomDPDmgRGLor_ZdkzGwcvrvFV4oyDXwQ+uViiCw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <02ff01cee1b4$d4b35b10$7e1a1130$@net>

If you understand and employe Albert Kallal's fine Ribbon Class...
Ribbons are easy.
Otherwise: FUGGETABOUT IT. You are asking for trouble.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-
> bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Benson
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 11:40 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Contract Work
>
> Bob Phillips is WICKED fast at ribbons. So are many orhers. I suggest
> farming it out to those who know what the F  they are doing.
>
> Just my two pence.
>
> .......... .......... .......... .......... ..........
> Sent from my Android device
> with automatic features such as:
>
>      *   multiple letter transposition
>      *   unagreed to word substitutions
>      *   no bothersome spell checking
>      *   reinsertion of leftover text
>           after it's been deleted
> .......... .......... .......... .......... ..........
> On Nov 7, 2013 8:16 PM, "jm.hwsn" <jm.hwsn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Ken,
> > I'm with Arthur on this one. The ribbons are time consuming.
> Especially
> > since you have to start from scratch on each one.... that is if there
> are
> > any differences at all. Each form could require new coding for the
> ribbon.
> >
> > I'm in San Antonio, a mere four hour jaunt from their corporate
> > headquarters in The Woodlands.  However, I think Arthur should have
> this
> > work. It would be after the new year before I could even think about
> > another contract.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller
> > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 4:36 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Contract Work
> >
> > Hi Ken,
> >
> > I could do this, but only remotely, since I live in Canada. But I
> have done
> > lots of work like this over the net. The largest question in your
> post is
> > the bullet about a new ribbon. I can do that, but I need more specs.
> >
> > Arthur
> > --
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > --
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> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
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> >
> --
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From gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov 15 01:17:34 2013
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 08:17:34 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humor
Message-ID: <002201cee1d2$c1996380$44cc2a80$@cactus.dk>

Hi Anita

Great! If just all idiots could be extinguished this way ...

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Anita Smith
Sendt: 15. november 2013 02:30
Til: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Emne: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humor

YAY! It's Friday here in Australia and I'm celebrating by watching one of my
favourite videos. I think other nerds may like this one.

http://youtu.be/fk6Q-SmLVQ4


Anita Smith 



From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Fri Nov 15 09:11:16 2013
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 10:11:16 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Contract Work
In-Reply-To: <02ff01cee1b4$d4b35b10$7e1a1130$@net>
References: <CAMEw5yVJXeKTDWy3iq+e7Bp46qrkx1TChLt=yW8oS7018zqjjQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1jOeJLqX0d8f_x2uZHA6UyGf+83xe=wCLGosRNnY-22FQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<32109BE0D464487296BB1081C424A332@HomePC>
	<CAGuQ9V6CJWJomDPDmgRGLor_ZdkzGwcvrvFV4oyDXwQ+uViiCw@mail.gmail.com>
	<02ff01cee1b4$d4b35b10$7e1a1130$@net>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1j3BzQTiguHc2qMzXKqCCBh+=0o5BxR4be_y8jogGGKMA@mail.gmail.com>

Wow it seems that I have struck a gold mine with my off-side comments. But
ok. I learned early on never to back down. Better to face the opponent and
lose. Defeat is the high path; cowardice is the low path.

And thus, I shall happily plunge into the Bermuda Traingle, and Dam the
Torpedoes. LOL. If I have issues, atop the list surely would be Mixed
Mataphors. I wonder whether that;s in in current DSM.


On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:43 PM, Mark Simms <marksimms at verizon.net> wrote:

> If you understand and employe Albert Kallal's fine Ribbon Class...
> Ribbons are easy.
> Otherwise: FUGGETABOUT IT. You are asking for trouble.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-
> > bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Benson
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 11:40 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Contract Work
> >
> > Bob Phillips is WICKED fast at ribbons. So are many orhers. I suggest
> > farming it out to those who know what the F  they are doing.
> >
> > Just my two pence.
> >
> > .......... .......... .......... .......... ..........
> > Sent from my Android device
> > with automatic features such as:
> >
> >      *   multiple letter transposition
> >      *   unagreed to word substitutions
> >      *   no bothersome spell checking
> >      *   reinsertion of leftover text
> >           after it's been deleted
> > .......... .......... .......... .......... ..........
> > On Nov 7, 2013 8:16 PM, "jm.hwsn" <jm.hwsn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Ken,
> > > I'm with Arthur on this one. The ribbons are time consuming.
> > Especially
> > > since you have to start from scratch on each one.... that is if there
> > are
> > > any differences at all. Each form could require new coding for the
> > ribbon.
> > >
> > > I'm in San Antonio, a mere four hour jaunt from their corporate
> > > headquarters in The Woodlands.  However, I think Arthur should have
> > this
> > > work. It would be after the new year before I could even think about
> > > another contract.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Fuller
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 4:36 PM
> > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Contract Work
> > >
> > > Hi Ken,
> > >
> > > I could do this, but only remotely, since I live in Canada. But I
> > have done
> > > lots of work like this over the net. The largest question in your
> > post is
> > > the bullet about a new ribbon. I can do that, but I need more specs.
> > >
> > > Arthur
> > > --
> > > AccessD mailing list
> > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > > --
> > > AccessD mailing list
> > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> > >
> > --
> > AccessD mailing list
> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
> --
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> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>



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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Nov 15 10:40:51 2013
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 09:40:51 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humor
In-Reply-To: <0B4AA61FDEF597449F7D28C41E786D96538C44@DDI-DC1.DDI.local>
Message-ID: <1181186934.61751775.1384533651663.JavaMail.root@cds002>

:-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anita Smith" <anita at ddisolutions.com.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:29:48 PM
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humor

YAY! It's Friday here in Australia and I'm celebrating by watching one of my favourite videos. I think other nerds may like this one.

http://youtu.be/fk6Q-SmLVQ4


Anita Smith

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Nov 15 11:19:40 2013
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 10:19:40 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humor
In-Reply-To: <002201cee1d2$c1996380$44cc2a80$@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <226905958.61809132.1384535980406.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Gustav:

But what about your client base? ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:17:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humor

Hi Anita

Great! If just all idiots could be extinguished this way ...

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Anita Smith
Sendt: 15. november 2013 02:30
Til: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Emne: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humor

YAY! It's Friday here in Australia and I'm celebrating by watching one of my
favourite videos. I think other nerds may like this one.

http://youtu.be/fk6Q-SmLVQ4


Anita Smith 


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From davidalangibson2010 at gmail.com  Fri Nov 15 11:24:36 2013
From: davidalangibson2010 at gmail.com (David A Gibson)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 11:24:36 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humor
In-Reply-To: <226905958.61809132.1384535980406.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <002201cee1d2$c1996380$44cc2a80$@cactus.dk>
	<226905958.61809132.1384535980406.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <04b501cee227$8ec52610$ac4f7230$@gmail.com>


Eternal Life

A guy is walking along a Florida beach when he comes across a lamp
partially buried in the sand. He picks up the lamp and gives it a rub.
A genie appears and tells him he has been granted one wish.

The guy thinks for a moment and says, "I want to live forever."

"Sorry," said the genie, "I'm not allowed to grant eternal life."

"OK, then, I want to die after the Democrats balance the budget and eliminate the debt."

"You crafty little bastard," said the genie. . .


David Gibson



From RRANTHON at sentara.com  Fri Nov 15 11:28:54 2013
From: RRANTHON at sentara.com (RANDALL R ANTHONY)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 17:28:54 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humor
In-Reply-To: <04b501cee227$8ec52610$ac4f7230$@gmail.com>
References: <002201cee1d2$c1996380$44cc2a80$@cactus.dk>
	<226905958.61809132.1384535980406.JavaMail.root@cds002>
	<04b501cee227$8ec52610$ac4f7230$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201311151729.rAFHT4JA001898@databaseadvisors.com>

LOL!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David A Gibson
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 12:25 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humor


Eternal Life

A guy is walking along a Florida beach when he comes across a lamp partially buried in the sand. He picks up the lamp and gives it a rub.
A genie appears and tells him he has been granted one wish.

The guy thinks for a moment and says, "I want to live forever."

"Sorry," said the genie, "I'm not allowed to grant eternal life."

"OK, then, I want to die after the Democrats balance the budget and eliminate the debt."

"You crafty little bastard," said the genie. . .


David Gibson


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From kost36 at otenet.gr  Fri Nov 15 12:05:58 2013
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 20:05:58 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1j3BzQTiguHc2qMzXKqCCBh+=0o5BxR4be_y8jogGGKMA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMEw5yVJXeKTDWy3iq+e7Bp46qrkx1TChLt=yW8oS7018zqjjQ@mail.gmail.com><CAEPJO1jOeJLqX0d8f_x2uZHA6UyGf+83xe=wCLGosRNnY-22FQ@mail.gmail.com><32109BE0D464487296BB1081C424A332@HomePC><CAGuQ9V6CJWJomDPDmgRGLor_ZdkzGwcvrvFV4oyDXwQ+uViiCw@mail.gmail.com><02ff01cee1b4$d4b35b10$7e1a1130$@net>
	<CAEPJO1j3BzQTiguHc2qMzXKqCCBh+=0o5BxR4be_y8jogGGKMA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <79CD44C8BBAF409F9BCD4D831F0468B6@kost36>

hi to all,
I am working on a mdb file (office 2010) under linked tables from another 
database which is installed on a home network (workgroup 192.168.0.xx)
For quick searching on basics fields (name, year born etc) every user on the 
network is working with a deigned form including an unbound list box

on a text unbound
Private Sub text_box_Change()
Me![list2].RowSource = "SELECT [AM], [Last_name], [First_name], 
[Father_name], [year_born] FROM [q_start_list] WHERE [Last_first_name]like 
'" & Me![text_box].Text & "*'"
End Sub

on a button
Private Sub list2_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
    Dim stDocName As String
    Dim stLinkCriteria As String
    stDocName = "MT_basic_char"
    stLinkCriteria = "[AM] = " & Me!list2.Value & ""
    DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria
End Sub

what it happens... if only one person is connected working on the listbox 
there is no problem at all while the response returns on the spot
But when more than one try to work on the same listbox the response is 
ridiculously slow...

Is there any idea about which is the reason it happens?

thank?s in advance
/kostas 


From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov 15 12:42:15 2013
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 19:42:15 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humor
Message-ID: <s2867926.028@cactus.dk>

Hi Jim

Ha! I'm so old that the idiots among these are gone. We only have clients who play nice; if not, they are thrown into the sea (we have no rivers here).

/gustav

>>> accessd at shaw.ca 15-11-13 18:19 >>>
Hi Gustav:

But what about your client base? ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:17:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humor

Hi Anita

Great! If just all idiots could be extinguished this way ...

/gustav

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Anita Smith
Sendt: 15. november 2013 02:30
Til: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Emne: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humor

YAY! It's Friday here in Australia and I'm celebrating by watching one of my
favourite videos. I think other nerds may like this one.

http://youtu.be/fk6Q-SmLVQ4


Anita Smith 



From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Nov 15 14:41:46 2013
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 13:41:46 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humor
In-Reply-To: <s2867926.028@cactus.dk>
Message-ID: <1648724302.62072238.1384548106047.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Gustav:

Definitely, a good clean client divorce, is very appropriate at times.

Jim  

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 10:42:15 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humor

Hi Jim

Ha! I'm so old that the idiots among these are gone. We only have clients who play nice; if not, they are thrown into the sea (we have no rivers here).

/gustav

>>> accessd at shaw.ca 15-11-13 18:19 >>>
Hi Gustav:

But what about your client base? ;-)

Jim

From BradM at blackforestltd.com  Fri Nov 15 15:44:27 2013
From: BradM at blackforestltd.com (Brad Marks)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 15:44:27 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Use of a Variable for Setting Report Properties
References: <s283fd92.079@cactus.dk>,
	<E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C50163B56A@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>
	<528544ED.31931.125E7BD3@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C501B2E0C2@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>

All,

I have a Four-Week "Calendar" report that has 20 Sub-reports (one for
each "work day" in the 4-week period) 

This application has a little VBA code that changes some of the
properties on each of these 20 reports.

This is done with one line of code for each report like this -

Reports.Report1.Caption = Str_Test1

Reports.Report2.Caption = Str_Test2

Reports.Report3.Caption = Str_Test3 ...



Instead of having one line of code for each report, I would like to set
up a loop to handle this processing.

To do this, I need to somehow use a variable something like...

Reports. & MyVariable & .Caption = Str_Test1

Is this possible?
Thanks,
Brad


From dbdoug at gmail.com  Fri Nov 15 16:06:19 2013
From: dbdoug at gmail.com (Doug Steele)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 14:06:19 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Use of a Variable for Setting Report Properties
In-Reply-To: <E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C501B2E0C2@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>
References: <s283fd92.079@cactus.dk>
	<E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C50163B56A@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>
	<528544ED.31931.125E7BD3@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
	<E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C501B2E0C2@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>
Message-ID: <CAFa8NkhfcEX3OgGtTzM0hVaKr5TeFk-2SQHLdQhLkE93femJww@mail.gmail.com>

Reports(MyVariable).Caption

that should do it.  Just tested it here OK

Doug


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Brad Marks <BradM at blackforestltd.com>wrote:

> All,
>
> I have a Four-Week "Calendar" report that has 20 Sub-reports (one for
> each "work day" in the 4-week period)
>
> This application has a little VBA code that changes some of the
> properties on each of these 20 reports.
>
> This is done with one line of code for each report like this -
>
> Reports.Report1.Caption = Str_Test1
>
> Reports.Report2.Caption = Str_Test2
>
> Reports.Report3.Caption = Str_Test3 ...
>
>
>
> Instead of having one line of code for each report, I would like to set
> up a loop to handle this processing.
>
> To do this, I need to somehow use a variable something like...
>
> Reports. & MyVariable & .Caption = Str_Test1
>
> Is this possible?
> Thanks,
> Brad
>
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>

From Gustav at cactus.dk  Fri Nov 15 16:12:04 2013
From: Gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 23:12:04 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Use of a Variable for Setting Report Properties
Message-ID: <s286aa67.032@cactus.dk>

Hi Brad

It is. Turn Str_Test1 etc. into an array, Str_Test.

