[AccessD] This seems to get me often

Charlotte Foust charlotte.foust at gmail.com
Wed Dec 24 11:28:01 CST 2014


Susan,

I recognize your situation and understand.  Just know that the simple apps
have a way of sticking around forever and user appetites for new reports
and features usually leads to a  need for normalization.  For me it's
easier to just design that way from the start.  I'm lazy!

Charlotte
On Dec 24, 2014 5:28 AM, "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at gmail.com> wrote:

> Charlotte, this makes perfect sense, but it isn't the way I would approach
> it for a db I might be working on, but then, mine would be small and
> specific. I know some of you use Access to create dbs with a much broader
> scope and that definitely impacts your design. I think perhaps the smaller
> the project, the more freedom you have -- I might be wrong. :)
>
> It's kind of interesting because I downloaded a few knitting patterns this
> morning and it hit me that designing a database is really a very creative
> endeavor. You have a pattern, you have stitches that you know and have used
> for years -- but still, we all seem to bring our own personal process to
> the project. :) Another knitter can observe and with a minimal amount of
> explanation from you, they might say, "That's not how I would've done it,
> but that's nice!" :)
>
> When I stopped working in and writing about Access, I don't think I
> realized how hard it would be to reclaim the skill. It's like riding a bike
> right? Um... not for me. And speaking of... I tried riding a bike with my
> granddaughter a few years back. That wasn't so easy either. :)
>
> Susan H.
>
> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Charlotte Foust <
> charlotte.foust at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The donation table contains donation, amount, date, donorID, perhaps type
> > of donation (i.e. pledge, lump sum, in kind, etc.).  You have a persons
> > table that includes a field for companyID because you probably want to
> > address any thank yous to that person's attention at their company, if
> > any.  The Company table is just that, companies.  It may have multiple
> > addresses so those are linked to the persons table.  If you put contacts
> > into the company table, you will either wind up overwriting the contacts
> > for future donations, or you'll have duplicates of the company for
> > different contacts.  The persons and companies table have addresses in an
> > Address table whose PK is inserted as an FK in the appropriate table.
> Does
> > that seem any clearer?
> >
> >
> > Charlotte
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > A donor can be an individual or an organization -- they're all donors.
> > > Donor is the entity, the name and type of donor all belong to donor.
> > Right?
> > >
> > > Susan H.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Charlotte Foust <
> > > charlotte.foust at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > ​Not without denormalizing the table.
> > > >
> > > > Charlotte​
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Susan Harkins <ssharkins at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Is there anyway to have orgs and individuals in the same table?
> > > >
> > > >
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