Tony Septav
TSeptav at Uniserve.com
Thu Jan 22 19:03:49 CST 2015
Hey All I said I have to go back to lurking which I will do. But one last time you are correst in your observations. In fact I still see corporate companies still using EXCEl as a database. I have tried to explain the advantage of going the database route (time, reports etc.). One big international company came back and said "It really does not matter we still charge our client for our time whatever it takes". What a scam but hey as they say good business. Why would they change. Gosh help me, gone for now. Tony Septav Nanaimo, BC Canada -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins Sent: January-22-15 6:44 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] ACCESS Left Behind I think for the Dev community it probably did - I know we use it (SQL Server Express) a lot for the BE operations with Access on top, but for your average office user SQL Server Express (albeit a superior product) was a step too far (many steps in fact) - even the installation and setup would be the end of most of them (merely attempting to download and install the correct version of SQL Server Express for their requirements would be a showstopper). Hell, most folks I see in 'Corporateland' struggle with Access. They don't understand how to logically set up data, tables and relationships and know nothing about how to write SQL queries. They generally prefer to use Excel as a database (the horror, the horror). -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Friday, 23 January 2015 4:52 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] ACCESS Left Behind You know what I find most interesting in this whole transition is that SQL Server Express didn't seem to catch on. Susan H. On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Tony Septav <TSeptav at uniserve.com> wrote: > Hey All > You may think I am the cranky old guy but...... I truly did love > ACCESS in it's heyday. I produced many vibrant applications with > ACCESS that were before their time. I still think (Yes I can hear you > say Cry me a river) MS let (with each new release) the developers down > and I really cannot get away from that. OK I know "Shut Up you old > man" and I now will. I guess we cannot continue to cry over spilt > milk. > > Tony Septav > Nanaimo, BC > Canada > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman > Sent: January-22-15 7:03 AM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ah Ah Yes - Printing to PDF on 64 Bit > > > Yeah, that's one thing that has always driven me nuts with MS; they > never go back and fix anything in a prior release. > > My take is, if you produce a product with a given feature set, that > feature > set should work. New features should drive new releases, not the fact > that > you need to get a fix for what your currently on. > > But the whole thing is shifting anyway with the advent of the > subscription model. And if any of you aren't keeping up, Windows will > now be the same > way: > > > http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/01/21/the-next-generatio > n-of-w > indows-windows-10/ > > Watch the video presentation at > http://news.microsoft.com/windows10story/ > > Jim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Tony Septav > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 08:11 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Ah Ah Yes - Printing to PDF on 64 Bit > > > Hey All > Not wanting to repeat myself. But ACCESS requires workarounds of > workarounds of workarounds. What happened to the good old days. MS > Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! > > Tony Septav > Nanaimo, BC > Canada > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bob Walsh > Sent: January-21-15 4:43 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Printing to PDF on 64 Bit > > This is also an issue on Access 2010. I had the same issue two weeks ago. > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Simms > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 12:49 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Printing to PDF on 64 Bit > > This one case so perfectly depicts why it's so brutally difficult to > create solutions using Access or any Microsoft Office component that > is > VBA-driven: > You've GOT to use compiler directives to effectively handle all of the > variances and exceptions for the various releases. > > #IF ACCESS2013 Then > #ELSE > #END IF > > > > > DoCmd.OpenReport "rptSurvey", acPreview, , , acHidden > > DoCmd.OutputTo acOutputReport, "rptSurvey", > > "PDFFormat(*.pdf)", strFullName, False, "", , acExportQualityPrint > > DoCmd.Close acReport, "rptSurvey", acSaveNo > > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com IMPORTANT NOTE: The > information contained in this message may be privileged, confidential, > and protected from disclosure. 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