Then:

For intN = 1 To 20
    Reports("Report" & CStr(intN)).Caption = Str_Test(intN - 1)
Next

/gustav

>>> BradM at blackforestltd.com 15-11-13 22:44 >>>
All,

I have a Four-Week "Calendar" report that has 20 Sub-reports (one for
each "work day" in the 4-week period) 

This application has a little VBA code that changes some of the
properties on each of these 20 reports.

This is done with one line of code for each report like this -

Reports.Report1.Caption = Str_Test1

Reports.Report2.Caption = Str_Test2

Reports.Report3.Caption = Str_Test3 ...



Instead of having one line of code for each report, I would like to set
up a loop to handle this processing.

To do this, I need to somehow use a variable something like...

Reports. & MyVariable & .Caption = Str_Test1

Is this possible?
Thanks,
Brad


From ab-mi at post3.tele.dk  Fri Nov 15 17:11:51 2013
From: ab-mi at post3.tele.dk (Asger Blond)
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 00:11:51 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humor
References: <0B4AA61FDEF597449F7D28C41E786D96538C44@DDI-DC1.DDI.local>
Message-ID: <F4.B5.01299.83AA6825@fep40.mail.dk>

Immanuel Kant: "Habe Mut, dich deines eigenen Verstandes zu bedienen!"
(In: Beantwortung der Frage: Was ist Aufkl?rung?)
/ Asger

----- Original meddelelse -----

> Fra: Anita Smith <anita at ddisolutions.com.au>
> Til: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Dato: Fre, 15. nov 2013 02:29
> Emne: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humor
> 
> YAY! It's Friday here in Australia and I'm celebrating by watching
> one of my favourite videos. I think other nerds may like this one.
> 
> http://youtu.be/fk6Q-SmLVQ4
> 
> 
> Anita Smith
> 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Nov 15 17:29:28 2013
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 16:29:28 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [AccessD] Use of a Variable for Setting Report Properties
In-Reply-To: <E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C501B2E0C2@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>
Message-ID: <1933692706.62250736.1384558168321.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Brad:

You can manage everything through the report's OnOpen event. You can either embed the code in the report or call a public function from the event. The control can just be managed through an incrementing variable.

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Marks" <BradM at blackforestltd.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 1:44:27 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Use of a Variable for Setting Report Properties

All,

I have a Four-Week "Calendar" report that has 20 Sub-reports (one for
each "work day" in the 4-week period) 

This application has a little VBA code that changes some of the
properties on each of these 20 reports.

This is done with one line of code for each report like this -

Reports.Report1.Caption = Str_Test1

Reports.Report2.Caption = Str_Test2

Reports.Report3.Caption = Str_Test3 ...



Instead of having one line of code for each report, I would like to set
up a loop to handle this processing.

To do this, I need to somehow use a variable something like...

Reports. & MyVariable & .Caption = Str_Test1

Is this possible?
Thanks,
Brad

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From charlotte.foust at gmail.com  Fri Nov 15 18:42:38 2013
From: charlotte.foust at gmail.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 16:42:38 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...
In-Reply-To: <79CD44C8BBAF409F9BCD4D831F0468B6@kost36>
References: <CAMEw5yVJXeKTDWy3iq+e7Bp46qrkx1TChLt=yW8oS7018zqjjQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1jOeJLqX0d8f_x2uZHA6UyGf+83xe=wCLGosRNnY-22FQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<32109BE0D464487296BB1081C424A332@HomePC>
	<CAGuQ9V6CJWJomDPDmgRGLor_ZdkzGwcvrvFV4oyDXwQ+uViiCw@mail.gmail.com>
	<02ff01cee1b4$d4b35b10$7e1a1130$@net>
	<CAEPJO1j3BzQTiguHc2qMzXKqCCBh+=0o5BxR4be_y8jogGGKMA@mail.gmail.com>
	<79CD44C8BBAF409F9BCD4D831F0468B6@kost36>
Message-ID: <CAH+Met8M1doPisYS5_xR9KQ6ie_53585SK3+H3TVp3myTgwsTA@mail.gmail.com>

Are you saying they're all using the same front end rather than individual
copies?  You're setting the rowsource for the listbox in the textbox Change
event and then using the doubleclick event of the listbox to open a form
filtered on the selected listbox value, right?  Are you then closing the
form with the listbox or clearing it to free up the resources?

Charlotte


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Kostas Konstantinidis <kost36 at otenet.gr>wrote:

> hi to all,
> I am working on a mdb file (office 2010) under linked tables from another
> database which is installed on a home network (workgroup 192.168.0.xx)
> For quick searching on basics fields (name, year born etc) every user on
> the network is working with a deigned form including an unbound list box
>
> on a text unbound
> Private Sub text_box_Change()
> Me![list2].RowSource = "SELECT [AM], [Last_name], [First_name],
> [Father_name], [year_born] FROM [q_start_list] WHERE [Last_first_name]like
> '" & Me![text_box].Text & "*'"
> End Sub
>
> on a button
> Private Sub list2_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
>    Dim stDocName As String
>    Dim stLinkCriteria As String
>    stDocName = "MT_basic_char"
>    stLinkCriteria = "[AM] = " & Me!list2.Value & ""
>    DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria
> End Sub
>
> what it happens... if only one person is connected working on the listbox
> there is no problem at all while the response returns on the spot
> But when more than one try to work on the same listbox the response is
> ridiculously slow...
>
> Is there any idea about which is the reason it happens?
>
> thank?s in advance
> /kostas
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From anita at ddisolutions.com.au  Fri Nov 15 19:12:46 2013
From: anita at ddisolutions.com.au (Anita Smith)
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 01:12:46 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...
In-Reply-To: <79CD44C8BBAF409F9BCD4D831F0468B6@kost36>
References: <CAMEw5yVJXeKTDWy3iq+e7Bp46qrkx1TChLt=yW8oS7018zqjjQ@mail.gmail.com><CAEPJO1jOeJLqX0d8f_x2uZHA6UyGf+83xe=wCLGosRNnY-22FQ@mail.gmail.com><32109BE0D464487296BB1081C424A332@HomePC><CAGuQ9V6CJWJomDPDmgRGLor_ZdkzGwcvrvFV4oyDXwQ+uViiCw@mail.gmail.com><02ff01cee1b4$d4b35b10$7e1a1130$@net>
	<CAEPJO1j3BzQTiguHc2qMzXKqCCBh+=0o5BxR4be_y8jogGGKMA@mail.gmail.com>
	<79CD44C8BBAF409F9BCD4D831F0468B6@kost36>
Message-ID: <0B4AA61FDEF597449F7D28C41E786D96538E24@DDI-DC1.DDI.local>

Kostas,
I use this method on a regular basis except for two steps:

I have a second text box that receives the characters the user types in the search text box. I call it txtFindIt and I use this field as a criteria rather that the field they type in.

On change of txtSearch I fire the following:

Me.txtFindIt = Me.txtSearch.Text
Me.MyListBox.Requery

Instead of concocting the rowsource for the list box on the fly I use a query instead.
My list box has a permanent rowsource and I put the following criteria in the field I want to search on.

Like "*" & [Forms]![frmMyForm]![txtFindIt] & "*"

It may sound confusing but it is really very simple and have worked with many concurrent users so far. I can't remember why I do it this way but I think it has something to do with a problem using the textbox that the users type into as the criteria and using the OnChange event - anyhow my method works a treat.

Anita Smith


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kostas Konstantinidis
Sent: Saturday, 16 November 2013 5:06 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...

hi to all,
I am working on a mdb file (office 2010) under linked tables from another database which is installed on a home network (workgroup 192.168.0.xx) For quick searching on basics fields (name, year born etc) every user on the network is working with a deigned form including an unbound list box

on a text unbound
Private Sub text_box_Change()
Me![list2].RowSource = "SELECT [AM], [Last_name], [First_name], [Father_name], [year_born] FROM [q_start_list] WHERE [Last_first_name]like '" & Me![text_box].Text & "*'"
End Sub

on a button
Private Sub list2_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
    Dim stDocName As String
    Dim stLinkCriteria As String
    stDocName = "MT_basic_char"
    stLinkCriteria = "[AM] = " & Me!list2.Value & ""
    DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria End Sub

what it happens... if only one person is connected working on the listbox there is no problem at all while the response returns on the spot But when more than one try to work on the same listbox the response is ridiculously slow...

Is there any idea about which is the reason it happens?

thank?s in advance
/kostas 

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From BradM at blackforestltd.com  Fri Nov 15 19:44:47 2013
From: BradM at blackforestltd.com (Brad Marks)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 19:44:47 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Use of a Variable for Setting Report Properties
References: <s283fd92.079@cactus.dk><E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C50163B56A@blkltd.blkfst2003.local><528544ED.31931.125E7BD3@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg><E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C501B2E0C2@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>
	<CAFa8NkhfcEX3OgGtTzM0hVaKr5TeFk-2SQHLdQhLkE93femJww@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C50163B56E@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>

Doug, Gustav, Jim,

Thanks for your help and advice, I really appreciate the assistance.

My code is now working nicely and I am all smiles.

Brad 




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Doug Steele
Sent: Fri 11/15/2013 4:06 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Use of a Variable for Setting Report Properties
 
Reports(MyVariable).Caption

that should do it.  Just tested it here OK

Doug


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Brad Marks <BradM at blackforestltd.com>wrote:

> All,
>
> I have a Four-Week "Calendar" report that has 20 Sub-reports (one for
> each "work day" in the 4-week period)
>
> This application has a little VBA code that changes some of the
> properties on each of these 20 reports.
>
> This is done with one line of code for each report like this -
>
> Reports.Report1.Caption = Str_Test1
>
> Reports.Report2.Caption = Str_Test2
>
> Reports.Report3.Caption = Str_Test3 ...
>
>
>
> Instead of having one line of code for each report, I would like to set
> up a loop to handle this processing.
>
> To do this, I need to somehow use a variable something like...
>
> Reports. & MyVariable & .Caption = Str_Test1
>
> Is this possible?
> Thanks,
> Brad
>
> --
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From anita at ddisolutions.com.au  Fri Nov 15 20:00:39 2013
From: anita at ddisolutions.com.au (Anita Smith)
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 02:00:39 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...
In-Reply-To: <79CD44C8BBAF409F9BCD4D831F0468B6@kost36>
References: <CAMEw5yVJXeKTDWy3iq+e7Bp46qrkx1TChLt=yW8oS7018zqjjQ@mail.gmail.com><CAEPJO1jOeJLqX0d8f_x2uZHA6UyGf+83xe=wCLGosRNnY-22FQ@mail.gmail.com><32109BE0D464487296BB1081C424A332@HomePC><CAGuQ9V6CJWJomDPDmgRGLor_ZdkzGwcvrvFV4oyDXwQ+uViiCw@mail.gmail.com><02ff01cee1b4$d4b35b10$7e1a1130$@net>
	<CAEPJO1j3BzQTiguHc2qMzXKqCCBh+=0o5BxR4be_y8jogGGKMA@mail.gmail.com>
	<79CD44C8BBAF409F9BCD4D831F0468B6@kost36>
Message-ID: <0B4AA61FDEF597449F7D28C41E786D96538E60@DDI-DC1.DDI.local>

Kostas,
I forgot to mention that if your problem is down to network speed then you are better off changing your list box to a subform and using the Forms Filter property to filter it. That way you are only hauling the data over once when the form opens and from then on there should be no additional network traffic.

Anita Smith

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kostas Konstantinidis
Sent: Saturday, 16 November 2013 5:06 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...

hi to all,
I am working on a mdb file (office 2010) under linked tables from another database which is installed on a home network (workgroup 192.168.0.xx) For quick searching on basics fields (name, year born etc) every user on the network is working with a deigned form including an unbound list box

on a text unbound
Private Sub text_box_Change()
Me![list2].RowSource = "SELECT [AM], [Last_name], [First_name], [Father_name], [year_born] FROM [q_start_list] WHERE [Last_first_name]like '" & Me![text_box].Text & "*'"
End Sub

on a button
Private Sub list2_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
    Dim stDocName As String
    Dim stLinkCriteria As String
    stDocName = "MT_basic_char"
    stLinkCriteria = "[AM] = " & Me!list2.Value & ""
    DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria End Sub

what it happens... if only one person is connected working on the listbox there is no problem at all while the response returns on the spot But when more than one try to work on the same listbox the response is ridiculously slow...

Is there any idea about which is the reason it happens?

thank?s in advance
/kostas 



From kost36 at otenet.gr  Sat Nov 16 01:19:17 2013
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 09:19:17 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...
In-Reply-To: <CAH+Met8M1doPisYS5_xR9KQ6ie_53585SK3+H3TVp3myTgwsTA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMEw5yVJXeKTDWy3iq+e7Bp46qrkx1TChLt=yW8oS7018zqjjQ@mail.gmail.com><CAEPJO1jOeJLqX0d8f_x2uZHA6UyGf+83xe=wCLGosRNnY-22FQ@mail.gmail.com><32109BE0D464487296BB1081C424A332@HomePC><CAGuQ9V6CJWJomDPDmgRGLor_ZdkzGwcvrvFV4oyDXwQ+uViiCw@mail.gmail.com><02ff01cee1b4$d4b35b10$7e1a1130$@net><CAEPJO1j3BzQTiguHc2qMzXKqCCBh+=0o5BxR4be_y8jogGGKMA@mail.gmail.com><79CD44C8BBAF409F9BCD4D831F0468B6@kost36>
	<CAH+Met8M1doPisYS5_xR9KQ6ie_53585SK3+H3TVp3myTgwsTA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A26F9F5865164F78BE5A46C05F9ED18F@kost36>

Charlotte,
hmm... no the form remains always open even after the dblclick..
So It could be probably better to add a requery or refresh or something as a 
last line down of the dblclick event?

thank's
/kostas


-----Original Message----- 
From: Charlotte Foust
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 2:42 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...

