Salakhetdinov Shamil
mcp2004 at mail.ru
Wed Oct 8 13:19:07 CDT 2014
Thank you, Hans -- Yes, I know about Linux apt etc. Gustav and others do also I suppose. As for Windows Web development (using ASP.NET) you mentioned, it has two main issues IMO: - 1. relatively slow (may I say prohibitively slow?) ) start-up time from "sleep" mode - more than 5 sometimes 10 and even more seconds for any real not toy ASP.NET app (the issue can be solved by "keeping alive" trick but I personally dislike this approach); - 2. "cryptic HTML output" which makes using Javascript handling this ASP.NET HTML output a real nightmare. This is why (IMO) ASP.NET MVC was introduced, which has got very little from ASP.NET and looks more like PHP or "classical ASP" in ASP.NET engine "envelope". And ASP.NET deployment was always an easy (X)Copy procedure (or just automatic deployment from within Visual Studio) so OneGet can't bring that much advantages IMO to the serious web dev shops for them to switch to ASP.NET (MVC) from any other web technologies. -- Shamil Tue, 7 Oct 2014 01:37:17 -0700 from Hans-Christian Andersen <hans.andersen at phulse.com>: >The Linux and BSD world has long had package managers (apt, yum, etc). OS X has for a little while too (brew, mac ports). It's nice to see you Windows people finally come on board. Quite frankly, I believe it's one of the main reasons why I've seen very few serious web dev shops using Windows as a platform for software development. So this is very beneficial to you guys. This might change things a bit if executed correctly. > >- Hans > > >> On Oct 6, 2014, at 1:22 AM, Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote: >> >> Hi Hans -- >> >> Could you please elaborate a bit more on what would you like to say and to achieve by this kind of your comments? >> >> Thank you. >> >> -- Shamil >> >> P.S. NB: I appreciate a lot your constructive comments coming from your rich technical, managerial and life experience. >> >> >> Sun, 5 Oct 2014 16:34:11 -0700 from Hans-Christian Andersen < hans.andersen at phulse.com >: >>> Wow. It's about time Windows got something like this. I'm happy on your behalf. >>> >>> - Hans >>> >>> >>>> On Oct 4, 2014, at 11:18 PM, Salakhetdinov Shamil < mcp2004 at mail.ru > wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Gustav -- >>>> >>>> Have you installed it? >>>> Does it have OneGet? >>>> >>>> Windows PowerShell OneGet >>>> OneGet is a new way to discover and install software packages from around the web. With OneGet, you can: >>>> · Manage a list of software repositories in which packages can be searched, acquired, and installed >>>> · Search and filter your repositories to find the packages you need >>>> · Seamlessly install and uninstall packages from one or more repositories with a single PowerShell command >>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/garretts/archive/2014/04/01/my-little-secret-windows-powershell-oneget.aspx >>>> https://oneget.codeplex.com/ >>>> hhttp://blogs.technet.com/b/windowsserver/archive/2014/04/03/windows-management-framework-v5-preview.aspx >>>> http://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/2i7xx6/oneget_default_package_manager_for_windows/ >>>> https://github.com/OneGet/oneget >>>> http://www.slideshare.net/oota_ken/10-attentions-when-you-make-oneget-chocolatey-packages-using-powershell Thank you. >>>> >>>> -- Shamil >>>> >>>> >>>> Wed, 1 Oct 2014 15:55:50 +0000 from Gustav Brock < gustav at cactus.dk >: >>>>> Hi all >>>>> >>>>> It's now on-line: >>>>> >>>>> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview >>>>> >>>>> /gustav >>>>> >>>>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >>>>> Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] På vegne af Gustav Brock >>>>> Sendt: 1. oktober 2014 09:20 >>>>> Til: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >>>>> Emne: Re: [AccessD] Windows 10... >>>>> >>>>> Hi Darryl >>>>> >>>>> Don't forget that this really isn't much more/other than a new Windows 8.1 skin for the wimps. >>>>> >>>>> That said, I look forward to the desktop switching option. >>>>> So, certainly, this is marked as a must-do task for the weekend. I couldn't do otherwise as I've run Windows 8 from the very first developer preview (with the outstanding desktop betta fish). >>>>> >>>>> I'm impressed that MS has been able to hold the 10 tight while everyone was talking about 9. What a surprise - and that is, of course, the intention behind. It worked. Kudos to marketing dept. >>>>> >>>>> /gustav >>>>> >>>>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >>>>> Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] På vegne af Darryl Collins >>>>> Sendt: 1. oktober 2014 00:52 >>>>> Til: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >>>>> Emne: [AccessD] OT: Windows 10... >>>>> >>>>> Worth a read. Looks better than 8.1 :) >>>>> >>>>> << http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2014/09/30/announcing-windows-10/ >> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Darryl