[AccessD] Delimiter Value (was: Automatic Update Function)

Gustav Brock gustav at cactus.dk
Tue Mar 3 10:06:03 CST 2015


Hi Tina

That character could be: ¤
I've seen on every keyboard but never seen it used for anything.

However, I've never had issues with the "|" pipe sign, so why make things more strange than necessary.

/gustav

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Fra: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] På vegne af Tina Norris Fields
Sendt: 3. marts 2015 17:02
Til: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Emne: Re: [AccessD] Delimiter Value (was: Automatic Update Function)

This is an intriguing part of the discussion.  One perspective is to find a symbol that will not accidentally be typed because it's not on a standard keyboard.  The other perspective is to find a symbol that can easily be used (because it is on a standard keyboard), but is not commonly used for most typing and coding.  Fascinating.  I like the pipe symbol because it fits with the second perspective.  I would like an 
ALT+ASCII code symbol that is easy to remember and doesn't appear on a
standard keyboard, too, because it reduces the threat of accidental typing.  Hmmm - pondering.
TNF

Tina Norris Fields
tinanfields-at-torchlake-dot-com
231-322-2787

On 3/3/2015 8:13 AM, Jim Dettman wrote:
>
>   I'm not sure if it's as true today as it once was, but using 
> anything beyond 127 was iffy.
>
>   The extended characters have no set definition unlike those below 
> 128.  So while that may not exist as a character on a US keyboard, it 
> may exist on others because it might not be a cent symbol.
>
>   I use the vertical pipe as well because to my knowledge, there's no 
> place where one would use it outside of computer commands and it is 
> easy to read because the character is thin.
>
> Jim.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters
> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 08:59 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Delimiter Value (was: Automatic Update 
> Function)
>
> Hi John,
>
> A pretty safe delimiter is a ¢ symbol (cent symbol).  To use it, 
> you'll have to find it somewhere and copy it into your code.  Or, you 
> can could also use Chr(162).
>
> I don't think a cent symbol is on any US electronic keyboards, and 
> certainly not on any others.
>
> I found a good list of Chr values at
> http://www.gtwiki.org/mwiki/?title=VB_Chr_Values.
>
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John W. 
> Colby
> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 15:32 PM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Automatic Update Function
>
> Of course it was simple.  However if you look at SQL Server export for 
> example, by default if you tell it to use quotes, it quotes EVERY FIELD.
>
> So if you are getting data from the wild, look out.  If you are doing 
> the export yourself, and then the import yourself, it is really fairly 
> easy, you control both ends.
>
> As I mentioned I like pipe delimited because (in MY data) pipes are 
> unheard of, so using that as a delimiter is pretty safe.  My data is 
> name / address from the wild, so tabs are encountered occasionally. I 
> have never actually seen a pipe coming in from raw data, though of 
> course it is a key on the keyboard and someone could accidentally hit it.
>
> John W. Colby 



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