Are you saying they're all using the same front end rather than individual
copies?  You're setting the rowsource for the listbox in the textbox Change
event and then using the doubleclick event of the listbox to open a form
filtered on the selected listbox value, right?  Are you then closing the
form with the listbox or clearing it to free up the resources?

Charlotte


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Kostas Konstantinidis 
<kost36 at otenet.gr>wrote:

> hi to all,
> I am working on a mdb file (office 2010) under linked tables from another
> database which is installed on a home network (workgroup 192.168.0.xx)
> For quick searching on basics fields (name, year born etc) every user on
> the network is working with a deigned form including an unbound list box
>
> on a text unbound
> Private Sub text_box_Change()
> Me![list2].RowSource = "SELECT [AM], [Last_name], [First_name],
> [Father_name], [year_born] FROM [q_start_list] WHERE [Last_first_name]like
> '" & Me![text_box].Text & "*'"
> End Sub
>
> on a button
> Private Sub list2_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
>    Dim stDocName As String
>    Dim stLinkCriteria As String
>    stDocName = "MT_basic_char"
>    stLinkCriteria = "[AM] = " & Me!list2.Value & ""
>    DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria
> End Sub
>
> what it happens... if only one person is connected working on the listbox
> there is no problem at all while the response returns on the spot
> But when more than one try to work on the same listbox the response is
> ridiculously slow...
>
> Is there any idea about which is the reason it happens?
>
> thank?s in advance
> /kostas
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From kost36 at otenet.gr  Sat Nov 16 01:32:52 2013
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 09:32:52 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...
In-Reply-To: <0B4AA61FDEF597449F7D28C41E786D96538E24@DDI-DC1.DDI.local>
References: <CAMEw5yVJXeKTDWy3iq+e7Bp46qrkx1TChLt=yW8oS7018zqjjQ@mail.gmail.com><CAEPJO1jOeJLqX0d8f_x2uZHA6UyGf+83xe=wCLGosRNnY-22FQ@mail.gmail.com><32109BE0D464487296BB1081C424A332@HomePC><CAGuQ9V6CJWJomDPDmgRGLor_ZdkzGwcvrvFV4oyDXwQ+uViiCw@mail.gmail.com><02ff01cee1b4$d4b35b10$7e1a1130$@net><CAEPJO1j3BzQTiguHc2qMzXKqCCBh+=0o5BxR4be_y8jogGGKMA@mail.gmail.com><79CD44C8BBAF409F9BCD4D831F0468B6@kost36>
	<0B4AA61FDEF597449F7D28C41E786D96538E24@DDI-DC1.DDI.local>
Message-ID: <C81549FD0F3F429AAE73147708E7CC00@kost36>

Anita,
I'll try your own method too because ultimately it is very frustrating to 
the user to type a letter waiting more than 10 seconds to get the return 
filtered values
thank's for your reply.
/kostas

-----Original Message----- 
From: Anita Smith
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 3:12 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...

Kostas,
I use this method on a regular basis except for two steps:

I have a second text box that receives the characters the user types in the 
search text box. I call it txtFindIt and I use this field as a criteria 
rather that the field they type in.

On change of txtSearch I fire the following:

Me.txtFindIt = Me.txtSearch.Text
Me.MyListBox.Requery

Instead of concocting the rowsource for the list box on the fly I use a 
query instead.
My list box has a permanent rowsource and I put the following criteria in 
the field I want to search on.

Like "*" & [Forms]![frmMyForm]![txtFindIt] & "*"

It may sound confusing but it is really very simple and have worked with 
many concurrent users so far. I can't remember why I do it this way but I 
think it has something to do with a problem using the textbox that the users 
type into as the criteria and using the OnChange event - anyhow my method 
works a treat.

Anita Smith


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kostas 
Konstantinidis
Sent: Saturday, 16 November 2013 5:06 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...

hi to all,
I am working on a mdb file (office 2010) under linked tables from another 
database which is installed on a home network (workgroup 192.168.0.xx) For 
quick searching on basics fields (name, year born etc) every user on the 
network is working with a deigned form including an unbound list box

on a text unbound
Private Sub text_box_Change()
Me![list2].RowSource = "SELECT [AM], [Last_name], [First_name], 
[Father_name], [year_born] FROM [q_start_list] WHERE [Last_first_name]like 
'" & Me![text_box].Text & "*'"
End Sub

on a button
Private Sub list2_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
    Dim stDocName As String
    Dim stLinkCriteria As String
    stDocName = "MT_basic_char"
    stLinkCriteria = "[AM] = " & Me!list2.Value & ""
    DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria End Sub

what it happens... if only one person is connected working on the listbox 
there is no problem at all while the response returns on the spot But when 
more than one try to work on the same listbox the response is ridiculously 
slow...

Is there any idea about which is the reason it happens?

thank?s in advance
/kostas

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Sat Nov 16 11:17:58 2013
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 10:17:58 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...
In-Reply-To: <0B4AA61FDEF597449F7D28C41E786D96538E60@DDI-DC1.DDI.local>
Message-ID: <417941630.62793218.1384622278938.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Kostas and Anita:

Just a note: You can just store the list contents in a empty recordset and then use the recordset to repopulate the list. If you know the method, great...if not and you would like it, I can post it.

I used this method for years when there were many remote users with limited connection speeds.

Jim  

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anita Smith" <anita at ddisolutions.com.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 6:00:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...

Kostas,
I forgot to mention that if your problem is down to network speed then you are better off changing your list box to a subform and using the Forms Filter property to filter it. That way you are only hauling the data over once when the form opens and from then on there should be no additional network traffic.

Anita Smith

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kostas Konstantinidis
Sent: Saturday, 16 November 2013 5:06 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...

hi to all,
I am working on a mdb file (office 2010) under linked tables from another database which is installed on a home network (workgroup 192.168.0.xx) For quick searching on basics fields (name, year born etc) every user on the network is working with a deigned form including an unbound list box

on a text unbound
Private Sub text_box_Change()
Me![list2].RowSource = "SELECT [AM], [Last_name], [First_name], [Father_name], [year_born] FROM [q_start_list] WHERE [Last_first_name]like '" & Me![text_box].Text & "*'"
End Sub

on a button
Private Sub list2_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
    Dim stDocName As String
    Dim stLinkCriteria As String
    stDocName = "MT_basic_char"
    stLinkCriteria = "[AM] = " & Me!list2.Value & ""
    DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria End Sub

what it happens... if only one person is connected working on the listbox there is no problem at all while the response returns on the spot But when more than one try to work on the same listbox the response is ridiculously slow...

Is there any idea about which is the reason it happens?

thank?s in advance
/kostas 


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From kost36 at otenet.gr  Sat Nov 16 11:28:28 2013
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 19:28:28 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...
In-Reply-To: <417941630.62793218.1384622278938.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <417941630.62793218.1384622278938.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <FCED72B0E3AE47708CB91473D7887608@kost36>

Hi Jim,
could you please post it? It would be very helpful

thank's
/kostas


-----Original Message----- 
From: Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 7:17 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...

Hi Kostas and Anita:

Just a note: You can just store the list contents in a empty recordset and 
then use the recordset to repopulate the list. If you know the method, 
great...if not and you would like it, I can post it.

I used this method for years when there were many remote users with limited 
connection speeds.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anita Smith" <anita at ddisolutions.com.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 6:00:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...

Kostas,
I forgot to mention that if your problem is down to network speed then you 
are better off changing your list box to a subform and using the Forms 
Filter property to filter it. That way you are only hauling the data over 
once when the form opens and from then on there should be no additional 
network traffic.

Anita Smith

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kostas 
Konstantinidis
Sent: Saturday, 16 November 2013 5:06 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...

hi to all,
I am working on a mdb file (office 2010) under linked tables from another 
database which is installed on a home network (workgroup 192.168.0.xx) For 
quick searching on basics fields (name, year born etc) every user on the 
network is working with a deigned form including an unbound list box

on a text unbound
Private Sub text_box_Change()
Me![list2].RowSource = "SELECT [AM], [Last_name], [First_name], 
[Father_name], [year_born] FROM [q_start_list] WHERE [Last_first_name]like 
'" & Me![text_box].Text & "*'"
End Sub

on a button
Private Sub list2_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
    Dim stDocName As String
    Dim stLinkCriteria As String
    stDocName = "MT_basic_char"
    stLinkCriteria = "[AM] = " & Me!list2.Value & ""
    DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria End Sub

what it happens... if only one person is connected working on the listbox 
there is no problem at all while the response returns on the spot But when 
more than one try to work on the same listbox the response is ridiculously 
slow...

Is there any idea about which is the reason it happens?

thank?s in advance
/kostas


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From jimdettman at verizon.net  Sat Nov 16 12:02:19 2013
From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 13:02:19 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...
In-Reply-To: <79CD44C8BBAF409F9BCD4D831F0468B6@kost36>
References: <CAMEw5yVJXeKTDWy3iq+e7Bp46qrkx1TChLt=yW8oS7018zqjjQ@mail.gmail.com><CAEPJO1jOeJLqX0d8f_x2uZHA6UyGf+83xe=wCLGosRNnY-22FQ@mail.gmail.com><32109BE0D464487296BB1081C424A332@HomePC><CAGuQ9V6CJWJomDPDmgRGLor_ZdkzGwcvrvFV4oyDXwQ+uViiCw@mail.gmail.com><02ff01cee1b4$d4b35b10$7e1a1130$@net>
	<CAEPJO1j3BzQTiguHc2qMzXKqCCBh+=0o5BxR4be_y8jogGGKMA@mail.gmail.com>
	<79CD44C8BBAF409F9BCD4D831F0468B6@kost36>
Message-ID: <B238F7A909C14EC3849ABE937EAFA8FF@XPS>


 You also might want to try adding a connection to the back end DB that
exists for the life of the app.

  This avoids repeated closing/opening of the BE.   You should keep a
connection open for each BE if you have more then one.  Simplest method is
to open a hidden form at startup, but it can be anything; DB open in code,
open a record set on a linked table, or whatever.

Jim. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kostas
Konstantinidis
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 01:06 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...

hi to all,
I am working on a mdb file (office 2010) under linked tables from another 
database which is installed on a home network (workgroup 192.168.0.xx)
For quick searching on basics fields (name, year born etc) every user on the

network is working with a deigned form including an unbound list box

on a text unbound
Private Sub text_box_Change()
Me![list2].RowSource = "SELECT [AM], [Last_name], [First_name], 
[Father_name], [year_born] FROM [q_start_list] WHERE [Last_first_name]like 
'" & Me![text_box].Text & "*'"
End Sub

on a button
Private Sub list2_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
    Dim stDocName As String
    Dim stLinkCriteria As String
    stDocName = "MT_basic_char"
    stLinkCriteria = "[AM] = " & Me!list2.Value & ""
    DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria
End Sub

what it happens... if only one person is connected working on the listbox 
there is no problem at all while the response returns on the spot
But when more than one try to work on the same listbox the response is 
ridiculously slow...

Is there any idea about which is the reason it happens?

thank's in advance
/kostas 

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From anita at ddisolutions.com.au  Sat Nov 16 19:24:32 2013
From: anita at ddisolutions.com.au (Anita Smith)
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 01:24:32 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...
In-Reply-To: <417941630.62793218.1384622278938.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <0B4AA61FDEF597449F7D28C41E786D96538E60@DDI-DC1.DDI.local>
	<417941630.62793218.1384622278938.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <0B4AA61FDEF597449F7D28C41E786D96538F28@DDI-DC1.DDI.local>

Jim,
That sounds very interesting. Please post it.

Anita Smith


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Sunday, 17 November 2013 4:18 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...

Hi Kostas and Anita:

Just a note: You can just store the list contents in a empty recordset and then use the recordset to repopulate the list. If you know the method, great...if not and you would like it, I can post it.

I used this method for years when there were many remote users with limited connection speeds.

Jim  

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anita Smith" <anita at ddisolutions.com.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 6:00:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...

Kostas,
I forgot to mention that if your problem is down to network speed then you are better off changing your list box to a subform and using the Forms Filter property to filter it. That way you are only hauling the data over once when the form opens and from then on there should be no additional network traffic.

Anita Smith

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kostas Konstantinidis
Sent: Saturday, 16 November 2013 5:06 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...

hi to all,
I am working on a mdb file (office 2010) under linked tables from another database which is installed on a home network (workgroup 192.168.0.xx) For quick searching on basics fields (name, year born etc) every user on the network is working with a deigned form including an unbound list box

on a text unbound
Private Sub text_box_Change()
Me![list2].RowSource = "SELECT [AM], [Last_name], [First_name], [Father_name], [year_born] FROM [q_start_list] WHERE [Last_first_name]like '" & Me![text_box].Text & "*'"
End Sub

on a button
Private Sub list2_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
    Dim stDocName As String
    Dim stLinkCriteria As String
    stDocName = "MT_basic_char"
    stLinkCriteria = "[AM] = " & Me!list2.Value & ""
    DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria End Sub

what it happens... if only one person is connected working on the listbox there is no problem at all while the response returns on the spot But when more than one try to work on the same listbox the response is ridiculously slow...

