[AccessD] Further to keyboard problem

[John Colby]

AFAICT Windows 10 no longer allows boot to bios.


On 3/6/2016 10:34 AM, James Button wrote:
> Maybe worth stopping the Fast-Restart option, and checking that the Setting for
> the Power-Button is SHUT-DOWN rather than hibernate/sleep,
> so the system does a proper restart rather than 'win-10 faster startup' that is
> actually an awakening  from hibernate.
>
> Substantially slows down closedown and restart - but there is the
> maybe-get-at-YOUR-PC option rather than accept the MS modified instance of Win
> 10.
>
> And - is your BIOS set to look to boot from other than the hard drive - pretty
> much essential to be able to boot from a CD or USB device if you want to do
> maintenance to deal with the more usual and annoying Win-10 problems
>
> Happy for you that this was amenable to backout.
>
> The point about the 'Restore CD' - Paragon EASEUS etc. tend to be pretty basic
> Linux OS's which would, if you could get the laptop to boot from one, have gone
> back to basic (BIOS? specified) input devices.
>
>
> JimB
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of John
> Colby
> Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 5:05 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Further to keyboard problem
>
> I ended up restoring back to the 1st and my keyboard is back.
>
> Whew!!!
>
> This was a toughie!  There is a virtual (on sreen) keyboard under the
> login screen for "ease of access".  I could then use the mouse to click
> the buttons to log in.  Once logged in I could use the mouse to open the
> control panel and from there do a restore, all using only the mouse.
>
> The (2nd) restore worked and allowed me to use the keyboard.
>
> The stated purpose of the restore point was installation of a driver for
> Comodore Unite.  Not sure that install hosed things.  I won't be
> installing it again however.
>
> So my laptop is working again.  That is all that really matters.
>
> On 3/5/2016 11:46 PM, Charlotte Foust wrote:
>> John,
>> Different brands of machines have different ways to break into the bios.
>> Check with the manufacturer to get the instructions that work for your
>> machine.
>>
>> Charlotte Foust
>> (916) 206-4336
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 6:59 PM, John Colby <jwcolby at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Windows 10.
>>>
>>> It is a laptop which does not enter anything into the password field.  I
>>> have a Logitech USB RF Keyboard / mouse pair which I have used with this
>>> thing for as long as I have owned it.  The mouse works, the keyboard does
>>> not enter anything into the password field.  I have a second Logitech RF
>>> keyboard / trackpad combo.  The trackpad works, the keyboard does not enter
>>> anything into the password field.  I cannot use the tab key to cause the
>>> cursor to move on to the power off icon.
>>>
>>> No matter which keyboard I try, it will not accept a keystroke to cause
>>> the pretty picture to go away and display the login screen. If I click on
>>> the screen with the mouse or the trackpad of the USB (RF) keyboards, I can
>>> get to the login screen but no key on the keyboards do anything.  Arrow
>>> keys do not move the insertion pointer, tab doesn't move the insertion
>>> pointer on to the power off icon (for example).
>>>
>>> The PC Power off key does turn the laptop off.  No other key on the entire
>>> keyboard does anything AFAICT.
>>>
>>> Apparently to break into the BIOS one holds down the F2 key and presses
>>> the power button, holding F2 until the bios screen appears. That does not
>>> work.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/5/2016 4:35 PM, James Button wrote:
>>>
>>>> If it was a desktop I'd ask PS2 or USB keyboard.
>>>>
>>>> But will the keyboard will let you get to the BIOS.
>>>> Or - will it let you get to a System reset process - not to run that,
>>>> just to
>>>> see if the keyboard is working
>>>>
>>>> Next test - if you boot from a restore CD - will that (Linux?) OS
>>>> recognise
>>>> keyboard input - assuming you have the system set to look to boot from CD
>>>> (or
>>>> USB) before trying the hard drive.
>>>>
>>>> And have you tried CTRL+ALT+DEL to see if that gets you to taskmanager and
>>>> logon/closedown options
>>>> And ... have you tried the icon at the bottom right corner to see if that
>>>> shows
>>>> anything different.
>>>>
>>>> You may need to do a recovery boot - to use safe mode and then after that,
>>>> closedown and  just redo a normal boot.
>>>>
>>>> JimB
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
>>>> John
>>>> Colby
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:17 PM
>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Further to keyboard problem
>>>>
>>>> Yes there is a "power" key on the keyboard which turns the computer off.
>>>> It's as if the login screen itself just is not accepting keys.
>>>> On Mar 5, 2016 11:59 AM, "Dan Waters" <df.waters at outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The power key?
>>>>> Dan
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>> John Colby
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 8:56 AM
>>>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>>>> Subject: [AccessD] Further to keyboard problem
>>>>>
>>>>> The power key on the keyboard shuts the computer down.
>>>>>
>>>>> WTFO?
>>>>>
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