Salakhetdinov Shamil
mcp2004 at mail.ru
Tue Mar 4 15:20:06 CST 2014
Hi John -- > " Reality is what refuses to go away when you do not believe in it" :) John, I have written "Luddite moment" I haven't called you a Luddite. I do not see a big difference/any (software development) performance slowdown between Win8 desktop mode and Win7. I could be missing something but I must tell you I have been using Win8.x for 1.5 years now on my development USD1500+ ASUS N76Vz laptop and it (win8) have been working well for me. > You do understand that the ENTIRE OBJECTIVE of Windows 8 is to make > a unified UI that will work on the desktop, tablet and > phone. They did in fact accomplish that. Yes. > "Improvements" are supposed to make things better, solve a problem. Yes. They have solved the problem of designing and implementing of a modern innovative UI for tablets, smartphones and laptops, as well as for smart-TVs, smart-watches etc. Desktop mode is left for development, for legacy software - it will be phased out in... 10 years? -- Shamil Tuesday, March 4, 2014 3:41 PM -05:00 from John W Colby <jwcolby at gmail.com>: > > Definition of/LUDDITE/ > >*:* one of a group of early 19th century English workmen destroying laborsaving machinery as a >protest;/broadly/*:* one who is opposed to especially technological change > >Explain to me please how Windows 8 is a "labor saving machinery". And I work every day in a field >where technological change happens around me and I use and adapt to it. WHEN AND WHERE IT WORKS FOR >ME. Windows 8 is not the first, nor will it be the last "improvement" that doesn't work for me and >I will not use. > >Windows 8 desktop mode is NOT what I was after. I worked with Pains 8.0 for two months. I worked >in the "desktop". It sucked the whole time. It never got better. It was so annoying that when I >had to get work done I switched to my old Wndows 7 computer. I had a brand new thousand dollar >POWERFUL laptop intentionally crippled to look like a damned Windows phone. > >Windows 8 desktop is a lobotomized Windows 7. Intentionally crippled. I am happy you like it but >that does not make it "labor saving" nor does it make ME a Luddite, a curmudgeon, or a fanbois of >Windows 7. > >Go out and read the reviews for crying out loud. They all say essentially "If you like Windows 7, >stay far far away from Windows 8", which pretty much sums it up. When it was time to buy a laptop I >was not offered a choice of Windows 7 or Windows 8. I received Windows 8, and struggled for TWO >DAMNED MONTHS. I hated my new laptop. I do not do social, I have no need for "Immersive" full >screen calculators. I have no need or desire for "active tiles" feeding me ever changing content. >Or for that matter "immersive" full screen browsers, text editors or anything else. I have no use >for Panes as opposed to Windows. They are not better, they are AT MOST different, and in many cases >for many purposes WORSE than real windows. But, as with the rest of the "modern UI 'improvements'", >We are not given a choice. Suck it up and adapt. Why? > >"Improvements" are supposed to make things better, solve a problem. You do understand that the >ENTIRE OBJECTIVE of Windows 8 is to make a unified UI that will work on the desktop, tablet and >phone. They did in fact accomplish that. > >Of course "worked" is a relative term. The desktop does in fact still "work". It just doesn't >"work" as well, depending on the feature set of Windows 7 that you used previously. The problem >they solved was to make Windows work on a phone / tablet and desktop. That is not a problem that I >need solved, and the changes that they made to "solve" a problem I didn't need solved made Windows 8 >a PITA. > >I simply have no need for or use for the "improvements" which turned my laptop into a phone / >tablet. I have no intention of EVER using a Windows phone, or tablet. And the "Modern UI" that I >am left with in Windows 8 is seriously less capable (for me) than what it replaced. That is, simply >put, a Win (for MS) / Lose (for me) situation. > >Your calling me a Luddite doesn't change that reality. > >John W. Colby > >Reality is what refuses to go away >when you do not believe in it > >On 3/4/2014 3:05 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil wrote: >> > I have to tell you that it was a scary moment... >> "Luddite moment"? ;) >> >> You could have just used to use [WindowKey] + [D] to get switched into Win8.x desktop mode... >> >> -- Shamil >> >> Tuesday, March 4, 2014 2:20 PM -05:00 from John W Colby < jwcolby at gmail.com >: >>>> OK, I learned a lot from that vid and I'm convinced - for me W8 is totally useless. None of my >>> gestures have any effect on my machines. >>> > -- Салахетдинов Шамиль