Is there any idea about which is the reason it happens?

thank?s in advance
/kostas 


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From kost36 at otenet.gr  Sun Nov 17 14:50:59 2013
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 22:50:59 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...
In-Reply-To: <B238F7A909C14EC3849ABE937EAFA8FF@XPS>
References: <CAMEw5yVJXeKTDWy3iq+e7Bp46qrkx1TChLt=yW8oS7018zqjjQ@mail.gmail.com><CAEPJO1jOeJLqX0d8f_x2uZHA6UyGf+83xe=wCLGosRNnY-22FQ@mail.gmail.com><32109BE0D464487296BB1081C424A332@HomePC><CAGuQ9V6CJWJomDPDmgRGLor_ZdkzGwcvrvFV4oyDXwQ+uViiCw@mail.gmail.com><02ff01cee1b4$d4b35b10$7e1a1130$@net><CAEPJO1j3BzQTiguHc2qMzXKqCCBh+=0o5BxR4be_y8jogGGKMA@mail.gmail.com><79CD44C8BBAF409F9BCD4D831F0468B6@kost36>
	<B238F7A909C14EC3849ABE937EAFA8FF@XPS>
Message-ID: <1C21476C85544F6C9BB6FBAB7C51B109@kost36>

Thank's Jim



-----Original Message----- 
From: Jim Dettman
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 8:02 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...


You also might want to try adding a connection to the back end DB that
exists for the life of the app.

  This avoids repeated closing/opening of the BE.   You should keep a
connection open for each BE if you have more then one.  Simplest method is
to open a hidden form at startup, but it can be anything; DB open in code,
open a record set on a linked table, or whatever.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kostas
Konstantinidis
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 01:06 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...

hi to all,
I am working on a mdb file (office 2010) under linked tables from another
database which is installed on a home network (workgroup 192.168.0.xx)
For quick searching on basics fields (name, year born etc) every user on the

network is working with a deigned form including an unbound list box

on a text unbound
Private Sub text_box_Change()
Me![list2].RowSource = "SELECT [AM], [Last_name], [First_name],
[Father_name], [year_born] FROM [q_start_list] WHERE [Last_first_name]like
'" & Me![text_box].Text & "*'"
End Sub

on a button
Private Sub list2_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
    Dim stDocName As String
    Dim stLinkCriteria As String
    stDocName = "MT_basic_char"
    stLinkCriteria = "[AM] = " & Me!list2.Value & ""
    DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria
End Sub

what it happens... if only one person is connected working on the listbox
there is no problem at all while the response returns on the spot
But when more than one try to work on the same listbox the response is
ridiculously slow...

Is there any idea about which is the reason it happens?

thank's in advance
/kostas

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From BradM at blackforestltd.com  Mon Nov 18 13:12:39 2013
From: BradM at blackforestltd.com (Brad Marks)
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 13:12:39 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on Intranet
References: <s283fd92.079@cactus.dk>,
	<E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C50163B568@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>
	<5284422A.4807.E6BB3A0@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>
Message-ID: <E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C501B2E214@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>

Stuart,

Based on your e-mail I decided to experiment with a web server.

Over the weekend, I downloaded and installed an Open Source tool called
WAMP (Windows - Apache - MS SQL Server - PHP).

I then ran some tests and you are right.  When a PDF file is served up
by the web server (Apache in my case), the file is not locked when it is
opened.

I don't quite understand why this works, but it does.

Thanks again for your advice.

Brad

PS.  I had never played with Apache before and it took less than 15
minutes to download and install it and run some quick tests.  I had also
never played with PHP before and I was surprised to learn how easy it
was to work in this environment.  Here in Minnesota, we have long cold
winters and it is good to have some new toys to play with in order to
avoid the weather  :-) 


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

   

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
McLachlan
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 9:23 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on
Intranet

Shadowcopy  - http://www.runtime.org/shadow-copy.htm

However, that is not the correct solution to your problem.  Your problem
is the way the Intranet is set up.  

Are you using a prpoer web server, or are you just using URLs to a
shared folder on your network. It looks like the latter.

If you use a web server to serve the PDF, it will not be locked by a
user viewing it.   



On 13 Nov 2013 at 19:39, Brad Marks wrote:

> Gustav,
> 
> Thanks for the assistance.
> 
> I changed the creation of the PDF to go into a working folder.
> 
> I then added a small step to copy the PDF file from the working folder

> to the folder that the Intranet uses. This step uses a .bat file (Copy

> C:\Staging\Test.PDF C:\Intranet\Test.PDF)
> 
> When I run this two-step process, I still run into problems if the PDF

> file in the Intranet folder is in use when the second step is 
> executed.
> 
> I am wondering if there is any Windows Utility that can copy from 
> A.pdf to B.pdf when B.pdf is opened.
> 
> Thanks,
> Brad
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Gustav Brock
> Sent: Wed 11/13/2013 3:30 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject:
> Re: [AccessD] Problems with Refreshing Access Report on	Intranet
> 
> Hi Brad
> 
> Right after the creation of the PDF in a working folder, you could 
> copy it to the folder users reach.
> 
> /gustav
> 
> >>> BradM at blackforestltd.com 13-11-13 20:25 >>>
> All,
> 
> We use Access 2007 to create a large number of reports from data that 
> is stored in a purchased package system.  This works very nicely.
> 
> Recently, we have built a new report that shows "production schedule 
> information".  Our users really like this new report, the catch is 
> that it takes about 2-3 minutes to generate it.
> 
> Because of this long generation time, I have set up a scheduled task 
> to run every 15 minutes to generate this new report.  The output is 
> exported as a PDF file.  One of the pages on our Intranet has a link 
> to this PDF file.  This approach has worked nicely.
> 
> Our users really like being able to obtain this report instantly via 
> the Intranet rather than waiting 2-3 minutes when they generate it via

> the Access application.
> 
> There is one problem, however.  If any user is viewing the PDF file 
> when the "refresh job" is running, the refresh is not able to place 
> the new PDF file in the Intranet's folder.
> 
> I am curious if anyone else has run into this problem and has ideas on

> how to work around it.
> 
> Thanks,
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Mon Nov 18 13:50:58 2013
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 12:50:58 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...
In-Reply-To: <FCED72B0E3AE47708CB91473D7887608@kost36>
Message-ID: <1697359129.64463356.1384804258345.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Kostas and Anita:

Be patient as I am in the midst of reno-hell...

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kostas Konstantinidis" <kost36 at otenet.gr>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 9:28:28 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...

Hi Jim,
could you please post it? It would be very helpful

thank's
/kostas


-----Original Message----- 
From: Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 7:17 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...

Hi Kostas and Anita:

Just a note: You can just store the list contents in a empty recordset and 
then use the recordset to repopulate the list. If you know the method, 
great...if not and you would like it, I can post it.

I used this method for years when there were many remote users with limited 
connection speeds.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anita Smith" <anita at ddisolutions.com.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 6:00:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...

Kostas,
I forgot to mention that if your problem is down to network speed then you 
are better off changing your list box to a subform and using the Forms 
Filter property to filter it. That way you are only hauling the data over 
once when the form opens and from then on there should be no additional 
network traffic.

Anita Smith

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kostas 
Konstantinidis
Sent: Saturday, 16 November 2013 5:06 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...

hi to all,
I am working on a mdb file (office 2010) under linked tables from another 
database which is installed on a home network (workgroup 192.168.0.xx) For 
quick searching on basics fields (name, year born etc) every user on the 
network is working with a deigned form including an unbound list box

on a text unbound
Private Sub text_box_Change()
Me![list2].RowSource = "SELECT [AM], [Last_name], [First_name], 
[Father_name], [year_born] FROM [q_start_list] WHERE [Last_first_name]like 
'" & Me![text_box].Text & "*'"
End Sub

on a button
Private Sub list2_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
    Dim stDocName As String
    Dim stLinkCriteria As String
    stDocName = "MT_basic_char"
    stLinkCriteria = "[AM] = " & Me!list2.Value & ""
    DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria End Sub

what it happens... if only one person is connected working on the listbox 
there is no problem at all while the response returns on the spot But when 
more than one try to work on the same listbox the response is ridiculously 
slow...

Is there any idea about which is the reason it happens?

thank?s in advance
/kostas


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From anita at ddisolutions.com.au  Mon Nov 18 16:14:56 2013
From: anita at ddisolutions.com.au (Anita Smith)
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 22:14:56 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...
In-Reply-To: <1697359129.64463356.1384804258345.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <FCED72B0E3AE47708CB91473D7887608@kost36>
	<1697359129.64463356.1384804258345.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <0B4AA61FDEF597449F7D28C41E786D9653A2CA@DDI-DC1.DDI.local>

No worries Jim. Best of luck with the reno :-)

Anita Smith


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2013 6:51 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...

Hi Kostas and Anita:

Be patient as I am in the midst of reno-hell...

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kostas Konstantinidis" <kost36 at otenet.gr>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 9:28:28 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...

Hi Jim,
could you please post it? It would be very helpful

thank's
/kostas


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Lawrence
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 7:17 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...

Hi Kostas and Anita:

Just a note: You can just store the list contents in a empty recordset and then use the recordset to repopulate the list. If you know the method, great...if not and you would like it, I can post it.

I used this method for years when there were many remote users with limited connection speeds.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anita Smith" <anita at ddisolutions.com.au>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 6:00:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...

Kostas,
I forgot to mention that if your problem is down to network speed then you are better off changing your list box to a subform and using the Forms Filter property to filter it. That way you are only hauling the data over once when the form opens and from then on there should be no additional network traffic.

Anita Smith

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kostas Konstantinidis
Sent: Saturday, 16 November 2013 5:06 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] problem of a listbox's response on network...

hi to all,
I am working on a mdb file (office 2010) under linked tables from another database which is installed on a home network (workgroup 192.168.0.xx) For quick searching on basics fields (name, year born etc) every user on the network is working with a deigned form including an unbound list box

on a text unbound
Private Sub text_box_Change()
Me![list2].RowSource = "SELECT [AM], [Last_name], [First_name], [Father_name], [year_born] FROM [q_start_list] WHERE [Last_first_name]like '" & Me![text_box].Text & "*'"
End Sub

on a button
Private Sub list2_DblClick(Cancel As Integer)
    Dim stDocName As String
    Dim stLinkCriteria As String
    stDocName = "MT_basic_char"
    stLinkCriteria = "[AM] = " & Me!list2.Value & ""
    DoCmd.OpenForm stDocName, , , stLinkCriteria End Sub

what it happens... if only one person is connected working on the listbox there is no problem at all while the response returns on the spot But when more than one try to work on the same listbox the response is ridiculously slow...

Is there any idea about which is the reason it happens?

thank?s in advance
/kostas


From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Nov 19 16:35:39 2013
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 17:35:39 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Office 2010 versions
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1j7pCe6Fn0=gxmWgW4BmdXa7Gk1=FiUWAiPARE34gF+qw@mail.gmail.com>

Which versions of Office 2010 contain Access? There seems to be more than
one version of Pro. It also seems that MS is pushing everyone to 2013. I'm
confused.

-- 
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From darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au  Tue Nov 19 18:02:31 2013
From: darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au (Darryl Collins)
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 00:02:31 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Office 2010 versions
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1j7pCe6Fn0=gxmWgW4BmdXa7Gk1=FiUWAiPARE34gF+qw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1j7pCe6Fn0=gxmWgW4BmdXa7Gk1=FiUWAiPARE34gF+qw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9909ed9fe6fb4d6382a76043d2aef577@HKXPR04MB037.apcprd04.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Arthur,

Have a look here,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Office_2010#Editions

You can also purchase MS Access 2010 as a stand alone product.  I did that myself as the original Office package I had did not include it, but I didn't want fork up the coin for a different version of Office that had a lot of gumph I didn't want / need either.

>From my understanding all the versions are the same and it is the license you get (ie what you pay) which unlocks the various functions / features.

Cheers
Darryl.



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2013 9:36 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Office 2010 versions

Which versions of Office 2010 contain Access? There seems to be more than one version of Pro. It also seems that MS is pushing everyone to 2013. I'm confused.

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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Nov 19 19:23:26 2013
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 20:23:26 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Office 2010 versions
In-Reply-To: <9909ed9fe6fb4d6382a76043d2aef577@HKXPR04MB037.apcprd04.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CAEPJO1j7pCe6Fn0=gxmWgW4BmdXa7Gk1=FiUWAiPARE34gF+qw@mail.gmail.com>
	<9909ed9fe6fb4d6382a76043d2aef577@HKXPR04MB037.apcprd04.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1igZZg+PjpL3pgMOBcPCWRU5_ZiZbVEU_D55gqAU=6qZg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, Darryl. I'll look into buying Access 2010 alone, since that's the
only product I'll actually need for my new project. For the rest of the
suite, I'm happy with 2007.


On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Darryl Collins <
darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au> wrote:

> Hi Arthur,
>
> Have a look here,
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Office_2010#Editions
>
> You can also purchase MS Access 2010 as a stand alone product.  I did that
> myself as the original Office package I had did not include it, but I
> didn't want fork up the coin for a different version of Office that had a
> lot of gumph I didn't want / need either.
>
> From my understanding all the versions are the same and it is the license
> you get (ie what you pay) which unlocks the various functions / features.
>
> Cheers
> Darryl.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:
> accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2013 9:36 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: [AccessD] Office 2010 versions
>
> Which versions of Office 2010 contain Access? There seems to be more than
> one version of Pro. It also seems that MS is pushing everyone to 2013. I'm
> confused.
>
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From charlotte.foust at gmail.com  Wed Nov 20 11:19:24 2013
From: charlotte.foust at gmail.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 09:19:24 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Office 2010 versions
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1igZZg+PjpL3pgMOBcPCWRU5_ZiZbVEU_D55gqAU=6qZg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1j7pCe6Fn0=gxmWgW4BmdXa7Gk1=FiUWAiPARE34gF+qw@mail.gmail.com>
	<9909ed9fe6fb4d6382a76043d2aef577@HKXPR04MB037.apcprd04.prod.outlook.com>
	<CAEPJO1igZZg+PjpL3pgMOBcPCWRU5_ZiZbVEU_D55gqAU=6qZg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAH+Met-0xXhq3+8+qTa=PD218gLUFT+8b=GPQwUnsdtxEHv3ew@mail.gmail.com>

I bought 2010 standalone for my tablet PC so I can test stuff I work on in
2013 that's intended for a 2010 platform.

