[AccessD] FW: Office 365

John Colby jwcolby at gmail.com
Wed Aug 31 05:38:36 CDT 2016


Wow, does not sound like fun.

jwcolby

On 8/31/2016 5:09 AM, James Button wrote:
> Well first - you don't get a choice of the 2016 apps installed -
> They will replace 2013 - and be installed alongside 2010
>
> Using Outlook - well your email store (etc) will be updated to 2016
> And - most of your links (from email and links in web pages) will also be 2016'd
> - most, not all, so expect the occasional link (such as form filling - to report
> things )
>
> So - backup your .pst and .ost files
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>
> Onedrive (OK not strictly 365 - but there is a major uplift to 365 storage as
> part of the 365 facility)
>
> You get 1TB of space to use -
> Well on my 100Mb/s link I managed to upload (Drag'n'Drop) under 3GB in a day
> Was to have been 3GB of files from a documentation folder - but some of the
> files didn’t get "MOVE'd"
>                (OK COPY - but Onedrive says MOVE)
>
> There is a 'pending' and 'what-happened- window - but it's not scrollable -
> so you cannot see the ends of filenames,
> or more than the first 7? Entries -                           and that's on a
> 1920x1080 screen
>
> Also - you cannot get a computer manageable list of what is on the Onedrive, and
> drag-n-drop only does files - not folders -
> so you cannot just drag a folder of stuff - e.g. .htm pages won't have the
> linked folder of images taken over -
>
> There is no quota, so sharing a folder in editable mode means that all your
> space can be used up -
>                    and see the terms for what happens if you fill up the storage
> allocation.
>                     Also if you don't actively use the account for a while!
>
> Also sync is a pain - and if you 'sync' to a shared folder the sync can take
> ages to allow you to start working.
>
> So - Using 365 is not an easy way into SAFE cloud usage.
>
>
>
> Also - only the basic filetypes and formats of those types can be processed by
> the online 365 apps - NO you cannot check a csv file.
> And macros are NOT allowed - so that's anything with VBA  'automation' out of
> the picture - .com addins - maybe - but is your automation written and setup as
> a .com or .dll
> Also outlook.com -  well surely your ISP provides a passable online email
> facility
> I haven't managed to get mail, or outlook.com to work - and sync of accounts -
> probably only the last 30 days stuff.
>
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>
> Now - for some recent fun! - note the end of the story...
>
> I got a banneracross the middle of the screen - blue pop-up type,
> and it blocked all other access to the system - no id on the message which
> stated
> "Terms are changing" - with 2 selection boxes - "Learn More" and "Dismiss"
>            Wallswitch - and then malware check -            nothing.
>
> Restarted the system - started task-manager and then went back to what I had
> been doing.
> This time I did not have the weather app in fullscreen mode when the pop-up
> popped up again, and could do other things
> Yes - it seems to be triggered by the start panel "weather app" ?
> So - with it onscreen, but a system that was functioning
> I Contacted the MS chat line - well I have something on the system that has got
> past windows 10 malware checks - Firewall and Defender and is not showing in
> TaskManager!
>
> My question to the techy      -                is this from Microsoft (inbedded
> in the OS, windows-update or an App             or is it a MALWARE carrier that
> got past MS security?
>
> The tech's response - don't know, you'd need paid support for me to run a
> facility to find out -
>   
> You should just                                                        CLICK ON
> DISMISS  -
>
> Er Yes - so Microsoft advice is
>                                                        If you don't know who a
> pop-up is from - just click on it!
>
> My further investigation - that unowned pop-up links to a Microsoft page telling
> me that the terms of my use of Microsoft products has changed as of the 2nd
> August
> And I got this unidentified hidden? Link to it on the 23rd August ..
>
>                                Among the things with changing TERMS is Onedrive !
>
>
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>
>
>
> OK - the reason I went to 365 -
>
> I have to have 2106 to match clients systems ( going from Win-7 2007/2010
> environments to win-10 and current Office versions).
> And - now also 365 -                          so I need  to see what they can,
> and CANNOT do, and find ways past the glitches and changes .
>
> 365 family seemed - even as an annual cost, with just £10 a year extra to be
> more cost effective as a family (5 user, 15 devices) facility.
>
> Personal use - the Cloud facilities of Onedrive - multi-device and user sharing,
> remote access? Backup storage!
> For work use - 365 means your 2016 gets updated with the latest goodies   (see
> all the Excel improvements) that the 365 based clients will be getting.
>
>
> JimB
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky
> Smolin
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 2:15 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: [AccessD] FW: Office 365
>
> One of my local colleagues, Polly Arndt, asks about experiences you have had
> with O360.
>
> Any input welcome.
>
> MTIA
>
> Rocky Smolin
> Beach Access Software
> 760-683-5777
> www.bchacc.com
> www.e-z-mrp.com
> Skype: rocky.smolin
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> From: Polly Arndt [mailto:polly.arndt at sbcglobal.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 6:03 PM
> To: Rocky Smolin
> Subject: RE: Office 365
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> Great idea, thanks Rocky!
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> On August 30, 2016 5:34:33 PM "Rocky Smolin" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote:
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> Polly:
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> I could forward this to the AccessD list if you like to see what they have
> to say.
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> Rocky
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> From: Polly Arndt [mailto:polly.arndt at sbcglobal.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 3:59 PM
> To: Barry Hynum; Doug Murphy; Rocky Smolin; Joe K Anderson
> Subject: Office 365
>
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> Have any of you used Office 365?  I have a client who wants to upgrade to
> it.  They have a couple of split databases on their network in .accdb
> format.
>
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> Is there anything I need to warn them about?  Have you experienced any
> problems using it?  Is there anything I need to look for that might not work
> properly?
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> Thanks very much for your input,
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> Polly
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