[AccessD] Macs (was: Back-End DB is locking...WHY?!)

Jim Lawrence accessd at shaw.ca
Thu Jan 16 10:43:42 CST 2014


Hi Gustav:

:-)

The subtle difference between those that think they are better and those of us who know we are better. Those who only think they are better will argue the point for ever...those who know they are better feel there is no need to. ;-)

Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 15 January, 2014 11:20:25 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Macs (was: Back-End DB is locking...WHY?!)

Hi Jim

Doug is a nice man. You are lucky that no fanatic fanboys are here - they would rip you to the bones. Of all forums I have visited, Mac freaks are the most aggressive. The best advice is just to stay off such places. Seriously. Common sense and Mac freaks are incompatible.

/gustav


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Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] På vegne af Jim Lawrence
Sendt: 16. januar 2014 01:31
Til: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Emne: Re: [AccessD] Back-End DB is locking...WHY?!

Sorry Doug:

It was posted to see if there were any fanbois around. ;-)

On that subject though I have had a few run ins with product, within a network environment. Small networks never seem to have any issues. 

OTOH, within a larger network there have been events that has left me gun shy. 

Once a network that I was partly responsible for, with mixed Windows and Macs, a file corrupted...upon further investigation it turned many graphic files had corrupted. In the end, the branch lost a number of files. We never did discover the reason but the managers changed everything to Windows and as far as I know similar incidents were never repeated.    

I was working with a client, the local newspaper. We recommended that the company use Windows server to manage their archives. The local manager, who basically frowned on anything other than Apple, insisted on Apple servers and that only Mac specialists would manage the servers. As far as we were concerned that was fine. Two months later the Mac servers crashed...for no apparent reasons (We suspected (were told off the record) poor data management and Mac servers but that was never official.) The result, was that 150 years of archives were lost.

Do I blame Mac for this...maybe not but a mixture of Macs and Windows within a network have been involved with two of the major disasters in 35 years of computing. Maybe I am just being superstitious but everytime someone says Mac and Windows networks, the hair stands up on the back of my neck.

Jim
  
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Steele" <dbdoug at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 15 January, 2014 10:25:09 AM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Back-End DB is locking...WHY?!

Huh?  What exactly do you mean?  I've got a mixed Mac/Windows network at home, and have never had problems connecting Macs to clients' networks.

Doug


On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Jim Lawrence <accessd at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi all:
>
> The truth be known that no matter how nice the Mac machine, they can 
> not do networking...kind of sad but true. They can still do internet though.
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk>
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" < 
> accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, 14 January, 2014 11:12:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Back-End DB is locking...WHY?!
>
> Hi David
>
> You have been fooled somehow. Macs are goood! Spell: g-o-o-o-d => gooood.
>
> /gustav
>
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] På vegne af David A 
> Gibson
> Sendt: 14. januar 2014 21:13
> Til: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Emne: Re: [AccessD] Back-End DB is locking...WHY?!
>
> A word of caution when sharing DBs between PCs & Macs.  One year we 
> had an MS Access 2010 .accdb shared between about 40 users with as 
> many as 15-20 accessing it at one time without any problems.  The next 
> year or the one after, we did it again and had all kinds of file corruption problems.
>  Turns
> out that whenever a Mac user running Access in Parallels would manage 
> to lock their computer without exiting the DB it would corrupt data tables.
> Had a lot of lost work before we figured it out.
>
> David Gibson 


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