Charlotte


On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Arthur Fuller <fuller.artful at gmail.com>wrote:

> Thanks, Darryl. I'll look into buying Access 2010 alone, since that's the
> only product I'll actually need for my new project. For the rest of the
> suite, I'm happy with 2007.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Darryl Collins <
> darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au> wrote:
>
> > Hi Arthur,
> >
> > Have a look here,
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Office_2010#Editions
> >
> > You can also purchase MS Access 2010 as a stand alone product.  I did
> that
> > myself as the original Office package I had did not include it, but I
> > didn't want fork up the coin for a different version of Office that had a
> > lot of gumph I didn't want / need either.
> >
> > From my understanding all the versions are the same and it is the license
> > you get (ie what you pay) which unlocks the various functions / features.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Darryl.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:
> > accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Fuller
> > Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2013 9:36 AM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > Subject: [AccessD] Office 2010 versions
> >
> > Which versions of Office 2010 contain Access? There seems to be more than
> > one version of Pro. It also seems that MS is pushing everyone to 2013.
> I'm
> > confused.
> >
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From ebairead at gmail.com  Wed Nov 20 11:48:01 2013
From: ebairead at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Eoin_C_Bair=C3=A9ad?=)
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 17:48:01 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2013 and the Global Address List
Message-ID: <CAJ_fJmODon7iu54vt9M7KFmeyOyk_fe1EPg6RKsaoJ0mKzyGAA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi
I have an Access 2007 database which accesses the GAL.

It works in Access 2010.

It doesn't work in Access 2013

When I try to re-build, the first problem is that I can't see ANY sources
for the Outlook folders. And, in particular, I can't see the GAL.

Is there an add-on I should install?

Thanks

Eoin



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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 20 12:54:06 2013
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 11:54:06 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [AccessD] Restart network services on a server
In-Reply-To: <9909ed9fe6fb4d6382a76043d2aef577@HKXPR04MB037.apcprd04.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <838317822.66724202.1384973646664.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi All:

I am at a client's site and running a full rebuild of their database server and then became aware that no one on the network can connect in. 

It appears that the networking service has to be restarted but the server can not be rebooted until the database is rebuilt. I have run the basic "net stop and start" but it doesn't work. 

Would anyone know off hand what service(s) that would need restarting?

MTIA
Jim

 

From john.k.serrano at gmail.com  Wed Nov 20 13:14:52 2013
From: john.k.serrano at gmail.com (John Serrano)
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 14:14:52 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Restart network services on a server
In-Reply-To: <838317822.66724202.1384973646664.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <9909ed9fe6fb4d6382a76043d2aef577@HKXPR04MB037.apcprd04.prod.outlook.com>
	<838317822.66724202.1384973646664.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <CANJ6OHgv10erFT1NfUKjSs14-p6eZoFeAvT2XMMNg9=ZWbQC4Q@mail.gmail.com>

Restart the server so it rebuilds the boot tables...


On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi All:
>
> I am at a client's site and running a full rebuild of their database
> server and then became aware that no one on the network can connect in.
>
> It appears that the networking service has to be restarted but the server
> can not be rebooted until the database is rebuilt. I have run the basic
> "net stop and start" but it doesn't work.
>
> Would anyone know off hand what service(s) that would need restarting?
>
> MTIA
> Jim
>
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From BradM at blackforestltd.com  Wed Nov 20 13:24:04 2013
From: BradM at blackforestltd.com (Brad Marks)
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:24:04 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Microsoft Visual Studio - How Difficult to Surround ?
References: <CAEPJO1j7pCe6Fn0=gxmWgW4BmdXa7Gk1=FiUWAiPARE34gF+qw@mail.gmail.com>
	<9909ed9fe6fb4d6382a76043d2aef577@HKXPR04MB037.apcprd04.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C501B5499C@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>

All,

There is a good chance that I may be asked to support a website that was
built with Visual Studio.

I have never worked with this environment.

For the past five years I have primarily worked with Access, VBA, etc.

In a prior life, I worked with COBOL, Assembler, Easytrieve, JCL, SUPRA,
DB2 etc.  - therefore some slight brain damage  :-) 

I would like to know how difficult the transition is from Access and VBA
to Visual Studio.  

Thanks,
Brad


From jimdettman at verizon.net  Wed Nov 20 15:05:24 2013
From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 16:05:24 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Restart network services on a server
In-Reply-To: <838317822.66724202.1384973646664.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <9909ed9fe6fb4d6382a76043d2aef577@HKXPR04MB037.apcprd04.prod.outlook.com>
	<838317822.66724202.1384973646664.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <20EDAC7803DA47C5942C20F5B8409CC5@XPS>


 Not sure if this will help at this point, but open service from the admin
tools, click on the startup type column and look for all that are
"Automatic" or "Automatic Delayed start".  All those services should have a
status of "Started".

 I would probably "repair" the network connection as well (or disable it and
then enable it).

Jim. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 01:54 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Restart network services on a server

Hi All:

I am at a client's site and running a full rebuild of their database server
and then became aware that no one on the network can connect in. 

It appears that the networking service has to be restarted but the server
can not be rebooted until the database is rebuilt. I have run the basic "net
stop and start" but it doesn't work. 

Would anyone know off hand what service(s) that would need restarting?

MTIA
Jim

 
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From tinanfields at torchlake.com  Wed Nov 20 16:31:10 2013
From: tinanfields at torchlake.com (Tina Norris Fields)
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 17:31:10 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Friday Humor
In-Reply-To: <0B4AA61FDEF597449F7D28C41E786D96538C44@DDI-DC1.DDI.local>
References: <0B4AA61FDEF597449F7D28C41E786D96538C44@DDI-DC1.DDI.local>
Message-ID: <528D382E.8080301@torchlake.com>

Wonderful!
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 11/14/2013 8:29 PM, Anita Smith wrote:
> YAY! It's Friday here in Australia and I'm celebrating by watching one of my favourite videos. I think other nerds may like this one.
>
> http://youtu.be/fk6Q-SmLVQ4
>
>
> Anita Smith
>


From darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au  Wed Nov 20 16:56:51 2013
From: darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au (Darryl Collins)
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 22:56:51 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2013 and the Global Address List
In-Reply-To: <CAJ_fJmODon7iu54vt9M7KFmeyOyk_fe1EPg6RKsaoJ0mKzyGAA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ_fJmODon7iu54vt9M7KFmeyOyk_fe1EPg6RKsaoJ0mKzyGAA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9aeee64b992242abaa8c3f75606c8ba4@SIXPR04MB048.apcprd04.prod.outlook.com>

Just Guessing here, but do you need to set a reference to Outlook or similar?...



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Eoin C Bair?ad
Sent: Thursday, 21 November 2013 4:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Access 2013 and the Global Address List

Hi
I have an Access 2007 database which accesses the GAL.

It works in Access 2010.

It doesn't work in Access 2013

When I try to re-build, the first problem is that I can't see ANY sources for the Outlook folders. And, in particular, I can't see the GAL.

Is there an add-on I should install?

Thanks

Eoin



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From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Thu Nov 21 12:35:10 2013
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 22:35:10 +0400
Subject: [AccessD]
 =?utf-8?q?Microsoft_Visual_Studio_-_How_Difficult_to_Su?=
 =?utf-8?q?rround_=3F?=
In-Reply-To: <E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C501B5499C@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>
References: <CAEPJO1j7pCe6Fn0=gxmWgW4BmdXa7Gk1=FiUWAiPARE34gF+qw@mail.gmail.com>
	<E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C501B5499C@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>
Message-ID: <1385058910.993590712@f139.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Brad --

VS is a great devs-friendly environment but the "transition" from MS Access/VBA -> VS VB.NET and especially C# could be rather difficult.
Also I'd note that a legacy "website that was?built with Visual Studio" you're about to inherit could be in a general case as messy as VBA/VB6 apps often are. Be careful. Ask somebody experienced with VS Web development ?to verify its sources.

If you have an MS Excel/MS Word (COM) add-in you've built by yourself or you're supporting for a long time and you're familiar with then you can try to convert it to VB/NET/C# equivalent. Quite some time ago (year 2004) I have made such an exercise?with my own customer MS Excel/VBA advanced COM add-in and it took a week to get it converted into VB.NET but that time I have had already some .NET experience/knowledge.

It's more than ten years now that I'm working with .NET/C# and related technologies, full-time from year 2006, and I'm still earning a lot everyday - for comparison: I have started to work with MS Access 1.1 in December 1993, by summer 1994 I was quite fluent with it, by summer 1995 I have got at expert level, and the same time I have got my first international contract for a large MS Access/VBA project...

FYI: to make your VS transition smoother you'll better find some tutoring support, as proceeding by yourself could be very time consuming. StackOverflow is a good place to get prompt feedback on many practical questions. dba-VB could be also helpful but everybody are very busy here with their workday business so if your questions on dba-VB will require lengthy explanations they could be left unanswered.

Thank you.

-- Shamil


Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:24 PM -06:00 from "Brad Marks" <BradM at blackforestltd.com>:
>All,
>
>There is a good chance that I may be asked to support a website that was
>built with Visual Studio.
>
>I have never worked with this environment.
>
>For the past five years I have primarily worked with Access, VBA, etc.
>
>In a prior life, I worked with COBOL, Assembler, Easytrieve, JCL, SUPRA,
>DB2 etc.  - therefore some slight brain damage  :-) 
>
>I would like to know how difficult the transition is from Access and VBA
>to Visual Studio. 
>
>Thanks,
>Brad
>
>-- 
>AccessD mailing list
>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>Website:  http://www.databaseadvisors.com


-- 
???????????? ??????

From charlotte.foust at gmail.com  Thu Nov 21 09:06:35 2013
From: charlotte.foust at gmail.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 07:06:35 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Microsoft Visual Studio - How Difficult to Surround ?
In-Reply-To: <E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C501B5499C@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>
References: <CAEPJO1j7pCe6Fn0=gxmWgW4BmdXa7Gk1=FiUWAiPARE34gF+qw@mail.gmail.com>
	<9909ed9fe6fb4d6382a76043d2aef577@HKXPR04MB037.apcprd04.prod.outlook.com>
	<E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C501B5499C@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>
Message-ID: <CAH+Met88NkwSMT0iroqO+1egRdX3ETXqVbc8LsBHmbq_E_9RZw@mail.gmail.com>

The language is much richer than VBA and you have greater control over
every minute aspect of every object, which can be overwhelming at times.
 If you go VB.Net, at least the language and syntax is familiar.  It's hard
to remember at first that EVERYTHING in .Net is an object with its own
methods and properties, even a simple string.  So you aren't using equals
statements or set commands the way you do in Access.  "str = 'Ted'" is no
longer the way to do it.  Net allows for inheritance, implementing custom
interfaces, and permits you to create custom object classes, which isn't
possible in Access VBA.

There is a LOT to learn new in .Net, so plan to do a lot of studying and
trying things out.

Charlotte


On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Brad Marks <BradM at blackforestltd.com>wrote:

> All,
>
> There is a good chance that I may be asked to support a website that was
> built with Visual Studio.
>
> I have never worked with this environment.
>
> For the past five years I have primarily worked with Access, VBA, etc.
>
> In a prior life, I worked with COBOL, Assembler, Easytrieve, JCL, SUPRA,
> DB2 etc.  - therefore some slight brain damage  :-)
>
> I would like to know how difficult the transition is from Access and VBA
> to Visual Studio.
>
> Thanks,
> Brad
>
> --
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>

From mcp2004 at mail.ru  Thu Nov 21 09:24:06 2013
From: mcp2004 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?U2FsYWtoZXRkaW5vdiBTaGFtaWw=?=)
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 19:24:06 +0400
Subject: [AccessD]
 =?utf-8?q?Microsoft_Visual_Studio_-_How_Difficult_to_Su?=
 =?utf-8?q?rround_=3F?=
In-Reply-To: <E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C501B5499C@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>
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	<E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C501B5499C@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>
Message-ID: <1385047446.973828558@f256.i.mail.ru>

 Hi Brad --

VS is a great devs-friendly environment but the "transition" from MS Access/VBA -> VS VB.NET and especially C# could be rather difficult.
Also I'd note that a legacy "website that was?built with Visual Studio" you're about to inherit could be in a general case as messy as VBA/VB6 apps often are. Be careful. Ask somebody experienced with VS Web development ?to verify its sources.

If you have an MS Excel/MS Word (COM) add-in you've built by yourself or you're supporting for a long time and you're familiar with then you can try to convert it to VB/NET/C# equivalent. Quite some time ago (year 2004) I have made such an exercise?with my own customer MS Excel/VBA advanced COM add-in and it took a week to get it converted into VB.NET but that time I have had already some .NET experience/knowledge.

It's more than ten years now that I'm working with .NET/C# and related technologies, full-time from year 2006, and I'm still earning a lot everyday - for comparison: I have started to work with MS Access 1.1 in December 1993, by summer 1994 I was quite fluent with it, by summer 1995 I have got at expert level, and the same time I have got my first international contract for a large MS Access/VBA project...

FYI: to make your VS transition smoother you'll better find some tutoring support, as proceeding by yourself could be very time consuming. StackOverflow is a good place to get prompt feedback on many practical questions. dba-VB could be also helpful but everybody are very busy here with their workday business so if your questions on dba-VB will require lengthy explanations they could be left unanswered.

Thank you.

