[AccessD] Backend database corruption

James Button jamesbutton at blueyonder.co.uk
Thu Feb 19 14:50:35 CST 2015


It seems to me, from the description posted that the primary concern should be
the robustness of the transfer process 

Whatever process is implemented it should cope with loss of connection, 
And in my time as a systems tester I would have gone to substantial effort to
generate failures in various combinations.

So, while hard wiring connections may well, and should deal with excessive
dropout, which can be caused by blockage of the (near) line-of-site of the
transmitter receivers, (people walking by) or something as simple as a fan motor
producing interference,  a powered door,  road traffic, or a fridge pump putting
'noise' onto the power supplies to devices.
And - in a manufacturing environment there are lots of sources of interference
to the electrical supplies and to the transmission signals.  

Certainly a starting point would be to hard-wire the connections. 
Then augment that with a logging facility recording the start and end times of
each upload process to see if they are overlapping with the processing of each
others data. 


With 20+ systems feeding the back end, is there a robust locking facility to
ensure that only 1 set of data is 'imported' at any time, and that data is
(pre)processed before the import or process facility starts on the next set of
data.

Another consideration is the locking structure within the database that is
applicable to the apps data.

In the past when dealing with probably similar needs I designed input to be flat
files presented at the back end by a messaging facility - queue handling or
auto-process of email attachments where the input handling facility created
files with input timestamp details in the filenames.
The alternative to that being to have the sending systems include their
(possibly wrong timestamp) in the filename with their own unique device operator
id and batch-sequence number

That means that data batches can be uniquely identified and traced back, the
batches of data will be processed in sequence generated by each source and can
be re-processed in the same order against a restore of a backup instance of the
database  

JimB
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Janet Erbach
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:02 PM
To: Database Advisors
Subject: [AccessD] Backend database corruption

Hello!

It's been years since I've addressed this group, so please be patient with
me while I get back into the swing of this.

I've been an Access developer for the last 15 years or so.  Until recently
I created straightforward apps used on a small group of hardwired networked
computers that had 5 or 6 users in the app at the same time.

Last year I took a job with a large manufacturing plant, and just deployed
a very complex app that I co-wrote with one of the access-fluent production
supervisors.  It is supposed to run non-stop on 20+ machines, all with WIFI
connections.  It writes machine production data to a set of front-end
tables;  every 15 minutes the app checks to see if there is network
connectivity - if there is, the front-end table data is posted to the
back-end tables on the network, the front-end tables are emptied, and the
loop begins again.

The app worked pretty well when it was running on one or two machines.  Now
that it's up on 20 machines, the back end is corrupting multiple times
during the day - which, of course, brings the whole show to a halt.  The
error log seems to indicate that loss of a network connection during the
back-end write operation proceeds the corruption.

I have two questions.  Will hard wiring the network connection to these
machines go a long way towards stopping the corruption?  Is there anything
else that could be contributing to this that I need to be aware of?

Thank you for your help.

Janet Erbach
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