[AccessD] [dba-OT] Our first Winter Storm of the season!

[Bryan Carbonnell]

OK Gents, Take this over to OT.

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Bryan

On 27 November 2016 at 06:13, James Button <jamesbutton at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Basic process I use
> At first frost
> Cut all 'leaves' off - and cut any excessively curled or rotted edges from the
> remnant of the old leaves that form the stem.
> Idea is to not have parts of the plant that will rot too swiftly, or direct rain
> or condensing moisture into the stem.
>
> Now - wrap the step in about 2" of insulation - plant matter or rockwool
> Don't want to hold moisture against the stem.
> Loosely wrap that in plastic to keep rain etc. from soaking the insulation -
> Now - for more protection - wrap that - without compressing it in a further
> layer of material
> The further layer is to get damp - or even wet, but not so that it slides down
> the stem or compresses the inner layer
> And then a reasonably robust  black plastic bag over the top  to stop rain
> getting in to the stem or structure from the top.
>
> Theory - the inner layer forms an air gap and the outer layer will freeze
> stopping the immediate cold from penetrating to the stem
> Sort of like a pond freezes on-top but not underneath.
> The absence of light will slow down growth that occurs during the not so cold
> periods
> And the capping bag should be stretched by leaves when they do grow,
> The tops of the new leaves in the bag may get frosted - but there should be some
> new ones apparent when you take the bag off in the spring
>
> Mostly, the intent is to protect the inner growing tip and developing leaves
> from being frozen by snow, or rainwater assisted penetrating frosts.
>
> And - re. rhizome and growth - I had a rhizome of a plant with a 120mm wide
> stem,  grow a 'pup' horizontally under the slab and expanding to lift a 60 x
> 600x 900 path paving slab by a couple of inches.
> Easy to deal with - apart from the slab weight - lift slab, spade off the end of
> the rhizome life the pup and it's small amount of roots relay slab and put the
> pup to be a 'present' for someone!
>
> (In the 'temperate' South East of England - anything from Mediterranean summers
> to  60mm rain in a day, or  -10°c and 3' of snow laying for a few months.- so
> little expectation of 'fruit')
>
> JimB
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AccessD [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart
> McLachlan
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:07 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-OT] Our first Winter Storm of the season!
>
> Like I said - no such thing as a banana "tree".   :)
>
> Trees have perennial (1) , woody (2) trunks.
>
> 1.  The banana is a herb similar to ginger etc  (only bigger). It grows from a
> rhizome,  The
> "trunk" dies after it has borne one crop of fruit.  New banana plants are
> generate as suckers
> by the rhizome and they are short lived.  Only the rhizome itself is
> "perrenial".
>
> 2.  The banana doesn't have a trunk, woody or otherwise. (Other non- trees such
> as
> bamboos and palms, do have trunks)   The banana's  pseudostem is just a
> compressed
> mass of leaves (like an onion or  leek)
>
> See http://www.fao.org/docrep/006/t0308e/T0308E03.htm
>
> :)
>
>
>
> On 27 Nov 2016 at 3:01, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>
>> So wise one...what is a banana tree?
>>
>> http://www.bananaplants.net/banananinfo.html
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "stuart" <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg>
>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016
>> 10:50:03 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] [dba-OT] Our first Winter Storm of
>> the season!
>>
>> No such thing as a banana tree  <whistling>
>>
>> :)
>>
>> --
>> Stuart
>>
>> On 26 Nov 2016 at 20:54, Jim Lawrence wrote:
>>
>> > Wrap the tree up. The local park did that for years with their
>> > Banana trees and it wasn't until some municipal politician decided
>> > to save money that the trees died.
>> >
>> > Jim
>> >
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