-- Shamil

Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:24 PM -06:00 from "Brad Marks" <BradM at blackforestltd.com>:
>All,
>
>There is a good chance that I may be asked to support a website that was
>built with Visual Studio.
>
>I have never worked with this environment.
>
>For the past five years I have primarily worked with Access, VBA, etc.
>
>In a prior life, I worked with COBOL, Assembler, Easytrieve, JCL, SUPRA,
>DB2 etc.  - therefore some slight brain damage  :-) 
>
>I would like to know how difficult the transition is from Access and VBA
>to Visual Studio. 
>
>Thanks,
>Brad
>
>-- 
>AccessD mailing list
>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
>Website:  http://www.databaseadvisors.com


-- 
???????????? ??????

From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Nov 21 14:40:18 2013
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 13:40:18 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [AccessD] Restart network services on a server
In-Reply-To: <20EDAC7803DA47C5942C20F5B8409CC5@XPS>
Message-ID: <335616229.68005976.1385066418592.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Thanks for the help Jim.

The trouble is that the appropriate service may have started, appeared to be still started but is locked. Just like the IIS server...a good restart always clears its brains. As there is a possible sixty(?) services that may or may not need to be started or restarted it is difficult to guess and of course the naming is not always apparent. The client ended up offline to their main databases for fours hours but in the interim, I set it so the emails could be received and send...so they were reasonably happy.

I did a dump using tasklist and tasklist/svc when the network was locked and again when it was restarted and now I will carefully go through the lists. If that doesn't work the next step is to install the ProcessExplorer and crawl through the system as what ever process it is it is hidden within the infamous svchost process. The interesting question was why remote access was still working fine (hamachi/rdp)?

Note: the server has Vipre running on it so the run away process should not be malware.

Jim    

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Dettman" <jimdettman at verizon.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:05:24 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Restart network services on a server


 Not sure if this will help at this point, but open service from the admin
tools, click on the startup type column and look for all that are
"Automatic" or "Automatic Delayed start".  All those services should have a
status of "Started".

 I would probably "repair" the network connection as well (or disable it and
then enable it).

Jim. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 01:54 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Restart network services on a server

Hi All:

I am at a client's site and running a full rebuild of their database server
and then became aware that no one on the network can connect in. 

It appears that the networking service has to be restarted but the server
can not be rebooted until the database is rebuilt. I have run the basic "net
stop and start" but it doesn't work. 

Would anyone know off hand what service(s) that would need restarting?

MTIA
Jim

 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Wed Nov 20 19:06:53 2013
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 18:06:53 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [AccessD] Restart network services on a server
In-Reply-To: <CANJ6OHgv10erFT1NfUKjSs14-p6eZoFeAvT2XMMNg9=ZWbQC4Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <417876483.67154091.1384996013404.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Thanks John but I was unable to until the company's database was rebuilt...and as it was it took over four hours. 

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Serrano" <john.k.serrano at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:14:52 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Restart network services on a server

Restart the server so it rebuilds the boot tables...


On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi All:
>
> I am at a client's site and running a full rebuild of their database
> server and then became aware that no one on the network can connect in.
>
> It appears that the networking service has to be restarted but the server
> can not be rebooted until the database is rebuilt. I have run the basic
> "net stop and start" but it doesn't work.
>
> Would anyone know off hand what service(s) that would need restarting?
>
> MTIA
> Jim
>
>
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>



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From accessd at shaw.ca  Thu Nov 21 17:20:26 2013
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:20:26 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [AccessD] Restart network services on a server
In-Reply-To: <20EDAC7803DA47C5942C20F5B8409CC5@XPS>
Message-ID: <490445887.68187665.1385076026439.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Followup:

It seemed that a group of services had to be restarted. They all showed that they were running but apparently not. One Svchost process locked causing all the following services to stop functioning. I have never liked the Svchost bundling and now I like it even less.

The services that were stopped can not seen when checking the servers 
WinHttpAutoProxySvc, AudioSrv, Browser, dmserver, HidServ, lanmanserver, lanmanworkstation,          seclogon, TrkWks and wuauserv,

I would suspect that lanmanserver and lanmanworkstation are the key to the problems. Anyway I restarted all of the above and everything is working. The only question now is why this group got into this condition considering that nothing has been added to the system but Microsoft's updates? And we know MS would never screw up their servers.

Jim                                       

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Dettman" <jimdettman at verizon.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:05:24 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Restart network services on a server


 Not sure if this will help at this point, but open service from the admin
tools, click on the startup type column and look for all that are
"Automatic" or "Automatic Delayed start".  All those services should have a
status of "Started".

 I would probably "repair" the network connection as well (or disable it and
then enable it).

Jim. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 01:54 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Restart network services on a server

Hi All:

I am at a client's site and running a full rebuild of their database server
and then became aware that no one on the network can connect in. 

It appears that the networking service has to be restarted but the server
can not be rebooted until the database is rebuilt. I have run the basic "net
stop and start" but it doesn't work. 

Would anyone know off hand what service(s) that would need restarting?

MTIA
Jim

 
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From jimdettman at verizon.net  Fri Nov 22 07:05:47 2013
From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 08:05:47 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Restart network services on a server
In-Reply-To: <490445887.68187665.1385076026439.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <20EDAC7803DA47C5942C20F5B8409CC5@XPS>
	<490445887.68187665.1385076026439.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <7DAD55FD166A423D8E034181EEF9E55A@XPS>

Jim,

<<I would suspect that lanmanserver and lanmanworkstation are the key to the
problems.>>

 I would agree and probably lanmanserver, which is takes care of making
shares available.   You said RDP was working, so the TCP/IP stack was still
functional as was the NIC. 

<<The only question now is why this group got into this condition
considering that nothing has been added to the system but Microsoft's
updates? >>

 Check the event log and see if something faulted.  It also could have been
something unrelated because of svchost bundling as you mentioned.

<<And we know MS would never screw up their servers.>>

  I do have to say this is something Microsoft has improved upon over the
last few years.   As long as your not on the bleeding edge with the latest
and greatest, it's not too often now that I find an update stops a server.

 Stations a little less so, but even that patch process has gotten better.
The issue with stations though is the wide range of applications that may be
installed on them, so the chances of running into a conflict are far
greater.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 06:20 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Restart network services on a server

Followup:

It seemed that a group of services had to be restarted. They all showed that
they were running but apparently not. One Svchost process locked causing all
the following services to stop functioning. I have never liked the Svchost
bundling and now I like it even less.

The services that were stopped can not seen when checking the servers 
WinHttpAutoProxySvc, AudioSrv, Browser, dmserver, HidServ, lanmanserver,
lanmanworkstation,          seclogon, TrkWks and wuauserv,

I would suspect that lanmanserver and lanmanworkstation are the key to the
problems. Anyway I restarted all of the above and everything is working. The
only question now is why this group got into this condition considering that
nothing has been added to the system but Microsoft's updates? And we know MS
would never screw up their servers.

Jim                                       

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Dettman" <jimdettman at verizon.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:05:24 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Restart network services on a server


 Not sure if this will help at this point, but open service from the admin
tools, click on the startup type column and look for all that are
"Automatic" or "Automatic Delayed start".  All those services should have a
status of "Started".

 I would probably "repair" the network connection as well (or disable it and
then enable it).

Jim. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 01:54 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Restart network services on a server

Hi All:

I am at a client's site and running a full rebuild of their database server
and then became aware that no one on the network can connect in. 

It appears that the networking service has to be restarted but the server
can not be rebooted until the database is rebuilt. I have run the basic "net
stop and start" but it doesn't work. 

Would anyone know off hand what service(s) that would need restarting?

MTIA
Jim

 
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From accessd at shaw.ca  Fri Nov 22 11:27:15 2013
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 10:27:15 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [AccessD] Restart network services on a server
In-Reply-To: <7DAD55FD166A423D8E034181EEF9E55A@XPS>
Message-ID: <1647785121.68931459.1385141235214.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Jim

I do think there is something more going on and it may require a re-install. The problems keep happening even though the apparent offending APIs and DDLs have been removed and re-installed. Something must be corrupt with some core component...and it difficult locating it.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Dettman" <jimdettman at verizon.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 5:05:47 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Restart network services on a server

Jim,

<<I would suspect that lanmanserver and lanmanworkstation are the key to the
problems.>>

 I would agree and probably lanmanserver, which is takes care of making
shares available.   You said RDP was working, so the TCP/IP stack was still
functional as was the NIC. 

<<The only question now is why this group got into this condition
considering that nothing has been added to the system but Microsoft's
updates? >>

 Check the event log and see if something faulted.  It also could have been
something unrelated because of svchost bundling as you mentioned.

<<And we know MS would never screw up their servers.>>

  I do have to say this is something Microsoft has improved upon over the
last few years.   As long as your not on the bleeding edge with the latest
and greatest, it's not too often now that I find an update stops a server.

 Stations a little less so, but even that patch process has gotten better.
The issue with stations though is the wide range of applications that may be
installed on them, so the chances of running into a conflict are far
greater.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 06:20 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Restart network services on a server

Followup:

It seemed that a group of services had to be restarted. They all showed that
they were running but apparently not. One Svchost process locked causing all
the following services to stop functioning. I have never liked the Svchost
bundling and now I like it even less.

The services that were stopped can not seen when checking the servers 
WinHttpAutoProxySvc, AudioSrv, Browser, dmserver, HidServ, lanmanserver,
lanmanworkstation,          seclogon, TrkWks and wuauserv,

I would suspect that lanmanserver and lanmanworkstation are the key to the
problems. Anyway I restarted all of the above and everything is working. The
only question now is why this group got into this condition considering that
nothing has been added to the system but Microsoft's updates? And we know MS
would never screw up their servers.

Jim                                       

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Dettman" <jimdettman at verizon.net>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:05:24 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Restart network services on a server


 Not sure if this will help at this point, but open service from the admin
tools, click on the startup type column and look for all that are
"Automatic" or "Automatic Delayed start".  All those services should have a
status of "Started".

 I would probably "repair" the network connection as well (or disable it and
then enable it).

Jim. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 01:54 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Restart network services on a server

Hi All:

I am at a client's site and running a full rebuild of their database server
and then became aware that no one on the network can connect in. 

It appears that the networking service has to be restarted but the server
can not be rebooted until the database is rebuilt. I have run the basic "net
stop and start" but it doesn't work. 

Would anyone know off hand what service(s) that would need restarting?

MTIA
Jim

 
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From marksimms at verizon.net  Sat Nov 23 15:24:59 2013
From: marksimms at verizon.net (Mark Simms)
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 16:24:59 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] Microsoft Visual Studio - How Difficult to Surround ?
In-Reply-To: <CAH+Met88NkwSMT0iroqO+1egRdX3ETXqVbc8LsBHmbq_E_9RZw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEPJO1j7pCe6Fn0=gxmWgW4BmdXa7Gk1=FiUWAiPARE34gF+qw@mail.gmail.com>
	<9909ed9fe6fb4d6382a76043d2aef577@HKXPR04MB037.apcprd04.prod.outlook.com>
	<E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C501B5499C@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>
	<CAH+Met88NkwSMT0iroqO+1egRdX3ETXqVbc8LsBHmbq_E_9RZw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001a01cee892$76eee500$64ccaf00$@net>

This is analogous to a person going from a passenger car to a formula 1
racing vehicle.
Anyone could start and drive the formula 1, but know how to race ?
Well, that's a HUGE endeavor.
Same thing here. Dot-net and Object Oriented programming = HUGE, HUGE
learning curve.
>
> There is a LOT to learn new in .Net, so plan to do a lot of studying
> and
> trying things out.
>
> Charlotte



From darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au  Mon Nov 25 16:17:58 2013
From: darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au (Darryl Collins)
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 22:17:58 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: "D is for Databse" (?)
Message-ID: <d1a09d33c1da417cbae3a21480136aef@SIXPR04MB048.apcprd04.prod.outlook.com>



Hi folks,

Quiet times here, so time for an OT question.  One of the folks on the Excel list was asking about the list post fixes,  you know the "-L" in  "Excel-L"; that sort of thing.  Someone asked what the D was for in Access D.  I suggested "Database".  Nathan (who admins the other list server) can explain about the "L" and "G", but probably won't know about the "D" over here.

So - Given your history with Access-L and the setting up of database advisors, does anyone want to pip up with the story behind the "D" in Access D?

Cheers
Darryl.

From jimdettman at verizon.net  Mon Nov 25 16:29:03 2013
From: jimdettman at verizon.net (Jim Dettman)
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 17:29:03 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: "D is for Databse" (?)
In-Reply-To: <d1a09d33c1da417cbae3a21480136aef@SIXPR04MB048.apcprd04.prod.outlook.com>
References: <d1a09d33c1da417cbae3a21480136aef@SIXPR04MB048.apcprd04.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <88BFDD66371C43699B68A1902E816ABA@XPS>


 Database is what I remember.

Jim. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 05:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
(accessd at databaseadvisors.com)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: "D is for Databse" (?)



Hi folks,

Quiet times here, so time for an OT question.  One of the folks on the Excel
list was asking about the list post fixes,  you know the "-L" in  "Excel-L";
that sort of thing.  Someone asked what the D was for in Access D.  I
suggested "Database".  Nathan (who admins the other list server) can explain
about the "L" and "G", but probably won't know about the "D" over here.

So - Given your history with Access-L and the setting up of database
advisors, does anyone want to pip up with the story behind the "D" in Access
D?

Cheers
Darryl.
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From BradM at blackforestltd.com  Mon Nov 25 16:52:22 2013
From: BradM at blackforestltd.com (Brad Marks)
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 16:52:22 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Pulling Data From Access Tables into PHP
References: <CAEPJO1j7pCe6Fn0=gxmWgW4BmdXa7Gk1=FiUWAiPARE34gF+qw@mail.gmail.com><E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C501B5499C@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>
	<1385058910.993590712@f139.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C501B54E38@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>

All,

I have recently started to experiment with PHP in order to build dynamic web pages for our intranet.

I am curious if anyone has used PHP to pull data from Access tables.

Thanks,
Brad
 


From djkr at msn.com  Mon Nov 25 17:07:08 2013
From: djkr at msn.com (DJK (John) Robinson)
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 23:07:08 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: "D is for Databse" (?)
In-Reply-To: <88BFDD66371C43699B68A1902E816ABA@XPS>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP469BD389B3B85CCE5CFBF3CD2ED0@phx.gbl>

Well, referring back to some postings in June 2000 (to "access_list at list.simworld.com"), reference was made to
"AccessDevelopers.Org Discussion List", or more often "Access Discussion List".  Hosted on a Screened Images server.
Moderators included Hindman, Lembit Soobik and Anita Smith.

So I go for Developers, or Discussion, but not Database.

Showing my wrinkles!
John


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: 25 November 2013 22:29
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: "D is for Databse" (?)



 Database is what I remember.

Jim. 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 05:18 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
(accessd at databaseadvisors.com)
Subject: [AccessD] OT: "D is for Databse" (?)



Hi folks,

Quiet times here, so time for an OT question.  One of the folks on the Excel list was asking about the list post fixes,
you know the "-L" in  "Excel-L"; that sort of thing.  Someone asked what the D was for in Access D.  I suggested
"Database".  Nathan (who admins the other list server) can explain about the "L" and "G", but probably won't know about
the "D" over here.

So - Given your history with Access-L and the setting up of database advisors, does anyone want to pip up with the story
behind the "D" in Access D?

Cheers
Darryl.
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From kathryn at bassett.net  Mon Nov 25 17:44:47 2013
From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett)
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 15:44:47 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: "D is for Databse" (?)
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP469BD389B3B85CCE5CFBF3CD2ED0@phx.gbl>
References: <88BFDD66371C43699B68A1902E816ABA@XPS>
	<BLU0-SMTP469BD389B3B85CCE5CFBF3CD2ED0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAOIeTr63sZ5Ipryv+TZ45YcCiQAAEAAAAJELsi/8DAZFoOGveHid58oBAAAAAA==@bassett.net>

Per 1999 footer when I joined:

The Access developer list is hosted by MTG at
http://www.access-developer.com. To leave this list send an email with the
message " UNSUBSCRIBE accessd 'your name' "
as the body to listserv at mtgroup.com. For help, send an email with the
message "HELP" to listserv at mtgroup.com.
The Memphis Technology Group, Inc. (901) 754-4636

So, the D was definitely Developer.


--
Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA)
"Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap"
kathryn at bassett.net
http://bassett.net?? 





From darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au  Mon Nov 25 17:52:58 2013
From: darryl at whittleconsulting.com.au (Darryl Collins)
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 23:52:58 +0000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: "D is for Databse" (?)
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAOIeTr63sZ5Ipryv+TZ45YcCiQAAEAAAAJELsi/8DAZFoOGveHid58oBAAAAAA==@bassett.net>
References: <88BFDD66371C43699B68A1902E816ABA@XPS>
	<BLU0-SMTP469BD389B3B85CCE5CFBF3CD2ED0@phx.gbl>
	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAOIeTr63sZ5Ipryv+TZ45YcCiQAAEAAAAJELsi/8DAZFoOGveHid58oBAAAAAA==@bassett.net>
Message-ID: <721382df805f4121bd35c923b4c3b627@SIXPR04MB048.apcprd04.prod.outlook.com>

Ladies and Gentlemen,

Many thanks, that makes sense.  Appreciate you feedback. 

Cheers
Darryl.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett
Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2013 10:45 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: "D is for Databse" (?)

Per 1999 footer when I joined:

The Access developer list is hosted by MTG at http://www.access-developer.com. To leave this list send an email with the message " UNSUBSCRIBE accessd 'your name' "
as the body to listserv at mtgroup.com. For help, send an email with the message "HELP" to listserv at mtgroup.com.
The Memphis Technology Group, Inc. (901) 754-4636

So, the D was definitely Developer.


--
Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA)
"Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap"
kathryn at bassett.net
http://bassett.net?? 




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From darren at activebilling.com.au  Mon Nov 25 19:16:07 2013
From: darren at activebilling.com.au (Darren - Active Billing)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 12:16:07 +1100
Subject: [AccessD] OT: "D is for Databse" (?)
In-Reply-To: <721382df805f4121bd35c923b4c3b627@SIXPR04MB048.apcprd04.prod.outlook.com>
References: <88BFDD66371C43699B68A1902E816ABA@XPS>	<BLU0-SMTP469BD389B3B85CCE5CFBF3CD2ED0@phx.gbl>	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAOIeTr63sZ5Ipryv+TZ45YcCiQAAEAAAAJELsi/8DAZFoOGveHid58oBAAAAAA==@bassett.net>
	<721382df805f4121bd35c923b4c3b627@SIXPR04MB048.apcprd04.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <010801ceea45$1706fce0$4514f6a0$@activebilling.com.au>

Interestingly - If I follow this link
http://www.access-developer.com
I get some bloke's blog


D
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins
Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2013 10:53 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: "D is for Databse" (?)

Ladies and Gentlemen,

Many thanks, that makes sense.  Appreciate you feedback. 

Cheers
Darryl.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bassett
Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2013 10:45 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: "D is for Databse" (?)

Per 1999 footer when I joined:

The Access developer list is hosted by MTG at
http://www.access-developer.com. To leave this list send an email with the
message " UNSUBSCRIBE accessd 'your name' "
as the body to listserv at mtgroup.com. For help, send an email with the
message "HELP" to listserv at mtgroup.com.
The Memphis Technology Group, Inc. (901) 754-4636

So, the D was definitely Developer.


--
Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA)
"Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap"
kathryn at bassett.net
http://bassett.net?? 




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From stuart at lexacorp.com.pg  Mon Nov 25 20:45:46 2013
From: stuart at lexacorp.com.pg (Stuart McLachlan)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 12:45:46 +1000
Subject: [AccessD] OT: "D is for Databse" (?)
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP469BD389B3B85CCE5CFBF3CD2ED0@phx.gbl>
References: <88BFDD66371C43699B68A1902E816ABA@XPS>,
	<BLU0-SMTP469BD389B3B85CCE5CFBF3CD2ED0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <52940B5A.10705.37E1C3D0@stuart.lexacorp.com.pg>

I've always thought it was Developers too.

On 25 Nov 2013 at 23:07, DJK (John) Robinson wrote:

> Well, referring back to some postings in June 2000 (to
> "access_list at list.simworld.com"), reference was made to
> "AccessDevelopers.Org Discussion List", or more often "Access
> Discussion List".  Hosted on a Screened Images server. Moderators
> included Hindman, Lembit Soobik and Anita Smith.
> 
> So I go for Developers, or Discussion, but not Database.
> 
> Showing my wrinkles!
> John
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
> Sent: 25 November 2013 22:29 To: 'Access Developers discussion and
> problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: "D is for Databse" (?)
> 
> 
> 
>  Database is what I remember.
> 
> Jim. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl
> Collins Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 05:18 PM To: Access Developers
> discussion and problem solving (accessd at databaseadvisors.com) Subject:
> [AccessD] OT: "D is for Databse" (?)
> 
> 
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> Quiet times here, so time for an OT question.  One of the folks on the
> Excel list was asking about the list post fixes, you know the "-L" in 
> "Excel-L"; that sort of thing.  Someone asked what the D was for in
> Access D.  I suggested "Database".  Nathan (who admins the other list
> server) can explain about the "L" and "G", but probably won't know
> about the "D" over here.
> 
> So - Given your history with Access-L and the setting up of database
> advisors, does anyone want to pip up with the story behind the "D" in
> Access D?
> 
> Cheers
> Darryl.
> -- 
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website:
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> -- 
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> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website:
> http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> 
> -- 
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> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 



From kathryn at bassett.net  Mon Nov 25 22:08:50 2013
From: kathryn at bassett.net (Kathryn Bassett)
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 20:08:50 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: "D is for Databse" (?)
In-Reply-To: <010801ceea45$1706fce0$4514f6a0$@activebilling.com.au>
References: <88BFDD66371C43699B68A1902E816ABA@XPS>	<BLU0-SMTP469BD389B3B85CCE5CFBF3CD2ED0@phx.gbl>	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAOIeTr63sZ5Ipryv+TZ45YcCiQAAEAAAAJELsi/8DAZFoOGveHid58oBAAAAAA==@bassett.net>	<721382df805f4121bd35c923b4c3b627@SIXPR04MB048.apcprd04.prod.outlook.com>
	<010801ceea45$1706fce0$4514f6a0$@activebilling.com.au>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAOIeTr63sZ5Ipryv+TZ45YcCiQAAEAAAABPFgbq4WLNInF1PNQ4Aqa8BAAAAAA==@bassett.net>

Probably been a few people own that domain since 1999. Current owner has
only had it a few months.
Creation Date: 20-may-2013

> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-
> bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darren - Active Billing
> Sent: 25 Nov 2013 5:16 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: "D is for Databse" (?)
> 
> Interestingly - If I follow this link
> http://www.access-developer.com
> I get some bloke's blog
> 
> 
> D
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins
> Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2013 10:53 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: "D is for Databse" (?)
> 
> Ladies and Gentlemen,
> 
> Many thanks, that makes sense.  Appreciate you feedback.
> 
> Cheers
> Darryl.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn
> Bassett
> Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2013 10:45 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: "D is for Databse" (?)
> 
> Per 1999 footer when I joined:
> 
> The Access developer list is hosted by MTG at http://www.access-
> developer.com. To leave this list send an email with the message "
> UNSUBSCRIBE accessd 'your name' "
> as the body to listserv at mtgroup.com. For help, send an email with the
> message "HELP" to listserv at mtgroup.com.
> The Memphis Technology Group, Inc. (901) 754-4636
> 
> So, the D was definitely Developer.
> 
> 
> --
> Kathryn Rhinehart Bassett (Pasadena CA)
> "Genealogy is my bag" "GH is my soap"
> kathryn at bassett.net
> http://bassett.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
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> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
> 
> --
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> 
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From charlotte.foust at gmail.com  Tue Nov 26 10:13:08 2013
From: charlotte.foust at gmail.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 08:13:08 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] OT: "D is for Databse" (?)
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP469BD389B3B85CCE5CFBF3CD2ED0@phx.gbl>
References: <88BFDD66371C43699B68A1902E816ABA@XPS>
	<BLU0-SMTP469BD389B3B85CCE5CFBF3CD2ED0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAH+Met8wUKdaowo9R1AXTEL1eguZzVbi0X8UxudY6ebM0PL60A@mail.gmail.com>

Way back, I frequented Access-L until I discovered the "Developer" list and
started hanging out here, where the level of discussion was more technical.
 Don't recall there ever being a discussion of classes, etc. on the L list
when I still visited it.

Charlotte


On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 3:07 PM, DJK (John) Robinson <djkr at msn.com> wrote:

> Well, referring back to some postings in June 2000 (to "
> access_list at list.simworld.com"), reference was made to
> "AccessDevelopers.Org Discussion List", or more often "Access Discussion
> List".  Hosted on a Screened Images server.
> Moderators included Hindman, Lembit Soobik and Anita Smith.
>
> So I go for Developers, or Discussion, but not Database.
>
> Showing my wrinkles!
> John
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:
> accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
> Sent: 25 November 2013 22:29
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: "D is for Databse" (?)
>
>
>
>  Database is what I remember.
>
> Jim.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 05:18 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> (accessd at databaseadvisors.com)
> Subject: [AccessD] OT: "D is for Databse" (?)
>
>
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Quiet times here, so time for an OT question.  One of the folks on the
> Excel list was asking about the list post fixes,
> you know the "-L" in  "Excel-L"; that sort of thing.  Someone asked what
> the D was for in Access D.  I suggested
> "Database".  Nathan (who admins the other list server) can explain about
> the "L" and "G", but probably won't know about
> the "D" over here.
>
> So - Given your history with Access-L and the setting up of database
> advisors, does anyone want to pip up with the story
> behind the "D" in Access D?
>
> Cheers
> Darryl.
> --
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
> --
> AccessD mailing list
> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com
>
>
> --
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>

From kost36 at otenet.gr  Tue Nov 26 10:37:49 2013
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 18:37:49 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access on windows 8.1 RT
In-Reply-To: <CAH+Met8wUKdaowo9R1AXTEL1eguZzVbi0X8UxudY6ebM0PL60A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <88BFDD66371C43699B68A1902E816ABA@XPS><BLU0-SMTP469BD389B3B85CCE5CFBF3CD2ED0@phx.gbl>
	<CAH+Met8wUKdaowo9R1AXTEL1eguZzVbi0X8UxudY6ebM0PL60A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D03578F6C3014BA2B66FCB77C60CBF79@kost36>

Hi all,
I recently bought the vivotab 650RT/G tablet of Asus and surprised to 
discover that it had preinstalled Office 2013 without including the Access.
Reading also in several forums found that Microsoft does not provide to 
support Access in similar models that work with windows 8.1 RT.
A relative question 10 days before to the supporting section of asus in 
Greece and Italy... never answered...
Does anyone know if there is any  way to read mdb files of access on  this 
operating system?

thank's
/kostas 


From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 26 11:15:48 2013
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 10:15:48 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [AccessD] Pulling Data From Access Tables into PHP
In-Reply-To: <E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C501B54E38@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>
Message-ID: <2060128460.72539469.1385486148793.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Brad:

PHP would have to be the driver of course. Here is a link to a piece of code showing PHP connecting to a MDB database:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1605473/php-and-microsoft-access-database-connection-and-crud

Jim 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Marks" <BradM at blackforestltd.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 2:52:22 PM
Subject: [AccessD] Pulling Data From Access Tables into PHP

All,

I have recently started to experiment with PHP in order to build dynamic web pages for our intranet.

I am curious if anyone has used PHP to pull data from Access tables.

Thanks,
Brad
 

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From accessd at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 26 11:21:47 2013
From: accessd at shaw.ca (Jim Lawrence)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 10:21:47 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [AccessD] Access on windows 8.1 RT
In-Reply-To: <D03578F6C3014BA2B66FCB77C60CBF79@kost36>
Message-ID: <1620702032.72546881.1385486507705.JavaMail.root@cds002>

Hi Kosta:

I took the liberty to redirect your post to the DBA-tech list. Some of the member are much more familiar with Windows 8 OS.

Keep you posted.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kostas Konstantinidis" <kost36 at otenet.gr>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:37:49 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Access on windows 8.1 RT

Hi all,
I recently bought the vivotab 650RT/G tablet of Asus and surprised to 
discover that it had preinstalled Office 2013 without including the Access.
Reading also in several forums found that Microsoft does not provide to 
support Access in similar models that work with windows 8.1 RT.
A relative question 10 days before to the supporting section of asus in 
Greece and Italy... never answered...
Does anyone know if there is any  way to read mdb files of access on  this 
operating system?

thank's
/kostas 

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From gustav at cactus.dk  Tue Nov 26 11:28:58 2013
From: gustav at cactus.dk (Gustav Brock)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 18:28:58 +0100
Subject: [AccessD] Access on windows 8.1 RT
Message-ID: <009d01ceeacc$fdec8fd0$f9c5af70$@cactus.dk>

Hi Kostas

Not that I know of, except perhaps for raw data - as when using Excel to
query external data.

I think, that to Microsoft a database for RT is SharePoint or some web
service.

So you better start programming some apps for Windows RT!

/gustav


-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] P? vegne af Kostas
Konstantinidis
Sendt: 26. november 2013 17:38
Til: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Emne: [AccessD] Access on windows 8.1 RT

Hi all,
I recently bought the vivotab 650RT/G tablet of Asus and surprised to
discover that it had preinstalled Office 2013 without including the Access.
Reading also in several forums found that Microsoft does not provide to
support Access in similar models that work with windows 8.1 RT.
A relative question 10 days before to the supporting section of asus in
Greece and Italy... never answered...
Does anyone know if there is any  way to read mdb files of access on  this
operating system?

thank's
/kostas 



From kost36 at otenet.gr  Tue Nov 26 11:29:49 2013
From: kost36 at otenet.gr (Kostas Konstantinidis)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 19:29:49 +0200
Subject: [AccessD] Access on windows 8.1 RT
In-Reply-To: <1620702032.72546881.1385486507705.JavaMail.root@cds002>
References: <1620702032.72546881.1385486507705.JavaMail.root@cds002>
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thank's Jim

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jim Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 7:21 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access on windows 8.1 RT

Hi Kosta:

I took the liberty to redirect your post to the DBA-tech list. Some of the 
member are much more familiar with Windows 8 OS.

Keep you posted.

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kostas Konstantinidis" <kost36 at otenet.gr>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:37:49 AM
Subject: [AccessD] Access on windows 8.1 RT

Hi all,
I recently bought the vivotab 650RT/G tablet of Asus and surprised to
discover that it had preinstalled Office 2013 without including the Access.
Reading also in several forums found that Microsoft does not provide to
support Access in similar models that work with windows 8.1 RT.
A relative question 10 days before to the supporting section of asus in
Greece and Italy... never answered...
Does anyone know if there is any  way to read mdb files of access on  this
operating system?

thank's
/kostas

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From fuller.artful at gmail.com  Tue Nov 26 13:51:30 2013
From: fuller.artful at gmail.com (Arthur Fuller)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 14:51:30 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: "D is for Databse" (?)
In-Reply-To: <CAH+Met8wUKdaowo9R1AXTEL1eguZzVbi0X8UxudY6ebM0PL60A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <88BFDD66371C43699B68A1902E816ABA@XPS>
	<BLU0-SMTP469BD389B3B85CCE5CFBF3CD2ED0@phx.gbl>
	<CAH+Met8wUKdaowo9R1AXTEL1eguZzVbi0X8UxudY6ebM0PL60A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEPJO1ibsv3afaJgDVb+qF37zCuH=22wxTS5Un6GTmEA2eLtJA@mail.gmail.com>

Lately I'm working on an app that contains exactly 50 classes (and the same
number of "M" modules that instantiate the classes, and a large number of
"I" modules (e.g. Implements). In fact, hardly any part of this app uses
the traditional class-less approach to Access code.

A.


On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Charlotte Foust <charlotte.foust at gmail.com
> wrote:

> Way back, I frequented Access-L until I discovered the "Developer" list and
> started hanging out here, where the level of discussion was more technical.
>  Don't recall there ever being a discussion of classes, etc. on the L list
> when I still visited it.
>
> Charlotte
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 3:07 PM, DJK (John) Robinson <djkr at msn.com> wrote:
>
> > Well, referring back to some postings in June 2000 (to "
> > access_list at list.simworld.com"), reference was made to
> > "AccessDevelopers.Org Discussion List", or more often "Access Discussion
> > List".  Hosted on a Screened Images server.
> > Moderators included Hindman, Lembit Soobik and Anita Smith.
> >
> > So I go for Developers, or Discussion, but not Database.
> >
> > Showing my wrinkles!
> > John
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:
> > accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
> > Sent: 25 November 2013 22:29
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: "D is for Databse" (?)
> >
> >
> >
> >  Database is what I remember.
> >
> > Jim.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl
> Collins
> > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 05:18 PM
> > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > (accessd at databaseadvisors.com)
> > Subject: [AccessD] OT: "D is for Databse" (?)
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Quiet times here, so time for an OT question.  One of the folks on the
> > Excel list was asking about the list post fixes,
> > you know the "-L" in  "Excel-L"; that sort of thing.  Someone asked what
> > the D was for in Access D.  I suggested
> > "Database".  Nathan (who admins the other list server) can explain about
> > the "L" and "G", but probably won't know about
> > the "D" over here.
> >
> > So - Given your history with Access-L and the setting up of database
> > advisors, does anyone want to pip up with the story
> > behind the "D" in Access D?
> >
> > Cheers
> > Darryl.
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From jwcolby at gmail.com  Tue Nov 26 14:00:38 2013
From: jwcolby at gmail.com (John Colby)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 15:00:38 -0500
Subject: [AccessD] OT: "D is for Databse" (?)
In-Reply-To: <CAEPJO1ibsv3afaJgDVb+qF37zCuH=22wxTS5Un6GTmEA2eLtJA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <88BFDD66371C43699B68A1902E816ABA@XPS>
	<BLU0-SMTP469BD389B3B85CCE5CFBF3CD2ED0@phx.gbl>
	<CAH+Met8wUKdaowo9R1AXTEL1eguZzVbi0X8UxudY6ebM0PL60A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEPJO1ibsv3afaJgDVb+qF37zCuH=22wxTS5Un6GTmEA2eLtJA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAA_iUE8SCQkafzH1XcCSLA_T-+sYtuBAgaqJAnbicOTw3wyNTw@mail.gmail.com>

Way cool.
On Nov 26, 2013 2:52 PM, "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com> wrote:

> Lately I'm working on an app that contains exactly 50 classes (and the same
> number of "M" modules that instantiate the classes, and a large number of
> "I" modules (e.g. Implements). In fact, hardly any part of this app uses
> the traditional class-less approach to Access code.
>
> A.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Charlotte Foust <
> charlotte.foust at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Way back, I frequented Access-L until I discovered the "Developer" list
> and
> > started hanging out here, where the level of discussion was more
> technical.
> >  Don't recall there ever being a discussion of classes, etc. on the L
> list
> > when I still visited it.
> >
> > Charlotte
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 3:07 PM, DJK (John) Robinson <djkr at msn.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Well, referring back to some postings in June 2000 (to "
> > > access_list at list.simworld.com"), reference was made to
> > > "AccessDevelopers.Org Discussion List", or more often "Access
> Discussion
> > > List".  Hosted on a Screened Images server.
> > > Moderators included Hindman, Lembit Soobik and Anita Smith.
> > >
> > > So I go for Developers, or Discussion, but not Database.
> > >
> > > Showing my wrinkles!
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:
> > > accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
> > > Sent: 25 November 2013 22:29
> > > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: "D is for Databse" (?)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Database is what I remember.
> > >
> > > Jim.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl
> > Collins
> > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 05:18 PM
> > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> > > (accessd at databaseadvisors.com)
> > > Subject: [AccessD] OT: "D is for Databse" (?)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > Quiet times here, so time for an OT question.  One of the folks on the
> > > Excel list was asking about the list post fixes,
> > > you know the "-L" in  "Excel-L"; that sort of thing.  Someone asked
> what
> > > the D was for in Access D.  I suggested
> > > "Database".  Nathan (who admins the other list server) can explain
> about
> > > the "L" and "G", but probably won't know about
> > > the "D" over here.
> > >
> > > So - Given your history with Access-L and the setting up of database
> > > advisors, does anyone want to pip up with the story
> > > behind the "D" in Access D?
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Darryl.
> > > --
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> > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
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> > >
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> > >
> > >
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>
>
>
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From BradM at blackforestltd.com  Wed Nov 27 21:22:49 2013
From: BradM at blackforestltd.com (Brad Marks)
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 21:22:49 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Need to Force Calendar Report to Four Pages
References: <2060128460.72539469.1385486148793.JavaMail.root@cds002>
Message-ID: <E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C50163B584@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>

All,

I am in the process of setting up a ?Four Week Work Schedule Calendar? with Access 2007.

This calendar has four work weeks with five work days for each week.  Therefore there are always 20 work days shown on the calendar.  Each of the 20 work days on the calendar is set up as a sub-report so there are 20 sub-reports on the calendar.  This work nicely.

The data for each of the work days is pulled from a SQL database.  This is ?production schedule info? with different ?job? information for each day on the calendar.

For initial testing, all 20 sub-reports were shown on one page.  Because of the large amount of data that needs to be displayed for some days, however, it will be necessary to only show one week (five days) on each of four pages.  

Therefore I need to make the calendar report always print on 4 pages.

I thought that this would be easy but I ran into a snag when I tried to make the height of the page 44 inches and found out that the max that I can create is a height of only 22 inches.

I would guess that there is a way to accomplish this, but I just have not found it yet.

Is there a way to force a new page with a report like this?

Any advice would be most appreciated.

Thanks,
Brad


From BradM at blackforestltd.com  Wed Nov 27 21:40:59 2013
From: BradM at blackforestltd.com (Brad Marks)
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 21:40:59 -0600
Subject: [AccessD] Need to Force Calendar Report to Four Pages
References: <2060128460.72539469.1385486148793.JavaMail.root@cds002>
	<E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C50163B584@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>
Message-ID: <E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C50163B586@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>

All,

Never mind...

By experimenting with the insertion of "Page Breaks" in conjunction with changing the sub-reports to "Can Grow" = "Yes", I believe that I can now see how to make things work.

Brad




-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com on behalf of Brad Marks
Sent: Wed 11/27/2013 9:22 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: [AccessD] Need to Force Calendar Report to Four Pages
 
All,

I am in the process of setting up a "Four Week Work Schedule Calendar" with Access 2007.

This calendar has four work weeks with five work days for each week.  Therefore there are always 20 work days shown on the calendar.  Each of the 20 work days on the calendar is set up as a sub-report so there are 20 sub-reports on the calendar.  This work nicely.

The data for each of the work days is pulled from a SQL database.  This is "production schedule info" with different "job" information for each day on the calendar.

For initial testing, all 20 sub-reports were shown on one page.  Because of the large amount of data that needs to be displayed for some days, however, it will be necessary to only show one week (five days) on each of four pages.  

Therefore I need to make the calendar report always print on 4 pages.

I thought that this would be easy but I ran into a snag when I tried to make the height of the page 44 inches and found out that the max that I can create is a height of only 22 inches.

I would guess that there is a way to accomplish this, but I just have not found it yet.

Is there a way to force a new page with a report like this?

Any advice would be most appreciated.

Thanks,
Brad


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From charlotte.foust at gmail.com  Fri Nov 29 12:14:39 2013
From: charlotte.foust at gmail.com (Charlotte Foust)
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 10:14:39 -0800
Subject: [AccessD] Need to Force Calendar Report to Four Pages
In-Reply-To: <E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C50163B584@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>
References: <2060128460.72539469.1385486148793.JavaMail.root@cds002>
	<E9A6E8C998E16F4FB3D861390AFE32C50163B584@blkltd.blkfst2003.local>
Message-ID: <CAH+Met-fqNxCJXzU8=PcJoOzr7x2tdS2YbMpQ4W--1tfg=uLmA@mail.gmail.com>

Brad,

The easiest way to insure that you get four pages is to insert 4 parent
subreports and nest the contents within them.  Insert page breaks between
the parent subreports and you will always get the desired number of pages.
 Subreports are the only way around the size limitation on report pages.

Charlotte


On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Brad Marks <BradM at blackforestltd.com>wrote:

> All,
>
> I am in the process of setting up a ?Four Week Work Schedule Calendar?
> with Access 2007.
>
> This calendar has four work weeks with five work days for each week.
>  Therefore there are always 20 work days shown on the calendar.  Each of
> the 20 work days on the calendar is set up as a sub-report so there are 20
> sub-reports on the calendar.  This work nicely.
>
> The data for each of the work days is pulled from a SQL database.  This is
> ?production schedule info? with different ?job? information for each day on
> the calendar.
>
> For initial testing, all 20 sub-reports were shown on one page.  Because
> of the large amount of data that needs to be displayed for some days,
> however, it will be necessary to only show one week (five days) on each of
> four pages.
>
> Therefore I need to make the calendar report always print on 4 pages.
>
> I thought that this would be easy but I ran into a snag when I tried to
> make the height of the page 44 inches and found out that the max that I can
> create is a height of only 22 inches.
>
> I would guess that there is a way to accomplish this, but I just have not
> found it yet.
>
> Is there a way to force a new page with a report like this?
>
> Any advice would be most appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Brad
>
>
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